Post favourite Fire Emblem game.
sm4sh
Advance Wars 1.
Genealogy of the Holy War
Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars.
Literally the best one.
FE7
At least Awakening and Fates have distracted the shitposters enough to where people don't bother to shit on the game anymore, but on the other hand that was all the attention the game ever got.
>>342029631
Literally the best one
>>342029238
This was my first one
I don't understand the hate
>>342029238
>>342029631
"I have played only a single FE game" - You
>>342029728
based
>>342030296
It's straight up boring. Nothing interesting happens in the story or gameplay. On top of that it looks bad.
Ogre Battle
What does it say about me if I can't pick a favorite?
>>342031029
It says that you don't like any of the games enough to single out one of them as the best one
>>342031078
But Fire Emblem's the only franchise I love.
>>342031197
Prove it anon. Only by telling us which single game is your most favorite can you prove it to yourself that you actually love video games. You do love video games, anon?
>>342029728
my nigga
>>342029718
easier than the new pokemon games desu
why'd they remove all the difficulty?
>>342030296
OP here, played, in order, FE 7, Radiant Dawn, then Shadow Dragon, Awakening, FE Sacred stones, then Fates. Shadow Dragon is solely my favourite because I'm an originalfag.
>>342029728
I've never understood the love for FE7. It's not even the best game set in Elibe, which is already probably the least interesting world that isn't Fates'. 5/6 are more challenging, 4/9 have better writing, 10 has more interesting gameplay, and 13 has more content/features. The only thing I can really say about it is that it's relatively balanced, but that doesn't matter a whole lot if there's nobody I care about enough to want to use.
At least I can remember 11 for being barebones. I have a hard time remembering anything noteworthy about 7, besides it being the first. I feel like it would've been much better if they didn't try to make it a prequel to 6.
>>342031339
Don't act ridiculous, man. You don't suddenly stop being a gamer if you can't pick a monolith.
>>342031197
It's one of the franchises I like the most but I have only played 6,7,8,12, 13 and 14 at the momentand several romhacks from /feg/.
Sometimes I wonder if I should replay the ones I missed out on but they are so outdated that I get turned off.
>>342030709
>talking shit while posting the worst FE from 1 - 10
>>342031712
play 9 and 10 right now you fucker
>>342029718
>train Ike
>gg ez
No anon. This is the worst FE game.
>>342031887
Go away langston, Orson is shit
>>342029238
You gonna trigger some FE7 fans.
>>342031409
>why'd they remove all the difficulty?
Americans can't handle challenging games so Treehouse kindly removed it.
It's also the culmination of the series being gradually casualized between 6 (which removed Thraciashit and added support conversations), 7 (which devoted a third of the game to a tutorial), 8 (which enabled grinding and gave you Seth), and 9 itself. 10-11 tried to tell them to fuck off, but since that didn't help sales, they embraced them with 12 onward. ...which are still harder than 9, at least on Classic.
>>342032065
>actually training Ike
>when Marcia or Boyd or Jill or Nephenee or Kieran or Soren or Oscar or literally anyone but Rhys, Rolf, and Mist make the game even more trivial
>>342031635
Your post is probably bait, but it's still a decent jumping-off point for me making a rant.
FE7's pretty much just best known for being the standard of a majority of non-Smash, non-FE13 audiences' impression of what to expect from FE. It's got a lot of problems for people to start petty squabbles and favoritism wars with (As evidenced by the existence of this article: http://serenesforest.net/forums/index.php?showtopic=27311), but overall it's still a rigid title, even if it doesn't have anything that makes you want to call it your favorite. The bickering really just tends to center between FE4 and FE9 as "best game" among the FESS veterans, with occasional nods to FE5 as the Majora's Mask of the franchise.
>>342032007
PoR looks better than I imagined. Maybe I'm actually going to play it after I finish FEF.
What about RD? I didn't really see a lot of good opinions about it.
>>342031635
FE7 is loved because hector is a meme lord (i love him but the amount of dicksucking he gets is ridiculous) and lyndis waifuposters, along with the fact that many people play 7 as their first and think its the standard the series should be held to
i can understand it being a prequel though. 7 was the first game in the US and having it be tied to Roy who appeared in melee would get people interested, as well as ditching any subtitles or sequel associations by making it a prequel
>>342031635
And 8 is more polished, has better writing, and more interesting character/class progression. 8 is arguably harder than 7 because there's less exp available, though both are easy as shit so who cares.
Out of 8, Fates, and Awakening I liked Awakening the most.
>>342030220
Have you only played Awakening and Fates?
>>342029238
Playing through Fates, I'm appaled by how horrible the writing is. Even Shadow Dragon, with its barebones story with good writing manages to make a more enjoyable experience.
Fuck modern Fire Emblem.
>>342032561
Shadow Dragon has arguably the best FE writing. Actually scratch arguably. It definitely does. Not saying much though.
>>342032447
>8 is arguably harder than 7 because there's less exp available
What? Sacred Stones not only has two different infinitely playable areas, but constantly spawning enemies on a world map.
>>342032719
>Not saying much though.
What?
>>342032318
>calls absolutely normal post bait
>immediately admits that people like it because literally babby's first
>calls a thorough analysis of the plot which is pretty reasonable if not flat out right "petty squabbles"
wew lad
post favorite classes that IS forgot about
>>342032363
Por is my favorite fire emblem, radiant dawn is shit and isn't fun to play(it may be fun on emulators but I actually own it)
>>342032813
You are supposed to avoid using those.
>>342032447
>less xp available
>in the fire emblem that introduced unlimited amounts of xp.
Lol k
>>342032959
Why is magic so shit in Fates? Why are they trying to remove dark magic? I don't understand.
Also rip Swordmaster. I guess Lobster Samurai is also cool but it's not quite the same.
>>342032363
RD is surprisingly underrated IMO. Probably the best and most challenging gameplay from 6 - 14, and the plot, while silly at times, is still engaging and fun. The ability to mix and match special skills is great and opens up fun combos. Definitely recommend.
>>342032990
What's wrong with it? Beside controls I guess cause that's all I can really think of from mentioning emulators
>>342032898
>a thorough analysis of the plot which is pretty reasonable if not flat out right
While Banzai does bring up good points all throughout, it's all interspersed throughout a bunch of petty nitpicks and a really condescending tone. It's the same problem with a lot of people that have tried and failed to become/one-up Thatguywiththeglasses-style reviewers.
>>342029238
I can't pick. I love the art style, depth of plot, and mature tone of Radiant Dawn, the difficulty, map design, base building, unbreakable weapons, and Selena of Conquest, and Robin from Awakening is far and away my favorite protagonist. I wish I could fuse them all into a single game.
>>342033501
I imagine you'll be able to speed up the 2 minute long enemy phases. There's more like a majority of the game being piss easy and a drudge to playthrough but enemy phases are my largest problem with it.
>>342033153
I just want tome variety and magic triangles again.
Also, what the fuck was Abomination-2 doing, ripping out weapon sprites? Were they trying to create an artificial flaw for FE15 to "improve upon" and garner better reviews from dumbasses?
>>342033121
>arguably harder
>in the series with unlimited exp
Bait caught me too lad
>>342029238
FE4.
the one with the blue haired chick, 7?
for GBA. my first FE too, but none really compare imo.
>>342033121
What kind of universe have you been living in where you assume you're supposed to AVOID monster grinding? That's like saying you're supposed to avoid fighting non-mandatory Pokemon Trainers.
Maybe it's because it was my first FE, but I love pic related
>>342033853
>7
>not easier than a game with unlimited exp
git gud
>>342033815
Long enemy phases have always been a problem though
>>342032719
SD has pretty good writing, despite some really corny lines. PoR has the best writing in the series by far, though.
>>342033815
You can do that in the game already by holding the A button. But I'm not sure if you have the ability to do that in your first playthrough.
Forever best.
>>342029238
Which snes FEs are the best?
>>342034129
How is that a problem?
>>342034236
4 is arguably the best SRPG ever made.
I just bought a 3ds, what fire emblems should I get?Conquest or Birthright?
>>342032990
>radiant dawn is shit and isn't fun to play
Your opinion is garbage. RD has some of the best map designs of the series and is a genuine challenge.
>>342034393
Why did you buy a 3DS?
>>342034236
4 in my opinion, but I like the grand scale. Yeah there was some pointless turns but overall it's worth it.
>>342034415
RD has really really bad character availability. It's really annoying.
>>342032857
FE typically has shitty writting, no one is ever going to cite FE as a source of well thought out and interesting writing.
>>342034172
>>342033815
If you're talking about the attack animations then you can just outright turn them off and/or switch to sprite animations.
>>342032990
>radiant dawn is shit and isn't fun to play
>>342034456
It was cheap as hell, why not?
>>342034456
Not him but just for monhun. Are the 3ds FE games worth buying? The kind of look shitty if I'm being honest. The stack two units on top of each other thing might be the dumbest change to the formula in the whole series.
>>342034129
They're typically restricted to the last few levels, and never to the extent of radiant dawn
>>342034496
Only because nobody's played it. Nobody seems to care about video game writing unless it's a Bioware game.
Again, my pic still stands.
>>342034007
It has some strong points, namely some of the boss convos (notably Joshua and Caellach)
>>342032067
He did it for her, anon... he did it for love...
>>342034569
Conquest is good but will whoop your ass if you aren't used to strategy games
>>342034415
Ah yes, parking haar or the many other op units to mop up the underleveled shitters is a great challenge. It always makes me wonder why people hate the dawn brigade when their chapters are the only fun ones in the game
>>342034602
Enemy phase isn't the problem in RD. It's the allies.
>>342034393
Birthright if you like grinding and GLORIOUS NIPPON, Conquest if you like more varied missions but a stricter play route.
If you want both, buy one physical version and you can get a digital version of the other for 1/2 price. Same with the Revelations route.
>>342034742
I've beaten the majority of FE games, most of them aren't too tough, but I do restart if I lose units.
>>342034778
A game doesn't have to be hard to be good.
>>342029718
This is the newest Ive played and I fucking loved it. Its been a while, but I fondly remember that 4 part level in the dukes woods. One of the best levels in the franchise. Also the black knight was menacing as fuck. That and custom weapons, fuck yeah. The newer ones worth playing?
>>342034904
When it's insultingly easy with no plot to fall back on it kinda does. Maybe hard makes the game hard but removing gameplay elements and features isn't something I want to do.
>>342034351
I hope you are joking because fuck goddammit, the gameplay was atrocious, FE4 is the awakening of the older games
>>342035008
Not really. FE12 is worth a pickup, but nothing after PoR compares at all to it.
>>342035026
>insultingly easy with no plot to fall back on
>FE10
Everyone here is joking, right? We all really know that 5 is the best.
>>342035026
Calling RD "insultingly easy" is just plain wrong. Levels with the Greil Mercenaries are easy, but that's it.
>>342035135
Nice bait.
>>342034860
Conquest was pretty damn hard
>>342035176
Thats.. thats really disappointing
>>342035351
Huge maps with some cherrypicked OP units because of bloodlines where you completely disregard actual gameplay and rush towards the castle to seize. You fags complain about Awakening when 4 did it worse.
Anyone else feel like 8's maps were too chokey and boring as fuck?
Granted I haven't played 8 in a year, but compared to 7's maps which at least had a room for units to not turtle at the front lines, 8's maps look much more small, plain, and boring
>>342035560
Welcome to the modern age of video games, where every single game that isn't GTA is absolute shit.
>>342035487
Is it good though? Awakening looked pretty bad when I looked up some gameplay.
>>342035337
The first moment you control the Crimean knights is when I got bored as fuck. You say it's only with the gm but the gk and gm trivialize the game and you control them for a majority of the game.
>>342035182
Sorry, good plot. My mistake
>>342033153
you kidding? I can literally have a team full of swordmasters and complete the game easily because of their bonus on avoid, skill and criticals.Swordmaster Crimson/Scarlet was the best in birthright
>>342035618
I don't think that map can actually be called "chokey".
>>342035487
Not really. There were a handful of hard chapters like 10, 18 and Endgame, but that's really it.
>>342029238
FE8
it's the only one i've ever beaten and eirika was my waifu when i was younger
>>342035670
It's not insultingly easy.
>>342035635
I would gladly recommend it if you enjoy tactical RPGs and/or have actual experience with them. If you are just getting started with tactial RPGs, play birthright before playing conquest. Both path converge into a final game, revelations.
>>342035635
No. FE14 is the farthest thing from good.
>>342036051
Alright, I'll see if I can get them on sale.
>>342035892
I had to do endgame a few times before succeding it.
>>342035756
You literally rush through a one-two unit wide area the entire time
12 units on this fucking map is dreadful
>>342032990
Yes it is. Worst plot, worst characters, worst units, worst game play.
Fuck everyone else, they're probably just a bunch of babies who think horrid game design is a "challenge" and is automatically good.
>>342035943
Probably not the best choice of words, especially when Ashera is the best final boss in the series despite being bullshit and unfair for blind/new players, but it is incredibly easy once you get past the initial dawn brigade chapters
>>342036185
That just makes it winding, not chokey.
>>342029718
Those poor nigger beast people.
>>342035618
I remember allot of snake movement through levels, this seems like one of those. Basically single filing infantry forward, rescuing them with cavalry and flanking with airbornes
4, 5, 9 and 10 I had the most fun with, which is how I measure FE games because they all tend to be pretty flawed. Just ok srpg series.
Langrisser, Shining Force and Front Mission were all better 16-bit debut series. But sadly those all went to shit too.
>>342035917
>wanting some spoiled twincest brat for waifu
Why not natasha?
>>342029238
I like 7 and 10 equally, though I acknowledge their flaws.
>>342036212
It's easy, yes. But it's never anything "insultingly easy", and it's still very fun. I see it as a means of offsetting the Daein difficulty spikes.
4.
All of them are cool games though.
Yes, even Gaiden and Awakening. Closest to "best" is probably PoR. Ike is overrated here tho
>>342036593
>support with joshua and cormag
>best healer in the game
>smoking hot
easily agreed that nat is best waifu of 8, only rivalled by marissa
>>342037272
>marissa
Atokad11 is that you?
>>342037272
>natasha
>best anything
>>342029238
Fucking how? How do you like that best?
>>342037272
>not the almighty trio of Tana, Marisa, and Lute.
So what's the easiest FE game, is it 9 or 8 or 7? I think it's 9. They all have OP paladin and shit enemy stats, but only 9 has BEXP, forging, skills, and usable supports.
I want to put my lute inbetween Lute's lutes.
>>342036170
18 took me like 2 hours, mainly cause of those fucking generals in the south of the map.
>>342037893
Probably 8, even without grinding, but the western release of 9 is a strong contender.
>>342037893
At least PoR has a rather challenging final boss
FE is pretty shit when it comes to that (even though I hate the whole "Lol only the mc and a select number of units can damage the final boss")
I'll take my hatred of FE14 to my grave.
>>342037893
You forgot 4.
So many fucking OP characters.
4, then 8, then US 9 is probably the top 3 easiest.
But don't tell rabid 8 fans that their game is easy.
>>342038573
>At least PoR has a rather challenging final boss
And this is supposed to be what?
Why do people insist on disliking Fire Emblem games that aren't 13 and 14?
>>342038253
I mamaged to do it I like an hour by balancing my team properly
>>342038750
It's easy if you grind the tower of babel, if not you can get pretty much fucked up unless you manage to level up Ross and evolve him into Barbarian, then he's pretty much a unstoppable critter with tons of damage and defense, a WAY better Dozzla.
Also Gerik op as fuck Hero.
4 has the best plot and I like the huge maps, but it's really too easy.
Thracia is so bullshitly hard I love it, also great plot and mechanics, can't wait for the not-broken translation to come out.
PoR is overall the best when it cmes to summing things up, good plot, mechanics, cast and maps
RD is the one with my favourite gameplay
GBA ones are really great, but not as the console ones.
Awakening was the single worst thing that could happen to a series, it shat on everything tht ever existed worse than Command and Conquer 4.
Fate gameplay was okay at best but the plot was pants-on-head retarded and the jewery behind it was also terrible.
>>342038819
Berserk Ashnard
>>342039323
You are pretty bad at the game desu.
>>342039470
Berserk Ashnard is an easy boss. Either make sure no one but Ike is within his pull range or trap him.
>>342040069
Well, the fact that Ashnard moves at all may give trouble to some players
that is something compared to other FE final bosses, which are generally standing piñatas for your units to wail on
Fuck me the secondRyomalevel of Conquest is a chore, I can just about set Xander up to tank the shuriken de-buffs on the right hand side if Leo is supporting, but the left seems to be largely luck based on what those automatons with seal defence and the 3 range lunge place themselves.
>>342040416
Yeah but if he knows that he moves and you know how to check movement range, then Ashnard is the easiest boss.
>give Ike Wrath & Resolve
>win
>>342029238
You posted mine already.
>>342040786
What's the best set up for the BK fight, as you don't have resolve by then,
Aether, or wrath&adept (one of which you'd have to waste if you then wanted to stick resolve on him)
>>342040718
the only bullshit part is the ninja hallway of death, cause you pretty much NEED entrap
Left side is easy with some thinking
>>342041145
With rallies, and leo paired up Xander reaches 40 def which is enough to tank everything, apart from the masters of arms who only have 1 range. Whereas the left side I have to hope Effie hits the ninja with the javelin, and that the ninja and the automatons don't place themselves within 3 tiles of the throne room automaton's range
>>342041096
Capped Mist with Sylvion.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oFCKB3OocQQ&feature=youtu.be
>>342040718
This level was probably the hardest out of all the game with the endgame
>>342037824
I always dump lute. Tana is cool
>>342041984
Strange, because the ones I saw mentioned the most whilst waiting for Yuropoor release were the ninja village in BR, ninja cave and wind tribe in conquest, and without too many spoilers if possible is endgame like the one in BR, because that wasn't so bad once you realised the boss would only counter attack
Ike's Bizarre Adventure is my favorite FE, even if it's piss easy.Conquest and 7 are tied for 2nd, though Conquest is purely for gameplay while 7 was the whole package.
>>342029238
7 cause nostalgia.
>>342029718
The hardest part about this game was trying to find all the items in the desert while still acing it it on your first time blind. And that is simply pure luck since there's no tells at all.
>>342034172
If PoR has the best writing in the series I guess I can just skip the dialogue for the rest of them.
>>342044490
Those are just easter eggs, not a challenge
>>342044785
Well it's still the hardest part, I mean you can beat the game with half your team made up of Rolfs and shit if you didn't care about clear bonuses.
>>342029238
Fe12 is pretty much a direct upgrade from shadow dragon
>>342045246
I like the game but I disagree. Some of FE12's maps are shit tier and it relies on you knowing inviisble reinforcement triggers waaaay too often on harder difficulties.
my favorite FE is probably 9, despite it being on the easier side. They put way more effort than needed into character development and it paid off.
>>342030968
>>342045146
>turn-based tactics
Both amazing games, but you're both still retarded. Not even the same genre.
>>342045146
I really need to replay this one.
>>342029238
FE4
Also has one of my favorite soundtracks in vidya.
9 is the best.
4, 6, 7, and 13 are all great though.
Also, as a side note, anyone who praises 4 but bashes 13 is a huge hipster since they're basically the same game except 13 traded a boring serious story for a nonsensical one and some quality of life improvements.
>>342029568
As it should be
What do you expect out of FE15?
>>342047967
waifus and somehow even more casualization
horrible localization
>>342047546
I don't bash 13 but i do like 4 a lot more than it even if genealogy isn't my favorite.
I feel like 13's issue isn't that its easy, but that it essentially punishes you for trying to actually make a full team and think your way through maps. Sure Sigurd can stomp most of the game but its not like Sigurd's level cap is 60 and his stats never cap. Having full deployment all the time helps.
I also feel like the 2nd gen is more replayable as most FE13 kids turn out similarly no matter what you do, and half of the kids are useless anyway.
4's soundtrack is better too.
Still think FE13 is a good game, but gameplaywise its just not very fun.
>>342047967
waifu's, grinding, stupid amiibo like bs, tharja
>>342029238
Radiant Dawn.I still salivate at the thought of all those husbandos
>>342047546
Amen brother
>>342048274
>4's soundtrack is better too.
lol
FE4 is also not as fun to play and half the kids in second generation are complete and utter shit.
>>342047967
More hackneyed writing, moe animu artstyle, shekel hungry marketing, mostly unlikable cast, waifushit, casual faggotry, boring maps, etc.
So basically 13, 14B, 14C and 14R all over again (except 14C has ok maps, but that was probably a fluke).
>>342047967
Expect?
More waifus, more censorship, more circlejerky self-insert characters, more shitty plot lines, and a mode where the game beats itself.
Want?
None of those things.
>>342042442
This. Lute is an autist.
>>342047967
i just want a game with the gameplay of 10, balance of 7, art of 8, and story of 4 set in Magvel
what we'll get instead is a continuation of the trends of awakening and fates
>>342048481
I just like every map having its own theme, pretty impressive for the SNES.
FE4 has ranks which help if you feel like not much of the cast is contributing and most of the kids are pretty good if you manage things well. Even if patty has a dad that doesn't give her good combat her ability to cashdump makes her useful.
Seriously, pretty much all the kids are fairly helpful. Lester joins early with a horse and can one round everything, Faval has Ichival, and Fee can fly. I guess Tinny is kinda mediocre but she can run Vantage/Wrath
>>342047967
Jiggle physics.
>>342048910
Throw in the difficulty of 5 and a sprinkle of 9's atmosphere and that would be the ultimate dream FE.
I love Fire Emblem but after looking at this thread I can't bring myself to even attempt to discuss anything. It's not even a matter of different tastes, these threads are full of nonsensical reasoning, misinformation, and outright lies. And everyone is just so angry about everything. To the few reasonable people who might be reading this I'm sorry, maybe we can have some civil discussion some other time.
>>342048910
>liking FE8's art the most
good taste
>>342047967
>What do you expect out of FE15?
After Awakening and Fates, not much at all.
Especially not another game like Conquest.
>>342032447
>8 is more polished
I cannot there are people who actually believe this.
>>342049338
This is so passive aggressive, it's ridiculous.
>>342049338
don't be a downer
People can like different games for different reasons. A lot of people don't like Shadow Dragon and while I disagree I can understand why they don't enjoy it.
>>342048274
>it essentially punishes you for trying to actually make a full team and think your way through maps
Lots of FE games do this, though. Heck, most speedruns and other forms of highly efficient play use an extremely limited number of characters.
>most FE13 kids turn out similarly no matter what you do, and half of the kids are useless anyway
A lot of FE4's child units are shit, too.
>4's soundtrack is better too
I agree the soundtrack is amazing, but I'm not sure if I'd call it better than 13's. They're pretty close, I think.
>but gameplaywise its just not very fun
I'd say that about 4. It has the gigantic barren maps people shit on 13 for only 100 times worse. Plus, the second half of the game can be a complete train wreck if you're playing blind since the 2nd gen units you're forced to use can suck so bad. At least 13 gives you more options in that regard.
Not to mention you can speed up or skip turns in 13, which drastically helps the flow of gameplay.
>>342049568
>8
>not more polished than 7
its got higher quality original sprites and animations, better portrait art, for the most part a more interesting cast, better art for the levels and backgrounds, as well as a larger variety of locations and map art. add on the large amount of bonus content and ephraims story and the game sparkles compared to 7
>>342049692
Why does Arden look so much like Gattsu?Alvis = Griffith.
>>342050074
Too bad the gameplay was less polished.
Remembering to make the game nice and pretty is less important than remembering to balance it and not have it be so pisseasy.
>>342050074
Basically nothing to do with the actual quality of the game itself. I don't think you know what polished mean. FE8 has almost no balance, difficulty is an absolute joke even on Hard, bugs and glitches up the ass compared to most other FE games, level design is straight up worse, and finally Seth. It's a good game and all, but it's without a doubt the most rushed GBA Fire Emblem game.
>>342050108
>gattsu
>>342049839
My bad.
Every FE encourages lowmanning to a degree(except maybe thracia)
FE13 goes a bit too far and encourages using like 4 units due to Second seals resetting levels and caps being super high. And said units are paired due to pairup being so much better than not being paired up, so that's a total of 2 units you move every turn.
FE13 has some great ideas and I do like how some of the 2nd gens work. The problem is that the paralogues sometimes end up being hard to the point where you're likely to be getting kids near the very end, making them useless.
I do love some of 13's tracks(Prelude is amazing) but the lategame tracks blend together for me. Not a big dude when it comes to chanting and whatnot. That's more of a personal issue.
FE4's maps do have problems and while the return/warp staves fix some of them, Chapter 7 is still always gonna suck. Kids being screwable is a problem, and while its partially due to people not having access to an instruction manual because lolJPonly, there's too big of a punishment if you accidentally do something like give Delmud a bad dad.
I suppose for me the reason I don't like 13 as much is because 14 does most of its mechanics better. While FE6 is a good game, I don't play it much because I like how 7 plays better. FE4's uniqueness help me enjoy it.
Thanks for explaining your points though.
>>342050482
Thankfully the localization actually fixed a good amount of errors. FE8J has some serious oversights, like Cormag being a fucking monster in Ephraim route for no good reason. Still has issues, but the English version helped it a fair bit.
>>342050651
Sorry meant Gatts.
>>342050891
>gatts
>not guttsu
>>342050074
The grinding ruins the game by fucking with natural game and level progression.
In other FEs, you can assume the devs planned on you being ready for the next chapter just by beating the previous one (outside of extreme game-ending scenarios like you having lost all your units or only leveled one or two).
In the games that allow grinding, that confidence in progression goes out the window as you have no idea how much grinding the devs built and gauged the next chapter's difficulty around.
>>342050412
7 is piss easy, m8. You just suck at the game.
>>342051018
>The grinding ruins the game
Only reason you grind is because you chose to. You are not forced to go to Valni or fight a single random encounter by the plot.
>>342051448
But it's still harder than 8.
>>342051717
I fail to see how it is harder than 8 in any way. In 7 you start out with 3 units that cannot die and it only gets easier from there.
>>342051859
In 8 you have one unit that can solo the entire game with ease. Also what characters are you referring to when you say
>In 7 you start out with 3 units that cannot die
Exactly? I assume you mean Marcus which to be fair he is really good, but he is no Seth.
>>342052139
>Also what characters are you referring to when you say
Marcus, Oswin, and Hector.
>Exactly? I assume you mean Marcus which to be fair he is really good, but he is no Seth.
What can Seth do that Marcus can't?
>kill everything
Marcus can do this.
>not die
Marcus doesn't die.
>kill boss
Marcus kills bosses.
Not sure what makes you think Seth makes the early game any easier than Marcus.
>>342052139
>Trainee Classes
>Seth
>Bishops do fucking ridiculous amounts of damage to zombies, which is what you fight for most of the game
>zombies are squishier than anything in 7
>infinite exp
>Everyone's stats feel like they are on steroids
At least you could possibly die in 7 if you got cocky and/or weren't paying attention. You can literally stomp with just fuckin Seth in 8.
>>342052383
My Marcus died in false friends.
>>342052383
Marcus falls off hard mid late game. He doesn't have the fucking stats that Seth does.
>>342050713
Hmm. I personally consider 13 better than 14.
Although 14 improved on reclassing, map design, and a few tiny quality of life features, it fell short in several areas compared to 13.
The dub was worse, there being 2 different versions was a scummy cash grab, the child units were tacked on and irrelevant to the story, the story was far worse than 13's, the pvp was destroyed thanks to pay to win skills, and the censorship (although present in 13) was much more of an issue in 14.
Even the self-insert mary sue character in 13 was more connected to the lore of the series than 14's due to inferred facts about the tactician in FE7.
Of course I concede that some of the the improvements 14 made over 13 were quite important. However, I still consider 13 to be better simply because it was a bit more normalized and less chaotic than 14. To explain, 14 improved in a lot of ways but also failed in many others. 13's successes and failures, on the other hand, were far more moderate in comparison, which is why I personally am much more accepting of it.
Don't even bother arguing with "8 isn't easier than 7" idiots.
8 is 4/9 tier easy.
>>342033121
>The game devs put it in
>"You're supposed to avoid them"
8 is r-really g-great guys!
>>342034007
Same. I will never forget that feel from picking it up from a sam goody that was closing. It was either that or DOA1&2 for the xbox and I went with fire emblem. Best choice I made in vidya choices(though I did end up getting into DOA later also). Played on the gba in the food court while my parents were meeting a family friend. Those first few hours blew me away.
>>342052581
>Trainee Classes
Don't use them unless you want to make the game harder.
>Bishops do fucking ridiculous amounts of damage to zombies, which is what you fight for most of the game
There is no reason to use bishops against zombies. They have single digit stats. Also you don't fight them for most of the game unless you spend all your time grinding Valni.
>>342052383
>Marcus, Oswin, and Hector.
>Hector
So you're a retard who actually fell for the
>Hector is so le OP XD
meme even though he's just good at best. He's definitely not good when you first get him considering he has mediocre base stats and he comes at a low level at least. Oswin is a mediocre unit. Obviously you haven't played the game much.
>What can Seth do that Marcus can't?
Well for one thing he actually has incredibly good growths meaning he won't fall behind later on in the game. Marcus is God early game, only okay mid-game, and useless late.
>>342052854
And it's even easier than both those games.
>>342052383
Lol ok buddy.
Tell you what, why don't you stream a run of FE7 and post the link? Then show us a FE8 run. We'll compare the results.
>>342052854
fe4's harder than fe3 book 1, and arguably book 2 as well.
Not that there's a problem with that, I like FE3.
>>342052965
Hector has 8 defense at level 1 and he should gain about 3 levels in his first map. If you think he's not invincible you seriously need some git gud.
>Well for one thing he actually has incredibly good growths meaning he won't fall behind later on in the game.
Which means absolutely nothing for the early game, which is what we are talking about. Marcus doesn't need to dominate maps late in FE7. You get monsters like Sain, Hawkeye, Vaida, Harken, Geitz, Pent who can handle the fights.
>>342053393
>Hector has 8 defense at level 1 and he should gain about 3 levels in his first map.
Yeah only if you baby the fuck out of him. He's not as invincible as you're making him out to be.
>Which means absolutely nothing for the early game, which is what we are talking about.
No that's what YOU are talking about. The original subject was how FE8 was a easier game than FE7, not about how the early game is easier or anything.
>You get monsters like Sain, Hawkeye, Vaida, Harken, Geitz, Pent who can handle the fights.
>Geitz
Sorry I thought you were serious.
>>342047967
I don't know what to expect anymore, I just hope it's a departure from 13 and 14. You niggers are crazy if you think I'm sifting through all that garbage just for the few good points Conquest may have.
>>342052958
Your entire argument revolves around not using MAJOR PARTS OF THE GAME to have a challenge.
>Don't Grind!
>Dont use the best units in the game!
>Dont use this certain class!
What the fuck kind of logic is that? But no, I'll just go ahead and use it against you.
>FE7 is super hard guys! Just don't use Hector, Oswin, arena abuse, any of the Lyn Legion units, or any of the already promoted units!
>You are supposed to avoid using the OP things that the devs put into the game guys!
>Afterall, nobody is FORCING you to use the good units :^)
>Play FE8
>Get old dude in a horse
>Proceed to win the game without trying
Duessel was a mistake.
>>342053831
>Yeah only if you baby the fuck out of him.
Have you literally never played FE7? Hector's first map is where Hector and Matthew are the only deploys.
>The original subject was how FE8 was a easier game than FE7, not about how the early game is easier or anything.
It's almost like FE7 has retardedly easy mid and late game thanks to massive exp you get in all the maps, shit enemy stats, and retardedly good prepromos, so only thing Marcus needs to be equal to Seth in is the early game.
>Sorry I thought you were serious.
Only thing wrong with Geitz is that you need to level Lyn and Eliwood to get him. But you don't really need him anyway, you probably don't have deploy slots seeing as you get so many good units.
>>342054129
>It's almost like FE7 has retardedly easy mid and late game thanks to massive exp you get in all the maps, shit enemy stats, and retardedly good prepromos,
Which FE8 has, but with even squishier enemies, infinite exp, etc.
>>342054318
It doesn't matter if FE8 enemies are squishier. They all die in 2 hits.
>>342042582
Those aren't nearly as bad as people make them out to be. If anything, the wind village one is just tedious.
>>342054129
>Have you literally never played FE7? Hector's first map is where Hector and Matthew are the only deploys.
I just assumed you meant the first map where you first recruit Hector.
>It's almost like FE7 has retardedly easy mid and late game thanks to massive exp you get in all the maps, shit enemy stats, and retardedly good prepromos, so only thing Marcus needs to be equal to Seth in is the early game.
Again you're delusional if you think that Marcus even holds a candle to someone like Seth. Marcus cannot solo the game he appears in. Seth can. That's the biggest difference.
>Only thing wrong with Geitz is that you need to level Lyn and Eliwood to get him.
No it's because he's fucking shit and all your other characters are better.
Please stop pretending FE7 is somehow as easy as FE8 in any shape or form. It really is not.
>>342029238
Sacred Stones FE8
>>342048910
>Story set in Magvel
My nigga
>>342054629
>I just assumed you meant the first map where you first recruit Hector.
Lol get a load of this casual he's only played Eliwood mode.
>Marcus cannot solo the game he appears in. Seth can. That's the biggest difference.
Seth can't solo FE7. It's not because of stats but because of how the maps are designed.
>No it's because he's fucking shit and all your other characters are better.
Geitz HM has 19 str, 14 spd, 12 def, and B rank bows. At 20/3. He's insanely good.
You know what your boyfriend Seth has at 20/3 on average? 15 str, 13 spd, and 12 def. And I'm rounding up.
Where's the 404 /v/ let's play
I lost my Fates cart and I don't even care. Is this normal?
If I wanted to play FE, taking into consideration that I'm not a casual shitter nor a waifu fag, which entry is the best to get someone interested into the series?
Radiant Dawn
Are there any jeigans/oifeys that can even hold a candle to Seth?
>>342055910
7 is the go-to entry point for the series. It also has a 10 chapter long tutorial on your first run through so it's better to get that out of the way first.
>>342056176
Pretty sure any Jeigan/Oifey can max their stats with infinite stat boosters, even the original Jeigan himself.
>>342054963
>Lol get a load of this casual he's only played Eliwood mode.
Next time actually refer to Hector Mode instead of Eliwood Mode.
>Seth can't solo FE7. It's not because of stats but because of how the maps are designed.
What? What you're saying makes absolutely no sense.
>Geitz HM has 19 str, 14 spd, 12 def, and B rank bows. At 20/3. He's insanely good.
He's okay. He's not "insanely good" by any stretch however.
>You know what your boyfriend Seth has at 20/3 on average? 15 str, 13 spd, and 12 def. And I'm rounding up.
Wow now you're actually comparing to Seth to Geitz! Unbelievable. Maybe you really are actually retarded. I should just ignore you but I will bite anyways. For starters you get Seth at the VERY BEGINNING OF THE GAME. This is the point of the game where he can kill every single enemy including bosses in merely one turn. You get Geitz much later in comparison and while he's good and certainly usable he's not a God tier unit by any stretch. So what if his bases are worse? The point is how useful at the point of the game he is. Secondly his consistent as fuck growths make him good throughout the entire game, and also because the enemies in FE8 are generally much squishier than they are in FE7.
Also I noticed you said Vaida too which is actually a legitimately bad unit.
Make way for best song
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AD9h7kF6e3s
>>342056176
There's something about this fucker's portrait that always makes me want to use him even though I know he's a stupid crutch piece of shit faggot. I think it's the red hair.
>>342056176
Titania.
Sigurd.
>>342056482
>He's okay. He's not "insanely good" by any stretch however.
He's pretty much as good as your best combat units, Sain, Raven, and Harken. AND he gets the ability to use Brave Bow right off the bat. You really have no idea what you're talking about.
>So what if his bases are worse? The point is how useful at the point of the game he is.
Which is exactly why Marcus is just as good as Seth.
>Secondly his consistent as fuck growths make him good throughout the entire game,
His consistent as fuck growths make him equal to base Geitz when he's 20/12. That should show you how good Geitz's stats are.
>Also I noticed you said Vaida too which is actually a legitimately bad unit.
Vaida flies, and has 22 str, 21 skill, 14 spd, and 22 def at base. Are you pretending to be retarded? I think it's about time you start saying that in a desperate attempt to save face.
>>342057178
>He's pretty much as good as your best combat units, Sain, Raven, and Harken. AND he gets the ability to use Brave Bow right off the bat. You really have no idea what you're talking about.
You also have Kent, Hector, Oswin, Lowen, Erk, Lucius, Guy, Florina etc. all of which are better than Geitz. There is no real reason to use him unless you are desperate for another axe user. Other characters can use bows better if you really need one.
>Which is exactly why Marcus is just as good as Seth.
But Marcus is useless late game unlike Seth. Why don't you learn to read?
>His consistent as fuck growths make him equal to base Geitz when he's 20/12. That should show you how good Geitz's stats are.
Geitz is underleveled as hell.
>Vaida flies, and has 22 str, 21 skill, 14 spd, and 22 def at base. Are you pretending to be retarded? I think it's about time you start saying that in a desperate attempt to save face.
Vaida can't double for shit except against unpromoted enemies and generals. All the other fliers are better than her, even Heath. She sucks.
Please stop posting.
>>342033153
Swordmasters are so slow in fates
All those speedy light animations are replaced with heavy, slow not graceful ones
>>342057095
Ah Siggy, the only character to be both the lord and his own Jeigan
>tfw no actual good FE romhacks
>tfw TLP was ruined when Keklik took over the story
i want more of that oh so sweet satisfaction of the GBA games
>>342057882
>You also have Kent, Hector, Oswin, Lowen, Erk, Lucius, Guy, Florina etc. all of which are better than Geitz.
Lol are you fucking kidding me? None of them are boss killers. All but Lucius have anywhere from extremely low to no chance in hell of hitting 19 strength at 20/3, and Lucius is too fragile for heavy duty fighting.
>But Marcus is useless late game unlike Seth.
So what? It's the context that matters.
>Geitz is underleveled as hell.
20/3 at chapter 24 is underleveled? Pent joins 2 maps later at 20/6. Hawkeye joined 1 map earlier at 20/4. And neither of them got the enemy bonus. It's painfully obvious that you've never played FE7.
>Vaida can't double for shit except against unpromoted enemies and generals.
14 speed is the doubling threshold in FE7, you filthy casual. If you have 14 AS, you double regular enemies. Fast enemies like SMs and assassins can't be doubled no matter what. If you don't even know the basics about the game, maybe you shouldn't have opinions about it.
>>342058494
Try Requiem
>>342058729
Look I think we strayed far from the original point, and that's FE8 is an easier game than FE7, which I got from this conversation from so far you still have not proved me wrong. Okay I will admit you know much more about the game than me because I don't play it religiously unlike you, but it doesn't matter because in the end I'm still right.
>>342059193
I know more about the game because you know absolute jack. Which goes to show you how much value your opinions hold.
>>342059193
>>342059369
pssstboth 7 and 8 are piss easy because of arena abuse
>>342049182
As long as it doesn't have some of the dumb/unfair things 5 had. I wouldn't have minded Thracia as much if we didn't have to deal with fatigue or heal staves missing.
>>342029238
FE3, book 2 was an amazing adventure.
>>342059504
They're piss easy because the game just hands out the best units to you on a silver plate while having pathetic unpromoted enemies all the way to the next to last map.
If you needed to arena abuse when you have things like Seth, Marcus and Pent with 0 investment required, you suck.
>>342059504
Just don't use arena then. I never used it anyway.
4 also had arena abuse though
>>342059369
Yep it's true you know more than me, I admitted this. But the one important detail you forgot is that you still have not posted any evidence about FE7 being an easier game than FE8. What I want to know is why you're defending a braindead game like FE8 anyways considering how clearly intelligent and sophisticated you are.
>>342058494
requiem is alright
Midnight sun is pretty neat but not finished yet
>>342059736
i don't like the lategame
too many dragons. It encourages Warp/Again abuse. I do like how even max stat units are in a fair bit of danger near the end.
>>342060628
At least you can deal with them with varied anima spells instead of relying on those 15 use weapons you bought back in the desert chapter to last the whole game.
>>342061092
true
the elemental weaknesses were pretty good. No clue why they weren't in FE12, it ended up making dragons too strong and the dragonkilling weapons too useful
alternately, which is your least favorite?
>>342062972
Awakening.
It's just so dull, the only good part is making a team of all the women I was never allowed to dick in 7, and even then it's missing a lot.
>>342062972
Revelation.
