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Say something nice about Dragon Age 2
the cross class combos were a really cool idea.
Hawke
I beat it 3 times. I liked it, probably because I got it for free.
Default Fem-Hawke best girl.
Enchantment?
It eventually ended.
The art direction wasnt as bad as it could have been
>>342260953
Combat system is pretty good and FemHawke is cute as fuck.
>>342260953
The character models for the most part are the best in the series
Meredith was a pretty good villain until the red lyrium shit popped up
>>342260953
It has best girl.
I've never played it. I'm going to give it a try after I finish with replaying Origins.
>>342260953
Combat system was an improvement over Origin, people just tend to equate it with encounter design.
Who was in the wrong, /v/?
It wasn't Bioware's worst, that would go to DA:I followed by ME3, but it did have flaws.
Cons
>copy pasted dungeons
>poorly handled sexuality, pretty much all romance arcs are shit
>negative Anders points for not being gay
>not as tactical to play as DA:O was on PC
>no Arcane Warrior class
>meh third act
>no Morrigan
>no armor for companions
Pros
>cute girls
>comfy, one city setting that should be explored with more tact
>mages vs templar was a good idea, unfortunately is wasn't handled so great
>more fun to play on a gamepad than DA:O
>sarcastic Male Hawke and total bitchlord Fem Hawke
>qunari aren't just big humans anymore
>that questline where your mom goes missing and you have to deal with a crazy dude
>some quests have interesting conclusions if you keep following up with them, since they pop off your journal it seems
>>342260953
It was better than cisquisition, somehow.
>>342262231
My nigga
>can't fuck best girl
It's Samara all over again.
>>342260953
Best combat in the series that didn't have broken builds like knight enchanter or arcane warrior.
Best boss fights.
Best characters that actually existed outside of your sight and felt like they had lives seperate from you.
All in all besides only being in one city reusing assets and being way too short without the DLC it wasn't all that bad. Its a solid 6-7
>>342262415
Really? I don't get negative points with Anders if I don't romance him. Though, I mostly pick the funny options.
>>342262414
>both were wrong
>killed both
Only correct option
>>342262651>tfw Aveline doesn't get kinky and invite you for a threesome
>>342260953
>>342260953
The same environments are repeated so much that you are never nervous or tense or over-excited by going into a new area.
It's my favorite in the series despite being the worst one.
>>342260953
It has some decent C&C, although you have no control over the major plot points.
Except for Felicia Day, the Felicia Day DLC was all right.
Okay, everyone. Would you like it to be remade and included the cut content or free DLCs for it? How would you fix it?
>>342262881
The DLC was fine except for everything with her in it.
Making the elves look like rodents was a really good call, considering they're supposed to be the hated minority of the world.
>>342262991
>Would you like it to be remade and included the cut content or free DLCs for it?
Yes. So much yes.
>>342262664
The 'negative points changes a bunch of dialogues' thing was pretty cool.
Especially since it's so damn hard to get negative points with that cocksucker Varric.
>>342262415
>that quest line with your mom
holy fucking shit bioware I was not ready for that
>>342262991
You can't really fix it, might as well just make another game with the same idea of high fantasy focusing mostly on one city in the world.
I'm still buttblasted that people who romanced Anders were fucking shit on in DA:I.
>>342262991
Sure thing
There's only one true flaw it had was not able to have the option of being adopted.
Had the best combat in the series.
>>342260953
The class exclusive dialogue was nice
>tfw punching the demon in the face in the deep roads as a warrior
>>342262991
Expand the city, if you're going to have a game be in a singular city at least make it huge with lots of secrets and interesting alleyways and tons of dialogue with the NPCs.
>>342262991
A story about a hero who impacts one city over a bunch of years was a great idea. The execution just wasn't there.
Some of that was because the game was rushed. But the DA:I team had years and the writing still sucked.
The release drama was hilarious
>>342262991
>how would you fix it?
change Felicia day's character model
As with all Dragon age games it needs a fourth option on the conversation wheel
Good, Snarky, Harsh is a good system, but I'd prefer Good, Snarky, Blunt, and a fourth "Be racist about elves" option.
>>342260953
The rival/friend system was great, being rivals with anders and merrill solves most of the problems with their characters as you consistently call them on their bullshit
>>342263393
>change Felicia day's character model
Uguuu.
>>342263352
That might be why I don't feel as negatively about the series as most people. I started playing DA:O after 2 released, so I didn't have that hype then let down that everyone else experienced.
It was just a bargain bin game on my backlog when I got around to playing it.
>>342263482
>being rivals with Merrill
Don't you fucking talk to my waifu like that
>>342262991
remake please
>>342263529
>lanky middle aged human with pointy ears and a face that's 50% jawbone
>"elven"
I know some of the characters make comments about elven gender being confusing, but I thought it was because male elves were effeminate, not this.
>>342260953
Bitchy warrior femHawke was a qt. It was nice to be a complete confrontational slut to the all the mages and homos.
>>342262991
A full remake might be interesting
Femhawke is a qt
Varric
You're not the chosen one
>>342260953
It was incredibly entertaining, even if you weren't playing it.
>>342263630
just started playing the whole series, and I think inquisition is pretty great.
If you ignore klem. Fuck just don't take iron bull.
And cole, cole is a colossal faggot. I'm trying to fight a demon and this fucker is sitting on the roof spinning riddles at me like a cunt.
>>342262991
>Okay, everyone. Would you like it to be remade
yes
>>342260953
The banter on the forums was hilarious. Not gonna lie I didn't accept how bad this game really was when it first came out, but even back then I had to admit the small rebellions was pretty funny on the Bioware Forums.
>>342263812
Refined taste.
I at least enjoyed how Hawke was given the option to take nothing seriously and outright trigger people Bioware tried to push me into liking. Also I remember 2 handed warrior being hilariously strong.
>"Come with me, Anon. We'll be rich!"
What do?
it had best boi
>>342263969
Once I found out it had MMO tier collectathon quests, I just completely wrote off Inquisition.
>>342262991
>Okay, everyone. Would you like it to be remade and included the cut content
YESplease be a bioshill please be a bioshill
>>342264165
That angsty PoS best boi? GTFO.
Was the Japanese version dubbed?
There was a lot about dragon age 2 that was very good. Their corner cutting was just blatantly and nearly insultingly obvious.
>>342264170
They aren't essential thankfully. Crafting is a bit frustrating because of all of the collecting shit though.
I've managed pretty well just by killing things on my way to more important things.
I do wish it had no repeating quests with the whole quartermaster thing. Took me a while to realize I was literally giving away valuable resources for fucking nothing.
It's a highly educational case study about game designdue to being such an excellent example of what makes games bad
>>342260953
It was only slightly worse than 3
I managed to sit through the entirety of it because default femHawke was such a fucking qt
>>342262415
>DA2
>not much worse than DA:I and ME3
interesting opinion.
>>342264164
Murder the treacherous bitch.
I only wish it were possible to hunt her down and kill her.
>>342264165
He really went off the fucking deep end after origins. God damn Anders what the fuck did you do?
>>342260953
Varric.
>>342264164
Travel the world fucking her in new and exotic locations. Or do the patrician thing and go full rivalry and turn her into a house wife.
i liked the qunari redesign
>>342264476
It was made 1.5 after Origins or something close to that. Origins had a development time of nearly 5 years, it was bound to cut corners and it shows. They should really not have named it Dragon Age 2 and they should have made it a lot smaller game with quality instead of stretching it out.
Every fucking character that wasn't Varric was such a piece of shit scumbag.
>>342261013
This. Pretty easy to become broken powerful with the right skill combos though. I remember making a two-hander who was basically unkillable (think I had some skills that restored health every time I hit someone or something like that), though I had to put so much stamina in reserve that I couldn't really use any abilities, just stood there and wacked people with a sword until they died.
>>342260953
Its not Inquisition, but its not far off.
>>342264585
DA2 was the low point of the series, Dragon Age Inquisition was an improvement many times over even with Krem and Dorian being forced down your throat.
>>342260953
It had a good prequel
>>342260953
It prevented me from buying dai
thanks da2
>>342264745
True but I fucking hated when in Cisquisition said Hawke and Isabella are "not together". Fucking bullshit. Can I believe DA In. isn't canon?
It cured me of blind fanboyism
>demo comes out
>ANOTHER WAVE
>it's just a demo, s-surely they will fix the combat and hilariously bad grafix for the release
>mfw game comes out
Why the hate? It's been over a decade, but I remember liking it only a little less than 3.
>>342262414
Smelly dumb, mage scum
Isabella has nice tits.
Bethany to
>>342265417
>Can I believe DA In. isn't canon?
Why does it even matter? Do you think fictional stories are real?
>>342265601
> It's been over a decade
I know I'm getting old, but that's just not right. Just about half perhaps.
>>342265675
>Lusting after your sister
Anon, plz.Everyone knows Carver has been tapping that since puberty.
>>342265601
Definitely wrong thread.
>>342265795
>BN4 came out in 13 years ago
People born in 2003 will be able to post on 4chan in 5 years.
>>342265883
>implying
Nigga I will fight you
>>342265883
It's not my fault they designed her to be the most attractive thing in the game
It made me stop pre-ordering games.
The plot was decent until the last 30 minutes went full retard
>>342260953
Hawks base design is cool.
>>342266001
you fucking wot m8
>>342265042
Absolutely not
DA:I was shit
It was ridiculously boring with a metric fuckton of filler, horrible plot, and atrocious gameplay
Creating best brother, boy and chin.Even though he's such a little shit but endearing in a way. He still love you.
>>342266123
It had some gold nuggets scattered here and there, they just weren't able to tie it all together.
>>342266243
Looks 10 times cuter with the blood on the nose desu
>>342265042
>i judge games by how much they trigger my /pol/ sensibilities
>>342264585
DA2 still allowed you to be a horrible dick, the only enjoyable way to play bad Bioware games.
Can't do that in DA:I.
>>342260953
>Sarcastic Hawke
>Better companions than any other DA game
>>342266243
You can't waifu yourself
>>342266464
Pretty sure it's warpaint, and I definitely agree. Couldn't find a pic of high enough quality quickly though
every character had bland face with no soul and animations plus empty city with quest that reused same area not to mention cringy dialogue and bad models killed game for me
>>342260953
Not as boring as Inquisition
>>342262991
I'd love that
Focus more on the relationships and less on combat and dungeon crawling
Less dungeons, but bigger ones so they aren't copypasted and are more interesting
Fix the Arishock boss battle so that it's less of a chore
More in depth relationships and romances with everyone and mors characters to do this with, like Bethany
Keep the great rivalry/friendship meter
Arcane warrior needs to be in
3rd act needs to be fleshed out, with more depth especially to the character interaction
>>342266517
No need to spoiler a fact.
The companions felt like actual people with their own lives who happened to adventure with you instead of being people who don't exist if you aren't around.
1. Combat pacing was good. Not stretched to oblivion like in Origins, neither pointless like in Inquisition.
2. The concept for the plot was great, and execution was kind of fine. The low points were Anders going Brevik and the whole mages/templars always ending in mages going zomg-blood-magic-time-nao. This is explicitly seen in thelast section, where the fight with master mage is pretty much forced on us, regardless of our choices
3. Corners were cut like hell, especially with repeating locations with different entry points to make it seem they are unique.
4. Most quests were well designed and executed.Mom getting butchered, fenris/master and bertrand getting mad were the best
5. Skillset was fine, altho with some knowledge you could get buff so much, nothing could stop you. AoE spells were not as OP as in Origins, but still OP as fuck.
6. Monsters are still HP sponges
7. Lore breaches were made. Two most glaring examples were mages always going for blood magic option if they were cornered, and high demons being thrown at the player at every occasion.
Overall, the game is 7/10.
>>342260953
It wasn't dragon age:inquisition
>>342266517
Carver is the best companion in ANY RPG. Shame he doesn't stick around.
I did feel more like I was the protagonist, as opposed to playing an interactive movie, then I normally do in bioware games.
>>342264497
It has the worst armor design in the series. I'm at 65 hours played wearing that legion of the dead dwarf exclusive armor from the hissing wastes questline. Biggest and heaviest armor in the game yet it still looks like I'm not as well equipped as random ass templars in my camp. It's barely better than the ugly chainmail with piss yellow undershirt I was stuck with for the first 55 hours.
I just bought dragon age inquisition. I have to play it. I want to see how bad it is plus I played the Witcher 3 to death.
>>342267019
2-The point is that Meredith's Templars are enslaving mages through the Rite of Tranquility even for fun.So the mages have Blood Magic to fight their way out.
>>342267567
Come on it's 2016¡ What do you want?Bikini Armors? Not in Tumbrl the videogame shitlord.
>>342267842
No, I want big plate armor for big boy warriors. NPCs have it, why can't I?
>>342267660
I know. But the deal is, that in order to sympathise with mages, they need to show restraint from going nuclear in spite of being prosecuted. Otherwise actions of the templar order were justified - after all mages did use blood magic.
This breaks the flow of the plot, as I think the authors wanted to show that over the years Meridith is becoming more and more of a despot using "zomg mages use blood magic all day erryday" as justification for ther actions. But we consistently see mages doing just that, thus this erodes the flow of the plot.
In the endw learn that Meridith was under the influence of the red lyriummaking half of the story moot.
The game taking place in one city over the course of several years was a really neat and intuitive concept, but handled absolutely poorly.
The mage animations were fuckikg badass. There were several other cool concepts that failed just as much, such as the framing narrative from that one dwarf that was barely used or utilized.
That's it. Literally everything else was shit.
>>342268043
I bet you play as Qunari too...
The Armor for Qunari PC are even shittier.
I haven't played it, but can it be worse than Origins? Cause that was a garbage game.
>>342268293
Nah, dwarf. Wearing that legion of the dead armor you can craft after finishing the hissing wastes tombs quest. Still looks like shit.
>>342268212
But we see the mages being prosecuted for nothing from the beginning, Ander's friend is an example of that.
So with time, and more mages turned tranquils, more of them revolt against the Templars.
An then in the end shit happen.
>>342267579
I played W3 after DA:I, as I am a sucker for long ass RPGs.
W3 spoiled me to a level where DA:I seems like a poorly written fan fiction.
>>342266123
>certain victory
>most of the island and even plenty of Templar united against Meredith
>pretty sure it'll be a sure victory
>retard first enchanter goes mental and uses blood magic to transform into an abomination and try to stop the people who are trying to help him
what the actual fuck. At least Meredith had an excuse, she was a possessed paranoid schizo.
>>342267567
I like the Armour, mostly because it's pretty easy to do well with less than great armour, and even low grade armour can perform pretty well.
Plus you can "tint" it, both of those mean you don't have to look like Mr. Faggy McEdgelordson in your glowing dragonbone armour unless that floats your boat.
Really other than weaponry, Gear doesn't feel all that important since guard/forcefields are extremely OP
>>342268043
Isn't there a chevalier armor you can get?
the title is spelled correctly
>>342268810
>>retard first enchanter goes mental and uses blood magic to transform into an abomination and try to stop the people who are trying to help him
I read an interview with the designer. He claimed that this was forced, because they wanted another end game boss fight.
In a game driven by plot.
I shit you not.
>>342268761
DA:I is poorly written fan fiction in any case
I have literally read better written doujins
>>342268761
M8, you're comparing a piece of gaming art with a poor's man Skyrim.
>>342268212
"We're not dangerous, we can be trusted!"
>right before we win the war, instead of showing themselves as competent human beings Anders blows up a church and the first enchanter uses blood magic to become a demon
Lyrium, not even once.
>>342268672
I get that. But it does not help if rebel mages are shown to consistently commit the deeds that are pretext to prosecute them.
Kind of ruins the plot. I play solely mages in DA games and I root for them, it was jarring even then. In origins mages shown much more restraint in spite of being pariahs.
>>342269050
why not just have the fucker be a secret bloodmage or be secretly possessed.
The story could have easily done away with red lyrium and been fueled by paranoia, conspiracy and one-upmanship spiraling out of control
>>342269130
Calling something a "poor mans skyrim"is like calling something a "poor mans cheap bottle of wine in a brown paper bag."
>>342269381
Idk, the Circle of Mages in Ferelden is pretty chill compared to Kirkwall one.
Aren't some Templars in Kirkwall even raping some Mages?
>>342260953
better than da:i
last game before bioware went full faggotmode
>>342260953
So we gonna fight elven gods in the next game or what?
>>342269050
If it's written right, I have no problem with there being no final boss fight, so long as there some sort of climax. Hell, even something as simple as a tower climb against the clock fighting elite enemies can work if there has to be action finale.
Bosses are good and all, but ultimately in games that are designed to be about the story primarily, so long as THAT ends in a satisfactory way, I'm golden. Of course, from current Bioware, that's a full impossibility.
>>342268761
I played DA:I before TW3. It was still shit.
>>342269397
It would suffice if siding with templars resulted in fighting this guy, while siding with mages, made us fight meridith. Throwing some extra high demon meat inbetween to spice things up.
But that would require being competent.
>>342269576
Inquisition tries to emulate Skyrim success, and failed miserably.
Big maps with nothing relevant to do,
Story mission are few and short.
Armors and characters are ugly as sin.
Your character has down.
The script is cringeworthy at best.
and so on...
>>342269814
They literally made everyone Bi in DA2. This wasn't the case in DA:I.
>>342268432
Did you play through the game as an elven mage? I really think Origins was meant to be played as an Elven mage.
Arcane warrior/Blood Mage is insanely fun/powerful from a gameplay perspective. Storywise, elves and mages are treated like servants who shouldn't have been born. It's fitting, then, that your character becomes a literal god of war and savior of Ferelden.
Couple that with a frost/lightning/mana clash morrigan and a bard/assassin archer leliana and you're bound to have a good time.
>>342270371
>They literally made everyone Bi in DA2
And still DA2 has less faggoty than DAI
i liked that the elf had kneepit cutouts on her outfit
>>342270649
Drawf noble, everytime. Second game you can only be human, and third I find that it makes sense that you're an female elven mage who romances Solas.
>>342270753
That's debateble.
>>342266917
Where's the option to kill Merill harder, I want her to suffer as much as I have listening to her stupid accent, her stupid beliefs, and her stupid obsession with a mirror.
>Hey Merril that mirror is bad news
>You just don't understand they're not demons they dindu nuffin wrong
>>342262651Morrigan>Leliana>Merill>Cassandra>Josephine>Shemale Alistair>Aveline>Sera>Isabella
>>342271165
>implying welsh accent isn't hot
>>342271340
>implying like actual Welsh people its not stupid and ugly as fuck
Also elves look so terrible in 2, full ayy lmao mode
>>342260953
Merrill showed that bioware could do cute and goofy girl right if they tried.
>>342270371
Everyone being bi in DA2 was good
It doesn't limit my choice as a player
>>342271517
Merrill was a fucking tard.
>>342262687
>Killing the two men who helped save Adamantine
>>342271000
I don't think so, DAI is lecturing you continuosly about the wonders of modern day faggotry.
Krem and Dorian, and even Sera, are SJW wet dreams.
I have cero problems with gay characters in past Bioware games, but Inquisition is David Gaider's faggotry manifest.
>>342266397
DA 2 is the weakest bioware game, fagboy.
>>342262231
>>342262651
Bethany was best girl, but those cheeky cunts at Bioware just had to make her your sister.
>>342271607
>>342271517
Nothing about Merill was right, and pretty much everything was wrong.
>>342262415
>DA:I and ME3
>worse than DA2
That's some shit taste you have there.
>>342271743
Not when Mass Effect and Dragon Age: Inquisition exist
And yes I mean ME1, fucking unplayable piece of shit, I hadn't played a clunkier game since the ps1
You can be as gay as you want without feeling guilty.
>>342271945
Dragon Age Inquisition is not a bad game, the only problem are the sidequests.
>>342271910
I can understand ME3, at least the core mechanics were good
But DA:I was horseshit
Fucking hold X to continuously attack was horrendous
>>342272029
Gay ≠faggot
>>342264164
Get away from me, gypsy whore.
>>342271340
It isn't.
>>342271865
Nah she was pretty believable and still interesting as a character.
I wanted to fuck Meredith.
Sarcastic mage Hawke.
Bullying Merrill.
Arishok.
Varric.
Solid combat system sadly ruined by repetition and waves of enemies.
Rivalry system up to hatefucks.
DAI is certainly worse than DA2.
>>342272146
Absolutely not
Terrible animations, Pathetic writing, Ugly character models except for Morrigan, Dysfunctional controls, Horrible character creation
These things plauged the game and it was a really unpolished mess
>>342272171
Aside from the hold button shit DA2 combat was pretty much the same shit. Only everything else about the game was objectively worse.
>>342272593
>Arishok.
>Varric
Correct, anon. Two small diamonds in the mud known as DA2.
>>342272459
>everyone on the fucking planet tells her demons are bad
>she sees this multiple times while traveling with you
>still uses the mirror
she was fucking retarded and deserved to suffer
>>342272797
>can't burn the city and all its degenerates together with Arishok
>>342272593
>copypasted areas
>the plot
>anders
>fenris
>every mage is a blood mage and every templar is an asshole
>no character creation or origins
DA2 is objectively worse.
>>342272861
She had her own life experience prior to meeting Hawke and dabbled into the blood magic regularly on top of having an immense hardon over elven culture. Coupled with her being a naive girl it's really not surprising she used it.
>>342272797
>>342272593
Probably helps the whole Qunari invasion subplot started as DAO dlc, that could have been awesome.
>>342272861
No demons dindu nuffin!
>>342272679
No
In DA2 you don't have to walk up to every single fucking thing to pick it up
You had healing spells
You had good conpanions
You had a better MC
You had a better party
You had better locations because DA:I was that fucking bad
You had the friendship/rivarly meter
You had way less fetch quests
You didn't havd to wait real hours to do side-shit
You didn't have to do side-crap to progress
Inquisition is a pile of shit, DA2 is a flawless masterpiece by comparison
>>342273075
Copypasted areas are the objective DA2 weakness but enormous, empty, boring fields of DAI filled with nothing but fetch quests are not better.
Anders being a terrorist faggot was actually hilarious, there's no character in DAI who did anything remotely as fun.
Fenris was sold back to his own master during my each playthrough.
Also inquisitor has even less roleplaying options than Hawke, he always uses neutral responses, you can't play as a sarcastic or evil person.
>>342260953
I thought it was really good before I played origins
>>342272861
Eh she knows demons are alright as long as you can control them.
>teasing Merrill
>>342273289
DA2's spell variety was better in general.
Whole force mage arsenal was hilarious.
>>342273593
>killing her entire Clan
>>342273720
Oh hell yes
I remember the shitstorm around DA2 but I liked it
Inquisition was actually ridiculously appalling
>>342273829
Wtf was up with that? I just completed a quest and they all aggroed.
>>342273829
The best part was convincing her it was a good thing. Man, I love offing off those snobby "real" Elves.
>>342260953
You can BTFO out of those shithead mages
>>342273593
>Bully the shit out Merrill the whole game
>Romance her at full rival
Straight up smashing her stupid mirror was the best part.
>>342274081
See, that's a good thing about Merryl, at the end see understand how wrong she was the entire time.
On the other hand we have Inquisition and someone like Sera, I like her moments, but she never evolve, even after the events in the Temple she still hates elves and shit.
>being a big baldur's gate fanboy
>dragon age gets announced
>fell for the spiritual successor meme hard
Was there anything nice about DA to begin with? Maybe i'm missing something. Maybe it's legitimately a great game, Maybe I shouldn't compare it to BG.
>>342272797
And the sarcastic Hawk.
I loved be a cheeky cunt for the entire game and having fun with Varric.
But i wanted to do it in a more fun game with more places to explore than the same map just from a different entrance.
The banter is god-tier.
https://youtu.be/fXf-tjnHhCU
>>342274926
It should have just been an adventure game/visual novel/dating sim
The rpg parts were honestly the worst, making less of them and creating specific set-pieces for each encounter would have benefited the game a lot
>>342274915
You should play Sword Coast Legends, it's a spiritual successor to DA:O and BG
>>342262664
They patched it out after there was a bunch of backlash when you had two choices and the non-romance one gave you negative points. You lost points if you don't try to suck his dick after the first time meeting him
Varic was one of the best characters in the series
The races looking more distinct was nice (to bad you could only play human)
Rogue and Warrior felt more defined than in origins.
Since DA:I came out it looks better and better by the day.
>>342275483
bullshit, that choice only happened if you flirted with him previously
Name one group more entertaining than shale/og/morg
I'm waiting
>there are people who actually killed Hawke in DAI
>>342275874
WHY
>>342275874
By the time I got that far into DAI I stopped giving a fuck about choices and just wanted to see the end of the whole Corypheus thing
>>342275874
>saving Hawke over based Loghain
>ever
>>342274915
I think Origins is exactly what you expected. A worthy spiritual successor to BG. They introduced a lore rich world with interesting concepts (magic coming with a price, the fade world, darkspawn scourge etc) which got me personally hooked right from the get go. I spent hundreds of hours playing different characters. DA Origins is in my opinion one of the best games in the last 10 years.
For me they dropped the ball with DA2, maybe on its own it wouldn't have left SUCH a sour taste but coming from Origins... Man it hurt me physically. It actually killed me a bit inside because since then I could never get this invested in a franchise / setting again.
https://youtu.be/Z8jWhGR8dus
>>342260953
The party member interaction is the best I've seen in this type of game. Your party members regularly have interactions that are based off of what's happening in the main story, what's happening in their personal sidequests, and who is currently in your group, and sometimes all three of those things effect the conversation at once.
>>342260953
you hot to kill that fuckboi hippie anders in the end and you got Varric
>>342260953
It's hair looks, small.
>>342260953
I liked that the game spanned several years. It was fun to see stuff change over time.
>>342262414
Yes.
Anders is arguably worse, though. He knows that blowing up innocent people isn't going to solve anything, but he does it anyway.
>>342275874
>letting loghain finally die
Are you retarded? My origins char didn't needlessly sacrifice himself just so loghain could get away with an easy death
>>342260953
It's better than nothingjk, I wish it didn't exist
>>342260953
Varric was a good character. The concept itself of having a plot spanning years within one location is very appealing to me.
Otherwise, I fucking hate it.
>>342275791
Bullshit I never flirted with that fag
>>342265042
You have got to be fucking kidding. ME2 had its flaws, but Inquisition was a fucking travesty.
>You couldn't bone your sister
Not because the was the best girl, but because the was the least shit girl.
>>342276138
>Isabella teasing Sebastian by telling him that Hawke fucks her silly
>>342274915
Dragon Age Origins is a fantastic game.
>mfw dropping niggas with the murder knife
>>342276551
>Varric was a good character.
Why does he suck your dick for seven years, though?
>>342260953
I'm playing through Gothic, Witcher and Dragon Age series in chronological order, as I missed them all when they originally came out.
However, I'm dreading DA2. I don't know why it sucks, I'm only being told it does. I already didn't enjoy DA1's gameplay. No idea what to expect. Should I skip it?
I only played this game once as a rogue. Shit was pretty cash with aveline tanking, varric doing his shit and merril being op as fuck. If I were to play this as a two hand using warrior type, what's the best teammates and can this class even compete on the highest difficulty?
The middle act with the Qunari was legitimately good.
>>342276687
I love how Alistair looks like he wishes he was anywhere else.
>>342276740
Because he wants you to succeed and who wouldn't want to suck Hawke's dick?
>>342276687
I liked DA:O all right, but there's long stretches of mediocre bullshit. And the seeds of failure were already planted.
>>342276687
>that moment in your solo arcane warrior playthrough when you finally get enough offensive spells together with your passive ones to become death
>>342276743
No. You gotta play it. It was so loathsome by the third act that I had to be drunk just to play it.
Have fun.
>>342276740
some people are just drawn to other people, I just liked his interactions with Hawke with all that quipping and friendly flirting
>>342264745
>Or do the patrician thing and go full rivalry and turn her into a house wife.
God that was delicious. "I'm going to go on adventures!" "No, you're going to stay at home and clean my boots." "Yes, Hawke..."
>>342276687
>this blood is sticky
>my feet hurt
>why does Morrigan look like a pug
>>342260953
I can't say something nice about this game
it's 100% trash, i'm still fucking mad and i will be mad my whole fucking life
>>342277268
>>why does Morrigan look like a pug
HAH
>>342260953
The fact that partners had different skills depending on whether they liked you or hated you.
despite dragon age origins being the better game, i think i played 2 more... after the origin stories, the rest of the missions felt more linear for some reason. i still love them, but i don't know... i think dragon age 2 is more replayable.
plus dragon age 2 has better music. best tavern theme coming through
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcMbTg9qtNk
>>342276687
Alistair being a fucking cuck as always.
>>342269814
This. DA2 was heavily flawed, but it was the last Bioware game that didn't make me feel sick to play. The repeated areas and graphical downgrades were bad, but they didn't ruin the game. The ending was fucking stupid, but it didn't ruin the game.
ME3 and DA:I, on the other hand, are just awful. ME3's ending retroactively ruined the entire series, and DA:I has no redeeming qualities what-so-ever.
I actually thought DA2 was pretty alright. I mean, the repeating locations and ANOTHER WAVE were a bit annoying but I've certainly played worse games.
>>342271865
I could have lesbian sex with her, and she was cute before she went full retard.
>>342277824
made a cover for it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKXr_w4Zm1k
>>342278060
Considering Alistair has the possibility to cuck you in this game that's not exactly true.
>>342273075
Fenris was great, mate.
Anders would have been a fine character if he wasn't already established as a completely different character in DA:A.
I would say that it is actually competing among the top three (gothic 4, Ultima IX, DA:II) for worst rpg sequel of all time. It is so far gone the only compliment could be to just how far it took sucking.
You could say the polish was decent, but then, that doesn't mean shit if it's fundamentally awful
>>342278354
>Fenris was great, mate.
He's a bad stereotypical JRPG character in every single fucking detail and it's played completely seriously.
>>342278268
>It cemented the series as my de facto favorite vg series of all time
This is the saddest thing I have ever read
>>342273080
>>342273528
>>342272861
I actually liked that she didn't take what was told to her at face value. And she was right that there was nothing inherently wrong or evil about using blood magic.
The point that I stopped liking her, though, was when she fucked up bad with the demon, but then wouldn't even admit that she fucked up.
>>342262415
I thought DA:I and ME3 were awful, but jesus christ, it is not even close to DA2
>>342278615
that's why you go rivalry route and fuck all this stupidity from her NEET head
TEVINTER MAGE GAME WHEN? I WANNA ASSAULT THE FUCKING MAKER
>>342260953
>soloing the Arishok as Mage Hawke on Nightmare
Shit was hard as fuck
>>342278751
even if current bioware will make a tevinter DA it won't ever let you be an evil asshole sorcerer
>>342278542
At least he wasn't a mage apologist like 90% of the characters in the game.
>Hey, I'm a stranger you've never met before, I need you to help me kill someone and I can't explain why. You just have to trust me
Thanks, bioware, yeah great way to make sure this companion never joins up with a true moralfag.
>>342278876
Right, the next one is probably all about the good hero stopping Solas
>>342278990
>mage apologist
Mages did nothing wrong. If you didn't wanna be immilated by a fireball maybe you should have been a mage
>>342276743
One of the main problems I had with the game is the reuse of assets.
90% of the dungeons is literally the same map (the only difference is that you either go from entrance to exit or from exit to entrance and sometimes a new door is unlocked).
One of the other problems is that you can't change to armor of your companions, they're stuck with the same outfit (excluding some unlocked stat upgrades) the entire game.
Backup waves of enemies literally drop out of the air from nowhere.
DA II still has the foundation to be a good game, but all the finishing touches are missing/fucked up.
DA II is like the skeleton of a house covered with tarps instead of actual walls, sure it's going to keep you dry and protects you from the wind, but it's far from comfortable.
If you can get the game for a couple of bucks, I would recommended a quick playthrough (it's honestly not worth it to go the completionist route).
Just do all the main missions (The Qunari-related stuff is definitely interesting) and the side-missions that seem interesting to you.
>>342278717
Yeah, I still kind of wish I had gone back and done that. The problem was I agreed with her about the blood magic! Just not about making pacts with demons.
>>342278542
>he has white hair and a big sword, so he's a jrpg stereotype
>Be a Dalish Elf or Dwarf who seen the superior ways of Humans
>Join the Chantry
>Work my way up
>Kill all of my enemies
>Be the leader of the major human religion
>Cause chaos everywhere
Fucking DLC when?!
>people hating on DA inquisition
Is it because anything not Southpark featuring any 'gay' makes you scream "LGBT tumblrinas did this!!" or because of the amazing "hamburger helper" meme? Inquisition has a fun combat system that keeps you on your toes, coupled with gorgeous huge living worlds and an engaging story line.
Let's summarize: Great gameplay coupled with great art direction and a satisfying story, and it gets memed on. The sins of our fathers eh?
>>342279047
>make sure this companion never joins up with a true moralfag
you're roleplaying in a BioWare game?
>>342279304
Crazy, right?
>>342260953
DA2 probably has my favorite party in the series.
>>342279242
You're fucking joking right? The characters are fuck ugly and fucking annoying, the quests are all MMO tier and the combat is boring as shit.
>>342278567
mostly by virtue of origins being my favorite video game of all time, although in retrospect, calling the series my favorite was probably a gross exaggeration. but i really did enjoy 2, and at the time i thought inquisition was pretty impressive.
>>342279047
You talking about Isabella? Because she knows Anders from Origins, and she knows Varric because everyone in Lowtown knows Varric.
>>342279403
The best thing was they all genuinely felt like buddies. Like they didn't need to join Hawke because they needed to save the world or fufill some personal goals, but rather because they wanted to.
>>342279513
>Because she knows Anders from Origins
No she doesn't.
>>342279513
Nah, the elf twink. I don't remember his name or care to.
>>342279492
What part was the most impressive about inquisition?
the bullet sponge enemies? mages nerfed even further? the pointless open world that had absolutely nothing interesting going on and stupid collectibles? the fetch quests?
>>342279409
The combat is pretty great if you remove class restrictions to armour and weapons at least.
>>342275791
You're mistaken, it really does happen even if you don't flirt with him. I'm not sure what precisely you chose but I assure you I never chose to flirt and he put that choice on me anyway
>>342262991
Let mehugCarver, biower
>>342279242
Go fuck yourself
See
>>342272657
>>342266397
>>342273720
>>342273289
>>342273396
>>342270174
>>342279403
who's the asian chick? third from the right
>>342280052
Bethany
Your sister
You can't fuck her
>>342279403
Honestly it's one of the only RPGs where I loath the entire party. I guess the soldier chick was alright and the dwarf. But I wish I could fire literally everyone else.
>>342280124
Looks nothing like her whatsoever
Even that retarded Anders looks more accurate
>game is bashed for lgbt propaganda
>the only faggot in cast is a mentally unstable, lying terrorist with questionable ideas
>>342279667
No, she does. It's a possible outcome because he joins your party in Awakening.
>>342279242
>Fun combat
Nigger I actually really enjoyed DA:I and the combat made me want to take a nap. I played a rouge specing in bows, as I always do, and it's MMO-tier combat.
Also, I'm a George Forman, and I don't give any fucks about any gay that's not horrifically forced. The funniest thing about the tranny though is that Bioshit didn't bother to code it right so it is always standing on it's chair.
>>342278321
I forgot about how many different solutions there are to the Arch Demon problem.
>>342280291
The best way to represent real gays, to be honest.
>>342276946
>Arcane warrior play through
>Still using party
>Main healer and tank
>DPS loading screen pops up
>Dealing the most damage as well
Fucking Arcane Warriors are retarded
>>342280310
and Isabella doesn't appear in DA:O:A
>>342280456
you should be fucking glad you went archer rogue, everything else needs forever to take one enemy down
even the best spells are worthless
>>342279885
Then just say no. It doesn't even give you that many rivalry points anyway. Do you fuck any guy who asks you?
>>342262991
Right.
The core concept surrounding a bunch of people's evolving lives in a city over a number of years is completely fine so that stays.
Kirkwall needs to be much, much bigger. Double or triple the amount of areas, make it feel like I'm in a huge sprawling city and have these areas open, close and evolve over the years depending upon my choices.
In the original game itself each year feels like an utterly separate plot all badly conjoined together which is my main gripe with the game. Open up with the mage and templar plot being forefront and not just in a few sparse sidequests. Introduce Orsino and Meredith early on so we have a face for both factions. The Qunari plot is great how it is but it definitely shouldn't have been an introduction to what would eventually turn out to be the "main plot" so to speak. More of a challenge that showed how mages and templars would deal with a monumental crisis like that.
For gameplay just build on DAO's system. Fuck that "awesome button" or whatever the fuck he called it, fuck the enemies coming in waves in a fashion you couldn't prepare for.
>>342279648
I liked the family dynamic that most of the group had. Origins and Inquisition had moments of good banter, but DA2's the one that really built on the idea of these people learning to live together while developing different relationships with one another, unless they hated the whole group like Anders and Fenris.
>>342276687
>Dr.Warden I'm WITCH.
>>342280781
She does appear in the game.
>>342280248
>Looks nothing like her whatsoever
The faces of Beth and Carver are actually different depending on which base (preset) face you use for Hawke.
Haven't played it.
Did they ever touch up on what happens after you fuck morrigan? Shes takes your seed and leaves. Then what
>>342260953
It was the best dragon age game.
>>342260953
Saved some money thanks to DA2 by never buying another Bioware game new.
>>342281049
Damn every face other than the first ones look completely out of place.
>>342281049
That doesn't make her a chink though
>>342279739
graphic-wise it was a joy to look at(except for facial animation). cool weather effects, particles, lighting looked really sweet. i mean, that jungle area with the green dragon looked amazing. it was more open than either previous games. combat was a lot more fun than origins, but felt more tactical, dragon fights were awesome. crafting was awesome. i liked the characters. it has the best music in the series. most of the companion side quests were excellent. i liked watching my fort grow...
i mean, it has problems, tons of. the more i played the more i noticed them, but your a blind buffoon if you think that the game is worthless. it's still a pretty damn good game, regardless, and i stand by it.
>>342278321
>be besties with Morrigan
>teach her about friendship
>love/fuck Alistair because he is moe and his vunerability makes me moist
>end of the game, Morrigan hesitantly asks to fuck Alistair, knowing otherwise one of us dies
>Let her cuck me because she's my sis and I don't want my husbando to die, even though I would be okay dying for him
>Before final fight Morrigan tells me how much our friendship means to her
>Go to Weisshaupt with cucked husbando, never to see sis again
It was a tough decision, but I don't regret it. In fact, I have played DA:O 3 times over and done the exact same thing the exact same way every time.
>>342281050
Not in DA2, but Morrigan does show up in Inquisition with the godbabby (if she had one)
>>342281250
Top right corner is the "asian" face preset. It's hard to see in Bethany from this angle, but just look at Carver's super-sayan hair.
>>342280881
I liked the three separate arcs. I mean why would you ever meet Orsino or Meredith in the first arc? You're a literal nobody in a city full of nobodies.
>>342281269
If you wanna be a graphics fag, at least don't jerk off about the most mediocre shit. You disgust me.
>combat was a lot more fun than origins
Jesus
>but felt more tactical
Stopped reading, I just realized you're 14
>>342280531
Also, Origins is one of the rare games that let's you be an anti-hero and a jerk without being pointlessly evil.
>>342281030
Where?
>>342260953
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJMJN8FeOIs
>>342260953
The español had great tits.
Isabella maybe ?
>>342281285
>you will never get to fuck your best bro's girl with all parties being satisfied by the results
Being the one doing the cucking is a great feeling.
>>342281764
That's her.
>>342281647
In Denerim. She teaches you the Duelist job if you beat her at cards.
>>342281734
hell yeah, I completely forgot about BU'ON AWESOME
>>342281882
Holy fuck. Yes, in ORIGINS. Anders appeared in AWAKENING. In the first Dragon Age game the two characters DID NOT MEET. Is this clear?
>>342281882
He is talking about awakening.
But she visits the whorehouse, so does Anders. They are both sluts, so they fucked.
>>342263691
>Merrill and Isabela's relationship
Cute.
>>342281882
Do you just straight up not know what Awakening is?
>>342281521
stop denying the truth. dragon age inquisition had fantastic graphics in certain parts, better than witcher 3 sometimes as well. i don't care how frustrating your job at the post office is you have to accept the truth when it's right in front of you. feel it inside, deep down, where you find your center, and you'll know. it's all true.
>>342282189
In which parts, exactly?
>>342276084
Origins was great. Then in 2 they tried to mix action into their CRPG and just ended up making it mashy as hell in combat, tedious as hell hammering the basic attack button constantly. DA2 did some things well, it had more developed sidequests for the most part. Then in DA Inquisition the game is having an identity crisis. It doesn't do anything well and is just a mostly bland and thoroughly mediocre game. Interesting side quests are few and far between. 90% of it is fetching an item, being told to go kill some enemies, or finding a note that tells you to do one of those two things. There's hardly anyone to actually talk to and you don't get to make any choices outside the main quest and companion quests. They fucked it up real bad.
>>342260953
The characters were more interesting than the story
>>342279242
Mate. If you removed all faggotry from DA:I, it would remain boring, drawn out, filler infested, incoherent shit.
DA:I is one of the few games I rushed to the end at lowered difficulty to just get the relevant plot points to get some sort of closure.
Bioware even fucked up the goddamn ending by "your bad guy came to your doorstep, now go kill him" the plot.
>>342260953
Some of the weapons, armors and robes are kind of cool.
This whole series is a joke made to pander LGBT faggits and anyone remotely invested and seriously discussing this shit ITT should get gassed this instant.
>>342276772
After playing a rogue everything else is going to feel weak as shit. I'm not exaggerating, the damage difference is very noticeable. Even 2H warrior can't compete with rogue's ridiculous damage.
I get the feeling that, like DS2, /v/ hates the game but when I end up playing it it's gonna be pretty solid.
DA2 or Kingdoms of Amalur?
>>342282993
Either both are pretty meh. I've never finished Amalur though, I never get past the second zone without losing interest.
>>342282902
detected the butthurt soulsnigger.
>>342262991
I've thought a lot about how to fix DA2. Considering its nature as a city adventure, I sometimes feel it, and not Inquisition, should have been open world. In a perfect world, they would have spent the time it took for DA2 + its expansions + Inquisition to be made to craft an intricate, intimate version of Kirkwall. Give it as much side content as Inquisition, but bigger and where it actually matters. Have entire side-plots that you can go the whole game without noticing. Optional content isn't shit. At least it's not in my opinion. Have it tie into the game's inevitable finale, make it worth doing for a 'perfect' ending but don't make it so necessary that your world state sucks if you don't do it.
Give options for customizing the manor. Have lots of side activities you can do once you earn it. Make Wicked Grace an actual game. Again, hindsight, but look at how much people like Gwent in Witcher 3. Playing actual games with the companions for fun at your house wild be nice. Building a trophy room and filling it with your kills would be fun, too. Actually give the player the money after Varric's expedition and give them craptons of options on how to spend it. Hell, have pieces of ownable property in the city. Getting to actually own the hanged man would be nice. Want to include time-wasting stuff? Buy shipping companies and send your ships out like Kenway's fleet from AC4, but on the right side of the law. Have the options for large 'gifts' you can buy with money. Buy Isabela an actual ship, help Anders build escape routes for mages, donate to the guard and A) make Aveline super happy and B) get more guards out on the street, which would help when your group got ambushed. Have the city feel lively. Mark the ten years with different events. That tourney that happens every year in the Free Marches or something? Let us go to it and try to win, with special prizes if we manage to, especially early on in the story. So much I want to say.
>>342282425
What the fuck happened to bioware's ability to make a sidequest? Inquisition has the same problem as mass effect 3 where you don't even directly pick up most of the side quests.
Most of the time I don't even know who the fuck I'm talking to or what the quest even is I'm completing because I picked up a codex a hour ago.
>>342282947
I just loved being able to almost immediately take out a huge threat in a combat situation with teleporting and backstabbing. It was also required in some fights on high difficulty to instantly delete an enemy, something that's gonna be hard as anything not-rogue
>>342282993
>DA2 or Kingdoms of Amalur?
jeebus, my mind just tore itself apart trying to decide that
play DA2, your suffering is shorter there
Amalur has to be one of the worst games I've played in recent memory
>boring combat that consists of spamming three combos and 1 or 2 skills over and over, o matter what you spec into
>you're immediately overleveled, making the combat even more dull
>pretty much the entire world is pointless, it just has mind-numbingly boring dungeons and dumb fetch sidequests that you stop caring for 0.1 seconds in
>most cookie-cutter story ever created
It's basically like an MMO but even more retarded
I FUCKING HATE THIS GAME
>>342282754
>your bad guy came to your doorstep, now go kill him
>spent entire game building up huge ass army
>expect to have to wage a huge, grueling war
>negotiate with various factions/countries/groups, unite them all under one alliance
>shits like High Fantasy NATO on lyrium-based steroids
>Big Red better prepare his anus
>lol nevermind! Corypheus is at the front door! He just wants to 1v1 you!
That game was just full of let downs. Main questline, Necromancer specialization, MMO-style fetch quests, item variety... god damn...
>>342283221
I don't know man, they need to sort this garbage out. It would take less work to make a well developed sidequest than to make up the unique text for these hundreds of notes you find on the floor that give you tedious fetch quests when you pick them up.
>>342283704
>>342283221
It's because the people who still buy their games don't give a fuck about sidequests, they just want companion quests so they can post on their tumblr how they got triggered by someone saying their favorite faggot is shit
>>342276946
>finally get enough offensive spells together with your passive ones to become death
Nigger all you needed was mana clash.
Watching daemons DISSAPEAR after casting that spell was amazing.
>>342283935
mana clash definitely helps me get enemy mages off my back (stop casting curse of mortality, fuck), but it's useless against a million werewolves trying to overwhelm you
>>342260953
GOTTA GO FAST
goddamn being a rouge was the SHIT in this game. Combo into finisher then assassinate; killed anything in one rotation. Then dash to the next fucker. DLC was pretty cash too. My favorite of all the DAs even if stuck in one city the whole time
>>342282412
flame effects, lightning effects, weather effects. sand looked better (inquisition actually had sand areas), vegetation texture was fantastic as well.... look at some pictures, it's not hard.
Souds like /v/ actually liked it. Can't we stop being tsundere and admit it was a decent game? The copy pasted dungeons was the only glaring flaw I can think off. Pretty comfy game overall, albeit very dated for its time.
>>342281269
>cool weather effects
There is no weather system, so the weather effects are static to certain locations which is stupid and hilarious
>lighting looked really sweet
Oh yeah, made everything look like reflective plastic whether it was hair, skin, or cloth
>crafting was awesome
Crafting sucked because of that shitty, buggy UI that wouldn't display stats and information correctly and was designed to be used with a controller
>combat... felt more tactical
Seriously? How was it more tactical? They removed your ability to issue orders to your henchmen and every fight was a directional untargeted damage sponge beat-em-up.
>companion side quests were excellent
Top kek. Yeah like meeting Vivienne's lover and getting the Basilisk heart. Or watching a cutscene of Iron Bull's men dying in their boat. So moving. Ever if there were a couple decent side quests, they were nothing more than moments of adequacy in a sea of total mediocrity.
>>342283652
>Necromancer in DA:I
What the heck were they thinking. Its a CC dispenser with one nuking move and they both suck...
>>342284316
I don't know what's worse, the clipping or that terrible tumblr haircut she has.
>>342283652
>Necromancer
>Can't summon undead
WHY DID YOU EVEN MAKE THE CLASS
>>342284316
You can still go into the tactical mode to issue specific orders. Not that it matters, it's shitty as hell and the companions will take too long to do what you tell them to. You tell them to use mighty blow on a frozen enemy and they pace around like a retard for five seconds before they use the ability and waste the shatter combo opportunity. Better off just directly controlling the whole party to get it done right and on time.
>>342284253
Just goes to show, make trees that kinda look like a matte painting and retarded underageb&s will worship it as looking awesome
>>342283165
Fuck you guys, have another post of me rambling.
More interactions. With everyone. Arishok and Hawke talking was good. Have us end up doing things that push us into visiting him in the Qunari compound over the years. In this hypothetical open world scenario, represent it and have it be to scale if we're supposed to believe the Qunari could take over the city. More with Meredith, and earlier. This will take the story in some different directions but that's not necessarily a bad thing. Sell the templars and mages BOTH as scummy later on. Perhaps have a choice that either involves someone you care about getting the shaft or having you/Bethany outed as a mage to Meredith. If the latter, you end up still free but working for her to keep it that way. She's still reasonable in the earlier years so it could, perhaps, make sense.
More Orsino, too. And don't have him go nuts for the finale on the mage route. If you side with the Templars, let HIM be the final boss. Let us go inside the gallows, whether to visit Bethany or on a tour ourselves before Meredith says "...but you're not gonna stay here because you work for me on the outside now." Show us how horrible it is there, how oppressive the conditions.
Have the other characters have set love interests for if you don't pick them. Fenris and Isabela have a thing if you don't romance either of them in the game already, expand on it. Have Carver and Merrill's thing be fleshed out, with you having the option to help your brother out with her when he visits (because Grey Wardens can visit, and templars can do what they please). For that matter, give us the option to have Bethany/Carver still if we go the Circle/Templar route with them. As is, I never see a reason -not- to take Carver with me to the deep roads. Bethany was also valuable as a team mage and per Meredith's "you owe me now" if you take that option, she could be set free. Have side-quests that deal with Varric and his merchant guild stuff.
>>342284502
Plus the phantom ally that spawns from enemies killed with that one spell still counts as an enemy so it makes it take longer to exit combat. You have to wait until its timer runs out or force disengage.
>>342284306
The biggest flaw will always be the story being complete fucking ass. If the game had just ended with chapter 2 it would have been so much better.
>>342284768
Yeah, my mistake. They neutered the tactics system to irrelevance rather than outright removed it.
>>342284502
>>342284601
Its a strange combination of entropy and entropy skills from DAO and DA2 with a focus ability thats been ripped off of creation. One skill has a "summon" aspect to it.
Speaking of which... what happened to all the schools of magic anyway?ENTROPY RULES
>>342283165
>>342284971
All good ideas, Anon
>>342285145
not flashy enough
more bright lights, less damage was their design philosophy
Started a new DA:O game though I'm already getting a bit bored with it. Are there any good mods out there?
>>342284971
Incorporate Legacy and MOTA into the base game, at set points. It's evident by the way the Grey Wardens act in their Act II and III appearances that something fishy is going on with the wardens. Considering that Inquisition is being made in this hypothetical scenario, you need to set up Corypheus early. Have his influence be felt very subtly throughout the game. Also, take advantage of Varric and Cassandra's exchanges more.
Every. Single. One of them was fantastic. I'd suggest having brief parts where you actually control Varric's dialogue so that when Cassandra asks "and what did the Champion do about x", you could have Varric give the mini-epilogues about how Hawke handled the consequences of his/her actions that go beyond Kirkwall itself. On that note, have more excursions outside of Kirkwall and have them be about Legacy length, and just as detailed.
As for MOTA, have it happen near the end of the game. Use it to set up sequel hooks for Inquisition, a game that (in this hypothetical fuck you scenario) will take place mostly in Orlais. Have the option to side with Prosper and kill Tallis. If you do this, have the consequences of outing Qunari spies get shown. It will weaken them -greatly- when their invasion comes, but Hawke will be enemy number one of the Qunari state. If Divine Justinia is going to still die in the beginning of Inquisition, have us meet her several times. Make us care about her in the core games, without having to rely on novels and one Origins dlc that you wouldn't even know was connected.
Use the key from Legacy as an excuse to give us ONE customizable weapon that we can change based on our spec. Let us build it how we want, and give us lots of options without needing to collect 100 hard to find items like in Inquisition. Also, again, hindsight, but do the thing from Inquisition where any companion can wear any class armor, but personalized. That was an excellent touch.
I haven't used tactics since DA:O Awakening, except to chug heal pots in DA2
why is it still in the game? It's pointless as fuck at this point.
>>342275263
>Still riding side-saddle with your betters, Junior?
>>342278354
>>342278542
It was mainly his voice actor. Nearly anyone else and he would have been unbearable.
It's better than Inquisition.
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