>/v/ says game will be bad
>It's good
>Doesn't get talked about again
What the fuck are you on about?
There were countless great threads about NuDOOM
>>342015167
>/v/ says the games will be bad
>game is mediocre
>neo-/v/ loves mediocre shit
>it's talked about and dies as the new flavor of the month comes
>few retards who fell for the meme try to damage control by making a few threads with few replies
>original fans keep playing the original games because vidya reboots are always shit
>>342015167
No they claim it is a new Tortanic and a ded game.
>NuDoom
>Literally Assassin Creed tier PRESS X TO WIN SHIT
What happened to my industry?
>>342015931
>I-I'll call him a cuck
>t-that'll show him hehe
beta as fuck
>>342016036
t. guy who didn't play the game
>Mfw people say the MP is bad when it's fun as fuck.
DOOM is great. People talking about it a LOT.
Still would, probably, if not for E3. I am surprised there weren't more snapmap threads, but whatever.
>>342016180
it is bad hence why is dying already
>>342016331
>how much people post about it is linked to its quality
The multiplayer is shit, so it's a regular campaign FPS for most people. Doesn't generate much conversation, lad.
The truth is, it turned out to be a bretty good 7/10 game, but because everyone was expecting it to be terrible disgrace to the series, the praise ended up being way overblown.
Regardless, it's pretty hard to have much continued discussion over a serviceable, straightforward ~10 hour FPS.
>>342015167
Thanks, Denuvo.
>no mod tools
>surprised nobody is talking about
There's a reason the Doom general on /vr/ is still very active. There's nothing to talk about in Doom 4 aside from snapmap.
>>342016036
>Press firing button while aiming at enemy
>Win the enemy
>WOOOW SHITTY MODERN GAMES!
>>342016036
>shoot enemy with gun
>enemy takes damaged
FUCKING NIGGER CASUAL GAMES
I got some Unreal vibes from the MP and I had fun with it. Why's it bad?
>>342015167
What >>342015353 said.
Patiently waiting for the sequel/expansion.
>>342017659
Same, I'm not for sure why people hate it.
I hope more actually good games will use denuvo in the future. Its hilariously obvious how many people shitting on it never actually played it because they cant pirate it
South park fractured butthole release will be amazing
>>342016473
I didn't say that the popularity of the game is based around the /v/ post count just that the MP in general is dead as fuck for a good resaon
>/v/ is one person
>>342017659
>>342017853
>that fucking garbage Halo clone mp
>UT vibes
fucking either reinstall UT and remind yourself that you're wrong or cut your cock off and eat it.
>>342017659
It's not bad, it's just rather average and not incredibly Doom-y.
>>342018045
UT was just a halo clone idiot...
I'm near the last level now. It's got level design that rivals Dark Souls 1 and a campaign that reminds me of Half Life 1
If you aren't interested in it you are missing out a little, if you ask me
>>342017901
It sold so poorly that they had to release a demo to try to get people to pay for it.
That Devuno working wonders. How much did it cost them again?
>>342018286
upset, moron?
it wasn't even as successful lol....
>>342018395
EASY
I played the demo and I didn't like how much it emphasized the glory kills. It breaks the pace of the game way too much for me.
>>342015167
>based on the awful multiplayer beta it is assumed to be awful
>turns out to be above average (for a modern game)
>doesnt get talked about because it has no staying power
>>342015167
/v/ also said Dishonored is 4 hours long, the Vita is bad, and fawns over waifu bait even if the underlying game is complete shovelware.
>>342018551
Turn off the glory kill highlight and unbind the key. The game is perfectly playable without using it.
>>342015167
That is seriously the best and most well made version of that pose I have ever seen. I love it more than the original and it looks more detailed than even the official one. Wish that was the box art.
>>342018672
Man, this board sucks. Like everything about it. I think I'm done here. I've never met people so unself-aware
>>342018551
>it breaks the pace of the game
How? They take .5 seconds and give you small health gains, rewarding aggression and keeping the game moving.
I thought i would hate the glory kills, but theyre actually a great mechanic.
>>342018868
See you tomorrow
>>342018868
/v/ are thousands of people. You only get extreme opinions most of the time, so they are bound to be overly negative or absurdly positivehave a good one, friend. See you on the other side.
>>342018551
You don't need to use it. On the flipside there's an ability that makes you go faster after you do one.
>>342018672
The Vita is bad though, the only games it has are weeab VN's and MH clones
>>342018927
>theyre actually a great mechanic
>They take 5 seconds and give you small health gains
>>342018868
>>342018672
Could be worse. Could be /pol/ levels of lacking self awareness.
>>342018672
Dishonored is a terrible video game, the vita is a terrible console, and how can you fawn over waifu bait and call the vita bad?
It might surprise you but this place has millions of users all with unique opinions. While I think the vita is shit and just sold mine, somebody else likes it. That's why there is the
>I love my vita!
shit posting meme thing with customized vita anime girls. Kill yourself.
Ah another Bethesda shill thread with major samefags and less than 30 posters. Kys shills. No one is gonna buy this shitty fucking game.
game sucks until i can pirate it
then it'll be good
>>342018551
It last 2 seconds. It's to get health if you need health.
Shit doesn't get crazy until you get to hell, but the first level is a retarded way to show off the game. Foundry would have been a bit better.
>>342019098
You die very fast in this game on the higher difficulties. Watch some Nightmare gameplay.
>>342015167
>taking the word of a few shitposters as the overwhelming consensus a million people despite all clear evidence to the contrary
Can you think for yourself? If you really need other people to tell you what to say, how to say it, and what to think, why don't you just go to Neogaf? Perfect place for people who need to be told how to exist.
>>342019169
>Dishonored is a terrible video game
this b8
>>342018369
I think it's more because the marketing team did such a god awful job. More that to blame than Denuvo
>>342015167
>Punch Punch [PRESS X FOR THE FINISHER]: The Game
it's never going to be cracked, is it?
>>342015167
>/v/ says game is shit
>game isn't shit
>/v/ too embarrassed to talk about it again because they were wrong as always
Was good. Kinda feel bad about paying $80 Canadian sheckles for it. But it was the first new release I bought full price since like Grand Theft Auto V so whatever.
The demo seemed okay.
I'll buy it when it's $19.99.
>>342019098
>they take 5 seconds
I don't think you've played the game.
>>342018673
Different guy here, can I survive Nightmare difficulty without any Glory kills whatsoever?
>>342019327
I'm sorry you have poor taste in video games.
>>342019375
you're never going to get a job, are you?
>>342018551
It punctuates the combat, for me. Like the 3rd SSG shot on the original HKs, stuff like that.
>>342019098
He said .5, not 5.
That's underballing it unless you got the rune though.
>>342015545
t poorfag
>>342019479
I don't think you read my post
>>342018551
>>342019098
Glory kills exist to help casuals regain hp and stay in the game. If you need to use Glory Kills, then you may want to rethink how you approach a level, and which weapons you are using.
>>342015167
No lie, bait or jokes here. I seriously thought the doomguy was master chief shopped into the image. That's actually doomguys armor though isn't it?
>>342019508
Please show me how I can get a job without applying for 500 jobs and waiting for a month.
>>342019535
t. betheshill
>>342016036
Have another (you)
>>342015167
It's dogshit. Deal with it, shill.
>>342019149
I'd agree but /v/ is pretty much an alt right shithole at this point too.
>>342019169
>this place has millions of users all with unique opinions
>proceeds to go full shitposting hivemind
>>342019721
Fuck off reverse shill
>>342019375
soon man, soon
don't give up hope. mk dev is gonna crack this piece of shit game so the true fans can play it without giving bethesda or neo-id a single cent
>>342019098
Reading comprehension is important kids.
B-B-B-BUT NEVA EVA
https://www.reddit.com/r/CrackStatus/comments/4otvkk/update_mkdev_doom_gets_to_the_full_menu/
>>342015167
>>Doesn't get talked about again
/v/ would break if any constructive or supportive commentary/conversation went on here
>>342017072
>Doom game published by Bethesda
>They didn't use it to shill Bethesda Net and console mods
>No mod support at all
I'm fucking baffled
>>342019187
There is someone who unironically wrote this post and thought it was good. They can't be older than 17.
>>342018672
Dishonored actually is 4 hours longif you play it like dumb a mongoloid instead of the stealth game it is.
I fucking love the Vita but it is technically a massive failure. Sony even pretty much ignored it at E3 and the only new games coming out for it anymore are dumb weeb games. It would have been a great handheld if only Gravity Rush was a preview of things to come, but people only buy handhelds in Japan for Monster Hunter and VNs and pretty much no one uses handhelds in the west except kids.
>>342019643
>actually using the web applications
Son, 90% of those are paper shredders. Beat feet on pavement, get a feel for the street and the industry you are trying to get into. Join a few professionals clubs, makes from friends, and network. If nothing else, check CL at a different city, because some towns just aint got shit all to do.
>>342017659
It's not bad I would just prefer more single player content. Unfortunately all the DLC packs are about snapmap and multiplayer. I've played some good maps with friends though, shits fun when done right.
I really want to continue the story though.
>>342019863
it's a literal quote you fucking retard.
>>342016331
t.pcuck
the multiplayer is alive and well on PS4
>>342019187
>id software game
>its a Bethesda shill thread
>>342018673
What if I want to finish off a low health enemy without using a bullet? Oh wait, I can't because glory kills can't be completely turned off. Yeah, they're somewhat quick, but it breaks the flow for me.
>>342020105
>>342019863
It's not though.
>>342016036
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOM
HE'S MAKING FUN OF MY GAMES AGAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIN!
>>342019341
>>Punch Punch
way to show you didn't even play it lol
>>342020182
so just shoot them
>>342020105
Wow. You are some kind of stupid.
>>342020219
read
>>342018927
and fuck off retard
>>342019643
That's the first step retard. Quit being bitch made and start making some money you fucking neet
>>342020298
I did. It's not a quote. Original post said .5, the "quote" says 5.
doom 4 is the most shilled game on /v/ when considering the game's quality. I recently finished it and it's the most mediocre shooter i have ever played. Even the shooters by Raven Software are better
Is it pirate friendly yet? I'm not paying 85 Canadian fun bucks for anything. Fuck you Trudeau
>>342020147
A fast paced shooter being played with a controller can never be considered alive nor well.
>>342019837
Calling out reverse shilling doesn't not make you a shill shill.
Mods should ban all shill threads
>>342020535
>mfw I just discovered there's a game rental place in town
>call them
>they have Doom
AWWWWWWWWWW SHIT NIGGAAAAAAA
>>342015167
It was really fun for 6 hours.
Too bad there is no point to play it again, the multiplayer is shit, and the map maker is useless.
How long did you expect talk to last for a game you finish in an afternoon?
>>342020436
kys
>>342020607
>anything that I don't like is a shill thread
>>342020720
I enjoyed how mad you got.
>>342019939
Nu-HDoom never
>>342020878
Yeah man, why don't you post it on /r/4chan for le upboats?
>>342020147
>don't have anything else to play other than COD or Fifa
>have to play a shitty Halo clone instead
>>342015167
Disregarding that the game may be fun, try not to get a boner for shooting people you think are related to Satan, in case the devil is some jew who said he'd be back before his firstly appointed apostles died and never came back in spite of this crucial condition being met thousands of years ago.
>>342019495
Ironically enough excessive use of glory kills will get you killed on nightmare. Anyone who plays that ultra nightmare or whatever doesn't use glory kills at all because its too big of a risk
It's painfully obvious the developers saw the popularity of Brutal Doom and designed Doom 4 with that mindset.
>>342021349
Explain
I have played brutal doom for dozens of hours and literally never used melee
>>342020182
Breaks the flow a whole lot less than in the original. Its honestly weirdly hard to go back now because weapon switching is so slow.
>>342020942
Oh yes. More please.
>>342020735
>game is released
>10 threads 24/7
>1 month after no threads
>THEY WEREN'T SHILLS
sure thing shill
>>342021530
Why the fuck would people continue talking about a 10 hour singleplayer game 24/7 a month after release? Are you fucking retarded lad
>>342020182
>without using a bullet?
the fucking pistols have infinite ammo.
>>342021661
I think it's rather people who actually wanna discuss it where chased off by /v/ faggots who kept calling them shills.
>>342021349
its funny because brutal doom plays even more like a modern shooter than D44M
>>342018551
> "Killing an enemy quickly brakes the pace for me"
nigga wat?
>>342021661
On nu/v/ talking about games is for shills.
Didn't you know this board is just for blatant /pol/ bait?
>>342019495
Depends on what combination of shit you're using. Overall I would say that no, not really. You would have to use at least the chainsaw.
>>342021267
This is true. Enemies charge up their attacks now. While you're invulnerable during the glory kills, getting out of the animation and eating a rocket barrage or a full fireball is deadly.
>>342021349
It's an overreaction to how badly received was D3's spookyness among fans, and it was inspired by the comic (which inspired BD).
>>342021464
>Its honestly weirdly hard to go back now because weapon switching is so slow.
I agree with this.
>>342015167
>>Doesn't get talked about again
Guess why?Denuvo
https://www.artstation.com/artwork/Wb08G
Gotta love Art Station
Filled to the brim with talented artists and actual Industry professionals that worked on big Hollywood films and AAA games, how they keep retards from Tumblr and DeviantArt out remains a mystery to me
>>342020535
Yes. 85% playable.
people who say glory kills slow the game down either haven't played it or are flat-out retarded
glory kills get you health, when you are at low hp you have to go kill some shit to regain it. the lower your health the more aggressive you have to be. that is the opposite of slowing down
>>342020720
Ahh, summer.
>>342022017
Artstation has tons of shit art, but the way the site works versus Deviant Art is it's very hard to find it if it looks like shit.
>>342022017
Baron ruins it.
>>342022378
>B-but glory kills. B-but linear maps! B-But bad soundtrack. B-But Denuvo!!!!
Every D44M thread in a nutshell.
>>342021789
With the time it takes to switch to the pistol and back, it would be faster to just do the glory kill anyway.
>>342022654
Why are you playing an arena FPS on a console?
>>342020147
>Console shooter
>Alive and well
If you say so
My only problem with D44m was how easy it was. Even playing on ultra violence first time I rarely died. Maybe nightmare is better, but the first 3 difficulty modes are a joke.
>>342015167
crack when
>>342022654
this game switch weapons faster than og doom even without the perk, nigger.
>>342022769
>nudoom
>arena fps
laffo
>>342022817
then why didnt you play on nightmare
>>342022769
Even then you can fast switch weapons
>>342022817
Nightmare is the way to go.
OG Doom was way too easy too.
Hope they go Plutonia with the expansion.
>>342018191
>shitposting anon doesn't know UT came out in like 1997 years before 12 year olds were telling me what they would do to my mother on Halo
>>342022905
You have to beat the game first to unlock the harder modes.
>>342022817
Ultra violence doom vs ultra violence d44m, d44m is harder no question.
dual Xeon 5440
R9 290x 4gb
16gb RAM
i probably already know the answer to this, but will it play DOOM
>>342015167
>6 hours of decent gameplay for 60 dollars with a tacted on MP
If I wanted that I would buy another CoD game I havent played from G2A
>>342023005
He knows, tripfag.
>>342023050
Nightmare is unlocked from the start. Yes, I know it's red. You can still select it.
>>342022886
>you literally fight in an arena with a fast pace and emphasis on movement, pickups, and switching weapons
>not an arena FPS
Shitposting doesn't speed the crack up, Anon.
>>342023050
nightmare is unlocked by default. it looks locked because it's in red
>>342023005
thats what they want you to think, idiot tripfag
I played the demo, and while it's definitely not bad, it's not good enough to warrant 60 bucks for it. I will probably get it when it's on sale for 10 or so.
>>342023164
>a fast pace
>nudoom
>fast
post purchase rationalisation is hilarious
>>342021858
>It's an overreaction to how badly received was D3's spookyness among fans
No, it's because they were developing Call of Doom before, and realised it would be terrible. So they quickly got MachineGames do make something decent.
>>342023158
>>342023173
Well shit who thought that was a good idea? I would have loved to played on nightmare my first time.
>>342023143
play the demo?
>>342022378
Glory kills are scaled so that you get more health when you are running low. On higher difficulties, you don't get a lot more leeway between low health and dead. The main issues I had with the glory kill system is that it takes away my situational awareness and gives enemies a free setup.
>>342023276
Here's your last (You), Anon. I hope you get to play the game soon, it's really fun.
>>342023290
you definitely aren't the first who thought nightmare was locked
>>342023397
demo was out for a whole week kid, there's no need to lie and pretend nudoom was anything but a trainwreck
>fuccbois promote doom as the goat
>everyone buys it
>everyone beats it in 8 hours
>everyone wants refunds
>dead game.
I 100% this shit in 15 hours. Sold it for $45, another reason why I buy games on console to I can get my money back instead of it letting sit there on steam like a dumbfuck
>>342023281
MachineGames had nothing to do with Doom 2016.
>>342023290
It was pretty silly, yeah. UN had the lock besides it, but noone noticed that over the red lettering.
They were going for the "Hey this difficulty is hard and you can't switch out mid campaign like with the others" but they fucked up.
Don't worry, you're not the first.
>>342023621
>d44m on console
Might as well kill yourself
Also you know games are usually twice as cheap on 3rd party key sites making d44m 30 bucks on pc right
>>342022769
Except I'm not.
>>342023786
>30 bux for 8 hours and a lifetime of regret
>>342023943
>regret over 30 bucks
>30 bucks for 8 hours of entertainment is a lot
So this is what being a weebshit neet feels like
>>342023943
if 30 dollars causes you a life time of regret why the fuck would you ever buy a game at full price?
Calling it now:
>DLC takes place on Phobos and Deimos, as they're referenced in-game
>DOOM II is a remake of Hell on Earth
>>342023821
Then why are you complaining about the weapon switch speed? It's near instant.
>>342024037
>>342024073
>wasting money is cool LOL us millenials don't give a FUCK *wipes ass with $100 bill* my parents will bail me out LMAO
>>342024175
they why buy the game at all? why not wait years for it to be 5 bucks? why play it at all if the cost is so great?
>>342024175
You're pathetic lad
>>342024175
>every popular twitch streamer ever
>>342015167
>game comes out not so bad
>gets talked about it for a while
>marketing team makes thread about how good it is weeks after release
Everyone except pirates played the singleplayer, possibly finished and enjoyed it. MP is shit. Nothing left to talk about.
>>342022495
newfag
Doom 64 style standalone expansion when?
>>342024404
They're never gonna go spoopy on this one.
Also technically Doom64 already happened.
>>342015167
Just bought this game on amazon. Cant fucking wait for it to come in the mail. I also got it cheap. XD
>>342023786
I got it for 45 and sold it for 45, I'll take free over $30 you valvedrone
>>342015167
>Doesn't get talked about again
That's because /v/ is composed mostly by filthy piratefags.
>>342024775
You couldn't pay me to play d44m with a fucking controller
>>342024775
>console fps
>console arena FPS
Disgusting. Why even bother?
>>342024862
>controller
nothing wrong with using it on a pc, faggot.
>>342019495
you can totally, and you should on nightmare all you want to do on nightmare is dodge any damage at all, and glory kills are relatively risky because, even though you are invincible during the glory, being stuck in place for the few seconds will have every fireball and bullet coming at you at once right before you can even react
>>342025121
What?
>>342025121
What the are you on about
>>342025186
holy fuck im in the wrong thread.
>>342025372
nice job
>>342023621
At what point is a game a good value to you? Is it just a matter of play time?
>>342023663
>MachineGames had nothing to do with Doom
Why are their artists and designers in the credits then?
Judging by the first few posts in this thread, everyone is suddenly saying it's bad. Can't say I'm surprised, the same thing happened with Human Revolution after a month of /v/ drowning in threads about how good it was. That's what happens, this place in contrarian as fuck. I just wish I could find a good place to talk about video games that isn't either "Everything it awesome! You must participate in the circlejerk!" or "Everything is shit!"
>>342024162
Because I have little incentive to switch to the pistol and back over glory kills considering they take up about the same amount of time.
>>342025572
>>342023663
https://www.mobygames.com/game/windows/doom___/credits
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pI9__eYIrdU
>>342025609
If you find one let me know.
Every time I get fed up with this contrarian hugbox I try new sites and realize the contrarian hugbox is slightly less shit than the everything is fucking amazing lmao look what my girlfriend drew! xD hugbox.
>/v/ suddenly says this game is trash 30+ days after its released
Never change you unfucked fuccbois
>>342025609
t. paid shill
>playing demo
>movement speed just doesn't feel quite fast enough for certain parts
>hit shift to sprint
>it's a fucking walk button
Why would I want to walk? Why is there no sprint?
>hurr just pretend glory kills don't exist
>enter rune trial
>+2 seconds per kill (+4 seconds per glory kill)
Really id?
>>342015167
The campaign is alright and the multiplayer is garbage. What's there to talk about really? The deep lore?
>>342026069
>>hit shift to sprint
>>it's a fucking walk button
Just like original doom then?
>>342026148
playing on hard makes all the enemies bullet sponges without the glory kills. at least SS BFE had a reason not to do them
>>342017659
because youre a pleb who likes being cucked
The multiplayer is pretty cut and dry; it just seems like the same thing over and over again. When I finally reached my first prestige I got bored and sticked to single-player, which in my opinion was more well done.
>>342026069
t.source port faggot
>it's good
It isn't shit, doesn't mean it's worth full price or should be hailed as some renaissance. The fact that games that aren't blatant ripoffs get such high praise illustrates the current state of the culture.
>>342025902
>>342025609
Same. The only thing that comes close if reddit (yes, I fucking know) but you have to mix and match so much shit to get it to be a decent feed.
And the userbase is still very /v/ at times.
>>342026069
I don't know, why would you want to walk? That's why they made run the default.
>>342026265
That's not how it worked in the original. I know, the always run "exploit" existed, but I don't know anyone who used it.
>turn off that annoying bassy shit
>play remastered Doom music over it
>game is better
wew mick
>>342026265
>>342026395
The fuck are you idiots talking about? Shift was sprint in the original Doom.
>>342026292
It's also way too easy to get them into a glory killable state
>>342026627
Doom has a toggle for sprint which everyone who ever played it has enabled meaning normal movement is sprint and shift makes you walk
>>342025986
Nah, I make my money through pornography. Would be nice to get paid for coming here though.
>>342026627
The "source port faggot" guy was trying to quote the other guy I'm assuming.
>>342026765
This guy.
No, no it didn't. That's a sourceport feature. The originals had a bug where if you set a certain option to a certain value it would make you always run, but it wasn't a toggle.
>>342026487
The voting system on Reddit is pretty shit too. Say something that displeases some people, enjoy your downvotes. Enough downvotes and your posting privileges are restricted. I had to create a new account after saying that Aonuma is a hack because I upset so many people.
>>342026947
I dont remember if it was a toggle or not I just know it was possible to do that
Point stands
>>342026765
Doom sprint wasn't toggle unless you messed with the config file utilizing a god damn joystick config option.
>>342021530
>New thing comes out
>Either A:People like it and want to discuss the new good thing or B: Its shill
>You don't like new thing
>therefore its shill.
10/10 logic there retard.
>>342027158
Except your point was
>everyone who ever played it has enabled
which is ridiculous.
>>342027276
There are like 2 people on this board who have ever played doom before source ports
So point stands
>>342025609
Muh contrarian meme, am I a contrarian if I like classic Doom but not this one? Because I'm pretty sure everybody loves classic Doom.
>>342024370
lmfao how new can you get ?
>>342019643
How shitty is your education or experience that you can't fill out an application? Let me guess, 19 years of vidya isn't a great opener? Get fucked, NEET.
>>342027141
It's not great, yeah. That's why I mix so much shit overall.
I do like how the most /v/-ish angry shitposts get downvoted to fuck. Even get told to go back to here, which I find fucking hilarious.
>>342027158
>Point stands
Not really, because you basically said that it was a default on Doom, or that everyone played that way. Nowhere close to truth, in my experience.
>>342027410
No.
>>342027516
>No.
Yes
>>342027410
But you were just told why your point doesn't stand
>>342025786
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXLHylHr1FE
>>342026487
I found there were times I wanted to move faster is all. Could be because I was replaying a bunch of old shooters right before I tried the demo.
>>342027458
Nope. I'm not implying that everyone who holds an opinion is a contrarian, but /v/ is undeniably a place where people go to be contrarian. You can't always tell, but anything that gets too popular is eventually shit on a lot regardless of actual quality. And then you have times like some years ago when a bunch of "Zelda II is best Zelda!" people just showed up out of nowhere, sang its praises, and called everything else shit, and then quietly faded aware. People used to do that with FF VI as well, but too many people have sang its praises now, so now FF V is the new favorite.
>>342024175
>>342023943
>"I will never pay full price for a game because people who do are stupid or rich assholes or both."
>"I'll just pirate it or wait 10 years to play it when its 2 cents and comes with all the DLC and there is barely any/zero money going to the developers anymore."
>He does it
>The game makers lose revenue, even if its a good one.
You're the reason why good games nowa days are either 8 hour long indie shit or get spammed to hell.
>>342024341
They're gonna remove the 2 weapon limit and bring hell style rooms to SnapMap, so here's me hoping we will at least get some fun levels from that
>>342027880
>t /v/ is undeniably a place where people go to be contrarian
nah, it's just the only place where the lowest common denominator pleb tier opinions aren't held but for some reason a vocal minority of redditors and viral marketers can't handle that
>>342028083
i buy good games, I don't buy shit like nudoom and I won't buy it at any price. even free seems like it's not worth it as it's still costing me time
>>342025621
Then use a glory kill.
>get to hell
>hell looks demonic but most of the demons just look like ayys
>>342028251
Well then thats just a matter of your own shitty opinion and it'd be a waste of time going any further.
Pay for games you like god damnit
>>342027880
>I saw somebody arguing that Invisible War was the best DE and telling everyone who liked the original or HR to go back to lebbit
>he did this for over an hour
Gookmoot should honestly just pull the plug on this site.
>>342015167
Well, the MP is shit and nobody is going to talk about a single player experience over and over.
And since it's pretty unanimous that it's good, nobody is shit posting about it, which is the only other thing that gets posted on this board.
The game's fun but I can't call it DOOM for the life of me, most of the time you're in an arena with a locked door on the other side and demons spawning around you instead of just being placed around levels. The music also doesn't really sound like Doom besides little bits of it.
>>342023290
>not even attempting to select the difficulty
How casual are you
>hiding good controls behind fucking unlockable runes
>map design that is inconsistant with backtracking
>awful AWWWWWWFUL bossfights
>mostly meh tier upgrades and runes
>all guns function better when you hold left click
>easy as fuck secrets
>there were like 4 different types of levels, mars, interior, hell, and that one good frozen level
It was still fun and I enjoyed it.
>>342026292
Difficulty doesn't increase enemy health
>>342029262
Don't forget that there are points of no return every 5 minutes.
They really should lower the area of explosives when you shoot a rocket or barrel, like it should be big for enemies but not as big for the player.
That one self damage upgrade is pretty much required to play this game.
>>342029174
This is true.
I like the music, and I can call it Doom just fine, but it definitely lacks demons just hanging in the levels.
>>342029262
The bossfights were neat, and I thought some secrets could be tricky to find (bar that map upgrade shit). Don't know what you're talking about with the left click thing.
Otherwise, yeah. Like you, I still enjoyed it tho
>>342029554
>The bossfights were neat
that's just it, they were neat.
But you knew no one on the team understood the basics for boss fights.Those BFG picks up just scream them giving up
>>342029262
>hiding good controls behind fucking unlockable runes
The only one that bothered me was the fucking mid air control. That shit needs to be standard and brought into MP too. Every other rune unlock was pointless or just "oh, that's neat."
>map design that is inconsistant with backtracking
If there wasn't button and keycard backtracking the DOOM autists would scream even louder
>awful AWWWWWWFUL bossfights
I'd argue it had the best bossfights in any FPS I've ever played. Unless you just cheesed them with the BFG. BFG shouldn't work on bosses in this game.
>mostly meh tier upgrades and runes
Upgrades were fucking awesome, what are you on about? Unlimited AR rockets, turning your minigun into a fucking turret, the stuns on the Plasma rifle, the Gauss siege mode, one extra shot on your super shotty, and pretty much everything else was amazing. Runes were meh as fuck though.
>easy as fuck secrets
definitely. They ranged from blatant as fuck to the very rare how would you figure this out without a guide.
>there were like 4 different types of levels, mars, interior, hell, and that one good frozen level
What else could they have done? It's a base on mars and hell.
>>342015167
>game isn't cracked
>nobody on /v/ plays it or talks about it
Not surprised.
>>342029915
>If there wasn't button and keycard backtracking the DOOM autists would scream even louder
He doesn't mean this. He meants backtracking for optional stuff. Sometimes you get past points of no return with no warning. Mostly in the later levels though, not very common IIRC.
What was the point of that secret blipper thing?
It only went off if I was already in the room with the secret.
>>342019023
>HUGE FAT COCKS
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source on image pls.
>>342030247
>He meants backtracking for optional stuff. Sometimes you get past points of no return with no warning
Ah, my b.
The sealing bulkheads locking you out of half the map is definitely my biggest complaint. That shit was dumb.
>>342030089
>you are le fat LOL you le wrong
ok come back in 9 year when it's actually legal for you to post, kid
>check map
>see a secret room but the entrance isn't open
>whatever I'll just come back later and see if something opened it
>walk into the next room
>door closes behind me and won't open again
What fucking asshole designed these maps
Can I throw something out there?
The Glory Kills are actually a legitimately good mechanic, and more, integral to the reason why this game is so good.
Follow me on this one:
There's basically two primary methods of health management in FPSes, right?
Health Packs
Regenerating Health.
They both have a fatal flaw though, and that is they both force the player to disengage with the enemy, completely breaking momentum to restore health.
Glory kills drop health, AND, Glory Kills only happen after you've been attacking a given monster, meaning, attacking the enemy is a legitimate way to restore health, making health management and killing monsters one and the same action, so you never have to break momentum for any reason. That's huge.
Further, the stronger weapons can blow weaker enemies away without the chance for a glory kill, meaning strategically minded players who need a quick health boost later in the game can still get use out of the weaker weapons, which addresses one of Doom 1 and 2's greatest weaknesses
>>342031258
Everyone who's played the game realized this pretty quickly.
The only people spewing the GLORY KILLS SLOW DOWN THE GAME shit are butthurt pirates.
>>342031258
Yeah, I agree with this.
>>342016119
>>342019679
>>342025986
Fuck off with this dead meme.
>>342031258
Glory kills are way too easy to pull off to be "engaging"
>>342015545
>I can't accept that even older /v/ browsers would like a reboot so I must label them something to feel better about it.
This is how most people sound when they say Neo /v/.
>>342030463
Not talking shit because fat. Talking shit because you don't understand how shooters work.
>see enemy
>press button or two
>win
This dumb logic can be applied to any game.
>>342015167
Can we talk about DOOM multiplayer? I was thinking of this the other day and I think that people don't like the new DOOM not because of it's flaws, but at it's core it's drawing from the team deathmatch arena shooter from the 90's and pretty heavily. I think people don't enjoy those types of games anymore and go for more squad based methodical shooters which is a shame because there is a lot of fun to be had in the DOOM multiplayer.
This is what worries me, with the new Quake coming out how much of the original inspiration will they have to sacrifice to maintain relevancy in the fps market. I just don't see a new Quake sweeping the market like it did back then because for the most part people have move on, and not only that are way more casual at fps than they are now. People will cry for nerfs with rocket jumping and the speed that you can attain in quake, it will alienate a lot of players. So in my mind they will have to change a lot of things about it to make it more modern. Maybe some hero BS or some other modern design philosophy. What are your thoughts on the problem ID is going to have moving forward?
>>342019857
>true fans
>>342031701
>>342031258
>Glory kills drop health, AND, Glory Kills only happen after you've been attacking a given monster, meaning, attacking the enemy is a legitimate way to restore health
NO Because they restore too much health.
>>342031956
the MP isn't necessarily bad, it just isn't DOOM. It's Halo. And nobody liked Halo MP.
>>342031701
glory kills get better when you use them as a travel mechanic with the distance ruin.
Really they should have built the game around most of these upgrades because they're clearly more fun than the base game.
>pick up health and armor
>that shit goes away immediately in the next fight because everything does like 80 damage
>litterally no point in picking that stuff up when you have the right upgrades
>getting a supercharge 200 armor health thing is underwhelming as fuck
>>342032085
Except at it's core it fundamentally is an arena shooter with pick ups and power weapons. The armor system is kinda like halo I guess and the loadout shit sucks but other than that it's a watered down quake.
>>342015353
NEDM?
>>342032085
>And nobody liked Halo MP.
>>342029262
the boss fights weren't that bad
>>342032085
>And nobody liked Halo MP
>>342032085
>It's Halo. And nobody liked Halo MP.
What's the point of glory killing the cyberdemon? What happens if you don't?
>mfw when I can't run new DOOM so had th settle for doom 3
Doom 3 keeps me perma scared because it throw enemies behind you all the fucking time. There better be some open areas too the dark lighting is really pissing me off.
>>342032081
Stop being close to death all the time.
>>342032569
>pick ups and power weapons
Which don't matter, because the maps are so open and big and everyone just uses the CHARGE up SCOPED SNIPER RIFLE.
Also Demon runes are completely retarded and guarantee even the biggest shitter a 10 kill streak, and nobody can fight over them because the respawn isn't announced until 3 seconds in.
The game is Halo in everything but name.It was made by the Halo 4 developers.
>>342019098
>they don't take long at all
>you can upgrade it to make them even faster
>>342033513
The vortex rifle is a joke honestly. What you should be complaining about is double equipping the shotguns and between each shot pressing Q to skip the reload animation for the combat and supershotgun. That's how I have a 3.5 kd with like 2k kills.
I agree about the demon runes, it needs to announce 30 seconds so it's a point of contention to fight over.
Glory kills only feel good to me in mp because players don't stagger for a billion years
>>342033691
>upgrade system
>in a doom game
>>342032085
>nobody liked Halo MP
>>342034096
Upgrade systems are the way of the future :^)
>>342034096
They had to bring DOOM into the modern era, they had been trying since wolfenstein RTCW and DOOM 3 but the finally succeeded with DOOM and the new wolfenstein and old blood.
>>342034113
>>342033306
>>342033091
>>342032753
samefag desu
>>342032085
>And nobody liked Halo MP.
>>342035159
*nobody with taste
>>342035218
*Nobody with a SHIT taste
But OP, Doom was fucking great. Thats the way of single player games, once they're done, thats it.
Sucks that the multiplayer will die off soon and snapmap wont survive due to its own technical limitations.
Also for those living under a rock, daily reminder that Polygon is shit at games other than Her Story or Gone Homo.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0_4v90NiZn4
>Fall for the hype and get doom on xbone
>Questionable level design
>No way to turn off the instant-kill moves
>Certain levels shit ammo at you and others barely give you any, no sense of balance
>Poorly hidden secrets
>No reason to make custom levels since nobody ever bothers playing custom maps
>Finisher moves in multiplayer for no reason as if they just ripped it from halo 4
>Boss fights that just get more health on higher difficulty
It's alright, fast paced but mediocre in every other aspect. Doom 1 and 2 are better.
It's simple anon
I can't talk about it
>>342036105
contrarian rreeeeeeeee
It was pretty good.
It's a DX:HR situation - I mean, you've got outlying opinions either way, but general consensus is that the game was pretty good.
>>342036105
Doom 2 fucking sucked.
>playing it on PS4
>bash, glorry kill, and interact are all the same button
What the fuck? Is it different on PC?
>>342036640
>Doom 2 fucking sucked
This is a bad meme.
Doom 2016 is a novelty. It reminded an enture generation what games used to be while simultaneously showing them what it could be, and managing to somehow be decent overall too. It was far from perfect but what it did had enough reason behind it, like how the obtrusive break from action glory kills at least had a functional purpose of increasing health drops. It also reeks of care, one of the only things we can still wring out of the industry sometimes. I'm glad it exists but don't really like it.
>>342036984
Saying that Doom 4 had questionable level design then unequivocally praising Doom 2's infamous "bunch of box buildings shit out over a flat plane" approach doesn't inspire confidence in anyone's opinion.
>>342015167
>>/v/ says game will be bad
>>It's bad
>>Doesn't get talked about again
I don't see the problem here.
>>342037212
Doom 2 negatives
- level design
Doom 2 positives
- everything else
nu-d44m negatives
- literally everything there is nothing positive to say about this shit
>>342030290
It's Spaced you fucking idiot
>>342037212
He didn't say that Doom 2 has good level design
>>342037453
>everything else
You mean "Doom 1's assets" since it just wholesale reused everything from the first game.
Doom 2 isn't a sequel, it's an expansion thrown together by the worthless modders they hired off their own forums. It, Ultimate Doom, and Master Levels for Doom 2 are the Shadow Warrior: Twin Dragons of Doom, just there to cash in on the brand name while the actual team went and worked on Quake.
>>342037453
>- literally everything there is nothing positive to say about this shit
Care to elaborate, Anon?
I finished the single player campaign last night.
I suppose we're going to get a Hell on Earth sequel, right?
I don't know what they'll do for enemies. They already used everyone in this game.
>>342037212
Doom 2's level design sucked compared to 1 but it's still a hell of a lot better than Doom 4's locked arenas, effortless secrets and points of no return
>>342038191
You should stop parroting shit you read on /vr/ or /v/
Good news. DOOM finally cracked.
you might get a ctd after 40 or 50 minutes of play. But its playable.
>>342038392
No. This game is fucking shit until I get to play it for free.
Then I'll make threads trying to talk about it long after people have stopped caring.
>>342038392
Jesus christ, that shameless denial
>>342038018
They could always recycle some of the enemies from DOOM 3.
>buy d44m because fell for the memes
>found it at 30 bucks on a key site
>lots of fun with the game
>wonder when there will be more enemies on the screen
>never fight more than a handful, finish game
>go to snapmap
>limit on demons
>per map
>and per spawn
>you will never fight more than 10 enemies at the same time
truly regret the purchase. I feel like a fucking moron for falling again for a bethesda-published game. this fucking company can go straight to hell right next to ubisoft, EA and activision.
>>342037827
still better than nudoom
>>342038480
nice falseflag but the only reason people will be pirating it is just to experience how truly shit it is. kinda like when you watch an awful 1/10 movie, like any of the marvel avengers flicks, just to experience how bad media can be
>>342038392
Fuck off
Man I fucking love the multi, I don't understand why people hate it.
>>342038674
Just stick to Serious Sam then.
>>342016036
You can IGNORE glory kills and just shoot the bad guys.
Of course, if you do that you'll miss the opportunity for a health drop when you need it.
If you can't see why that's good game design then you're not worth anyone's breath.
>>342039402
What about the challenges that require you to glory kill?
>>342039029
If "it's fucking Halo, and they outsourced it to the Halo guys" isn't enough, you never will.
>>342038459
At this point I'm not even sure if I want it.
It's just going to be painkiller with brootal memes I'm sure
If you don't know what this is a reference to, you need to leave this thread immediately.
>>342039943
Hanging Harry
>>342039198
t. underaged who never played original doom
>>342015167
>>Doesn't get talked about again+ 0 post omitted.
This is the key aspect of the paid Bethesda marketers on /v/. They shill a game but forget to keep up the momentum after launch.
To be fair the multiplayer is still dogshit and Snapmap isn't very good.
>>342038018
Just take the Doom 2 approach. Use the same enemies and come up with a few new ones. They should focus the majority of their energy by making better level design, story, and adding more boss fights.
Also, there's this fucker from the early Doom 4 alpha. I wanna see him as an enemy.
>>342039943
Private Blunt?
>>342017659
>loadouts
>shotguns being the only good weapons
>retarded demon transformations
>>342039943
Commandant Ken?
>>342015167
>>It's good
It really isn't. It's a 3-4/10 game at best. It's a boring, easy game which does not have any high points and has game mechanics that simply don't work.
Cacodemon is cute. Cute!
posting even though I'll be ignored
I played this game last night and I felt like it was too easy.
The enemies do a whole lot of fucking around, not attacking you, waiting to be attacked. Can the first zombie type even do anything offensive? I just have to keep attacking and they can't fight back.
>enemies waste time being idle
>many enemies can't attack before they die, even if they live for several seconds
>no enemies with bullet guns (hitscan), meaning you don't have to worry
>"flinching," which merely interrupted an attack in the old Doom, now takes about an entire second to finish, meaning enemies aren't very threatening
>all this combined with glory kills makes the game easy and boring in my opinion
In the original Doom, enemies were actually a threat and you had to worry about them. I didn't have to worry much at all in this game. Also there's no enemies with hitscan weapons, which played an important part in the threat level in the old games. Now I don't have to do anything except circle and shoot and melee for free health, repeatedly. And it seems like they don't even fight back. In the OG Doom you had to have a strategy if you wanted to survive, it's more than just running around. I feel like the creators of the new Doom based it off of
>brutal doom
>"rip and tear!"
>"epic" feel
and less on the actual Doom game
Enemies spend a whole lot of time fucking around, not attacking you, waiting to die. I didn't die my entire play, and I beat like 2 levels. Glory kills ruin the game imo. They were cool at first but now I don't really like them. It's not just their fault, it's everything together.I WAS playing on Hurt Me Plenty though, because my friend chose the difficulty
also
>I don't feel like I have a grasp of the level (a combination of the limited color palette, generic samey enemies, and modern geometry probably)
>the guns don't feel as good or as cool as the old guns
>20 shell limit
>shotgun sucks compared to the old doom shotgun
>>342015167
Because it didn't sell well.
Denuvo, horrible multiplayer open beta, and the lack of a demo until E3 week, something that should have been there from the beginning in most games, which only shows the 1st level which isn't very indicative of the full game.
If it's on sale during the steam sale you'll probably get some chatter, otherwise don't expect it to pop up very often.
It's just another great game that will fly under the radar.
>Waiting for it to get cheaper on g2a
>It actually gets more expensive now
I aint paying more than 25 dollars for a game Im only gonna play the SP of
>>342041101
shot out his eyes and watched him cry like a bitch until he exploded
I blame Denuvo. I tried the demo on Steam and it seems cool, but the price here inBrazilis fucking absurd so I'll only buy it when it's like 75% off at least.
How come /v/ hates Gears of War when it's tps Doom? It even has a supershooty
>>342016036
Original doom you didn't even have to aim at all
>>342041264
Enjoy waiting
What's wrong with the moving in this game? You either move at a crawl, or at full speed. There's no in between, even with the analog stick. Why?
>>342041986
Because DOOM is about being fast and dodging projectiles, not ducking down behind waist high walls.
>>342031258
personally I just find gibbing an enemy with the super shotgun to be a more effective way of getting health.
glory kills are just an open invitation to get fucked in the ass when they finish by that monster that spawned behind you
>>342015167
>OP mistakes /v/ talking about the MP beta being shit as the entire game being shit
Id didn't do it any justice when they were marketing it. It was a fucking shitshow.
>>342023314
I haven't dare tried yet lol
I'm building a workstation that should run it, my question is will DOOM use more than one core? I have 8 of them
>>342032081
dat fencer's reflex
>/v/ says the game is so great, amazing
>turns out it's mediocre and derivative as fuck
>>342032081
They restore 30 at best and that's when you're practically already dead.
Anytime you're over 55 health, it gives you fucking 5 health, which is nothing.
>>342042358
So? The gameplay is still as satisfying as doom.
Also if you're a good gears player you're not going to spend a lot of time on cover, you're going to spend it on blowing enemies faces with a shotgun or performing a "glory kill"
Lancers are for wusses.
>>342041223
I agree on some of your points regarding the difficulty, when I finished the game on Nightmare I was wishing for a difficulty without enemies being staggered, unable to attack. That said, fuck hitscan enemies, there's great satisfaction in being good enough to finish a fight unscathed and hitscan enemies just fuck with that, which is one of the things I disliked about Wolfenstein TNO.
>>342043040
The very fact that the movement is stifled and the game is slower makes the gameplay less satisfying than Doom.
It's like trying to compare Devil May Cry to God of War, DMC is far superior.
>>342042698
Oh fuck that game, it borrows all the boring, bland elements of the Assassin's Creed games. The only thing that's enjoyable is the whole enemy rank system, and that implies ignoring the main missions.
>>342043040
In the first Gears you didn't have to spend a ton of time in cover, but in 2 and ESPECIALLY 3, being out of cover on higher difficulties will get you killed nearly instantly.
Unless you're just talking about multiplayer like a faggot.
>>342031673
fuck off and play games once in awhile you bitter cuntface
>>342015167
The MP is incredibly generic and dull whcih is a horrible shame for an iD game, but the SP is one of the best FPS SP campaigns in a long while. Certainly on par or even better than TNO.
>>342015545
>we neo-/v/irgins need to be bitter to look like oldfags
haha,relax nigga and stop being a sheep
>>342016036
og doom was easy af, excluding the last boss
>>342020147
dead on arrival, fun with friends i guess
>>342023515
The demo is amazing to me because they showcased the levels in which their shitty systems work even worse than they normally do (e.g. it's clear the skatepark bullshit is slightly more bearable when you have more than a shitty shotgun and a shitty pistol)
>>342025609It's because they released a demo and surprise it's bad
>>342031258
>The Glory Kills are actually a legitimately good mechanic
No fucking way. As a mechanic, glory kills are as bad or even possibly worse than health regeneration.
On actually hard difficulties, doing a glory kill in an open area is tantamount to suicide. This means if you want to heal off a glory kill, you need to isolate a monster and execute it. This often involves finding cover and getting your kill there. What does this remind you of? That's right, health regeneration with additional annoyances added: you need to wait for a monster, sometimes you need to do it several times to reach a satisfactory level of health, and it forces you into a boring, repetitive animation every time you do it.
It also has several nasty side effects. In my playthrough, I needed to be point blank in order to one-shot zombies (i.e. trash mobs) with the shotgun. I'd be willing to bet this is due to the glory kill mechanic, because if not for it, the whole range where a shotgun shot puts them in the "finish him" state would be unnecessary. They're also the reason the chainsaw is a mess in this game.
I'll even go as far as saying health regeneration would actually be better in this game than the glory kill mechanic. One of the main issues with health regeneration is how much it rewards hiding behind cover. In DooIV! though, the demons hunt you through the ~skatepark~ and thus make this tactic much weaker than in games like CoD (at least that's what they were going for; there is no real threat to the player once he masters the trick of using W to move)
>>342043382
The gameplay for dmc and gow are both as satisfying in their own ways, they have drastic different style while doom and gears can fit in the same universe just fine.
Yeah its slower depending how good you are but its brutal just as doom interms of gameplay, violence and aesthetically similar, so I don't see why gears gets so much hate and doom doesnt .
Is speed really all that it is?
Cause it sure as hell isn't for the story for either.
>>342043474
I was talking about multiplayer but you're right on SP.
>faggot
Rude
>>342025609
Human Revolution was mediocre though. Detroit was fucking fantastic, China was kinda shit, Paris was really shit.
>>342023515
the mp is literally same as in quakelive
If you wanted a Doom reboot and you were disappointed with this then you didn't want a Doom reboot.
Equally Doom is 23-years-old and it has aged like dog shit. So if you wanted a reboot you were an idiot.
>>342015167
It's not good though
>>342023621
>playing doom on console
kys
>>342028251
you sound 2salty
>>342043889
I don't even see where you think they have anything in common. Just having gore isn't enough to make me enjoy something.
>>342029174
lot's of arena like fights in 1 & 2 dood
holy shit, i just beat this.
holy shit guys
>>342015167
went back and played original doom
it was much more fun
level design was much more inspired and enemies actually felt dangerous
to be fair, I only played the doom demo, so I don't know if it gets any better later on
>>342034096
modern games just feel empty without em
>>342044168
>Doom is 23-years-old and it has aged like dog shit
>>342044661
you can solve this problem by making the core skills fun to use
>>342037453
you sound like a salty bitch, get out
>>342040184
og doom rarely had parts with more than 10 monsters or you just suck at shooting them
>>342015167
all it has is single player and instead of fixing multiplayer they are just damage controling it, we are not getting new singleplayer content or weapons so the game will never be better.
guys can we quit arguing for one second because i have some questions about the game
are we getting a sequel? because that was totally a cliffhanger at the end. and we don't know jack shit about those wraiths or those glowy soldier dudes in the last level, or why doomguy saved vega's backup data. lordy.
>>342039943
Comanche Kyle
>>342044701
still, doom reboot is not gonna be better than this game, once again /v/ is expecting perfection from industry that's best products nowadays are mediocre games, get real /v/
>>342045949
A big problem with this industry is that its mediocre games are celebrated as masterpieces.
>>342046439
Like last of us?
>>342042698
I liked SoM. Wasn't expecting much but that rivalry system, while gimmicky as hell, was a lot of fun. A lot of games are open world snoozefests, SoM was fairly fresh even if it did rip off AC/Batman
>>342015167
It is a relatively short single player shooter.
There is nothing to talk about, least of all the retarded MP.
So what do you expect exactly?
>>342023156
But unlike CoD multiple replays are still fun.
>>342046912
it didn't feel fresh with that shittier Bam Ham combat, yes the nemesis system was nice but not enough to make it stand out, especially due to how it had a very big focus on combat
>>342039943
Why have they not got these things on sale yet
Are they waiting for Christmas or something
>>342023943
I don't really bother playing games I don't pay for, I need that guilt of paying for it to actually play it nowadays
>>342025786
that voice is so fucking annoying, they should've just used pitch swifter like rappers do
>>342015167
SHILL
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go get your multiplayer m8 elsewhere.
>>342046439
>are celebrated as masterpieces.
by talentless hacks called game journalists
just try to find something enjoyable and stop being so bitter, bitterness just makes you not enjoy anything
>>342016180
Nah, it's too slow compared to the campaign. What makes the campaign great is the nonstop action, the mp is just trying to stop the bullet sponge demon.
>>342015167
DoomVier is boring tbqh
Never through the campaign have I felt a rush
its okay
>>342041223
Your ammo reserves go up significantly as you play, and the enemies milling around doing fuck all tends to be a thing at the lower difficulties. ITYTD you should be able to complete without a single death without any difficulty, HMP can give you some trouble in bigger arenas or bossfights but the first two levels would still be pretty trivial, UV is where someone who's good at FPS will start to encounter serious challenge.
You can actually play Nightmare mode right from the start, only Ultra Nightmare requires completing the game once to unlock.
>>342049298
If only, but the mainstream audience also celebrates them, along with people who play a vast array of games and who ought to know better.
Still, my low opinion of the game industry does not prevent me from enjoying games that are good.
>>342019565
on high difficulty (nightmare) Glory kills are essential by design, since enemy projectiles are way quicker than in the original Doom and hey inflict extreme damage. You also move slower than in the original game so going melee isn't a choice at some point, the game forces you to move all the time but you are still going to take some damage.
Ironically, Imps are one of the most dangerous enemies in Nigthmare
d00d
>>342018369
All my friends are normies and the reason they didn't buy it is because the MP didn't look good.
The fact is that single player fps are not something the mass market wants, thanks to CoD the SP is seen as little more than a extended tutorial for you to understand how the game works before you jump into the MP
>>342019857
>true fans
you mean poorfags pirates
>kill a demon
>literally turns into a pile of ammo and health shards
LOL, no thanks, I don't play games designed for nu-males and cucks.
>>342023143
it will, and should play it very well in Ultra with pretty much everything.
>>342023290
it's red but Ultra-Nightmare is in red too with lock.... that should have ring a bell, seriously
>>342015167
Doom is the pinnacle of how to appropriately modernize a game series while also still retaining all it's original themes and flavor. Yes---Doom 2k16 is not Doom. It is better in someways--length of campaign, customization/upgradable suit allows for variations of game-play strategy, good gallows humor, looks fantastic on PC with a blistering fast framerate. Similar in some regards--fast paced (for their respective times) demonic FPS, gore. And worse in a few--mostly multiplayer.
I give nuDOOM 8/10. Campaign is about perfect for a modern FPS, multiplayer is forgettable and bland but functional and snapmap has some great promise. Keep in mind, this is coming from someone who played Doom 2 on release and still has an external HDD full of WAD files.
>inb4 shill
Nah son. I have a career/full time job. I am just stating my anecdote with Doom 2k16. Sorry for the triggering, nerds.
>>342050896
I bought a Pentium 90Mhz in 1995 so I could play Doom and Doom2 properly.
I agree with you, the new Doom is best surprise I've had in years when it comes to fps
>>342050758
Sauce?
>>342050896
You type like an ultra faggot
Just finished on ultra violence.
> was fun
> last boss was kinda easy
> kill room mechanic was overplayed
> overall 8/10
I liked elements from the previous gameslike icon of sin in one of the levels, or one arena built like 'Dead Simple'
>>342029174
Better than the shitpile doom 3 where every enemy is either in a wall closest just barely big enough to hold it or teleports right behind you.
>>342029262
>calling the boss fights awful
>in a series where the boss fights are "circle strafe and fire rockets till it dies", "ride a pillar and fire rockets till it dies", and "kill imps to use the mcguffin on the boss till it dies".
>other modern shooters don't even have bosses 9 times outta 10, at most having a "press x to cutsceen" when you walk up to the guy
>>342051586
>kill room mechanic was overplayed
The fact that this is the one major criticism being raised everywhere, including games journalism sites, makes me reasonably hopeful about any SP expansions or followups.
Honestly most of the time it seemed unnecessary; places like the ARC just before you meet Dr. Roboto you'd probably stay in the area of your own accord anyway.
>>342051351
No, He types beyond that.
He types like a plus ultra faggot.
>>342052073
>b-but it's good for a modern game
>the first one didn't have good boss fights so this one should keep the tradition
Hardest enemies:
> 1. Pinkies
> 2. Shied guys
> 3. Anything else
Pinkies on an arena rise the difficulty like, two or three times. I don't mind 4 barons at once, but 4 pinkies make me shiver.
>>342052787
pinkies die in like one hit to shotty IIRC
Their weakspot is on the back if you didn't know.
>>342052606
>i-i-i-its bad becuz pepol liek it Q_Q
>>342053165
I know. But it's kind of hard to kill them this way if there are 2 of them after your arse, with tons of other meat trying to kill you off as well. As it usually happens in the later stages of the game. And since pinky AI is so aggresive, it is difficult to isolate them.
>>342053306
And your "hurr its bad becuz" isn't an argument, fucknut.
>>342037453
I'd say arch-viles were annoying as hell, but thats the charm of them.
The super-shotgun was just to versatile and nullified the need for any other weapon in my expierence.
>>342053458
well, i agree with the sentiment that bosses aren't a must in doom, but doom4 still loses because of its level design. it's a more close-knit serious sam, not doom. doom is labriynths, respawning enemies and speed. doom4 has little of all of those. maybe speed, because i liked that they included verticality, but no hitscans and enemies taking "strategic positions" easily combat that
>>342015167
>Jews on this board shill the game saying how great it is
>Start shilling again just in time for DLC
THIS BOARD IS ABSOLUTELY INFESTED
>all this glory kill talk
Do you guys realize that you get HEALTH PICK UPS when you kill an enemy while on low health regardless of using a glory kill?
>>342053458
Kay.
Lets take the cyberdemon.
His attack is a laser that follows you or it leads infront of you. The laser randomly changes if it's infront or behind you on a whim and can sometimes fake you out. This would be fine if there was time to react to that, but if it's in the air or you don't have the right runes you have no way of reacting to that
His other ability, the hop scotch thing would be fine if it started off slowly and he threw it out like a basic attack at the beginning of the fight. Instead it's jump over then don't jump then jump over. There is no build up so the mechanic becomes known immediately and gets tiresome after the second time he does it.
That's another problem about these boss fights, they all use tiresome pattern that doesn't change as the fight progresses. The best way to build a boss fight is to have it climax with the difficulty and then go downhill when the player is succeeding. If you don't do this you get boss fights where you use "ability X" and then attack their weak spot.
Oh and just a side note, I found it dissapointing how none of the bosses had a fun little gimmick outside of "deal a shit ton of damage to them to stun them". It would have been cool for the spider guy to have his mines be something you can throw back at him, or having a berserk powerup show up and you can punch them back like northstar.
Boss fights just felt generic.
>>342015167
>Doom reboot is actually good guys!
I hope this meme ends soon.
I'm too upset to laugh it off.
>>342054149
it just reeks of western action game boss design to be honest.
literally all the bad things of zelda bosses copied
>>342015545
Essentially this.
>>342019905
Every time it starts to, a reply chain just ends.
It's never funny when someone actually knows what they're talking about, or are honest about their preferences.
Every installment.
>>342016036
summer kid go away
>>342054568
What if people scream nigger constantly but have consistant and well thought out opinions that are sprinkled with retardation?
>>342015167
there's a reason people dont talk about it
it's mediocre as fuck
>>342054640
While /v/ can appreciate a good racer, we mostly aren't huge car fans, and Forza just bringing too little in the other departments.
So why is it that d44m is the game being met with such intense, "NO, you absolutely are not allowed to like this game?"
>>342054704
Sure, we could give it a shot.
Tuesday at 8?
>>342054874
That's true.
/v/ does talk about Assetto Corsa occasionally.
>>342054940
you can like it
if you come to /v/ and base your fun on it then you've already lost
just don't expect concurrent opinions
>>342015545
Your idiotic point was lost to greentext autism. Game was great and no amount of butthurt cuck related stupidity can take that away.
>>342016331
Dead/dying? MP playerbases that large aren't dead.
>>342055608
So it just looks awful, and none of the reviewers are able to explain how it's good because they suck?
>>342023943
>30 dollars
>life time of regret.
How awful do you have to be, both mentally and economically, to regret losing $30 for more than a day.
>there will never be an ability that lets you capture the power ups and use them whenever you want
Just make them rarer, they give them out in like every arena, sometimes even two of the fuckers.
>>342052787
It wasn't until the end of my third playthrough... on nightmare that I realized pinkies are vulnerable in the back. If you are shooting them in the front. 4-6 supershotty shells won't kill them. In the back 1-2 is enough.
I remember saying it will be Halo when we saw the gameplay at E3, and I was right.
It's not shit, but it's certainly nothing to write home about.
>>342015167
there was literally NO reason to think this game would be good you retarded faggot
>>342043621
It was what I wanted TNO to be. All action with a barebones plot that's just there to string things together.
TNO tried too hard to be "deep" and just ended up being stupid.
>>342056175
It's not the money,
It's knowing that you got suckered.
>>342056519
Not the other poster, but i feel like TNO expanded on wolfenstein formula better than D44m did on doom's.
If i had to be more expressive, i'd say that TNO tickles the exploration motive more than Doom4, AND it derives more from the original idea, than 3rd party mods. Sure brutal doom is what most of kids nowadays associate doom with, but if you forget semi-open levels then it's not worth it.
Doom4 is OKAY but its only really similar to classic Doom on the surface layer
like sure it has all of the superficial things that make up Doom but when you actually pick apart all the details you realize everything from the enemy and level design to the entire flow of combat is just completely different
>>342056412
>I remember saying it will be Halo when we saw the gameplay at E3, and I was right.
Yeah, I remember in Halo 5 when I could wield 8 weapons and Master Chief tore a alien in half after blasting him with his rocket launcher without reloading.
>>342015167
>tfw getting oneshot on ultra-nightmare
fucking game feels even better the second time.
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