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So what character are you playing? What do you think needs to be nerfed/buffed?
Reduce Reinhardt Swingspeed
Increase hitbox size for Genji and Tracer
Slow Reaper Firerate
Remove all Defense maps
Server Browser
Fix netcode
Buff zenyatta and DVA. Nobody needs nerfs.
>>342232670
I play Tracer and I think Tracer needs to be buffed to have more impact on the game instead of just being an annoyance.
>>342232670
game is fine as it is after the most recent nerf
anyone who says literally anything otherwise is retarded and is obviously either:
a. playing on a console so is irrelevant
b. top tier shitter
>>342232746
>Reduce Reinhardt Swingspeed
>>342232746
>>342232767
you're both fucking retarded
I play Symmetra any chance I get on defense, but she needs some work. I hate not being able to charge my ult when a portal is already on the field. Shield buff barely makes a difference.
>>342232818
Agreed
>>342232670
Buff D.va, I have no real problems with anyone else.
>>342232670
Nerf Reinhardt Shield and the charge rate of mercy ult
DELETE MEI
>>342233119
>t. Bastion player
>>342232767
ur shit tracer is fine
>constistently get gold medals
>always push, willing to play support
>have lost the last 8 games
>win 1 game
>proceed to lose another 5
Is this the forced 50% win rate applying itself?
>>342233286
I swear, when I get frozen by Mei all I can think about is watching that icicle coming out of the barrel. It's like the Aliens' second jaw. You just know death is coming.
>>342233342
Are you implying a bastion can't blow through a reinhardt shield?
>>342232670
I usually play Reinhardt unless no one is running a Mercy or Lucio. I've been trying to git gud with Zarya too. If the team is horseshit and not worth tanking for/healslutting I just go Soldier 76 and CoD it up. Also like playing Junkrat/Roadhog occasionally.
I think the game is pretty well balanced now. McREE isn't so annoying but doesn't seem ineffective. Shitters should just play the fucking game and adapt rather than whining about it online until one character or the other that annoys them is nerfed into the ground.
>>342233565
Yes. There's no other explanation other than the game purposely putting you on potato squads.
>>342233585
It's truly terrifying. That fucking smug cunt.I play Mei on control maps
Who /tank/ here?
>>342233565
Same thing happened to me.
I'll go support!
>Get pounded into the dirt
(Several deaths later, due to getting ganged up on or abandoned by my team) Alright then, I'll go tank!
>Get pounded into the dirt
(Several deaths later, due to getting ganged up on or abandoned by my team) Okay, I'll go defense
>Get pounded into the dirt
(Several deaths later, due to getting ganged up on or abandoned by my team) Fine, I'll go attack
>Get pounded into the dirt
I really sick of the matchmaking in this game.
Seven losses in a row. And the last one was Volskaya on defense which is supposed to be unimpregnable, assuming your teammates aren't syphilitic gibbons.I checked my stats just now: 51% win rate.
Raise Reinhardt's ult charge per sec when escorting or capturing or give more for blocking but not both.
Reduce Reapers HP by 50. Then give it to Pharah.
Give Winston's ult a secondary attack that does increased damage but at the cost of a higher cooldown and reduced knockback.
Increase Zenyattas HP by 25
Increase Bastions time to revert to recon mode by 1 second
Increase Bastions healing to gun mode to one second
Give Mei's Ice wall 400 HP per block
Games pretty balanced otherwise.
>when your mine hits just right and knocks off several people and a vengeful guy sneaks up you, steps in your trap and kills you as your martyrdom grenades kill him as well.
>>342234009
>No Zarya
GIT
U
D
>>342233585
>Lucio
>See this chink throw out her ultimate
>Speed my team up to get out
>Proceed to rek
It's even more satisfying pushing her away as she tries to kill another team mate.
weeks on from launch and people STILL don't seem to grasp that you're supposed to switch heroes to suit the situation. This is ridiculous. How is a concept this simple too much of a stretch for pubbies?
The idea of people who will main a character, even when they are the ones who clearly need to change (eg choosing last, need support but going fucking genjie) enrage me to no fucking end, so many faggots have no idea how to play team games
>>342234009
Reinhardt represent
I mainly play McCree on offense, Torb on defense, D.Va and Winston for Tanks, and Lucio for support
I also like Tracer, S76, and Zenyatta
>>342234563
Because you're playing a Blizzard game. The fanbase went from doing Mythic raids to feeding Zaryas and Bastions
>>342234563
>The majority of the people you share this planet with are borderline retarded: News at 11
>slightly increase McCree's damage or at least increase single shot hitbox
>reduce Hanzo's ult charge rate
>reduce Mercy's ult charge rate
>increase DVa ult charge rate
OR
>slightly increase DVa damage
>reduce movement speed of DVa when firing by only 25%
>remove healing on Ice Block
>give Zenyatta +25 health
>reduce armor given to Torb during Molten Core
Fucker is almost unkillable during his ult
>slightly increase Roadhog reload speed
OR
>increase Roadhog ammo capacity to 6 shots
>reduce cooldown on Helix Rockets by 2 seconds
That's all I got.
>>342234598
Seriously. Had a team that refused to change last night that just could not push the point to start the Payload on Numbani. I was only support, so switch to DVa with 30 secs left, make a solo push taking out sniper and turret, the rest of the mouthbreathers stop lobbing shots to finally march in and take point. Switch back to support and win game. Why is switching for a tactical use so hard for people?
Only scrubs main characters
And every one that I've seen has been dogshit/ragequitters
>>342234563
There are some heroes that work for every situation.
>>342234132
is this a pasta now?
>>342235175
I don't main, but I always have a 'starter' character that I pick. Always change when needed.
>>342235269
No, this happened just before but the thread I originally posted it in died and I'm still salty.
Buff Winston
>>342235206
no there aren't.
>>342235081
I'm almost willing to not play comp until at least a month after it comes out because it will be quick play but only with retard fuckwads not understanding how to hero counter and being confused why everyone wants them to get off of mei when we're pushing a fucking payload
Why does zenyatta need buffs? His damage is real good and his healing is alright.
Also his ult is way more reliable than mercy.
>>342235390
Winston is already amazing, If he got buffed even slightly I don't think I would want to play anyone else. Only thing I can think they could even buff without outright breaking the game would be his Ult damage slightly, or maybe how much his barrier can absorb.
Either Lucio is unbalanced or I am playing against retards.
>>342232670
They to neef or redobhalf of thevcasts ult and habilities, some ults just do way to much damage or are way too much of an annoyance. It is like they justade most ults becausebthey lookes cool.
>>342235275
Yeah that's fine but I mean like people who will exclusively play 1 character and will usually moan if someone else picks them or they get called out for it when it's not helping
For example
>I see in global chat "anyone wanna party up for the xp?"
>okay, invited them to party with like 5 of us
>"you guys are lucky, I'm the 3rd ranked Mercy in the world"
>uhhh ok
>1 minute into match they ragequit after dying once and seeing the enemy team's levels
>I swap to Lucio since no support
>we win anyway
>find out afterwards they are only ranked 3rd for time played
>ranked 20k for score per minute
I mean, plus the playerbase is shit anyway but still
>>342235628
I would increase the damage his ult does and reduce the cooldown on the shield by a couple seconds.
>>342234563
what if you main a specific hero and you can't play other heroes as well
>>342233286
Anyone who thinks Mei needs a nerf is bad at the game. She is an annoyance but nothing more. Once ranked is released she will be on the bottom of the pick list.
>>342235698
jesus christ are your fingers the size of bananas or something
Nerf my waifuTracer
Delete Toblerone or at least make his turret die when he dies.
>>342236054
Make it downgrade by a level, if it's level 1, then it gets destroyed
>>342235761
>"you guys are lucky, I'm the 3rd ranked Mercy in the world"
Ah, he was 'that guy' huh?
literally "My dad works for nintendo"-tier bullshit.
Give me tips for playing reinhardt
It was so satisfying to glide into a roadhog, stun him, and smash his face in with a rocket hammer
Mei's ice wall shouldn't cooldown while its up
Maybe make the freeze a root for her regular gun and a full freeze for just her ult?
I fell for the hype lads
give me back my money
Buff D.Va
>Remove crit box
Its in the middle of her body, shrinking it still wont help, aiming for the crit box is a risk/reward system. When aiming at D.Va its always reward
>Revive her in her Mech when ULTed by Mercy
This one makes no sense. Why is she not revived in her mech by Mercy? Everyone else rezed at full health, D.Va rezed at 150 with no cooldowns.. Ok GG
>Increase Damage or shrink bullet spread
or
>Increase moving speed when firing
Either of these would be fine.
>>342236293
Had a question about Mei, is her spray more effective at close range than long or does it not matter? Sometimes it seems like she can freeze me even if I'm 10-20 feet away from her.
>>342235637
Do you play Lucio in stacks a lot?
>>342232670
Only put Tracer's dash on cooldown when all three charges are used. So 9 seconds cooldown to gain all 3 charges back.
>>342236054
>>342236154
Consolejejs detected
>>342232818
You are correct, fellow member of /v/
>>342236169
Save ult for chokepoints when 3+ people come charging in.
Charge to either take down a high priority target or get 2 birds with 1 stone, don't just go for a random hanzo.
Don't use fire strike unless you're alone and there's no one to protect.
Keep shield up 95% of the time and make sure to babysit people but don't over extend if some retard decides to start spirllrintimg ahead of you.
>>342232670
i play mei because she's cute
>>342235637
He's very good. Are you playing with pubs or as a premade?
>>342235447
Soldier 76 is pretty damn versatile anon.
>>342236054
Fuck you faggot fite me. Not even a Toblerone main, he's easily countered if you aren't braindead.
>>342236556
Sprinting*
ITT: You realize that Blizzard is a far less retarded developer than anyone on /v/ would ever be
>>342235637
What website is that
Genji
>increase damage(+25) on his dash strike
OR
>decrease cooldown
Regularly 2nd frag with 4k+ damage due to reflect, rip sentries and bastions
>>342236556
this is good rein advice. a good rein is extremely valuable to the team but if they're braindead and don't actually try to shoot from behind the cover of your shield it's pointless to tank for them.
landing a good charge/ult/firestrike to break a push is so fucking satisfying.
>"my main is Genji"
>>342236606
>dat damage
What kind of retards were letting lucio kick them around
>>342236868
>"I main Junkrat"
>>342236742
Wow, +4k damage? What's your secret, senpai?
I main tracer, she seems pretty balanced.
>Give Zenyatta more hp or faster movement speed
>spread bastions bullets mroe and reduce firerate during turret stance
>nerf Torbjörns armor gain during ult
Fix your fucking netcode and remove favour of the shooter system. Who would've thought having 300ms is now an advantage. Doesn't matter how many times I blink as Tracer, a russian Hanzo with a hamsterwheel as router and 500ms will forever snipe me due to him lagging.
Fuck you cunts who plays competitive games even though you know you have a bad connection.
>>342236169
When your whole team is behind your shield do not charge off and leave them all to get boned
God that was a shit match
make every character need to actually hit their attacks or no dice. i.e
>reindhart doesnt get a 270 degree aircleave on his hammer. it either hits directly or doesnt
>hanzo needs to hit his shots
>mei needs to actually land her ice
>mcrees flashbang needs to be a direct hit
ults that you can press Q for, then literally destroy your keyboard and still get a team kill completely removed
>reaper le die die die crawling in my skin aspiring schoolshoter ult
>mcreasy high noon
>torn molten core with a turret
hero stacking removed in all public modes
misc:
>torb turrets require scrap to build every time, and the turrets are made projectile, not hitscan.
>mei/reaper cant contest while invulnerable
>meis ice spray doesnt do any damage. freezing you solid is bad enough let alone the 100+ damage it deals on top
>reaper only gets 6 shots with his already loaded kit
>mercy ult charges slower
>pharah cant kill herself off splash from directly hitting an enemy
>reindhart actually needs to hit you with his charge, not the whole 'lol i clipped a single pixel you lose 300hp'
>20 tick servers drastically improved
>roadhog hook need to hit, and becomes projectile based.
inb4 i criticized your main and you get buttblasted. entire cast can be tweaked for all i care, i dont main anyone.
Mei and Junkrat need to be nerfed. There's no reason Pharah should hurt herself from rocket jumps, but Junkrat doesn't, or that Pharah has splash damage fall-off, but Junkrat doesn't.
Mei being able to just nope out of a fight for 5 seconds and fully heal herself is just overpowered. The icicle should be able to be destroyed with enough damage.
>>342236916
It was probably a team using double roadhog or something silly thing like that. I try to murder while I support.
>>342236868
>>342236984
>i main
Anyone with 0 seconds objective time at the end of the match gets locked out at the menu for 30 minutes. cumulative as well, 2nd offense is 1 hour etc.
>>342237026
E and q
>>342235847
Not nerfed, just removed.
>>342237093
I agree with all of that desu senpai.
>>342236528
Turret gameplay is cancer on any kind of gaming platform. I came to play an FPS, not a city builder.
Also, console wars are a shit meme, fuck you.
>>342237239
Some character like widow are meant to lock down the objective from afar.
>>342237093
>>roadhog hook need to hit, and becomes projectile based.
It is projectile based. Learn the fucking game before you comment.
>>342237197
>dark souls has multiple daily threads since DS1
>this is okay
>new release game has multiple daily threads
>this is not okay
>>342237239
1 hour + added objective time of your team mates
>all these people talking about "mains"
Wtf. I like junkrat and S76 but checking my most played widowmaker seems to be played more than them.
I don't actually like widowmaker but it sure as hell doesn't feel like I've spent hours on her and it was always satisfying/fun and never felt like a chore.
Also the winrate on her is higher because its always a fill spot for balanced teams.
>>342234009
>no winston
you are not a true tank player
>>342237093
All of this is pretty spot on desu
Especially hero stacking, if they allow that in ranked play I'm done with the game
Mei:
>Reduce headshot damage
>Reduce the slowing effect of her gun so it slows at a less extreme rate. If touched i should still be able to have a chance to escape.
Bastion:
> increase spread on gattling at longer ranges
Mccree
>increase stun by .1 second
76
>increase damage by a point or two
Torb
>reduce turret sight range
>reduce turret level 3 hp
Mercy:
>lower ult charge rate
Roadhog
>lower chain range
>have chain pull people directly in front of him every time
Lucio
>i dont know but he needs a nerf somehow.
I play Junkrat.
I think Torb's turret should be slightly nerfed, like a second of delay for its auto-lock on.
Also, the damage for all hit-scan weapons should be lowered.
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>>342236487
As long as it touches you, you are slowed. Which makes it very easy to finish freezing. Honestly its already easy enough to keep the beam on someone for 2 seconds without the slow
Nerf toblerone. That's all
>>342235918
Just came back from a surgery and im without my glasses.
>>342232670
How do we get rid of this Overwatch cancer that's taking over /v/?
Way too many threads about this crap.
>>342234009
>no lesbian
But she is the best tank
Shield and energy for DAYS
>>342237321
nope. its hybrid you troglodyte shitter. the comes after the hitscan, if they are in your reticle when you click it, thats game over, the hook comes after, hence why a sneaky genji can still swift slash away in the time between click and animation and conversely get hooked behind 30 feet of wall.
and why the spark shows up on the wall the instant you hook before the animation even plays out.
>>342237513
maybe stop bumping them and get back to your autistic underage visual novel
>>342237575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jSeVvgNZU&feature=youtu.be
>>342237349
perfect.
double penalty if you're playing sniper.
>>342237310
irrelevant, if a zen or tracer on 150 hp (zen without the movement ability to boot) can contest objective when needed, a widow can jump in hook out for 1 second.
too may snipers simply stay back for kills and ive lost count of the overtimes ive lost because hanzo/widow are 1 cunthair away from the point but refuse to contest. ive also lost count of how many enemy teams weve clutched in a comeback overtime for the same reason
>>342232670
they have GOT to bring winton's shield more up to par with reinhardts. There is almost no reason to play winston since reinhardt has a way better shield, does way more damage, and has a more versatile kit.
>>342237575
It's practically hitscan if you stand <50cm away from each other but you have to lead a fair amount if your target has any momentum at all perpendicular to the hook direction and is not face to face with you
>>342237529
>I can't fly there unless you show yourself
Goddamn I wish people realized this.
>>342235390
yeah, he needs it. roadhog and reinhardt are just plain better then him sadly
>>342235549
he has no health and no movement abilities
and his healing is not alright, its pretty bad. Hes much more like an offense character except for his ult. his damage is great, however
>>342237726
I took the liberty of downloading your video and screenshotting the first frame the ability turns orange. notice where your hitscan crosshair is?
the bot guns dont take damage and conversely cant get hooked. look for yourself
>>342237529
Accurate along with damage boosting someone who can't aim for shit.
Blizzard should really show stats so you can see who's actually doing their job so a Mercy can support them.
>>342238119
Roadhog and Reinhardt are not better than Winston at flying over and bitch-slapping Widowmakers and Hanzos off their perches. That's his whole thing.
He's a disruption tank, not a "everyone get behind me and I'll be a meatshield for you" tank.
>>342238274
He was farther forward on the first hook and he landed it retard. Just go to bed
>>342232670
Playing DVa, trashmammal, lucio, Roadhog, Winston, pharah
Nerf people bitching about nerfs and learn the game.
>20 hours with dva
She's fine, if she gets buffed, I just get better.
>>342232670
REALLY OP ANOTHER ONE? OW HAS LIKE 100 DAILY THREADS ABOUT THE SAME FUCKING TOPIC, NOTHING NEW AND THIS GAME SUCKS
>>342238429
Thats just broken as shit hitboxes
both shots missed entirely. one just missed by a whole lot more so it awarded it anyway. kind of like a mcreeasy flashbang.
>>342238548
I'm with you.
I get 30+ eliminations with D.Va and have no idea why people want to buff her.
>>342238735
>30+ eliminations with D.Va
Is that supposed to be impressive?
>Buff
Zenyatta
D.Va
Reaper's Teleport (Bit too long of a CD to be a true infiltration class)
Lucio (Weapon does piss-poor damage, but I kinda think it should have a pretty beastly headshot crit modifier so it can at least do around Mercy Pistol damage if you can aim them right. "Lore" can be that focused soundwaves right at your skull ruptures your eardrums something fierce.)
>Nerf
Widowmaker (Again)
Hanzo
Hitboxes in general
Mei
>>342238429
Fine, in that case ill change what i originally said, Roadhogs hook actually needs to hit you.
> You
> Hook someone as Roadhog, shoot them in the face
> They don't die and run away
> Them
> Hook, line, sinker.
> You
> Use Reinhardt's ult
> Enemy isn't affected because they're standing on fucking stairs
> Them
> Knock you on your stupid ass from miles away
>>342238735
I only dabble in dva and i dont really know what people are expecting from her. Shes fine. She isnt the best but she isnt trash.
Mercy Ult needs a major major reworking. Entire co-ordinated pushes can be shut down because the Mercy stood behind a box power boosting a Hanzo. The Mercy does not even need to come out into the open to Res her entire team back to full health.
It needs to be LoS and it needs to work like High Noon, the longer you channel the Res the more health the Res'd characters come back with.
Something needs to happen even if its just a increase in the time taken to build it, because right now its entirely possible to have the ability to bring back an entire team on the first fucking engagement.
Its a punishment for the team that did enough to wipe the opposing one, the losing team lost that fight by either being out of place, flanked or by bunching up and getting Ult'd. Either way having that loss mean fucking nothing because I Mercy brought everyone back through the floor because you focused her down first is both depressing and off-putting.
>>342238808
If that's his average, then yes because that is leagues above "pro" players. But it probably isn't and he's probably gotten it only a few times.
>>342232670
>playing overwatch for more than ~20 levels
>>342238881
You gotta Hook, Punch, THEN shoot as Highway Porcine.
I've come to accept that there's absolutely no point in abandoning games because sooner or later the matchmaking will still put you with literal retards.
>>342238857
Reaper doesnt need any extra anything
he gets 8 shots of absolute fuckoff huge damage, with very little aiming required
His ult doesnt even require player input whatsoever, its literally one of the few legitimate press Q for free team kill ults.
he gets health for killing enemies, can contest points, run like a bitch or pick up healthpacks while invul. has 250 health, and gets a literally *teleports behind you* ability.
and contrary to that one reapermain, his gun does decent damage 'outside of dicksucking range' 8 shots is more than enough to kill any non 300hp class who is backpedaling 10m+ away from you.
>>342232670
>>342238934
It just needs LoS and a short cast time, because right now you can kill her within a nanosecond of her pressing Q and it'll still go off.
>>342239053
>caring about these fucking boxes
I'll never understand this
>>342232950
but her ult charges so fucking fast anyway
>>342233286
delete is the only option
>legendary pirate skin and 2 intros for roadhog
>barely play him
>legendary nomad skin for genji
>never play him
not long until i can buy valkyrie skin for mercy, first legendary i will actually use
>>342238857
>buffing lucio
>buffing a character that's core on every competitive team regardless of mode
ok
>>342239541
Gives him something to do besides pressing WSAD and waiting for someone to linger too close to a cliff.
>>342239204
It used to have a cast time in the beta and I think thats the reason why it can go through walls. I think it used to force the Mercy to do the animation to the end before the team would be brought back, meaning she would fly out into a sea of bodies like a retard and instantly get shot full of holes.
So they made it go through walls so that she could hide and do it. Then they made it go off instantly right at the start of the animation and even murdering her right there would not stop it or effect the full health.
>>342238808
I'm not saying it to impress anyone, all I'm saying is she isn't as bad as people make her out to be at all
>>342239005
My average is like 13 something, If only every game I played was Reaper on KotH
After McCree nerf, how would be the"""""""""""""""competitive"""""""""""""" meta currently?
>>342232950
I see no reason to have her as a support, she fits more into a defense character because her shields are pretty much useless. This would also stop retards from choosing symmetra when it says "no support".
>>342232757
Roadhog hook hitbox needs a nerf.
>>342239659
Then have the initial rez bring people back with 25% of their HP, and then regenerate HP throughout the duration of the glowing animation invuln period. If Mercy is killed before that's all said and done, the healing halts right then and there.
>>342239384
>spending your coins on legendaries
You are supposed to buy a bunch of cheap shit so you get more money from dupes when you open a new crate
>>342239541
>>342239610
I would take a nerf to healing in order to actually kill people. I can kill people right now but its a massive fucking chore and more often than not its just easier to piss off somewhere else for awhile.
>>342232670
Mei needs a nerf, everything else is fine
>>342237529
>It tickles
>No, it's not!!
That whole exchange sounds so freaking wierd, shouldn't it be "No, it does not", isn't 'it tickles' an intransitive verb
>>342239876
>>342232670
FIX ROADHOG'S HOOK HITBOX
>>342239876
That's actually a really good idea.
>>342239785
Agreed. I'm sick of get hooked through fucking walls.
>mfw
>>342232670
Buff mccree again they nerfed him too hard because the shitters cried so loud.
>hero is designed to win 1on1 duels
>cant even kill roadhog or zaria in 1on1 duels
I mostly play Lucio.
Zen:
-Just give the poor fucker 200HP
-Shrink his hitbox
-Very slightly bump his harmony orb healing
Symettra
-Make her E more interesting or give her more shit in her kit. Like I dunno, maybe make the portal a healing station too so it has a fucking purpose on final defense points or more offensively.
-If not, remove her classification as a support.
Widow:
-Add some screenshake when she's being shot.
-Decrease CD on her hook by 2-3 seconds.
McCree:
-Increase flashbang stun time by something like 0.2-0.3 seconds to allow for a third Fan The Hammer bullet to hit Genjis and Tracers before it wears off. The whole point of McCree was to kill annoying fucking flankers. It's good they nerfed fan the hammer so he couldn't just dust tanks in 2 seconds but Tracers and Genjis can get away now unless you can left click on their tiny heads really fast. I want shitters to be able to kill genjis and tracers as McCree, for my sanity.
Mercy:
-Increase her walk speed
-Very slightly reduce her leash CD
-Bump the time it takes to charge her ult by 25%. It's just fucking silly right now.
Alternatively
-Fix the bug where she gets tons of charge time boosting people who're shooting Reiny/Winston shields
Genji:
-Get rid of his animation cancelling.
Soldier 76:
-Make his helix rockets more visible/visually impactful.
>>342240293
He's supposed to kill squishies in 1-on-1 duels, not fucking tanks.
>>342239876
thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard
>spending 300 coins on dumb shit you never use so you can earn 5 coins back on the off chance it pops up again
>>342239785
A lot wallhooks are because of the shitty netcode and asinine "favor the shooter" 300ms interp bullshit.
>>342240293
Hes meant to be a direct deterrent to flanking fast moving characters like Tracer and Genji, hes meant to stick with the tank and healer and protect their blindsides not roam around the fucking level murdering everyone in duels.
>>342240484
Well right now he cant even kill mei or reaper properly.
You need the whole fan the hammer to kill 250 hp targets. And mei or reaper can always go invincible on reaction before the last bullet hits.
So he cant even kill half of the cast with his combo anymore anymore.
>>342232670
i'm playing roadhog because he's a fucking beast
>hook
>600 hp
>self heal
>op close range damage
>mediocre mid range damage
so, tell me why you aren't playing roadhog
>>342240350
They already fixed the Mercy bug, her ult still charges at a fucking retarded speed.
>>342235447
Soldier 76, Pharah, Reinhardt, Zarya, Mercy, Lucio
>>342240726
>I enjoy feeding the enemy team ult meter
no thanks friendo
>>342240714
If they have to run away then hes doing his job.
>>342240714
>You need the whole fan the hammer to kill 250 hp targets.
You get two FTHs though, so what's your point?
>>342238735
30+ Elims with her is good, anon, don't let these shitters try to tell you that you don't know how to play her
>>342238808
Yeah it means he's tanking with her properly, she racks up the damage and on-point Elims better than anyone barring lucio.
And before anyone gives me shit
>Elims with lucio
Yeah he's the best point guard in the game when you stack him with a tank.
>>342240350
>ult nerf on mercy
No, right now lucio is better then mercy in every way barring her ult.
Lucio passively heals 25hp/s in a giant aura.
If you heal one other person you are already healing the same amount mercy can, while still having the ability to fire, and he has great mobility.
Your E bumps it to 120hp/s for 3 seconds. Without the revive ult, mercy is subpar to lucio
>get a quintuple kill with Rein
>wait until the end of the game assuming it's gonna be POTG
>it is, so try recording it with shadowplay
>nothing happens
>go to highlights, try again
>nothing
And then it was lost to memory.
>>342240969
But they go invincible in between those 2 and are moving away or healed up or managed to get into midrange now.
The second fan the hammer does jackshit in those situations.
>>342240726
Its boring as fuck. You get to murder someone everytime hook comes off cooldown and aside from that do nothing else.
Its excrutiatingly boring in comparison to every other tank, no movement abilities, no challenging mechanics to master nothing. Its just Hook M1 Melee, Repeat Hook M1 Melee Repeat.
That theres a Hog in every single last pub game depresses the shit out of me.
>>342234563
what if I just want to play one hero?
>>342241073
Her ult charges way too fast. I think she's the superior defensive healer if you ask me- I typically switch from Lucio to her on push maps as defense if we get pushed back past the first 1-2 points.
I'm not talking doubling it, but man 20% or something it takes very little to get it activated.
>>342241073
So increase her single target healing, fuck I don't care that it makes her worse than Lucio, Zen is worse than Lucio and no one fucking cares the Ult is outright broken to the level of not even needing to think about tossing it out or not because it comes back so fucking fast.
>>342241212
So you're saying that McCree should just be able to instantly nuke every hero in the game?
He's good at killing some heroes, and not so good at killing others, as it should be.
>>342241396
Zenyatta fits a different niche. Unlike Lucio and Mercy hes capable of dealing real damage, with just a side bit of healing.
>>342241212
So fucking aim and Left Click you complete shitter. Its your primary attack for a fucking reason.
>>342232670
Why is this game so bad for everyone on the attacking side?
>>342241212
Yeah, congrats you just took a player out the fight and one of their useful abilities on cooldown. With decent composition and co-ordination with a proper team you can sic a more mobile class/sniper on them to clean up no problem. The game isn't just a out what you do and achieve solo, that's why it's team based fucko
hanzo needs hitbox nerf
d.va needs buff
>>342240350
Close range Mcree does 215 damage with Flashbang, lmb headshot and melee. That's more than enough to deal with Tracer or Genji getting close.
>>342241073
>Lucio passively heals 25hp/s in a giant aura.
12hp/second actually. And amp it up is 40hp/second. Where are you getting your info?
>>342240350
pls no buff for Zen, he'd turn OP really fast
Winston needs a serious buff or even a moveset overhaul.
His electric gun does absolutely pitiful damage compared to other tanks, his jumps and ult melee are all easily telegraphed and locked down. And his immobile shield is just about the only useful thing he has.
>>342232670
I think that all characters are fine. I can't wait for people to call the next character OP.
I've been playing mobile bastion attack and defense. People think I'm just fucking around. Run away turret up and watch them come to their death.
>>342241547
So why directly compare Lucio and Mercy then? The Ults and healing are for two different uses, Mercy also has the damage boost which is great for defending teams. Lucio is amazing for breaking holds and initiating pushes and surviving Ult spam on reaction.
Saying that this broken thing should be left in the game because theres another hero performing the same role but better is stupid.
>Now traveling to Lijiang Tower
>You're a Tracer main
>>342242026
If you wanna see pitiful damage look at Dva.
Her chainshotguns maybe chip someone's tooth at point-blank range.
>>342242027
>tracer tries to flank
>just turn recon mode and melt her away
I love his recon rifle, it's so good
>>342242026
I would make the shield a little stronger and make the jump have a larger area of effect on enemies. A wall climbing ability would also work pretty well.
Dva definitely needs a buff.
Her ult is too easy to dodge, and broadcasts itself too much, just step behind anything and the blast does nothing. Reins shield takes absolutely no damage from it. It's probably the worse ult in the game.
Make more stealthy.
Also, right now she seems to have an identity crises. She's a tank but her blocking capabilities aren't that great. She has great mobility, but playing her offensively doesn't work either. She's too squishy for a tank, she gets rekt too easily for being a tank.
So either,
Increase her damage or Narrow her spread or Change the shield to be more like reinharts or give her more health Or make her hit box not so ridiculously huge.
>>342242308
They can headshot, aim a bit better and the damage starts racking up. They do fucking nothing outside of point blank range and most of the other classes can simply move faster than the D.va while shes firing. That and they get no screenshake or aim penelty so they can just scoot away and blast the shit out of her massive crit box.
>>342241907
gamepedia
Which as of june 9 revision listed these.
They are different now, not sure when that changed or what that change was
>>342240350
>Mercy ult charges every second just from holding right click.
>Wants to make it charge faster.
>>342242498
I'm not saying you're not right, but i dont think we've seen at all what she is capable for a team with proper coordination
Her soak is absolutely fucking bonkers if you time it with your team. You can absolutely shit on a bastion/tor soaking up his shit while your team comes from behind.
But yeah, she is garbage at the moment
>>342242707
Per THREE seconds brosef. That's 40hp a second on amp.
>>342242864
fuck,
my fault then.
>>342242784
You misunderstood me, I meant make it charge 25% slower.
It's just fucking silly right now.
>>342242923
Not your fault. I have no idea why they're measuring it in blocks of 2/3 seconds instead of just per-second and letting everyone do the very basic math in their heads.
>>342242498
Her Ult is not for killing people its the same idea as Winstons and Roadhogs and to a degree Hanzo. Its for directly moving people away from an area or clearing out a control point.
>now traveling to Numbani
>>342237529
>that junkrat
>it's a "someone locks genji/hanzo/reaper/widownmaker/dva and doesn't switch the entire game, even if we lose or a support/tank leaves" episode
>>342242498
They already said they're going to buff her
>have the deflection shield heal her based on damage absorbed
>reduce the detonation time on the ult by a second or two so more than one person can actually fucking die to it before hiding around a corner
just some ideas
>>342243002
Yeah it is. I don't know how much of an impact it would have since most people just hold it for 3+ rez right now anyway
>>342232670
McCree needs a rework on his nerf because I've never been killed by a single McCree at any range since the nerf unless the person playing him has aimbot tier headshot aim, at which point he'd be better off playing Soldier 76 anyway for more dps and damage potential per magazine. Putting FtH on a cooldown, removing his reload on roll, and reducing FtH shot damage to 60 would have been fine.
Now that a mediocre Widowmaker can't instantly delete Zenyatta I think his health is fine, but a little work on his orbs would be nice, like removing the indicator of where the discord orb is at but make it stay on targets for longer. Also either slightly up the healing rate of harmony or make it stick to allies even without line of sight.
D.Va still needs something to give people an incentive to pick her over Winston other than waifu bait.
Widowmaker could still use a longer charge time and longer time between shots, and her hook should go on a 1/2 seconds cooldown if she's receiving damage so she can't easily escape from everybody that isn't Winston, that way she can't escape if somebody catches her, and will have to use her mine to know someone's coming and preemptively hook to another spot before she's caught, not after.
Symmetra needs some kind of change to her shields, because 25 really is barely anything. Maybe bump that up to 50 or let her shield less teammates but for more shield health instead.
Hard to think of any other changes that wouldn't make characters either too strong or too weak, especially since there are lots of characters that need some work put into them to become useful in top play like Mei, Bastion, Junkrat, and Torbjorn, but changing even a small thing about them can make them too strong with the way their skills and guns work.
>>342243412
I agree snipers are disposable when guarding point B or on the last stretch.
And D.va is just trash.
But a reaper is always good, what's your problem?
>>342243749
reaper is shit unless you're on koth or defending against someone attacking with more than 2 tanks
>ctrl+f "junkrat"
>only like four people play him
junkrat is one of the most versatile and satisfying characters in the whole game. mobility, dps, area denial, even killing flankers with steel traps. in a vacuum, junkrat can win head on vs any character.
>>342243842
The problem I have with Junkrat is that I start to panic once the defense breaks and the enemies start pouring in
>>342243842
He's good, but I find his bouncy, floaty grenades awkward and unsatisfying to use. Especially since I used to play demoman a lot.
It feels like playing Demo on a low gravity server in slow motion.
>>342238093
>Tracer: I need healing!
>Tracer: I need healing!
>Tracer: I need healing!
>Tracer: I need healing! - low health
>always behind a fucking wall or overextended and far away from everyone
>>342242798
It's easier when coordinated that's for sure. Her boost is extremely effective at chasing and flanking. But I notice that once she starts shooting it just doesn't work out, the damage output just isn't enough/focused. you end up really needing to surprise the enemy. Which is harder if both teams are communicating effectively.
>>342243828
Educate me then
What's a better flanker for when the whole enemy team is focused on a chokepoint?
Tracer?
Mie?
They can't move between doorways with no chance of being seen in the open. And their ults don't cover nearly as much space.
>>342234146
>Reduce Reapers HP by 50. Then give it to Pharah.
With Reaper's health regen I feel like this is completely fair. Though you have to be up close to deal any damage as Reaper so the extra health is warranted. Why not give Pharah shields or armor or something?
>>342242498
>hear nerf this
>hide behind a cardboard box two feet away
>safe from the explosion
>>342244150
>What's a better flanker for when the whole enemy team is focused on a chokepoint?
It'd be stupid to play a flanker while attacking a single choke in the first place, you should be playing something to help push with, but yes, Tracer can cover much more ground than reaper and isn't slow and predictable. Mei isn't even a flanker.
>>342243842
Most of Junkrat's gameplay involves sitting behind a chokepoint blindly spamming grenades to hold a position. Don't get me wrong, he's effective at what he does, but there's not a whole lot of interesting things to master with the hero.
He's essentially a more watered down, less versatile, lower skill ceiling Demoman.
>>342235698
>neef or redobhalf of thevcasts ult and habilities
i agree man i agree
>>342243225
The difference is that both their ults are objectively better. Winston has increased survivability and damage, roadhog can ult just plain blows people away/push back. Dva's is easy to see coming giving everybody with half a brain a chance to dodge (especially on maps with lots of things to hide behind). People might move out of the way, but at the end of the day it's just not good
>>342244325
When we've already got a sniper, support, tank, pharah, it only makes sense to get someone who can flank.
Also I find reaper's disengage way more reliable than tracer. He can make a beeline right into team mates. Tracer has to recall and go back the way she came.
>>342232670
let mercy dual wield healing sticks, no buff i just wannit
>>342243842
I can't play Junkrat. I burned out on him in one of the beta weekends. He is a top 5 character though. Only loses to reaper hard.
>>342243496
The first idea is good, I just don't think it's enough of a buff. The shield still has a high cool down, and it doesn't address that shit spread she has.
>>342232670
they only need to nerf Mei to NOT be annoying.
that is all
>>342244796
mei's character is based around being annoying
>>342244697
Junkrat's trap holds for far too long. I know the mentally challenged can have a tough time hitting moving targets with a grenade launcher, but Blizzard should give them a little more credit than that. At least let us shoot it off of our feet.
>>342244026
i played a lot of demo in TF2 as well, you just have to get in a different mindset with junkrat. i don't find the grenades to be too annoying to use, especially cause every character is slower overall anyway in OW.
>>342244403
that's not true at all, you can play junkrat aggressively and well. if you've seen a good junkrat, they don't sit behind a wall and lob grenades. junkrat destroys squishys, and can destroy tanks as well if you're aggressive with him.
the only problem is he gets countered pretty hard by pharah, and that's when you need your team. pharah keeps aggressive junk in check.
>>342232670
I don't play d.va but I think she needs to be buffed. Every waifufag i've played with that insists on playing her keeps bringing the team down.
Do I suck or something? I get a lot of people complimenting me, but it feels like I spend the majority of my games surrounded by retards.
>>342244768
he loses to pharah way harder than reaper, but yeah reaper is another counter i didn't consider. not as bad though.
>>342244921
>walking in a back path with a junkrat on the other team and not looking for traps
you deserved it
>>342244026
you gotta take advantage of their bounciness and bank them off of walls and shit while you hide behind cover
Also you can use his mine as a jump and air drop mines and a bear trap on them, it's hilarious
He's just so fucking fun, I can't believe I've been using reinhardt instead of him for so long
>>342232670
>Attack
Pharah
Junkrat
Soldier
>Defend
Torbjörn
Symmetra
Junkrat
>Nerfed
Widowmaker already got a nerf so I don't have any major complaints
>Buffed
D.va is trash outside blitzing Hanamura
>>342245150
>back path
Some Junkrat's players throw the thing in completely random positions. It's my bad for not noticing, but why punish me that hard? I don't even think Mei's freeze lasts that long.
>>342233585
I get annoyed because every Mei player has garbage aim (why do you think they are playing the W+M1 class?) and takes like 4 solid seconds to line up a headshot
>>342238324
> doing great as Hanno
> as soon as a Mercy starts buffing me I choke and start missing
Guess I can't perform in the spotlight
Torbjorn can be a massive pain on consoles due to the shitty aiming. On tf2 i usually delt with turrets by sneaking around the corner and shooting the turret where you could see it while it couldn't. thats not possible in overwatch, the second you can see the turret it sees you, ive even been shot through the bloody geometry of the map, They should either reduce the lock on time or add damage fall off becasue right now on console the only way to destroy a turret easily with not many sacrifices is to play Widowmaker. Allthough torbjorn is easy to deal with on PC with the better aiming.
Remove hanamura
>>342237093
For the last time shitter Mei isn't strong. Neither is Torb and Roadhogs hook is already balanced, if anything more range on it would be nice. Do you work at Riot?
>>342245797
Hence why the games have separate balancing.
>>342245797
There's also cases where the turret won't shoot you until you start to shoot it. It's complete ass.
>>342245398
mei's freeze doesnt let you shoot back
>>342245797
I was trying to remember why TF2 sentries were less annoying despite being more powerful and I think that's it. Why the fuck don't those things have blindspots?
>>342245691
Just try playing Pharah and having one on the team, fuckers are glued to your ass permanently.
I never asked for you to follow me about slut go farm assists from someone else.
>>342237385
>Winston
>Tank
Everyone but Widow. I can't hit anyone for shit with her and always get picked off by genjis or other snipers real fast. I have no idea what's wrong with me, I aim fine with every other character, at this point I've just given up playing Widow.
>>342245691
>Successfully lead your shots as Pharah
>Mercy starts buffing you and you can't shoot for shit
>>342245927
>someone dares suggest a nerf for Mei
>OMG she's bottom tier fuck off nerd don't touch her!
The dude's got some actual wack suggestions like getting rid of Reaper's ultimate but you go for the jugular over him wanting to change your bae? Fuck outta here.
>Buff Widow dmg back to 150
>Raise Zen hp to 160
>Buff DVA
Everything else is fine
>>342245552
Sniping nigs across the map with Mei is funny as fuck, just thinking about the rage makes my wieny hard
>>342237103
because pharah has a jump ability that doesnt hurt her just like junkrat has a jump ability that doesnt hurt him
pharah has damage fall off because her projectiles are much easier to aim
Honestly everything is pretty good
Tracer could use some sort of adjustment, either cooldown increases on all her abilities or a sightly larger hurt box, same for genji.the recent nerfs made them both a lot better. To the point where they are flat out overwhelming if the player is good.
Does this game try to match you with people in
your region?
I swear I'm getting matched with people who have a huge ping difference and all my shots just miss.
>>342237529
>mercy I play with
>SHE DOESNT EVER FUCKING REALIZE I AM DAMAGED AND REFUSES TO HEAL ME UNLESS I WALK UP RIGHT INTO HER FACE
Fucking blind dumb slut.
>>342235637
A good Lucio has a huge effect on a close game
