"They're master works all. You can't go wrong."
FIRE
So do wolves hunt in packs or what? Didn't catch that.
Now that you mention it, I am soaked to the bone
>trying to build a balanced arisen for endgame cuz why not minmax like a faggot
>hit level 50, switch vocations
>cant fucking kill anything to save my life
>DD2 never
I should check on my Emily pawn.
>>342049870
90% of your stats come from gear, minmaxing isn't really worth the time in this game.
Wolves hunt in... Wolves hunt in....
I don't remember /v/ please help
>>342049870
you dont need to minmax shit for DD, just spend most of your time in the Hybrid Vocations because they have the best overall stat growth.
if you ever in need of a boost you can use the charm items that boost your stats, Magick Archer can just use Magick Rebalancer for a free boost, remember they stack 4 times.
JUST A JAPE FRIEND
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>>342050397
Man, that reminds me of the comic that shows him humping the protagonist and saying "TAKE MY JAPES" or something similar.
Best girl
>>342049364
every time you beam to the city
>Tis a portcrystal
>Tis a portcrystal
>Tis a portcrystal
>>342050783
Worthless.
Only good to improve troop morale by being used as cumrag.
>>342050539
>"Relax, arisen."
>zooms on asalam's mouth
>"It's just my japes."
>>342051286
>>342051534
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>people suck this games dick for 20 year son /v/
>buy it release day
>play it
>get bored in 30 minutes
>never go back
at least my girlfriend liked it. Typically japanese games are just deathly boring if you have more than a few years of gaming experience
>>342049870
The general consensus is fighter for the first 10 levels for egression and then the next 90 depend on what play style you want (tank, agility, mage).
The other school of thought says it doesn't matter as long as you have some gangster ass levels of stamina.
I tend to fall in the first camp choosing to start as fighter for the first 10, archer until I unlock strider- max strider then maybe 10 levels of magic to access spells and build stamina.
>>342051725
maybe your taste is just shit anon
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/eHgH0Pe.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>Typically japanese games are just deathly boring if you have more than a few years of gaming experience
IT HATES FIRE
>>342052125
Meant max strider then archer.
If you want to min/max the:
1-10 fighter, 11-200 assassin DMG
1-10 sorcerer, 11-200 Mage M. DMG
>>342051725
The first 2 hours are the most boring thing in the world, after that it get's pretty fun
>>342050783
Best voice actor in both EN and JP dubs. Truly a goddess.
>>342052528
What do you recommend then anonibro?
>>342050235
Assassin has the best strength growth but mystic knight and magick archer have the shittiest growth in the game.
>>342052528
Prime example that only gameplay does not make a game.
Probably one of the most depressing games out there when you realize what could have been. Then Capcom realizes its true vision and makes a literal MMO.
>>342050057
What was this called again?
>>342050057
>I named my pawn Emilia>because I still wasn't over her at the time
Honestly, what did they think would happen when you give players that level of customization over characters that will unquestionably be at your side for all of time?
>>342051725
>get bored in 30 minutes
I absolutely loved Dragon's Dogma but I completely sympathize with your reaction. One of the game's major flaws is having the first four quests or so be completely monotonous and awful.
It's somewhat understandable that the devs wanted easy quests to aquatint the player, but it's so much more disappointing when you consider how amazingly good the intro was. The intro segment was fucking amazing and one of the best in any game in my opinion, especially in how they let the player experiment instead of just handholding the player for ten grueling minutes.
So, if you ever decide to give Dragon's Dogma a shot again, definitely skip the first few sidequests. Dragon's Dogma had excellent combat and quests like "go find some random kid on the roof" definitely don't show it (though it was kinda funny.)
>>342050783
Agree, just because she is basically pre eclipse Casca
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>>342053050
>only gameplay does not make a game
if the story is good but the gameplay is shit, then the game is shit (e.g. Bet on Soldier, i'm assuming heavy rain)
if the story is shit, but the gameplay is good, then the game is still good (e.g. Doom, any classic arcade game)
>>342051286
quiet she goat
>>342049951
>what is Dragon's Dogma Online
>>342054347
Its a japanese region locked untranslated moon rune pos
Fucking faggot
>>342054473
filthy gaijin you get nothing
maybe next time you not bomb city twice
>>342054090
>gameplay alone can always carry the game
I'm pretty sure BamHam series, Witcher 3 and pretty much every open world game have pretty mediocre to shit gameplay but people act like they're the second coming of Christ.
It's a very case to case basis, but you wouldn't know, because you just parrot whatever /v/ tells you
>Another single player MMO
No thanks. I don't see how anyone can play Jap games like this. It feels exactly like an MMO but has none of the redeeming qualities of one. The "open world" is literally fucking empty. There is huge areas with nothing in them but enemies who patrol around a set path or just spawn out of thin air. A massive city where every single door except maybe like 3 is locked an inaccessible.
And I cannot understand why anyone would want to grind their ass off on Bitterblack Isle. I mean literally fucking why would you do that in a single player game?
All of that being said though, it was alright. Just alright for a game of its time. But people suck it's dick way too hard.
>>342054935
MMOs have redeeming qualities?
>>342052682
It's mage to sorcerer.
>>342051725
It starts pretty slow, but seriously? A half hour? How do any games hold your attention at all?
>>342054935
Be honest, how many MMOs have you actually played?
>The "open world" is literally fucking empty.
Bitch I'm still finding new nooks can crannies full of shit like 5 play throughs later. There are upgrade / combining materials fucking everywhere, chests with worthwhile equipment, spawn patterns change between night and day, boss type monsters, random events to free captive NPCs... what the fuck more do you want?
>>342055039
>>342055184
I'm not going to sit here and argue with a couple of DD fanboys. I've made that mistake once already.
>>342050217
The woods my man, wolves hunt in the woods.
>>342055372
I'm just seriously lost as to what people want from an open world. There's literally useful items stuffed into every fucking corner in Dragond Dogma but people call it empty and totally dismiss it. Yet there are people on here sucking Xenoblade Xs dick for having such a great open world when it seriously will have like one fucking chest per "grid" segment with a fucking tank top in it or some other useless garbage.
I would kill to get Dragons Dogma online over here so I don't get the MMO comment either. Is it the "Kill __ of ___" quests? Because those are in shitloads of games and are hardly exclusive to MMOs and the sure as shit didn't originate from them.
>>342055372
>DD fanboys
Coming from someone who thinks that MMOs have redeeming qualities.
>>342055772
Yeah no, Xenoblade does have so muhc more shit than 1 chest per segment, Don't be retarded.
The Duke really was shit
>I totally killed the dragon guys! Don't ask me how, just know that I did it
>Is made Duke of Gransys in response
>Does fuck all as Duke other than sit in his castle and kill his wives
>Yeah the Dragon has come back but first let me through this bitchin party
Have you seen those roads leading to Gran Soren? They're in shambles, when is he going to commission new ones?
>>342056018
Yeah, there are glowing collectibles to run over too. Some monsters are huge and have huge guts. I played for a good 50 hours and the game seriously had nothing to offer.
>>342051534
>>342055372
I dropped it after an hour my first time playing it, then tried it again almost a year later and it became my favourite game, you just need to slog through the start and once you reach Gran Soren the game really picks up
Also, if you are on consoles, make sure you back up your save. I cannot emphasize this enough (RIP 100 hours)
>>342056747
>Haven't checked my pawn in a year
I wonder what he's been doing all this time?
This game would have seriously benefited from multiplayer. By seriously I mean it would still be played by tons of people on Steam to this very day.
>>342056897
Hopefully going on adventures without you.
>>342050235
Magick Archer and Mystic Knight have like the worst stat growth distribution.
>>342057426
Now I feel bad. I'm going to fire up my PS3 again and see what he's been up to.
>>342057518
Noting wrong with not having to use a wakestone whenever you eat a spell to the dick.
>>342054000
Its mostly because a whole game's worth of content was cut during development, hence the story seems more like it is just stitched together with glue and tape with all sorts of contradictions.
>>342057738
A shame because I liked what was there but the more I looked into it the more conflicts I stumbled into. But there was a good base there.
>>342056897
That makes me wonder... are pawns able to be assigned to more than one person at once? If not, I've kept two pawns from going on adventures for several months now.
>>342057912
No pawns can be assigned to as many people who wants to use him/ her. It's just a copy of your pawn that's kept on the servers every time you rest at the Inn.
>>342057668
Level up as sorcerer and assassin, and then switch to Magick Archer and Mystic Knight at level 200 if you really wanna minmax.
>Want to rush through a new playthrough to get a whole different set of dragon-forged items, can't quite get through BBI yet.
>Mfw the hydra head escort mission every time
Go FASTER you FUCK
>>342058015
Its is not as clear cut as that, if you want to have a optimized strength and magic, go with this build:
Offensive Hybrid Arisen
1-10 Mage
11-96 Assassin
97-100 Sorcerer
101 Assassin
102-200 Sorcerer
lvl 200 base stats:
3559 HP
4107 ST
605 Str
605 Mag
264 Def
312 MDef
>>342058204
Just kick the ox repeatedly and get a mage pawn to heal you. It heals the ox too.
Is there any fucking fix for the constant blackscreen on startup if you turn on V-sync? The only way for me to have v sync without the blackscreen is to run windowed in a smaller resolution
>>342058269
forgot, this build also gives a lot of stamina, and good amount of HP.
>>342058269
>Trying not to spoonfeed too hard
>purchased it for consoles
>dropped it an hour or two in
>picked it up on PC
>couldnt stop playing
I really fucking hope in the sequel they make a real map that isnt boring as shit and ditch the stat growth. Make the monsters a bit harder and the AI better as well, but otherwise 10/10 what a goate game.
>>342053324
Unteraltsomething.
GORECYCLOPS
>>342058723
Shall we leave it be? Please?
>>342058723
>Did like 150 levels as an assassin
>Switched to Ranger
>Perfect charged Reapers Arrow
>Kill the Condemned Gorecyclops in like 2 or 3 shots
Is it worth it to go back to this game if I've finished with best gear playing Warrior and Assassin?
Which ones are the most fun to do a clean playthrough?
>>342058290
>mfw suffering reroll-itis because games are always a ton more fun before you can kill a dragon god by farting in his general direction
>repeatedly kicking and getting hit by that fucking ox and then racing it to get the mage to heal it
I must've been trampled by that goddamn ox at least 100 times.
>>342058502
No and fuck you. The less normies like this game the better the discussion generally is. Please don't let this turn into souls.
>>342056129
that twist was pretty good writing to be honest
the whole execution of the "muh arisen" was terrible but the actual events taking place was great.
Also grigori was absolutely excellent towards the end of the game. That fucking voice.
Yall should try making an unarmed build
1-10 fighter, 11-200 assassin, 2x Bloody Knuckle
I'll just leave this here.
>>342058723
>Farming at soulflayer canyon in post-game
>Hey that cyclops looks a bit taller than usual
>mfw
>trying to kill goreclops on hard mode as a warrior
just fucking kill me
>>342049951
We got a PC port which is more than we ever expected.
I can be happy with this.
I read that if I want to be a kickass sorcerer that fucks shit up with huge dramatic explosive spells this game is a must. Is this true?
>>342060254
>Casuals
>>342061520
Yes
>>342056542
Was it near impossible to break out of most grabs on console too? That shit seemed so hard when I was doing it on PC
>>342060254
>>342062191
It's far easier with a controller, but unless you have eggresion you won't be escaping an ogre grab alive
>>342061969
Fucking awesome. Just bought DD on Steam, thanks anon.
Why do no other games do magic like that?
Elder scrolls has awesome shit like that in lore, but the game play limits you to lame little fireballs and shit.
>>342060381
>going through forgotten hall
>garms spawn
>If I can kill the pawns this shouldn't be so bad
>wait what just killed me
I've just run through that room every time since.
>>342054909
Except they don't. They are far and ahead of the kind of shit gameplay we're talking about. BamHam and AssCreed is only boring because they didn't evolve mechanics fast enough and hence all feel the same. When they first appeared they were solid and great. And Witcher 3 has very good gameplay in combat and RPG elements. It may not be the best but that doesn't make it shit.
>>342060254
Wow. This guy really fucked up.
>>342062990
I honestly can't think of a game with magic this good, but the cast times get LONG later on so you're gonna want a pawn that can draw a lot of aggro and keep shit away from you while you cast
>>342063229
I love Witcher 3 but the combat just feels a little clunky.
I feel it was designed around small fights with 1-3 enemies, because it works really well for that. But the game much too commonly puts you in combat with 7 people at a time and it all kind of falls apart. And then half of the combat mechanics don't even work against monsters, which I think is silly because it actually removes depth.
>>342055772
Yeah, honestly I would have thought by this day and age we would have gotten more open world games that do secrets right (like Metroidvanias or something) and don't have so many fucking fetch quests. I like DD but you have to admit it needs more quests with substance.
If anyone managed to make an open world game without "kill/collect x amount y" then that will be the best open world game ever. I mean it's alright to have them like once or twice. But when you start seeing a fucking pattern... it's just like "oh boy, here we go".
>>342062990
There isn't a massive selection of spells, and the better ones can require quite a fair bit of initial charging to use, so its not as great as some anons make it out to be (although I still enjoyed it a lot).
Be aware that spell syncing with other sorcerers exists, so it may be worth having more than one on your team if you want that.
And 'Mage' is the support class with some pretty garbage initial stat increases, so you're better off picking a different starting class and then changing to Sorcerer when you can.
>>342055772
No MMO's didn't invent them, they just took them to the next fucking level. They made them despicable.
Resolution was blurry and framerrate constantly dropped but damn lightning and particles in this game were amazing for last gen consoles
>>342052743
I dunno man, I was sold the moment I realised you could toss the tutorial goblins off cliffs.
>>342063503
The combat was simple against 10+ enemies even on death march. This is simply because of how fucking overpowered Rend is (it ignores parrying, insane critical rate, and have stupid amount of range with the runewight upgrade), you don't even need to charge it up since you could chain up to 3 strike with animation canceling.
And even without rend, all you need to do is make proper use of bombs and focus on flanking (enemies have almost no chance to block/parry from the side and back)
>>342063503
That's true. Despite what Soulsfags believe the same is true for those games. It seems a lot of these series will have to evolve to either accomodate better crowd control mechanics or else admit that small fights are the way to go and advance enemy encounters to be more enjoyable and have more depth in combat that way. Monster Hunter seems to do pretty well despite mostly only fighting one monster at a time.
>>342064114
Well let me put it this way. Early game combat is very clunky. Late game improves.
>>342064114
Not to mention whirl spamming is still very effective on death march, simply because it extends your attack chain and helps to cover against many flanking attacks.
>>342064148
>Despite what Soulsfags believe the same is true for those games.
Nobody likes fights with like 10 enemies in Souls games.
>>342064148
Yeah. I love souls, but it's a major flaw. When the only way to deal with large groups is to manipulate the ai and purposefully aggro only 1-2 of them at a time while the other 4 in the group stand back and watch you fight their friends because you didn't step over their invisible aggro circle, it really kills immersion.
>>342063953
I agree and its honestly those kind of little nuances that make the game amazing. Climbing on a Cyclops when its leg is up to make it fall is fucking fantastic and really adds to the game. Its the same reasons I'm actually excited about that new Zelda game. It seems to put a ton of attention to detail.
I only wish that Dragon's Dogma had been better recognized for what it is. I mean EVERYONE in this industry eats up "cinematic gameplay" and finally a game that ACTUALLY truly has that instead of just scripted fucking garbage and it was treated like a fucking Skyrim ripoff... fucking skyrim...
>>342064456
Yeah, but you know soulsfags. They'll defend anything despite their believes because if everyone doesn't believe their favorite game is "the best game to ever touch the Earth" then is blasphemy.
>>342064516
Basically this. I love the games too though. Bloodborne was probably a step in the right direction if they were going multiple enemies. Not perfect but better. And the groups are typically smaller. Of course its a smaller game so it had less chances to fuck up.
>>342064601
If DD didn't have such a slow start and wasn't released right after Skyrim then it would've done so much better, but Capcom hate money
If I've never played DD but I want to pick it up. Are there any builds I should avoid because they make the game too easy, or ones that are absolutely shit and a waste of time?
>>342065205
Literally everything is viable. Play what you like the most. Don't be one of those fags that torture themselves minmaxing their builds.
>want to play magik archer
>they are actually garbage
Most fun I had in a game, thanks for showing it to me, /v/.
I just hope we get a sequel sometime in the future. It's just disheartening seeing all the stuff that got cut from the full release.
>>342065361
Only because magic doesn't see that much of a stat increase when leveling up as a Magik Archer.
>>342065449
Have you seen the GDC conference? It's pretty fun and pretty disheartening at the same time.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G5o3KhXv6w
>>342065205
Assassin makes the game easy, warrior makes the game hard. But they're both really fun to play
>>342065361
>Magick imbalancer x 4
>Sixfold bolt
>Everything dies in less than a minute, even the final, final, final, final boss
You can also go burning man and just be a strider with better damage
>farming for a coat of oblivion with max health regen in BBI
Looking back, I don't even know why I did thatalso holy shit it's only been five months since PC release I was reminiscing about it like it was a year ago
>>342061969
Howd you get your pawn to do that?
>>342065653
>This video contains content from Sony Music Entertainment (Japan) Inc.. It is not available in your country.
Why
>>342065723
I find Mage to make the game hard but I play solo mostly so that's probably why.
>>342065789
Try this one.
>http://gdcvault.com/play/1017869/Behind-the-Scenes-of-Dragon
Post your character
>>342065356
Not him but can I play some sort of Battlemage or Paladin and cast kickass huge spells while also beating the fuck out of people with a giant two-handed sword or axe or hammer or something?
>>342066193
Magick Knight
>>342065982
>>342066193
There's a class called Mystic Knight that sounds right up your alley, but it can't use two-handed weapons. The regular one-handed weapons get pretty big and beefy, though.
>>342066193
Mystic Knight can cast some spells but they aren't really as big or impressive as Sorc spells
>>342065449
You know, I want to use GeDoSaTo on DD to take hudless screenshots but for some reason it isn't working. The game doesn't crash nor does GeDoSaTo. But it doesn't actually hook because I can't turn things on like I'm supposed to or take screenshots.
It says I'm missing some dlls like D3DCompiler47, which I downloaded and put into sys32 but then had some other missing dll. I don't know it's probably Microsoft not properly fucking installing things anymore. He says use Visual C redist 2013 and I got both x86 and x64 versions but was still missing the dlls.
And then I looked it up online some more to find out that apparently Microsoft isn't installing things properly into Win 7 or 8 and Durante uses Win10 hence not having any problems. Fuck Microsoft man. Not really sure what to do about it. I heard that SweetFX/ReShade dev is working on a better and more automated version of the same kinds of features GeDoSaTo has and that's good. I only hope he does it soon and without the same errors I have with that program.
>>342066193
Two-handed greatswords are exclusive to the Warrior vocation. "Huge spells" are exclusive to Sorcerer vocation (these two vocations are basically the "experts" of their respective fields <physical combat and magic combat respectivelly>).
Mystic Knight is one of the two hybrid vocations (other one is Magick Archer) and he can pretty much buff his weapon and cast special offensive spells.
Curative magic is exclusive to Mages (I recommend having at least one of your Pawns be a Mage so he can heal the whole party. Never have more than one Mage, they are 'completely useless' in battle).
>>342065759
Ogres are weak to lightning so the pawn was casting lightning at it, it was sheer coincidencebut it's actually because she's the fucking best
>>342065759
See:
>Pawn Knowledge
>Pawn's Equipped Spells
>Pawn's Inclinations
Pretty much.
>>342065723
The game is cruise as fuck as Warrior. The only issue you'll ever have is those fucking ghost warriors in BBI because they take literally 0 physical damage after you take enough hp off.
>>342066739
I know there weak to it but my fucking pawn doesnt every do any cool shit.
I've played 360 and pc for hundreds of hours.
What the fuck?
I want your pawn.
>>342066946
I know all of that shit, but that doesn't tell me his pawns' ya fucking dork.
Pawns are also supposedly able to "learn" behavior.
>>342067568
UTILITARIAN
>>342067661
They are more likely to learn a lot of your bad behaviors (especially looting mid combat)
>>342065361
Say that to my fucking face
>>342067568
>>342067661
Use lightning on an ogre enough times and your pawn will learn to use lightning on ogres, repeat this with every enemy using every weakness and your pawn will wreck shit. I'd post my pawn for you to summon since pawns can learn from other pawns but I started a new character a few days ago so she's not in the rift anymore
Boy post-game was a kick in the nuts
>>342068103
>not sunflare instant reset canceling into triple jump while immolated
it's like you don't even want to CRAZY
IT WAS JUST A LARK BRO!
ALL IN GOOD FUN!
>>342067568
>>342067661
Use the Inclination Elixirs. Have high Pawn Knowledge and Utilitarian and he's going to kill everything. Guardian and Acquisitor never ever. Also, don't spam pawn commands, in fact, don't even bother touching the D-Pad.
>>342068337
Its mostly just the hellhounds designed to be super assholish with its behavior and moveset.
>>342068337
>tfw a hellhound grabs your loli-witchu and drags her into the bushes for HOT DOG DICKINGS
>>342062191
You can mash any button on the controller, not just the stick. That alone helps a ton and is just enough to escape an eliminator every time, but you need the augment to get out of larger monster grabs reliably.
>>342062876
Fulmination is life.
>>342065361
Pay attention to emelental weaknesses and magik archer is fucking amazing. They also have the best utility skills of any other class. The initial rank of any skill is pretty shit, you gotta at least pump shit up to rank 2 before you judge it.
Hell, keep a rusted staff on you for cursing action, and that alone will let you fuck pretty much everything.
So I had a question about reliably switching vocations
Ran fighter for about the first 15 levels then mystic knight for about another 7 then went warrior until where I am at now at 66
Getting kind of bored of things and wanted to know how easy it would be for me to switch back to mystic knight or even magick archer
>>342070532
Go for it, stat growth is irrelevant specially for MA, you'll rape things no matter what if you have at least a post game weapon or lv1 BBI weapon
>>342070532
Make sure you buy decent equipment before switching. Except for health and stamina equipment matters more than stats.
>>342070532
Jut grab the best weapons that are available and go for it.
MA works well no matter what you do. You have the knives for physical damage and the bow for magic - both have great skills that don't depend on your stats at all.
>>342049364
I fucking hope this goes on sale during the steam summer sale.
>>342049746
I'm sorry arisen, I'm not an animal behaviorist.
So is DDO really as shit as people say or is it just because it's not the DD2 people actually wanted?
>>342056535
based as fuck
>>342056535
>Else suffer what consequence?
FUCKING SAVAGE
>>342052676
TI'S WEAK TO FIRE!
>Cockatrices
>You don't have cures for Petrify
Can I have Berserk armor if I have Vanilla DD? How?
Why is fighter the best of the melee classes to play offensively? Fuck tanking I'm cutting fuckers down and bashing their faces in with my shield.
>>342073697
Actually most of the skill do depend on the stats.
>>342054558
>mfw I was born into most evil country in history
>mfw it's not even good at being evil
Modern day Rome my ass. This shit blows.
>>342075350
If you're playing Dragon's Dogma on a console, it doesn't matter whether it"s Dark Arisen or not. If it's PC, they were removed for copyright reasons. Anyway, you can buy Guts and Griffith's Armor and weapons from the Golden Age after you do a quest to clear a mine of Ogre's. It's expensive as fuck though, so you probably won't be able to afford it right away.
Just started playing a caster for the first time. Should I go guardian primary with dual sorcerers to keep my pawn close?
Picture unrelated.
>>342077136
Guardian is shit in every case, avoid it
Get utilitarian as the prime inclination
>>342077136
You should play solo MK on Hard for that money
>>342049364
>>342060254
Fuck this is actually really fucking neat. Why would someone bitch about this?
>>342060071
It was, everyone shits on DD's story but it's really good, especially the post-game/BBI stuff.
If only they didn't have the mid-game be trivial and stupid shit like salvation and salomets little club.
>>342065982
>>342065982
size difference yuri is best
>>342077409
Don't get utilitarian until your pawn gets some decent bestiary knowledge.
>>342079546
It's for the spellsynch
>>342065361
say again
Any good mods?
I already played the console version, and would like something a bit different.
>>342079607
Oh yeah, forgot that. Remember it only works with high level spells!
>>342079790
Not really, unless you count nude mods and ENBs.
