Never forget
Ganondorf did nothing wrong
I bet a whole lot of Gerudo peggin' went down in there.
>>342208505
>those poor, poor criminals!
when will this mentality finally die
Shadow Temple... Here is gathered Hyrule's bloody history of greed and hatred...
>>342209217
When the good guys stop flogging a dead horse and writing it off as patriotism probably.
>>342209417
>that eye
>>342208505
If anything, it was probably the Shieka who did the dirty work either in secret or not. There's always the possibility the royal family had no idea just what the Shieka did in order to keep the royal family safe.
>>342209635
Shieka are literally illuminati.
>royal family has been beset by ungodly evil since before the founding of their country
>We're upset that they killed some murder beasts to keep Hyrule safe.
>>342209742
>who is Impa?
They knew
>>342208505
I wanna know who the fuck thought it was a good idea to build a town right above an ancient cursed torture dungeon.
Once a upon a time in Hyrule, there was a man of the Sheikah who lived in Kakariko Village who had the ability to see things that were invisible to the naked eye. With this ability, he enjoyed going to the graveyard to converse with the spirits of the dead. One day he met the soul of a man who in his past life was a member of a musical troupe where he would play the bongos. The man was so talented that people nicknamed him as Bongo Bongo. However Bongo Bongo had a dark secret in that he was a murderer who enjoyed torturing his victims. For many years, he killed people, going about the murders in a slow and brutal fashion until one day, he decided to sneak into Hyrule Castle and murder a member of the royal family and he was successful in doing so. However he wasn't successful in getting away with the murder and was eventually captured by Hyrule's Royal guard.. For his crimes, the hands he used to play the bongos and commit murders were severed, he was later executed by beheading.
>>342210631
With his insatiable blood lust during his life time however, Bongo Bongo's spirit managed to remain tied to the world of the living instead of moving on to the afterlife, his spirit gradually grew more and more malevolent until one day, he managed to possess the Sheikah man he met in the graveyard. Using his body, Bongo Bongo proceeded to go back to his murderous ways and built an elaborate dungeon underneath the man's home where he would kidnap citizens and travelers in Kakariko and bind, torture and kill them. After many years of committing murders, Bongo Bongo's reign of terror would come to an end once again when his spirit was exorcised from the man's body by a young Impa and several others. Because of how immense the dark power of Bongo Bongo's spirit was, the majority of it had to be contained in one of the Sheikah man's body parts and removed. The spirit was placed within one of the man's eyes and removed from his head while the remainder was infused into a Sheikan made magnifying glass named the Lens of Truth for it's ability to see the hidden and the invisible, both were placed deep within the dungeon. Over time however, Bongo Bongo's spirit grew even more in power and started to transform the corpses of the people he murdered, turning them into redeads. To prevent the redeads from causing any havoc to Kakariko and Bongo Bongo from exerting even more power, a seal was placed by way of a monster named the Dead Hand. The Sheikah man's home was subsequently demolished and the hole leading to the dungeon was filled with water and turned into the well you now see today. Bongo Bongo remained sealed in the well for many years until one day, Link came along and broke the seal.
>>342210706
After Bongo Bongo was first sealed, the Sheikah man was still feeling influences of the evil spirit's power within him as evident by his glowing red eye, feeling him with murderous thoughts, the man decided to leave Kakariko to avoid being driven insane by his power and going back to committing murders. One day, Adult Link meets a man in the ruined Hyrule Castle town who likes to collect spirits, this man is in fact the same Sheikah man from Kakariko. The bongos you hear playing in the music when you're in the building and the glowing red eye emanating from his hood is a reminder of his history with Bongo Bongo.
Continuing with the story, Kid Link journeyed through the now dilapidated dungeon to obtain the Lens of Truth infused with both Bongo Bongo's power and the Sheikah's man ability to see what was hidden in order to find his way through the Shadow Temple, during which, he kills the Dead Hand and breaks the seal keeping Bongo Bongo's power at bay. The spirit gradually started to regain some of his power and grew even more powerful over the course of time which went unnoticed for years. During the 7 year gap, Bongo Bongo's power evolved to the point that it become very overwhelming, his power seeped out of the well, making Kakariko's citizens sick and disrupting the atmosphere which caused a few small fires and corroded buildings. The town responded to this by sealing his power again only this time, the dungeon was also sealed up with rocks to prevent someone from getting back inside and breaking the seal.
>>342210785
Several years later however, with the dark influence of Ganondorf's power emanating through all of Hyrule, Bongo Bongo's spirit managed to break the seal on it's own and mutate, taking on a physical yet blob like form. The spirit then rushed through the dungeon to escape it causing several fires to the buildings in Kakariko in the process as you'll see later in the game. He manages to escape to the Shadow Temple and used it's power to transform into a large and invisible human like form with the glowing red eye of the Sheikah man as it's head. Impa trekked into the temple on her own to try and seal the spirit once again however she couldn't see the creature and couldn't contain it's immense power and thus was mortally wounded by it. Link would eventually journey deep into the temple and with the sword of evil's bane, defeat the evil spirit once and for all and Impa would become the sage of shadow.
>>342209635
Guess who else wore the Shieka symbol?Ever since I was a kid, my theory was that Aghanim is actually a Shieka who betrayed the royal family, but I've seen no official material that supports this other than his manner of dress.
>>342210631
>>342210706
>>342210785
>>342210842
Nice
>>342209217
Thieves I can forgive. Some people just needs to get by man.
But murderers? Rapists? Fucked up shit like that? Yeah they kind of deserve it.
>>342208505
The one thing I miss about Ocarina is the scary as fuck atmosphere. No other Zelda game has felt as unnerving or spooky. Maybe it was all the fog any creepy early 3D technology.
>>342210914
Doesn't Zelda say he was the royal wizard for fucking ever but suddenly went crazy and started abducting the princesses? I thought it was implied that Agahnim was possessed, not just ganon in disguise
>>342211228
Or the skeletons, blood, foreboding music, and just under the surface dark implications.
EH
>>342211426
>tfw that is the voice of the damned
>>342210631
>>342210706
>>342210785
>>342210842
Cool story bro
>>342211316
In the manga he starts out as a good wizard who basically makes a pact with the devil (Ganon) to break the seal of the sages in exchange for magical powers. He betrays Link's parents and sends them to the dark world when Link's father discovers his obsession with the dark world.
>>342211228
Why is low-poly so fucking successful and being unnerving?
REH
>>342211228
>>342211853
It wasn't just the spooky parts. Ocarina and MM both did atmosphere in a way no Zelda before or since has pulled off. I do think the N64's mix of strengths and limitations had an impact on that but it was something else too.
Everything about them just feels so mystical, legendary, and fairy tale-like. Like every new area you go to, you're turning the page of weighty old tome and it's creaking delightfully as you do it.
>>342211853
Imagination.
The game gives you the setting and atmosphere like >>342212408 said and you fill out the blanks
>>342210631
>>342210706
>>342210785
>>342210842
This shit is nice.
>>342211853
The same reason pixel graphics are creepy. When you see an abstraction of something creepy, your imagination fills in the blanks.
>>342210208
I can't be the only one who didn't even think she was supposed to be a man.
>>342211228
How was it spooky at all you psussies? I played OOT and MM for the first time on 3ds and I never once was scared. Everything was beautiful and colorful
>>342212692
Yeah I guess you could say it feels "incomplete" or kind of like watching claymation. It has a certain feel to it. Kind of hard to explain.
>>342213020
Seemed pretty clear that was what they were going for, but I knew it was Zelda in disguise the first time she showed up.
>>342213149
There's a difference between being scared and finding something spooky. Also, most people here played OoT and MM as kids. Good job outing yourself as a child.
The 3DS versions also adjusted the lighting so that most, if not all areas were brighter. That said, they still capture most of the atmosphere of the originals. You should be able to appreciate their eeriness without being "scared."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GbYWbFHC-B8
>>342213290
>There's a difference between being scared and finding something spooky. Also, most people here played OoT and MM as kids. Good job outing yourself as a child.
Ah so it's nostalgia , gotcha.
>>342213305
EH REH is one of the few truly timeless memes.
>>342211075
>>342211604
>>342212797
Just something I thought up a few days ago. I originally had a theory that the poe collector was supposed to be the human form of Bongo Bongo during the early stages of game development and would transform into the monstrosity you see now but there's no info to back that up
>>342213305
But who was Majora?
>>342213165
>Hook and upgraded Hook together
>>342213305
This is some unsettling shit.
>>342208505
the royal family doesnt judge you for your fetishes anon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FLQ_h_LaqA
>>342213504
What? It's as simple as children are easier to scare and even when you grow out of whatever used to scare you it's not like you forget it did at some point
>>342213553
Majora was an being chasing the Shieka down but got trapped in a mask to prevent him from eradicating them.
>>342213553
majora is one of those meme creatures from twilight princess that some how escaped the shadow world by being a mask.
the mask seller can travel between the parallel universes.
>>342210842
>>342210785
>>342210706
>>342210631
pic related
so as it turns out, zelda has the deepest lore. source on this?
>>342213879
>the mask seller can travel between the parallel universes.
And how the fuck he pulls that off?
>>342210631
>>342210706
>>342210785
>>342210842
But hey! That's just a theory!A Game Theory!
>>342213946
Magic.
>>342213946
He has a mask for that.
>>342213946
don't ask questions, it's just there for plot hole reasons.
the mask seller just can.
>>342213946
by being god
I played Ocarina of Time on my N64 as a child, and I didn't know a word of english. I finished the game without knowing a single thing of the story.
Should I play it again and enjoy it? Is it worth it? I like speaking to every character and stuff
>>342213546
Thoughts on the bored hylian soldier being a sheikah?
>>342213305
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuTvz0yBoFE&list=FLKF-rAXPvPs7o9qs2DtKJNQ&index=14
>>342213946
>>342211853
imagination
same reason why the early fallout games with their shit graphics and text descriptions give a bettersense of the wasteland than its 3D successors
same reasons thati've came literally buckets over the years to CoC
>>342213946
memes
>why the fuck not
>>342213946
he is a deity like Demise
>>342214030
Yes. Do it.
>>342214037
Maybe, I also saw a theory floating around that the poe collector is the king of hyrule.
>>342214030
It's a Nintendo game. 90% of it is inane filler.
>>342214157
DEEPEST LORE
My theory always was that the Hyrule Family took over the land the Sheikah lived on.
Some of the Sheikah rebelled the occupation, specifically the Man Who Could See the Truth. He tortured and killed Hylians in revenge for the occupation.
When his crimes were revealed, this caused a huge panic among the Hylians. They built the Shadow Temple as a prison to house him, and he was the first to be executed. Sadly, he was not the last, and the panic led to most of the Sheikah being killed.
Eventually they brokered a peace, and instead the Sheikah became the royal guards of the very people who slaughtered them.
>>342213559
>Adult Link without the Ocarina of Time.
>>342214172
Hum, unless he survived Ganondorf assassinating him.... 'cause that's what happened right? Then Impa ran off with Zelda?
>>342214293
IMO Sheikah are Hyrulians that stole the Twili knowledge in magic and created the Wicked dynasty we have now
But Ganondolf killed them all during the events of OoT
so he really did nothing wrong
The shadow temple most likely refers to the Hyrulean civil war.
Kakariko is most likely built on what used to be an old POW site, used by any of the factions. I don't actually think that the royal family are evil or that Hyrule is totalitarian.
>>342210631
>>342210706
>>342210785
>>342210842
Gonna screenshot this in case I want to post it in another Zelda thread
>>342214394
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lgmPa6RUfR0
>>342214569
Always figured they were like any medieval family.
So vile, but so is everyone else.
>>342208505
>Nintendo will never put anything like this into Zelda again
>>342214569
orly
>>342214804
I always thought that Death Sword was the former executioner of Arbiter's Grounds, and was executed himself (for whatever reason) by hanging (thus explaining all the ropes tying down his sword, and his fucked up neck).
>>342213290
>>342213504
I found the 3ds version to be to bright in my opinion. I know its needed for 3ds but the n64 version felt more darker, not to mention i recall the blood stains being removed in the shadow/well and ganons fight too bright.
>>342214973
I loved that boss battle.. but nah, I'm mostly sure those are just tying the sword down and littered with purifying seals to keep the demon in place. I like that theory though, of him being a former executioner.
>>342214157
NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE
>>342215110
Yeah I noticed that too... same for MM3D, they changed the atmosphere a lot.
>>342214625
...This actually happens ingame? That's unsettling as fuck.
Why does Nintendo have the deepest lore? How do they do it?
>>342210914
Razputin confirmed
>>342215497
>tfw be a kid
>beating OoT my favorite game ever for the umpteenth time
>haha I already know this game so I don't feel pressured to follow the story
>I'll just explore this back alley
>explore this back alley
>back alley
>>342209217
Just make them rot in a cell, what's even the point of wasting resources on torturing them?
>>342214804
what's so bad about arbiter grounds?
>>342215497
I KNOW RIGHT?? Most people never saw that but the moment I heard about it I had to see it for myself- started the whole game over just for that. He disappears after you go to the temple of time, I think.
>>342215697
They're a prison/execution grounds on a desert formerly inhabited by a presumed extinct race of thieves
>>342215697
It's a Colosseum. People were tortured in those for the amusement of the upper class, and given how the royal crest is plastered all over the place, and there's a lot of rooms that hint at there being interrogations/torture on top of the Gerudo being pretty much nonexistent in TP....
>>342208505
They kidnap men and take them to their Gerudo rape caves.
>>342215829
>>342215914
I mean...some of the pretty red heads have to be alive somewhere...right?
Who is she?
>>342215110
No, the blood stains are still there, they're just a little faded now to imply they're not as fresh. Odds are, they were "fresher" in the original to help stand out in the original lighting.
>>342216003
gerudo are dolphins?...or would zoras be a more accurate analogy.
>>342216139
>only oldfags can understand this the post
![latest[7].png](https://i.imgur.com/LGOqapE.jpg "latest[7].png")
>>342216056
Han Solo
>>342216056
Who knows but fun fact. You know that stature inside the temple you used the mirror shield on? ...the cheeky bastards at nintendo made the nipples hookshot able.
>>342216046
There were plenty of redheaded hylians too.
>>342215623
>somebody kidnaps a kid
>not torturing them to find out where they hid the kids
Sometimes criminals just need a good spankingand mass torture for the serious crimes.
>>342216056
A lesser goddess of some kind, like Hylia was.
I think people get that confused a lot too. Hylia is a lesser god compared to the Three. She's a god of the Sky and that's it.
It would be interesting if this was the God of the Earth
>>342211206
>Some people just needs to get by man.
How about they just get a fucking job?
>>342216232
Did anyone actually take the time to find all the spiders or did they do the glitch?
>>342216056
Could be the first Gerudo woman, aka, the first to ride the Groose train to pound-town.
>>342216056
The Goddess.
The Gerudo don't believe Zelda to be the incarnation of the Goddess,you know, much like jews don't believe Jesus to be the son of God
>>342216302
>there are as many jobs as there are human beings in the world
>any job you get pays enough that thievery isn't worth it
>>342216275
There is literally nothing wrong with the death penalty.
Liburuls are just fucking suckers.
>>342216280
Goddess of Time, you mean- I mean look at this- there she is on the clock.
>>342216494
Yes, Time. What am I thinking Sky for. She's associated with Birds and has Angel wings, maybe that's why I was thinking that. But yeah, Time.
So we need a Space for the opposite of that. Hmm.
>>342216056
wait...
What if Link was Gerudo
>>342216701
I don't like it.
>>342216575
You know what FLIES when you're having fun~?
yeah. time.
>>342216227
Well, hookshot icons look like nipples, so makes sense.
>>342216802
You know, sometimes I think that Nintendo had more of an idea about the whole timeline thing then we realize.
That, or else they just got really lucky and had more then enough material that was loosely connected that when they looked back on it, they were like
>Yeah, this will totally work
Either way, I'm glad.
>>342214008
>inb4 he takes the mario mask and travels through dimensions by using pipes
>>342213553
While not very spooky, I REALY loved the explanation at the end of the manga.
>>342216701
lewd
>>342217006
which is?
>>342216494
Am I suppose to see a face?
>>342216802
>tattle is the goddess of time
>whitish gold color just like hylia
>tattle is literally the termina version of hylia
>hylia is sweet while tatl is assertive
>Tale is dark colored like demise
>submissive instead of dominating
it all makes sense now.
>>342217047
I only see wings
>>342217203
why oh why didn't ruto get a normal shaped head like other zora...
>>342216898
Honestly? I think it started out they didn't have a plan for it, but as they kept making games it became their baby and it snowballed- Ideas formed, general story and a written language later, they decided to thread them together JUST enough to be sneaky and lay down some hints, but still be solitary enough to let the games stand on their own.
>>342210706
>shiekah just sand back and let an insane spirit posess one of their own and torture-murder people IN THEIR OWN FRONT YARD, for unknown decades, before Impa comes along
Sorry senpai, I don't buy it
>>342217368
she's a superior zora, much like bees and queen bees
>>342217047
Okay, the yellow things are the wings, the red circle thing is the head and shoulders- how we typically see Hylia depicted.
>>342216701
i like it
>>342217443
>
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/7ikUT0C.png "latest[1].png")
>>342217368
Not to mention the King Zora. He doesn't even look like the same species.
>>342217442
But that weirdly shaped head and extra eyes are so off putting.
>>342217509
That clock wasn't made by the Gerudo
>>342217368
She's clearly a mom-zora. what with the eyes on the back of her head.
>>342217538
for you
>>342217028
http://mangafox.me/manga/the_legend_of_zelda_majora_s_mask/v01/c000/185.html
>>342217597
Ok I laughed.
>>342217659
And then i cringed.
>>342214625
>NicholasDaisy “NicholasDaisyAwesss” Awesomeness1 year ago
>He died.
>NicholasDaisy “NicholasDaisyAwesss” Awesomeness1 year ago
>I like this youtube video!
So uhh...the well in oot is where bongo bongo escaped from right? Zelda sends link back in time so...this thing could potentially break loose at any time...in future game technically.
>>342217597
Carlooos!
>>342217879
no
the bottom of the well is where the Royal Family sent all those who opposed them
expecially that guy that found the lens of truth
>>342216232
shit, now i realize that this fuckers are very similar to the happy mask salesman.
>>342218016
No, Impa tells you that the Well was where the spirit of an evil man had been sealed away, and that Ganondorf broke the seal.
You see Bongo-Bongo rise out of the Well in a cutscene
>>342218179
>bongo bongo has the highest HP of any boss in oot
for what reason?
>>342216701
These gerudo girls are cute, CUTE !
>>342217509
I'm pretty sure she's a separate and forgotten goddess, typically depicted with a snek.
>>342218290
>Gerudo regularly kidnap Hyrule men to be sex slaves for their breeding program
>>342218179
>evil man
>>342218304
we must go deeper
>>342218179
>bongo bongo is finally released from his prison in kakariko village
>can literally go anywhere to wreck havok
>stays in kakariko village and hangs out in the graveyard.
Just...
>>342218486
I had the official nintendo power guide when I was a kid, I remember it saying something about the gerudo worshipping this goddess? MUCH SACRED. VER SECRIT.
Maybe she's a goddess of balance.
>>342214293
>They built the Shadow Temple as a prison to house him, and he was the first to be executed.
>building an elaborate temple full of traps and a fucking built in river that likely took decades to cobble together as a prison for one guy when you can throw him in a musty cell guarded by a guy with a pointy piece of metal and be done with it
>>342213290
Not that anon, but seriously
WHOOSH
>>342218437
o_________o ohgodno
>>342216346
>Groose was redheaded
>Ganondorf was redheaded
>In Skyward Sword Groose was essentially the third member of your gang
>Demise not only cursed you and Zelda, but Groose's lineage as wellCOULD MOZART STILL BE ALIVE?!
>>342219694
YES. Because Groose did play a huge part in beating Demise.
Plus he has pretty golden eyes much like every other gerudo.
>>342219915
>>342216242
>torture is a viable way to extract information
It is not, if someone kidnaps the kid he either has a demand or has done horrible things with it, either way, torturing them will very rarly serve in retrieving the kid, because if it was an extortion you wont find the mastermind without the kid, and if it was a child abusing monster they would more likely give you false information to spite you as revenge for their demise by your hands once it becomes clear that the child is most likely dead.
If it was a simple retard that took a child, the simple threat of violence should make them cooperate, so there is only a tiny percentage of cases in which the torture might or might not yield actual useable information.
>>342216302
If crime would not pay there would be no crime, or even a concept thereof.
>>342213946but first
>>342210914
Learn to actually spell the names you talk about. You sound like a retard. Why not throw Gannon in there too while you are at it.
>>342220427
>He used the Mario mask to travel between universes
DEEPEST LORE
>>342219694
>he's the power of the group
legit laughs if demise also cursed groose. Him being the forefather of all gerudo and ganondorf himself would be amazing.
>>342214157
MIND BLOWN.
Once, in a forgotten place a long time ago
There lived an acorn wizard who used his powers of Acronmancy to feed himself.
However, he did not know that the acorns he was eating was embued with his magic
He began to grow lethargic as his home and village began to become overgrown with plant and tree life. His skin turned to wood, and he eventually became rooted to the ground. There he would remain, a great tree that produced Deku nuts, in a village of forest dwelling midgets.
>>342220642SUCHDEEP
>>342220970
Okay but think about this:
>SS Zelda had to have a lot of COURAGE to do what she did.What with following Impa through all those temples, and then seal herself away with the hopes that Link would wake her up in a thousand years.
>Groose was lead by WISDOM under the aged and wise eyes of "Granny".Keep in mind that airhead had to build that confounded contraption and rail system what blew up Demise with bombs, and he matured quite a lot from the beginning of the game to the end.
>Link had to obtain more POWER.He was a weak little shit what slept in a lot, even Impa yelled at him for not being what Zelda needed him to be. The link we started out with was by far much stronger than the one we fought demise with.
Power isn't evil, it's how you use it.
>>342213926
that anon's asshole
>>342221948
*correction,The link we started out with was by far much WEAKER than the one we fought demise with.
I had that backwards. I need to get to bed lol
I really want the masks to return on BoW. Any hint at all that this is going to happen?
>>342217047
I see loss.
>>342218437
YOU GONNA HEAR ME BEFORE YOU SEE ME
>>342209635
I don't remember those kind of torches being there i'm pretty sure it was the black wire-frame kind, whats going on here
>>342213946
he is miyamoto, the creator of the zelda universe, so he can go where he wants
I really want to have sex with a zora. I hope they return in BoW.
>>342216701
>Ganondorf
Then Link would be the hiccup in the whole "Only one Gerudo male born every 100 years" deal.
>>342218304
While the series does have Gods in it, that doesn't mean that every big God statue/mural/etc depicts a God that actually exists in universe.
>>342222792
game set in WW timeline. all zoras are now bird mailmen
>>342214625
It doesn't help that the section has literally Resident Evil tier pre-rendered backgrounds, it's like they built the whole area to be a horror section, the worst part is that you can still hear the happy music of the market going.
>>342220327
>so there is only a tiny percentage of cases in which the torture might or might not yield actual useable information
So torture is perfectly viable in some cases and sometimes not.
>>342218402
I.
HAD.
SNU-SNU!
>>342222632
A lot of things from different timelines have been referenced,there's bound to be something majora related.
>yfw there is an npc wearing majora's mask that wanders the world like the Bigfoot in gta
>yfw he's incredibly difficult to even find,yet at the same time he'll sometimes be watching you from a distance
>>342213946
By using his Stand, Dirty Deeds Done Dirt Cheap
>>342222867
Sheik described the statue as a "Goddess of the Sand".
https://youtu.be/zh68l3ehnXQ?t=31
>>342222841
Or that Link was adopted by the Gerudo like how OoT Link was adopted by the Kokiri. As you can tell by the blond hair and light skin. Probably so when he's of age they can use him to have more Gerudo children.
>>342223025
Calm down edgemaster
>>342222930
>world became an ocean
one would think the Zora would easily rule the world for obvious reasons
>decide to "evolve" into birds
Did they racemix with humans?
>>342223094
S P O O K E D
>>342223109
why is part 7 so much better than the rest?
>>342223141
Yeah, I'm just saying that not every God shown (Okay shown isn't the best word here but I'm about to head to bed, tired as fuck after night shift) in the series actually exists in universe. For all we know that Sand Goddess could be the Zelda universe's version of Glycon.
>he didn't spend time as a kid checking out the culturally unique scripts that appear on objects in certain dungeons
Ocarina is fucking creepy.
I remember crying the first time I went into Hyrule field and it turned dark, handing the control off to my dad and begging him to go back to Saria.
>>342223405
Maybe, but you never know- it might be another earmark Nintendo hasn't made a game for yet. We might find out more in BotW.
>>342223732
>Tfw it took you 5 years to beat the Well
>>342217047
Looks like an old man with a beard wearing blue clothes.
>>342223732
Ocarina doesn't get enough credit in the enemy design department.
It's the only game where dodongos are part frog, people turn into spiders, a boss literally gives birth on the ceiling and a Ameoba can throw you into a wall.
>>342223186
they were forced to evolve by the gods since a zora could easily swim to the bottom of the ocean and find old hyrule, which the gods wanted to keep a secret
>>342224630
*Zelda game
>>342223241
Because of justice.
>>342222694
KING KONG
wake up Link...
more blood is needed...
>>342223094
What if hewatches you from the lod and far end of the loaded area, and sprints away at really high speed if you get too close?
>>342224647
>>342223186
I like that explanation. That or they were freshwater fish people, and felt confined being stuck on single islands.
>>342224076
what
I was 9 and it took me 4 months for the whole game.
>>342212408
>both did atmosphere in a way no Zelda before or since has pulled off
I thought LttP/LA/Oracles had a similar atmosphere. Shame they scrapped that aspect for Wind Waker onwards.
>>342213305
anyone have the orchestra version that was made on Vocaroo when this was first discovered? The link is dead.
>>342210510
The Shadow Temple is actually behind Kakariko
Still doesn't explain the torture well though.
>>342211316
More or less. I always thought calling him Ganon's "alter-ego" was just poor wording, but they didn't seem to fix it in the GBA version if I recall. If Ganon was Agnahim the entire time then why did he even have to break the seal if he was there already?
Shit's silly.
>>342227471
Dampe's mausoleum thing wraps around into Kakariko's windmill too. Like literally no transition, not even a door so a zombie could just fly in and eat the Windmill Guy.
What fucked up place.
>>342214157
DELETE THIS
>>342222694
>>342225060
>There are still people who are triggered by that video to this day.
>Those fucking comments.
Jadusable please, never stop what you're doing here.
>>342223094
>>342225885
>There are skull children who watch you in the forest but as they don't like adults they'll sprint away when you get too close.
>>342219694
fuck off
it's been like a thousand something years
there's no way I could be alive, that's just fucking retarded
>>342229318
Only 400 or so, Motzy
I don't like Majora's Mask.
Time limits trigger me.
>>342213946
it would be extremely painful
>>342211228
Nah, it and MM had the best atmosphere in the series by a long shot. It was a great balance of grand, light-hearted, adventurous fantasy and extremely dark, eerie and melancholy fridg-horror shit.
Keep in mind that Koizumi was also around during their development. I believe he was a large contributing factor to that, along with Kondo's great tracks.
>>342213149
You played the 3DS versions. The 3DS versions suck a lot of the original atmosphere of the games, honestly. Go play them on an emulator, and make sure you get the uncensored version of OoT before doing so.
>>342213553
Majora wasa physical representation of Link's inner demons.[/spoiler[
>>342220327
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_MKUltra
You just don't know what torture is.
>>342231521
>The 3DS versions suck a lot of the original atmosphere of the games
Love this meme.
Since we're talking atmosphere in this thread, anyone have a gut feeling that BoTW will be absolutely amazing in the gameply department, but will utterly fail in the atmosphere, immersion and music department?
An ambient soundtrack worries me and these enemy designs are already giving me SS vibes again for how cartoonish they look. I'm also concerned that the story will be significantly dumbed down and cheery to make up for the free will and exploration of the game. Also because this is neo-Nintendo, and neo-Nintendo doesn't like to challenge its players in anything now, story or emotional complexity or included.
>>342217597
I don't get it
>>342232252
Maybe Anon, but I'm gonna feast on it for years, see every single rock, raid every last bokoblin camp, and read every shred of dialog- and I'll fucking enjoy doing it.
>>342223094
>yfw BoW will be the Turn A Gundam of Zelda
>>342234045
Will Link is looking a bit more Loranish than usually...you might have a point.
>>342223094
No joke, I would love to see some GTA-tier mysteries in this game.
>>342218856
Following this dude's theory. It'd be more of a 'fuck you' to the shiekahs and anyone else trying to rebel.
Throwing a guy in a cell: eh, he's in prison no biggie
Torture dungeon: holy shit fuck this they're fucking insane
>>342223165
I alway thought of the Gerudo Link scenario as something like the prince of egypt, he is taken by Ganondorf's mother and grows up with him as a brother, but eventually leaves as Ganondorf becomes too absorbed on his role of king
>>342216280
She actually is considered a Sand Goddess.
There is a theory that it's supposed to be Din.
when did native americans become apart of Zelda's lore?
>>342218258
Probably because he's pretty easy.
I will admit, he wrecked my shit numerous times in the 3DS version of master quest.
He fucking hurts.
>>342235079
Nayru the Goddess of Time (Light)
Farore the Goddess of Wind (Forest)
Din the Goddess of Sand (Spirit)
>Lanayru the Thunder Dragon (Sky/Light)
>Eldin the Fire Dragon (Fire)
>Faron the Water Dragon (Water)
This gives us this.
>Nayru
Sages of Light
>Din
Sages of Fire and Spirit
>Farore
Sages of Forest and Water
Nayru is associated with Shadow in some way, this fits a duality theme of Light and Shadow.
>>342224630
>a boss literally gives birth on the ceiling
that happened in twilight princess too.
>>342235835
Cute!
Her name should be Sitting on My Lap.
I never played TP but it just came in the mail today
is it full of lore and mysteriousness?
>>342234996
Actually, fuck that. Own theory incoming
>>342220542
Gannon banned.
>>342236589
Quite a lot, yes.
There is going to be a cutscene before the third dungeon, just pop into a Zelda thread to discuss it if you don't understand it.
I remember when TP first came out I spent so much time trying to actively explain that cutscene to a lot of people, mostly because it's a very odd cutscene, especially for a Zelda game. Fun game though.
>>342236785
Wanna explain it to me who saw it for the first time a week or two ago and kinda understands it?
>>342216320
I glitched :D
>>342216320
http://www.strawpoll.me/3372205
>>342236785
What cutscene was that? Spoiler it for our friend above.
>>342236771
>There is a forum that is literally so autistic they'll ban you for spelling a character's name wrong.
Jesus christ.
>>342237304
the upside down illia/shadow link one
>>342236771
Fuck that's a blast from the past.
>>342236882
Alright, it's been awhile since I've played it, but I'll try my best to remember everything. I'll spoil it for the other anon.Hyrule was originally at peace before a group known as the Interlopers appeared using strong magic. They are thought to be the Sheikah due to their knowledge of the Sacred Realm/Triforce and typical use of Shadow Magic. But that is just a theory.They began to assault Hyrule and knowledge spread of the Triforce. To the point that people coveted it so much that even friends were willing to betray each other, Illia would kill Link and Link would kill Ilia for instance.Ultimately the Interlopers were defeated and sentenced at the Arbiter's Ground and sent to the Twilight Realm to become the Twili.Ultimately Link's presence as one of the Dark Links is suggested by Lanayru's warning of using the Fused Shadows, that even he is susceptible to great darkness/evil.
I think that's all that was in the cutscene beyond the creation story. It's been awhile since I've played TP, so forgive me if there is something else I'm forgetting. It's not much of a cutscene in terms of exposition and there are some weird things such as the falling Ilia, but that's generally the gist of the cutscene, that Darkness is great, the Interlopers fell, and even friends are dangerous to each other, that people would do anything for the Triforce.
>>342237304The Interloper/Dark Link cutscene
>>342237339
Man that's been a thing for ages man. I remember seeing that back in like the early 00s if I recall.
>>342220327
>the threat of violence is viable
>actual use of violence with the threat of more isn't
>>342237624
Alright I did understand it. It'd be crazy if that theory was true.
>>342216701
yfw you realize the Gerudo were a bunch ofblacks
>>342237965
have you ever seen a black person?
Gerudo were more like arabs.unless you're making a thief joke
>>342236768
Preface: the dead are respected and revered in many cultures (rightfully so in this universe)
Kakariko village: originally a shiekah village, opened to the public
>at some point during the war, a nearby point was necessary for ops to take place, and in turn, the village was forced to take on the war effort (camps, the dead, intel, etc)
Shadow temple: sheikah temple revering the dead, (seeing as it has no immediate obvious place in the hyrule goddess hierchy)
>later turned to mass graveyard and torture dungeon(hence the zillion skulls)
>bossman sheikah resents all this, but being the hyrulean army is bigger, waits
>sheikahs, probably being allied with the king, and better fighters, serve as the kings guard, also probably head things like intel and planning
>temple is bastardized into a mass grave, this angers the sheikah
>soon after, used as a intel toture dungeon, ambient atmosphere in mind
>thousands are killed and tortued
>war ends, king, aware of planned treason, imprisons head sheikah in the dungeon,
>cuts out his seeing eye, shatters both wrists, crippling him
>he is locked in the deepest pit at the bottom of the dungeon and given a drum to play so the guards know he's still alive
>eye still full of hate, resentment, and evil, studied, but feared, buried and sealed nearby, and a well built over it
Im sure im missing some things, but its a rough showerthought I had
>>342237965
I always viewed them as Middle Eastern.
They live in a desert, they had the Islamic symbol for a time, always ruled by a man, they have an obvious desert tan.
...They look like Oocca to you?
>>342238231
A curious thing about Bongo Bongo is that he was revered as a thief, and thieves typically had their hands cut off as punishment.
>>342236771
Oh man
