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So what character are you playing? What do you think needs to be nerfed/buffed?
Reduce Reinhardt Swingspeed
Increase hitbox size for Genji and Tracer
Slow Reaper Firerate
Remove all Defense maps
Server Browser
Fix netcode
Buff zenyatta and DVA. Nobody needs nerfs.
>>342232670
I play Tracer and I think Tracer needs to be buffed to have more impact on the game instead of just being an annoyance.
>>342232670
game is fine as it is after the most recent nerf
anyone who says literally anything otherwise is retarded and is obviously either:
a. playing on a console so is irrelevant
b. top tier shitter
>>342232746
>Reduce Reinhardt Swingspeed
>>342232746
>>342232767
you're both fucking retarded
I play Symmetra any chance I get on defense, but she needs some work. I hate not being able to charge my ult when a portal is already on the field. Shield buff barely makes a difference.
>>342232818
Agreed
>>342232670
Buff D.va, I have no real problems with anyone else.
>>342232670
Nerf Reinhardt Shield and the charge rate of mercy ult
DELETE MEI
>>342233119
>t. Bastion player
>>342232767
ur shit tracer is fine
>constistently get gold medals
>always push, willing to play support
>have lost the last 8 games
>win 1 game
>proceed to lose another 5
Is this the forced 50% win rate applying itself?
>>342233286
I swear, when I get frozen by Mei all I can think about is watching that icicle coming out of the barrel. It's like the Aliens' second jaw. You just know death is coming.
>>342233342
Are you implying a bastion can't blow through a reinhardt shield?
>>342232670
I usually play Reinhardt unless no one is running a Mercy or Lucio. I've been trying to git gud with Zarya too. If the team is horseshit and not worth tanking for/healslutting I just go Soldier 76 and CoD it up. Also like playing Junkrat/Roadhog occasionally.
I think the game is pretty well balanced now. McREE isn't so annoying but doesn't seem ineffective. Shitters should just play the fucking game and adapt rather than whining about it online until one character or the other that annoys them is nerfed into the ground.
>>342233565
Yes. There's no other explanation other than the game purposely putting you on potato squads.
>>342233585
It's truly terrifying. That fucking smug cunt.I play Mei on control maps
Who /tank/ here?
>>342233565
Same thing happened to me.
I'll go support!
>Get pounded into the dirt
(Several deaths later, due to getting ganged up on or abandoned by my team) Alright then, I'll go tank!
>Get pounded into the dirt
(Several deaths later, due to getting ganged up on or abandoned by my team) Okay, I'll go defense
>Get pounded into the dirt
(Several deaths later, due to getting ganged up on or abandoned by my team) Fine, I'll go attack
>Get pounded into the dirt
I really sick of the matchmaking in this game.
Seven losses in a row. And the last one was Volskaya on defense which is supposed to be unimpregnable, assuming your teammates aren't syphilitic gibbons.I checked my stats just now: 51% win rate.
Raise Reinhardt's ult charge per sec when escorting or capturing or give more for blocking but not both.
Reduce Reapers HP by 50. Then give it to Pharah.
Give Winston's ult a secondary attack that does increased damage but at the cost of a higher cooldown and reduced knockback.
Increase Zenyattas HP by 25
Increase Bastions time to revert to recon mode by 1 second
Increase Bastions healing to gun mode to one second
Give Mei's Ice wall 400 HP per block
Games pretty balanced otherwise.
>when your mine hits just right and knocks off several people and a vengeful guy sneaks up you, steps in your trap and kills you as your martyrdom grenades kill him as well.
>>342234009
>No Zarya
GIT
U
D
>>342233585
>Lucio
>See this chink throw out her ultimate
>Speed my team up to get out
>Proceed to rek
It's even more satisfying pushing her away as she tries to kill another team mate.
weeks on from launch and people STILL don't seem to grasp that you're supposed to switch heroes to suit the situation. This is ridiculous. How is a concept this simple too much of a stretch for pubbies?
The idea of people who will main a character, even when they are the ones who clearly need to change (eg choosing last, need support but going fucking genjie) enrage me to no fucking end, so many faggots have no idea how to play team games
>>342234009
Reinhardt represent
I mainly play McCree on offense, Torb on defense, D.Va and Winston for Tanks, and Lucio for support
I also like Tracer, S76, and Zenyatta
>>342234563
Because you're playing a Blizzard game. The fanbase went from doing Mythic raids to feeding Zaryas and Bastions
>>342234563
>The majority of the people you share this planet with are borderline retarded: News at 11
>slightly increase McCree's damage or at least increase single shot hitbox
>reduce Hanzo's ult charge rate
>reduce Mercy's ult charge rate
>increase DVa ult charge rate
OR
>slightly increase DVa damage
>reduce movement speed of DVa when firing by only 25%
>remove healing on Ice Block
>give Zenyatta +25 health
>reduce armor given to Torb during Molten Core
Fucker is almost unkillable during his ult
>slightly increase Roadhog reload speed
OR
>increase Roadhog ammo capacity to 6 shots
>reduce cooldown on Helix Rockets by 2 seconds
That's all I got.
>>342234598
Seriously. Had a team that refused to change last night that just could not push the point to start the Payload on Numbani. I was only support, so switch to DVa with 30 secs left, make a solo push taking out sniper and turret, the rest of the mouthbreathers stop lobbing shots to finally march in and take point. Switch back to support and win game. Why is switching for a tactical use so hard for people?
Only scrubs main characters
And every one that I've seen has been dogshit/ragequitters
>>342234563
There are some heroes that work for every situation.
>>342234132
is this a pasta now?
>>342235175
I don't main, but I always have a 'starter' character that I pick. Always change when needed.
>>342235269
No, this happened just before but the thread I originally posted it in died and I'm still salty.
Buff Winston
>>342235206
no there aren't.
>>342235081
I'm almost willing to not play comp until at least a month after it comes out because it will be quick play but only with retard fuckwads not understanding how to hero counter and being confused why everyone wants them to get off of mei when we're pushing a fucking payload
Why does zenyatta need buffs? His damage is real good and his healing is alright.
Also his ult is way more reliable than mercy.
>>342235390
Winston is already amazing, If he got buffed even slightly I don't think I would want to play anyone else. Only thing I can think they could even buff without outright breaking the game would be his Ult damage slightly, or maybe how much his barrier can absorb.
Either Lucio is unbalanced or I am playing against retards.
>>342232670
They to neef or redobhalf of thevcasts ult and habilities, some ults just do way to much damage or are way too much of an annoyance. It is like they justade most ults becausebthey lookes cool.
>>342235275
Yeah that's fine but I mean like people who will exclusively play 1 character and will usually moan if someone else picks them or they get called out for it when it's not helping
For example
>I see in global chat "anyone wanna party up for the xp?"
>okay, invited them to party with like 5 of us
>"you guys are lucky, I'm the 3rd ranked Mercy in the world"
>uhhh ok
>1 minute into match they ragequit after dying once and seeing the enemy team's levels
>I swap to Lucio since no support
>we win anyway
>find out afterwards they are only ranked 3rd for time played
>ranked 20k for score per minute
I mean, plus the playerbase is shit anyway but still
>>342235628
I would increase the damage his ult does and reduce the cooldown on the shield by a couple seconds.
>>342234563
what if you main a specific hero and you can't play other heroes as well
>>342233286
Anyone who thinks Mei needs a nerf is bad at the game. She is an annoyance but nothing more. Once ranked is released she will be on the bottom of the pick list.
>>342235698
jesus christ are your fingers the size of bananas or something
Nerf my waifuTracer
Delete Toblerone or at least make his turret die when he dies.
>>342236054
Make it downgrade by a level, if it's level 1, then it gets destroyed
>>342235761
>"you guys are lucky, I'm the 3rd ranked Mercy in the world"
Ah, he was 'that guy' huh?
literally "My dad works for nintendo"-tier bullshit.
Give me tips for playing reinhardt
It was so satisfying to glide into a roadhog, stun him, and smash his face in with a rocket hammer
Mei's ice wall shouldn't cooldown while its up
Maybe make the freeze a root for her regular gun and a full freeze for just her ult?
I fell for the hype lads
give me back my money
Buff D.Va
>Remove crit box
Its in the middle of her body, shrinking it still wont help, aiming for the crit box is a risk/reward system. When aiming at D.Va its always reward
>Revive her in her Mech when ULTed by Mercy
This one makes no sense. Why is she not revived in her mech by Mercy? Everyone else rezed at full health, D.Va rezed at 150 with no cooldowns.. Ok GG
>Increase Damage or shrink bullet spread
or
>Increase moving speed when firing
Either of these would be fine.
>>342236293
Had a question about Mei, is her spray more effective at close range than long or does it not matter? Sometimes it seems like she can freeze me even if I'm 10-20 feet away from her.
>>342235637
Do you play Lucio in stacks a lot?
>>342232670
Only put Tracer's dash on cooldown when all three charges are used. So 9 seconds cooldown to gain all 3 charges back.
>>342236054
>>342236154
Consolejejs detected
>>342232818
You are correct, fellow member of /v/
>>342236169
Save ult for chokepoints when 3+ people come charging in.
Charge to either take down a high priority target or get 2 birds with 1 stone, don't just go for a random hanzo.
Don't use fire strike unless you're alone and there's no one to protect.
Keep shield up 95% of the time and make sure to babysit people but don't over extend if some retard decides to start spirllrintimg ahead of you.
>>342232670
i play mei because she's cute
>>342235637
He's very good. Are you playing with pubs or as a premade?
>>342235447
Soldier 76 is pretty damn versatile anon.
>>342236054
Fuck you faggot fite me. Not even a Toblerone main, he's easily countered if you aren't braindead.
>>342236556
Sprinting*
ITT: You realize that Blizzard is a far less retarded developer than anyone on /v/ would ever be
>>342235637
What website is that
Genji
>increase damage(+25) on his dash strike
OR
>decrease cooldown
Regularly 2nd frag with 4k+ damage due to reflect, rip sentries and bastions
>>342236556
this is good rein advice. a good rein is extremely valuable to the team but if they're braindead and don't actually try to shoot from behind the cover of your shield it's pointless to tank for them.
landing a good charge/ult/firestrike to break a push is so fucking satisfying.
>"my main is Genji"
>>342236606
>dat damage
What kind of retards were letting lucio kick them around
>>342236868
>"I main Junkrat"
>>342236742
Wow, +4k damage? What's your secret, senpai?
I main tracer, she seems pretty balanced.
>Give Zenyatta more hp or faster movement speed
>spread bastions bullets mroe and reduce firerate during turret stance
>nerf Torbjörns armor gain during ult
Fix your fucking netcode and remove favour of the shooter system. Who would've thought having 300ms is now an advantage. Doesn't matter how many times I blink as Tracer, a russian Hanzo with a hamsterwheel as router and 500ms will forever snipe me due to him lagging.
Fuck you cunts who plays competitive games even though you know you have a bad connection.
>>342236169
When your whole team is behind your shield do not charge off and leave them all to get boned
God that was a shit match
make every character need to actually hit their attacks or no dice. i.e
>reindhart doesnt get a 270 degree aircleave on his hammer. it either hits directly or doesnt
>hanzo needs to hit his shots
>mei needs to actually land her ice
>mcrees flashbang needs to be a direct hit
ults that you can press Q for, then literally destroy your keyboard and still get a team kill completely removed
>reaper le die die die crawling in my skin aspiring schoolshoter ult
>mcreasy high noon
>torn molten core with a turret
hero stacking removed in all public modes
misc:
>torb turrets require scrap to build every time, and the turrets are made projectile, not hitscan.
>mei/reaper cant contest while invulnerable
>meis ice spray doesnt do any damage. freezing you solid is bad enough let alone the 100+ damage it deals on top
>reaper only gets 6 shots with his already loaded kit
>mercy ult charges slower
>pharah cant kill herself off splash from directly hitting an enemy
>reindhart actually needs to hit you with his charge, not the whole 'lol i clipped a single pixel you lose 300hp'
>20 tick servers drastically improved
>roadhog hook need to hit, and becomes projectile based.
inb4 i criticized your main and you get buttblasted. entire cast can be tweaked for all i care, i dont main anyone.
Mei and Junkrat need to be nerfed. There's no reason Pharah should hurt herself from rocket jumps, but Junkrat doesn't, or that Pharah has splash damage fall-off, but Junkrat doesn't.
Mei being able to just nope out of a fight for 5 seconds and fully heal herself is just overpowered. The icicle should be able to be destroyed with enough damage.
>>342236916
It was probably a team using double roadhog or something silly thing like that. I try to murder while I support.
Anyone with 0 seconds objective time at the end of the match gets locked out at the menu for 30 minutes. cumulative as well, 2nd offense is 1 hour etc.
>>342237026
E and q
>>342235847
Not nerfed, just removed.
>>342237093
I agree with all of that desu senpai.
>>342236528
Turret gameplay is cancer on any kind of gaming platform. I came to play an FPS, not a city builder.
Also, console wars are a shit meme, fuck you.
>>342237239
Some character like widow are meant to lock down the objective from afar.
>>342237093
>>roadhog hook need to hit, and becomes projectile based.
It is projectile based. Learn the fucking game before you comment.
>>342237197
>dark souls has multiple daily threads since DS1
>this is okay
>new release game has multiple daily threads
>this is not okay
>>342237239
1 hour + added objective time of your team mates
>all these people talking about "mains"
Wtf. I like junkrat and S76 but checking my most played widowmaker seems to be played more than them.
I don't actually like widowmaker but it sure as hell doesn't feel like I've spent hours on her and it was always satisfying/fun and never felt like a chore.
Also the winrate on her is higher because its always a fill spot for balanced teams.
>>342234009
>no winston
you are not a true tank player
>>342237093
All of this is pretty spot on desu
Especially hero stacking, if they allow that in ranked play I'm done with the game
Mei:
>Reduce headshot damage
>Reduce the slowing effect of her gun so it slows at a less extreme rate. If touched i should still be able to have a chance to escape.
Bastion:
> increase spread on gattling at longer ranges
Mccree
>increase stun by .1 second
76
>increase damage by a point or two
Torb
>reduce turret sight range
>reduce turret level 3 hp
Mercy:
>lower ult charge rate
Roadhog
>lower chain range
>have chain pull people directly in front of him every time
Lucio
>i dont know but he needs a nerf somehow.
I play Junkrat.
I think Torb's turret should be slightly nerfed, like a second of delay for its auto-lock on.
Also, the damage for all hit-scan weapons should be lowered.
>>342236487
As long as it touches you, you are slowed. Which makes it very easy to finish freezing. Honestly its already easy enough to keep the beam on someone for 2 seconds without the slow
Nerf toblerone. That's all
>>342235918
Just came back from a surgery and im without my glasses.
>>342232670
How do we get rid of this Overwatch cancer that's taking over /v/?
Way too many threads about this crap.
>>342234009
>no lesbian
But she is the best tank
Shield and energy for DAYS
>>342237321
nope. its hybrid you troglodyte shitter. the comes after the hitscan, if they are in your reticle when you click it, thats game over, the hook comes after, hence why a sneaky genji can still swift slash away in the time between click and animation and conversely get hooked behind 30 feet of wall.
and why the spark shows up on the wall the instant you hook before the animation even plays out.
>>342237513
maybe stop bumping them and get back to your autistic underage visual novel
>>342237575
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5jSeVvgNZU&feature=youtu.be
>>342237349
perfect.
double penalty if you're playing sniper.
>>342237310
irrelevant, if a zen or tracer on 150 hp (zen without the movement ability to boot) can contest objective when needed, a widow can jump in hook out for 1 second.
too may snipers simply stay back for kills and ive lost count of the overtimes ive lost because hanzo/widow are 1 cunthair away from the point but refuse to contest. ive also lost count of how many enemy teams weve clutched in a comeback overtime for the same reason
>>342232670
they have GOT to bring winton's shield more up to par with reinhardts. There is almost no reason to play winston since reinhardt has a way better shield, does way more damage, and has a more versatile kit.
>>342237575
It's practically hitscan if you stand <50cm away from each other but you have to lead a fair amount if your target has any momentum at all perpendicular to the hook direction and is not face to face with you
>>342237529
>I can't fly there unless you show yourself
Goddamn I wish people realized this.
>>342235390
yeah, he needs it. roadhog and reinhardt are just plain better then him sadly
>>342235549
he has no health and no movement abilities
and his healing is not alright, its pretty bad. Hes much more like an offense character except for his ult. his damage is great, however
>>342237726
I took the liberty of downloading your video and screenshotting the first frame the ability turns orange. notice where your hitscan crosshair is?
the bot guns dont take damage and conversely cant get hooked. look for yourself
>>342237529
Accurate along with damage boosting someone who can't aim for shit.
Blizzard should really show stats so you can see who's actually doing their job so a Mercy can support them.
>>342238119
Roadhog and Reinhardt are not better than Winston at flying over and bitch-slapping Widowmakers and Hanzos off their perches. That's his whole thing.
He's a disruption tank, not a "everyone get behind me and I'll be a meatshield for you" tank.
>>342238274
He was farther forward on the first hook and he landed it retard. Just go to bed
>>342232670
Playing DVa, trashmammal, lucio, Roadhog, Winston, pharah
Nerf people bitching about nerfs and learn the game.
>20 hours with dva
She's fine, if she gets buffed, I just get better.
>>342232670
REALLY OP ANOTHER ONE? OW HAS LIKE 100 DAILY THREADS ABOUT THE SAME FUCKING TOPIC, NOTHING NEW AND THIS GAME SUCKS
>>342238429
Thats just broken as shit hitboxes
both shots missed entirely. one just missed by a whole lot more so it awarded it anyway. kind of like a mcreeasy flashbang.
>>342238548
I'm with you.
I get 30+ eliminations with D.Va and have no idea why people want to buff her.
>>342238735
>30+ eliminations with D.Va
Is that supposed to be impressive?
>Buff
Zenyatta
D.Va
Reaper's Teleport (Bit too long of a CD to be a true infiltration class)
Lucio (Weapon does piss-poor damage, but I kinda think it should have a pretty beastly headshot crit modifier so it can at least do around Mercy Pistol damage if you can aim them right. "Lore" can be that focused soundwaves right at your skull ruptures your eardrums something fierce.)
>Nerf
Widowmaker (Again)
Hanzo
Hitboxes in general
Mei
>>342238429
Fine, in that case ill change what i originally said, Roadhogs hook actually needs to hit you.
> You
> Hook someone as Roadhog, shoot them in the face
> They don't die and run away
> Them
> Hook, line, sinker.
> You
> Use Reinhardt's ult
> Enemy isn't affected because they're standing on fucking stairs
> Them
> Knock you on your stupid ass from miles away
>>342238735
I only dabble in dva and i dont really know what people are expecting from her. Shes fine. She isnt the best but she isnt trash.
Mercy Ult needs a major major reworking. Entire co-ordinated pushes can be shut down because the Mercy stood behind a box power boosting a Hanzo. The Mercy does not even need to come out into the open to Res her entire team back to full health.
It needs to be LoS and it needs to work like High Noon, the longer you channel the Res the more health the Res'd characters come back with.
Something needs to happen even if its just a increase in the time taken to build it, because right now its entirely possible to have the ability to bring back an entire team on the first fucking engagement.
Its a punishment for the team that did enough to wipe the opposing one, the losing team lost that fight by either being out of place, flanked or by bunching up and getting Ult'd. Either way having that loss mean fucking nothing because I Mercy brought everyone back through the floor because you focused her down first is both depressing and off-putting.
>>342238808
If that's his average, then yes because that is leagues above "pro" players. But it probably isn't and he's probably gotten it only a few times.
>>342232670
>playing overwatch for more than ~20 levels
>>342238881
You gotta Hook, Punch, THEN shoot as Highway Porcine.
I've come to accept that there's absolutely no point in abandoning games because sooner or later the matchmaking will still put you with literal retards.
>>342238857
Reaper doesnt need any extra anything
he gets 8 shots of absolute fuckoff huge damage, with very little aiming required
His ult doesnt even require player input whatsoever, its literally one of the few legitimate press Q for free team kill ults.
he gets health for killing enemies, can contest points, run like a bitch or pick up healthpacks while invul. has 250 health, and gets a literally *teleports behind you* ability.
and contrary to that one reapermain, his gun does decent damage 'outside of dicksucking range' 8 shots is more than enough to kill any non 300hp class who is backpedaling 10m+ away from you.
>>342238934
It just needs LoS and a short cast time, because right now you can kill her within a nanosecond of her pressing Q and it'll still go off.
>>342239053
>caring about these fucking boxes
I'll never understand this
>>342232950
but her ult charges so fucking fast anyway
>>342233286
delete is the only option
>legendary pirate skin and 2 intros for roadhog
>barely play him
>legendary nomad skin for genji
>never play him
not long until i can buy valkyrie skin for mercy, first legendary i will actually use
>>342238857
>buffing lucio
>buffing a character that's core on every competitive team regardless of mode
ok
>>342239541
Gives him something to do besides pressing WSAD and waiting for someone to linger too close to a cliff.
>>342239204
It used to have a cast time in the beta and I think thats the reason why it can go through walls. I think it used to force the Mercy to do the animation to the end before the team would be brought back, meaning she would fly out into a sea of bodies like a retard and instantly get shot full of holes.
So they made it go through walls so that she could hide and do it. Then they made it go off instantly right at the start of the animation and even murdering her right there would not stop it or effect the full health.
>>342238808
I'm not saying it to impress anyone, all I'm saying is she isn't as bad as people make her out to be at all
>>342239005
My average is like 13 something, If only every game I played was Reaper on KotH
After McCree nerf, how would be the"""""""""""""""competitive"""""""""""""" meta currently?
>>342232950
I see no reason to have her as a support, she fits more into a defense character because her shields are pretty much useless. This would also stop retards from choosing symmetra when it says "no support".
>>342232757
Roadhog hook hitbox needs a nerf.
>>342239659
Then have the initial rez bring people back with 25% of their HP, and then regenerate HP throughout the duration of the glowing animation invuln period. If Mercy is killed before that's all said and done, the healing halts right then and there.
>>342239384
>spending your coins on legendaries
You are supposed to buy a bunch of cheap shit so you get more money from dupes when you open a new crate
>>342239541
>>342239610
I would take a nerf to healing in order to actually kill people. I can kill people right now but its a massive fucking chore and more often than not its just easier to piss off somewhere else for awhile.
>>342232670
Mei needs a nerf, everything else is fine
>>342237529
>It tickles
>No, it's not!!
That whole exchange sounds so freaking wierd, shouldn't it be "No, it does not", isn't 'it tickles' an intransitive verb
>>342232670
FIX ROADHOG'S HOOK HITBOX
>>342239876
That's actually a really good idea.
>>342239785
Agreed. I'm sick of get hooked through fucking walls.
>mfw
>>342232670
Buff mccree again they nerfed him too hard because the shitters cried so loud.
>hero is designed to win 1on1 duels
>cant even kill roadhog or zaria in 1on1 duels
I mostly play Lucio.
Zen:
-Just give the poor fucker 200HP
-Shrink his hitbox
-Very slightly bump his harmony orb healing
Symettra
-Make her E more interesting or give her more shit in her kit. Like I dunno, maybe make the portal a healing station too so it has a fucking purpose on final defense points or more offensively.
-If not, remove her classification as a support.
Widow:
-Add some screenshake when she's being shot.
-Decrease CD on her hook by 2-3 seconds.
McCree:
-Increase flashbang stun time by something like 0.2-0.3 seconds to allow for a third Fan The Hammer bullet to hit Genjis and Tracers before it wears off. The whole point of McCree was to kill annoying fucking flankers. It's good they nerfed fan the hammer so he couldn't just dust tanks in 2 seconds but Tracers and Genjis can get away now unless you can left click on their tiny heads really fast. I want shitters to be able to kill genjis and tracers as McCree, for my sanity.
Mercy:
-Increase her walk speed
-Very slightly reduce her leash CD
-Bump the time it takes to charge her ult by 25%. It's just fucking silly right now.
Alternatively
-Fix the bug where she gets tons of charge time boosting people who're shooting Reiny/Winston shields
Genji:
-Get rid of his animation cancelling.
Soldier 76:
-Make his helix rockets more visible/visually impactful.
>>342240293
He's supposed to kill squishies in 1-on-1 duels, not fucking tanks.
>>342239876
thats the stupidest thing Ive ever heard
>spending 300 coins on dumb shit you never use so you can earn 5 coins back on the off chance it pops up again
>>342239785
A lot wallhooks are because of the shitty netcode and asinine "favor the shooter" 300ms interp bullshit.
>>342240293
Hes meant to be a direct deterrent to flanking fast moving characters like Tracer and Genji, hes meant to stick with the tank and healer and protect their blindsides not roam around the fucking level murdering everyone in duels.
>>342240484
Well right now he cant even kill mei or reaper properly.
You need the whole fan the hammer to kill 250 hp targets. And mei or reaper can always go invincible on reaction before the last bullet hits.
So he cant even kill half of the cast with his combo anymore anymore.
>>342232670
i'm playing roadhog because he's a fucking beast
>hook
>600 hp
>self heal
>op close range damage
>mediocre mid range damage
so, tell me why you aren't playing roadhog
>>342240350
They already fixed the Mercy bug, her ult still charges at a fucking retarded speed.
>>342235447
Soldier 76, Pharah, Reinhardt, Zarya, Mercy, Lucio
>>342240726
>I enjoy feeding the enemy team ult meter
no thanks friendo
>>342240714
If they have to run away then hes doing his job.
>>342240714
>You need the whole fan the hammer to kill 250 hp targets.
You get two FTHs though, so what's your point?
>>342238735
30+ Elims with her is good, anon, don't let these shitters try to tell you that you don't know how to play her
>>342238808
Yeah it means he's tanking with her properly, she racks up the damage and on-point Elims better than anyone barring lucio.
And before anyone gives me shit
>Elims with lucio
Yeah he's the best point guard in the game when you stack him with a tank.
>>342240350
>ult nerf on mercy
No, right now lucio is better then mercy in every way barring her ult.
Lucio passively heals 25hp/s in a giant aura.
If you heal one other person you are already healing the same amount mercy can, while still having the ability to fire, and he has great mobility.
Your E bumps it to 120hp/s for 3 seconds. Without the revive ult, mercy is subpar to lucio
>get a quintuple kill with Rein
>wait until the end of the game assuming it's gonna be POTG
>it is, so try recording it with shadowplay
>nothing happens
>go to highlights, try again
>nothing
And then it was lost to memory.
>>342240969
But they go invincible in between those 2 and are moving away or healed up or managed to get into midrange now.
The second fan the hammer does jackshit in those situations.
>>342240726
Its boring as fuck. You get to murder someone everytime hook comes off cooldown and aside from that do nothing else.
Its excrutiatingly boring in comparison to every other tank, no movement abilities, no challenging mechanics to master nothing. Its just Hook M1 Melee, Repeat Hook M1 Melee Repeat.
That theres a Hog in every single last pub game depresses the shit out of me.
>>342234563
what if I just want to play one hero?
>>342241073
Her ult charges way too fast. I think she's the superior defensive healer if you ask me- I typically switch from Lucio to her on push maps as defense if we get pushed back past the first 1-2 points.
I'm not talking doubling it, but man 20% or something it takes very little to get it activated.
>>342241073
So increase her single target healing, fuck I don't care that it makes her worse than Lucio, Zen is worse than Lucio and no one fucking cares the Ult is outright broken to the level of not even needing to think about tossing it out or not because it comes back so fucking fast.
>>342241212
So you're saying that McCree should just be able to instantly nuke every hero in the game?
He's good at killing some heroes, and not so good at killing others, as it should be.
>>342241396
Zenyatta fits a different niche. Unlike Lucio and Mercy hes capable of dealing real damage, with just a side bit of healing.
>>342241212
So fucking aim and Left Click you complete shitter. Its your primary attack for a fucking reason.
>>342232670
Why is this game so bad for everyone on the attacking side?
>>342241212
Yeah, congrats you just took a player out the fight and one of their useful abilities on cooldown. With decent composition and co-ordination with a proper team you can sic a more mobile class/sniper on them to clean up no problem. The game isn't just a out what you do and achieve solo, that's why it's team based fucko
hanzo needs hitbox nerf
d.va needs buff
>>342240350
Close range Mcree does 215 damage with Flashbang, lmb headshot and melee. That's more than enough to deal with Tracer or Genji getting close.
>>342241073
>Lucio passively heals 25hp/s in a giant aura.
12hp/second actually. And amp it up is 40hp/second. Where are you getting your info?
>>342240350
pls no buff for Zen, he'd turn OP really fast
Winston needs a serious buff or even a moveset overhaul.
His electric gun does absolutely pitiful damage compared to other tanks, his jumps and ult melee are all easily telegraphed and locked down. And his immobile shield is just about the only useful thing he has.
>>342232670
I think that all characters are fine. I can't wait for people to call the next character OP.
I've been playing mobile bastion attack and defense. People think I'm just fucking around. Run away turret up and watch them come to their death.
>>342241547
So why directly compare Lucio and Mercy then? The Ults and healing are for two different uses, Mercy also has the damage boost which is great for defending teams. Lucio is amazing for breaking holds and initiating pushes and surviving Ult spam on reaction.
Saying that this broken thing should be left in the game because theres another hero performing the same role but better is stupid.
>Now traveling to Lijiang Tower
>You're a Tracer main
>>342242026
If you wanna see pitiful damage look at Dva.
Her chainshotguns maybe chip someone's tooth at point-blank range.
>>342242027
>tracer tries to flank
>just turn recon mode and melt her away
I love his recon rifle, it's so good
>>342242026
I would make the shield a little stronger and make the jump have a larger area of effect on enemies. A wall climbing ability would also work pretty well.
Dva definitely needs a buff.
Her ult is too easy to dodge, and broadcasts itself too much, just step behind anything and the blast does nothing. Reins shield takes absolutely no damage from it. It's probably the worse ult in the game.
Make more stealthy.
Also, right now she seems to have an identity crises. She's a tank but her blocking capabilities aren't that great. She has great mobility, but playing her offensively doesn't work either. She's too squishy for a tank, she gets rekt too easily for being a tank.
So either,
Increase her damage or Narrow her spread or Change the shield to be more like reinharts or give her more health Or make her hit box not so ridiculously huge.
>>342242308
They can headshot, aim a bit better and the damage starts racking up. They do fucking nothing outside of point blank range and most of the other classes can simply move faster than the D.va while shes firing. That and they get no screenshake or aim penelty so they can just scoot away and blast the shit out of her massive crit box.
>>342241907
gamepedia
Which as of june 9 revision listed these.
They are different now, not sure when that changed or what that change was
>>342240350
>Mercy ult charges every second just from holding right click.
>Wants to make it charge faster.
>>342242498
I'm not saying you're not right, but i dont think we've seen at all what she is capable for a team with proper coordination
Her soak is absolutely fucking bonkers if you time it with your team. You can absolutely shit on a bastion/tor soaking up his shit while your team comes from behind.
But yeah, she is garbage at the moment
>>342242707
Per THREE seconds brosef. That's 40hp a second on amp.
>>342242864
fuck,
my fault then.
>>342242784
You misunderstood me, I meant make it charge 25% slower.
It's just fucking silly right now.
>>342242923
Not your fault. I have no idea why they're measuring it in blocks of 2/3 seconds instead of just per-second and letting everyone do the very basic math in their heads.
>>342242498
Her Ult is not for killing people its the same idea as Winstons and Roadhogs and to a degree Hanzo. Its for directly moving people away from an area or clearing out a control point.
>now traveling to Numbani
>>342237529
>that junkrat
>it's a "someone locks genji/hanzo/reaper/widownmaker/dva and doesn't switch the entire game, even if we lose or a support/tank leaves" episode
>>342242498
They already said they're going to buff her
>have the deflection shield heal her based on damage absorbed
>reduce the detonation time on the ult by a second or two so more than one person can actually fucking die to it before hiding around a corner
just some ideas
>>342243002
Yeah it is. I don't know how much of an impact it would have since most people just hold it for 3+ rez right now anyway
>>342232670
McCree needs a rework on his nerf because I've never been killed by a single McCree at any range since the nerf unless the person playing him has aimbot tier headshot aim, at which point he'd be better off playing Soldier 76 anyway for more dps and damage potential per magazine. Putting FtH on a cooldown, removing his reload on roll, and reducing FtH shot damage to 60 would have been fine.
Now that a mediocre Widowmaker can't instantly delete Zenyatta I think his health is fine, but a little work on his orbs would be nice, like removing the indicator of where the discord orb is at but make it stay on targets for longer. Also either slightly up the healing rate of harmony or make it stick to allies even without line of sight.
D.Va still needs something to give people an incentive to pick her over Winston other than waifu bait.
Widowmaker could still use a longer charge time and longer time between shots, and her hook should go on a 1/2 seconds cooldown if she's receiving damage so she can't easily escape from everybody that isn't Winston, that way she can't escape if somebody catches her, and will have to use her mine to know someone's coming and preemptively hook to another spot before she's caught, not after.
Symmetra needs some kind of change to her shields, because 25 really is barely anything. Maybe bump that up to 50 or let her shield less teammates but for more shield health instead.
Hard to think of any other changes that wouldn't make characters either too strong or too weak, especially since there are lots of characters that need some work put into them to become useful in top play like Mei, Bastion, Junkrat, and Torbjorn, but changing even a small thing about them can make them too strong with the way their skills and guns work.
>>342243412
I agree snipers are disposable when guarding point B or on the last stretch.
And D.va is just trash.
But a reaper is always good, what's your problem?
>>342243749
reaper is shit unless you're on koth or defending against someone attacking with more than 2 tanks
>ctrl+f "junkrat"
>only like four people play him
junkrat is one of the most versatile and satisfying characters in the whole game. mobility, dps, area denial, even killing flankers with steel traps. in a vacuum, junkrat can win head on vs any character.
>>342243842
The problem I have with Junkrat is that I start to panic once the defense breaks and the enemies start pouring in
>>342243842
He's good, but I find his bouncy, floaty grenades awkward and unsatisfying to use. Especially since I used to play demoman a lot.
It feels like playing Demo on a low gravity server in slow motion.
>>342238093
>Tracer: I need healing!
>Tracer: I need healing!
>Tracer: I need healing!
>Tracer: I need healing! - low health
>always behind a fucking wall or overextended and far away from everyone
>>342242798
It's easier when coordinated that's for sure. Her boost is extremely effective at chasing and flanking. But I notice that once she starts shooting it just doesn't work out, the damage output just isn't enough/focused. you end up really needing to surprise the enemy. Which is harder if both teams are communicating effectively.
>>342243828
Educate me then
What's a better flanker for when the whole enemy team is focused on a chokepoint?
Tracer?
Mie?
They can't move between doorways with no chance of being seen in the open. And their ults don't cover nearly as much space.
>>342234146
>Reduce Reapers HP by 50. Then give it to Pharah.
With Reaper's health regen I feel like this is completely fair. Though you have to be up close to deal any damage as Reaper so the extra health is warranted. Why not give Pharah shields or armor or something?
>>342242498
>hear nerf this
>hide behind a cardboard box two feet away
>safe from the explosion
>>342244150
>What's a better flanker for when the whole enemy team is focused on a chokepoint?
It'd be stupid to play a flanker while attacking a single choke in the first place, you should be playing something to help push with, but yes, Tracer can cover much more ground than reaper and isn't slow and predictable. Mei isn't even a flanker.
>>342243842
Most of Junkrat's gameplay involves sitting behind a chokepoint blindly spamming grenades to hold a position. Don't get me wrong, he's effective at what he does, but there's not a whole lot of interesting things to master with the hero.
He's essentially a more watered down, less versatile, lower skill ceiling Demoman.
>>342235698
>neef or redobhalf of thevcasts ult and habilities
i agree man i agree
>>342243225
The difference is that both their ults are objectively better. Winston has increased survivability and damage, roadhog can ult just plain blows people away/push back. Dva's is easy to see coming giving everybody with half a brain a chance to dodge (especially on maps with lots of things to hide behind). People might move out of the way, but at the end of the day it's just not good
>>342244325
When we've already got a sniper, support, tank, pharah, it only makes sense to get someone who can flank.
Also I find reaper's disengage way more reliable than tracer. He can make a beeline right into team mates. Tracer has to recall and go back the way she came.
>>342232670
let mercy dual wield healing sticks, no buff i just wannit
>>342243842
I can't play Junkrat. I burned out on him in one of the beta weekends. He is a top 5 character though. Only loses to reaper hard.
>>342243496
The first idea is good, I just don't think it's enough of a buff. The shield still has a high cool down, and it doesn't address that shit spread she has.
>>342232670
they only need to nerf Mei to NOT be annoying.
that is all
>>342244796
mei's character is based around being annoying
>>342244697
Junkrat's trap holds for far too long. I know the mentally challenged can have a tough time hitting moving targets with a grenade launcher, but Blizzard should give them a little more credit than that. At least let us shoot it off of our feet.
>>342244026
i played a lot of demo in TF2 as well, you just have to get in a different mindset with junkrat. i don't find the grenades to be too annoying to use, especially cause every character is slower overall anyway in OW.
>>342244403
that's not true at all, you can play junkrat aggressively and well. if you've seen a good junkrat, they don't sit behind a wall and lob grenades. junkrat destroys squishys, and can destroy tanks as well if you're aggressive with him.
the only problem is he gets countered pretty hard by pharah, and that's when you need your team. pharah keeps aggressive junk in check.
>>342232670
I don't play d.va but I think she needs to be buffed. Every waifufag i've played with that insists on playing her keeps bringing the team down.
Do I suck or something? I get a lot of people complimenting me, but it feels like I spend the majority of my games surrounded by retards.
>>342244768
he loses to pharah way harder than reaper, but yeah reaper is another counter i didn't consider. not as bad though.
>>342244921
>walking in a back path with a junkrat on the other team and not looking for traps
you deserved it
>>342244026
you gotta take advantage of their bounciness and bank them off of walls and shit while you hide behind cover
Also you can use his mine as a jump and air drop mines and a bear trap on them, it's hilarious
He's just so fucking fun, I can't believe I've been using reinhardt instead of him for so long
>>342232670
>Attack
Pharah
Junkrat
Soldier
>Defend
Torbjörn
Symmetra
Junkrat
>Nerfed
Widowmaker already got a nerf so I don't have any major complaints
>Buffed
D.va is trash outside blitzing Hanamura
>>342245150
>back path
Some Junkrat's players throw the thing in completely random positions. It's my bad for not noticing, but why punish me that hard? I don't even think Mei's freeze lasts that long.
>>342233585
I get annoyed because every Mei player has garbage aim (why do you think they are playing the W+M1 class?) and takes like 4 solid seconds to line up a headshot
>>342238324
> doing great as Hanno
> as soon as a Mercy starts buffing me I choke and start missing
Guess I can't perform in the spotlight
Torbjorn can be a massive pain on consoles due to the shitty aiming. On tf2 i usually delt with turrets by sneaking around the corner and shooting the turret where you could see it while it couldn't. thats not possible in overwatch, the second you can see the turret it sees you, ive even been shot through the bloody geometry of the map, They should either reduce the lock on time or add damage fall off becasue right now on console the only way to destroy a turret easily with not many sacrifices is to play Widowmaker. Allthough torbjorn is easy to deal with on PC with the better aiming.
Remove hanamura
>>342237093
For the last time shitter Mei isn't strong. Neither is Torb and Roadhogs hook is already balanced, if anything more range on it would be nice. Do you work at Riot?
>>342245797
Hence why the games have separate balancing.
>>342245797
There's also cases where the turret won't shoot you until you start to shoot it. It's complete ass.
>>342245398
mei's freeze doesnt let you shoot back
>>342245797
I was trying to remember why TF2 sentries were less annoying despite being more powerful and I think that's it. Why the fuck don't those things have blindspots?
>>342245691
Just try playing Pharah and having one on the team, fuckers are glued to your ass permanently.
I never asked for you to follow me about slut go farm assists from someone else.
>>342237385
>Winston
>Tank
Everyone but Widow. I can't hit anyone for shit with her and always get picked off by genjis or other snipers real fast. I have no idea what's wrong with me, I aim fine with every other character, at this point I've just given up playing Widow.
>>342245691
>Successfully lead your shots as Pharah
>Mercy starts buffing you and you can't shoot for shit
>>342245927
>someone dares suggest a nerf for Mei
>OMG she's bottom tier fuck off nerd don't touch her!
The dude's got some actual wack suggestions like getting rid of Reaper's ultimate but you go for the jugular over him wanting to change your bae? Fuck outta here.
>Buff Widow dmg back to 150
>Raise Zen hp to 160
>Buff DVA
Everything else is fine
>>342245552
Sniping nigs across the map with Mei is funny as fuck, just thinking about the rage makes my wieny hard
>>342237103
because pharah has a jump ability that doesnt hurt her just like junkrat has a jump ability that doesnt hurt him
pharah has damage fall off because her projectiles are much easier to aim
Honestly everything is pretty good
Tracer could use some sort of adjustment, either cooldown increases on all her abilities or a sightly larger hurt box, same for genji.the recent nerfs made them both a lot better. To the point where they are flat out overwhelming if the player is good.
Does this game try to match you with people in
your region?
I swear I'm getting matched with people who have a huge ping difference and all my shots just miss.
>>342237529
>mercy I play with
>SHE DOESNT EVER FUCKING REALIZE I AM DAMAGED AND REFUSES TO HEAL ME UNLESS I WALK UP RIGHT INTO HER FACE
Fucking blind dumb slut.
>>342235637
A good Lucio has a huge effect on a close game
>>342237385
Muh nig.
Anyone else saying they're tank Mainers and don't main Winston are babbys using babby tanks.
reduce the amount of initial speed drop-off when hit with mei's m1
fucking figure out some way to stop people from dropping before they have to play defense this shit is annoying as fuck
>>342245927
The problem is that Mei's too flexible.
Close range lockdown:
>a slow even a blind, drunken monkey could hold on somebody that stuns after a while
>can easily headshot people while they're frozen
Long range poke:
>semi-high damage shot with fast travel speed, no drop or damage falloff
>can headshot
Escape and/or area denial:
>can wall off an area to keep people from following her or from running away
>can potentially freeze an entire team with her ult
A pain in the ass to kill:
>get her to ~20hp
>lol I freeze myself and heal
>comes out of freeze
>lol I put a wall down and run
>get her low again
>lol I freeze myself
>etc
That's from a support player's perspective though, fuck if I know.
Remove Toblerone stacking.
Had 6 of the cunts defending the Russian industries one the other day, playing with PUBs it's impossible to counter
>>342246248
But Mei is shit, as long as you keep your distance if it's one on one, or just have your teammates shoot at her when she's trying to freeze she's useless.
>Getting into McCree post-nerf
>Can pluck the squishies who think they're safe
>Harass the shit out of Bastions and Torbs
>Flashbang charging Reinhardts saving friends pinned by him
McCree is so much fun and I don't have to hear the cry of OP anymore.
>>342246768
That doesn't change the fact that she's not a fun hero to play against. She needs a rework.
I dunno whats causing it, but somethings fucked with the servers. Most times I get 50 ping or less, but sometimes I spend a whole game at 300 or more, with spikes up to like 4000.
>>342232670
None, because i'm not gonna buy a $50 game that will just be a paperweight when the servers die in five years.
>>342232746
This is why blizzard listening to the masses always results in their games going to the shitter 100% of the times.
Look at this shit. This person unironically thinks those heroes needs these changes.
People are surprised why blizzard games become shit after X months, I am surprised how don't they instantly become cancerous after a week, so with many idiots requesting bullshit ever since the closed beta.
>>342235847
You can see why, though.
Primary fire slows attack speed and eventually freezes people in place for anyone to shoot. Secondary fire is a semi-auto sniper rifle that deals 75 damage, 150 damage per headshot.
She can self-heal while being 100% invulnerable, and body blocks areas for 4 seconds in the process. It can also be used as an invincible shield by allies. You also continue contesting points while in this invincible state.
Her wall has too many applications to list, but it can split apart enemy teams, block them from points, protect retreats, funnel enemies, raise allies to higher structures, misdirect your location to the enemy, and so on.
Her ultimate slows everyone in an 8 meter radius down, freezing them for 2 full seconds. It's nearly impossible to escape it, unless you're right on its edge. It also does 97 damage and has an absurdly massive range when thrown.
So in summary, her basic attacks are a complete input denial at close range, a medium damage sniper range attack, she has two utility heavy moves that deal no damage but do make her invincible, and an ultimate that can cause a whole team to wipe with another complete input denial. She's close range, long range, utility heavy with self healing and invincibility and mobility options.
Really, I think her basic attacks slowing people as fast as it does is a bit much, but it's easy to see why people despise her.
>>342241135
ctrl f10
saves last however long that just happened, you can press it at any time in game. dont wait for potg
anywhere i can read up on strategies to get better? just started two days ago, having fun but im not that great
wanna get better with Reinhardt for sure
>pushgun behavior too inconsistent
>really starting to hate being burstfire only
>but cant give up wallriding
>>342246248
>My bae
That's the Doritos gremlin. Secondly, have you tried playing Mei. You freeze for no damage, you can get maybe one ice shot off before they get out and ficki ficki your asshole, and her ultimate is so telegraphed even Zenyatta can escape it.
>>342236054
I think he'd be just fine if his turret could only aim between where he was looking and the turret. So if you sneak up on him or his turret, it won't target you. It would also ensure it's impossible for him to get kills without actually being aware of what's happening and where it needs to be happening, without resorting to him just firing a gun like everyone else.
>>342247181
His secondary fire is the definition of busted. I've had it both not effect me and send me flying so far away that I can't get back into the map even as Pharah.
>lose game because of shit team
>type in "shit team"
>team instantly calls me bad at the game
>"but it's a team game"
>they instantly shut up because no rebuttal
pretty much every person who plays this dogshit is a moron it seems
>>342247181
I love wall-riding. I also enjoy playing JSR music when I start Lucio rounds.
>>342234132
>unimpregnable
so easily breached?
>>342246929
>Not fun to play against
Not a valid argument Rito James. Even if she's not fun play against she's still not strong. She's like Zed. 1 v 1ing her means you're mentally disabled and deserve it, when you're supposed to fight her as a team. Overwatch isn't cawwadooty
>>342247265
>you can get maybe one ice shot off before they get out and ficki ficki your asshole
Well then you fucking suck at aiming, I kill people a good 90% of the time they get frozen, just headshot them.
Her ult's also practically impossible to escape unless you're on the outer edge or have a dash ability.
>>342247571
>Even if she's not fun play against she's still not strong
Never said she's too strong. Try reading.
>Overwatch isn't cawwadooty
You just blow in from the youtube comments section or something?
>>342247181
Lucio altfire, and Roadhog hooks are busted.
Lucio's push sometimes send people flying, other times barely nudges them.
Roadhog hook sometimes places people directly in front of me, other times places them too far in front of me, the sides or worst of all behind me.
>>342246770
>finally able to play McCree without shitters complaining 24/7
>>342247427
It felt so fucking good doing this all on my own the first time.
>>342246336
>Overwhelming if the player is good
>needing any kind of adjustment
>Because of recent nerfs, we need more nerfs
Fucking blizzard and their audience man.
>>342247770
>Doesn't know Cawwadooty was how it was pronounced in the early days of /v/
how to make widowmaker's ultimate more balanced
>Can only highlight people if the player seems them through the scope after activating the ultimate
>HIghlight lasts for 30 seconds or until whoever is highlighted dies
>>342247998
>implying that was his point or relevent to the discussion
Wow.
>>342248009
Or it only works when scoped, and your team only sees targets that you're looking at through the scope.
>>342247421
I don't know why I've been so compelled to drive people to rage in Overwatch. It's never been so easy to do so in any game.
Rework Mei's primary so it freezes after you do a percentage of the character's base health rather than the same fixed amount. Ideally this would make her more effective against low health targets and less effective against high health targets. Same for her ult freeze.
Give Pharah a charge-shot secondary, basically like Zen's where she can hold to charge up to 6 rockets at once. Then give her 100 health 100 armor instead of 200 heath.
Double the firing rate of Torb's turret while halving the damage per shot, making it do the same DPS.
>On attack
>Enemy FUCKING CUNT MEI is consistently headshotting our squishes, cockblocking our pushes and trapping our mercy with icewalls
>Defending the payload on last
>Enemy Mc-Rightclick high noons on the payload
>Crouch behind the payload to break LOS
>Our FUCKING CUNT MEI puts an icewall under him
>>342239876
Or I could play as Gurren Lagann using the coins I saved up instead of buying crap I won't use at all.
>>342247978
You realize they directly nerfed two of their biggest counters right? They are both too strong now.
All this salt over Mei.
I could start a salt mine.
>>342248218
thats what I meant.
>>342248684
source on this?
i've seen other artwork of similar Mei, and the bulging cross eyes always crack me up.
fix hitboxes sizes across the entire cast
fix the 20 tick nonsense
program the avoid system so it actually works so i never have to see meme spouting faggots or their idiot names
>>342249089
>>342246336
Gee anon it's almost as if you can go winston and harass the shit out of them with your low cool down jump and auto aim gun until they either change or do fuck all the entire match with you up their ass all day.
I play junkrat, Reinhardt, and mercy mostly.
The dwarfs turret needs less range
DVAs much explosion radius needs to be lowered.
Mei's freezing ability should take longer to freeze
Reaper should be slower fire rate
Bastion needs slower self heal and longer reload times in turret mode, bullets spread should also be a thing
Widowmaker needs bullet drop
Hanzo arrow should do less damage when it's not pulled back all the way.
Alt/side weapons for all or most hero's. Like Mercy's pistol. Could be weaker than main weapon.
Change Winston somehow so he's not both
>extremely useful
and
>boring as fuck to play
It's the worst combination possible.
>>342249089
http://markraas.tumblr.com/
Here's a favourite of mine from him
>>342248682
Yes, but proposing another nerf instead of a buff to the counters to genji so that balance is restored is not the way to do it. Balance should be achieved by buffs, not nerfs. Buffs raise the skill ceiling, nerfs lower it.
>>342233585
>play as hog
>this happens
>go ahead bitch, try it
>survive the blow and chain&stomp that bitch
Makes me all warm and fuzzy inside.
>>342248009
That literally already happens.
Even without a widowmaker if a teammate is looking at an enemy for a few second its highlighted even if you don't have LoS.
At least that's what I've experienced.
>>342249790
Depends on how much health you have. Too much? Headshot once which forces you to go heal while I go my merry way.
Either way, a smart Mei player will back off if you have too much health and giving you a good poke.
>Tracer
>add a little more startup to her ult to at least give people the chance to move
>Bastion
>raise damage on non-deployed basic attacks some
>raise deployed attack spread at range
>lower DPS of deployed attacks
>Bastions core problem is that he's designed as a turret and nothing else; he needs more incentive to get up and move
>Hanzo
>reduce the size of his arrow's hitbox; it's ludicrously large
>Mei
>increase time needed to freeze an enemy with basic attacks
>lower frozen status time on enemies with ult from 2 seconds to 1.5
>Torbjorn
>lower turret hp
>lower turret tracking if Torb is not in its area
>D.Va
>increase short range damage on suit
>decrease out of suit damage some
>Winston
>raise weapon damage by a tiny amount or something. he's often very easy to ignore
>Lucio
>lower passive healing
>raise Amp it Up healing rate
>Symmetra (Ms. Highest Winrate)
>raise ult charge time
>Zenyatta
>allow harmony orbs to heal for a smaller amount in a radius around the target
>>342249636
This shit's great.
>>342232746
>slow reaper firerate
how much slower can you get it to be? take one of the guns away?
>>342249770
They are currently in a state where buffing their counters again, like Mcree would put them over the line.
The issue is that most characters in this game are fundamentally broken so its an arms race to counter them. Tracer is smack dab at the top of the list in the cancer arms-race. Adding a blink and a recall that restores HP is fucking absurd in an fps.
I'd accept a Mcree change where the first 2 bullets in a fan do a fuckload of damage and the rest fall off hard just so he can effectively end any tracer or genji near him. But simply put nothing will ever feel good or balanced in this game because they add so many mechanics that require non-interaction from the player.
>>342249396
>they both easily run away from you instead of engaging
You clearly haven't played against a good tracer or genji. You leap, they disengage and hit something else. At best you tie one person on the enemy team up, at worst you flail around while they are still marginally effective.
Alright check this autism out
Mei's new M1 is now her current M2 icicle shooter - does slightly less damage HOWEVER it applies a slow to the target, with them quickly regaining their normal speed within about one to two seconds
Mei's new M2 fires a quick, short range blast of cold air, using up about the same ammo as the icicle, and causes instant freezing if caught in it, which lasts about half the time being frozen currently lasts. Does about 50 damage. Heroes who break out of this state cannot be frozen for about a second, (this does not apply to her M1's freezing ability) with a very mild visual effect to communicate this.
Mei can M1 immediately after M2ing.
Friendly Mei ice walls appear translucent (but still can't be walked through)
Ice wall now has three uses (like Tracer's dash), and each wall is about a third of the size of her current wall
Each of Mei's ice walls have a separate cooldown (same as Tracer's dash, again), which only starts ticking down when the corresponding ice wall vanishes (so if you have 3 ice walls up, the cooldown will only begin when one of the walls disappears)
Mei's self heal doesn't contest points, but reloads her gun gradually (reloads about half of your ammo if you remain in the self heal all the way)
The self heal period is slightly shorter, however it heals the same amount of health
Her ult remains unchanged
Theoretically, this should make her more fun to play against while also keeping her viable against better players. At least that was the intent.
>>342250694
A single flash+FtH combo does 295 damage post-nerf. If a McCree can't reliably kill a Tracer or Genji then the problem is with the user, not the character. Same with Widow, the only difference is she needs two bodyshots to kill Tracer instead of one, but Widow can just do a quick double-tap if the first is fully charged.
>>342250382
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>>342232670
That recent patch needs to get fucking nerfed.
My FPS tanked after it hit.
>>342251421
for Tracer, McCree doesnt even need FTH.
Stun, and headshot will do more then enough.
>play mercy
>hear RYUUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE
>testicles recede up into my body
I swear genji's ult homes in mercy
>>342251757
>everyone on your team conveniently leaves LOS
>>342251421
It takes 3 bullets and a flashbang to fan down a tracer and 4 bullets to kill a genji. The stun only lasts 0.7 seconds so you will only get those 3 bullets within that timeframe. Genjis can dash away, or deflect and survive. Tracers you have to headshot.
The point is its less reliable to counter these two heroes on the hero that is supposed to hard counter them. Now depending on distance and if they were jumping or not its up to RNG if you get a kill or not, on the two most evasive characters in the game.
They nerfed him wrong plain and simple, killing these characters should be a given if they are hit by a flashbang, anyone else its questionable.
I can still kill tanks almost as easily as before, I can kill tracers most of the time but it takes far more effort to kill her than it should, and killing Genji's comes down to if damage was put into them before the flashbang. Shouldn't be like that. They need hard counters, and they nerfed their hardest counter.
>kinda annoying genji, best player on enemy team at least
>switch from only support on team to roadhog for some reason
>dominating everyone. even genji when I hook
>ult, genji runs in to deflect and I get wrecked
>round 2. 3 people are on point, no time to reload, genji is there, I NEED to ult.
>genji reacts slow and I kill off 2 before he starts to parry
>do a 180 for a couple seconds
>ult still going off, turn back to face him and he's literally running away before dying
>mfw
>>342251418
Yeah, that's some autism.
Too bad the devs would laugh at your ass.
>>342251621
Dad76 is always good
Buff D.Va and Mei
Nerf Mercy's ultimate charge time
>>342251757
Of course it does. There's nothing that gets genji mains harder than fucking up mercys. Even if we die jumping into the cluserfuck, at least we killed you. Same thing with tf2 spies
>>342251418
So a long range stun that lasts 1-2 seconds and a short range one that's instant, does more damage than her current secondary attack in some cases, and also repeatable every second. And spammable ice walls and her invincible heal also reloads her.
I don't think your problem is autism. I think you're just very unintelligent and you don't know it.
>>342247023
Your last paragraph sounds a lot like Zarya actually.
>>342251978
Like Mei's freeze, this could be solved by making the flashbang stun proportional to how much base health the character has. Everyone at 200 health can stay the same, a tank would only be stunned for a quarter of a second, and a Tracer or Zenyatta would be stunned for almost a full second.
>>342252809
Mei's ult and Zarya's have a lot in common. People in Zarya's can still fire back at you though, and can actually make a situation a lot worse if you're not careful, since it instantly gathers a lot of guns at once, all pointed at you, with no way to deal with the situation other than to shoot at anyone shooting back. Mei's just stops you from doing anything entirely.
>>342253042
I'd be completely alright with this. As long as genji is also stunned for a full second as well. Someone needs to keep them in check and their other "counters" like Torbj don't counter them worth shit once there is some skill behind the player.
>>342250798
Then get non shitter teammates to finish them off after you've weakened them with zaps or alternatively teammates that don't spread out in different directions so they can get picked off by the tracer or genji like chickens with their dicks cut off? Tracer is more of a problem with her cunty little heal but genji should be little more than a nuisance if your team isnt full of retarded babby's.
>>342253305
Genji is completely fine the way he is. If you can't line up a headshot on a completely immobile target then you're fucking retarded.
Overtime needs to be fucking nerfed
>defending last point
>10 minutes in overtime
Is avoiding/preferring a player just a placebo?
>>342252673
>So a long range stun that lasts 1-2 seconds
Neglected to mention it should dissipate at a certain distance so that it's at best a medium range weapon.
>short range one that's instant and also repeatable every second
Short range stun, yes. If you get close to her, you get stunned, just like currently except it's not an excruciatingly slow process, and if she/her team doesn't kill you during that short period, you can escape since she can't freeze you again for another second with the short range blast.
>does more damage than her current secondary attack in some cases
50 damage compared to her current secondary which can do up to 190 on headshots.
>but can be followed up with an icicle
Just like her current M1 can be.
>and spammable ice walls
That are much easier to get around, and at the same time more useful for Mei.
>her invincible heal also reloads her
Not as big of a deal since her ice walls would be smaller. Also not a deal breaker and could be easily changed regardless.
>I think you're just very unintelligent and you don't know it.
Got me there.
>>342232670
The game, as it is now, is just boring and unbalanced.
Overwatch needs to be F2P and a lot of stuff must change, to make the game even playable.
-Nerf one shot ults
-change the appearance of the female heroes to a more non generic sex toy design
-this diso guy is just awkward and makes me vomit how much memes he combines (worst design ever "beat beat beat beat dumdumdumdum")
-add a PvE mode
-new maps, because every map is just boring and looks like a TF2 remake
-add at least 40 more ticks
-make the "hit boxes" not as garbage, as they are now
-much better performance (the performance is just bad for such a generic game)
>>342253519
Doesn't kill him idiot. He is most certainly not fine, at higher mmr he's considered one of the strongest heroes in the game.
>>342253602
Kill the tp or something, fuck.
>>342253685
>at higher mmr he's considered one of the strongest heroes in the game.
Source: your ass.
>>342253662
>Needs to be f2p
Opinion discarded
>>342253662
>Overwatch needs to be F2P
Stopped reading there. Regardless of the state ANY game is in, opening it up to the flood of south amercians will destroy any positive changes they make.
>>342253662
Superb bait but I do seriously want a PvE mode, if only because Valve won't do anything with Mann vs. Machine ever again.
>>342232670
I'm a Torbjorn main and I think he needs a slight nerf to turret health. It shouldn't be able to take an entire round from Winston's tesla cannon and live to talk about it.
Blizzard should also implement a degradable performance mechanic as it takes more and more damage; not only looking worse for wear after taking a heavy blow but malfunctioning and performing worse as well.
>>342232670
>nerfs and buffs
The nerfs and buffs come from people wanting overwatch to be a game of skill and not a game of counters. Can't really change a game from how it is to what you want to be. No character needs a nerf, no character needs a buff. Instead learn who counters who and pick in accordance to team composition.
>>342254114
I kinda like that idea. Make it so it's 1:1 tracking at maybe 80% health and above and decrease it's tracking rate as it takes more damage
>>342253685
Holy shit all these McEasy tears. Tracer is more a problem with her blinks and full heals than genji now but genji has alot of counters. Go double winston, rotate jetpacks and kill him over and over since he only has 1 dash on a longish cooldown.
>>342254582
>Just use 2 heroes to kill one
Wonder if that makes him imbalanced.
>>342254156
>let's make every class the same in a class-based game
hurr
>>342254114
>not only looking worse for wear after taking a heavy blow but malfunctioning and performing worse as well
This. I always wondered why it wasn't the norm in the first place. It should stutter and missfire like crazy looking the way it does.
I find McCree to be one of the most satisfying heroes to use post-nerf. Aiming headshots with left-click requires considerable skill and flash+fan still serves its purpose against lower health characters. Added bonus of people not bitching like children anymore
Playing
>D.va
>Symmetra
>Mercy
>Lucio
Nerf
>Torb.
>>342254905
Thats not what I said at all, I said that each class has a counter and counters someone. Everyone was balanced including bastion because he had counters. Instead of complaining learn who counters who instead of being retarded anon.
>tfw most hours on Mercy yet still no s76 husbando
;_;
also still looking for source
>>342232670
I've mostly been playing Genji, Mcree, Junkrat, and Mercy. I'll switch them out to suit the situation if it's needed, though.
Mcree can be a little frustrating, though, because I feel like he was just slightly overnerfed. I only use fan the hammer on tracer, now, and to force reaper, genji's, and mei to exhaust their shift so I can re-engage. Unfortunately Mei is super shit to go up against, because my aim is still mediocre and I can't take her out at long range due to the massive damage drop off, but if you engage her at mid range she'll just walk up to you hopping around and freeze your ass the second you backpedal into a tiny piece of geometry jutting out of the wall.
I'm not too upset about the fan the hammer nerf, but I wouldn't mind seeing a very slight buff to his range so that I actually have a chance against a Pharah.
>instakills in a game you can't dodge on reaction thanks to shit tick rate
>>342254778
I "main" Genji and it only takes 1 Winston to counter him. You can't out dps him, you can't reflect him, and his leap goes further and has a longer cooldown than Genji's dash. Double Winston just shaves off a few more seconds of chasing you need to kill him.
Tracer, Symmetra and Tanks also screw him over
>>342255669
Genji has a lot of counters he is really difficult to play
His dash needs a buff to help new players pick him up
>>342254778
That's only one counter and it's probably the easiest one to do. One winston is usually enough for genji if you aren't complete shit.
Genji is a very balanced character based on skill
He was nerfed too much after the beta and is now really difficult to play
His dash needs a buff
>>342256217
Street Pig works too. The hit box on the hook is too big to be bad with it.
>McCree considered OP for pumping out damage on large targets
>gets nerfed yet he can still pump out damage on large targets
>killing smaller targets has always been rng with the fan
>now its even more of a rngfest when it comes to killing the smaller targets that his class is designed to counter
bravo blizzard
reduce McCree fan spread at close range you fucking idiots
>>342246713
>>semi-high damage shot with fast travel speed, no drop or damage falloff
Damage drop off is 22-75 now. It can headshot, sure, and it can be fired 0.5 seconds. That's pretty damned decent.
>>342256117
He has the highest skill floor, but once you "get him", he becomes a monster. I regularly get top damage and elims with him and his reflect ability is insane at shutting down ults, especially, Reaper and Pharah
>>342232670
>Attacking Volskya point B
>Enemy team has a Symmetra, two Toblerones, a bastion, a Mei, and a Hanzo
>The bastion and the two turrets are each on different floating platforms so there's a neverending stream of bullshit moving throughout the map
>The Symmetra has the point rigged up with nipple lasers supported by the Mei, sniper, and the Toblerone bodies
So glad these thread's memes are evolving, the D.Va dorito memes were gettingstale
>>342256495
His dash is fine. Any further damage buffs and he'd be broken. As it stands, he can 1shot 150hp classes with his combo.
His shurikens and ult are what need buffing if anything.
>>342256749
how about you hit those headshots with his no spread m1 instead
![13398405_719947631481789_740058712_n[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/D6tGChs.jpg "13398405 719947631481789 740058712 n[1]")
>>342256951
>>342254778
Double winston won't just be used to solely to make the genji players life hell, dual winstons is used alot in the lolesports tournaments because of how well he synergizes with himself. 2 jumps on someone will do 100 damage. Winstons gun does shit damage but combined with 2 monkeys on your ass and the instant 100 damage from the jumps and any squishy hero, not just genji will be dead quick
>>342257207
>Bra line
Dropped
>make roadhog's hook not home into people
so they stop ranting about it and it's a bit more skilled
>Symmetra's turrets have less cooldown
for you to be able to put em all on setup time without relying on a lucio
>Increase mercy's pistol firerate to be between the current firerate and the one from d.va's pistol
OR
>Increase mercy's switch speed so she's more entertaining to use in general
Zens ult damages enemies in radius
>>342256942
>>Volskya point B floating platform turrets
SO
FUCKING
BULLSHIT.
is this where I post my cool mei potg https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AwQe1kRn1j0&feature=youtu.be
>>342240793
Zarya pretty much needs a second tank to be effective, because she can't really tank herself.
Pharah is certainly not always viable. Most of the stages in Lijiang Tower work against her.
Let zenyatta fly, but keep movement speed the same. It'd be hilarious.
>>342240087
>it's ok anon, it's just your autisms.
I have 60hr in total and 20 of it is Mercy. I was playing Mercy because nobody else was playing supports but i'm actually liking it.
>getting PotG as Mercy
>12k healing
>45% of the team damage healed
>>342258158
savage
>>342234009
I like rein a little bit
>>342258291
>Zenyatta floats 4 seconds when he isn't grounded
Would make zenyatta fun as fuck
>>342252356
>that reaper
PATCH TIME NIGGERS,
PATCH NOTES ARE NOT ON THE FORUMS YET
CHECK UR B.NET NEWS TAB
>>342257619
>symmetra isn't noob-mode enough for him
lol
>>342232670
I play 95% Phara.
If they would reduce her jump cool down with like 2 seconds I would be very happy
>>342254114
I always felt Torbjorn's gun needs a nerf. As much as everybody complains about his turret, I feel like I'm cheating having it and a gun that's great long range and short range. Like, reduce the range or have a larger drop off in damage at longer distances.
Give Symmetra some kind of healing option so that she actually falls under 'support' and not 'worse Torbjorn'.
Let Torbjorn manually upgrade to a Level 3 turret with 100 scrap.
Up D.Va's damage, let her fire with the shield up.
Buff Bastion's speed in non-sentry mode.
>you'll be kicked for inactivity within a literal minute BETWEEN matches
bout to drop this shit
>>342258291
Let Zenyatta be immune to Junkrats trap.
>>342259631
The fire rate is there to compensate. That and he's shooting molten lava at people. The game treats it like an explosive for that very reason. I've had Torbjorn spray me down with righteous fury but that's what I get for overestimating him. You'd also be amazed at how many people don't know he even has alt+fire.
>>342259096
Here we go
>When activating Widowmaker's Ultimate ability, Infra-Sight, her voice line will now be audible map-wide
>"Weapons" section added to the Hero Gallery
>Added McCree as an AI hero in Practice vs. AI, Play vs. AI, and Custom Game modes
>Added a variety of a social options to the hero selection and end of match screens
>Removed "Prefer"/"Avoid" player system
Thank god blizzard hasn't caved in to shitters yet and is just making the small changes most people can agree on.
>>342232746
>Reduce Reinhardt Swingspeed
Retard
>Increase hitbox size for Genji and Tracer
Retard
>Slow Reaper Firerate
Retard
>Remove all Defense maps
Retard
>Server Browser
They said they want to add this at some point
>Fix netcode
Agreed
>>342259715
>letting Torbjorn get free ults when his turret is already a laser-guided death machine that has zero blindspots
>up D.Va's damage
I can go for this. But what I'd really like is for, once the Meka is destroyed, for there to be an AoE explosion that hurts everyone for 13-80 damage depending on the radius. Usually enemies swarm D.Va as that shit detonates and take her out. I've had Reinhardt bat me immediately upon flipping backward and then a second time which puts me down for good. I'd like a little security.
Or failing that I'd like for D.Va to be bale to launch in any four directions me it back, forward, left or right. I''d like for here to have completely invincibility until she hits the ground. I've been killed in the backflip animation more times than I can count. I'd also appreciate the ejection launching D.Va further away. At max the distance of one of Tracer's blinks.
All Bastion would need is 25 ammo ala Soldier 76 and he'd be gold--though it'd just make him a better S76 at that point. There's really nothing you can give him since he's absolutely solid.
>>342260319
>though it'd just make him a better S76 at that point
It wouldn't. His rate of fire is lower and he doesn't have helix rockets. He also can't heal while doing other things.
>>342258606
That's exactly what happened with me. I was surprised at how much fun I was having flying back and forth micromanaging everyone's health and damage boosting specific characters. I'm mostly playing Tracer now. I was harassed by them for so long as Mercy that I was able to learn all the tricks and the paths to take by just seeing them come at meand my team completely ignoring them
>>342259979
>>When activating Widowmaker's Ultimate ability, Infra-Sight, her voice line will now be audible map-wide
Not like that's going to stop people. "Hey guys Widow can see you so get in a building." is going to be about the extent of it.
>>342260508
Shit I hadn't considered rate of fire. I like playing Bastion and standing up to people but man them 20 bullets are gone in a heartbeat. Damn my shitty fucking aim and panicky trigger finger.
>>342260732
Hence, movement speed. The whole point of Bastion as I see it is you're trying to get into a clever, strategically useful place to turret up and do some actual damage.
However, all you can do right now is pick a spot, turret up and hope. If you buff his movement speed, maybe also his transformation speed, at least you give him a fighting chance if he gets discovered and bum-rushed, or jumped from behind.
Right now, he's useless on any of the KOTH maps and most of the payload ones unless the other team is full of blithering retards.
>>342260936
I'd also completely overhaul his Ult and just turn it into something like Molten Core, where you get an extra 500 armor or something. The Ult isn't any more or less destructive than turret mode, and what you really need is something that you can situationally use to turn the tide of a fight in the way that Molten Core does.
>>342246604
who are u playing my dude?
>It's a "Friends start losing so they switch to Bastion to make sure we lose even harder" episode
>>342237385
its fun as fuck killing flankers and healers all day but Winston isnt a prototypical tank brah. I love going Grape Ape and smashing fuckers doe
make it that a hero can only be one time in a team
i'm sick of playing against 3 Torbjörns in the defense team
>>342232767
aim for the head dumb ass
The only buff anyone needs is D.VA
>>342262591
They should make another play type for that or have ranked matches be like that. I'm fine with quick play having multiples of one character to dick around with
>>342250089
His recon mode attack is actually pretty great by itself. If you get hooked by a Roadhog then you can chew most of his health off before he kills you.
>>342232670
Symmetra
Bastion needs his armor nerfed by about 25, maybe buff Zaryus health, that's all
Best Tracer review
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4SJtd93-JfI
>>342264689
Both are fine
>>342250084
>a smart Mei player
>>342232746
You're so bad
>Fix Junkrat's remote mine so that the particle effect matches the absurd damage radius
>Buff McCree's ult to take less time to reach insta kill. Also lower his fan's spread, or upgrade his six shooter to an eight shooter.
>Triple the time it takes for Bastion to set up.
>Give Reaper an alt fire that lets him fire both shotguns at once, but does less DPS than his main fire.
>Let Zenyatta's orb affect himself when he's not using them. Discord should give him damage resistance.
>>342247398
If Lucio amps it up, his push gains SEVERE knockback instead of the usual little bump.
Make it so that Mei freezes an enemy if she does 40% of their HP in damage instead of a flat amount. She remains the same against most of the roster (everyone with 200 health), she gets nerfed against tanks, and she becomes an even better counter to Tracer.
>>342236742
I guess you play him so you know this but his dash cooldown resets on eliminations, and if it did any more damage his rmb+melee+dash combo would oneshot 200 hp characters
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