What am I in for?
>>342001743
Everything is a computer game
Side Kick
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underdeveloped planets which are conveniently exactly like the most generic jrpg locations
>>342001743
Cool setting, apart from that pretty shit desu.
>>342001825
which i think was a hidden religious meaning.gnosticism and a few others outright say our physical world is an illusion, it's not real, and only exists because we observe it. holographic universe theory confirms that.we are in a shitty mmorpg with tons of microtranslations and unfun quests, not to mention character gen is terrible. no sliders or numbers, everything is ran with a random number generator.
SPHERE OF MIGHT
SPHERE OF MIGHT
>>342001743
Pretty fun game if you end up liking the gameplay, a shitload of side content.
God tier dictionary.
Okay characters.
Easily one of my top 3 PS2 JRPGs, even with the tweest.
>>342001948
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>>342001743
A gorillion trophies that you will never all get.
>>342001743
the most retarded plot twist before bigboss was most retarded plot twist
>>342001743
if your a kid this is one of the best games youll ever play, i freaking loved playing it when i was like 11 or 12 but now i dont think i could get into it and id see wayh too many flaws n shiz
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>>342001743
best girl
Horrible voice acting; so bad it's good.
A really good RPG with a very fun, deep and customizable combat system that can offer plenty challenge and has tons of optional side content, a pretty deep item creation system, solid enjoyable characters with strong voice acting and a plot that begins very strong and poses interesting moral questions that you want to see develop.Then at a point near the end the plot shits the bed with a twist that ruins a ton of buildup and intrigue and tosses most of the potential for something completely different that it doesn't do well at all.
The combat's still fun enough to carry it through to the end though, and the post game has an insane amount of extra stuff to do. Also difficulty levels and optional characters/endings for replayability on top of that.
>>342001743
A "spam 1-2 skills in all the fights" battles
It's hilarious when people think SO can compare to Tales battle system
>>342001743
>ninja lesbians
>the second one is plot important
>doesn't actually join your team
>get her father out of nowhere
>he's not actually any good
>spamming the same 3 or 4 moves over and over until victory
>awful plot
>good music
>scene edgelord faggot Abel who looks like he listens to lots of Blood on the Dance Floor
>>342006362
>a pretty deep item creation system
Wasn't that just doing a dumb mini game and save scumming because of RNG bullshit and getting items you needed was a giant, time-consuming pain in the ass that was impossible without a guide?
>>342006621
how the fuck is tales any different?
>>342007076
Yes.
>>342001825
Le ebin spoilerino xD! Good going my friend, really doing good, keep it up friend :^)!!!!
zzzz I wonder if people feel good about spoiling shit, I never really got the point of spoiling besides being a cunt that is.
>>342007329
Did you not read the post?
You don't spam 1 or 2 artes in Tales combat at all.
SO's combat is literally relying on spamming whatever best skill you currently possess.
>>342001948
>>342003192
>>342007329
basically everything from vesperia onward has had a better battle system
i mean unless you're playing on easy/normal
>>342001825
man wtf what's the point of playing anymore, fuck this
>>342007076
Not really, you didn't need to savescum, if you get the right inventors and have it set up right you can tell what they're going to make based on how much it costs. Most of it is finding and setting up the inventors. It takes some time but it's cool seeing what you come up with next, and you can do a shitton with weapon synthesis.
>>342001743
SOMETHING THAT SHOULD BE ON PSN ALREADY.
>>342001743
Fun times. A JRPG with a huge amount of content in postgame. Customization is pretty good if you can get around the RNG (which is doable). Most of the characters, save for one or two, have a bunch of builds that are fun.
Combat can be repetitive at times, but that's my only gripe with it. Everything else is solid.
>>342008292
Thing about the combat is that there's so many viable skills that you can change your playstyle entirely whenever you feel like it. It's also nice that they actually really noticably improve as they level.
>relying on skills only
>not giving Cliff Stun on Light Attack and watching him completely immobilize targets
>>342007435
>You don't spam 1 or 2 artes in Tales combat at all
:^)
>>342009136
You don't, you fucking retard
>>342001743
Mediocrity, padding, and thinly veiled plot progression
>>342003192
>god tier dictionary
oh god yes, i spent so many hours just reading that shit
>>342009232
lol he believes this listen kid I've actually played and finished a shitload of tales games. They're all exactly like that.
>>342009893
wow okay then sorry man I believe you now haha xD
Amazing JRPG outside of the plot twist. You'll know it when you get to it.
>>342003192
>>342006362
These guys nailed it.
>>342001743
Pretty fun game.
>>342001743
The combat system is fun but there are some stupid plot decisions by the devs.
>>342005175
>implying
>>342010016
DEMON FANG DEMON FANG DOUBLE DEMON FANG
>>342001743
assuming you understand the battle system, a whole lot of sidekicks
>>342007435
>You don't spam 1 or 2 artes in Tales combat at all.
POW HAMMER
>>342001743
SO2 is much better.
There is also no stupid twist that makes the last 40 hours totaly worthless.
>>342010641
You can't be serious.
Even if I were to spam artes, those 2 are never useful (except maybe from Gaius)
>>342010792
For what reason? To get 9999 uses?
Don't reply to me anymore if you're gonna be idiots.
Roger the best boy
>>342010681Side Kick is overrated.Air Raid/Dimension Door is where it's at.
>>342010609
>the only character that can solo post game bosses in minutes
>>342010956
>For what reason
Are you retarded? Toss hammer and para ball spam breaks the game in symphonia.
Tidal Wave broke Xillia also, spammable infinite full map stunlock.
>Tales fags already in here trying to ruin everyone's good time
I bet they're also the ones that killed the hype for SO5.
>>342009136
I wish it was that easy
>>342010956
Personally I've only played Xillia, but there were a ton of arte combinations with just about every character that were inherently spammable and the only reason I didn't use only them was because I just didn't want to. I liked the hyper armour combo breaking mechanic on the bigger bosses to stop that kind of thing at least, but SO3 has something similar.
>>342011627
SO 5 Killed itself by being 20 hours long,not having any other planets despite being called Star Ocean and bringing negative attention to itself with "censorship".
I was honestly looking forward to it until I found out it's only 20ish hours
>>342011124
its been forever since ive played, but don't you get those around half way through the game assuming you dont grind like crazy.
Fun gameplay
Trainwreck story that sends shockwaves of it's trainwreckness through the rest of the series.
>>342012072
The 20 hours thing came from some guy that didn't even read Japanese so he probably skipped over a bunch of text and didn't talk to anyone in towns. Probably rushed through the game too.
It's definitely short enough to be a flaw but I don't buy the 20 hour crap.
>>342001743
>be a teen
>buy SO3
>love everything about it untill the plot twist
>my young naive mind for the first time realizes that stories can be utter shit
>be so dissapointerd that I sell the game
>years and years later remember the game and how I actually liked the gameplay
>rebuy it
I still haven't tried it yet except for testing that it works. I still had my 60+ hour save too. I'll get to it soon enough. Hopefully I can still like it after loving Tales of combat.
>>342012140
Yeah they're much later on but the way people talk about Side Kick they sound like you should only use that through the whole game. Even before that though I liked Blade of Fury way more, the dodge always felt finicky and Blade is fast as hell so it can interrupt.
>>342001743
>>342001825
No, seriously.
Literally everything is a video game.
>Buy Star Ocean TtEoT two years ago
>Every year since then I restart the game hopin to get past the part where you neet the troupe
>this is literally like the beginning of the game
>No excuses
>Want to play with the VA on
>Easily one of the worst and miscast VAs ever to work on this game
>Never play it after that part
I don't even know what the combat is like other thab from reading the back of the box. Do you guys think it's worth a playthrough?
Good gameplay, meh story and characters.
I didn't give a shit about the plot twist and think people are overexaggerating how it ruined everything.
>>342011823
It's an RPG it's always easy. You can fucking solo some of the harder bosses with a single character for Christ's sake.
>>342015106
>I didn't give a shit about the plot twist and think people are overexaggerating how it ruined everything.
It ruined the whole fucking series. They build up a whole universe just ot destroy it.
>>342016429
For one game. And only that game.
>>342016429
Nothing fucking changed.
>>342001743
>>342001825
the meta is so far beyond this it literally doesnt ruin the story.
>>342016523
Actually, you're wrong.
Every SO Game/Universe has tie-ins. Star Ocean 1 and 2 had shared characters between them and took place in the same Universe. And with the PSP remakes they included Welch who talks about the Creators from time to time.
So at the very least SO 1 and 2 are part of the "It's a videogame" universe.
>>342016859
>Welch
You mean that one NPC that teaches you how to do alchemy?
>>342001743
Did SO5 mention anything about what happened in SO3?
>>342017165
Yep they included her as a playable character in the PSP remakes. For SO:First Departure she talks about going to their world as a Player in order to adventure and meet cute guys.
>>342016523
Every Star Ocean game is inside the game universe.
The "real" world outisde the game is the 4d space.
>>342016727
Everything changed.
Its gone from a real place to a arbitrary game place.
Everything you do in 1 and 2 is not real. It was just a game. The struggle of it all is just whatever.
>>342017509
You know its entirely possible that he 3rd game is modeled after the "real" universe and that she could have been made and designed to fulfill a certain purpose?
People model video game people after real life people all the time.
Pic related
>>342017754
>that projecting
Just because you feel it invalidated what you did in those games, does not mean that others share your opinion. There are plenty of reasons as to why a character who supposedly previously existed is now in a video game.
Its almost like you've never seen those sports games with real people modeled in game.
>>342001743
watching a movie. it is nothing but cutscenes
>>342006362
>>342003192
>>342010181
So do we know how Star ocean 5 compares to 3?
Games coming out next week
>>342017759
Welch is a fucking 4d being hacking into the game. There are a lot of clues about it.
>>342018130
It would be nice if you posted some.
>>342017759
>>342018037
>Muh headcannon
>>342017754
It's easier to deal with when you consider that the world of Eternal Sphere is so advanced that it's basically on par with real life, which raises the question of whether it's ok to just delete it when you think there's a bug. That's actually what the game was aiming for with it's story in the second half but the execution meant it fell somewhat flat. Basically that's the real failing of the twist, that it doesn't really phase the party much and carries no weight despite how much it should when looking at it from an outward perspective. For an example of that kind of twist done right, seeDigital Devil Saga 1 and 2.
>>342002518
Pretty much this. Entire combat system is garbage, and the dialogue is forced Jap campy shit.
electric FIST
side KICK
elec-side KICK
as shit as SO3's plot became, it somehow doesn't seem as bad as 4's. I don't think anything really tops time-traveling to an alternate-50s America, saving a retarded catgirl from Area 51, and then blowing up the fucking Earth.
What the fuck, Japan.
sidekicksidekicksidekicksidekicksidekicksidekicksidekicksidekicksidekicksidekick300%
>>342018186
>>342017759
No, in SO:First Departure she specifically states she's hanging out in their universe as a creator.
>>342018216
I'm only one of those people, but its not exactly like you posted positive proof as to why I should believe you. Your argument applies to you as much as it applies to me.
Did anyone use Adray here?
>>342018101
Director of the game and one of the head developers said that the game plays more like 3 than 4. As a matter of fact they said that the game as a whole feels more 3 than 4. Like they admit that 4 was a step in the wrong direction.
As for user reviews from Japan? The Japanese audience didn't like the real time character switching mechanic and the story didn't live up to their expectations.
>>342018101
Do you mean gameplay-wise? From what I've seen it looks pretty similar to 3 in most ways, but they removed the Fury system in favour of a guard button. Light and heavy attacks work the same, but you now can cancel the standard attacks into each other and get the cancel bonus too. The bonus gauge is back and fills by stocks, which you can spend on a big flashy super attack, of which each character has their own unique one (Fidel has Ethereal Blast, to give you an idea of how super). If I remember right, the bonus gauge now only goes down if you die or your guard is broken, which I'm happy about because FUCK random crits killing your streak. I don't know whether or not MP death is in though.
>>342018893
Not in my main party, but I tried him out quite a bit. He's shit which is a shame cause he's so cool, but he's still plenty usable. Feels so weird that they made the grizzled samurai guy more of a mage though, but his physical skills are awesome.
>>342019407
>>342019293
Awsome.
Cant wait to get it next week
>>342001825
ebin
>>342018803
Okey dokey, well I found the recruitment cutscene at the least. I'll try and find the specific instance she mention she has the powers of 'a creator', but in the cutscene she already had advanced knowledge of who everyone is and that she's obviously not from Roak.
https://youtu.be/FyY6hI7Nr84?t=1052
I remember breaking the game early on with alchemy or something, created a sword with echantments and two shotted most bosses
