So the NX won't be as powerful as the Scorpio but be on par with the Neo. It was delayed in order to have Zelda and other ports as launch titles
http://nintendoenthusiast.com/news/rumor-nintendo-nx-to-be-as-powerful-as-ps4-neo-announcement-coming-september/
http://www.gameblog.fr/news/59553-la-nintendo-nx-aurait-du-sortir-fin-2016-nos-informations-su
>>342130384
>rumor
Oh wow this would be great for Nintendo, it would mean they could compete on equal footing and get third party ports.
Along with their first party gems and their new innovation, they could surely get a good chunk of the market.
>>342130964
Look how many views TLoZBoTW got on Youtube, that's going to move systems. And then there's Spatoon 2!
>>342130384
Haha xd
>>342131186
>not SplaTWOn
Ya blew it
>>342130384
Would be nice if it was true, but it's a rumor so it's best not to assume anything.
Codename Jumpman confirmed?
>>342130384
>source: Nintendo enthusiast and a french blog
wew.
But if the NX really doesn't gave any gimmicks then there's a good chance it'll be on the same level as other current gen consoles.
>>342131186
>TLoZBoTW
Stop, don't do this
>NX rumors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s9yOOeH3tJE
This website has posted a load of bullshit beforre
http://www.gameblog.fr/news/34714-batman-arkham-origins-devoile-a-l-e3-2013-sur-next-gen
http://www.gameblog.fr/news/57437-devil-may-cry-5-en-chantier-nous-vous-le-confirmons
http://www.gameblog.fr/news/35171-final-fantasy-versus-xiii-sortira-sur-ps4-et-ps3
>nintendoenthusiast
>rumor
Do you also cite kdramastars as a source?
I seriously doubt it'll be as powerful as the vanilla PS4, let alone NEO.
NX was conceived under Iwata's tenure, so in all likelihood it'll be underpowered.
>>342130384
This system we know nothing about is as powerful as this other system that hasn't been revealed yet? WOWEE
>rumors
>>342131314
You could say I Splatooblewned it! ;).
Sonyggers BTFO!
Even Nintendo is on par with your "buy our underpowered ps4 again"
Also, Sony knew they were going to release the neo all along and people will be stupid enough to buy it after getting their first ps4.
Why are you letting them jew you?
Based Sony doesn't give a fuck about their consumers and it is hilarious.
>>342131821
They are quoting this website
>>342131751
>>342131829
This, wouldn't be surprised if it's just the Wii U repackaged with some gimmick.
>>342131829
>I seriously doubt it'll be as powerful as the vanilla PS4
You would be retarded to think this but ok.
>>342131631
>wew.
Remember that Nintendo love the French market.
See also : why we even get dragon quest.
>>342130384
Yet it'll still be a huge pain in the ass to develop for so nobody outside of Nintendo itself, japanese devs and indie devs will ever make games for it.
The online store will still probably be an isolated mess as well.
>>342131453
kekjumpmanjumpmanjumpman
>>342130384
This rumor is fucking stupid for so many reason, the most obvious being, how the fuck would any Nintendo insider know it's on par with the Neo?
>>342132230
>Yet it'll still be a huge pain in the ass to develop for
you ok, kid? the gamecube era is over you know.
>Popcorn? Check!
>Beer? Check!
>Comfortable? Check!
>*Omnomnom* *Slurp*
>this is going to be fun!
I think there's a good chance that the NX will be able to compete with the Neo and the Scorpio, even if it's less powerful.
If you are a current owner of the ps4 or Xbone now, you aren't going to get the Neo or Scorpio, you've already got those!
But you haven't got an NX.
>>342132161
The WiiU is barely on par with the PS3 so I'd say his doubts are accurate.
>The NX will be good if it's strong!
A console shouldn't sell for it's stats it should sell for it's library.
I don't give a fuck how powerful the NX is, my gripes with Nintendo have been more with how poorly they've been treating their IPs more than their graphics.
I won't buy a super-powered NX if it's anything NEAR as garbage as the Wii U's library.
>>342132310
My dad works at Nintendo and Sony, can confirm.
>>342132353
>Tumblr: the post
>>342130384
>"""rumor"""
>>342132414
You're retarded.
>>342132353
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>/reddit/
Enough with the consoles
Can we get some decent games please?
>>342132568
yeah it's probably wrong singe the NX will be slightly more powerful.
>>342132572
Great argument, pal.
>>342132353
>*actions*
>Omnomnom
Kill yourself.
>>342132414
The WIi U is more powerful than the PS3, but not by much.
>>342132653
The NX will be a piece of 2011 garbage tech..
>>342132667
Your argument was "Wii U isn't on par with PS3", so yes, I'm just going to call you retarded.
>>342132795
why would you think that? who do you think forced sonys hand to make a slightly more powerful ps4?
protip it wan't microsoft and the scorpio.
I don't believe this rumor because the website is shit, but why is it that any more that says it's less powerful than the Xbox One, is automatically believable, but anything that says it's remotely powerful, it's automatically bullshit.
>>342132907
They're shitposters anon, they don't have reasons for the things they think.
>>342132723
CPU wise definetly not and even the wii us gpu is behind the ps3 in a lot of parts.
The only place where the wii u has a clear lead over last gen is ram/vram, but a jump from 256MB to 512 MB isnt even really noticeable.
>seven hundred US dollars
>It has 6 USB slots!
>mario kart remaster
>>342133041
Wii U has 2 GBs of ram, 1 of which is used for the games.
>>342132334
How come with every system launch Nintendo is all "We're all about third-party support this time! Honest!" then after getting some multi-plat launch window titles all the third-party devs say "Nah, we're done."
>Make a CIA Funko Pop
>Call it Nathan Drake
Okay
>>342132869
>The WiiU is barely on par with the PS3
Bot him, but goddamn you're embarassing
>NES dominated
>SNES dominated
>In one generation Sony took over the home console marketshare with PS1 and all third party companies practically stopped caring about Nintendo home consoles even to this day
What the fuck happened? Did Sony bribe them?
>>342132935
All rumors are bullshit unless they have something to back them up, but this one in particular would have to be someone with close ties to both Nintendo and Sony to be real.
>>342132907
Do you have a single fact to back any of that up
>>342132907
It was already said to keep players away from PC and stay in the PS ecosystem
>>342133191
Which is still not accurate. The Wii U is demonstrably more powerful than the PS3.
>>342132907
>who do you think forced sonys hand to make a slightly more powerful ps4?
Sony themselves.
They invested hundreds of millions into vr and then realized that they can run it on their platform and need a revision.
>>342133402
PSVR can run on PS4 and will launch in a couple of months.
>>342133387
do you even have a single fact to back that up
>>342133292
Not him, but it was pretty obvious it was why they did it. They did the same thing with the PS4 in the first place.
Well there's a reason why there are so little ethnic consumers of Nintendo consoles and games. It's always plagued them and it'll always be the case.
And the reason is Nintendo doesn't pander to niggers and spics, it doesn't idolize the crime life.
It's the reason that Nintendo is getting a smaller share of the market generation to generation, it's because the illegal population from places like Mexico is steadily growing and creating white flight. And in Europe's case it's the influx of Pakis.
So it's kind of bitter sweet in a way that the downfall of Nintendo is a representation of the displacement of the white race.
>>342130964
It's still mid-gen tho for most consumers, so who knows how many people are going to buy a new console.
I have no plans to buy a Neo because it still seems shitty to me that I bought a console about a year and a half ago expecting the normal lifecycle of a console, and then they suddenly decide to put out "ps4, the better version". I can still get upcoming Sony exclusives, but at some point they might start looking and running relatively shit as the Neo gets favorability.
But the NX is actually a new console that I can't get games for unless I own it, so I'm probably going to get it at some point. Plus I actually enjoyed the Wii U. I have like, 2 exclusives for the ps4. There are upcoming exclusives and all, so that is good, but if Sony even jumped into a totally new console right now like Nintendo is I would think of the ps4 as one of the shittiest consoles I've ever owned because they barely released any good exclusives for it.
>>342133530
and the amount of buyers remorse will be fucking glorious
>>342133538
the fuck did I just read
>>342133531
Yes you memer. Compare the performance of Bayo on PS3 to the performance of a PORT of the same game on Wii U.
>>342130384
>but be on par with the Neo
I'm not paying $399 for a fucking NX.
What the fuck Nintendo?
>>342133214
>SNES dominated
Not exactly. It still sold more than the Genesis but in terms of sales they were somewhat close
>>342132429
But anon, people just want a powerful plastic box, they don't give a fuck about games. Microsoft know that, that's why they're making the most powerful console ever. Then, you will have retards circle jerking because they play COD on the most powerful system.
>>342133707
Wasn't the WiiU version of Bayo remade entirely?
>>342133538
WE WON BRUH
>>342130384
if the rumor is true, that's pretty good
but I still won't buy a NX anyways
>>342131751
FF Versus XIII was a PS4/PS3 game before it got rebooted in 2012.
>>342133707
>Compare the performance of Bayo on PS3 to the performance of a PORT of the same game on Wii U
Compare the perfomance between PS3 bayo and Xbox 360 Bayo while you're at it.
If you're going to cherrypick at least pick a game that doesn't have an infamously bad PS3 port.
>>342132353
You're being facetious right?
>>342133530
>he bought into the PR lies
PS4 is nowhere near powerful enough to play VR at any kind of satisfactory level.
>>342133780
Well, they're objectively wrong since Microsoft is porting all of their exclusives to PC. If you want to the best machine you can get, why go console at all? Especially one that is barely even clinging to what exclusives it has. Everyone keeps expecting their games to be ported to PC, and it keeps happening.
>>342133530
@900p30fps, no thanks, even Sony realized this is a horrible idea and that has to mean something.
>>342130384
Nice sources there, chief.
Meanwhile actual sources have been downplaying the NX's hardware for a while now. Between Reggie saying it's "not about teraflops", Ubisoft saying it'll bring back the Wii crowd, and this from CDPR talking about the NX:
>Host: But the hardware will be much worse than the new Xbox.
>Fabian: I think this will never again be the main emphasis in the future [for Nintendo]. Can it [NX] be better than the new Xbox? Take a realistic point of view: is Nintendo able to build a console that has got more power than Xbox?
So not only is the NX unlikely to be drastically more powerful than the Wii U, but it seems like people actually think it's outright impossible for Nintendo to even build a powerful console.
>>342133690
Well it's fucking true mate.
>>342133918
Listen you retard, the Wii U being more powerful than the PS3 is a fact that has been known for ages. You can cry "CHERRY PICKING" until you're blue in the face but that doesn't change the fact that you're wrong.
>>342134221
Nintendo built that perception themselves.
>>342134312
>this post
Do we need to play Facts and Opinions again, anon?
>>342130384
I'd love it, but I won't be surprised if the NX isn't as strong as PS4.
>>342133707
Bayo on Wii U still runs pretty awful.
>>342134221
>Ubisoft saying it'll bring back the Wii crowd
>bring back the Wii crowd
Ruh-roh
>>342134213
>900p30 fps
When no PS4 games run at 60 anyway? Not a chance. To get to 30 on PS4 base model they will have to drastically lower the resolution.
>>342134448
>60fps with frame drops is "pretty awful"
>>342134312
>gets btfo
>"listen you retard I'm still right"
kek
>>342132353
autism
>>342134435
No because this is not a matter of opinion you ignorant nigger.
>>342130384
>but several remasters as well, such as Skyward Sword, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros
It's ok when
>>342133536
So no facts then, just /v/ pretending they know anything about business?
>>342130384
>rumor
Disregarded.
>>342134681
Literally just Google it, memefag.
>>342133146
That literally only happened with the Wii U
>>342134975
No anon, we don't have a quote from a Sony exec saying "we're only announcing the Neo because we're scared of the NX".
Fucking retard.
>>342134221
One, Fabian was joking about that interview
Second, how does not making a console more powerful than the Scorpio mean that it won't be powerful at all
>>342134541
There is a difference between vr and normal games.
And 900p 30fps is straight up unplayable in VR
>>342132353
>>342133214
Yes.
Sony gave Square a $100 million dollar marketing budget for Final Fantasy VII. Not just the company in general, just FFVII.
There's a reason third parties don't want to support Nintendo. They don't give out handouts like that.
>>342135218
This, but also the problem is that the hardware is still so different than the others; 3rd party developers only make games for your system if they can shit out a port with minimal effort.
>>342133214
discs
if nintendo didn't cuck over sony and they just made the cd using nintendo with them, nintendo would have the only console on the market
>>342135451
I am aware of that. It is also something a PS4 is not capable of unless their headset somehow handles half of the processing.
>>342135643
>Nintendo goes back to Carts because Disks are now becoming obsolete
It's true Sony has is paranoid, you only have to ask around.
They have learned to be arrogant like they were pre PS3 era, as they are aware that Nintendo is capable of blind siding them and taking it all away from them again.
Nindendo is a wild card, they either succeed spectacularly or fail miserably. If they were to come out with a system close to Neo at a cheaper price, or if they came out with launch lineup that appealed to minorities, it could railroad Sony.
>>342135105
One of the first results on google
>http://game-consoles.specout.com/compare/61-66/Sony-PlayStation-3-vs-Nintendo-Wii-U
>less than half the CPU speed of the PS3
>Equal GPU
>3 cores vs PS3's 8 cores
It's getting to the point where it's painful to read your posts.
>>342131314
No, anon, it's Spla2oon
>>342133729
10 million apart isn't close retard.
>>342135814
>appeal to minorities
Niggers and spics need to fuck off. Nobody wants PayDay 17
>>342135921
SplatIIn, scrub.
it's usually cheaper to get 1 million units of a part currently in production than to get 1 million units of a part from 3 years ago
i don't understand how people think consoles are manufactured
>>342135817
Just a cursory glance confirms this is wrong, try again.
>>342130384
>$699 for a upscaled 4k experience at 30fps.
If this is true this going to be the best hit in the dark sonygger ass.
>>342130384
That picture may be a joke, but why do people ever sell or trade-in their consoles?
The return versus the investment is just terrible.
>>342136030
Well it's the reason Nintendo continues to lose ground, you have to kiss the ring of tha kangz.
>>342135817
cores have no relation to speed
a 2 core desktop is faster than an 8 core cell phone
>>342130384
>Skyward Sword remake
Bullshit. Skyward Sword requires motion controls and Nintendo confirmed themselves that the NX is moving away from the Wii brand so no more wiimotes.
You can't just remove motion controls from Skyward Sword, the entire game is built around using Motion +. If any of you faggots actually played it you would know that it's literally the core of the experience.
>>342136010
Good thing I didn't just say "close"
It's not complete domination either.
>>342136146
nice arguement, care to point out what part is wrong
>>342135817
CPU clock speed doesn't mean the fastest CPU is more powerful stupid
I can overclock a pentium 4 to 5 GHz and underclock a Intel i7 5820k to 1.7 GHz, does that mean the Pentium 4 is more powerful?
>>342136345
>Nintendo confirmed themselves that the NX is moving away from the Wii brand so no more wiimotes.
You gonna post a source bud?
>>342136491
Without doing any in-depth research, it says PS3 uses Bluetooth and Wii U does not, when all of the wireless controllers on Wii U connect via Bluetooth. This is the reason people use the pro controller on their PC. If you fuck up something that basic, I don't trust a word of what you have to say.
>The console is as powerful as PS4 Neo
https://youtu.be/Xhl5sk9i6Mk
>>342130384
can we get decent software for once?
>>342136227
>cores have no relation to speed
Only if core's arent being used, otherwise yes they do
>a 2 core desktop is faster than an 8 core cell phone
Which is due to a variety of factors, When did I say cores were the only thing that mattered
>>342136534
>>342136783
> when all of the wireless controllers on Wii U connect via Bluetooth
But the bluetooth doesn't support any other devices that weren't made specifically for the WiiU unlike the PS3.
>>342137474
>But the bluetooth doesn't support any other devices that weren't made specifically for the WiiU unlike the PS3.
Yes, and? It is still incorrect.
>>342130384
gamestop is such a fucking ripoff
>mfw we're going to get these fucking rumors until September/October at the very earliest
Please just reveal it already, Nintendo. It's getting ridiculous.
>>342137474
>When did I say cores were the only thing that mattered
>3 cores vs PS3's 8 cores
there is no backtracking
you inferred cores were related to the strength difference between the two systems
they are not related at all
you are an illiterate
>>342130384
>rumor, it is said, according to.
Aren't people tired of speculation?
>>342135562
Don't forget the Billion dollar investment just so they wouldn't develop on Nintendo and Sega consoles. Or paying for console exclusivity on Tomb Raider 2 even when Saturn and N64 versions were in development
>>342133530
https://www.engadget.com/2016/06/17/VR-at-E3-2016/
>Even players who've spent countless hours in virtual reality (like our own Jess Conditt) found themselves on the verge of puking while playing Resident Evil 7: Biohazard -- and it wasn't because of the horror game's gory visuals either. No, it's that the game is pushing the limits of PlayStation's hardware, barely managing to run at the minimum 60 frames per second required for PSVR. The problem? Every other VR headset on the market recommends that games run at a minimum of 90 fps.
>By having such a low bar for entry, Sony is allowing PlayStation VR developers to create games that flirt with simulator sickness. Combined with the fact that the demo's controls allowed the player to move their head with the gamepad, and the title is a nauseous mess. Resident Evil 7 will probably improve its framerate and controls before hitting the consumer market, but giving it the option not to be better sets a dangerous precedent: If the first console VR games to hit the market make players sick, that could severely damage public perception of virtual reality gaming in general.
>>342137775
oh and before the reply "how can i be illiterate and reply xd checkmate", technological illiteracy is what applied here
>>342136715
https://www.vg247.com/2016/05/16/nintendo-nx-is-neither-the-successor-to-the-wii-u-nor-to-the-3ds/
Halfway through, there's a ton of articles about it.
>>342134067
>Why go console at all.
Not everyone is as informed as most people on here. just something you gotta deal with. the thing about this situation is that the way Microsoft announced the console it to have these incredible specs makes me think that the console will have an incredibly high price point were probably looking at another 600 USD situation honestly where the price point is so high that you might as well buy a computer or the cheaper competitors and given the microsofts current reputation that shit isnt going to fly very well.
>remaster of smash broas
how do u even remaster a 1080p60 game on consoles? add more polygons?
>>342137775
>you inferred cores were related to the strength difference between the two systems
they are not related at all
They are if they're being used, but you seem to be ignoring that for some reason.
The only way to make Smash hype would be if remastered included Smash 64 and Melee as well, like if they left the mechanics untouched just in HD. If they want the actual fans and fanbase, they'll go for Melee.
>>342130964
>third party ports.
Why does anyone still think this will matter at all? No one will buy a brand-new console to play the same games they can just get on PS4.
The audience for AAA multiplats is not on Nintendo's platforms, better hardware won't magically change that and grab millions and millions of customers. 3rd-parties don't want to make anything but AAA blockbusters, they don't want to make anything that actually competes with Nintendo's 1st-party so they just don't support their platforms outside of games like Just Dance or Skylanders.
>>342138149
Slap shitty lighting effects on it.
That*s pretty much every single 'remaster' that was made within the last three years.
>>342138420
you don't understand in the slightest what you are talking about
do you know how many cores the ps3 is able to use to process game data, rather than ones for the operating system and sound systems?
do you know ps3's code structure is limited to in order execution?
do you know how many cpu cycles are wasted because of that?
do you know the ps3's instructions per clock?
Can we all agree that no one, who isn't a developer close to Nintendo, knows what the NX is?
>nintendo
>good hardware
This hasn't been true since the gamecube days, I'll believe it when I see it
>>342133658
>I bought a console about a year and a half ago
Don't blame Sony or Microsoft for you joining this gen late.
>>342138080
That could still be a bad thing, they could somehow make it worse than the Wii series, so let's just hope that's not the case.
Even if it's like the GameCube it'd still be better.
>>342130964
They still wont get shit if theres forced gimmicks and weird architecture
>>342130384
>Same graphics quality
>Free online service
>Humble Bundle
>Better Exclusives
IT'S NOT FAIR PLIZ STOP THE #ps4shaming
#freethepsn and #pcforps4
>>342138447
But Meleefags are the worst Smashfans you can pander. All they care about is muh competitive.
If Melee gets a remaster I'm never buying a Smash game again.
>>342139449
Don't worry, even if Melee HD happens they'll all still say it's shit and play the original version.
>>342139449
>melee stopped being fun because a bunch of people I never interact with play it differently than me!
kys retard
>>342139384
>weird architecture
You mean not the same x86 shit the other two consoles have?
I remember when all consoles had "weird architecture" and it meant better and more varied games.
>>342136805
This is probably going to be the biggest b8 in vidya history. Remember memetendo loves it's memes
>>342130384
Why the fuck do people act like the Neo wont' adapt to meet the scorpio in terms of power? Nothings set in stone yet.
>>342130384
Remember when we had the exact same rumors about Wii U?
>>342139943
I don't even hate Melee, but pandering to it's crowd is the worst thing you could do.
>>342140076
Because Neo's specs leaked back in April and production timing for an AMD Semi-Custom APU is 18 months with a release later this year. Sony was planning this since 2015 and the specs were set in stone months ago
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-are-4k-visuals-really-the-best-use-for-playstation-neo-and-project-scorpio
>Several sources have indicated to me that PlayStation Neo launches this year, despite its E3 no-show. If that is the case, it'll be interesting to see how developers utilise its resources, and whether 4K really is the focus. And we can be equally as sure that Microsoft will be watching just as intently as it gears up for its own next-gen roll-out
Sony's planning an Apple style rollout of being in stores soon after announce. There's no "Adaptiing" for the Neo when it's already booked in for manufacture and the component materials have been purchased?
>>342140507
>leaks and rumors mean its set in stone!
Believe it when I see it, no way in hell will they launch a less powerful competitor when Xbone just flat out admitted their specs way early.
>>342140076
Because at this point it basically is. The thing is if they're already saying that the Scorpio is going to be sold at a premium price then I can guarantee that we will have another $599 US Dollars meme on our hands. And if the consumer can all play their games on cheaper consoles why would they spend more
Both the PS3 and 3DS were DOA due to the price and didn't pick up steam until they dropped prices
Part of the reason the will was so successful was that it launched at half the price of its competitors
The PS2 was able to be sold at $300 at launch due to the fact it was still cheaper than buying a DVD player at the time
Neo and NX will be in the $299-$399 price range
The Scorpio will most likely be $599+
And if you look at what most people play on Xbox and PlayStation, no one is paying $200 more to play FIFA and Call of Duty
>>342141025
It's too late to change. PS4 Neo was always planned for this year and the specs were set in stone months ago when the development manuals leak. No matter how much you deny it. It's still happening with 4.14TF, 8 Core Jaguar CPU and 8GB GDDR5 Ram as the specs.
>>342139818
I hope this happens
Then at EVO 2017 after the champion has been announced they tell them they were playing the NX version the entire time
>>342140178
That it would be more powerful than 360/PS3 and it was to an extent. Yeah I remember
>>342141136
>Neo and NX will be in the $299-$399 price range
Then either PS4.5 is only a minor upgrade and is kind of pointless or Sony will be selling them at a loss, something I don't think they'd do after losing $5 billion on PS3 doing just that.
>>342141025
If it's coming this year it is by now, they have to actually, you know, make these things if they want people to buy them, and that has to happen months ahead of time.
>>342135562
>They don't give out handouts like that.
>what is bayonetta 2
>>342142286
A game Platinum was asking people to pay for?
