New Paper Mario thread
What's your favorite boss? NPC? Partner? Theme? Area?
Which of the 3 is your favorite game?
>>342190023
>Which of the 3 is your favorite game?
Don't you mean 4:^)
Wait, will spiked goombas return in CS?
Because only having them turn into folded cones was dumb as fuck.
>>342190136
Five soon, and six if you count Paper Jam.
>>342190276
Probably not, because DUDE PAPER LMAO
>>342161534
>>342184167
Ok, well I guess with these things for the time being. Enjoy all the information that's probably a bit overwhelming now.
Here's a high quality .png of it: https://a.uguu.se/HroSgBSL8D4s.png
>Best area
Glitz pit
>best Boss
General guy
>best partner
Parrakarry
>best NPC
Count Bleck, probably because I'm a sucker for a villain that redeems himself.
Favorite game is still the original, was the most consistently good
>>342190023
Koopa Bros.
Merlin
Bobbery
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AFNnlFw29q4
Glitzpit
I'm glad they decided to only make 3 games and not fuck the series up with terrible games.
reminder
if 643D brought back Star Fox (not defending shitty Zero), we can win back Paper Mario with TTYD HD.
we gotta try at least
post a better bowser theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5AZRtpTLhM
>you cant
>>342190440
>Toads again
>"Oh these are all completely different people"
>You can tell they're different because of the things they talk about
Is this bitch retarded
Post partners you'd like to see in a fangameor in a miraculous case the franchise goes back to what it was
>>342190440
>and like
>so, like
>obviously
>ya know?
I don't think this woman belongs at Nintendo. She talks like she just got of high school
>>342190909
>>342190909
>>342190440
That says that in the Club Nintendo survey, less than 1 percent said the story in super paper mario was interesting. So Nintendo listens to the feedback from fans and take away the story, but now everyone is complaining because they removed the story? What am I missing here?
>>342190964
It's hard to translate dialects properly.
>>342190909
Wouldn't that be OP against direct attackers?
>>342190023
>boss
general guy
>npcluigi
>partner
lady bow
>theme
crystal palace theme
>area
glitz pits
>favorite game
can't decide between TTYD & N64
>>342190814
The key question is do each of the toads have different names?
This is a key point.
Visually similar characters with evidently different personalities can be done, but only up to like half a dozen or so, tops.
It doesn't work as well when you have dozens of visually identical characters barring color scheme.
>>342190964
Put into consideration someone was translating her on the spot so they were probably the one saying that & it's not exactly how she speaks.Maybe, I don't know Japanese.
>>342191109
Club Nintendo wasn't exactly a popular thing in the West since it came out in 2008 while Japan had it since 2003 & Europe since 2002. It didn't pick up until a little later most likely. But hey who knows, I heard many things regarding Club Nintendo like people just bullshitting the surveys. I gave my opinion on Super's story personally & gameplay.
>>342191163
Introduce a bigger variety of ranged attackers or weapon users. Or Koopas or headbutters with helmets
>>342191290
So far the only Toad whose name you learn calls himself, and I'm not shitting you, "Toad #1"
>>342191031
>>342190573
Zero was good,it just lacked content and should of had traditional controls for those who want them
>>342190698
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Elb6A7iT6P0
>>342191163
Maybe she could have small spines, and have a special move that pumps them up for a few turns to defend the party.
The small spines could also play into the character, like s/he is embarrassed that their spines are smaller thank a regular pokey and they join the party to overcome their shyness.
>>342190440
thank you anon
>>342191381
>like s/he is embarrassed that their spines are smaller thank a regular pokey and they join the party to overcome their shyness.
This sounds lewd somehow
>Boss
Koopa Bros/Bowser?
>NPC
Kolorado
>Theme
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNZq_0kvtxk DAH-DA. NAH-NA.
>Area
The Retro world in Super Paper Mario
Repostan.
>favorite boss
Crystal King or Cortez
>Partner
Admiral Bobbery, he has some of the best lines in the game in my opinion
>Theme
Crystal King's theme or "We believe in you, Mario!"
>Area
Chapter 5 in both 64 and TTYD, I'm a sucker for island adventures.
I really love TTYD, but 64 just edges out the victory by virtue of lacking General White and the 100 "I love you" sections and anything similar. I also love SPM, but I don't replay it nearly as often as the other two.
>>342191354
This toad is the first one you see in game, right?
That seems just right out boring, in any case.
There are sub-antagonists besides Bowser and his army at least, right?
>>342191330
Ah, okay. Although, I'm still confused why so many Japs and Europeans said the story wasn't interesting, I quite enjoyed it. Maybe they did just bullshit it. :/
>>342191869
The Koopalings
And they're being shown as COMPLETELY NEW CHARACTERS, EVEN THOUGH THEY'RE JUST PAPER VERSIONS
Also, Morton is retarded now, even though Paper Jam showed he wasn't
>>342190276
THOSE HATS ARE NOT MARIO ENOUGH THEY MUST BE REPLACED WITH TOADS
>>342192006
well they are new for the PM series.also pretty surprised it was Paper Mario that went the exaggerated personalities for them and not M&L
>>342192213
New to Paper MArio, yes, but not completely new to games as a whole. They're acting like this is the first time they've ever appeared.
>>342191541
>lewd
I think it's pronounced L-lewd!(face glows bright red, with sweat dripping down face)
>>342191380
>it just lacked content and should of had traditional controls for those who want them
thank you THANK YOU
this is also why people had zero problems with the 3D remake, you had everything from Star Fox 64, the option to play it normally or the new gyros controls, and slightly expanded Multiplayer.
all they had to do is just port it in HD and add additional levels and secrets they wanted in game. and replace the shitty Gyrocopter/Direct-I levels with Roadmaster levels.
>>342191869
Yeah, the Koopalings.
I really hate those fuckers.
>>342192809
BUT MUH GIMMICKS
EVERYONE LOVES GIMMICKS
>>342193150
I feel the complete opposite about them and it makes it only slightly difficult to not get CS
>>342190023
>Boss
Rawk Hawk
>NPC
Count Bleck
>Partner
Vivian because trannies
>Theme
Rogueport
>Area
Glitzville
>>342190276
>>342192076
In Sticker Star you had Goomba's fold into pointy tips
But in Color Splash, Shy Guys (Who seem to be replacing Goomba's entirely) ARE wearing the spiked helmets
>>342191869
>>342192006
>>342192213
>>342192375
>>342193150
>>342193446
MORTON STRONG
MORTON MORE TONS
>>342191954
We don't know how the survey was worded. I seriously doubt the respondents went out of their ways to trash SPM's story. It's just another weak justification for NSMBifying the series, probably because games like SS and CS are easier to make.
>>342190023
>Favorite boss
Different feelings, for 64 it was General Guy
For TTYD, it was Cortez
For SPM it was Mr L's robot in space
In Sticker Star im tied between Petey and Gooper
>NPC
Kolorado in 64, Luigi and his stories in TTYD, Bleck was fucking great in SPM, Kamek was was an annoying cunt in SS made an even bigger cunt in Paper Jam
>Partner
No multiples, Fucking Bobbery no contest
>Theme
I like the mandatory backtracking chapter, i don't know why but i like it, Toy Box, Twilight, Space, and the Woods
>Area
Toy Box, Glitzville, The entire chapter 7 of heaven and hell in SPM, The Enigmansion, i really fucking hope Color Splash can get a good follow up to the Enigmansion, there was footage implying that there will be a new mansion
>>342193897
>>342192006
Morton isnt retarded in CS, he just talks simple, just like Paper Jam
The koopalings are fine, they were fine in Paper Jam
The problem with them being in color splash is that they look like the area bosses, Paper Jam still had major bosses that werent koopalings
>>342194204
one of the things SS did right was Kamek.
>>342194386
he definitely wasn't that stupid in Paper Jam
>>342190440
Ash was asking stupid ass questions
I don't mind that they want to use the Mushroom Kingdom Characters
The problem was that they werent creative enough
Mario has a LOT of different enemies
But Sticker Star was really weak
I want more representation similar to what paper jam did
Every area needs it's own unique enemy and not repeats.
Give me a charging chuck, a bully, the new enemies from 3D World
Atleast they are putting that dragon from Captain Toad, put the new enemies Captain Toad introduced
>>342194204
I wonder if the new mansion will be it's own thing or the last place in the area it's revealed
If it's a side thing, i can see them representing King Boo properly
>>342194204
>>342194642
In one hand, i wish kammy would come back
In the other hand, kamek was done really well in SS and PJ
>>342190023
>boss
DooPliss
>NPC
I like all of PM64's Merlon-type people just for their design
>Partner
3 way tie between Bow, Vivian, and Bobbery
>Theme
Crystal Palace
>Area
Toad Town for comfy, Glitzville for neat
>Game
TTYD by an inch
>>342193356
Let's get this one out of the way.
>>342195040
Por que no los dos?
>>342195040
They should have both, I could see the 2 arguing or something similar to how both Kamek & Paper Kamek were in Paper Jam.
>>342195163
>>342195369
>>342195040
They should have both
With kammy as the cunning planner that she was in PM64 and Kamek as the action man
>>342195369
>>342195469
what is this?
>>342195469
>Rouge
>Merladorable
>Merloukoum
>Merlie
>>342195369
Why is Homsar a wizard?
>>342193202
this is why Miyamoto needs to retire
>>342190440
But why does Colour Splash have to be so similar to Sticker Star? The game was a fucking failure.
>SMRPG
did something new and everybody loved it. Didn't get a sequel because relations soured with Square
>PM
did something new and everybody loved it
got a sequel
>Superstar Saga
did something new and everybody loved it
got multiple sequels
>SPM
did something new
sold well, but not as much as you would expect with Wii's install. Also received middling fan feedback
did not get a sequel
>Sticker Star
did something new
sold worse than SPM and score significantly lower than every other PM game
got a sequel
>>342195821
reminder that he fought with everyone at Nintendo to implement a useless feature into the 3DS. (the slider)
>>342190023
I really really like this general.
>>342195821
The gyro aiming with dual screen works though
The problem was how it was handled
Look at splatoon
>What's your favorite boss?
Koopa Bros
>NPC?
X-Nauts and Shadow Sirens. TTYD had so many crazy sub-plots plot going on in it
>Partner?
Parakarry because it's a flying koopa partner.
In TTYD I really liked Ms. Mows as a unique hidden partner that shows up in various parts of the game
>Theme?
The Glitz Pit theme will forever be stuck in my head.
>Area?
The Hub worlds of each game are amazing. Toad Town felt huge for a JRPG style town when I first played it.
>>342195821
I dont get this picture.
Neither Star Fox Zero or Breath of the Wind has you looking at the 2nd screen ever, for that exact reason. It's bad game design.
>>342193897
oh cool, the koopalings
It'll be just like NSMB Wii
and NSMB2
and NSMBU
and NSL
and M&L Paper Jam
>>342196041
what useless feature, the 3D?
>>342196278
Did you actually read it?
>>342196005
it's been stated already
Because they made it right after Sticker Star as a follow up
They didnt know the reception until during development
Just like how Super Mario 3D World was in development first, with 3D Land coming out in the 3DS as a test for it
>>342196005
>Didn't get a sequel because relations soured with Square
M&LRPG is basically a spiritual sequel to SMRPG
Paper Mario however hold the name of being SMRPG2
>>342190909
>>342196295
The koopalings do different things within those games though
2 was extremely lazy and NSL is still NSMBU
They were done perfectly in Paper Jam
>Best area
Mushroom Kingdom
>best Boss
Bowser
>best partner
None
>best NPC
Toad
>>342193897
The art style is so damn attractive. Why did they have to fuck it up.
Why will we never get a Thousand Year Door
So what's the word with that one faggot and New Paper Mario?
>>342196421
How could they not see the negative reaction from the beginning
Intelligent Systems is so out of touch. Listening to them talk about their "design philosophy" makes me irrationally angry.
What is everyone's problem with SPM?
It's actually my favorite one out of the first 3. The gameplay is just more fun to me.
>What's your favorite boss?
I always liked the Smorg Miasma because of its theme song. Likewise with Crystal King.
Grodus and Bowser are probably my favorite, though.shut up they count as 1 boss
>NPC?
Dimentio.
>Partner?
I always liked Yoshi and Bobbery.
>Theme?
Smorg battle theme, or the Bitlands.
>Area?
Glitz Pit, fuck yeah.
If you can't tell, I really love TTYD.
>>342196354
yes
without it, Nintendo wouldn't have financial problems with having vita-tier hardware on the 3DS. the useless 3D slider hardware just stacks it up.
as a matter of fact, if the 3D slider wasn't there, we'd have a much stronger O3DS out early by then.
>>342195821
If only aonuma cared about more than zelda. I mean, he makes good games, but at least he hasn't run out of creativity like miyamoto
>>342196801
I swear Nintendo has selective hearing or something. They're such a mixed bag, some times they listen & other times they're completely oblivious.
>>342196873
Its an RPG with zero cutomization and braidead combat
Its a platformer with slow movement and sparse, empty levels
And they ran out of shit to do with the main gimmick by the 3rd chapter
One man's opinion anyway. It's cool if you like it.
>>342196557
I don't mind the koopalings but i don't want them in mario rpgs for a reason. If Nintendo discovers they can just chuck the koopalings in as bosses for every world then they'll never want to create original and interesting bosses again
Eventually they'll become as routine and boring which is what i don't want
>>342193897
>pulls out a magic rod
For a second there I thought they were going to have the big dumb brute actually be a powerful wizard.
Alas, that would have been funny.
>>342196801
Sticker Star's bowser castle was rushed
It was supposed to be longer
>>342196801
The first time was the first time
People didnt know what to expect and the gameplay design was new, we knew it had potential as well, but we only saw the true flaws when we actually played the game, so technically that's fair
>>342198184
He's only pulling out a rod to reference Super Mario Bros. 3 which makes no sense come to think of it for any of the current Mario games since those rods belong to the Kings of the worlds in SMB.3.
>>342197817
Color Splash is the only ones to do that so far, but it's their first paper incarnations
Again though, Paper Jam did it right though
>>342198419
>modern mario wouldn't have kings of worlds because they stray too far from mario conventions
ouroboros
>>342190023
Mrs.mowz is my waifu
And the Cortez boss was fun from 1000 year door
>>342198295
>People didnt know what to expect
That's a shit excuse. They've been making video games for decades. Listen to the commentaries for the older Valve games. Its pretty easy to predict what people want from a video game
Protip: It isn't an utterly pointless combat system and a final dungeon with two fucking rooms
>>342198428
Oh hey look it's a osicle
>>342196801
Honestly i feel it's because their staff are under staffed
Regardless of what you think about Waifu's, the Fire Emblem series has never been betterignoring censorship
So obviously there's a problem in devs who actually give a shit
>>342198606
>paper jam foreshadowed the paper koopalings
W o a h
o
a
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. . .
Why do french have the need to make everything so flashy
>>342190023
Boss: Tubba Bubba.
NPC: The badge shop father and son from the 1st game
Partner: Toss up between Lakilester and Lady Bow
Theme: What, like music? Shy Guy's Toybox, The SUN'S THEME in the flower place, or that black and white area's minimalist stuff in TTYD
Area: Train in TTYD, Ice place and flower fields in the first one.
>>342199170
The biggest crime paper jam commited was not being able to go between the real world and paper world. So much missed potential
I could have forgiven the generic toads only design choice if we xould swap between words and do wacky shit but nope, just a game of go from point a to get princess to find she isn't there to point c to get princess to find she isn't there etc.
>>342200028
>ability to go to paper world
>its just bowsers body/dream world 2d shit again
noooooooope
>>342200028
They had the idea in mind but dropped it.
https://i.imgur.com/K1jHGI8.jpg
>>342195814
He was raised by a cup of coffee.
>>342200028
That game had so much potential holy shit.
Imagine it with a mechanic like that which allows dual-plots, and if they allowed characters from the past games to interact with each other (provided some weren't dead).
Grodus and Fawful technology fuckery? Dimentio fucking with the non-paper world?
Nope. Princess kidnapped. Bowser only. Final destination.
>>342200873
I can underatand alphadream wanting to play it safe with ITs game but seriously, when they first got the book back i honestly thought they were going to go to the paper world and some cool mechanics would unfold, like things in the paper world would effect things in the real world and vice versa.
Too bad they didn't do aything interesting with it
>>342200284
>we simplified the script and structured it with greater emphasis on showing the different characters meeting and interacting with each other
Yeah, with a whole 5 characters
question
are there any good SMRPG hacks i should try out?
>>342200873
Nintendo no longer does anything interesting or exciting. Everything is boring, safe, paint-by numbers shit
Luckily, I feel like this generally coincides with me growing out of vidya
>>342200398
>the bucket's name is """Huey"""
>>342201994
It's better than Kersti at least. I was thinking they were gonna name him Ketbu or some stupid shit like that.
>>342201994
It's a pun. Because color is "hue." But yeah it's still pretty silly.
>>342198713
>Fire Emblem series has never been better
That is so untrue, and I like waifus.
>>342201994
YOU CALL HIM A BUCKET BUT ANYONE CAN TELL IT'S REALLY A PAIL!
>>342193356
What's this? A visually distinctive toad? Get this DeviantArt shit out of here.
>>342203397
>>342203192
Any cool romhacks for Paper Mario 64? I'd like to play through it again, but I know I'd like to change it up.
>>342203806
No, Paper Mario rom hacks are still in their early days, we probably won't see full ones for a few years still. This is good progress though https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7w4FGwguIPA
>>342203479
...Is that you, princess anon?
>>342202304
well duh
>>342200398
Bullshit reused everything. It's following that unwritten Mario rule of "Same but just different enough to get by"
>NotSticker Star
>NotKersti
>Notliterally the same fucking story just with missing paint instead of stickers everywhere
>Same toadhunting
>Same Paper Jokes
But wait we did add something new! Koopalings!
>>342204916
I'm not him. I don't even know if he drew it.
>>342205601
Sure looks to be in his style, at least.
>>342205565
>koopalings
>something new
They were "new" when New Super Mario Bros Wii came out forever ago. I hope Miyamato fucking dies, with Japan's retarded corporate culture nobody will ever tell him his ideas are fucking awful.
