>FFDream: Are there any plans to port Star Ocean 5 to PC?
>Kobayashi: “Since the game is full of action, I wonder the ideal commands for PC might be… What’s the best way to play it, in your opinion?”
>FFWorld: “With a game pad?”
>Kobayashi: “Are people used to playing on PC with a game pad in Europe?”
>FFWorld and FFDream: “Yes.”
>Kobayashi: “I see. So if you have a game pad, you can play it without problems, but I wonder how those who don’t have one would play. That’s our main concern and why we’ve pushed to release a PC version later on, so that we could reflect on the controls for players without a game pad. The ASKA engine, which tri-Ace used to develop Star Ocean 5, allows us to easily bring the game to PC, so if we can find a solution to our problem with the controls on PC, porting it should be easy enough for us, although I can’t promise that it would be fast.”
Thoughts?
Let's keep golden faces, "hurr, PS4 lost another exclusive" and the rest of the standard platform war shitposting out of this thread.
>>342225743
Neat. I barely know much about this game, but I jerked off to this hyper drill a few weeks back. That outfit is bangin'.
The art designer that created this goddess should be lead over all future JRPG titles.
Tales made the switch and it's arguably harder to play with a mouse and keyboard than SO would be, not that most people don't already have a controller anyway.
I would love to get SO5 on PC personally, I've heard it's not that great but with how few actual JRPGs come out anymore I'd give it a chance.
>>342225743
>Since the game is full of action, I wonder the ideal commands for PC might be…
Yeah PC only has excel spreadsheets, never even seen a 3rd person action game there.
Amazing how lazy these guys are to even look up a few youtube vids to see how m&kb controls for 3rd person action games work.
I don't even want to play a game from such devs to be honest.
>>342225743
>nips not even aware you can use mouse and keyboard to play games
jesus christ, what do they think DOOM was made for, sticks?
>>342225743
>>Kobayashi: “Since the game is full of action, I wonder the ideal commands for PC might be… What’s the best way to play it, in your opinion?”
>>FFWorld: “With a game pad?”
>>Kobayashi: “Are people used to playing on PC with a game pad in Europe?”
Is dis guy for real
the amount of ignorance of what should be tech geeks in the industry is insulting, I don't even care if they port it, they can keep their turd, it most likely will be 30fps locked garbage with shit internal resolution and slapped on xbox 360 buttons
Just set half decent or crappy keyboard controls but let players remap them to whatever they want. Problem mostly fixes itself that way.
While shitposting is minimal, I'm glad PC players get to play another game and that Square is porting more games. On the other side, I haven't heard muchpositive things about the game itself so I hope it's not a situation where a mediocre title gets praised due to an avaliable port or first time players to the series.SO in general is kind of a mediocre series though to be honest
>>342225968
I guess it also should be mentioned that well, you know, the Souls games are on PC and everyone already owns a controller to play those with. I find it odd that they don't realize how many people have a PC ready controller at their disposal.
>>342225743
>Kobayashi: “Are people used to playing on PC with a game pad in Europe?”
I don't blame him for his ignorance. It's possible he's never worked on a PC project, and knows little about the ecosystem. These guys probably grew up on console gaming, and only know console gaming.
>>342226451
I'm playing all the Souls games with m&kb because it controls best that way, well for me at least.
This "you need a controller for action games" meme needs to die already, it is in no way beneficial.
>>342225743
Kobayashi souds like an idiot. Shit game though
>>342225743
I don't care for the game all I want is the model.
>>342226176
Who? The one who replied PC gamers use a gamepad?
Gamepads are for casuals. PC gamers use a keyboard and mouse instead.
Sweet, now I don't have to buy this game.
>>342225743
Japs only play dated crappy MMOs and H Games on computers.
And Kancolle I guess
>>342225743
I couldn't care less about PC ports but why is it so hard for devs to just let players customize their controls however they want?
>>342226053
m&kb works pretty well for TPS games
>>342225743
Well I did buy a 360 controller for dark souls and I think a lot of other people bought game pads too
Well I'm glad were getting a star ocean port
Thanks sonybros
>>342227198
It's a foreign concept for consoleplayers to have options.
Confusing and scary.
great another garbage game
>>342226585
Ignorance is sin, and lack of professional curiosity has to be shamed and ridiculed. How do you expect these fucks to make a good game if they have mind as narrow as that?
The models are unsettling af. Borderline disgusting.
>>342225743
Waste of time trying to woo pc fats because they were never interested in the first place
>>342226923
Pc gamers use whatever suits situation better, and for a lot of games gamepad is quite adequate since they are designed for it from the start
>>342227802
fair enough. maybe he'll look back on this interview and realize how unprofessional he sounded, and educate himself on PC gaming.
doubt it, but you never know. I'm told a lot of nip developers have made the switch to steam.
>>342227960
I was. Though, of course, I'd rather get Nier 2 than SO5, but what the hell.
>>342225743
Is this real discussion?
>“Are people used to playing on PC with a game pad in Europe?”
mfw
Very silly reason for a delay in the first place but I'm happy.
I'll get it on PS4 and grab a PC release later down the line when it's cheap.
I didn't even know it was getting a PC release so this is actually pretty surprising
Really hope we get SO2.
ITT: upset PCucks
>>342228582
If you were you'd already own the console it was on
>>342228683
Ah the 12 years old console warrior has arrived
I was worried that you would never show up
So tell me again why DL you need to justify your platform purchase kid?
>>342228683
By definition you are the cucK since another "exclusive" gets violated on PC infront of your eyes while all you can do is sit in the corner and cry.
People are just upset about unprofessionalism among big developers who work on such big titles.
>>342226176
It's completely alien to them
Japan has something ridiculous like only 50% of the population even owning a pc/laptop.
>>342225743
>their biggest problem is figuring out how to map the controls
lol japs
Already played it. Don't care.
>>342228736
I don't buy platforms for games. I buy games for platforms. Also, sadly I don't have the money nor room for both a PC and a console.
>>342226053
Its their way of saying " we dont give a fuck about pathetic pirating pc slugs"
>>342227970
false, gamepad is adequate because the port is fucking shit and doesn't support m+kb like it should or shows fucking xbox prompts since they were lazy
>>342225743
>we're studying the controls!
>we're planning graphical advancements!
>we're looking into the future possibility despite having ported all our 85 games before!
>it's unknown! (it's actually 100% certain) please buy our console version day one!
Why don't they just say the truth? They want to profit from double-dipping by locking out the best version for last.
Every developer delays the PC port, and they give all different bullshit reasons.
Be honest and say you're a greedy fuck, you spineless fags.
Alright I don't even know if I want this desu. Played SO1 and currently playing SO2 (both PSP). Star Ocean 1 was alright, didn't really have any desire to replay. 2 is looking more promising though, any tips for a newcomer?
>>342227198
They never did it, the standard on console is to limit a player experience to that of a full slave of a game dev, including how the game should be controlled.
They don't know how to do it and some probably don't even think people want such a thing.
As more and more games get proper PC versions I'm sure this myth will dispel sooner or later.
>>342228859
That's literally like saying that you'll wait to see someone else fuck the girl you're interested in because she puts some new make up on after everyone is done with her. She might look better at the end, but everyone already had their turn.
>>342229005
did you like it?
>>342230001
You're fucking retarded nigger console games always let you change the controls
>>342228859
I don't remember nobody even saying this was a exclusive, correct if i'm wrong
>>342230092
>playing a game after other people did it invalidates the experience
The japs already played the game. You better not buy it now, cuck.
>>342225743
I don't think there'd really be an issue coming up with a KB/M control scheme for SO5.
Sometimes I wish people wouldn't keep buying these shallow anime games, but I figure you can't reason with a weeaboo with no standards.
>>342230190
I'm not buying it because I'm gonna pirate it on PC, but your reasoning is retarded.
>>342230159
>always
Unless there is a deal that makes you money by going exclusive, you will want to bring your game to as many platforms as possible. Very few games sell huge numbers, you will want to get by.
>man is unsure about the pc gaming enviroment
>LETS MOCK HIM OPENLY
pc gamers everyone
>>342230253
It is, that's because I specifically used your own retarded logic.
>playing a game after other people did invalidates the experience somehow
Aside from being a drone with corporate cock down your throat, explain this one to me.
>>342230382
Or when Sony/MS helps with $$$ to develop the game.
That's why i think the new kojima game will not be a multiplat.
>>342230159
>GTA V for PS3
>pretty much the biggest, the most expensive game ever created
>can't invert camera
>mfw
>>342230394
>industry professional and veteran shows he's clueless about his own industry
>STOP BULLYING HIM GUYS
Kek
>>342230447
>I'm gonna play on PC
>you're a corporate dick sucker
???
>>342230394
>caring about mockery on 4chan
???
I'm new to the series. Can I play this game without playing other entry in the series
>>342230486
Just like SFV, Helldivers and Onimusha?
>>342225743
I can't wait for someone to rip this semen demon's model for Source Porn Maker.
>>342226585
>I don't blame him for his ignorance.
you're the ignorant retard here
90% of people playing on PC dont ever use controllers
and they are going to shit on any game that has controls made for a controller
>>342230598
You can start with this one. You'll be missing some good shit, though:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kNauq6_9iP0
>>342230634
Or the entire xbox one exclusive library, as of recent news it seems.
How many Console cucks who cry about Losing exclusives to PC actually have money to buy a Gaming PC.
And didn't buy a console just because its a cheaper option and costs as much as a good GPU.
I have a decent gaming PC (runs 99% of all recent games on 1080p 60 fps max settings) and a PS4 and a WIIU.
I prefer to play the best possible version of any game.
And i am actually happy when multi plats come to PC.
>>342230634
Depends how much they invested in the project desu. Sometimes it ends being console exclusive only.
Wait hold on, are you for reals? My waifu is coming to PC?
This has to be bait, right?
>>342230923
>My waifu is coming to PC?
How can she be your waifu if you know nothing about her?
>>342230923
Google "star ocean 5 pc" for source.Also google "how to not have a shit taste in vidya girls" for your own good.
>>342231113
I know she has big boobs, it's enough
>>342231125
I have a thing for drill hair thank you very much.
>>342231184
Jesus fucking christ. When did /v/ get infested by retards who don't even know what a fucking waifu is?
>>342231184
Boobs are so 2010
It's the booty where it's at.
>>342230824
I have a gaming pc and want devs to keep JRPGs on consoles since console owners actually respect jap devs unlike pc fats
>>342231268
>taking the waifu thing too seriously
If anything, you're the newfag.
>>342231398
My biggest problem with PC ports is that those people don't give two shits about the franchise most of the time, usually never played any of the other games but somehow still want to make the discussion all about themself. It's literally threads being infested by newfags.
>>342231497
Don't you have some senran or nep threads to shit up?
>>342231510
It's cancer and they're people who care more about hardware than the game itself.
>>342231510
>>342231576
I played the first 2 on the PSP and will only get this on PC, cry more butthurt faggots.
This game is terrible, as have been the last 3 games in the series. If it comes out on PC, pirate it before you buy
>>342231576
>people who care more about hardware than the game itself.
I recently build a PC 2 months ago and I got a 960 for 170. I needed a gaming machine, not a fucking performance test machine.
Not all PC gamers are the same you know.
>>342231990
What's delusional is pc fats who feel the need to bully and harass devs into bringing gamws to their platform then proceeding to bitch when the port isn't up to their standards.
>>342231218
And that's when you're not wrong. Those "clothes" and green lips though.
>>342231510
It's not about ports. Some people just don't want to play old games. I don't have a problem with that myself. Though in this case I only finished SO1 and played some 2 and 3.
>>342231576
It's apparent that you didn't see the Stranger of Sword City threads lately.
>game was confirmed to be shit months ago
>PC version coming
All PS4 owners make sure not to support this trash.
>>342226176
Jap 2016 games has installer from win 2000 era
>>342232084
You mean the threads made to shit on the vita for "losing an exclusive" when it wasn't even a vita game in the first place?
Yes I saw them.
>>342230824
I have a PC I use for everything, not just gaming. Sinking extra money into buying a decent rig is cheaper than buying both a PC and a console+TV .
>>342231873
Are you implying 1 and 2 were good?
>>342230825
It's always a business choice regardless. NIS games have almost always been sony exclusive without funding for more than a decade.
Even if a company funded a first party game entirely, it'd still be a possible choice to release it multiplatform. There are no set rules, just profits. Companies may think that the exclusivity stops being a relevant thing after X years, like many are thinking as of late for example.
This is why Sony for example is funding timed exclusives. Because they cannot get a better deal since it's common knowledge that a 5 year old exclusive isn't gonna matter anymore for the developers nor Sony themselves.
>"enjoy your scraps"
>"thanks for betatesting"
>"pcfats got their hands on my precious little game, its spoiled now, i can't play it anymore"
>"trash consoleport, no buy, no pirate"
who the fuck cares about how other people might or might not play a game, what platform they play it on or even what they say about it? Why does it matter to you so much you are going all the way towards judging the game based on secondary and tertiary pointless crap like that? Autism would be the only explanation, do you have any others?
>motherfucker don't even know how to play on PC
>deals with the conversion of comands do keyboard and mouse like that is a great problem
Know what I'm expecting? A shitty port.
>>342232513
Because everyone thinks that they're part of a team when they purchase a video game system. Mustards, nintoddler, sonyggers and xcucks are all alike.
>>342226053
even today, you still need to be Plasticman hands to play Dark Souls 1,2,3 on pc, even with optimized pc controls.
face it, kb&m is not the one tool fits all control for games.
>>342230824
Never understood this "losing exclusives" mentality.
It's just fanboys and their console wars shit.
I am happy if every good PC exclusive released on every console. Why the fuck would I hate more profits for developers whose games I liked?
This also happens to be a console faggot thing mostly. Most PC players don't care because they are already playing on the elastic machine that will adjust to the best performance they can get. It feels like console players feel "threatened" that their box is going to become worthless if it loses exclusives.
Stockholm syndrome, literally. Defending anti-consumer practices at this point. What the fuck fanboys, stop.
>>342232513
If you haven't realized it yet, /v/ is full of 17 year olds, or 20 year olds with the mental state of 17 year olds.
>>342232513
>>342232712
It's downright offensive that people only care about a game once it comes to their platform.
>>342231289
>>342232683
I'm wrecking controller babbys with m&kb in DS1.
I don't even use lock-on.
>>342232075
Would you be happy if a console game ran at 15fps?
You guys sure welcomed dragon's dogma performance dips on consoles, so much that the game hyperbombed and was critically panned for it.
It's fucking normal. If a game doesn't work, it's worth noting a shit job was done and it's fair to expect more. They are selling a product for money, they aren't making you a personal favor, idiot.
Stop getting cucked by developers. You have the power to make them do what you want, not the other way around. You are the one buying a product.
>>342232787
offensive for whom? And what do you even mean by "care"? I don't care about games, i play them and try to enjoy them as much as i can for that is the point of videogames. A game is not your girlfriend, devs arent your friends, and platform isnt your family.
>>342233080
One of the most critically acclaimed game of all time ran at 17 FPS.
Performance, graphix, none of that shit matters.
>>342232513
Creating console shooters has killed shooters for everyone for a decade now, since they are forced to be designed around being slow and with 2 weapons max, due to the inherent limitations of standard controllers. That's the only sensible example I can find.
Everything else doesn't matter.
Reminder not to support Square Enix.
>"would a JRPG work on the PC, I wonder?"
more hard-hitting reflection from Japanese developers.
>>342232787
It's only offensive for the other side of the drone faction. Hence why this argument is irrelevant.
If you believe this, I'm sure there are genres you haven't touched because they are not accessible on your system of choice, whatever it may be.
>>342233118
The game devs for one. And by care I mean think of how many other games someone might be missing out on that they would like but won't because they refuse to play on anything but pc.
Japanese devs are falling on hard times and if someone actually likes JRPG and other jap games they'd support the devs as much as possible instead of twiddling their thumbs begging for ports.
>>342225743
well if this actually happens, I'm happy, I'll buy it, even if it's mediocre I'm sure I'll spend more than 60 hours playing it.
>>342225743
the game is shit tough
>>342233220
If that same game ran at 60fps it'd be loved even more. Also, it was a different time, first 3d era had us woo at 3d grafix/concept as it was new technology and brought new types of games.
Super mario 64 had mostly placeholder textures and flat levels with no platforming and people still called it the best platformer. Then you have the entirety of Final Fantasy VII being overrated to ungodly levels.
Bring something extremely new, and people will overlook other issues. This industry has ditched innovation, so all people can focus on is performance and how well you copied something else.
Infact, you are seeing this with VR. The first VR games are getting passes for the basis of it being a new thing.
tl;dr false equivalence.
>>342233479
The same argument applies to console gamers only and PC-only genres not getting played by them. You are clearly a fanboy, argument invalidated.
>>342228654
After playing it on PS4 I highly doubt you'll want to play it on PC.
It's not that good, some will say it's outright bad.
>>342234094
If someone cared about those pc genres they'd get a pc.
If someone cared about JRPGs they'd get a console.
What's so hard to comprehend
>>342230647
>90% of people playing on PC dont ever use controllers
>Calling others ignorant.
Are you fucking serious? There's more third party controllers for PC than there are for consoles, you stupid fuck. Everyone owns at least one cheap knock off of the DS. You can even plug in a fucking wii remote.
>>342228582
I want Nier Rising Revengeance too.
But I was interested in SO5 ever since it's announcement.
>>342228736
Not true because I'm not going to buy a $350 machine to play less than $300 worth of games that are exclusive to it that I want.
Bloodborne, Star Ocean, Nier, FFXV (and that's not really exclusive it's just not been announced for PC yet).
Either the platform needs more exclusives that I want to buy to make it worth it, or those exclusives need ports so I can play them without buying the platform
... I'd rather not have to buy the platform though. There's nothing really appealing about the PS4 itself.
>>342233479
>falling on hard times
because they cannot adapt to the market
this isn't a charity, if a lot of people only find pc as a viable platform, devs should make games also for pc, and you should also ask yourself why they do in the first place, perhaps start blaming consoles for becoming pc's little retarded brother little by little? of course people will gravitate towards pc
take your drone circlejerk shit to the jrpg generals or gamefaqs
>>342234490
>>342234469
Fucking niggers asking for handouts.
>>342234240
How many exclusive JRPGs does the PS4 currently have?
Other than blood born which i beat on my friends PS4 who bought it because he lacks funds for a gaming pc is there a reason for me to buy one?
At the current moment PC is a strong JRPG platform.
>>342234240
some people don't think playing a single game is worth $500, i believe.
are all the games you're playing are 10/10?
are there mediocre games you still played just because you already had the system it was on and the costs were minimal thus more affordable? would you have invested $500 for that same mediocre game you don't like too much?
there you go
it's not all black and white, as much as your 4chan mentality leads you to believe
>Not releasing on PC because you don't know what keybindings to use
If only there was a way to let players customize their keyboard inputs.
>>342234490
So you think you deserve to be catered too even though you pirate games and refuse to buy them unless they meet some arbitrary standard?
Id rather video games die instead of seeing them try and please mustard ricers.
> developer wants to make sure that players can utilize the primary input device for users well
> FUCK THIS IGNORANT FAGGOT
And then when they put it out and go, "lol gamepad," y'all will bitch that they didn't both with mouse and keyboard.
>>342233479
>they refuse to play on anything but pc
nice fallacy, might only apply to certain "pcmasterrace" fanboys though which are a small fraction of pc gaming population. A better explanation would be the people who can't justify/afford getting a console for 1-2 games they are interested in arent happy about "exclusivity" contracts between devs/publishers and platform manufacturers
last line of picrelated is the only valid, acceptable justification of exclusivity.
>>342234895
>>342234895
>One game meme
Every time
>>342234408
If you have ever owned a console, you can use its controller, and it'll always work through the years and OS updates. The power of PC.
I find it hilarious that PS1 controllers do not work on a PS4 but they work flawlessly on PC.
I find it sad that a lot of PS3-compatible wheels and arcade sticks don't work on PS4. People should NOT spend $200 every generation to buy one gadget that plays one niche genre, that's the cost of a good graphics card. What the fuck are they thinking.
No wonders consoles are on a decline and House said enthusiasts are fleeing to PC. Console manufacturers are way too fucking limiting with their total DRM regimes. It's backfiring now.
>>342226176
What's wrong with it? Most PC players still stubbornly uses KB+M nowadays.
![798[2].png](https://i.imgur.com/kAQLsHg.png "798[2].png")
>>342228736
Did you buy a PS3 when TLG was announced, too?
>>342234649
>handouts
no, I'm asking for devs and publishers to make games available on my platform of choice so that I can buy it. and play it. I'll buy star ocean 5 at full price, on day 1. Even though it may be getting mixed reviews. I know I'll spend 60+ hours playing it so it'll be worth it.
I just don't give a shit about Sony.
>>342226053
Because the Devil May Cry games had good contro- oh...
Because the PC Final Fantasy games had good con - oh...
Because Dynasty Warriors games on PC had such good cont- oh...
Because Tales of games on PC had such good co- oh...
Literally the only action/JRPGs on PC that work on mouse/keyboard are two-button casual shits like Bam Ham and Ass Creed. KB/M has no analog movement while giving 101 keys to one hand and 4 to the other.
>>342235328
Like I said, you want a handout.
>>342228958
It just is typical PR talk, dude. They're using controls as a pretext for porting the game to PC way later than console.
>>342235298
Personally I never cared about TLG. Never really bothered to play ico or shadow of the Colossus
>>342232280
No, the ones after the port has actually been released. There were some Vita players there too.
>>342232513
The funny part is, I've never seen or heard anyone arguing about platforms IRL, even though I have friends who play on PC, PS4, X1 or WiiU exclusively.
Also, I remember platform wars between Atari's and Amiga's owners. 30 years later people still haven't learned.
>>342232893
Not using lock-on is an optimal way of playing DS really, no matter what you control the game with. It's harder at first, but eventually gives you more freedom.
>>342235413
>handout
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.
a handout implies I want them to give me the game at no cost.
>>342235328
>buying games to support distributors over developers
What has valve done with your money? Make microtransactions?
>>342225743
I DON'T WANT THIS FUCKING GARBAGE
PORT NIER FOR FUCK SAKE.
Why do we only get ports of bad games?
>>342234743
>nobody's buying games
>it doesn't work
Yeah, that's why so many japanese devs have joined the steam bandwagon
That's why all of them who started releasing kept porting regularly.
Also,
>deserve to be catered to
It's a market. Nobody "deserves" anything. If it's profitable, they are going to do it. Stop being a drone.
>>342235338
>I have literally never played any of these games with kb&m or even know the existence of stuff like severence blade of darkness and jedi knight games please rape my face the post
High level DMC players actually use the keyboard you scrub.
>>342235630
You want things given to you in your hand instead of you earning it. Hopefully you fall down some stairs or get in a car accident to rid the world of your selfishness.
>>342235006
what is this supposed to mean
example: im interested in bloodborne on ps4, i don't want to buy a ps4 for bloodborne
another example: im interested in twenty different jrpgs on ps4, i get ps4 because i think its worth it and i can afford it.
or: im a poorfag who works at mcdonalds to cover up student fees, rent and food, im interested in all games on ps4, xbone and wiiu but i only have a shitty netbook my parents gifted me 3 years ago, so the only thing i can afford is shitposting on chinese cartoons imageboards.
>>342235642
I'll have spoiled the entirety of Automata before it ever shows up on Pc
>>342235642
Automata is already confirmed for PC since it has no exclusive plastered all over it.
>>342235338
>Because Tales of games on PC had such good co- oh...
Playing thru Zestiria on PC, the controls with mouse & keyboard feel pretty good tbqh desu senpai.
Mustard here, isn't this the series that had one of its games end with a twist of "Nothing is real, this was all a video game"?
>>342234408
just because people on /v/ use controllers on PC, doesnt mean most people do it
most people who play on PC cant even do 1080p
>>342235650
They are doing that people like you are refusing to buy their games until they cater to you. The sales on PC are also pathetic, and their consoles sales will probably drop soon as well because people will get tired of being ripped off.
>>342235634
>implying when you buy from a store, 100% of that $60 goes directly to the developers
Steam is just a store, but it sells digital sku's rather than physical objects.
>>342235818
>earning it
not him but
what
the
fuck
am i reading
>>342235669
>jedi knight
>severance
>FPS controls, weapons have primary attack and secondary attack
Literally missing the point.
>High level DMC players actually use the keyboard
I don't believe you.
I literally can't wait for Square to go bankrupt. All of their game sales have been rockbottom worldwide. Fuck them. FFXV will be their death.
>10 million sales
kek.
>>342235818
no, I want something made available to me to buy.
I don't want the PS4 hardware. There's nothing about the hardware itself that appeals to me. Either it needs more exclusives to make it worth it, or those games need ports, or I just won't buy those games or play them.
>>342236089
Earn it by buying a consle.
>>342236256
So you won't support devs until they give you handouts. Disgusting.
So who's hype to pick this up on the 28th?
>>342235818
This has to be satire. Nobody that is alive right now can be this stupid. I have to believe this.
>>342236256
Why did you waste money on a PC if it doesn't have the games you want?
>>342236265
you seriously believe in this? Does anyone actually believe in this?
apparently >>342232743 was right all along...
>>342236435
This game deserves to fail miserably.
>>342236059
>you are refusing to buy their games until they cater to you.
So, you buy games that are not catered to you? I see.
>>342236265
I'm not the guy you're arguing with, but holy shit, dude. Just go to sleep and come back when you're rested.
>>342232787
There are different levels of interest you can have on games.
I don't give a shit about Uncharted 4 and would probably never play it even if it was a free game or I could pirate it. Then there's stuff like Bloodborne, which is cool and I would most likely be interested in buying and playing if it came out for my playform, but not interested enough to go buy a whole console for it.
Occasionally you have the exceptional games that are console-sellers, or the console where there's so many good exclusives that you have no choice but to buy a console (PS2 was a big example of this)
But buying a PS4 for Star Ocean 5? I'm good. I might buy this for 20 bucks if it comes to PC, but I already have a big enough library of games to play through as it is.
>>342236549
And why is that?
>>342236370
That's not a handout you retarded nigger.
"hey, I'd buy your game if you made it available in my region"
>THEN MOVE TO OUR COUNTRY, STOP ASKING FOR HANDOUTS REEEEEE
I just don't want to support Sony if I don't absolutely have to. Cause Sony can go fuck themselves.
>Open thread
>PCucks shitposting
Oh look another game that can't b discussed on /v/
>>342236464
Ever thought about the fact that it already has games he wants but he just wants more?
Nah, I'm sure he built a $3000 PC hoping that one console exclusive, which is the only game he wanted in the first place, could get ported.
You consolefags are amusing, really.
>>342236629
Censorship.
Short.
Bad gameplay.
Being put on PC.
The game already failed in Japan.
>>342225743
the only thing you will get on PC is porn.
>>342230647
you stupid fuck.
>>342236125
>FPS controls
Those are LITERALLY third person action games.
Jedi Knight offers an optinal switch to first person, but light saber combat is done in 3rd.
>weapons have primary attack and secondary attack
Jedi night has aditiinaly the force powers, severence is all about combos, which can get quite elaborate.
You are talking out of your ass so hard it's unbelievable.
Just because jap ports so far have been utter ass in terms of controls doesn't mean it's impossible.
There's no need for analog movement as 8 axis movement is enough for pretty much any purpose.
>>342236675
>Open thread about a game being potentially released on PC
>throw in a generic "pcucks" reply
are you retarded?
>>342232787
I do care about all games that may interest me (i.e. genres I like). I read about them and wish they're not shit when they're released, even if I can't play them right away.
There's a fucking lot of games. I can wait either for a port or for a time when the platform they're on will be cheap.
>>342236675
indeed, on the other hand consolekeks are scholars intelligently discussing the game, making arguments about "deserving" a game or thinking of developers as friends
>>342236796
Good post
But what censorship? The change of the girls underwear size in every single version of the game?
You could've atleast addressed what makes the gameplay bad.
>short
Yeah sure
> being on pc
Ok
Excellent post
>people care more about supporting billionare jew no games Gabe Newell than developers of the games
>>342236464
PC has tons of games I want. About 85% of the games I consider worthwhile each generation are on PC. 10% on the Nintendo console, and 5% split between Playstation and Xbox, not enough to be worth buying that hardware. I barely see enough games to excuse buying the Nintendo console, but Nintendo consoles also tend to do some gimmicky thing that my PC doesn't do, that makes it somewhat worth it, not to mention backwards compatability.
So yeah, I'm PC/Wii U right now, you're trying to convince me to buy a 3rd platform, for 3-5% of the games I care about.
>>342236059
Not him but you're retarded.
There's a reason why developers are porting games for PC and it's not out of charity to the moor mustards begging for ports. They fucking profit. No, their sales aren't as high as console sales most of the time, but what you have to take into account is that porting a game is way cheaper than developing it, so it still profits them handsomely.
And you can speak for yourself and yourself alone if you legitimately stop wanting to buy a game for a console because it's also coming out for another platform. That butthurt console warrior justice applies exclusively to the kind of fags that make threads bragging about the number of exclusives they have with crying Wojaks. Grow the fuck up, you child.
>>342236796
>game deserves to fail cause it goes multiplat
Ironically, this chimp mentality is why consoles and console-centric genres such as JRPGs are failing. Because you're busy fighting internally within the same fanbases instead of enjoying the whole genre.
Speaking of deserving shit, you fully deserve the downfall of the games you are droning for. Try just playing videogames next time.
>>342236585
This.
a 3rd party JRPG is not a system seller, partially because you know it may not be exclusive forever.
System sellers are like zelda, smash, uncharted (if you liked that series anyway), halo (though that won't sell xboxes anymore now that they're all going to be on PC too).. first or second party games that are exclusive to the console manufacturer's platforms (which for microsoft includes windows 10)
>>342236848
That's nice, but you're still missing the point. This isn't an action game, this is a JRPG. You have multiple characters, and several different skills to attack with.
I'd like to see you play FF13-3 with keyboard and mouse. Oh, wait, it's physically impossible.
>>342237231
Why is this bad? Why should console owners buy a $60 game when a $20 version will come months later? Square is making the decision to do this, they should live with the consequences.
>>342237034
If you buy a $50 game on Steam the dev gets more money than if you buy a $50 game on PSN though. You know that, right? That's why consoles are relatively cheap.
Also, some Japanese devs sell their games outside of Steam. You can find some Ys games, Neptunias, Grandia or TitS among the others on GOG.
>>342237118
>their sales aren't as high as console sales most of the time
To be fair, sometimes it's because PC gets a port a year later. Some PC gamers do have other platforms and/or friends who do.
>>342225743
I haven't played the series since the sequel on the psp. Can somebody tell me what did i miss? I remember faintly that the protagonist was the child of the MC from the first game and that he took the girl on the space ship. What happens from there?
>>342237661
Don't forget piracy.
>>342237489
>You have multiple characters, and several different skills to attack with
>it's physically impossible
Unbelievable.
I refuse to believe someone just typed this.
You know that cRPGs with realtime combat, party system with shitton of skills exists, right?
THOSE are actually physially impossible on a controller because of pinpoint accuracy and high input speeds with hotkey commands.
>>342225743
>considering
Would be a mistake no way they would pay for DRM and this game is prime pirate bait.
>>342237110
just for arguement I went through my library and games I want in the near future, 2013 releases and on.
40 games I own or will own, 28 have PC versions, 70%, 8 are Wii U exclusive, 20%, and 4 not on PC or Wii U (3 exclusive to PS4) for the last 10%... Okay, that's slightly more in favor, but still, having 90% of the games you want available with PC+Nintendo doesn't really scream "I absolutely must have a PS4!"
If some of those get PC ports.. that number drops.
>>342240185
Thankfully that problem won't persist since all devs will die off for catering to PC.
>>342238069
You could probably do a RTWP on a console if you tried hard enough. It'd be a pain in the ass and probably not very fun for the vast majority of people (also, who the fuck would want it?) but you could do it.
>>342237962
>>342238301
Even during the previous gen, when X360, PS3 and Wii games could be pirated, good games sold well. Look at The Witcher 3. It doesn't have any DRMs. You could literally buy it on GOG, download the installer and give it to your friends and they'd be able to play it. And look at the sales.
Of course that doesn't mean piracy isn't a problem, but the matter is too complicated to predict how ridding the industry of piracy would actually affect the sales.
I myself pirate games I'm not sure about (especially if they will even run on my PC) and uninstall if they're bad or buy if they're good.
I had to wait a year for Lords of the Fallen to be cracked and then after having pirated, I bought it.Then after two hours the game turned out to be shit, but that's a different matter.
>>342230539
> Japnese games
> PC gaming "industry"
You mean the indie game and AAA port industry?
>>342240448
The devs make more profit off a digital PC sale than they do a physical retail sale, so you can fuck right off.
Steam takes 30%, that means 70% goes to the developer and overhead costs of physical media and packaging are gone.
For a console, first, the dev/publisher pays microsoft/sony a $10 licensing fee to have their game on the console. That is passed on to the consumer, next you do have physical media and packaging costs, say about $5 per game.
Third, retailers make about $20 per $60 game, so there's your 30% cut same as steam.
So.. for a physical console version sale, the overhead costs being $15, and the chunk taken by the retailer being $20, The publisher makes $25 per console copy of the game sold at $60. Mind you this is simplifying because I'm sure distribution chains take other bites.
PC over steam.. 30% cut goes to Valve, they are the distributor and retailer at the same time, , no licensing fee, no physical packaging or media. It's just Digital SKU's they produce no overhead cost per copy of the game Sell it for $60, Valve gets $20, you get $40. hell, sell it for $50, Valve gets $17, you get $33, still more profit than selling on console.
>>342241691
I meant people will just get the cheap/free version of the game since they betray consoles.
Well that's one less sales from me and several less reasons to get a PS4.
Day one pirate.
Is it okay that I instantly canceled my preorder for it on PS4? And will either pirate it or buy it for cheap on gog for PC later on?
I feel angry that this is coming to PC but I don't exactly know why, I was ready to pay full price for the game but now I barely want to support it. I am pissed now but I don't really have a reason why
>>342241929
>>342242072
>>342242381
Don't let anyone tell you that you are wrong.
>>342241929
>betray
>actually having loyalty to a console manufacturer and having brand loyalty to them
I don't have a goldface reaction image good enough for this
See, PC.. we buy our parts modular, we have no real brand loyalty. Oh some people may favor nvidia or AMD, but most people, are open to either and basically who's better flip flops as time goes around AMD cards having driver issues, the NVIDIA cards overheating, etc.
So people take a look at their budget, and buy the hardware that gives them the best performance value for their budget. They build a frankenstein monster out of the parts. They might have an AMD based card, with an Intel CPU, but hey the Card wasn't even really manufactured by AMD, it was manufactured by some 3rd party company, using AMD's GPU.
There is very little brand loyalty in our world. We get what works best for the price we can afford. There's nothing to betray.
>>342225743
>Are people used to playing on PC with a game pad in Europe?”
is he fuckign retarded?
just make a dumb control scheme like ds and release it on pc with gamepad support
;)
>>342242918
Blah blah blah
Square will never get a cent from my pocket.
>>342241929
The devs have no obligations in being "faithful" to a platform. In fact, it is a retarded concept.
>>342242072
>>342242381
In case you're not shitposting, there's something wrong with you, not with the devs.
Also, Square doesn't release games on GOG for some reason.
>>342230647
>90% of people playing on PC dont ever use controllers
lol
>>342243068
I'll probably buy it later on but it's not on my radar as of now.
>>342243068
There's something wrong with Sony letting consoles getting irrelevant.
>>342243438
The only way for consoles to be relevant to the entire market in this day and age is to have a bunch of excellent exclusives.
The problem is that those big exclusives are starting to cost more and more money to make, whereas porting and making your games multi-platform as opposed to single-platform is getting cheaper and cheaper.
Console developers need to have great first party developers and/or exclusive contracts with third party developers. The problem is that those are also getting less profitable in this day and age.
That doesn't mean consoles are irrelevant, they will still occupy 90% of gaming, because the majority of people want to pay less than half the price of a PC to get a console that can play their games.
It does, however, mean that the idea of PC's and Consoles competing against each other is becoming more and more ridiculous.
>>342244438
>because the majority of people want to pay less than half the price of a PC to get a console that can play their games.
Well, guess fucking what.
The price advantage will soon be meaningless. It's already has ever since they forces you to pay for online in fact.
Consoles are getting irrelevant and this fucking sucks. I hate how Sony doesn't even try to give the devs actual insensitives to stay exclusive.
>>342229543
This is true. A gamepad is neccesary to play ports because they are not ported well. Keyboard + mouse is a much more powerful control method for all action games, whether first or third person, if anybody bothers to implement such controls.
>>342225743
SFM when?
>>342245335
Now that they made money this gen, next gen they can get cell back and devs will be forced to.
>>342244438
>The only way for consoles to be relevant to the entire market in this day and age is to have a bunch of excellent exclusives.
Not really. I'm a mustard, but there are people who'd just rather play on consoles. It's a matter of preferences really.
>>342246460
That's why I said "to the entire market"
As I say later in that post, they will always be the majority.
