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I get why this would flop here, but why did it flop in japan?Don't the nips


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I get why this would flop here, but why did it flop in japan?

Don't the nips eat this idol shit up?
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It didn't the first couple of weeks. Japan had a Wii U shortage because of it.
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>>342105707
>Dont the nips eat this idol shit up?
Only in a world where memes are fact.

What are those sales like, anyway?
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>>342105707

>Wii u exclusive

Has there ever been a succesfull Wii u exclusive that wasn't also made by nintendo?

Beside why buy this game when the vita is a treasure trove of weeb shit?
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Game actually looks fun though.
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>>342105707
>Don't the nips eat this idol shit up
No.

Where did you hear that?
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Looked shit anyway. Combining two franchises together and ignoring what makes them individually good in the first place is asking for a disaster.
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So what happened to that Fire Emblem X Shin Megami Tensei thing? Haven't heard anything about it in ages.
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>>342106417
v
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>>342105894
It sold 1/5 of a Persona release.
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Being into idols doesn't necessarily mean being into video games.
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>>342108380
That means nothing. What were the actual numbers?
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>>342105782
It sold like utter shit the first weeks imbecile

Shortages didn't do shit
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>>342105707
>Today anon realises he's been lied to by literal weebs.
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it aint idolmaster or love live

Japs prob think it some cheap ass copycat on some shit console
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>>342105707
>Forgettable and bland characters (especially the main ones) and cliche predictable story
>Pandering to the Love Live/Idolm@ster crowd by making it saccharine and exploitative instead of taking a deeper look at the darker and sketchier side of the idol industry like what Persona 4 Dancing All Night did
>Ignoring what made Shin Megami Tensei and Fire Emblem good and iconic in the first place by including nothing from the SMT series and only a few Fire Emblem characters
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>>342108529
I-I don't have them I'm sorry
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>>342105707
Its a shit game
Yes Japan still eats up idols. The best selling anime this season and probably next season is Macross.
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A friend has it and he pretty much said, it has awesome battle system and game mechanics just sadly covered in idol shit. So it's unfortunately one of those never judge a game by its cover syndrome like Codename Steam.
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The game is garbage and looks like something that should've been a mobile game, not a console one.
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>>342109796
>>>/s4s/
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>>342109512
theres a new macross? man i should keep up to date on my animus
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I remember seeing the Kowashitai trailer and having no idea this was the SMT x Fire Emblem game until they said so after the trailer. What the fuck were they thinking?
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>>342109896
Reading the interview that came out, they didn't really know either.
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>>342109796
Is mobile calling the new epic meme?
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>>342105707
I actually would have bought it just for shits and giggles but the censorshit killed it for me.
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>>342110193
>not buying for the censorshits and giggles
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>>342110475
I refuse to support censorship.
Maybe I'll pirate it in a year or two
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I want this idol meme to die. It's infesting everything, it's too much, idols are such garbage.
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>>342106027
Bayonetta did pass the million copies
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>>342110656
I personally can't stand it either. Idol stuff should just stick with whatever merchandise that isn't video games.
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>>342110656
Maybe Trails wouldn't put people to sleep if it was an idol game though.
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>>342110656
mishishi
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>>342110656

>idols are garbage
>having this shit opinion in 2016

Mate, I think you mean Love Live is garbage Idolm@ster is where its at.
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>>342110656
Yeah, Rion was annoying and her chapter had the super generic message about muh idols saving people with their songs. And then she becomes maji tenshi Rion-chan.
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>>342110880
you take that back
honestly it's probably going there, judging by the trend started by crossbell and continuing through erebonia
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>>342110193

I'm still torn on whether or not to buy.

I am jonesing hard for a new smt style (gameplay) game, and the E3 video confirmed that this would be a decent holdover until P5.

>>342110656

I also feel this very strongly. Macross Delta gets a pass but the rest of it just doesn't stick with me.
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>>342110998
I don't care about your idol shows. They're probably fine. I don't watch them and I don't know anything about them. I just want idols to stop infesting non-idol-based games.
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>>342105782
It sold worse than Fallout 4 (a game already out) in Japan the first week it was out, you're an idiot
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>>342111178
But there's no SMT recruiting mechanic in this game
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>>342105782
Someone has a link PersonaCentral that compares the sales of SMTxFE to Persona and SMT games. Game sold like shit all across the board.

What did it do, less than 20,000? Yakuza 1 & 2 HD remake on Wii U in Japan sold less than 15,000 and SEGA lost money.
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>>342111201

>I just want idols to stop infesting non-idol-based games.

Never.
Idols have become such an important part of modern Japanese culture that they'll never likely go away.
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>>342111178
It's got SJ combat (widly accepted to be the weakest of the modern SMTs) without the variety from demon fusion and with obnoxiously long animations

I feel no desire to play it
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The concept of old FE characters being stands is cool but they completely fucked it to tears with the idolshit.
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>>342111349
It fucking sold less than Ronde, which Atlus received death threats over and had a demo that was famous for causing widespread pre-order cancellation
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>>342111275

Yeah I mean basic shit like "turn based and de/buffs usually matter"

Also I unironically like the color puke motif of the dungeons.

Normally I'd just replay something, but the last year has been me casually working through mainline SMT + Persona to get hype for P5. I'd love something completely new to me.
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Ask yourself who the market for this game is.

Was it for Fire Emblem fans? Besides a few of the character names, the weapon triangle, and turning into just Marth at the end, no.

Was it for SMT fans? I mean, it had the names for skills, but no demon negotiation or really anything that made an SMT game enjoyable to SMT fans. So no on that end either.

Was it for idolshit fans? Not really, because most of them are on PS3 obsessed with either Idolmaster of Love Live, or real-life idols.

Honestly this game had literally no market. It was for people who liked idolshit, didn't have a vested interest in seeing a proper SMTxFE game come out, and people who wanted a happy-go-lucky story about the power of love and friendship
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>>342111804
There's pretty much no romance in #FE
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>>342111804
>Ask yourself who the market for this game is.

Why would I? As long as I enjoy it I couldn't give two shits about the market. That's Nintendo's problem.

Good game to scratch the Atlus RPG itch until P5.
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>>342111906
okay?
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>>342110998
>Idolm@ster is where its at.
But only real idols, not CG and ML shit.
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https://twitter.com/opkowashitai
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My only worry is that my preorder doesn't arrive before the weekend.
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>>342112238

And only cute girl idols. NO CUTE BOYS
DO NOT LIKE THIS CUTE BOY ESPECIALLY
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>>342111804
It's for persona fans it seems. Or is Persona 3 and 4 not filled to the brim with waifu shit? I swear to god it's like you people forgot SMT had always been animu as fuck.
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>>342113519
SMT isn't Persona
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>>342112042
You don't seem to understand what that guy was saying at all
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>>342108990
>dark side of idol like P4DAN
so rise fucked a dude and get executed pretty much?
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>>342106417

well then who was the fucking audience for this game? Clearly it wasn't for FE or SMT fans.
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>>342108990

>including nothing from the SMT series

BUT MUH STRANGE JOURNEY BATTLE SYSTEM!
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>>342113519
Mainline SMT isn't Persona waifu garbage, my shitposting friend.
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>>342109605

>like Codename Steam

but that game was good. Americana and steampunk are WAY better than idolshit and future fantasy.
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>>342112076
that is what made me not want to buy the game
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>>342115358
Oh the game is good. The issue is that tons of people were hammering the game's look because it's steampunk and not their typical anime bullshit.

I personally didn't have a problem with it but many people kept saying I'm not buying it because of its steampunk looks.
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>>342113519

>persona fans

but there are no social links, no fusions, the dungeons work different and no romances

also the OST is trash despite the money they threw at it.
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>>342105707
it didn't flop in japan. This was a multimedia project and it made back every cent. It's not iconic but it was a success.
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Canceled my pre-order today
It's probably autism but I can't find joy when it's more a Treehouse game than an Atlus game.
Not just that but ever since it's been released it's been nothing but negativity.
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>>342115662
Treehouse has nothing to do with this game though.
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>>342115662
Maybe if your only source of 'information' is /v/.
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>>342115493
I'm not sure if it was the steampunk aesthetic as much as it was the execution

The environments were nice for a 3DS game, but the characters were ugly as fuck
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>>342115646
/v/ calls everything that doesn't sell 2 million a flop
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>>342115745
oh no people were tearing apart the steampunk aesthetic during the few weeks after release. It was really unbearable to listen to.
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>>342115728

>nothing to do with it
>localization literally changes the entirety of a main character's arc dungeon because boobs

Tsubasa's dungeon went from being less embarassed about her body image to a generic fashion statement.
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>>342115634
The OST is fantastic you autist
Also weapons are created by fusion and the dungeons are superior, P5's dungeons stray from past persona dungeons as well. There are side stories which are sort of like social links mixed with supports, but there's just no romance in them.
I think you should check your facts.
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>>342115873
because it's a bit shit

I really love the american history shit though, and I found it upsetting how a lot of Americans didn't even know who the characters were
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>>342115940
The game is localized by Atlas following what NoA wants.
Treehouse is not involved.
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>>342115873
It's because the steampunk aesthetic is creatively bankrupt and only the most degenerate of degenerates enjoy it.
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>>342115959
>The OST is fantastic you autist
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>>342115728
Worded it terribly, Sorry.
The phrase escapes me but from translation side of things It doesn't feel like it's atluses games.

Like when you read a translated text, It's not the author's words you're reading but a translators.

>>342115737
Where is praising this game?
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>>342106027
Splatoon was basically a cultural phenomenon in Japan and that's a Wii U exclusive.
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>>342115745

that may have been due to the artstyle. the designs themselves I felt were great and at worst a little too uniform due to the group wearing the same shit with exceptions. Also any game that uses Lovecraftian lore can't be entirely shit.
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>>342116109
Doesn't look like English is your first language
Which sucks for you because this game is only Japanese with an English sub. Even in the EU
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>>342115940
>people care for the actual ''story reason''
>not the fact that muh titties are not there anymore
You ain't fooling anyone, anon.
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are battle banters not subtitled? That kind of sucks if true.
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>>342116416
They are not
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>>342115358
>There are Codename Steam fans

take a screencap of this lonely fucker because you won't see them again for a long time
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>>342116329

the guys are still allowed in black tighties with bulges. shit even fire emblem didn't allow that in the localization.
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>>342116604
>shit even fire emblem didn't allow that in the localization.
But none of the classes had a costume change.
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>>342105707
>Don't the nips eat this idol shit up?

I don't live in Japan so I don't know how it really works but I always figured that the only ones who eat that stuff up are the bottom of the barrel otaku and the average Japanese person, or even the average Japanese gamer wouldn't really care that much.
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>>342116549

how about instead of still blindly judging off of shitposters back when it came out and give a chance you autist. it's been on clearance forever.
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>>342107478

OP's pic is the "crossover". The only thing it really brings from SMT is the gameplay. The theme is centered around idols and the entertainment industry and the main plot revolves around a bunch of entertainers whose "performas" are Fire Emblem characters. It's the last anyone expected to come from a crossover between FE and SMT, which is why opinions are so divided concerning the game. Censorship doesn't help its case, either.
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Waiting for a translated JP ISO so I can play without the shitty censorship
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>>342107478
You are looking at it
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>>342117121
I guarantee no one will give enough of a fuck to make one
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>>342106417
There was some tripfag guy named TharjaAnon or something claiming the guy was loved in Japan. Then again tripfags are retards so meh.
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>>342112864
makoto a BEST
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Someone post the awful wedding dress turned bodysuit pic please
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Be honest with me.
Which one of you guys in in charge of the operation kowashitai twitter account?
It's fucking hilarious.
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>>342105707
>Don't the nips eat this idol shit up?
Not if you put the Shin Megami Tensei name on it. Same reason why federation force got backlash.

It's more like Persona x Neo Fire Emblem
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>>342115493
Steampunk aesthetic is the most fedora-tier shit in existence.
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I can't wait for damage control part 2: Zio Boogaloo.
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Daily Reminder that even the Nips are laughing at the people who will buy this censored garbage:

http://blog.esuteru.com/archives/8606187.html
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>>342118370

Holy shit, feels bad.
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>>342118370
>NeoGAFより

>listneing to retards who visit that shithole
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>>342118370
Meanwhile they have a hard time with gore over there.
It's a weird world.
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>>342118726
>damage control
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>>342118757
It's especially weird since gore like severed hands and exploding body parts is present in anime so much. And all the blood.

Same thing with female nipples. Both are allowed in everyday TV shows or books but video games are somehow different
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>>342105707
It flopped because it's a shitty game. This isn't a case of someone not appreciating the game very much, the title just simply isn't that good.

This shit is like AVGN material once he runs out of older games in 30 years.
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>>342118726
NeoGAF mocks anyone who complains when NoA censors things and commends NoA for fixing Japan's "creepy" mistakes.

This explains why Nintendo gets away this shit when they really shouldn't, Censorship is NEVER ok.
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>>342120042
Gore is almost always blacked out in the original releases and only shown in the blu-rays
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>>342120464
So? Games come on blu-rays too
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>>342118370
>even nips are subject to persona and megaten shitflinging
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>>342116958
>>342117269
Ha ha, very funny.

Seriously though, what happened to it?

Was it cancelled?
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>>342120760
it warms my heart to know we're not so different after all
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>>342120839
yes
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>>342117437
>TharjaAnon
>retard
That's a severe understatement. He's one of the worst obsessive waifufags to emerge from /feg/ in the past few years, the only ones who surpassed him are BelkaAnon (who attempted to commit suicide because people were bullying his waifu (he failed)), and possibly some fellow who liked Hinoka a little too much.
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>>342120839
They aren't joking.
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>Japan has idols everywhere already
>game doesn't really do much to stand out

It's not rocket science.
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>>342118370
It's funny how much more censorship was found since that compilation was made.

Can't wait for when the game actually releases and we uncover all the rest
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>>342120839
That's what became of the project, anon. When we all saw the trailer April 1st plenty of us thought it was a joke too. Unfortunately it's not.
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>>342121118
OK guys, the joke's gone on long enough, time to knock it off.

Seriously, is SMTxFE coming out soon or not?
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>>342105707

no romances despite hot female protagonists.

fuck you too Atlus
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>>342121679
The game has plenty of implied romance.

I don't see your problem
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Idol games don't sell unless its Miku Idolm@ster can barely push 50k so they make their money off the DLCs + CDs
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>>342105707
It was a game made out of 2 combined franchises. Somehow the new game resembled neither. When you pander to a niche you have to give them what they want.

They thought they could pander to both, and they ended up pandering to neither. Who else is going to buy the game?
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>>342121776

I want my self-insert romancing hot babes like no tomorrow if the games featured hot girls and is a RPG from Japan.

Otherwise I will less interested and will focus my wallet on other games that garner my attention.
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>>342115959
>The OST is fantastic you autist
Hahahaha im not gonna bother teasing all your autistic tantrum After that sentence
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>>342118370

>even covered her in the jap release

jesus christ
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>>342122513
better get used to it
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>>342122513
>>342122860
If you mean Aversa, she isn't covered. It's just a camera angle showing the underside of her boobs which have clothes.
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>>342123062
I think he meant the zipper pants
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>>342122860

lolno

>>342123062

I mean Kiria

I was literally buying this game for the sexual undertones of shin megami tensei applied to fire emblem waifus, but this literally kills any purpose.
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>bayonetta released years ago
>sex shit everywhere
>extremely lewd
>nothing censored
>this shit releases now
>borderline allahu ackbar'd the game to cover everything and removing content

unacceptable, won't buy it
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>>342123416
That's because Bayonetta had the big names looking after it.
#FE doesn't.
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>>342123784

Japanese Phil Fish is the best.
no fucks given to anyone.
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>>342123416
>>342123784
You retards do not get it do you, did you ever see who localized bayonetta 2? It was platinum with no influence from
NoA same with devils third

What games got censored? Games that NoA had a hand in localizinf
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>>342123245
At least the japanese artbook still has the original kiria in it

Not so sure about the US one since we already know it's confirmed to have all the changes they made in the US version
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>>342115728
Atlus sure as hell didn't butcher it. When was the last time one of their Nintendo releases got put through the grinder like TMS did?

That leaves us with NoA. Are you going to sit there with a straight face and tell me that someone who works at NoA, yet isn't part of Treehouse, was hand picked to sterilize this game? Fuck no.

My money's on this guy. He used to work at Atlus, so NoA might have sent him over as a "consultant".
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>>342124141
forgot image
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>>342123967
Pretty much yeah.

It's weird seeing NoA try and figure out what their target audience is.

>>342124215
Treehouse isn't the entirety of NoA you know.
And you can literally Google the fact that it's Atlus under NoA.
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I'll buy it just for this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NyB4wOn4lVM
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FEfags hate it
SMTfags hate it
Personafags hate it
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>>342124787
>FEfags hate it
at first yes, now that I played it no.

Not the best game but solid
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>>342122380
First of all, that's because you have absolutely no rebuttal. Second, music taste is completely subjective, making what you said pants on head retarded. Dignifying it with a response was a mistake on my part.
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>>342110656
>idols are such garbage
FAG
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>>342112864
That was a great episode
might rewatch
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FIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIAHHHHHHHHHH EMBUREEEEEM
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>>342105707

They made it have nothing to do with SMT, very little to do with Fire Emblem and made it a half-hearted Persona-lite.

It pissed off just about every potential audience.
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>>342125419
And then censored it cutting off even more potential buyers.
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>>342105707
>My common knowledge is made out of memes
Poor retard
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>>342118370
I have no plans on buying this game and never really cared about censorship, but kinda feel sorry for the people who were going to buy this. NoA should know damn well how niche the audience for this game is and they decide to censor stuff which is pretty damn tame for a t rated game. Just asking for this thing to tank.
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>>342125595
Still waiting for an apology or I will never buy a localized game again
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>>342125595
Censorship retards are a loud minority though, when the game flops it's certainly not gonna be because of them
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>>342125419
>half-hearted Persona-lite
Personafags need to stop flattering themselves
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>>342125674
I would have a WiiU by now if all the game I wanted weren't censored
It's ridiculous.
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>>342118370

I genuinely would have bought this game if it wasn't for this shit, and I seriously mean that
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>>342125763
Too bad, that vocal minority is definitely this game's main audience.
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>>342118370
>no hot springs DLC

a-at least the gameplay is still good, right?
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>>342126028
Whiny manchildren who care more about anime panties than games themselves (sort of like SJWs and social agendas)? They're nobody's audience m8.
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>>342118370

>no subtitles for battle dialogue

This always fucking pisses me off, I think it was a Tales game I played where they had plotty dialogue in the battles and you couldn't understand any of it unless you selected English.
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>>342126197
It's actually very good, and a very good game overall.
That said you shouldn't buy it.
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>>342126309
ToS remake at least added in the subs

Localizers are just lazy.
And yes there is plotty dialogue in this game
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>>342125763

When your game is probably going to sell in the 100,000s at most, you can't piss off the people you'd rely on to buy the game, be positive about it and help maintain a long tail of sales
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>>342125763
Pretty much only loud minorities buy the niche animu games so it's not a good idea to piss them off.
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>>342126303
Yeah sure retard, go call peoples with standards who don't want to be cucked by companies "whiny manchildren", it sure helps your argument.
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>>342126465

Do they just expect reviewers to overlook not being able to understand key moments of the game?
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>>342125763
Word of mouth is deadly for your game when you're going to be selling below 200,000 units. I'm honestly surprised they went to the trouble of translating it at all when it sold like shit in Japan.
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>>342126573
Don't play the standards card because nobody in this site has them, I wipe my ass with it.
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>>342126669
No I think they recieved an excel transcript of all the original text in the game and translated just that.
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>>342126309
Battle dialogue means you can't understand the "I've got this!"and "Leave it to me!" like things they scream during battle. There are text boxes for when bosses actually talk to you.
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>>342105707
Because despite shitposting retards, even the Japs thought they were getting SMTxFE and didn't want this. They called it kusoge and ignored it.

All the Japs that would have played this own Vita's, not Wii U's.
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>>342105707
Nintendo fans only play nintendo games, this is the same audience that tanked Yakuza 1 and 2 HD.
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>>342126843
>There are text boxes for when bosses actually talk to you.
Sometimes, but not always

There are also regular side story sequences without any subtitles, so if they had to re-program those in it's no excuse to not have battle dialogue.

But we don't even know if those segments are subtitled at all
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>>342127009
>There are also regular side story sequences without any subtitles
Source
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>>342126985
>They called it kusoge and ignored it.

It got a GOTY award though
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>>342116329
>CENSORSHIP ONLY CHANGES THE CLOTHES NOTHING ELSE WHY DON'T YOU FAGS JUST BUY IT
>SO WHAT IF IT CHANGES THE STORY, YOU FAGS ONLY CARE ABOUT THE CLOTHES SO JUST BUY IT
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>>342117437
>>342106417
>implying

There's a reason AKB48 CDs hit first place on sales, they do eat this shit up, but they are usually not gamers, just creepy dudes.
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>>342126734
So that's it.
This is an argument of an outsider, so are you a Nintendo shill or just Reddit/Neogaf?
Either way, if you think /v/ is the hugbox you like so much, you need to fuck off. No one here think the same way about shit.
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>>342118370
>日本に生まれてよかったわー
>海外はグロ規制しないのにこういうのは規制するんだな


Fuck you too you slanty eyed shit head please let me in your country ;__;
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>>342116958
>nothing that made either great
>idol shit
But why
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>>342127293
AKB isn't some random new idol game retard, and the sale do in fact proves you wrong.

Peoples don't like idols for no fucking reasons.
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>>342127086
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MyJMnBRUo1c
At 2:32:27 (slight spoilers)

And no, the one who uploaded this did not hold R to hide the text boxes. It was without text entirely when I played it.

And this is not the only occurence
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>>342127142
>Implying Japan doesn't always have it's own Nintoddlers

I'm sure the 4 people who played it agree with the award :^)
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>>342127617
Holds a lot more weight that random GG shitposters imo.
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>>342105707
I've never seen this.
OF COURSE no one would cares or mind this right? Much less censor it?
Such a coincidence. Gee, I do wonder why.
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>>342127447
Tokyo 7th Sisters is a successful smartphone game with idols, without any anime to support it and it even has singles sold.

This is clearly an audience problem, just like Catherine sold more on the PS3 even though there were more 360 when it released.
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I wouldn't call it a failure. #FE is a bit of a special case where the game didn't do that great but it has left its mark in Japan. Months later the VAs of the game host concerts and sell merch so it's not a failure. There was a concert just this month actually
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>>342127617
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uKMXJCjGApc
It's a great game, deal with it.
Of course that doesn't mean you should buy it.
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>>342125658
What meme? The game did flop in japan.
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>>342127472
Seeing as the music videos got subtitles I don't see why this wouldn't.
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>>342127796

Why are the faces in this game so... off? The art isn't exactly bad but there's a weirdness to it.
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>>342105707
This shitty game is a prime example why I fucking hate all those waifu shitposter here. #FE is what happens if you pander to autistic virgins who buy everything that has some animesluts on the cover. Pretty sure this game coul dhave been fucking great if it had a more serious setting like any SMT game. Heck, even that Persona 4 scooby doo shit high school would have worked, but what we got now is fucking pathetic.
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>>342127952
It's a game made for the most massive of otaku who just want cute girl pandering shit. Deal with it.

>>342127751
>GG

Who the fuck is talking about gaming journalism retard?
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>>342127874
For every successful virtual idol project there's 5 failed ones. Especially in videogames it basically never worked outside of games focused on the idol and dancing parts like IM@S
You can't just slap idols to a new IP and expect japan to take the bait.
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>>342127972
The music videos are actual video files on the games disc, they just had to hardsub those

In engine subtitles are a lot harder, especially when there weren't any in the original
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>>342128089
>It's a game made for the most massive of otaku who just want cute girl pandering shit. Deal with it.
>literally covering your ears and screaming
Watch the video, it goes way more than just into cute girls.
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>>342128089.
You're a fucking retard and you can't even pretend to try to get it.
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>>342128089
Now this is blatant shitposting
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>>342128078
Isn't the fact that Nintendo is NOT pandering to waifufags with almost naked animesluts what's causing most peope to complain about this game, though?
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>>342128078
Facebook is this way
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>>342128458
No it's the fact that they didn't pander to chuuni SMTfags and they instead try to do a game they wanted.

>It's only okay when they pander to me!!
Kek everytime
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>>342128459
>waaah, he doesnt act like a kissless neckbeard and still has a bit dignity left, f-fucking normie REEEEE
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>Game is announced as an SMTxFE crossover
>Game has first trailer
>trailer is literally nothing what everyone thought it would
>only way it's a crossover is the "weapon triangle" and NotPersonas and bosses being FE characters
>Nintendo keeps hyping it up like anyone cares
>meanwhile an actual FE game and various idol games are released in japan
>the game that alienated both the FE and SMT fanbases
>only hope was idol fanbase
>they already had a dozen other games made specifically for them

This is why it flopped
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>>342128624
I don't know m8, a lot of people seem to be mad about the censorship and, if they were to be belived, they'd be buying the game if not for that.
It seems to me that people were fine with the idolshit and moeblob. I'm sure they'd also be fine with generic highschool setting or super dark edge-galore, but that doesn't seem to be the issue with this one.
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>>342129446
The moment that made me lose it was this.
When they censor so hard just for the sake of censoring.

All the little trust I still had left for them was blown to pieces.
There is simply no excuse for this, not even if the people responsible quit their job.
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>>342129758
Wow, the music video where she sings with that outfit is going to look retarded. I can't wait for people to discover it.
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>>342130276
Yeah, I mean they even removed the transparency from her sleeves.
It is just beyond me how anyone could do this
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>>342129758
Right looks like a wedding dress. Left looks like fucking nothing anyone would wear. Maybe some kind of weird bird woman costume.
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>>342105707
Aside from not being what anyone expected, it's a fake waifu game; a game that tries to sell off of waifus but doesn't actually let you waifu anyone. Doesn't help that the closest you get is implied feelings with what seems to be the worst girl.
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>>342129758
here is my question, is the NoA CEO a Mussleeem?
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>>342129758
NoA has realized that some guys get a jolly off of armpits.
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>>342129758
gotta cover them disgusting shameful lewd biceps
can have that kinda sexual organ on display in a proud christian american nintendo game
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>>342130948
But then they show off their thick arms on the treehouse stream
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>>342121525
Let's move on to acceptance already. We've been at denial too long
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I think I might actually buy it because

>Wii U has fuckall for RPGs
>Looks like a solid one mechanics-wise

I mean if I don't buy it what's gonna happen? Will they stop censoring games? I think not. Nothing will change their mind sort of the whole society changing to become less cancerous. Nothing.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

I remember getting hyped as fuck when I first watched this. Then we got the j-pop idol trailer, what a fucking slap to the face it was.

I wouldn't care if it was named something else but I don't get any Fire Emblem or SMT feeling from this shit.
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>>342105707
>FExSMT
>It looks and plays nothing like a FE game
>It looks and plays nothing like a SMT game
>Sold like shit
Guys, I think I found the problem!
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>>342131708
it's a fucking atlus RPG, of course it has solid mechanics.
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>>342131708
but you'll lose money you could have saved by just using loadiine instead.
Wii U hacking is the simplest thing ever
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>>342105707
idol shit is literally 8-14 of the same generic anime bodies with different clothes, eye color and hair style

you tell me why no one wants hatsune miku number 1 or number 2, 3, or 4
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This comes out in 4 days right?
I don't really care about censorship. How's the gameplay? I love MT and most of the spin offs.
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>>342131982
>no one wants hatsune miku number 1 or number 2, 3, or 4

miku is immensely popular though
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>>342132305
I used her as a genric metaphor because this idol shit is just a shitty miku clone
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>>342132052
>How's the gameplay?
a bit unforgiving until you get used to it
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>>342105707
The nips are wising up.
>>342110750
After at least a year.
>>342116132
>Splatoon was basically a cultural phenomenon
WEW, also it was made by Nintendo
But it did sell extremely well though
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>>342132052

typical fast-paced smt battles. no press turn, but if you've played strange journey the battle system is very similar to that. a lot of room for customizing your party's skills due to large number of skill slots, unlike the usual limited skill slots of demons. there's a hard mode. dungeons are all unique, so in that sense it is also similar to SJ
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=30nfka8J8Y0

:^)
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>>342132415
No it's not. For starters it's a dungeon crawler RPG
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>>342132431
Why didn't the Treehouse censor squid girls?
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Porn of the Aversa boss WHEN
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>>342132540
>the characters are the same shit over and over with different hair, clothes, and eye colors. The genericism is like a miku clone
>no its not miku is popular and shit
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>>342131875
It might be simple but it's shoddy as fuck. You need to do it every time you turn on the console, you need to change the DNS to block updates and mandatory future updates become a headache and on top of that the system randomly crashes when running the hack so you might need to try multiple times every boot.
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>>342132430
>>342132503
Sounds like a great spin off then, I'll probably pick it up.
Besides censorship, which is admittedly a problem but never one that keeps me away from games, why is /v/ getting so pissy then?
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>>342132545
Because it sold largely on loli/shota fanservice. Literally the only reason anyone gave a shit about their shitty kiddy arena shooter.
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>>342132720
>on top of that the system randomly crashes when running the hack so you might need to try multiple times every boot.
never happened to me, and I played #FE for weeks now

All the other things you mentioned literally take 1 minute
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>>342125674
I was planning on getting a WiiU for this back when it was still FExSMT
Strongly reconsidered when zipper panties were changed for the JP release and a definite no when a bikini was changed to some punk outfit
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>>342132801
>Splatoon is a shitty kiddy arena shooter

This is the kind of retard that posts in Nintendo threads everyone
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>>342130896
No, because the hair is uncensored.
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>>342132785
Because it's affecting both the visuals and story, and because what's being censored was the main focus of the game.
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>>342132920
Yes, clearly it was designed with adults who aren't pedos in mind.
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>>342132785
I'm actually grateful that they censored this game, would have never improved my Japanese so much without them
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>>342129758
I think Treehouse has been getting worse the more people make fun of them.
I mean, originally the censored stuff wasn't even that bad, and most of the lewd stuff in games like XCX got straight through.
But this is ridiculous. This outfit wouldn't even be censored on Lyn in XCX.
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>mfw Nintendo, IS, and Atlus have to live with the fact that had they made an actual fucking crossover, it would have sold millions
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>>342118370
I was actually going to get this game if it wasn't going to be censored

I'll just wait until it's cheap for used

Also
>no subtitles for battle dialogue

That's just lazy and horrible, goodness
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>>342132785

/v/ hates SJWs. they have reason to and I don't disagree that NoA is run by SJWs I'd rather have this game sell decent and encourage more similar games than have it bomb and get more mario. At the end of the day, I care more about the gameplay than the principle of censorship, but that's just my opinion.
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>>342128279
You should upload the kowashitai vid
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>>342133265
>This is Japanese audio only
>Persona 5 will be English audio only

Why do they hate dual audio so much?
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>>342133160
That makes no sense.
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>>342133363
just download the pack_050_movie.cpk file off the game's content folder and extract all the movies yourself
https://mega.nz/#F!gh01lJRC!jXz9eQNmaLtwO2siYKqOtQ
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>>342105707
>jpop idol fans
>Atlus fans
>Fire Emblem fans
>WiiU owners

You can mash together only so many niches without flopping.
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>>342133208
There's no guarantee of that however. A "proper" crossover could have sold pretty badly like #FE did.
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>>342105707
>>342118370
>I will never get to see Ephraim dueling it out against Serph

So this is true despair, I finally feel it
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>>342134052
There's no guarantee of anything in life

Some things just have better odds than others, and a "proper" crossover would have for sure sold more
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>>342118757
It has to do with our cultures.
The US's culture has a lot of roots back to puritan society, where the body was seen as especially sacred and sexual images were frowned upon.
Meanwhile, in Japan the body is seen as pure and sacred in a different way. Things that cause impurity are blood, sickness, and death. The wholeness of the body is worshipped in shintoism, so seeing it dismembered is to see it become impure.

No idea where the porn censorship of penises and vaginas came from though, since sex isn't that big of a deal in Japan.
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>>342132545
That's a good question
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>>342134052

yeah, this guy thinking something like that would sell 1 million is insane.
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>>342118370
>THEY CENSORED THE FUCKING HORSE
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>>342131708
As much as it pains me, I have to agree with this anon. Despite how bothersome the censoring shit has been, if the things they removed were everything this game had going for it, it wasn't worth it in the first place, and this is coming from a person that can see the value in something like DoAX3.

I've said time and again: unless people make their displeasure reach Nintendo, buying or not buying the game individually makes no difference whatsoever.
What have people been doing to try to change this situation? Even posting angry coments on youtube trailers would be more meaningful than ranting on an annomnymous imageboard that nobody gives any credibility.

Obviously I'll reserve judgement on the game until I see some reviews after release. But basically I'll treat this game like any other when it comes to measuring the cost-benefit.
If I am to act on principle, I'll do it when I see a meaningful avenue of action instead of angry ranting and useless boycott.
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>>342121024
>/feg/

It used to be decent, how bad is it now?
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is that #FE?
its not even released yet wtf are you talking about
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>>342105782
You act as if this abomination was a system seller.
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>>342112864
She's my princess.
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>censored shit game sells like shit

Justice has been served.

Maybe they'll learn their fucking lesson now, but I wouldn't hold my fucking breath. These people are thick-skulled.
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>>342133389
Persona 5 is currently hanging on an empty promise of dual audio added as a DLC.
Obviously it's only an empty lie to shut up people for now to avoid bad publicity before the release.
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>>342134296
I wrote a mail to Nintendo and Atlus, but that won't make a difference either. It was pretty low effort.

The only thing you can do is learn Japanese, improve as a person and play games earlier. But that would be high effort.
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(Genei Ibun Roku#FE) which released in Japan on December 26, 2015 and saw a total sales figure of 26,340.
>saw a total sales figure of 26,340.
>saw a total sales figure of 26,340.
>saw a total sales figure of 26,340.
>saw a total sales figure of 26,340.
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>>342134297
Last i saw, 80% cuckposting/shitposting, especially if you like, god help you, a handful of females. Also husbandofags.
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>>342120042
Only in late night anime
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>>342134297
eh, pretty much the same as any other /vg/ thread, they do get out of hand though, I remember months back they destroyed the catalog with shit and there was some dude spamming a FE pic in every single thread there
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>>342135216
I don't see your point, are you suggesting they sell the games at night to evade censorship?
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>>342135497
Yes
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>>342134842

Really, the only thing that would actually help would be becoming a billionaire, buying Nintendo, and firing all the dumbasses who think censoring fanservice is okay. But none of you lazy bastards are going to do it, are you? Some fans you are.
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>>342135859
Ah, the power of capitalism
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>>342106574
this. when i heard that smt+fe was coming out i considered buying a wiiu, when i saw what they did with it i decided not to. fucking bullshit how bad those fuckheads ruined the charm of both games. i had hoped for a smt style game with weapons on top of the elements and the same weakness/accuracy match up system from fe with recruitable demons and an enemy that also recruits demons.

even if it took after fe rather than being turnbased i would have been happy about that.
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>>342134842
Writing a direct email is actually a fucking lot, anon. It takes much more initiative than a thumbs down or a hashtag, and because of that your point is taken more seriously.

The thing is unless you're a SJW complaining about the mistreatment of wymin in entertainment media, you'll probably need more than only one email/tweet/blog post.

But that's the way to do things. Even if it doesn't have an imediate result, that's how you start to mold public opinion and make a statement on a public level.

But you're a total MVP anon. If as few people as the ones that browse /v/ took the effort to send a well written email to Nintendo, it would probably make them think twice before going full christian on the censoring.
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>>342136398
fuck i mean ebin medieval style demon battles too. i mainly wanted demon wars
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>>342123416
NoA didn't localize Bayonetta thats why.
>>
Hi everyone this is my wife
be nice, please
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>>342136489
i'm pretty sure smt4 got released in aus at least partly because i sent them an email telling them how disappointed i was. they replied to me and told me that they were going to try.
i really want to play smt4:a but i don't want to send them another email
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They do, that's why Ar Nosurge and Omega Quintet are billion sellers
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>>342136489
I mostly complained about the missing battle dialogue subtitles and asked them why they have resources to censor the game but not to actually translate it, but a bit more formally with references to their youtube videos.

Atlus responded by telling me to "ask Nintendo, they are the publisher" and Nintendo responded with "ask Atlus, they are handling the localization"
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>>342137135
So Atlus is only able to do what Nintendo says and Nintendo doesn't care about battle dialogue but does care about covered T&A selectively.
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>>342137326
Yeah, but I knew that much before writing the mails
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>>342121502
>When we all saw the trailer April 1st

Holy shit, somebody really hated this fucking game
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>>342136489
>because of that your point is taken more seriously.

Unless the community manager is also an SJW, which is the case in a number of companies. The people making decisions never see the mails that don't fit her agenda.
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>>342137105
SMT IV was digital only in EU/AUS.
Now that NIS is no longer entrusted with Atlus games in Europe, you can pretty much forget SMT IV Final will ever come to your region.
Should have hacked your 3DS for region free.
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>>342137560
>The people making decisions never see the mails that don't fit her agenda.

Well, Nintendo also said this:
>We also want to assure you that your comments will be added to our records for Tokyo Mirage Sessions #FE and will be made available for other departments at the company to review and thoughtfully consider.

Whatever that means, you could still be right though
>>
ISO WHEN
>>
They probably think they can recoup losses by selling rights to a localization company. The producers in Japan still get their money, but now the localization team gets to eat the cost of their censorship.

People who don't know might buy it out of novelty. And it's guaranteed that nu-male asshat that's doing all of these changes will be getting his so-called warriors to praise the game on release.

>>342134214
>No idea where the porn censorship came from
The US actually, implemented shortly after Japan surrendered WWII. Fat chance removing it now, nobody wants to be remembered/shamed as voting for such a thing.
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>>342138072
>shamed as voting for such a thing
I thought that Japanese culture doesn't treat nakedness as shame
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>>342137650
>implying i'm not going to
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Do uncensor patches work with the disc? I'm asking if I can play the game from the disc and loading the texture changes from an SD card instead of dumping the entire game on a 16gb+ SD card
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>>342138683
Probably not, you'll need everything on your SD card

AFAIK there isn't even a homebrew app that let's you start other region discs, or any discs at all
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>>342123179
an animated cutscene that was already exported probably a few years ago would be harder to re-draw than re-rendering a cutscene with an altered model
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>>342138226
>nakedness as shame
No, they don't, at least not among members of the same gender. But that's not what is being referred to and politicians certainly wouldn't want to get near the issue unless they were trying to make it worse.
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>>342138421
If you're console is updated then you're shit out of luck.
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>>342129758
>censored arms

JEUS CHRIS
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>>342138840
Can't sm4sh be modded without the entire game on the SD card?
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>>342139295
No idea, you could probably install a fake game update to the console. But I have no idea if they are advanced enough to do that
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>>342112864
>yfw Makoto Va voiced a girl being fucked by a literal horse cock
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>>342139097
The good thing about the 3ds being so popular is that, much like it happened with the wii, I'm sure right after it goes out of the market and stop updating the firmware, people will have completely compatible and safe piracy methods.
Just compare the hasle of using chips and having to update them with DVDs during 2008 or so to the perfect softmods with loaders that we had around 2012.
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>>342139097
no shit.
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>>342139585
If you want to be successful as a VA you have to find expertise in every field

What's so special about that?
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>>342136398
That game already exists, tho

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JwGHohR3g4

Translation when
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>>342139585
Man I liked the premisse, but the animation was so generic. It looks like literally every other souless rape hentai out there.

Also the horse's voice was a annoying imo.


>>342140035
I personaly have no issue with it. It kinda turns me on actually.
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>>342138987
Not really since Aversa was censored in cutscene but not model.
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>>342139585
s-sound file?
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>>342136880
Here's mine.
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>>342140310
I don't understand the context of your conversation
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>>342140367
Remember they completely changed her backstory.
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>>342134929
Just curious, how much would this game have to sell to NOT be considered a flop?
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It neither panders to military otaku nor is it a mobile phone game with money-draining gacha so it didn't do well in Japan

If you still think "cute girls" are all it takes for a product to sell well in Japan then you've got another thing coming. Fucknear everything has cute girls. There needs to be something that creates competition among the obvious granted "cute girls" (or fujo stuff for that matter)
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>>342140467
I already beat the game, boyo.
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>>342140481

At least ten times more.
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>>342105707
Nips like SMT and FE too and this game was hardly either
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>>342140586
And the first two things we knew about her, being a gravure model and alcoholism, were removed from the english release.
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>can still never talk about this game because everyone just complains about the idol shit or how it didn't sell well
When will you fuckers give it a rest damn it.
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>>342140169
>that music and art design
I need it.
>MT
>translations ever
Can only trust the devil summoner guy.
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>>342140367
Maiko is the best tease
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>>342140530
>There needs to be something that creates competition among the obvious granted "cute girls"

Something like... even cuter girls?
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>>342141102
>removed from english release
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>>342140965
I should care why?
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>>342141052

You're free to bash other aspects of the game as much as you want. Just don't let us catch saying anything in praise of it.
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>>342141102

>>342141417
Ok. This game fucking rocks it's such a god damn gem that I can't believe people can hate it so much
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>>342141309

Another example of censorship.
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>>342141252
Probably, it has to do with her whole story as a gravure idol and ties back to chapter 2

Or they kept it because someone else on the team handled that part
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>>342140965
>alcoholism
Is still in the game, even in the ESRBs description for the game
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>>342105707
>make a game marketed towards SMT and FE fans
>make the game have no SMT elements
>Make the game have no FE elements

what the fuck were they smoking when they made this?
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>>342141840
They aren't referring to Maiko with that though. Maiko's alcohol was removed though.
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>>342142838
Sauce?
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>>342142838
What the hell else would they be referring to? Pretty sure the only references to alcohol are in Maikos office, every other character except for Barry and Kiria are underaged anyway.
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>>342142838
no, nintendaan already posted a video of the sidequest where you cure her hangover with a potion
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>>342140467
>>342140965
Wait, wasn't her being a model a plot point at some point? Something about a guy that she worked with being pissed that no other models were as good as her or something?
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>>342143510
Gravure isn't the only way to model, anon. Apparently the localization makes it seem like the are clothing models
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>>342110615
And I refuse to support shitty moe idol waifushit games so it works out for everybody. Ill pirate it for the SMT gameplay.
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>>342143778
So she was just changed from a gravure model to a clothing model? Cause that kind of makes the whole concept seem dumb. I mean who gives a shit about clothing models?
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Why is Yashiro just simply amashing?
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Jesus, you guys were right about the selective censoring
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>>342144208
I think it's just two separate people that handled different parts of the localization and one went apeshit and the other didn't bother.

Or the whole they get more money the more they censor thing is true
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>>342144208
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>>342142019
SMTE x FE some what happend 20 years a go...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mh5QZlfpfqU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6JwGHohR3g4
The closest thing for a SMT x FE
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This game has the comfiest menu screens
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>>342144189
He is best boy.
>put him in the Dark Yashiro outfit
>one of his pre battle dialogues is him laughing like a maniac or talking like Dark Yashiro
I also like how his switch in quote is a reference to Awakenings Robin.
>>342144208
I think if they censored Tharja one more fucking time I'd fucking kill myself
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>>342145090
When you put him in the Doktor Schraube outfit he talks about starting the operation and dissecting people.

A lot of outfits change battle quotes. Too bad those aren't even subtitled.
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>>342144208
>>342144510
It's like Xenoblade X.
Fundoshi gets censored for all characters and not only Lin, yet the super skimpy 2 piece bunny suits are left intact except for Lin of course
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>>342136489
Not him, but I fucking wish it did something. I've written emails to them every time this shit happens. I wrote it for fatal frame, saying I wouldn't get the game, and I hoped they would make sure fates and xenoblade would be fine. Then I wrote in for xenoblade, saying again I wouldn't get the game, but I hope they would handle fates differently. Then after fates I again wrote in saying I wouldn't get it, and that they had basically lost me as a customer, one who had bought many nintendo games and systems in the past, due to their actions. Same shit. You get some cookie cutter shit about they take all opinions very seriously, and that they will forward your thoughts to the appropriate department.

Basically exactly what was posted here. >>342137723
I'll do the same for this game, because I was really looking forward to it, but I'm not going to support this shit. And I expect the same response.
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>>342144780
Where the FUCK did you find a webm that has all the cast in it? I've been trying to find a useable background image of this that includes Yashiro in it but could not find one. You're a life saver anon
>>342145294
Yeah, I love the outfit changes
>put Kiria in the cat outfit
>absoryuto~ kawaii!
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>>342145721
>Where the FUCK did you find a webm that has all the cast in it?
All the camp videos are in the movie_camp.pkg of the game's iso.

There's even one without the cast
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>>342145886
Oh the wonders of datamining, thanks anon.
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>>342146134
Did you upscale that? The movies are all 1280x720 for me
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>>342146310
I got it from here
https://topics.nintendo.co.jp/c/article/5f737a36-a9e0-11e5-a02c-0a6d14145cb1.html

Is the games native resolution at 720? Cause I was trying to take a screencap yesterday and they all came out at 720 even though my tv was 1080
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>>342146475
>Is the games native resolution at 720?
Yes
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>>342146475
BTW you can also extract all the audio from the sound packs, just convert the .adx files with ffmpeg
https://0x0.st/Twa.mp3
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>>342146625
Oh Nintendo(or Atlus I guess), you fucking bastards.
>>342146760
>BTW you can also extract all the audio from the sound packs
Please, for the love of god, tell me you have the song used in this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ll618DUEvdE

I've been trying to find it on youtube but only a few songs have been ripped.
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>>342146927
I'll try to find it, the thing is they are all named weirdly like Common.awb.00013 and such. It's just trial and error.
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>>342145491
Again, you can't expect one or a couple emails to change a multi-millionaire project on a whim.

The problem is that nowhere near enough people do this. If they're at least mindful that a bunch of people are upset, they'll try to cater to them or at least not displease them as much.

It's funny because even in politics most people that discuss serious issues and choices that are dependant on public opinion always reccomend that everyone writes their congressmen about it, basically to reach them directly in a well manered way.
Here we even have the advantage that, contrary to the average politician that's out for themselves, these companies want to sell their shit to us and they will cater to us if we show that their business decisions are threatening our good will to support them.
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>>342146927
Do you even use your Wii U? Only Smash and both HD Zeldas are 1080p
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>>342105707
It's a mess, it has nothing to do about FE and SMT, it's totally different
It's like if you take 2 different games like Mario and Sonic for example and have them do something completely different than their main genre (platforming) like playing olympics or some shit.
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>>342147150
Thank you anon. How exactly are you supposed to open/view all those files anyway? I'm gonna have to download a loadiine ready version anyway for when a nice "English text on JP version" comes out anyway.
>>342147273
>Do you even use your Wii U?
I actually bought the #FE Wii U bundle so the only games I own for it are #FE, and I've pirated a few others. That's pretty stupid, but I guess I can't expect much from Nintendo.
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>>342147176
This game will unfortunately flop not due to censorship but due to a lack of interest.
Xenoblade X got a pass because people just wanted the game, and Fatal Frame was not popular in the first place, and Fates sold really well.
At this point I can only expect that nothing will change until those in charge are fired.
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>>342147426
you can use a program called VGMToolbox to extract the archives
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>>342147426
I'm pretty sure Nintendo and all other developers would make their games 1080p if the Wii U let them. You seem to forget that the Wii U is weaker than the PS3 in some regards
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>>342147538
Thanks
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>>342147483
It's a bit too late for this one, yes. But we're in this shit for the long haul. Also, if many people keep complaining about the localization, the people making these calls could realistically lose their jobs, even if they're just put on another function.

The question is: how to rally this bunch of angry children and neckbeards behind this noble cause?
It's the same problem with politics when you think about it, though I'd like to think that here, on the "elite of the internet", it would be easier to make things happen.
It's kinda laughable when you read it, I know, but nowhere else people get this upset about censorship and stuff. We're just one step away.
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>>342146927
I think I have it, there are actually 6 of those but they all sound the same to me, there might be slight differences
https://0x0.st/Tw1.mp3
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>>342148440
>there are actually 6 of those
That's weird. Do any other ones do that? I only remember it playing a few times in game anyway
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>>342148382
>The question is: how to rally this bunch of angry children and neckbeards behind this noble cause?
Simple, you can't. This is Nintendo, not Compile Heart. A minority like this doesn't make the game flop nor succeed. You think Xenoblade would've sold even 50k more if it had no censorship?
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>>342148547
Yeah there are a lot of duplicates, I'm not entirely sure why
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>>342148643
Well, game design is a mystery. At least the songs are good. I wish they'd have released a BGM compilation along with the vocal collection.
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http://megamitensei.wikia.com/wiki/Tiki-Waifu

Daily reminder
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>>342148925
>Tiki Fangirl P
She's literally called Tiki Wife P in the Japanese version but okay
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>>342148897
Do you have a link to the vocal collection? All I have is the disc that came with the game
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>>342115646
Super late

but

http://personacentral.com/genei-ibun-roku-fe-debuts-with-poor-sales-in-japan/

FLOP
L
O
P
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>>342148382
What noble cuase you inmense faggot?
You are just a horny virgin, nothing is lost with this censonrship.
If the game flops it's because it has no appeal to the non weeb majority on the west.
And because it's boring as fuck.
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Models are ugly as fuck
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>>342148634
Think about it this way: do you think it would have sold even 50k LESS if it hadn't censorship?

If not, why wouldn't they go ahead and please their audience in the process? Or at least not be so intrusive with the censorship. Consumer good will is valuable, and as much as Nintendo might be stuck in the past in many ways, they're not about to start torching their franchises in the hopes of making a quick buck just yet.

I think it's worth a try regardless. Keep them mindful about their audience.
Otherwise, that's one sure way to make them start feeling confident to go rampant with any other stupid decision that fucks the consumers over in the future.
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>>342106027
Hyrule Warriors pre-3DS port made over a million. Do concede that it's no longer exclusive though.
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>>342149174
Eh, I had uploaded the vocal collection a while ago but it seems the link has expired, and I kind of want people to support the game and buy it themselves, but I'll be a nice guy this time and share it. Just give me some time, shit internet and all that. You even gonna buy the game or are you just pirating?
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>>342136398
>when i heard that smt+fe was coming out i considered buying a wiiu, when i saw what they did with it i decided not to. fucking bullshit how bad those fuckheads ruined the charm of both games.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OK5-EIzDtKo

Was so hyped for this.
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>>342149557
I already imported the fortissimo edition from Japan. I don't pirate without buying.

Also I found the soundtrack, you don't need to upload it.

Now if only there were nice scans of the full artbook
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>>342149356
It's the Atlus charm and the fact that all JRPGs are still PS2 games in HD
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>>342149071
It says "俺の嫁” which is more or less just the "mai waifu" meme though "fangirl" gets a similar meaning across

Do you play Japanese games without knowing Japanese or something m8?
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>>342105707
What is this? Is it that shitty Fire Emblem thing or whatever? Why censor the only aspect people want? (the titties)
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>>342149702
Where'd you find the soundtrack? I ripped in 320 so that might be preferable if other sources are shittier rips. And I actually have the full artbook too but don't plan on scanning it due to moralfaggotry again, which I never thought I'd do.
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>>342105707
>Make wildly popular game that develops into wildly popular series
>While it attracts new fans, the core fanbase remains the same and becomes a "niche" (much like final fantasy, kingdom hearts) you're identifiable by liking the series
>Developers then take series and creat an even more niche game that members of the core fanbase may not enjoy the genre

Some regular buyers don't buy it, and it's not a stepping stone into the franchise for anyone because it's too different from the main line. People that were already uninterested in the series but like the genre won't buy because of the nametag.

Every time a game does this it's asking for failure.
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>>342149506
I'm not the one with a logistics team and millions of dollars to back things up.
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>>342149765
She's called チキ嫁P though and when you hear her name for the first time there's literally an option to ask Tiki if she's married

Did you write that wiki page or why are you so buttmad?

>>342149898
>Where'd you find the soundtrack?
On nyaa in FLAC
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>>342149898
>And I actually have the full artbook
Are there many differences to the small one that comes with the fortissimo edition?
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>>342150037
Actually play the game
チキ嫁P is short for チキは俺の嫁P. So saying she's called "Tiki Wife P" is retarded seeing as it is an abbreviation of a name that fully would be "Tiki is my wife P".
Of all the wrong things about the localization this is a dumb thing to attempt to point out
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>>342150037
Well, soundtracks/cds usually are easier to find.
>>342150240
It's like 3 times the size, it's a pretty big book. The one in the fortissimo edition is like a sample one basically, same with the cd
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>>342150613
>it's a pretty big book
I just saw, 336 pages, okay that's a lot

If only I knew it existed when I bought the game, oh well
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>>342150603
It was pretty much given that they were gonna localize the name as that.

The only thing I'm pissed about is that they got rid of the P, as in later side stories you deal with more P's
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>>342150879
Yeah I've seen people ask if the special edition is worth it and I've usually responded that getting the game by itself, and the soundtrack and artbook separately would get you more stuff. But at least the special edition gets you the DLC codes free and some dope stickers.
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>>342118370
Why do they even bother
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>>342151134
>But at least the special edition gets you the DLC codes free
If my Wii U were Japanese that would have helped
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>>342128054
Because anime.
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>>342151134
Does the artbook have zipper pants illustrations?
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>>342151263
Oh yeah, and you can't even pirate the DLC either since loadiine is stupid
>>342151625
Yep.
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>>342147483
Xenoblade also got a pass because far less was actually censored. You had a breast slider that doesn't actually look very good when you use it, one piece of clothing out of literally hundreds for everyone and a bunch of extra clothes for one character while leaving the rest intact. As visible censorship goes it's on the less irritating end.
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>>342152125
The boob slider affects the entire run of the game, and so does any changes to gear since you can use them without caring about stats. Not to mention it was also only in english.
Compare that to this. 2 seconds of cutscenes, a couple of armor pieces that you will change later on, the subtext of a couple of sidequests. By the end of the game you won't remember shit
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>>342117297
Somebody on GBAtemp already said they'll do an uncensor patch. It'll probably never get a retranslation, though.
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>>342152567
I know you're just trying to be contrarian, but could you do it in a less stupid way next time? That was embarrassing to read.
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Help
How to get to this chest

I figured out the other two that had you play around with those moving blocks
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>>342152786
>over level 50
>Only barely over 1K HP

What a joke.
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>>342152786
Okay nvm got it
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>>342152767
I'm not trying to be contrarian. People freak out over that enemy having shadow covering her cleavage, even though it's only covered in that 20 second cutscene and not the rest of the fight. They freak out over a 1 second panty shot.
You've seen more skin from the characters in these threads that you would've ever seen in the game uncensored.
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>>342132431

>After at least a year

Some games take longer to reach that mark. Most Nintendo games for example, take a period of years to sell well. Doesn't necessarily mean the product failed. Not everything is going to sell 30 million units the first day like CoD.
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>>342152786
Yeah that puzzle is dumb, a tiny bit later there's an even more annoying one that involves those green moving platform blocks.
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>>342120042
>It's especially weird since gore like severed hands and exploding body parts is present in anime so much. And all the blood.
Only in late night anime or on BDs. Many anime get both fanservice (certain camel toes, nipples, etc) and violence censored during airing.
CERO regulates console games and they have very strict rules regarding dismemberment. That's just how it is. It doesn't even make sense to compare those two mediums because manga is also completely unregulated except for genitalia, and even non-ero manga can be rife with explicit sex and gore.
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>>342153036
I'm a little confused by your last statement, but I haven't played idol emblem, so I won't argue against it.
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>>342152902
Is there a way to get more HP?

I always disregarded those HP+ passive skills because I never die
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>>342153219
Wait I'm retarded and just learned what you meant. The next puzzle after the next boss is easy.
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>>342153279
What I mean is that people are complaining about these changes as if they took away guns from GTA, when in reality this will affect you as much as much as removing animals on the street
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>>342153332
Only unit who gets huge HP is Mamori
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i enjoyed persona 3 a lot. will i like this game? i have fifty dollars in amazon credit the bank gave me and i'm deciding between this and gods eater on PS4
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>>342110998
>>342125101
t. idol cucks.
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>>342153543
I see.
So, for people who have played it, how much play time do you get out of it if you factor in side quests and things?
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>>342153721
if you don't mind idols and no romances, go for it
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I pre ordered the special edition because its probably going to be sold out. Im gonna scalp the shit out of it
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>>342153543
It's more like removing drugs, murder, and theft from GTA.
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>>342105707
>but why did it flop in japan?

It didn't, the game is still making money even because of concerts. This was a meme just like "Splatoon was a failure".
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>>342154352
The game did flop in Japan. Everything except the game sold, but the game itself flopped.
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>>342149705
There was a comparison pic on all PS2 Altus. Nocturne and DDS looked good, Raidou eh and P4 looked smeared as fuck
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>>342153937
i don't mind, but is it similar to persona? i should watch some gameplay videos
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>>342149209

You are a retard for believing that website. It's a bunch of angry Atlus fans that missreported and never corrected their article.

The game's bundle sold out in the first day and it was a success in the eshop
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>>342154515
>but is it similar to persona?
No
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>>342154561
Nice lies bro.
This game sold worse than any SMT, Persina, or FE game.
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>>342154561
From Media create recorded sales
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>>342154324
They didn't remove songs, idols, models and colors from the game
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>>342154758

None of these games were released in one of the worst selling Nintendo consoles
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>>342105707
>Don't the nips eat this idol shit up?
no, most of them like golf
only lonely creeps with no prospects eat it up, and there is a significant rethinking of the whole idol thing going on now what with the recent stabbing incident
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>>342155232
What happened?
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>>342154947
Doesn't change the fact the the game flopped.
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They hate it because it's the epitome of kusoge
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>>342154871
Which has a history of being complete bullshit.
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>>342155620
A fan stabbed an idol in one of those handshaking events. http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/news/2016-05-22/several-handshaking-events-cancelled-after-idol-attack/.102390
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>>342156494
Media create is like the most reliable fucking tracker in japan and even then the Famitsu numbers lined up with them if for whatever reason you think they are off by what would be thousands of units. Just admit the game flopped christ
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>>342155232
>lonely creeps with no prospects eat it up

Which is like 99% of weebs though and most young Japanese men in general.
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Looking from the outside in western culture perceives Japan as being this big ol' cesspool of otaku and deviants who eat this shit, but japan isnt really like that, They are def more open about this shit and have a large-ish amount of super nerds compared to like, america, but japan is still a Regular country like anywhere else with SJWs and normies and what have you and all the otakus and idol fans have a Vita pretty much and dont have Wii Us really. Like just because you release a Senran Kagura game on the wii u doesnt mean itd do well but you put the same one on the Vita or even 3DS and itd probably sell great,

Fan service and Idols doesnt equal instant success in japan like people and companies think
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Getting the lockpick skill sounds a bit annoying. Is it worth it?
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>>342158203
The one that opens up all the red chests? It's good for new game+. You know what's really annoying, going through the max rank arena a few hundred times just to forge the max carnages for everyone.
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>>342158684
I mean, I've never avoided wild encounters but I still don't have enough shards to get the lockpick skill. I just don't feel like farming now

I left the arena for post game content, and new game+ doesn't really interest me at all
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>>342156494
The game couldn't even sell through 50% of its shipped copies. Are you really this mad about it bombing? Why don't you go brag about how the concerts nobody gives a shit about are still going on as if that's some victory?
You can still buy the US CE at Gamestop, too. Must be selling great here since I can't get it off Amazon!
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>>342158925
>but I still don't have enough shards
Are you sure that's what you have to do?
http://spwiki.net/sharpfe/wikis/76.html#l3823eda

This shows all you have to do is talk to the mirage in the arena and fight some enemy in daitama and you'll get the performa required to unlock it.
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>Sonyponies, normalfags and anti-GGers are still upset over GOTY 2015 and 2016
>mfw

Don't forget to put these plebs in their place by pre-ordering Tsubasa's game ASAP! Already have it pre-ordered? Pre-order it again for your friends and family! Help Tsubasa reach 1 million copies sold!

https://twitter.com/OpKOWASHITAI
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>>342160314
But I don't like Tsubasa.
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>>342159670
I looked it up here http://spwiki.net/sharpfe/wikis/76.html
Request number 47, says it only unlocks if you traded shards more than 12 times

But I'll try out that other thing thanks
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>>342160314
>Taking your shitposting to twitter with a bait account

This is ADVANCED shitposting.
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>>342160938
The stupid thing is you actually have to talk to the clerk mirage in the arena from behind to actually get the request activated
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>>342160938
I just realized it's the same link, just look at the table at the top and how the request unlocks
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>>342161081
Yeah, I realized that in chapter 4
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>>342161104
Yeah I noticed that too, you have to do both, trade 12 times to make the request unlock, then actually fulfill the request by beating some mirage in daitama, then you'll get the performa to unlock the radiant skill. There's also Star Aura and Thors Hammer that need to be unlocked, which are kind of annoying too.
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>>342161034
The only shitposting here is the shitposting P5 fanboys like you have been doing to our threads over the past year. We're fed up with it, and we're not going to take any more of this shit. Operation KOWASHITAI is entering full throttle for the rest of this fiscal year until #FE outsells P5 due to the mass amounts of spoilers we plan on dropping for P5. We're not just going to post spoilers on /v/, these spoilers are going to be EVERYWHERE.
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>>342161325
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>>342161325
We already know the joke. Posting it again is boring.
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>>342161325
I plan to pirate both games, though.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTl8gDQiKiE
Fiaa Emburemmmmmmmmmmm
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I'd buy it for Kiria
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>>342162465
Am I supposed to hate this?
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>>342162465
I think I'm just about to hear this ingame
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>>342162469
Kiria is best girl
>>342162752
It's actually pretty hpe
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>>342162814
She does things to my dick
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>>342162465
jesus fucking christ, this is cringe: the videogame
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>>342162682
did u rike it?
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>>342162682
If you had taste you would, excited for might no.9 tomorrow champ? Le (: face
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>>342162913
Her partner does things to my dick.
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>>342161873
>>342162132
Believe what you want Ponies, we'll see who's laughing when the Happening begins and Atlus chooses to continue the #FE franchise over Persona or SMT.
>>342162293
No, bad Anon. Tsubasa is for buying, not pirating.
>>342162465
>>342162915
>>342162979
>>342162989
Fuck off, you don't understand the context behind the scene nor do you appreciate the depth and talent behind the song itself. Go shitpost somewhere else.
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>>342163138
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>>342162814
i'm glad she still has the thong in the western version
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>>342162979
Yeah, I'd probably be pretty excited getting to this part if I wasn't spoiled.

>>342162989
Not everything has to have 11/10 writing to be enjoyable. Not really excited for MN9, though I will give it a try to see if it's truly bad.
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Are there any video game scholarships that are worth your dignity?
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>>342163371
then why watch it dumb ass
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>>342108990
>>Pandering to the Love Live/Idolm@ster crowd by making it saccharine and exploitative instead of taking a deeper look at the darker and sketchier side of the idol industry like what Persona 4 Dancing All Night did

Kek is this post for real
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>>342163498
I can't help myself.
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>>342108990
>taking a deeper look at the darker and sketchier side of the idol industry like what Persona 4 Dancing All Night did

I needed a good laugh thanks f@m
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>>342163138
>depth and talent
Holy shit you deserve the (You)
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Did any good anime come out after gungrave?
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>>342163357
Sucks you won't get the swimsuit but her Nurse outfit is pretty good.
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>>342163357
She doesn't.
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>>342153080
Not to mention a lot of those games that sell millions in the first weekend drop off steeply after the first few weeks they're out. It's just different kinds of marketing.
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>>342163906
not in the western version
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>>342163881
A good anime has never come out.
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>>342164027
The Nurse one is gonna be in the western version, it's the swimsuits that aren't coming over.
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>>342163805
Who is that? Oboro?
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>>342105707

Well on top of ignoring both markets they were trying to appeal to; they made the main girl kind of generic and unappealing.

She looks like a random side character, so does the main guy.
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>>342163907
yeah she does

it was visible in the Treehouse E3 demo
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>>342164114
what about Dragon ball z
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>>342165054
No, anime was a mistake.
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Can't wait to play it.
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>>342162465
I still haven't watched this, just seen the screenshot.
I'm scared to do it.

I hope I can pick up this game used later this year.
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>>342164975
Nope, it was edited outt
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>>342166063
Don't worry, the English version will be 10x worse, almost beautiful in a way.
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>>342166605
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yfz4tfSvs8I

3:19

boob jiggles are still in too
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>>342147605
>You seem to forget that the Wii U is weaker than the PS3 in some regards

this meme died in 2013, stop
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I appreciate the inventive and fantasy they had when making this game, shame they will never attempt it ever again.
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>>342161325

are you cereal
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>>342166987
>boob jiggles are still in too
>mfw rotating the character around when changing outfits makes their hair and tits jiggle
>mfw Kirias model looks at the viewer while doing it
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>>342105707
>but why did it flop in japan?
Except it didn't?

Merch and idol concerts made a lot of money.


There's a reason a sequel is being talked about
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>tfw I saw so many naked chicks I get more aroused by clothed women so the censorship is actually a plus for me

I mean, I am sad about the others, but I certainly won't suffer.
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>>342167961

I think you lost your face somewhere.
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>>342166987

I want to cum inside that snow haired treehouse grill.
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>>342168630
You're right, here it is.
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Fuck me. I still have a preorder on this, but all the shit they fucked up...the wedding dress alone is worthy of cancelling. Add all the other shit...it looks fun though. Goddammit Altus/noa
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>>342166987
>they purposely skip the dialog so no one sees the boob jiggle
>still appears for a second anyway
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>>342168330
Clothing is better then a naked body definitely, still the game is shit.
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i'm just waiting for the rom
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>>342166987

>you have to slut your way into fights to have an advantage

kek this is awesome
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>>342166987

>Hey you! with the big puppy eyes!
>Y-yes?!
>Damn
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>>342166987
There's no thong there.
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can someone remind me why nintendo makes fire emblem only for 3DS now?
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Does any tsubasa porn exist? I found a single pic on gelbooru and it was her in her school clothes. Over the top and stupid outfits are my fetish and porn was the only thing I was looking forward to.
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>>342168215
The game did flop. Why are idiots still telling this meme?
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>>342169691
have you considered glasses?
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