>every gaming media is excited because Kratos' character looks more interesting now
>no one mentions gameplay
How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
Always pay attention to what they DON'T want to show you.
Gameplay is probably shit.
>Nu-male of War
>>342029496
you'll get more gameplay over the next 2 E3 mate
>>342029496
They showed gameplay. The fight vs the troll thing was dark souls-esque (unlikely it will be anywhere near as hard, except maybe on the toughest difficulty, so don't be mistaken about my comparison.)
>Sony
There's your problem.
>>342029496
>Kratos becomes a step father, grows a full beard, becomes less angry and the game becomes a movie
>critics love it
At this point its basically confirmed meme magic is real.
>>342029496
Because the previous games had shit gameplay, they were button mashers without any of the finesse that other button mashers have.
>>342029496
That's what happen when you want to turn videogames into movies
I really really do not understand how people care about the story in God of War. It was always just an excuse to violently kill mythical creatures in cool locations.
David Jaffe would roll in his grave if he could see this "emotional story" bullshit.
>>342029905
>>342029918
I'm not saying they didn't show any gameplay. What I'm saying is that the game is getting hyped because of Kratos change of character and his interaction with the kid,
It shouldn't be
>I'm excited for the story, gameplay will follow
but
>I'm excited for the gameplay, story will follow
>>342029496
I thought that dad games were just a fad for 2013
>>342030209
You know, Im fine with the change of mythology. I was getting bored with killing the same creatures over and over again (minotaurs, centaurs, dogs, sirens, etc) but I can't accept what they have done with the game
not like gameplay changes much anymore
you can change combos and enemies, but ultimately still feels the same in either just a bit better or worse -- would need some bigger genre-changing alterations to mean much
story/characters/art/music/etc.. the only thing that make them feel like their own unique game
>>342030257
if you follow gaming media trends no one gives a fuck about mechanics or graphical fidelity it's about muhstory/feels
irregardless of the depth/complexity of the mechanics it makes more sense to go story heavy as an introduction
>>342029496
GoW was always shit though so whats the issue with them trying something new with it?
Looks like a mix of new Tomb Raider and the Last of Us.
Pass.
>>342030509
>irregardless
>>342029496
>How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
switch the word story with presentation mate
all about presentation
I want to choke every person who thought making GoW mature and cinematic was a good idea.
I was never a big fan of the series but holy shit they butchered the personality of the series harder than DmC.
>>342030138
>step father
Stop this
>>342030676
God of War was always cinematic. Are you retarded?
>>342030676
Okay they didn't go quite that far.
>>342030778
Not it wasn't.
Yes it was a subpar version of DMC, yes it had some cinematic moments, but it didn't look or play like TLOU.
>>342029793
>look mom, I posted another pol buzzword!
>/v/ spends years hating God of War, especially 3 since we can't pretend the PS3 had games
>they change the formula
>suddenly they pretend old games were good
/v/ should be one person
So we can all agree that the new God of War is just a TLoU ripoff right?
At the very least it's pandering to the TLoU audience and straying away from the things that made God of War what it was before, alienating the original audience.
This should be a huge shitstorm but everyone seems to suck Sony's dick for it.
TLoU:
>In the game you play a man, haunted by the past, with a big beard
>Your companion is a small kid that uses a bow
The new God of War:
>You play Kratos, who seems haunted by his past (more than before), who now has a big beard
>Your companion is a small kid that uses a bow
Last of Us gameplay:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t_IkD3WEy8M
nuGod of War gameplay:https://youtu.be/CJ_GCPaKywg?t=1m22s
How gameplay in God of War looked before:https://youtu.be/gkeN2lG4guY?t=1m
The camera angle alone gives it away instantly
>>342031003
That's not the point of the thread anon.
Even if the gameplay is better now, it's still the story that most people seem to care.
>>342030879
Yes it was. God of war was one of the games that opened up gamers to the idea of being "cinematic"
don't pretend like fully half the budget of the series isn't spent in seconds-long QTE sequences. God of War has a lot of outright gameplay, and it's good gameplay at that, but it was absolutely a bastion of the coming "cinematic" games
>>342029496
blame TLOU for kratos and his wife's son. the gameplay tries to be dark souls but with that camera it doesnt work.
>>342031003
I didn't know there were users this stupid on /v/ until this game. You do realize its possible for something to go from bad to worse right?
>>342030778
There's cinematic (as in big literally EPIC set pieces) and "cinematic" Sony shit where the camera doesn't help the gameplay, the game is constantly interrupted for scripted scenes and animations and the gamplay takes a back seat compared to the "story" and muh struggles and muh son.
>>342031069
>alienating the original audience
those people are all old now though and nobody liked ascension that formula is dead
>>342030868
DmC atleast had some resemblance of old DMC in it. You could take a quick glance at the gameplay and it actually still looked like DMC.
GoW is not only getting a complete tonal change like DmC, they are changing the meat and potatoes gameplay to the extent that it's no longer recognisable as God of War. Even fucking DmC had that.
>>342031130
>dark souls doesnt work with a good camera
so..this...is..the...power...of...fromdrones
>>342031003
would be solved it was on PC
>>342031181
I wouldn't get angry about something bad becoming worse though
it's bad.. I didn't care about it
look at all the threads with people getting triggered by niggers, theres your answer
>>342031232
I wanted to like it but for some reason they made the enemies really high health and I could not play the game without my arthritis forcing me to stop
btw this is your future /v/ enjoy your cuhrazy while you can
gow:a also seemed really uninspired though...like just no reason to exist
>>342030209
>David Jaffe would roll in his grave if he could see this "emotional story" bullshit.
https://twitter.com/davidscottjaffe/status/742578184260968448
He loves the fresh take on it. Spoilers, most people are not as jaded or delusional as 4Chan posters.
>>342031453
>4Chan
>defending cinematic movie game shit
poetry.
>>342031181
>bad to worse
but /v/ is literally garbage at action/fighting games dubbing them buttonbashers and while gow was probably on the most casual of the action genre it now seems to have been influenced by souls deliberate pacing (/v/ game of the forever) games but since it's an exclusive it gets shit on
>>342029496
Well GOW3 gameplay was shit so you know it will be better already.
>>342029496
>How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
After Witcher 3 release.
>>342029496
the small gameplay we've seen already looks better than the hack and slash shit it was before
and the story seems better as well
>>342029496
Basically when given the choice between
>Should we be more like movies/television
>Should we be more like board games
The major studios went with the movies because they're more popular.
>Game is being made by Corey Balrog who made the best God of war and introduced the most gameplay mechanics in the series
>has repeatedly stated that people already expect great gameplay from God of war so he thought he'll show the story this time as a change of pace
>/v/ spergs out and calls it shit nonstop
So when the game comes out and it turns out to be amazing, I guess the shitposting will continue because some of you have already wasted a year or two insulting the game nonstop to not leave it alone just like every other game /v/ has shat on.
>>342031003
While the trend among journalists praising this game irks me, I'm actually quite happy to see this happen to God of War. I'm pretty salty about the series and what it did to action games -- killing NG and DMC for a long time and possibly forever -- so to see it devolve into a The Last of Us clone makes me think it will no longer plague the genre. Also, its fans have to watch the series they love crumble into dust, and that's pretty satisfying.
>>342031607
How the fuck is it anything like the Souls games?
It looks crap, but I picked up 3 remastered today and either that game was shit or the series is worse than I remember anyway.
No chance I ever touch 4 though. Any game with a walk and talk for 10 minutes section can fuck off.
>>342029496
>MGS5
>best gameplay of the series
>/v/ hates it cause of the story
>>342030954
What the hell are you talking about? It's far from being a buzzword.
Kratos isn't nu-male though.
>>342031681
You're happy to see a franchise killed for no actual reason? Great, good job.
>no jump button
Game is fucked
Why is no one mad that TWO black guys have/are playing a white guy?
>>342029496
Because you can't really judge the gameplay based on the little we've seen, but the differences in character that Kratos shows are much more obvious and say a lot more since Kratos as a character has been established for a long time?
>>342031637
>the small gameplay we've seen already
the small gameplay you've seen already looks like mashing x repeatedly with no actual gameplay. explain how that's better than gow 1-3?
there is no action in the teaser that showed combat beyond mashing X or rolling out of the way and then mashing X then doing a QTE.
Why does /v/ want to pretend the GOW games were bad? Is it because they were popular?
did you guys know the beatles are good too? When I was in high school I figured the beatles must suck, because they were so popular. Sometimes, when things are popular, it's actually because they are good. Who knew?
Casuals.
Despite how "accessible" the previous GoW games were, they were STILL too difficult (or video gamey) for them. Now a hack-and-slash for beginners has become the only genre casuals can handle, a third-person, narrative-driven, cinematic experience.
>>342031527
My phone auto corrected the capitalization. Sue me.
The original games were garbage, it's really fucking ironic that the only reason anyone would play GoW over something like DMC is because of the cinematic casual story telling QTE bullshit and now the new game is getting flak on here for doing what the original games did but not trying to be a Japanese action game and failing at it. Even if the new game sucks at least it tried to make things better instead of rehashing the same not good formula over and over again like the last fucking 6 GoW games.
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>>342030954
>pol
This is how we know you're not from around here. Fucking R*dditors.
>>342031309
poor reading comprehension or simply shitposting? I wonder.
>>342031787
>introducing gameplay in movies
that's the problem here
>>342031910
>it because they were popular?
Stop reading there.
Fuck off retard. GOW has always been a mediocre action game, new one is going to be far better.
>>342031939
>posting on 4chan from your phone
i wish all of you would die. you're the drones who sit there looking at your phone no matter what is happening in the world around you
you honestly represent the death of the human race
>>342031868
I stated my reason. It's like watching the man who killed my family fall into a woodchipper. Why would I not be happy about that?
>>342029496
also you follow shit media outlets
>>342031129
there was a difference in GoW though. at least in 1, 2 and 3, especially in 1 and 2, the bigger more cinematic QTEs were placed alongside the full gameplay/action sequences in such a way that it involved the player. you felt like you were doing that, which is part of why scenes like the one where you're moving the two giant horses is fucking badass and sticks to the mind.
in that regard i feel it's kind of unfair to blame GoW for the "go through this horde of enemies then watch a 5 min movie, rinse and repeat" crap we see nowadays.
Even from a story standpoint
what is impressive about the story?
teaching your wife's son how to hunt?
what relevance do the norse monsters even have?
it really seems like they are just there, what did Kratos do to them/vice versa?
But why there is no female Kratos?
>>342032076
I am in a bar killing time before my friends get here. Go fuck yourself retard.
>>342029496
"Gaming media" is pure cancer
>>342029496
because the gameplay shown is nothing revolutionary
it looks ok
looks like what you would expect from a god of war game
it's not that no one gives a fuck about the gameplay, it's just that it doesn't stand out
if it ends up being shit, people will cry about it
>>342029496
>press X to win
Oh man, it's a real shame we aren't having deep conversations about that
>>342031637
>and the story seems better as well
We went from an angry guy who kills gods to a depressed guy who teaches his wife's son how to use a bow?
How is that better?
>>342032134
Bare jugs would cause a feminist outcry.
>>342031923
Oh shut the fuck up. GOW is dogshit and casual compared to far better games like NG, Bayonetta, MGR, or DMC. I have never gone back to play a GoW, they're boring.
Nier Automata looks 100x better than any older GOW too.
>>342032134
These are the REAL questions that need to be asked.
>>342032168
TALK TO OTHER PEOPLE AT THE BAR, MORON
YOU FUCKING THINK IT'S ACCEPTABLE BEHAVIOR TO SIT THERE LOOKING AT YOUR PHONE ***AT A BAR***
YOU ARE THE EXACT FUCKING REALITY OF WHAT I WAS POSTING ABOUT
>>342032076
Which is better than doing the same thing on the computer.
>>342032134
>all those dad games
where are the mom games anyway?
>>342032134
>What is Heavenly Sword?
>>342029496
After Witcher 3 won and Last of Us won GOTY it should be obvious the industry doesn't value gameplay anymore.
>>342032218
Who wrote that drivel?
I want to kill them in an excruciating manner.
>>342032134
Kratos is gender neutral
>>342032371
that indeed felt like the closest to what a female kratos / game would feel like
she was also the shittiest character in her game with every one else being absolutely awesome
>>342032127
They obviously kill his son. Trouble is they do this half parsed stuff before hand and you're expected to care JUST because it's a kid. Even though there's zero development. Same as TLOU or that awful Dead Island trailer.
>>342032436
Mike Splechta
>>342031607
How the fuck is it soulslike at all?
Stop spouting this shit
>>342031272
In terms of gameplay, it's probably less of a change than GoW is undergoing (That's not saying much), but in terms of tone and story it's probably an even bigger departure.
This new God of War at least feels like a natural extension of GoW's story after 3, even if they're focusing way heavier on it than before.
>>342030879
>Not it wasn't.
>yes it had some cinematic moments
so if it had cinematic moments it was cinematic
this new god of war isn't a walking simulator, it was just an intro and he walked for 2 minutes or so before enemies appeared, and then there was a lot of fighting
>>342032083
No, I got that. It's just that what you sense was shockingly stupid.
>>342032375
TLoU has less than 3 hours of cinematics in a 15 hour long game. You. Are. A. Faggot.
>>342032076
The human race isn't worth saving.
>>342032535
since it's gow and any kind of bullshit can happen visiting hell or whatever, I hope we at lest won't go on a quest to.. revive.. him
>kratos' character looks more interesting
>it's kratos, but washed out and with a neckbeard
ehhhh??
>>342031787
This. Some of /v/ has legitimate complaints but a vas majority are just contrarian retards. They learn eventually.
>>342032371
A pulpy pile of shit
>>342032365
mother games?
The God of War games never had good gameplay so maybe they just assume it's going to be more of the same.
I'm excited for both. I may still be excited when it releases in 2 years.
>>342032829
>The God of War games never had good gameplay
>le it was never good maymay
>>342032732
neckbeards are in vogue.
>>342032365
>start game
>MC already confirmed to have been fucked by the patriarchy
>>342032083
Because God of War didn't kill the other two series you listed.
Capcom killed DMC, Team Ninja killed Ninja Gaiden.
God of War was always more popular, but it had no impact on why those two series are now dead nor did it have any impact on how DMC and NG played.
The genre they belong to also never really had a whole lot of games and the ones that didn't copy God of War copied DMC(Like Castlevania did before the western reboot)
If you are going to hate God of War do hate it for the right reasons.
>let's take a successful and iconic IP/Series and change it 100% but keep the characters to appeal to a broader audience
>surprised original fans are upset
Why not just make a new IP instead of alienating the already existing fanbase?
Why does this keep happening?
DmC, RE4, RE7, ME2, Dead Space 3, and etc
>>342032309
What are you, 12? Do you think a bar is a party? That people go to random bars to socialize and interact with the "community"? People are here to drink and play video poker. I'm not gonna go schmaltz my way next to some 65 year old casino clerk who is trying to forget about her shitty job in a vain attempt to fill some status quo that doesn't exist. You're an idiot.
>>342032703
Most of that "gameplay" is walking forward while characters talk.
>>342032968
Because the existing fanbase is terrible
>game's gonna be in the style of nu-raider
lol and people are excited for this
>>342032972
You are hanging out in the wrong bars then
>sonyshills trying to defend games
Don't you have 10 seconds of Spider-man gameplay to be hyping up instead?
>>342032703
>this shit again
TLOU is not cinematic because of its actual cutscenes. It's cinematic cause it hides more cutscenes behind "gameplay".
>>342032902
There has never been a good God of War game. It's awful character action knock off trash that some western idiots copied (poorly) from Japan. If you feel otherwise, you're just another braindead sonypony Mexican. Sorry.
>>342032968
>Original fans are X amount of people
>Market grows larger
>Suits and developers realize that there is potential for more if they pander to the larger audience
>Throw away old fans in an attempt to gain more money
>Use well known IP to have a strong start no matter how the end product actually will be
It's very common and will continue to happen as long as the industry keeps growing.
There is no way around it andthey never cared for you in the first place. Don't even have to bring up artistic integrity
>>342033019
>>342033148
Leave it to neckbeards to not know about walking and talking.
Have you pathetic virgins even left your parent's basement in the last 10 years?
>>342033119
It's 3 PM. I'm not here to plow some bar slag, I'm here to hang out with my friends and drink.
>>342032968
>RE4
This one was the original director realizing the series was going in an action direction and changing the camera/gameplay to match. Probably shouldn't have been a numbered entry in retrospect but that's marketing.
>>342031787
>walk around in the vast emptiness
>kidnap some people
>stop these tanks for who knows what reason
It had like 3 good moments. There was no reason for doing anything and nothing to compel you onward. The presentation felt cheap and tacky too. It was just all round crap. I'll take MGS1 any day of the week. Gameplay us nothing without atmosphere.
>>342032972
>I've never gotten laid from a bar before
ftfy
>>342032902
It wasn't. If you actually think it had really good gameplay you're a fucking pleb.
God of War has always been the dudebro normie hack and slash QTE fest and butt of many DMC/Ninja Gaiden jokes.
Why suddenly people on /v/ pretend to be original GOW fans and also pretend to be offended when they change something? No tears is shed with the death of GOW IP. The dudebro target audience has moved to cinematic story based TPS, so will GOW. Back in the days dmitting you like GOW is like admitting you like Madden or Cowaduddy on /v/.
You guys are generating fake outrage and making real fans of butchered IP like DMC, Metroid or Tomb Raider looks bad. These people have legitimate complaints, you guys GOW """"fans"""" don't.
>>342033294
>is a feature
>>342032661
>and then there was a lot of fighting
compared to old gow? not that much
>>342029496
Because Sonyggers love movies more than games
Did everyone miss the fact that Kratos' rage meter fills almost to 100% during the scene where he's chastising the boy for shooting more quickly?
He literally almost totally lost control and killed the boy right there, for failing a bow shot. Kratos is basically the embodiment of PTSD style rage. I think it's quite interesting what they're doing with the world and character
however the game will obviously suck. The last bastion of people who care about "Gameplay" is games like dota or hopefully quake champions
>>342032956
>Capcom killed DMC, Team Ninja killed Ninja Gaiden.
You can use this logic to defend anything popular ruining genres. "Activision and CoD didn't ruin shooters, the companies that copied them did." Companies go where the money is, and if the money is in lowest common denominator garbage that gets popular because of marketing, they're going to copy that. Sure, some of the blame goes to the companies, but it's only natural for a corporation to want to make money, and you can blame a dumb popular game and the company that made it for even existing too, because if they didn't exist, things would have gone on as normal.
>>342033231
>>342033374
samefag
>>342029496
Why are you worried about gameplay in a fucking God of War game?
It's literally Press square with a shitty camera: the game
They could do anything and it'd be better than GoW 1 through Ascension.
>>342033386
God of War came out in like 2003 or something when Call of Duty was the best shooter on the market.
>>342033386
I know one normie GoW fan who was super excited for GoW3 back then (when I was like huh? who cares), then he also played TLoU loved it, and now he's super excited for the new GoW
I guess he's happy
>>342033386
I like GoW and I liked quite a few Madden games
Thinking that there's this "untouchable" class of games that you "can't like" makes you the normies, anon. I have played video games since 1985, I have contributed to the industry,I have been a reviewer, I have been a developer. And I love GoW and I lvoed some Maddens.
A lot of you here seem to have this idea that you can dictate reality based on waht you think popular opinion here on /v/ is...Guess what? Popular opinion is popular opinion, and /v/'s popular opinion is wrong FAR more often than right
Either make your own decisions, make your own judgments, or don't open your mouth.
>>342033586
u tryed
>>342033502
>Quake Champions
don't make me laugh. It looks like it's going the "class-shooter" way and Overwatch already has that covered
>>342032968
Fans don't mean anything
End of the day what matters is money.
Noone gives two shits about you, regardless of what the PR people tell you.
Devs and Producers only care about money, did you honestly think people go into gaming because it's a passion? Fuck no. They go into for the money. They want to make a big hit and then milk it into the ground. They will make anything and everything as long as it will sell.
GoW becoming a TLoU cut and paste "cinamatic story" game says more about the gaming population than it does the devs. This is what is popular now. The focus is one what sells, not the gameplay. Look at Capcom, take RE7 for example. They claim its roots only to shit on you and make it a Outlast clone. Thats whats popular, so thats what will be made.
Grow up and stop being entitled, as much as people claim its a meme, its now the truth. Devs owe you nothing. You supported their franchise before, cool? You're just a spec of dirt beneath their heels.
the fuck
he looks like ass
>>342033752
>it looks like bluh bluh
you'd have to be stupid and not part of the quake era to think it wouldn't have real quake modes such as ctf, CA and ffa, which are already confirmed. sorry, you might have to try a little harder to hate this game before you've played it.
I like story.
I like gameplay.
I'd prefer they were both good.
I can forgive a game for having a bad story of it has good gameplay. I can forgive bad gameplay if it has a good story. I guess I'm a faggot.
>>342033880
They said that they are pandering to players on every skill-level, which means that it's gonna be casualized shit
The gameplay seems like something between ryse and bamham, it will suck ass so hard but it will also get a shit ton of praises from the press and casual audience because muh interactive entertainment is not about the gameplay as the video games were.
This E3 was a trainwreck but at least Nier Automata looks like a solid game so it seem that vidya is not totally dead.
>>342033424
it was just the intro section you dingus
it's where they have to establish the story and the characters
there will certainly be sections later where you will fight more
why do people panic so easily?
they introduced the fucking game with that trailer
of course they picked a cinematic moment, because it's going to be the first impression people will have of the game
>>342033983
>I can forgive bad gameplay if it has a good story. I guess I'm a faggot.
You are
It looks overly scripted like many of the new Naughty Dog games which I'm really not a fan off(multi-player in UC and TLoU is fun tho)
but at the same time I am a fan of Norse mytho and Nordic Viking settings
so I guess it should be worth a rent
>>342033817
>tfw completely balded but beard still growing like no tomorrow, and skin very pale from never going outside
literally me
People who say God of War was never good are the same retards who say Halo was always shit and are just generally meme-spouters.
God of War may not have compared to DMC3 or Bayonetta, but it was a hell of a lot better than all the story-focused crap we have now. The games had fairly deep combat, puzzles, and nice environmental design.
>>342033386
Regardless of if it being casual or not it sets a terrible precedent. If this sells well, what's to stop sony from changing their other IPs?
Will Jax and Daxter be revealed to be closeted homosexuals and you go on an adventure of self discovery and accepting yourself for who you are? And Jax and Daxter 4 be a walking simulator detailing said story?
Thats what I was thinking and why I dont give a shit about this at all.
>follow NPC down path
>scripted as fuck "gameplay" with claustrophobic camera
>let me just take away control now to show you something super cool!
>>342029496
>gameplay
PRESS X TO SPARTAN RAGE!
>>342030138
Critics love movie games because they pander to them. They're easily digestible, look nice, aren't very difficult, and have a cohesive straight forward narrative.
>>342030209
Agreed, the story was always dumb as fuck. I loved the gameplay. The new setting looks cool, but the short gameplay clip from the trailer looks awful, what is it, some sort of behind the shoulders third person brawler? It looks like Gears of War without guns.
>>342030138
>step father
>ignoring the fact that everyone is talking about its dufferent approach to gameplay
so igniting flame wars is allowed now?
>>342029496
Why do you care what gayming sites say?
>>342034107
>renting games
what is this, 1999?
>>342033564
Do explain where God of War had an impact on DMC then.
Because it sure as fuck wasn't changing DMC's game design for the story presentation, or adding in platforming, or QTEs.
Even when they handed DMC to Ninja Theory it didn't become God of War, it became a simplified shit version of DMC with a horrible story. It still resembled DMC, not God of War
Ninja Gaiden also did not take anything from God of War.
Even in your post you said:
>but it's only natural for a corporation to want to make money
If God of War existed or not the same thing would have happened because the company wanted to make more money.
And for
>You can use this logic to defend anything popular ruining genres. "Activision and CoD didn't ruin shooters, the companies that copied them did."
Yes, the ones that lazily aped what's popular is to blame more than what is actually popular.
Not defending CoD, but it is obvious that something like CoD or WoW became it's own thing that can't have it's success copied yet people still keep trying it.
>>342034389
got a problem?
>>342034139
>God of War may not have compared to DMC3 or Bayonetta
explain to me how it didnt compare
because pedantic combo stringing isnt something im interested in. there's a reason why DMC is a niche series and GoW is one of the best selling series of all time
more complex doesn't mean better. I thought DMC games were bad because the enemies are the worst HP sponges of all time.
What's up with all the faggots on /v/ thinking they aren't casuals?
GoW has always been an entry beat 'em all game, and the story was shallow as shit on purpose.
Get off your high horses, you fucking nerds.
>>342029496
LET'S HAVE GOD OF WAR (THE SAME SHIT) X 4
SQUARE SQUARE TRIANGLE XDXDXD
Guys, the biggest problem is that axe. The blades were fun and unique. And axe is lame and unoriginal.
>>342034068
every intro in old god was some badass fight, hydra, statue, poseidon and even that sister in ascension. this one started like tlou, looks like tlou and will stay like tlou. this was not intro, this is gameplay we will gave for the entire game, from start to end fuck you
>>342034614
as opposed to
walk forward, walk forward, walk forward, x, walk forward, walk forward, walk forward, walk forward, x walk forward, walk forward, walk forward right?
>>342034630
You don't even know the extent of its power. And how the fuck is a boomerang-axe unoriginal, you turd?
Change is good.
>>342029496
only retards write about video games for a living
>>342034565
There's a reason why DMC is a niche series and GoW is one of the best selling series of all time
Yes, because DMC has difficutly and GoW doesn't. It's just square simulator.
>>342034420
He's saying that DMC clones would have been better than God of War clones.
Gameplay takes effort. Watching a story doesn't. Everything that takes effort or skill is looked down upon outside of sports. We truly are the last of us.
>>342029496
Video games became a normie meme.
>>342029793
nu-males wish they had that much testosterone
>>342033502
I'm betting it's auras wrath style where the rage is basically the enemies health, you need to fight until rage is high enough then that will prompt the killing animation.
Also I just want to say god of war has always had shitty game play, so any changes have to be an improvement by default. I don't see how anyone can defend mindless 2 button beat em up combos. You can play with your eyes closed and still win
>>342029496
>people passionate about something make a lot of money from it
>jews see it as an opportunity to make money
>jews have no idea what made said thing good
>try to appeal " to a larger audience" to make money
>make bland turd with no inspiration as result
>oversaturate the market
>it's not impossible for people who are passionate about said thing to get recognition to sell their product
That's what happened to every entertainment medium. No one is free from the hungering jew.
>>342034139
>the new thing is bad so the old thing is good now
Gow was never good.
>>342034729
>Change is good.
did you already changed your gender you massive faggot?
>>342033386
The fact that GoW was for casuals in the first place only makes the genre change worse.
Sony has made a beginner friendly franchise even easier.
>>342034901
>don't support new abomination
>devs say "lol guess noone liked it"
>>342034614
Because a movie is so much better.
>>342034773
why would i want difficulty out of a single player action game?
see when you come to /v/ you get the worlds worst autists about whatever genre or series
but me as a normal person...i just never found dmc fun, at all. whatsoever. I rented all 3 of the first games and i never had fun because the enemies take 30 minutes to kill
japanese game design is just bad. a game being easy doesnt make it bad, just because a hard game exists in the same genre.
the hard game wasn't fun. and the character you worhsip as being "cool" is basically the worst of late 90s goth anime "cool" tropes. he's laughable. just so you understand.
>>342034614
xxxyyy
you will get sucked
>>342034389
I rent from gamestop all the time. Abuse the fuck out of that no questions asked return policy
>>342034226
No, critics love movie games because they are not able to play actual games.
>>342034648
god forbid they do something different
times change
if you can't see that they just wanted to show an emotional trailer to make a good first impression and actually think that the whole game is gonna be like TLOU you are legit retarded
literally
>>342035251
What are you talking about? Fill a brother in
>>342032076
Don't forget your trench coat on the way out the door.
>>342034987
>did you already changed
Retards in charge of english. I'm now aware you're just dumb as shit.
>>342035207
>why would i want difficulty out of a single player action game?
Here's the first of the (You)s you're fishing for.
>>342034773
only DMC 1 was hard
>>342030138
That's what happens when tons of CGI makers get fired
>>342035386
stop deluding yourself, this is how entire game will look like
>>342034786
Same shit different toilet.
You can't blame the original game for being popular, you can blame people who try to copy it's success without even trying.
>>342035386
So the game is going to change engine after the intro and suddenly have gameplay?
>>342035462
Can you answer the question instead of just repurposing an idea that was never yours?
I play multiplayer games for challenge. I play games where I play against "myself" for challenge, like racing games.
Why would I want to play against AI monsters for challenge? That's for FUN.
Now this is going to seem like a (you) seeking statement but it's honestly real..People who play single player games for challenge are people who can't handle fighting humans, or themselves.
It's like this: More and more young men, for reasons that no one cares to study because society doesn't care about young men, have committed mass shootings in recent years. Every time these mass shootings occur, in an effort to create yet another pop cultural icon, the media delves into every aspect of the killer's life to run their news piece. As these killers are almost uniformly young men, they tend to have interests such as video games, which are popular among that particular demographic.
As they continue to build this disgusting human being into the next Kim Kardashian, they delve into the Killer's life for clues as to what pushed them over the edge. Seeing that they liked video games, the media repeatedly brings them up as the reason for the shootings as video games aren't popular among older people and pretty young women, the demographic that makes up most reporters.
Those in the industry feel threatened by these accusations and, as a defense mechanism, try to push their games as art, hoping to find a legal means of keeping the government from censoring their most profitable type of game (1st person shooters). Movies and television are seen as artistic mediums, and what is widely regarded as the most important element of those mediums is character and story. So, to make their games more like movies and television, more games focus on story instead of allowing the players agency.
This is why in the new god of war, a game previously about killing massive amounts of monsters, you now have long, on-rail segments with focus on Kratos and his family instead of killing monsters.
tl;dr-- The media.
>>342035581
it had gameplay
gr8 b8 m8
>>342035207
>japanese game design is just bad
You couldn't say a more false statement.
I like it
Are we even sure you'll play Kratos and not the son? The fact that only the kid gets experience while playing makes me think the intro is just like the Intro in TLOU except the da dies
The gameplay-to-story golden ratio varies from genre to genre, but I agree, focusing on Kratos' character over the game itself is silly.
Reminds me of the hype campaign for FFXV that was all about how great it was that the game was about going on a roadtrip with your bros
As if that constituted a good premise for a JRPG in any way.
>>342034420
In terms of specifics, not much. DmC took R3+L3 for super mode, NG3 got QTEs, but that's basically it. But both it and NG3 took from GoW not specifics, but general simplification. They wanted bombastic, easily flashy games with simplified controls and movesets, because that's what GoW was and that's where the money was.
>If God of War existed or not the same thing would have happened because the company wanted to make more money.
This is not true, they would have continued making technical action games because that's what was selling and was popular. But because GoW happened, and got even better numbers, the companies got greedy and aped it. You can say something like GoW would have happened anyway, but you can't know for sure, and regardless, GoW did happen and that's the one to blame.
Do we have to go through this? Is it newfags, shitposting, or anti Sony? I don't understand because GoW has always been mediocre compared to many other action titles. It was never particularly good at anything besides being entertaining for a playthrough at most.
>>342035407
Gamestop has a 7 day return policy for used games. So buy a used game, play it and then return it before the week is up, then buy a new game or if you didnt finish yet just buy the same one at a different store and do the same thing a week later. I basically use gamestop as an open line of credit
>>342035704
.........Right, that's why japanese games are at the forefront of industry innovation in the past 10 years.
Go ahead and name a single one except dark souls that has mattered. In ten years. A japanese game that has honestly mattered in ten years other than souls.
there isn't one.
>>342035789
>It's a shitposter pretending to be an oldfag episode
>>342029496
Even Ascencion is better than this, what happened?
>>342029496
>342029496
>these comments are real
>>342035868
Metal Gear Solid Phantom Pain was getting 10/10 and GOTY awards.
>>342035868
Define "mattered". I get the feeling it means to you "something casual enough even a retard like me can enjoy it".
>>342035615
You can master skills in a singleplayer and have fun doing it.
>>342035207
Because difficulty is a path to fun. And enemies in DMC take longer to kill because you're supposed to enjoy yourself exploring the game's combat systems. Basically it's not about efficiency in killing things it's about pushing yourself and styling.
If all someone wants to do is clear the game there are countless ways to abuse the system and completely destroy those "thirty minute enemies".
>>342035898
Well meemed
Anyone have that one comic about the dev and the consumer about
>This game doesn't appeal to me, can you please change it so it does
?
>>342035868
>says Japanese design is bad
>changes argument to being about "mattering"
You could run for office.
>>342035386
I wonder how most people would react if we changed Last of Us to a crazy over the top game where you slayed hordes of zombies with a melee weapon that spit acid?
I wonder how people would react if Super Mario was now a first person sci fi shooter?
Yes, change is good. But you need to set limits. A good way of change can be seen in Zelda games, where they have different visuals and mechanics (3 day cycle in MM, sailing in WW, etc) and they keep changing that, while the core idea (action adventure, puzzles, types of temples) stay the same. What God of War did is a completely radical change that doesn't retain anything from older games, hence it could be a new franchise.
>>342036065
Sure you can, but do you think that's for the vast majority of people, even hardcore gamers?
I am morre hardcore than 99.99% of people on /v/ and always have been. I have been a pro gamer, I have reviewd games professionally, I have work included in retail games.
I don't like DMC and I like GoW. One game is pedantic and not fun, one game is fun. Why am I wrong?
Is it wrong to like a genuinely cool western protagonist over a protagonist that basically represents japanese males' desire to be female? I am really not trolling here. If you understand bishou you understand it to be true.
>>342035615
>People who play single player games for challenge are people who can't handle fighting humans, or themselves.
You know what's great about single-player games? Never getting stabbed in the back by a guy standing in front of me because of shitty netcode. I never hved to worry about one of my enemies being able to kill me from anywhere with a headshot because of an aimbot, I never had a boss freeze the game and wait for me to leave because I was beating him, I never had to deal with AI gaming the system and killing me with weapons that could do triple my life total in a single swing with armor that could absorb all of my damage, I never had to stop playing because some mook decided to spam report on me because he was upset I beat him.
AI monsters are fun because there are rules and the AI has to follow them. Multiplayer games aren't fun because people can't handle losing and will do all sorts of stupid bullshit things so they "win".
>DUDE GAMEPLAY IN A VIDEO GAME
Video games shouldn't be focused on the gameplay anymore if they want to be taken as a serious medium in the world of arts. The story is what matters now.
God of War 4 shitposter checklist
It was never good
It was already causal
Who cares, it was stale
I didn't like gore anyways
I didn't like greek mythology
So? Who cares, series was dead
IT IS HIS SON!!!
>>342036403
>I have been a pro gamer, I have reviewd games professionally, I have work included in retail games.
Oh so you're a cancerous faggot.
>>342034614
Yes.
God of War was a very fucking basic action game.
This is less.
Do people genuinely not understand why everyone is pissed off?
It is moving in the wrong direction.
>>342036403
>I am morre hardcore than 99.99% of people on /v/
t. casual faggot who hates challenging games. You're wrong because you don't have an argument outside of "I don't like it".
>>342029496
I don't see how people can get behind the story. All I could think about when Kratos talked to that kid was that puzzle were you had drag some screaming bitch into a death machine to progress. I don't see how I'm supposed to relate to like this character. When he was just a death machine and the game was all about that yeah that's fine but if you're gonna do this Last of Us shit it helps to have a main character who wasn't created from the ground up to be an unstoppable inhuman one-man army.
I would be a lot more interested if it wasn't Kratos again. If they're gonna move the series to a new mythology they should have come up with a new character altogether
>>342035207
>Japanese game design is just bad
>>342036494
10/10 post
thank you for actually caring enough to express your thoughts and not just be like "lol ur retard i meme u"
the level of discussion on /v/ has dropped to nothing
but anyway, you are basically arguing in the same way that i referred to racing games. playing against yourself, not the AI
But that isn't the argument that most people make for DMC, the argument they make is "the game is harder to clear than GOW and that means it is more valuable"
it is not aboue competing with thesmelves to get better, it is simply about the game being objectively harder. So you are different than the people i am chastising
>>342036550
so you actually hated it and still played it?
>>342036341
>I wonder how most people would react if we changed Last of Us to a crazy over the top game where you slayed hordes of zombies with a melee weapon that spit acid?
>I wonder how people would react if Super Mario was now a first person sci fi shooter?
there is no drastic change in the new god of war game like you are describing
you might as well ask "what if they turned god of war into a point and click adventure"
well they didn't
it's still an action game
>>342035768
>They wanted bombastic, easily flashy games with simplified controls and movesets, because that's what GoW was and that's where the money was.
It's true that is where the money was, but NG and DMC did not simplify controls.
Even NG3 kept the sword having it's full moveset and that was made to get a broader audience.
I feel that your argument sort of falls apart when you said:
>they would have continued making technical action games because that's what was selling and was popular
Since they still were making technical action games.
A thing you have to realize is that even when DMC was the one paving the way for 3D action it still had a couple of clones.
They would never have tried to copy any sort of depth that could be gained from DMC.
It probably also doesn't help that even with God of War being the most popular, the whole GoW clones died out when they saw MORE money was to be had in CoD clones.
If you are going to blame people for aping what's popular then they are going for what's actually more popular.
I still wouldn't blame the original successful game for what went wrong.
DMC and Ninja Gaiden still kept on going with what they had until towards the end because of stupid businessmen making stupid decisions.
And it felt like their decisions was based entirely around something you could blame on anything besides a single franchise.
I'd argue that the real fault was thinkingwestern gamers were too stupid for their games
>>342036670
>t. casual faggot who hates challenging games.
then why have I played racing games all my life while the only challenging games you've ever played are DMC?
>>342036846
You have a weird view of action game with all that walking talking and deer hunting.
>>342036589
>"we"
>"everyone"
Fuck off already
>>342031678
>So when the game comes out and it turns out to be amazing
I know that you're very proud of this game you've spent the past few years working on, but no one here wants to by your product. Don't speak to me of Kratos and his wife's son ever again.
>>342036589
>wants more
>hasn't mastered goat game yet
you play them for the story right?
>>342030138
enough with this cuck shit. Not everything conforms to your weird white boy fetish,
>>342029496
>How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
Most of the people covering the industry only use it as a mouthpiece for their agenda and devs/publishers treat consumers like absolute, shit because they can and will get away with it and make millions anyways.
>>342036947
missed the parts where he killed dudes?
jesus
talk about being in denial
>>342029496
I thought I was the only one who notice this. Like, where the hell are all the God of War fans? You mean to tell me everyone is ok with this change? What the fuck.
The end is near.
Why doesn't Sony try something like a new IP?
They're just treading water on their old IPs, Uncharted 4, new Ratchet and Clank and such. How fucking boring.
>>342036841
(you)
>>342036917
>racing games
>not casual as all fuck
Nice retarded assumptions too.
http://www.spieltimes.com/news/god-wars-official-story-setting-revealed/
In terms of game play they've only really talked about how it's going to be more personal, the camera is going to be closer to Kratos, and even if you're not holding a weapon you can just punch fuckers.
>>342034729
>Change is good
No, it's not. Change isn't inherently bad or good. It entirely depends on what kind of change it is. Change has to have a purpose; if you're going to take an existing element and replace it, then the replacement needs to be just as effective as what was there originally. Change just for the sake of change is a retarded concept.
>>342029496
He looks like a shitty generic viking painted white
>>342036960
>Gets some of the biggest attention at E3
>Praise all round
>"d...do people genuinely not understand why everyone is pissed off?"
>"i...it is moving in the w...wrong direction"
You're a fucking moron aren't you?
>>342036550
The biggest shitposter of all is the one deluding himself into thinking GOW was ever good to fuel his shitposting.
gow gameplay was always a piece of fucking shit, from a mashfest that is its combat system and up to insufferable platforming sections, boring qte and puzzles
maybe they will manage to at least get basic mechanics right this time even if it ends up being a BoD/DS clone with an AI buddy
>>342037101
thats not how you use that meme
>>342037127
Who could be behind this post?
>>342029496
The gameplay looked god awful. It was really fucking bad.
I can't believe people said this looked good.
>>342029496
>cucks are excited for God of War: My Wife'S Son edition
shocking.
>>342036403
>Kratos, a man that was so assblasted over killing his family that he killed the REST of his family and destroyed the world out of pure angst is "genuinely cool"
>Dante, a man who watched his family die and forced to kill his brother twice, but instead of letting it ruin his life bounced back and lives as a carefree demon hunter with a chick on each arm "represents Japanese males' desire to be female"
>>342037079
No I didn't miss that.
But its only half an action game now.
There can't be a good action game with unskippable boring parts.
Action games like that are meant to be replayed.
>series is button mashy, cinematic, and focuses on gory finishers
>series is now button mashy, cinematic, and focuses on gory finishers but with a different camera angle and higher quality
NOOOOO GOD OF WAR IS RUINED. THIS WAS THE EPITOMY OF ACTION GAMES, ANOTHER AMAZING SERIES DEAD!
>>342037148
its basically just the character with a beard - they didn't really change much in that aspect.
>>342037467
IT'S A FUCKING INTRO
>>342037079
>g-god of war will be good
>see there was some action
>I- umm I mean YOU are in denial
>>342037429
>YOU MADE HIS DAUGHTER CRY
>>342029496
>The world is sane
>It's not autistic like me
>Waaah
Story>Gameplay>Atmosphere>Soundtrack=Graphics
>inb4 b8
No it's not
I don't care whether you retards reply to me or not.
This is my genuine opinion(read fact)
>>342036341
>turn cod into a horror game
>turn re into a action game
>turn "new re" into a PT/anmesia thingy
>turn silent hill into..wait what was this turned into?
>turn racing games into "football managers"
fuck developers nowdays
>>342037570
AND?
DO YOU REMEMBER THE FUCKING INTROS TO THE OTHER GOD OF WAR GAMES?
DO YOU REMEMBER HOW THEY SHOWED THEM OFF AT E3
FUCK YOU!
>>342037429
Yes anon a character with a simple powerful story is western and a character with an overly complex power fantasy story is japanese and lame
if you honestly don't get this i cannot help you get it because you sacrificed your masculinity to like japanese shit. you didn't have to, btw. i like anime
>>342037570
>IT'S A FUCKING INTRO
>it will magically change gameplay style after the first hour
>>342037570
The intros in the other GoW games were just as action-packed as the other parts of the game
>>342037643
>>>neogaf
Is /v/ upset that GoW changed or is /v/ upset people seem to like another Sony exclusive?
>>342029496
Kratos was never actually a good character. He was just a proxy to have an excuse to see brutal violence on-screen. Last of Us of War will flop. I just hope Sony doesn't continue to pull Ubi-Softs like this and just start modeling all of their franchises off of one of them that was successful.
if this is a tlou ripoff then why his wifes son isnt a girl? checkmate
I don't disagree, but you shouldn't be surprised. You have to understand that most people, particularly those in the media, relish the 10 hour story focused game. Their job is to play all these games and it can be exhausting when you're playing shit you don't want to play that lasts for 20-40 hours or more. All the more when you're not invested in game which is where story comes in because it is the easiest way to get people invested.
>>342037570
Yeah it is not like God of War is known for great action filled intros or anything.
Not that it will be just an intro though. It is an E3 presentation. It is meant to sell the game.
You are retarded on two different levels here.
>>342030509
okay pupper, the GAMING MEDIA does whatever is inconvenient now always, huh? The media that gives every call of duty 8/10 for satisfactory gameplay at best and almost nothing else. Sure, it's irregardless of complexity and you don't not sound like an idiot.
>>342037662
They turned cod into cod with space battles and they changed RE back into a pure horror game tho
>>342037374
I'm a jrpg fag and even I think that gameplay is the most important thing in game
Western games that push story usually have shit stories anyway. So do most Japanese games nowadays though but they don't push for it as much
>>342037643
I guess Tetris is one of the worst games ever made then.
>>342037643
Nice bait, but consider suicide. Stories are shit in video games and can't hold a candle to any other medium.
>>342037631
At least Asura was actually out to save his daughter and in the end the world was reborn or something?
I forget how exactly it went down but in GoW3 didn't Kratos basically fuck over a girl that was a standin for his dead daughter? I know she was Pandora but he definitely didn't end up helping her out.
WHY IS KRATOS ALIVE
HE WAS KILLED AT THE 3 ENDING
WTF WHY IS NOONE ASKING ABOUT THIS
>>342037817
They pretend its the former, but it's really the latter.
>>342037927
Got that right
>>342038051
Wasn't he saved at the end?
That blood trail thing?
>>342037817
I think both. No one was asking for an other God of War, the third one wrapped things up pretty well if you count that bull shit about hope, you weren't going to get any more brutal then punch Zues in the face til he was dead.
>>342038051
>He didn't watch til the end of the credits.
>>342036506
To be truly taken as an art form the the story should require the gameplay. Otherwise we are doing a comprised medium. The key to games as an artform is the element of true interaction between the work of the art and the viewer/player.
And besides, this thread is bait: the gameplay we saw was E3 shit. Let's see how that holds up to time.
>>342037990
I think he reconsiders using her to open the box because his guilt over his family pops up, but then she does it herself and he gets regretful over it.
>>342037643
>story>gameplay
I agree, I loved how tetris inspired me to move to russia and help build shells for military. was good time, altough I miss my parents sometimes. and my left foot.
We are looking at souls combat without a stamina bar, there is literally nothing wrong with that
And the camera angle people are so obsessed with isn't just the last of us, it's also the arkham angle.
There is no reason to think this will be anything other than a metroidvania style adventure game like the original arkham with puzzles and platforms along the way, and a dodge based combat system instead of a counter based one
>>342037817
Why would anyone be upset at a game with such shallow gameplay being an exclusive? If you really care about the shitty story you could just youtube it.
>>342031976
neato, you came up with another rule to sniff out people who think feminine penises are gay. This place is shit, it was shit, and it will be shit. That's why we're here.
>>342037817
As a sonyfag I am pissed about the former
But shitposters will claim the latter.
Because apparently now we have gone the full circle.
Years back you were not allowed to like a game that was popular and now as a reaction to that we can't dislike games that are popular anymore.
>>342037817
>1. pc port when
>2. well i didn't want it anyways
>3. it's shit lmao
>>342037978
It wasn't b8,but if you want to pretend like it was then I'll play along,thanks for the reply.
Shit taste faggot.
Other mediums don't factor into this
In games
Story>Gameplay
>>342038217
>There is no reason to think this will be anything other than a metroidvania style adventure game
Except you know the e3 presentation meant to be a representation of the whole game.
>>342038217
>There is no reason to think this will be anything other than a metroidvania style adventure game
It's been confirmed it will be linear.
>>342037694
>Kratos' story is "simple and powerful" while Dante's is an "overly complex power fantasy"
Explain to me your reasoning.
>God of War
>God of War II
>God of War III
>God of War
>>342038378
Name some games with a good story.
>>342038217
>arkham
>>342038378
Objectively wrong. The best selling games of all time are all gameplay driven and most have literally no story.
>>342036907
>It's true that is where the money was, but NG and DMC did not simplify controls.
But they did. DmC had a dedicated launch button, two evade buttons (???), no styles, and two different weapon "modes" to defeat color coded enemies. NG3 added SoB for a press X to awesome mode, only had one ninpo and one weapon the entire game, in addition to QTEs and numerous "cinematic" sections cutting away from the actual game time. Not all of their shittiness can be blamed on GoW though, because they are also individually quite bad for reasons that had nothing to do with simplification.
>>342038217
>lets just assume the e3 presentation is inexplicably the opposite of what the final game will be.
>that makes perfect sense.
>>342037894
RE was never pure horror.
Let's be honest the new GoW looks like Ryse right now. However the series never was very good so nothing of value was lost.
>>342037202
It is tho, imagine if they did this shit to a game like Devil May Cry. I never really got into God of War, but I'd be pissed if I did.
>>342038506
don't forget great ones like DmC: DMC
>>342031787
>best gameplay of the series
when will this stupid fucking meme die and stop pissing me off so much
>>342038540
>>342038570
>people fall for such obvious bait
Guys this years e3 had me really depressed, three were no japanese games and we didnt get DMC
BUT THEN MOTHERFUCKING NIER TO THE RESCUE OUTTA NOWHERE!
But that's just one game vs many not so interesting games.
We are losing this battle for gameplay to cinematic movies that let you play sometimes and everyone is ok with that.
Y'know I never thought I'd say this, but eventually people who like traditional video games will be left with nothing more than Call of Duty and then that game will become niche.
>>342037990Oh no, Azura was pretty much right the whole time. He felt something constantly controlling shit form behind the scenes and that's what really pissed him off the most. He couldn't stand letting his daughter live in a world that was part of some big bullshit plan. Also, they made his daughter cry.
>>342031453
It could also have something to do with the fact that developers aren't allowed to trash other developers in the industry. It's not a big industry and talking shit closes doors fast, very few developers risk it unless they have a ton of influence, with David Jaffe really doesn't. The rule of thumb is to always suck off everybody else as much as possible, or at least don't make a negative comment on it, because you never know when you're going to need a job from the producer of the game you were thinking of slamming.
Gaming journalists of course fling tons of shit because they're glorified blog posters. But if you look for it you'll see that very, very few negative statements come from actual developers.
>>342038636
I guess but I felt that the first few games leaned more towards the horror.
>>342038702
>Resident Evil 7:Biohazard
>Biohazard 7:Resident Evil
Bravo Capsule Computers
>>342038702
At least that was a reboot. My Wife's Son of War is an actual sequel to the first 3 yet shares the same exact title as the first. It's like when they did that The Thing prequel and called it the same exact thing as the original.
>because Kratos' character looks more interesting now
But does he?
>>342038702
Devil may Cry: Devil May Cry: Definitive Edition.
>>342038558
There we go, another good game using this camera angle
>>342038623
I don't see how that presentation contradicts anything I've asserted, you can even see alternate paths as they are walking
So far we have seen a small early combat encounter during a tutorial, and a miniboss
>>342038570
>Best selling games of all time
Title doesn't mean shit considering dogshit games sell gorillions anyway
>>342038540
You know a few already
Won't even bother replying to you retards anymore
>>342038506
Working in marketing must be so nice,
![screen-shot-2013-01-29-at-22.00.43[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/I1XWeDT.png "screen-shot-2013-01-29-at-22.00.43[1]")
>>342038907
everyone likes vikings
>>342038578
I don't really consider DmC:DMC:DE:HD to be like what DMC is.
DMC4SE also showed that there's still a market for technical action games.
I think the changes done for DmC and NG3 have a lot less to do with God of War and a lot more to do with trying to copy current trends.
God of War had not had a new release during DmC and NG3's times, and it felt like they were "westernizing" their games without realizing why people like their games in the first place.
It is why I don't blame God of War for this, but rather how they tried to reach out for people who don't play their games and never will.
I would blame the actual size of the western market over God of War specifically, since the three series had all coexisted among each other without any issues besides sales.
>>342038985
>Title doesn't mean shit considering dogshit games sell gorillions anyway
Like TLoU and other cinematic shit, I agree.
>>342038958
>So far we have seen a small early combat encounter during a tutorial, and a miniboss
Okay and do you remember the tutorials in the other games?
The beginning of any other god of war?
Do you remember how they presented the other games at e3?
>>342038861
It definitely did, but I wouldn't call it pure horror is all.
2 had the Custom Shotgun and Magnum and all those grenade rounds
3 had bullet mixing and Mercenaries.
Made it feel like the series was leaning more and more towards action with every entry.
>>342038886
I'm just laughing at the fact that its literally the same thing repeated twice.
>>342037374
>we'd all be playing Doom IX:Back to Hell again
I wouldn't mind
>>342039124
It's a tonal change, the other god of war games begin in the middle of battles already in progress, and they teach you how to play by throwing weak fodder enemies that will never post a threat to you even though you have to fight thousands of them throughout the game.
And there is nothino saying those spooks in the first fight are going to remain in such small numbers. I could easily see being in a room with 30 them at once
>All your favorite video games are changing, Tzeench's doing
>More intense, isolated acts of violence are taking place across the world. Pleasing Khrone
>Slaanesh has been cutting down amazing musical artist for her super band project.
>The Zika Virus is spreading faster then we realize. Nurgle's doing.
Is it signs of the end times friends? Is chaos taking over?
>>342039710
Zika Virus?
>>342039693
It is an e3 presentation nigga
It is meant to represent the final game
You are beyond retarded if you think the game will not have tons of interruptions like that?
>>342039237
It could have gone in a more horror direction, but Remake and Zero sold like shit (probably because they were on the GCN).
>>342032134
Tits Kratos was planned as an alternate skin for one of the PSP games but they axed it in favor of mime kratos and potato kratos and stupid horseshit like that.
>God of war
>series known for changing camera angles all the time
>people get mad when the new game has changed camera angles
What?
>>342040000
Remake sold alright but people were tired of the camera angles, they used to be made fun of a lot even though there's nothing really wrong with them.RE trying different ideas and none of them really panning out that well did more damage to the franchise than REmake and Zero not doing well did. You should see Outbreak sales
>>342038886
no doubt its a reboot but its the equivalent of naming this game GoW:GOW
>>342029793
>nu-males
>being /fit/
Haha funny joke anon.
>>342029496
>looks more interesting
literally just looks like a generic male
>>342037570
>GOW1-Fighting a Hydra after beating tons of minions to death
>GOW2-Fighting the colossus of Rhodes using god powers
>GOW3- Fighting off hordes of enemies while riding on a titan then fighting Poseidon
GOW4-You walk around to kill three very basic enemies and kill a boss that would be considered a mid-boss in earlier games
>>342039237
RE3 feels like a direct predecessor to PE2 honestly
I almost wish it had the same gameplay as PE2 because it at least had good action gameplay for a tank control game
>>342040431
Cool! You played the game???? Oh wait, no you haven't. It was a test demo for a game coming out next year, nigger. So don't act like you know shit. Dumb mother fucker.
>>342039804
Remember when you played Epidemic and set all your symptoms super low so it sneak it's way across the world before spending all your points into fatal symptoms? This is the coupe de grace of that.
It attacks the unborn children in a mother's womb, causing usually fatal birth defect. If not, you're stuck with a child who will never live a normal life. Brazil is it's hot spot, you know, the location of the next Olympics? Where thousands of people from around the world will spend several days exposed to cheap sex and the bugs that spread them .
Things are going to get bad real quick. Over 200 mothers in the USA have it.
>>342030257
Who says that we decide how it should and shouldn't be? I mostly agree with you, and I'm half expecting the kid to die brutally after the prologue and Kratos goes into a spiral of rage, after which we get our old gameplay back.
I didn't actually watch much of the gameplay shown, but that part where he throws his axe at that enemy then punches the shit out of the other one was cool. The fight following that was super shitty though... I hope it gets better.
>>342040738
This sounds like the backstory to a sci fi movie. Did they really not cancel the Olympics there?
>>342040571
So I would assume by how mad you are that apparently Sony and Santa Monica studios were so inept that they would show some random bad part of gameplay that wasn't the intro to millions in a attempt to interest them but suddenly pull a complete 180 and that game is completely different but failed to mention this to the press?
>>342029496
The story changes are fine.
The gameplay changes are an abomination. The gameplay mechanics needed to become MORE complex, not less. GoW was already simplistic enough, now it's on the level of a walking simulator. The story would be just fine if it wasn't being shoved to the front and center. The writing will be under a lot more scrutiny, because the developers are rubbing it in the player's face.
>WE INTERRUPT THIS GAMEPLAY TO BRING YOU SOME FORCED APPEALS TO EMOTION
>MUH CLICHE PARENT-CHILD STORY
>THIS WRITING IS SO DEEP
>PLEASE CARE ABOUT THESE CHARACTERS
In previous games, it was so over the top that you didn't have to take any of it seriously. It was just a fun romp. Now the devs are trying to be "grounded", "emotional", "real", etc. The story will almost certainly fall flat on its ass, and the gameplay will be too downgraded to compensate.
Shut the fuck up faggot. Gameplay has NEVER been a focus in any God of War game, the series is total garbage and always has been.
New game looks like a 100% improvement.
>>342040571
>this looks like shit
>I-it is just an early part of the game a tutorial
>god of war tutorials were never like
>you haven't played the game it could be the complete opposite of what they shown at e3 meant to be a representation of the final game
Okay faggot.
Then lets compare the one thing we have.
E3 presentations.
After all your backtracking lets look at how they presented the other GoW games at e3.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jIriYhKsFI
>>342041074
>backtracking
**backpedaling
>>342029496
The same reason why everyone here worships Kojima.
>>342040738
Fucking Brazil ruining everything
Seriously the worst fucking country
>>342032218
>SMT IV is the Dark Souls of Persona games
Of all the retarded shit in that article, this takes the cake.
>>342041074
http://youtubedoubler.com/iB1u
Comparison of the demos
>>342040973
I wish they did. Rio de Janeiro declared state of public calamity in financial administration.
Our entire government is corrupt to the core and they still want to go on with this bullshit Olympics.
Also, ISIS declared that they might attack Brazil.
>>342041924
people are defending this!?
>>342040973
> A world where no one can have a healthy child.
That is a fucking si-fi movie Jesus Christ.
>GoW had a shit story then
>new GoW has a new shit story now
>GoW had shit gameplay then
>new GoW has new shit gameplay now
>GoW had QTEs then
>new GoW has QTEs now
I think people are just looking for things to be angry about, this is just a shovelware franchise being turned into a different kind of shovelware. Nobody would be starting a shitstorm like this if Neptunia or Bubsy were turned into MOBAs or something, they'd just go on with their day. GoW is on the same level as those kinds of franchises, why even care?
>>342041924
Thank you anon.
That link explains my point a lot better than my long post.
I want to caption the Op pic with "what year is it?" But I'm too lazy
>>342029496
The fact this gameplay looks like the last of us worries me a lot. God of War was all about the excellent combat feel it had with a static camera angle to show the entire area you were going to fight.
The camera behind the protagonist's back is the reason fo why Castlevania lords of shadows 1 was so great and 2 was so shit.
>>342041924
>its only intro
lel
>>342040973
Nope. I honestly can't believe people would go to Brazil, Zika or not
>>342042268
>GoW had shit gameplay then
>new GoW has no gameplay now
ftfy
>>342041924
While I'm ok with the change to this new one, man I miss the first three games.
>>342029496
>no one mentions gameplay
But that's bullshit and completely untrue.
>>342029496
I've already seen an article by a guy that shortly mentions complaints about the gameplay, and he calls the people complaining "hardcore fans and other console's fanboys"
Nothing to harsh or petty i guess, but the choice of words was weird to me. Another DmC situation in the making? Probably not, since most of the GoW audience isn't "niche" enough to reject an even more casualized take on the series
God of war's gameplay was fine though, people's issues with the series anjd what needed to be improved is with the story
>>342030138
it's his actual son.
>>342043434
>GoW audience isn't "niche" enough to reject an even more casualized take on the series
god of war was hardcore on the higher difficulties
>>342029496
Idk but I'm playing Uncharted 4 right now and it's quite literally the worst fucking game I've played so far in 8th gen. I really don't know what the fuck is wrong with people. This 'game' fucking blows. I'm super pissed that Santa Monica have turned GOW into a shitty wannabe Naughty Dog movie game.
Naughty Dog is the 8th gen cancer now it seems. Last gen it was COD and what it did to FPS, this gen it's fucking Naughty Dog with their shitty movie games. Hell Naughty Dog movie game cancer is even fucking worse than COD. At least COD and COD clones were still fucking video games.
gameplay es no importante -_-
>>342043814
And most people didn't play those.
I like god of war but I have no delusions about the series being mainly for casuals.
I am pretty sure we are in a minority here not liking Last God of Us
>>342041924
It's fucking night and day.
God of War 3
>raw gameplay with occasional interruptions
"God of War"
>walking simulator with scripted segments and forced emotional appeals
I'm holding onto hope that the introduction is actually a ruse and it turns into a video game once you take control of the kid (or the kid dies and Kratos goes full nuclear), but I'm not holding my breath. The Last of Us was successful and critically acclaimed so they just copied it, they have zero integrity.
>>342043814
It probably was (it's been a while), i meant the series is mainstream enough it can afford losing the trust of the hardcore fans that played on those difficulties
>>342043816
jeez, these guys aren't even trying anymore
>movie
>'game' in quotes
>cancer
>worse than COD
if you cram too many buzzwords into your bait posts then nobody will bite, try harder next time
>>342029496
Roger Ebert and Steven Spielberg
>>342044165
Not that guy but
>I disagree with it = bait
Fuck off.
>>342044165
Look at this nu /v/ faggot. Just look at it.
>>342044298
Don't get mad anon, just take the criticism on board
you'll get better and then you'll be shitposting like a pro
>>342044494
>he thinks that was criticism
Okay, so you're retarded, good to know.
>>342044630
still needs work
why not go and start some 'now that the dust has settled...' threads, they seem more on your level
>>342044165
ur right bro fuck these trolls n shit. tlou is the bestest gaem of all time roflmfao :)
>>342044104
Ikr? The weirdest thing for me was that I was expecting that everybody else would be pissed at the GOW reveal. I check out its E3 vid and there were hardly any dislikes, most people liked it, with well over 200k views.
It's all for shit now anon. This industry is utterly retarded now. For some reason I genuinely believed 8th gen would get better than 7th but somehow it's even worse - a billion times worse.
Apparently GOW never had real fans or something 'cause I'm not seeing anybody pissed off about the new reveal. It's kinda shocking to me.
>>342044830
>I'm not seeing anybody pissed off about the new reveal. It's kinda shocking to me.
anecdotal, but I know several sony fanboys at my job that aren't impressed with the new direction.
>>342044830
>'cause I'm not seeing anybody pissed off about the new reveal.
Except every thread on /v/.
Or don't they count because "/v/ hates everything" meme?
over 9000 hours in paint
>hurr durr GoW was all about the QTEs
I don't get it
Sure, the series popularized the cinematic QTEs to some extent, but it was mostly finishing moves after you did your job as a player with the normal gameplay, and you could often avoid them and continue kill the enemy normally if you wanted
Call it easy, call it button smashing, whatever, you're probably right, but don't say it was all about the QTEs. Bayonetta too has QTEs to finish off bosses or to save yourself from certain enemy moves/situations, are we suddenly going to turn against that series too?
>>342044978
>Except every thread on /v/.
I've actually seen most of nu /v/ defending it. Take a look at this thread for example. Plenty of faggots actually like the new direction. Nu /v/ is gay af.
>>342029496
>How did we end up in a world where story is more important than fucking gameplay?
after Miyamoto angered a couple of autists (protip: Galaxy Storybookfags, Tanabe was the one killing Paper Mario)
this game doesn't have gameplay
>>342029496
>Legitimate BABY BITCHING about gameplay
>Gameplay
>BITCHING about gameplay from a DEMO
>BITCHING about the gameplay of a demo of probably the FIRST few minutes of the game.
>STRAIGHT BABY BITCHING about a DEMO of the FIRST FEW MINUTES of the FIRST FOOTAGE OF THE GAME ever SHOWN
I bet you have no friends.
How do people like you function in the world?
>>342045084
But he is actually the one cucking Thor.
That is clearly Ullr
Son of Sif (Thor's Wife) with an unknown (Kratos in this game)
>>342029496
When Sony took over the industry.
>spamming the cuck meme when kratos canon nutted in like 50 different goddesses
>>342032134
Bayonetta
Kamiya is a big fan of GoW3
>>342045426
I could say the same about you. How the fuck can you be so naive?
>>342045625
Bad ending
>>342045426
Game trailer come out on internet. Some people like. Some people love. Some people whatever. But baby-men, they no like. Baby-men no like at all. Baby-men hate, because game make baby-men mad. Baby-men create thread on video because, because creating thread means mad. Did baby-men mention they mad? They mad.
Baby-men liked old games that baby-men played when baby-men were babies, before internet was place where baby-men could put angry baby-thoughts. New game no have gameplay, have walking. Walking confuse baby-men. Walking not gameplay. Walking not gameplay at all!
Baby-men bang head against keyboard until form mad baby-words. Baby-men put mad baby-words on internet. Baby-men shriek into void.
>>342044830
Long time GoW fan which has Ghost of Sparta as my second favorite game because it tried to tell a decent story outside of "Gods are dicks. Go kill them" although that being the case for 3 made sense, as that happens directly after 2.
At the very least, I'm curious of how Kratos will work in Norse and what gods/beasts we'll be fighting; World Serpent's a must and so is Fafnir.
>>342034773
>It's just square simulator.
and DMC past 1 isn't a combo sponge sim?
I WANT TO KNOW ALL THOSE EASTER EGGS SONY SANTA MONICA IS TALKING ABOUT.
>>342036589
>whine about GoW rehashing the same shit/being a TLoU/Ryse rehash
>wants a DMC rehash
hypocrisy
feels like i'm in a Star Fox thread
>Crate-os used to be [SCOWL HARDER] man
>No one takes it seriously
>Gameplay was literally button mashing and QTEs
>Thinking anything can possibly be worse than old GoW
At least Kratos is going to have an actual character arc now.
>>342046826
>>wants a DMC rehash
I wanted it to move more into that direction.
I guess that chart was really confusing
>>342046509
I wish one of the easter eggs was the old style of gameplay, because what they've changed it to fucking sucks.
>>342045426
>You're just a loser!
Not an argument.
I never liked god of war very much so I'm happy it's taking a new direction with the objectively better combat.
also I don't know anything about norse mythology so I'm excited to have new stories told to me.
really interesting when you think about how american public schools spend 2 years teaching students about hellenism. I grew up in a catholic house and I know more about ancient greek stories and characters than I do about christian ones.
brb, I'm gonna start worshiping Poseidon
>>342046826
Rehash of a good game > rehash of mediocre/shit games
its because gameplay has by and large remained stagnant in most game genres for a very long time. we've been conditioned not to expect new and interesting mechanics because that's not the norm. instead, games within the same genre differentiate themselves by their settings, plots, and characters.
i can guarantee you that the new gow's gameplay will be the same as the old one with some slight twist. nothing too innovative. how they'll treat kratos' character is honestly the more interesting part of the game in my opinion, because i know what to expect from gow gameplay and it's unlikely to change given the precedent of most of these genres having similar mechanics.
>>342047591
>objectively better combat.
Stop triggering me.
I concur. Characters and story come dead last in importance in a videogame.
>>342047591
>objectively better combat
Are you blind? How is it in any way better?
>>342047610
>my shit is better than your shit
>>342047671
>because i know what to expect from gow gameplay and it's unlikely to change given the precedent of most of these genres having similar mechanics.
So you haven't watched the e3 presentation and you don't believe the dorito pope?
Played GoW 1-3 a year or so ago. Games were pretty average, 6/10 or so. Kratos is also an unlikable cunt.
I'll give the new game a chance though because they're changing up the gameplay. If they were just making another one like the old ones, I'd pass because those games weren't great.
I've been playing the 3 God of Wars over the past week as a result of the announcement since you can get them for like $5 in all now.
Yeah, I don't see why anybody would care about gameplay. It's so bizarrely imprecise, like if you stuck a musou character in Ninja Gaiden or DMC, and anything that requires some semblance of precision is soft-locked anyway, like the errant platforming segments.
>>342047610
>it's okay when /v/eoGAF wants rehashes they want
>>342047374
Im not trying to argue anything friend.
Just stating obvious facts.
>>342047794
>everything is shit
>I am a teenager on the internet.
>>342047794
Yes and?
>>342047946
i think you should visit this place sometimes:
http://scat.booru.org/index.php?page=post&s=list
>>342046509
there is a big ass snek
a spooky phantom hiding behind a tree in the distance
a valkyrie flying through the air
runes glow when ever magic is used
totally not thor has runes tattooed up the arm he uses to draw his bow but hes facing the other direction so we can't see if his glow when he shoots the lightning bolt
>>342047852
>>342047884
/v/ has the worst taste
>GoW was never good
>so it going even more away from decent action games is a good idea
>actually defending modern walk-and-talk cutscene bullshit
>>342047794
>I don't have an argument so I'll just generalize as much as possible!
>reactionimage.jpg
There's something called nuance you fucking idiot.
GoW was never perfect but it was sure as hell better than what they're showing us now. What the series needed was more depth/complexity, not to be turned into a walking simulator.
>>342047910
>pot calling kettle black
New combat system could be more fun if they add a bit more complexity. The series needed a refresh after Ascension, but we just got to wait and see if this direction was for the best. We haven't seen much gameplay at all, so anyone saying they love it or hate it is retarded until we get more information on the game.
>>342030209
Motherfucker David Jaffe is still alive, he can see it
>>342048109
Hermes boots in the shed/cabin.
>>342048186
I think God of War was okay.
Even decent at higher difficulties sometimes
This new looks worse
I am not an apathetic teenager saying this is shit that is shit everything is shit.
>>342048132
The gameplay was mediocre. They're changing it. Whether it will be good or bad remains to be seen, I'm not going to immediately dismiss it because they're at least trying something new.
>>342048374
>something new
So you have missed all games this fucking gen?
walking and talking with very little gameplay interspersed is new?
>>342047705
>>342047695
the other games are a button mash fest with largely meaningless combos that do little more than show off neat animations. In reality you can just stand there and mash square square triangle the whole way through the game and hold down the block button. It isn't challenging, it's mindless busy work until you can get to the next puzzle.
this new combat is much more tactical, you actually have to get up close so you are really in danger of getting hit, and actually comes across as a fight and not just swinging a rope around and autokilling everything in the room.
>>342048506
I'm talking about the combat you sperg. It's completely different from the past GoW games, which were mediocre, so I'll give the series a new chance.
As for the structure, it's clearly inspired by Last of Us which has plenty of combat, so I'm not worried.
So do you get to play as his wife's son?
or is it just an escort game?
>>342048163
>subjective shit
>argument
yeah mmmm
begging for that DMC/NGB cock after all the shit they've done to you for you favorite series
basically like being a smash rosterfag being told to pick a unlikely substitute roster choice than the choice you want and the guy you're arguing with doesn't like.
Have a look at the other highly regarded games of Sony's E3
>David Cage game
>Kojima's movie
>Cinematic Farcry Primal
They know Sony makes movies, not games.
>>342048780
Do you actually like hack and slash or action games in general?
>>342048780
So why does it have to be god of war?
>>342048815
>this gibberish of a post
Has anyone really been far as decided to use even go want to do look more like?
>>342037890
wow dude really
>>342048862
Yeah, I love the DMC games, God Hand, MGR, etc.
GoW is mediocre in comparison.
>>342048975
So they can cash in on the name.
>>342048784
nigga, it's his son
>the game is about kratos teaching his son to be a god
>since kratos is half god his son is one quarter god and very resiliant
that's straight from the weird hobo looking guys mouth
and also the son is an AI companion you command as a support character, you play as kratos and order the son around to do things during fights.
>>342049075
So you don't mind it moving further away from dmc?
God of War was like the biggest mainstream AAA action game.
And that is now turning into a very slow very un-arcady story focused boring ass walking simulator.
And you people wonder why there is no new DMC5
Nobody wants this shit. Even the people like you who claim they like action are actively campaigning against the genre.
>>342030138
>implying the critics didn't already love the other god of war games
>>342044104
>I'm holding onto hope that the introduction is actually a ruse and it turns into a video game once you take control of the kid
I think that will be the case. Notice when the kid finds the tracks it says "Knowledge Gained, Tracking", and after he shoots the deer "Knowledge Gained: Archery"/
>>342049001
>ad hominem
just say you can't argue anymore
>>342049249
not helping either
>>342048537
The new combat looks simplistic, slow, and easy. I don't know how you could call that "tactical". There are fewer enemies and they don't put up a fight, and the boss enemy has fewer and slower attacks than even the basic enemies in older games.
The last fading hope is that the introduction is nothing like the full game. But considering how much they're focusing on "character development" this time, I'm not holding my breath.
>>342029496
Because the only thing people do, even here, is bitch about framerates, resolutions, blur, chromatic abberation, girls that aren't sexy enough, textures that aren't detailed enough, and models that don't have individual toes.
In any case, to casuals, the characters, premise, and art have always been the initial point of interest. What you actually do in the game is secondary.
>>342049249
>/pol/bait
>>342049286
I'm fine with it moving away from old GoW. I don't care which direction it goes in, since I don't care for the series. If it turns out any good, I'll play it.
>>342049389
Bro, read your post again. It's gibberish. Why you even thought to bring up Smash Bros is beyond me. You've probably spent way too much time shitposting.
>>342049530
Well don't complain if the next Devil May Cry is also a walking simulator.
>>342049483
This.
And being easier and simpler makes it easier on the David Cage/Sony crowd.
Cinematic Games are Sony's bread and butter
>>342049564
>Bro, read your post again. It's gibberish.
how?
>Why you even thought to bring up Smash Bros is beyond me.
simple, i've made a comparison.
just like the last comparison i've made about how people just want their rehashes on Star Fox. (i.e. Sin & Punishment faggots)
>>342049639
I would complain, because DMC is a good series(barring 2 and DmC). GoW isn't a good series, so any change is fine if it can lead it to becoming one.
>>342049428
slow is not a bad thing, and it was probably an easy encounter because it's the first one. It wouldn't be so easy with more of those guys on the screen. It doesn't seem any easier than fighting against the regular basic enemies in any of the other games, you are just up closer now so you're more aware of it.
the troll wasn't a boss though, they are a basic enemy type you will be coming across.
>>342049817
I can only conclude that English is not your first language, or you've spent so much time shitposting that the only way you can communicate is through bringing up other examples of shitposting.
>>342049842
>can lead it to becoming one
>easier and simpler
>focusing on story over gameplay
I don't think this will fix GoW...
ODINNN!!!! DON'T EVER TRY TO KILL ME OR MY WIFE'S SON EVER AGAIN
>>342049842
Why can only god of war be a good the last of us
Devil May cry could also be a good the last of us.
>taking an established IP and changing the gameplay so it's not the same tired shit we've done for more than 3 games
>/v/ calls it a bad thing
Maybe it will be bad, but I'd rather they take a chance and switch it up than release God of War 3 + 1.
>>342049984
>and he's still going on with his Ad Hominem fallacy
>>342050045
>so it's not the same tired shit we've done for more than 3 game
>change it to the tired shit that is in every other game right now
You are the cancer of the video game audience.
>>342049993
We've seen 5 minutes of gameplay. I'm not going to jump to conclusions based on something made to wow idiots at E3.
>>342050031
Capcom already tried to westernize DMC and it failed miserably. They won't do it again anytime soon.
>>342050157
>Give me the same game over and over again forever
The cancer is you, Sparky.
>>342050213
So you think after hooking the David Cage audience they'll add gameplay that would turn them off?
Why?
>>342050213
>We've seen 5 minutes of gameplay.
that are meant to represent the final product
If you are not fine comparing the final games with just e3 just compare the e3 presentation then.
http://youtubedoubler.com/iB1u
We did go through this shit.
>>342050157
>WAAAAH MUH DMC REHASH
yeah, they're cancer for wanting something they prefer
you're no better than a typical smashbrat circlejerking about rosters.
>>342050345
Wait do you think I am the guy asking for every game to be the last of us? Did you misquote?
>>342050128
Whining about fallacies only works when you had an argument to begin with. I made my argument, you never made an argument back. You just posted reactionimage.jpg, and made some retarded nonsensical comparisons to other forms of shitposting (like Smash Bros roster arguments, jesus fuck you must have spent a lot of time in those threads if that's the first thing that springs to your mind).
I can only focus on your character because that's all you have.
>>342050368
There is no David Cage audience, lmao
>>342050045
It's still the same tired shit, only instead of borrowing from sixth gen they're borrowing from seventh/eighth gen. It's not even remotely innovative.
>>342050157
here are the facts,
this game is not preventing you from getting another god of war game the way you wanted it
the series ended, the story had closure, it's over. There was never going to be another one
this is a new direction, a soft reboot of a franchise. This could have been it's own IP, but why make a new IP when you have a built in audience for one you are never going to otherwise revisit?
sony originals unlike nintendo and microsoft puts games to bed, the franchise ends and they make new stuff. This is basically a new franchise
>>342050384
You are the cancer for wanting other series to be like the series that were a completely different genre.
I am not asking for TLoU 2 to be an arcady action game.
You are asking for God of War to be the same tired shit every game is now.
>>342050481
>Whining about fallacies only works when you had an argument to begin with.
subjectivity isn't an argument, bro.
>>342050567
The PlayStation/David Cage audience.
>>342050580
>sony originals unlike nintendo and microsoft puts games to bed, the franchise ends and they make new stuff
That is literally the opposite of what is happening here.
They literally just copied the Mad Max game.
>>342050621
You know this is the video games board right? Not the science board? What exactly is objective about anything you've said?
I've given you too many (You)s, I'm done.
>>342035524
What
>>342030138
Mememagic was already theorised to be real when baneposting crashed a plane.
I think it spawns another question: was it mememagic or became baneposting a sentient being through meme magic
>>342050582
>You are the cancer for wanting other series to be like the series that were a completely different genre.
>You are asking for God of War to be the same tired shit every game is now.
don't have to contradict yourself m80.
>>342050690
it's a soft reboot of a dead IP, not a rehash.
I honestly don't know why you would even want a new one the other way, you can just go back and play the other ones again since they are all the same.
>>342051073
God of war was not a story focused walking simulator.
>>342043970
Who are you to say?
Do you have any infographs with charts in impact font to show how many casuals are on earth?
>>342029496
In order to comment about gameplay, they would have to see some first
>>342049343
Most critics loved it, but there was always a subset that liked to complain that it was too mindless/violent/juvenile/misogynistic/etc. This new direction is pretty much directly pandering to them.
>>342051093
>I honestly don't know why you would even want a new one the other way, you can just go back and play the other ones again since they are all the same.
That is not the point here.
I liked god of war. I wanted it to evolve as an action game. I consider this a huge step down. And if you genuinely like action I do not understand how you couldn't.
I get you never liked god of war. That is cool and all. But what about this presentation makes you think it will be better?
It looks so much worse.
>>342029496
>we want the non gamer audience
http://www.gamasutra.com/view/news/224400/Gamers_dont_have_to_be_your_audience_Gamers_are_over.php
>>342051056
I know we call it meme magic, but what if it's not magic but psyonic influence.
People have often considered the existence of psychic abilities, what if they are right? but the brain waves of a single mind are not powerful enough to kinetically influence reality. But now with the advent of the internet we live in a collective consciousness of information. Instead of a small few we now have millions all simultaneously looking at something "trending" and focusing their thoughts on it. It's giving us the required juice so to speak to influence the world around us in ways other than imposing our physical bodies upon it.
>>342044830
GOW3 had a satisfying enough ending. Any fans left were blown the fuck out by the time that fiasco with the (i think) vita game happened. Something about kratos hitting a girl.
>>342051093
If that was the case, why didn't they just make it a completely new IP? Or maybe a spiritual successor?
Instead they felt the need to keep the name and shove Kratos in, because they want the money that comes from a brand name without actually being faithful to that brand.
>>342050973
>What exactly is objective about anything you've said?
my opinion = good
your opinion = bad
that's being subjective. the world doesn't revolve around you m8.
>I've given you too many (You)s, I'm done.
i never asked for them but thank anyway, friendo.
now go bitch in the corner while at it.
>>342051150
God of War is not DMC.
>>342051673
It was at least in the ballpark of decent action game.
>>342051367
it will be the same thing, you will still get big monsters and set pieces to play with, but with less button mashing the same canon fodder enemies to fight over and over again.
and aside from that I never found the fighting in god of war to be satisfying, it had no weight to it at all. This new way is putting you up close to the action instead of 30 feet above it
>>342048858
Experiences.
They're called Experiences, pleb.
Buy VR.
>>342051726
>still being subjective
>>342051748
>presentation doesn't show that
>dorito pople who played the game said it is different
So I am just supposed to ignore everything here and listen to you?
>>342051748
>with less button mashing the same canon fodder enemies to fight over and over again
How do you know that?
>>342051810
and he's still going with is Ad hominem fallacy. is this how DMC fans act?
go on now, anon. thread's over.
>>342050462
No, just responding to the assertion that changing gameplay styles of a series isn't always a bad thing.
It's also fucking retarded that people are claiming GoW is going to be a TLoU clone. It really, really isn't. The relationship between a parent-figure and a child-figure is an age old story arch. If the ONLY story you can think of that's like that is TLoU, you need to crack a fucking book once in a while.
>>342051980
http://www.rong-chang.com/
>>342051467
You mean SMT is right?
>>342030138
>step father
>son's skin is different from Kratos'
Kratos confirmed for biggesy cuck in gaming history
>>342051907
the controls are definitely different, the guy even said so. It's going to be deeper controls I'm sure
>>342052021
It is not the father son thing
It is the walk-and-talk unskippable modern cutscene that ruins replays
You can't have a good action game about perfecting gameplay and ranking up big combos with this bullshit.
ITT:
>waaaah stop rehashing GoW!
>waaaah stop rehashing TLoU!
>baaaaw, why didn't they rehash DMC??
>>342048132
That's such a retarded strawman I'm actually going to reply.
OP was talking about how nobody was writing about the significant gameplay change because the gameplay was nothing to write home about because all anybody cares about is cinematic experiences.
>>342052116
>You mean SMT is right?
maybe not yet, but if we all consider it then reality will begin to reflect it and make it so
thats' the nature of these forces at work, nothing is anything until its something, it isn't until it is
>>342052070
leave now, anon.
>>342050576
Perhaps not, but perhaps it will be different enough to be entertaining.
The problem is retards thinking they know enough about the game already to form an opinion on it.
I'm almost sure that Kratos will be one of the reasons Ragnarök begins. Since he has a horn with him (Gjallarhorn) that's covered in blood, he probably has already killed Heimdallr. Then he blows the horn, and a great battle between Aesir and their enemies. Jormungandr is clearly present, so is probably Fenrir.
Also I believe that the mother is Freyja, being a slut that she is. She has a cloak that can turn her into a bird. In the video there's a moment when Kratos hears a sound and looks around, then we can see birds flying in distance. Also the floating ghost could be her too. Maybe she isn't dead, just ethereal/went back to Asgard or smthn.
>>342052363
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YMSrnc4qiXA&list=PLzPu2cDOZW8gVZk_TMSPCgIVdhsiknjEe
>>342052549
leave now, anon.
>>342052435
We are using what information we got so far about the game and what they have shown.
now I am not saying I can't possibly be wrong. Maybe the game makes a complete 180
But your assumptions (if you are assuming it will be good) are relying on actively IGNORING what they have shown and hoping the presentation that was meant to be representative actually isn't
Do you get what I am saying?
>>342048132
>GoW was never good because it wasn't DMC
are DMC fans the worst? at least railshooter fans understand both Star Fox 64 and S&P are different type of beasts.
>>342052246
If the game is all walk'n'talk cut scenes, I would agree. That would be fucking stupid.
The fact that there were some in what is clearly an opening sequence, doesn't mean they'll be spammed throughout the game. In fact, since it's open world, that's less likely to be the case.
The devs have stated that the demo they showed was story-heavy on purpose just to show what the reboot is about, storywise.
>>342053042
Would you honestly say DMC is a worse action game than god of war?
>>342052693
leave now, anon.
oh, and i don't speak in hijab.
>>342052620
I get what you're saying, but also this
>>342053146
>>342053146
>If the game is all walk'n'talk cut scenes, I would agree
It is going to have a lot of those.
If you think an e3 presentation is not meant to be representative of the final game you are being really stupid
>The fact that there were some in what is clearly an opening sequence
And fucking AGAIN god of war used to have really big opening sequences.
In fact I actually think this will not be the opening sequence and is a little further on.
>>342053156
kamiya had the guts saying he prefers GoW3 and not NGB for honest reasons.
you're gonna shoot him up for that?
>>342053381
leave now, anon.
>>342053465
No.
I like God of War 3.
If we going by kamiya what do you think he would say about this modern god of war as an action game?
>>342053321
So you've assumed the worst and I've assumed... well, not the best, but somewhere closer to good than you have.
I've noted what I've seen in the trailer and what the devs had said about it and how these things informed my opinion. You just disagreed and called me a name.
Seems like you're just shitting on something and being a contrarian like most /v/-tards.
Hoh well.
>>342053585
more likely he'll pass it off as a new style for GoW to establish for the time being
>>342053681
leave now, anon.
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