> While discussing the past and present of VR on Reddit, Valve’s Alan Yates dropped in this tidbit:
> “I was super fortunate to start at Valve right around the time Michael Abrash had begun the AR/VR research team. It was a much smaller team then than it is now, it has since grown to encompass about a third of the company, but the key individuals that solved most of the really hard technological problems and facilitated this generation of consumer headsets are still here working on the next generation.”
>Estimates have placed Valve’s employee count between 300-350. That would mean upwards of 100 people are behind Valve’s VR effort.
But /v/ told me that VR was a meme...
>>342171708
fuck valve
>>342171708
The other two thirds are working on Half Life 3, right?
>>342171708
>a third
So what's the other 2/3 working on?
>But /v/ told me that VR was a meme...
It is. Valve constantly works on cool stuff that nobody wants. Remember Steamboxes?
>>342171708
It is a meme.
Until we get good **VIDEO GAMES** on the platform instead of just a few gimmicky ideas then I'm assuming it's going to go the same way motion controls did.
>>342171906
Dota 2 and Hat Fortress 2
>>342171708
It is until it becomes affordable for the common man
>valve
>working
>>342171906
Eating snacks in shifts
>customers: valve, we will give you cash money dollars if you make some video games
>valve: no
I seriously don't understand
Not surprised int he least, valve just gets free money constantly via the store end so they are perpetually in search of trying to get in on the next big fotm to profit from that.
>>342171850
>>342171906
looking busy so the they get paid. Valve don't develop shit, they acquire pother peoples development projects, cannibalize the staff worth keeping, then let go of the artist/writer types. they know asset generation can be outsourced tot he 'community.'
>>342172265
making a video game involves doing a lot of work, and making 'some' money.
running the largest pc game store platform involves doing 'ZERO' work and getting lots of money. which fucking one would you pick?
>>342172265
They're making more cash money dollars from gambling crates than they ever did making games. CS:GO and Dota 2 fucking rake in the cash.
>>342171906
Hats
They are pushing this really hard but after the launch of every VR set everyone stopped talking about it. Its a lost cause. Even Activision thinks its a failure.
>>342171959
>>342171708
It's not really a meme per say, it's just for rich people.
The market has been fragmented into two sections thanks to corruption. 1. Poor people. 2. rich people. There's no longer any kind of middle class, so valve is investing in expensive VR technology that people that have more money than brains will instantly jump on. They then have the crate gambling business for poor retards and brazillians.
It's just smart business for them to do this.
>>342172513
>>342172695
While true, they make so much money that they're sitting on huge piles. While they spend some on VR and other hardware projects, there's literally no reason not to use that money developing some games. It'll make a higher return than collecting interest in a bank account.
>>342172965
Why risk sullying their reputation with a bad game when they can sit on the games they have critical acclaim for? You don't want them to be like Blizzard do you? Who sullied their reputation by making games.
>>342173173
Reputation is blown out of proportion. EA, Ubisoft, Gearbox, etc, they still get huge fucking sales on their latest hyper marketed game despite their previous shit games or anti-consumer practices.
>>342171708
Still a meme compared to what Nintendo has in the oven.
>>342171708
VR is absolutely a gimmick. For now. They need to reach get 8k 120fps with no screendoor effect, as well as implement an untethered version, either by doing what (I think) alienware did and make a backpack thing with a laptop capable of those specs, or transfer it directly with some as-yet uninvented wireless signal.
I have no doubt in my mind that we'll eventually get there, probably within a decade. Until then, though, just a gimmick. A gimmick that makes people really sick really fast.
can somebody please post that comic of feels guy throwing away his vr with "cuck" branded on his forehead? thanks
augmented reality is the future btw
>>342171708
>300 valve employees
>100 working on VR
>200 working on hats
>0 working on games
>>342172885
>VR comes out with no games
>HURR WHY DON'T PEOPLE LIKE IT
>shut it down
>>342172914
>rich people
No, it's for anyone with ANY kind of job you fucking underage faggot. $2000 is not a lot of money.
>>342171906
They're all behavioural psychologists who help push new marketing shit on the Steam store to get autists to want to spend money more than play games.
>>342174453
I have like 20 VR games, the fuck you talking about?
I really hope VR isn't the future of gaming.
I hated the Nintendo Wii when it came out. It completely ruined Nintendo for me. And now to a lesser extent, I hate the idea of VR and only to a lesser extent because it isn't mandatory for any great games. I'm fine with it being optional, but I'd hate to see it become mandatory.
Video games are fine the way they are. Just give me a controller or a keyboard/mouse and a big screen and I'm good.
Doesn't mean it's going to be a success, valve could end up taking a major hit if vr fails.
>>342174627
consider the possibility that in some countries you make $300 a month, and have to pay taxes.
not everyone's american or western european.
>>342174627
>$2000 is not a lot of money.
That would depend entirely on what that $2000 is for, anon. It's a lot of money for a gimmick.
I pirate my games rather than buying them on steam. Fuck valve
>>342174751
It just means people far more educated than /v/ are taking what they feel is a reasonable risk rather than the unavoidable failure /v/ thinks it will be.
>>342171708
WILL IT BE COMPATIBLE WITH MY 3D TV?!
>>342171906
Dota 2 updates, CS:GO skins, and Steam Store maintenance.
Sorry, but HL3 is not going to happen. It's just not a profitable project anymore.
>>342174627
As a dude that makes >$100k annually, $2000 is a huge amount of money. Only idiots with no common sense throw money down the drain just because they can. You and your way of thinking are precisely why so many people who win the lottery blow it all and then wind up in massive debt.
>>342174751
I doubt it's going to fail, I've had 10 or so friends who have tried mine whom now want to build their own rig and get a vive even despite the cost as most of them do not own gaming PCs.
Seeing is believing, a few songs on audio shield, 30 mins in holopoint, taking a cruise in elite dangerous, it doesn't take much to convince people they want it.
>>342174921
>6 decades of failure
>same exact thing happens every generation
>even Nintendo tried to get in on it once
Nah it's just /v/ making assumptions.
>>342174918
thats fine
Valve is big enough to survive the VR crash so it'll probably be okay.
>>342174731
When you take away all the "stand in place and shoot enemies" games, how many kickstarter pre-alphas are you left with?
>>342174956
I always forget that my monitor is 3D ready. Is that worth looking into?
>>342175201
Unfortunately it is as dead as VR.
>>342174964
>I'm lying on the internet
It's okay little timmy, some day you might move out of mommies basement.
I make around 70k/annual from my job and another 40-50k from investments. After my monthly expenses I'm still left with 5-6k in left over money. The majority goes into savings / investments.
Dropping $800 on a Vive is fucking nothing, you don't make even 10k/annually if you think it is. I can spend more than that a month on fucking alcohol rofl
>>342175121
>Implying arcade style games are bad
Though I actually don't have any that allow you to actually stand in place as you'd need to be actively dodging.
Only have one EA game, you do realize there are literally hundreds of games already for VR right?
>>342175360
Should have assumed so when literally everyone stopped talking about it.
>>342174964
jobless and never had a job NEET detected
Protip, people spend 700 dollars on iPhones biannually. If you're retarded enough to think VR gear is expensive then you're a lost cause.
This is /v/ too, where loads of PCfags brag about buying the next nvidia GPU every year
What happened to steambox?
>>342173338
You're not wrong - profit rules all. But it isn't quite so simple - many rumps were roasted internally with all the golden poos. (irrelevant) policy changes and so on.
>>342171708
>a third of valve is working
lmao
>""""VIRTUAL""""" reality
lmfao
>>342175105
And man would never fly.
>>342175753
Steambox was pointless to begin with. You can just build your own micro ATX and throw steamOS on it for less than a prebuilt, as with any other PC. Marketing this shit to PC gamers, whom already know how to built their own shit... was pretty retarded of Valve.
>>342175387
>I'm bad with managing money so everyone else must be, too
If nothing else, at least you're proud of yourself, so I guess that's something.
>>342171708
this is where all of your community market taxes and compendium fees go
to make press to teleport zombie games
>>342175753
No one bought them as they were all really expensive. Scan sold one that was basically a screenless laptop for a scandalous price considering it was an i3 and some shitty mobile gpu
>>342175387
>0 spent on wife or kids
>doesn't pay property taxes
>doesn't pay into a pension
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-rm6R9bJ98
Remember 3DTV's?
Everybody is lying when they say they want games. What they really want is porn.
>>342176056
>wife or kids
>/v/
I certainly hope not
>>342175883
Not like that.
>>342176132
Jokes on me, I got a girl pregnant during high school.
does this mean they're getting off their asses to make a proper fucking VR game thats not a bunch of minigames?They wont.
>implying Valve is still a gaming company
>implying they do not mean one third of their game developers
>implying that isn't just a group of 10-30 people
>>342171906
Feeding Gabe
>>342176252
It's not a meme. It's just a suboptimal solution for most games. It's pretty great for porn.
>>342171708
so half life 3 will be VR.
great we know its going to be shit then.
>Valve exclusively deal in F2P microtransactions and gimmick peripherals now
It happened so fast it's almost unbelievable. But here we are.
>>342171850
>>342171906
You have it backwards
HL3 will be a VR game. Both HL1 and 2 sold on their technology, Valve has been waiting years for a good enough gimmick to be the base of HL3, which is why we have gotten so many rumors of HL3 as well because they have been trying so many different things.
But think about it; AAA tier developer making a game based around VR off a brand as big as HL. Its going to be (even if its shit) one of the biggest sellers of all time, at the very least for moving VR headsets which Valve wants becuase there is an entire library of VR games no one buys on steam because they dont have headsets yet.
HL3 will be a VR title.
>>342176387
Don't know why I quoted that post.
>>342176414
Chet the polack said straight up it wont be VR though
>>342175387
>I make around 70k/annual from my job and another 40-50k from investments
And you're also an elite soldier in Gorilla Warfare that can shoot lases out of his eyes and your dad works for Microsoft and Playstation and they're going to make a new console together and it will have Super Smash Bros 7 as an exclusive launch title.
If $400k+ sports cars are still being made when some redneck can beat it by slapping some turbos on an old Mustang and some suspension work, I think VR will be fine. Niche with limited applications, but it should survive long enough for mass produced versions under $300 to be common.
>Valve perusing things they actually want to do and not just making whatever other people want them to make
This should be a good thing. Otherwise you get shit like Activision who shits out CoD sequels or WoW expansions.
>>342175387
>lying to children on the video game board of an anime website
Wowee
>>342176493
Okay but would you buy Half Life VR and all that is required to run it?
>>342178178
Yes.
>>342173939
Not true for sims. It's arrived for simulation games. I can agree you on other genres, but there's no fucking going back when it comes to car or plane sims.
>>342174746
I am with you on this one. I do think that VR must be mandatory for any title that's simulating things, but I don't see it being a must for the CoD kiddies or people playing on CS:GO type of shooter.
Leave it for the simfags and call it a day.
>>342178242
>he'd actually buy a vive
>>342178824
I actually bought a Vive. It's not really worth it now.
>>342176723
That's a tough one. Reason being is that VR will never be sold at the same volume that you see monitors being sold at.
>>342178178
Half life 2 already has vive support, if you mean a normal half life
>>342171906
Not support tickets
Oh hey remember that time besides Steam Valve called the direction the industry would take? Yeah me neither.
