Be honest with me, /v/. Do you think Andromeda going to be THAT bad? They had nearly 4 years to take in feedback about ME3, and with the rise of more old school RPGs, they could possibly return to form with a more ME1 style adventure. I'm pretty hopeful it will be good, at least better than ME3.
>>342168507
everything that's been leaked about it sounds like game of the decade tier shit
but it's also neo-bioware, so there's a solid chance that they'll squander it
It's Bioware.
It'll be shit.
Cautiously optimistic about it.
The main reason I probably wont get it though is that I expect them to turn this game into the next Mass Effect 'series', and I'm not really down for another whole trilogy or group of games. If this game ends up being a stand alone story that just takes place in the ME universe, then great. But I just don't want to commit to another story that spans multiple games, I'm not looking for that kind of investment from a series that burned me on it last time.
>>342168507
>Do you think Andromeda going to be THAT bad?
hmm, let's see
>They announced it like 2 years ago and they haven't shown anything substantial at all
>Multiple lay-offs at BioWare and on the team, having lay-offs in the middle of development is never a good sign.
Most of it points to the game being mediocre at best.
all scifi is liberal trash
>>342168507
Let's have a look at the trend of Mass Effect games.
Yes, I think it will be pretty bad.
>>342168507
Bioware is trash, they probably spent most of that time trying to balance sexual representation of its characters instead of write a good story.
>>342168507
Yes
I'm one of the few people on /v/ who loved ME2 but I'm pretty sure andromeda won't be any good
It's unquestionably going to be 100% garbage and I can't wait to see the trainwreck.
>>342172201
Revisionism. Most people understood ME2 being more shooter than RPG at the time. Though people here have always preferred 1 for obvious reasons.
>>342172201
>I'm one of the few people on /v/ who loved ME2
>few
nigger this entire board went crazy for ME1, anyone claiming otherwise is history revisionism
>>342172772
ME2*
The board was renamed for fuck's sake.
>>342172542
>le jaded /v/ cynic xD
SWTOR ruined /v/ beyond all hope.
>>342168507
looks like DA2 so far hopfully they dont go full Dorian again
>LOOK LOOK WE GOT FULL GAY IN OUR GAME!!!
>>342168507
>Be honest with me, /v/. Do you think Andromeda going to be THAT bad?
Yes.
>>342174096
>b-boogeymen
I don't exactly hold high hopes for Bioware games.
>>342168507
The game is going to be shit, but leddit and /v contrarians will create thousands thread with titles "i liked it", "the game is good" and so on
People liked ME2 until ME3 came out. ME3 was so bad, it made people hate even ME2 retroactively.
>>342168507
I do, but /v/ shitting themselves over the Asari is total fucking autism. The game will be bad, but not because of a slighly subpar model on a CG movie of a teaser trailer. Remember Morrigan on DAI, CG trailer? She looked like shit and was by far the hottest in the actual game.
>>342174476
That default femshep is way uglier than the asari.
>>342175664
People were split about ME then and are still split about it now. I still see the same argument in ME threads today as I saw on the beginning of the ME general on /v/, about whether ME1 or ME2 is better. Split then, split now. Though now it's a lot cooler to hate on Bioware so you get a lot of shitposters as well.
>>342168507
I'm tired of games that don't end like mass effect and da:i. I bought the game, tell me the whole story or fuck off. Your stories aren't good enough for 3 fucking games.
Bioware and it's shit trilogy ideas ruined dragon age. This shit gonna be more of the same.
They have a 50/50 shot at not fucking it up. That's more credit than I'm giving them but hey.
It's not like I WANT IT to be shit and fail. I want a good Mass Effect again.
>>342168507
>They had nearly 4 years to take in feedback about ME3
I'm pretty sure the only reason it took 4 years is because they hope people have forgotten ME3, but we haven't
>>342176215
They all had shit stories but 3 was just stupid as hell and it was the wrap up kek. Dragon age inquisition story was even worse, at least me 3 didn't have a dumbass singing scene. Bioware are hacks.
>>342176638
>at least me 3 didn't have a dumbass singing scene
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RLJsAthV3sQ
Bioware does not take fan feedback into consideration. They do not care about the consumer. They know that their game will sell on hype. It is going to be shit.
>>342168507
It's from the faggots that brought you Cisquisition. What do you fucking think?
>>342168507
It's going to be awful. I won't give it a chance anyway. Three strikes and they're out. Forever.
>>342168507
how could all of this happen, what madness drives those people, what has turned bioware into this abomination, Dragon Age: Origins was a decent game as was Mass Effect, what in gods name happened
>>342176891
This shit is so gay it turned me into a tranny.
>>342168507
I don't even think that the people that were did the original work at Bioware anymore. Maybe Mac Walters, and he was head writer on ME3 so yeah. I am not looking forward to it.
>>342168507
>are you sure it'll be shit?
Though question, let's check their latest releases:
- Dragon Age: Inquisition
- Mass Effect 3
- Dragon Age 2
99.100% it's gonna be shit.
>>342168507
It's EA. There is absolutely no chance of anything good happening. Not even a chance of something average happening. It will set new standards for the absolute worst.
No, just because they haven't done anything good since the original Mass Effect.
>>342168507
I lost all interest in ME after 2. I'll just watch videos tearing Andromeda to shreds in place of playing it
>>342177198
Which three strikes?
>>342168507
It's going to have interesting character interactions, servicable combat and terrible RPG elements. In other words: it's going to be a Mass Effect game.
>>342177759
ME3, DA2, DA:I, and even Old Republic
this isn't hard
>>342178051
You can add ME2 to that as well. Worse than ME1 in every possible way, excluding the combat.
>>342174096
Who the hell is Stephen Harper?
bruh truuue that is how bioware people smile when they pass me on the street holy fuck lmfao
>>342178134
Nah, it's better than ME1 in every possible way excluding the story, and the story is competent too.
>trans asari
nty
>>342178149
former Prime Minister of Canada
he was a Conservative and ruled for a decade until the walking meme won last year
>>342168507
>there are people hyped up for this after ME3 and the last two DA games
What makes you think Bioware will suddenly become good after 3 shitty games?
>>342178258
>and the story is competent too.
http://www.shamusyoung.com/twentysidedtale/?p=7004
>>342178134
The combat is definitely more boring than ME1 with the global cd on abilities, removal of medigel, and the cool disc grenades.
>>342178368
He's right about ME2's story being out of place in the trilogy. But ME2's story, judged on it's own, is competent.
>>342178481
I honestly think ME would have been better overall had the plot of ME2 been the first game's plot, and Shepard becomes a Spectre in the second game.
>>342178051
Ah
Personally I never bothered with the DA games or Old Republic so I guess it's one strike for me.
It's a fucking big strike though.
>>342178626
you should check out DA:Origins/Awakening if you get the chance, they're still competent, good games, if you feel like playing an RPG, anyway.
>>342178606
Hm, that's not a bad idea.
>>342178772
DA:O is bad too, it's just that DA2 and DA:I are so much worse it seems okay in comparison.
>>342178481
>>342178606
That's because the whole plot of ME2 leads you nowhwere. They are interesting and all but, what's the point right. It feels like they just backpedalled from ME ending, lost their balls to actually dig into the whole Reapers mythos that the first game was hinting.
>>342178772
Nah.
I never liked the whole fantasy setting of video games. Not just Bioware but fantasy in general.
>>342178971
you think? I actually rather enjoyed it for what it was, though the Morrigan pushing was a bit forced.
>>342179026
I completely agree, as the middle part of a trilogy its a fucking mess. But on it's own, it's self contained and works fine, only a little less good than ME1's.
>take in feedback
>Bioware
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA HOLY SHIT YOU'VE GOT TO BE JOKING. Unless it's feedback about not being inclusive enough to genderfluid demisexual beastkin, they don't listen to shit. "Take in feedback" get a load of this fucking guy, what planet do you live on?
>>342168507
>Do you think Andromeda going to be THAT bad?
I don't want it to suck. I want it to be a good game, but:
- The setting is fucking ruined by the 2nd and 3rd games
- Bioware has hired more SJW writers
- Bioware's team seems to be growing increasingly incompetent
- Bioware still operates under EA's thumb
- Bioware's management shows every indication of being retards
- What we know of the game so far doesn't suggest it being any good
It's gonna be another tortanic
With Gaider gone I don't think there's anyone left at Bioware who has been there longer than 3-4 years.
>hey what if we took this setting that even people who've come to hate the games still like and took it to another galaxy!?
I don't know what they're doing. Mass Effect 3 and its 3 colour ending was a mistake.
>>342179716
>- The setting is fucking ruined by the 2nd and 3rd games
Eh, the point of Andromeda is to LEAVE IT ALL BEHIND. Just sayin'. You're right about everything else except maybe the final point, unless by "what we know" includes the rest of your points instead of actual stuff about the game itself.
The writers are gone and the third game was enough to make me not like the first one anymore. I don't care if it's good or not and a lot of people seem to think the same.
>>342179876
>I don't know what they're doing.
"We completely fucked up the Galaxy beyond repair, let's go somewhere else"
>>342170580
>Halo
>Fight space muslims
>>342168507
>They literally went into one of the dev rooms and grabbed some fat gross coder and dragged him into the capture room
Topkek that's fucking hideous
>>342170113
>optimistic
Faggot. Fuck off. All Bioware games are terrible trash.
>>342170580
Name one setting that is.
>>342179957
You could in theory pretend 2&3 don't exist and consider Andromeda as the true sequel to mass effect. Shepherd's story ends at his and the human councilors speech at the end.
Thats if Andromeda doesnt turn out to be worse.
>>342180750
But 2 was good. Andromeda however is almost certainly going to be bad.
>>342170760
I see ME1 is already forgotten
Someone post the forum post of the new Writer who worked for Balders Gate and is now going to be on the Mass Effect team.
You know the one.
>>342180869
>But 2 was good
in what meaningful way
>>342176071
that default femshep is was uglier than any Krogan
>>342180869
2 was good but it led to 3.
2 had Cereberus as a bigger presence and introduced The Illusive Man
Both of which are fucking awful in 3.
>>342181183
In every way. Again, the story is only bad as a middle entry of a trilogy, on it's own it's quite good.
tfw mass effect female characters look like male star trek parody characters
>>342181397
You can't blame 3's failings on 2 any more than you can blame 2's failings on 1.
>>342181416
>the story is only bad as a middle entry of a trilogy
>on its own
IT IS ON ITS OWN
>middle entry
ITS NOT EVEN RELEVANT WHAT HAPPENS
reddit is over there
>>342168507
i MIGHT pirate this piece of shit
>>342181446
Just fuckin say Galaxy Quest
>>342181507
I can and will. I love the ME2 Squadmates but 3 taints everything good about 2.
Like said squadmates being cameos in 3
I expect loads of sjw bullshit
>>342181183
All the events of 1 are just as pointless as 2 by that logic. All you did was very slightly delay their arrival by shutting down some of their shortcuts and do nothing to prepare for when they actually arrive. Which as you see in 3, was basically immediately so nothing you did in 1 or 2 meant anything.
>>342181550
There's nothing wrong with the story on it's own. The big problem it has is it doesn't advance the trilogy's plot.
>>342168507
I'm cautiously optimistic. Important to note is that if the game is shit, it won't be because of the Eyebrow-sari pictured in the OP or the default female pc. It'll be because it's a shit game.
>>342181397
>Cerberus in ME3
Don't fucking remind me.
>>342181937
Correct 1 sucked huge fucking dicks.
>>342180869
2 is hit and miss
they fucked over a lot of their storytelling and backstory, but the gameplay mechanics were better than the first game.
>>342181937
In 1 you discovered the threat, and gained time to prepare for their coming. 2 was supposed to be about convincing everyone about the Reapers and prepare the Alliance to somehow defend the galaxy against them.
>>342182428
I'd say they were regressed and the original had some potential to have meaningful RPG elements. Instead they were gouged out and removed. Great "mechanics" there. I'd be a bit more conservative and go with "mechanic" when speaking of its riveting gameplay.
>>342168507
>Do you think Andromeda going to be THAT bad?
Modern BIoWare is turning out progressivly worse shit and more and more people quit the company that were there for a decade or more.
What would make anyone think they will pull a 180 and deliver quality again? Honest question.
>>342168507
I'm getting Andromeda for the sole purpose of the multiplayer. Anything else is secondary.
>>342182926
b-b-but, Balder's Gate!
>>342172201
ME2 was great
>>342169375
>>342168507
I don't understand how people can still find anything positive with Bioware or EA anymore.....
>They pander to an entitled demographic and in turn use them as a shield for an criticism, ex. Dragon Age: Inquisition
>Their games are lazy, rushed and underwhelming, ex. ME3
>They have some of the most cancerous forms of DLC, including removing story-critical characters, ex. ME3
>Including lazy development, their animations are fucking atrocious
>They censor their forums of any negative criticism, whether technical or objective
>And even despite all of this, they want you to use their cancerous Origin client
Granted, it's hard for me to ever completely boycott a company, but with Bioware/EA, their games simply aren't attractive, so I don't have to buy them regardless
By the way, I wasn't aware Asari's were capable of having Downs Syndrome......
>>342183083
It was, but nowadays most of /v/ claims to hate it because muh universal ammo and muh daddy issues
>>342182926
>mass effect
>multiplayer
>>342183083
I agree--ME2 was great, but literally everything afterwards......
>Dragon Age 2
>Mass Effect 3
>Dragon Age: Inquisition
>Motherfucking The Old Republic
Are fucking horrible
>>342182643
And in 3 we see absolutely nobody took the threat seriously and Shepard is mister wacky conspiracy man even as Reapers rampage like kaiju.
>>342168507
>Abandoning all the characters and lore previously established
Nah, it's going to be utter trash. There is no hope, as if the hideous feminist approve characters being all intrusive in the video and promotional material didnt give off that impression already. Bioware is dead, they killed themselves, EA only helped them along.
>>342183447
Yeah, Bioware/EA completely fucked up the story from the first game.
>>342178134
The combat was actually worse though.
>>342180549
Fuck off cynic, your taste is probably worse
>>342183931
At least enemies died in ME2. At points, it because "shoot a single enemy for 1min as you stunlock him to death"
>>342172924
me2 was the start of the end. Became too casualized shit coordidor shooter themepark malls on every planet type shit.
>>342182428
I didnt think they were.
Mass Effect was never good.
>>342168507
Every time I see this face, I just get angrier and angrier. You just know we're going to get some kind of stupid speech about how enlightened aliens don't have genders or limit themselves to one orientation or some bullshit. I would actually bet money on it.
>>342168507
>they had four years to take in feedback
You mean 4 years to cover their ears and scream "BIGOTS" as loud as they could?
Bioware is dead, OP. Everyone who had the slightest bit of talent or critical thought has either left or been sent to the EA Mines, and they've filled the gaps with the most entitled, up-their-own-ass liberal art majors Tumblr has to offer.
It's a travesty, and we only prolong their suffering by purchasing their product. The company needs to fail so that they can finally die.
>>342168507
Gameplay wll be decent, possibly good.
Story will be absolute shit, with hamfisted inclusion of SJW agenda and ugly character models for no reason. My biggest problem with this is that the universe they've created has plenty of opportunity for these things to happen naturally, but these things still pop up like it's a universe where homosexualitf, transgender, women's rights, etc. are still a contested perspective. It fucks up everything because it makes the statement obvious as fuck, and breaks the walls of the vidya. It's infuriating.
I've put up with decent gameplay if the story was natural enough, or at the very least if it were totally uninportant. But knowing Bioware, the story and characters are going to be in your face most of the game, and the gameplay is basically going to be touched on about as much as cutscenes in a normal game.
So I'm not really too invested. It'll probably be shit.
>>342184151
Enemies died in 1 too. No idea what you're trying to say. They werent all that damage spongey to me.
Remember that Baldur's Gate 2 was de facto a Black Isle title and got handed over to Bioware when it was almost done.
>>342184390
They did that in the first game with their mary sue species of Asari. Only they were all designated as female because women are even more capable than men and they're the strongest beings in the universe and know everything and girl power.
>>342168507
I'm trying to be optimistic.
But it's been two years with no gameplay shown and the gaming industry is quickly becoming 'with SJW or against SJW'.
tfwNo Final Fantasy/Mass Effect Crossover ever
>>342184717
Nigga the whole western world is becoming hyper factionalised thanks to toxic lefty politics, not just gaming. Imagine where we will be in 2020, jesus
>>342184717
You're trying to rationalize shit
>>342184947
>Imagine where we will be in 2020, jesus
Lets try not to get there to find out
>>342184807
Two aborted excuses for characters meet in warp space and have a fatal accident.
Nothing of value..
>>342168507
I was interested until they said 'lol none of your choices from the other games will matter at all'
I get that the game is set hundreds of thousends of years later
but seriously?
The Geth thing is thrown out?
The Krogen cure is thrown out?
WHAT BECAME OF THE REAPERS IS THROWN OUT?
>>342185339
theyll probably find some peaceful reapers mark my fuckin words
>>342184947
We'll all be wearing cute dresses after being forcibly trannitised by Dictator For life Hillary's Diversity Squads.
>>342185390
You know what I really liked?
Dragon Age Keep
In dept
can set up a new 'world' in less than ten minuets
Hell
Just have a fucking questioner at the beginning of the game
'What happened to the Korgan?"
>Cured, led by Wrex
'What happened the the Geth'
>Alive, allied with Quarians
'What happened to the Reapers?'
>Controlled by Computer Shed who was a Paragon
ITS THAT EASY!
>>342184654
I am happy that I must have missed that speech. I probably couldn't hear if over the sound of every combat/ team-command gameplay element being absolute garbage as the Mako randomly glitch-cartwheeled into lava.
>>342186410
I never had a problem controlling the Mako, it was actually pretty fun bouncing around.
>>342168507
Wait, aren't Asari supposed to be universally beautiful? This one is an ugly cunt..
>>342184551
I found the enemies in 1 were super spongy, especially the Krogan, unless you played on easy mode.
>>342168507
I'm sorry for my ignorance but why do people keep reposting that Asari face? It looks goofy as hell but I'm not sure what it represents since I don't know Mass Effect that well.
>>342186610
You forget who is making the game
>>342186786
I never had a problem with the Krogan then again i was a Vanguard and shotty destroyed everything. Might tie into >>342186410 this anons post but i found the gameplay to pretty fun and intuitive. Really the only thing i didnt like was the menu when selling stuff.
>>342186610
That's because it's an Asari (male)
>>342183348
Mass Effect 3 multiplayer was GOAT and lasted for almost 2 years after launch. If this lasts as long I'd be very happy with just a 60$ purchase.
>>342185136
Lightning isn't an aborted excuse for a character, she's perfect.
>>342186796
Asari are supposed to be literally perfect to every race. The epitome of beauty
>>342187104
>Lightning isn't an aborted excuse for a character
That's exactly what she is.
>>342183403
>Dragon Age 2
That gamewas rushed so they could make mass effect 3
It has the best characters in the series and imo the best story. If they hadn't cut corners to meet deadlines which led to reused assets from hell it would have been a good game. The bosses were drastically better than the first game and the combat and level system while simplified at least wasn't broken by knight enchanters or arcane warriors like the first and third.
>>342187450
>It has the best characters in the series and imo the best story
Please let this be bait
>>342184807
But... this already fucking happened didn't it?
>>342184717
Seriously, how hard is it to FUCKING CHECK YOUR SOURCES?!
That's TW1, which was a much better game.
>>342187104
I'm uninterested in her and the way she looks. Fuck you.
>>342168507
Is that guy alien or a robot? Never played ME
>>342187104
She's only perfect for one thing and I ain't seeing any Toblerone.
>>342187815
Then why do you care?
>>342188262
Because I'm bored on /v/.
>>342188262
Curiosity?
I remember playing the first Mass Effect and being completely captivated by it. When Bioware managed to split the IP from Microsoft Studios and they would talk in interviews about how excited they were about the franchise going forward, and holy shit, it was blowing my mind just imagining what ME2 would be like. Then they got scooped up by EA, and every last drop of senior talent bled out and got replaced by Anthony Burch-tier scum, and Bioware has decayed to the point where the next stale ass annual COD release is probably going to be a better ME than Andromeda.
Fuck it all.
>>342188439
>>342188506
Then it's a fucking alien who reproduces asexually (well, more like hypno/brain sex) so they don't have designed genders, in the first three ME they were represented as hot blue women very in touch with their desires and sensuality, working as strippers for example, and looking. Invariably. Hot.
It seems their new take on the species -if the image is real, I'm still trying to convince myself it isn't- is that they are all uncanny valley trans people.
Blah blah blah, LGBT boogeyman, toxic leftists, make video games great again, yadda yadda.
You are now up to page with this thread.
...Or will be in a few xeno porn pics.
>when you fuck the series up so badly that you have to set the sequel in another galaxy
>>342189732
holy fuck i cant
>>342168507
Look into that retarded mongoloids face and tell me if you see any hope of worth in this game.
>>342190585
Maybe you get to punch it in the face. That could happen, right.
>>342186610
Isn't Asari supposed to look attractive to whoever species look at them? I mean, they could be aberrations for all we know. Which also makes zero sense when photos exists. I never grasped this.
>>342180735
Star Trek is literally liberal trash
>>342190585
>try to look
>downie alien
>inhuman shit eating smirk
cant do this
>>342191308
Not really, they're just considered universally attractive somehow. There isnt any jedi mind tricks going on with their appearance.
>>342191308
Because that's bullshit made up by retards.
I played the entire trilogy back to back two years ago for the first time.
2 was a complete betrayal of 1, and I can't believe /v/ liked the game.
>>342177367
>tranny
>gay
pick one
>>342191886
you mean the game that turned the shit combat and clusterfuck inventory system into something good?
>>342176891
STFU, Tali. I'm glad i romanced Liara.
They will never be able to wash off the taint of ME3 in my mind. They want to go for brand recognition, but in this case it does far more harm than good. If they really wanted to wipe the slate clean, it should have been a new IP
>>342192117
>implying 2 didn't have shit combat
Like hiding behind a piece of cover and reloading my weapons with only about 5 choices was an improvement. 1 may have had a bloated inventory system, but it gave me customization
You know, an RPG element. Which is what Mass Effect is supposed to be.
>>342192117
You know you can like the combat and still consider it an inferior game right? I liked the combat too friend but 2 was the downfall of the series.
>>342192117
Combat in 1 was better though. Just needed a better inventory system and the running of 3.
>>342185339
It's set in a different galaxy, far away from the events of Mass Effect 1-3. It's just an excuse for a fresh start but within the story it makes sense.
Do we know what time Andromeda takes place in? Someone in this thread said 100,000+ years, but that can't be true.
>>342168507
SJWs working on it. it's just going to be about fulfilling a political agenda, not making a good game. no interest.
I don't care anymore. Not so much because of the me3 ending, but that all the writing in every bioware game feels the same. You got your heroic or cunt savior mc that all the good guys respect and anyone who doesn't is a bad guy. You got your entertaining party members with less relevance then special snowflake mc. You're important. There's a brief sex scene before going onto the final level. The formula has been overused with not a lot of variation. "Oh shit, it's Saren or Corypheus r some evil league causing trouble, time to go recruit help and party members to save the world" or some shit.
>>342193601
Hollywood video games with guns
>>342191383
>>342170580
>/pol/acks are getting so delusional and bitter entire genres are liberal trash now
You can't make this shit up, people.
With that said, Bioware will shoehorn a bunch of progressive shit in that feels forced and out of place. I fully expect some kind of extremely hamfisted POWERFUL WOMEN bit to happen and every character will have to espouse their sexual orientation for some reason. It's like clockwork at this point.
The biggest problem I have is that we had 3 games of world building that they unrepentantly pissed all over. By setting this game in another galaxy, Bioware might as well admitted they shit the bed.
Should just retcon the fucking ending of ME3 someway. Or subvert it, I don't fucking care. Make a game about the many other factions around. Fuck, have an alien protag.
I hope it's good, but I really don't think it will be.
>>342168507
nobody smiles/smirks like that unless they are hitting rock bottom and depressed as fuck
>>342193067
3000 years later, 5,000,000 light years away, or something like that
>>342194220
You imply that you're not a /pol/lack but here you've build this tremendous wall of text.
>>342170580
>he never read starship troopers
>>342193601
Some day you'll realize the entire universe and everything in your life repeats itself, like a fractal. When you do, the same feeling of bored repetition will be omnipresent in everything you do, and you'll realize a game having the same theme, as they all do, isn't much of an issue.
>>342168507
I doubt they learned anything after critics and even some fans made themselves believe Inquisition is any good and started to pat Bioware in the back for "smartly placed flaws".
Case in point: fuck ugly Asari in best traditions of Sera.
>>342193601
Recycled premises i'm fine with, it's about how good the journey and all that is. Which Bioware has sadly lost the spark to do.
>>342181183
The relevance, or lack thereof, of its plot in the overall story doesn't make it a bad game.
>>342174476
Why did they feel the need to give default femshep a weird persian or jew nose? Why not a fine nose? Or any other type that isn't so unnappealing
>>342194475
Retard, everyone knows the Chinese invented the wall.
>>342194805
That's right.
But there is such a thing as a good game and a bad mass effect game. Both can be satisfied qualification.
>>342194872
I mean, I really hope it's not the case, but she might literally be based on fucking Anita.
There hasn't been much to work with, but the resemblance is worrisome.
>people are surprised that this Bioshit game that they crap out will be garbage
They haven't even shown a trailer for the thing, they fucking showed a the female lead and told us all that she's going to be the face of the game.
Why are you people surprised?
>>342194872
Because muh realistic representation of womyns
>>342195172
Goddamit, this smug dog makes me laugh errytime.
>>342194696
>It's okay to keep telling the same rehashed forgettable story instead of something new, memorable, and fun
>>342194872
These games are made for women now, and women don't want to see female characters more attractive than they are.
>>342195792
This is the real answer.
I just want to play a space RPG made by a company that can create both attractive, well-written characters and unattractive, well-written characters rather than only being able to create unattractive, poorly written characters.
>>342168507
SHOW ME A FACE MORE PUNCHABLE THAN THIS?
Protip:you literally in a million years can't
>>342168507
>Do you think Andromeda going to be THAT bad?
Yes
>They had nearly 4 years to take in feedback about ME3
It's funny that you think Bioware is smart or aware enough to learn anything from the backlash from ME3
> they could possibly return to form with a more ME1 style adventure
Why do you keep doing this to yourself? Give up on them already and stop with the delusions. Mass Effect is done; it died with 3. Let it go.
>>342196604
>>342183403
Inquisition was by far the best out of those though so there's hope. Aside from Sera, Vivienne, and Iron Bull, Inquisition was not that bad at all.
>>342197120
But Iron Bull was the best part about it next to Loghain.
>>342197120
I don't even know. I could finish DA2 without forcing myself, but after looking at DA3 quite a bit I didn't even feel like pirating the game.
It just looks bland sucky and ugly, with dubious moral compass for your teammates that you can't call them on.
Also, holy shit Sera...
>>342197120
>Inquisition was by far the best out of those
given that list, that has absolutely fucking zero meaning
>>342197180
Iron Bull is lore rape shit. Qunari are not supposed to be jovial and sarcastic and shit.
>>342197706
It really depends on their upbringing, dont forget there are the Tal'Vashoth who could possibly adapt to outside societies, or even if they werent raised in their homeland. Not only that but they have been known to engage in festivities and celebration. It's just that the best window we had into the Quanari all this time are through the militaristic branch.
>>342197557
Inquisition has its faults but DA:I is considerably better than 2.
>The maps are very open without feeling empty and dull,
>there's some pretty good dungeons,
>story is coherent with a cool villain as opposed to 2's meandering story,
>pretty darn good graphics,
>they actually answer all the questions that were opened at the end of DA:O's Witch Hunt DLC, The crafting is better than it is in any of the other games,
>the fade actually doesn't suck this time.
>System Shock 2-like research system where you turn in creature loot in order to earn passive bonuses against those types of creatures.
The main problem is that several of the characters are SJW shit, but you never actually have to use them, and being a melee mage is OP as fuck.
>>342198391
Yeah but a video game does not exist in a vacuum. It has context, history.
DA1 was sorta interesting, with HUGE ASS FLAWS but still pretty sweet, brand new and seemingly rich universe, fun take on the zombie apocalypse genre and a new combat system
DA2 was interesting not for its gameplay nor story really, but for the characters and storytelling. Varric is the best thing to come out of this, the murder knife was fun as all shit -even more considering how things just refuse to die in this game- and it felt like an interesting side-story to the first one, there are Gray Wardens, but they're not the focus here.
All in all there was plenty of good to go around and some characters really carried the game, and some really really nice storytelling moments, like the climax of Varric's sidequest. Fuck, it even had a decent message and deconstruction of the heroic archetype.
DA:I seems to be mechanically more sound than previous games, but it sounds boring as fuck. I know it's a stupid argument but when looking for a nice female character to romance I didn't find shit. Some characters are good and even hilarious, and the world is more open and still pretty interesting, but it's just old news by this point. It's like I already played that game, and better iterations of it even.
It's bland, it's ugly and it's sucky.
Still better than 2? Maybe, but having played both DA1 and DA2 I have 0 interest in playing DA:I because they already did well what DA:I does.
>>342200646
Addendum: And other games from other publishers already did better the "new" things DA:I does well.
>>342168507
I'd be down for a Mass Effect 1 style of adventure.
If it didn't have a completely shit interface
And main campaign environments that didn't look bland as fuck.
And planets that had more shit on them than some mineral deposits to stake a claim on, salvage, an anomaly that turns out to be a relic every time, a merc base that is always one of three copy/pasted merc bases, and terrain that was done by an intern in a day using terrain mapping software.
And enemies that didn't all train at the Zerg academy for attacking.
And some more characters other than the two we got feel more three dimensional and nuanced.
Actually, never mind. I'll just play Jade Empire again.
>>342195792
Anyone who denies this doesn't understand women.
>most recent games
>DA2, Inquisition, ME3 and TOR
you're out of your mind if you think it's even going to be mediocre
>>342200646
>, but for the characters and storytelling.
DA:I has a way better main story than DA2. Varrick is in DA:I as well and Solas is probably the best character since Origins despite Bioware fucking up where his eyes are supposed to be on his head. DA2's companions sucked just as bad if not worse. They took Merrill from Origins and made her some mentally retarded cutesy girl so the writers could "squee" over her.
Aside from Varrick, pretty much all decent DA2 companions were just raped versions of their DA:O versions. Especially Merrill and Anders.
> I know it's a stupid argument but when looking for a nice female character to romance I didn't find shit.
Cassandra, but if you care that much about romance shit then problem is you honestly.
> but having played both DA1 and DA2 I have 0 interest in playing DA:I because they already did well what DA:I does.
except DA:I is very different from either of them. The maps aren't tiny corridors. They're large but very well-designed. I also think DA:I probably has more puzzles than both of them.
>It's bland
okay
>it's ugly
Lol no. Aside from Bioware having generally shit character modelers/texturers, it's pretty as fuck due to frostbite lighting
>and it's sucky.
what does this even mean?
>>342200646
The only interesting thing about DA2 were those very few story telling bits, and the characters were mostly alright. You hold both of these in way too high regard.
>>342168507
Looks like a twink dude.
If Asari are supposed to be attractive to men of all species. Couldn't there be Asari that are attractive to gay men as well?
If you people even think of buying Andromeda (or pirating) after Mass Effect 3, then I don't want to hear a single bitch about anything. You deserve every precious second of EA fucking you in the ass.
>>342168507
>they've had 4 years to take in the feedback from ME3
From day one they were calling their userbase entitled children and refusing to change anything. They never stopped doing this or admitted any mistakes.
>>342168507
Somebody did told me that bioware games are pretty boring.
And there are manjaws and fags everywhere.
SHIT games
And they dont stop comming
And they dont stop comming..
And they dont stop comming...
>>342169375
What has been leaked about it?
The footage at E3 didn't really look graphically or artistically impressive, considering how Battlefront looks and its on the same engine
>>342202868
You missed the whole point of my post didn't you? It's not that I believe DA:I to be strictly worse than even DA2, since I didn't play that shit it would be stupid of me to claim that, it's that DA:I does not inspire me in anyway, because I already bought what it tries to sell, either by purchasing DA1 and 2 or by playing other games.
>Varrick is in DA:I too and the pool of companions is just better overall.
This shit right here is a good example. I already had my Varrick action, him coming back is not a reason to buy the new iteration. Also from what I've garnered, the new companions are really not that new or interesting, going little beyond their archetypes.
>Cassandra and caring about romance.
Fuck no for Cassandra. And by fuck no I mean not even with the magitek equivalent of a fuck machine. Also fuck you. Some gamers care about scoring, some care about understanding the depths of the game, some care about being the best like no one ever was.
I care about finishing the game. And if romance is a thing in the game,then having at least one semi-decent chick to bang. It is NOT too much to ask from a fucking game with romance options. No romance in Papers Please? I can live with that shit. Not the purpose of the game. Is okay. But if Bioware tries to sell me their romance shit and. There is not. One. Single. Bangable. Chick. Then I'm not the problem.
>DA:I is very different from DA1 and 2.
You honestly made me look at gameplay videos of this piece of shit game again. Congratulations.
Gameplay-wise it's very similar to DA:2, probably better done though. For the world building... Maybe looking at the Hinterlands is cheating, but it looks like slightly larger corridors linking bigger "rooms" and eventually villages. It doesn't feel like I can explore shit.
It's less bland than it is rehashed honestly.
>Ugliness
The characters are assblastingly ugly. World is cool.
>>342201792
Western women**
>>342203869
Maybe yes. Maybe my nostalgia goggles stayed glued on. Maybe I just forgot.
Maybe I'm just a big softie.
>>342193601
They've been doing this since Baldur's Gate anon. The only game I can think of that actually broke away from that formula somewhat was Dragon Age 2, which was abysmal in its own special way.
![1zb9eg3[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/Drli6Wm.jpg "1zb9eg3[1].png")
>>342193601
I noticed that too going from KOTOR to Mass Effect
Someone else did too apparently, I remember this from a long time ago
>>342205156
This image has always annoyed me because it deliberately cuts and chops up the BG games to try to make it fit the image in a really dishonest way.
>>342202868
I played DA:I at release, so my opinion on the game is based on that version.
The game is the poster boy for wasted potential and wasted effort. They build these fairly large and diverse zones that look and feel pretty good, but then proceed to not actually use them. They just fill them up with trashy MMO-lite sidequest spam ala Ubisoft. The story is the standard "save the world/galaxy" fare we expect from Bioware, but that they turned a guy from a DLC in DAII into the main villain is questionable. What should have been a huge source of fun and gameplay - managing the Inquisition - is turned into a Facebook game, and you never really feel that you are actually the general of a large and armed movement.
>>342168507
take in feedback? lol they literally hired some tumblr feminist to be the main story writer.
>>342206198
This is why I legitimately believe the story will be horrendous. There is no way she won't insert her political views into the story every 5 minutes/seconds.
>>342206517
Bioware has always had a facination with presenting women in a ridiculous power fantasy way though. ME was their worst offender. There were multiple examples of women just being verbally or contextually fellated like they're were the best and strongest and smartest beings in the universe.
>>342204430
>the new companions are really not that new or interesting, going little beyond their archetypes.
You say that as if ANY dragon age characters really go beyond their archetypes. They're about the same quality if not slightly better than 2's companions. Solas and Blackwall both have massive twists about who they are, especially Solas.
>Also fuck you. Some gamers care about scoring
Your taste is shit. Romance shit is the cancer killing crpgs.
>But if Bioware tries to sell me their romance shit and. There is not. One. Single. Bangable. Chick. Then I'm not the problem.
If you care at all about romances in fantasy RPGs you absolutely are the problem.
>Maybe looking at the Hinterlands is cheating, but it looks like slightly larger corridors linking bigger "rooms" and eventually villages
wut. No, it's pretty damn open. There's no corridors unless you're inside a dungeon.
>It doesn't feel like I can explore shit.
you most certainly can.
>>342170113
Game-spanning stories with stuff carrying over is what Mass Effect is known for, of course that's what it's going to be.
>>342208196
Actually what it's famous for is promising that and then not doing it.
Krogan and the Genophage overarching plot really were the best thing in Mass Effect. It was always consistently great.
>>342204337
google it my nigga, there's a bigass
Is he right?
>>342210502
I think i got cancer just trying to process that trash.
Andromeda is gonna be THAT bad
luckily EA has quarantined their shit to Origin for the last half decade, so I won't even be bothered by seeing it on Steam/GOG. I'll just be able to forget it exists and imagine BioWare was shut down instead of becoming BiWarEA.
>>342210656
>he missed it
laughinganimegirl.jpg
>>342168507
>Be honest with me, /v/. Do you think Andromeda going to be THAT bad?
Yes. How anyone can have any hope left in Bioware after DA2, ME3 and DAI is beyond me. They haven't produced a good game in ages by now.
And I don't think Bioware cares about feedback from the players. Just look how that whole ME3 ending desaster went down. People called their nonsensical ending with zero closure what it was and Bioware just went into crazy hissyfits.
>>342168507
You guys ready for the next wave of blueberry waifu porn?
Shit or not, its going to produce some gooood shit
Why do people like varric? He was such a faggot dropped dai when i realized he was in it
>>342170580
firefly was all about standing up to the globalists
>>342195792
>what is wish fulfilment?
>>342168507
>male asari
Fuck Bioware.
I am still mad
Never forget
>>342203983
After the shittastic ending, this screen made me scream in rage.
Like... Okay. You make a shit game with the most anticlimactic bullshit unsatisfying ending. Then, you fucking put this shit at the end? Seeing this image still makes me mad.
>>342168507
All the original devs are gone
SJW shoehorned into writing to obscure the shit writing
Uncompetent developers picked by political orientation and controversy generation rather than skill at making games
EA
It will be one of the worst games I'll play on my entire life
