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ITT: Warning signs that a game is terrible. >"RPG-Maker"
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ITT: Warning signs that a game is terrible.

>"RPG-Maker"
>"Indie"
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>>341996458
>"RPG-Maker"
Yes
>"Indie"
Most of the time
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>open world
>play with friends
>social media integration
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>>341996458
>voxels
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Indie
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LISA, Too the Moon, and OFF are pretty good
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>"good combat"
>"investing story"
>"interesting characters"
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>>341996458
>there are people that never played mondo medicals and mondo nation
>there are people that never played all of our friends are dead and au sable
>there are people that never played iwbtg
>there are people that never played cave story
>there are people that never played glum buster
>there are people that never played Iji
>there are people that never played David Shute's Small worlds
>there are people that never played Cortex command
When did "indie" become a codeword for "sidescroller available for $20 on steam" and "read my Interactive queer studies thesis for only $9.99"?
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>>341996458
>"Indie"

It's pretty sad that you limit yourself like this because you're so insecure and desperate to conform.
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>>341996458
>western
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>EA games
>Ninja Theory
>Bethesda
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>>341996665
It's just a meme. RPG Maker games have a bad reputation because most of them use the default assets and all look/play the same. If the developer is creative enough he can make some interesting stuff like the games you mentioned
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>immersive
>comfy
>open world
>you can do anything
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>>341996458
>Indie
Nowadays that means it has a chance not to be terrible
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>>341996458
/v/ likes it
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>>341996458
>early access
gross
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>kickstarter
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>>341996458
>"You can share with friends"
>"Craft new items"
>"A living, breathing open world"
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>>341996458
"Published by EA"
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>>341996458
>"Gearbox"
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>>341996458
Vocal majority of /v/ praise it
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>>341996458
>What is LISA?
>What is OFF?
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>Season pass
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>>341996458
>cinematic
>crafting
>survival
>Early Access
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>>341996976
>just a meme
If the majority is shit than it ain't a meme, just the facts. A creative person can make gold out of anything, but those are the exception.
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<system> exclusive* ** *** **** ****** ********
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>retro 8-bit
Usually means it could never actually run on hardware from the 8-bit era, it's just attempting to conceal the indie developer's lack of drawing skill.
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>emotional
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>>341996458
"Directed by Hideo Kojima"
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>>341996665

And ib, Yume Nikki, Towelket and Space Funeral.

RPG Maker has produced plenty of good games.
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>>341996458
>made by Nintendo after 2006
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>Game is the spiritual successor of XXXX

That is awlays gay as fuck.
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>>341996458
>Procedurally generated
It just means lazy and repetitive.
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>post zombie apocalypse
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>/v/ now makes threads about how to judge games solely on buzzwords

This place has changed.
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Soundtrack is mostly licensed music
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Oh hey you can filter your Steam queue now. I might actually use it now that it's not awful.
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>Inspired by EarthBound
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>"sickdark"
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>>341997606
WRYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
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>>341996458
>publisher are EA or Activision
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>>341996569
[INDIE][PIXEL GRAPHICS][ROGUELIKE][FEMALE PROTAGONIST]
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>>341997620
>dat plumbus
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>>341997807
Crypt of the necrodancer is a good game tho
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>>341996665
LISA isn't RPG Maker.
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>>341996458
>Fanbase talks more about how they want to fuck the girls or complain about edits to the sexual themes or fanservice than about the actual gameplay
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>>341996458
>tumblr likes it
>reddit likes it
>neo-/v/ likes it
>there are recurring threads about it on /v/ (this means it's being shilled hardcore, since talking about legitimate games on /v/, even a single non-recurring thread, when there's a /vg/ thread, is not allowed - except when the shills pay hiroshima of course).
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>>341997606
>implying /v/ isn't always has been like that
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>>341997807
>[FEMALE PROTAGONIST]
For anything made recently, this is more than enough
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>>341997894
No it isn't. It's not terrible but it's not good. It's very meh and only saved by the music.
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>>341997942
Yes it is
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>Early Access
>Open World
>Survival
>Retro Graphics
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>>341998051
I liked Bleed...
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>>341997486
This. What a talentless hack that fuck is.
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>>341996458
>doesnt have hyenas in it
Shit game immediately
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>>341998074
>actually original game mechanics
>fun as fuck
The only problem is how shallow the upgrade system is, by that i mean the choices are not that difficult to make because some are simply better than others.
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>>341997647
Steam is saved. I've wanted to filter indie games for so long. Is it easy to figure out?
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>>341998508
Rhythm and combat are two very hard things to mix together and Necrodancer falls flat on its face.
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>survival
>open world
>building
>procedural generation
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>>341996458
>Inclusive
>Representation
>Black main character where it doesnt make sense
>Stronk female character
>Dev looks like a fucking hipster hobo or has pink/blue hair
>Dev presentation in how passionate he/she is for videogames
>Game is a personal project or vision
>______ Experience
>FPS are a selling point
>Graphics are a selling point
>8-bit, retro, classic, throwback
>Streamlined _____
>Pick-up and play
>Easy to get into
>We want new fans without forgetting about the old
>Its a cross between X and Y game
>Quirky/super serious/grimdark platform
>Earthbound-like
>Inspired by Earthbound/some obscure RPG no one cares about

I'm too tired...
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OFF and HOME are both good
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>>341997647
Really? Oh god, i've been waiting for so long to get rid of these fucking Early Access games of my queries. They take like 80% of every search you make, fucking waste of my time.
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Say about all the shovelware titles what you want, I consistently have more fun with good Indie titles than with all the Triple A trash that releases these days.
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>>341996665
>>>>>>/tv/
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>>341997673
this looks pretty aite, source?
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>>341998953
I don't get it? Are you implying those are not games but movies?

>>341999121
Knuckles Sandwich
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>>341997807
>[FEMALE PROTAGONIST]

literally essential. i dont buy games without that
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>>341998662
>two very hard things to mix together
Yes, mostly because there are times where you want to get the fuck out of there and the rhythm fucks you up compared to more calm moments.
I found the game a bit more fun in the bard mode, where you could take your time.
I purposely play on that mode and then try to mash the fuck out of my buttons except when using a shrine or something
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>ONLY ON PLAYSTATION
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>"Play your way"

This always amounts to just killing everyone or killing everyone silently, and you know people are going to choose the latter every time.
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>>341996665
OFF is a meme tumblr game senpai
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>>341996458
>can climb that mountain
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>>341996458
>women's names in the devs
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>>341996458
>it's an ubisoft game
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>>341999645

Being popular on Tumblr doesn't make something bad.
OFF is a very good game.
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>The game's selling point is that it's similar to another game
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>open world RPG
how many morons have fallen for this bethesda meme
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"Game is more accessible"

"Made for a broader audience"
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>>341999959
>Being popular on Tumblr doesn't make something bad.
>>>/tumblr/
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>Nintendo
>anime graphics
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>"Vibrant, diverse cast"
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>>341999645
They are just a parasite to the host, they weren't the original audience of the game.
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>>341996458
>AAA title
>wider audience
>entertaiment for everyone
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>We don't want to just fit this game into something as arbitrary as a 'genre'.
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>>341996458
>any adjective to describe their game instead of telling the player what it's about
>especially if it's:
>"quirky"
>"creative"
>"emotional"
>"vibrant"
>"retro"
>"story-rich"
>open-world sandbox
>one of its key listed features is that it can be modded
>gameplay video is all half-second segments that don't show preceding context or aftermath
>it has loads of 'funny' reviews on Steam
>it's been praised as 'revolutionary' and 'progressive'
>early-access
>X-style
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>Soulswave
>droneRPG
>ambient mystery
>horror fusion
>post-Sonic platformer

These genres are nothing but meme trash.
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>>342000336
>>342000809

These literally make me cringe
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/v/ loves it
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>the main character is a nu-male
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>>342002524
>neo-/v/ loves it
FTFY
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>>342003054
New Kratos literally looks like some dude that really really really really wants to talk to you about craft beer
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>>341996848
You shut your whore mouth
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>>342003054

Why is he powering-up to go super saiyin?
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>>342003409
Don't be a shitlord anon. He was triggered by the new South Park game trailer.
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>multiplayer only
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All these people whining about [FEMALE PROTAGONIST] are retarded.

The real issue is [FEMALE DEVELOPER]. Seriously, women aren't any better at making video games than they are at writing novels.
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>>342004054

The REAL issue is making an issue out of gender. Just give me fun vidya for fucks sake.
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>>342000668
>batter
>is the pitcher
absolutely awful
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>open-world
>survival
>crafting
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>>342004238
>>342004054
The real issue is a lack of dragon protagonists.
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>they use awesome or hilarious to describe their game
>awards and praises from Kotaku/Polygon/IGF/Indiecade/etc plastered all over their page
>inspired by/ a love letter to (insert two or more games/genres)
>Voxel
>DLC adds up to more than 50 dollars
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>>342005532
Dragon quest 1.
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>cinematic experience

Fuck this shit this is why I'm done with modern gaming and bought a PS3 to play all the PS2 collections.
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>>341996458
>Nintendo
>Open world
>indie
>cinematic
>MOBA
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>>342005532
Agreed. We hav't had a good one since Divinity II
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>>342003158

>FTFY

You are the neo-/v/
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>>341996458
>game
There you go. That's it all sorted.
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>inspired by [meme game/genre]
>metroidvania
>CUHRAYZEE
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>dynamic

>visceral
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>>342006340
PROtagonists. How is the main character a dragon?
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>>342005532
>The real issue is a lack of REPTILE protagonists.
FTFY
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>>341996458
>"Innovating direction of the genre" - Kotaku
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>>342005532
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>>342006659
Dragon warrior*
Same shit, retard.
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>>341996458
>Bioware
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>>342006436
>I've been on /v/ all afternoon, I am an oldfag XD
>>>/reddit/
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>Narrative driven
>Exploration game
>Tale of Tales
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>dark fantasy action rpg difficult pv
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>>341996458
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>David Cage

You just know gonna suck but be full of meme magic.
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>>342000387
Why don't you tumble off a cliff.
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Open world or reboot.

Among these buzzwords there are probably 3 good games out of two or three hundred.
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>procedurally generated areas
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>>342007158
>>342007158
>>342007158

THIS.

/thread
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>>341996458
>Unity
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fanservice
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>>342009998

Go home, EA, you're drunk already.
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>>341996458
>it's not a shmup
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>cinematic shit
>free mmorpg
>forced online to play singleplayer
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>>341996665
>too the moon
>good
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>>342000498
Yeah, fuck this "Nintendo is japanese" bullshit
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>>342010971
A lot of the best MMOs were free. Tricksters online, runescape, mabinogi, wakfu, tibia online, etc.
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>>341997620
/pol/ druids and their crafting skill
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>>341996665
>LISA
OK buddy
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>>341996458
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>>the citizen kane of gaming
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can i like make a game myself and not call it indie or is that just a title i'll have to live with?
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>>342013075

Call it "enthusiast" instead.
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>>342013075
Also asking this
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>>342013075
>>342013397
Indie stands for independent. If it's your lone wolf game, well, it is indie no matter what. It'st just that the term was badly used lately, it doesn't mean cheap games, it means you made it without being part of a corporate umbrella.
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>"/v/ hates video games" is just a reddit meme, guys
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>>342013680
>If it's your lone wolf game, well, it is indie no matter what

shit, /v/ is gonna hate my gemu even if it's good then
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>ancient evil
>prophesy
>the chosen one
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>>341996458
>RPG-Maker
>Indie
>$30
Nice try....
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>>341996665
none of those games are even remotely good tho
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2D
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>resistance against ambiguous evil world order
>you play as the black or female
>resistance is lead by black or female character
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>>341998753
>HOME
>Any OFF fanbase
>Worth any dignity or attention whatsoever
They all literally made the creator quit making vidya. They're all fucking awful and missed the point of the original.

Someone post the image
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Any "Arthouse" games that sells itself off the fact it's "arthouse" is always garbage. The best arthouse games never sell themselves as such.
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>>341997807
Female protagonists are cool, but not in games made exclusively to star a female as the MC. JRPGs are pretty decent about this, or at least the ones I've played like the Atelier games and Trails in the Sky.
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>>342013680
Oh well
Maybe one day I can get big enough to become a vaguely notable 3rd Party
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>>342011850
>A single line in a game means it's bad XD
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>RPG-Maker
yep
>indie
Not entirely true, but it does require a lot of cherrypicking to find good games. There are some gems to be found. Underrail, for instance, became one of my favorite RPGs in recent years. I've been having lots of fun with Vagante as well.
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>>342011850
>reference to another game = meme
/v/ being retarded as usual
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>>342014827
It's kind of fallen out of usage since DS2's release, but the term has been used a LOT. Even though it was just a reference originally, it's become a meme through people saying it all the fucking time.
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>>342014486
>Live A Live
>""Art""
What
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>>342015289
>He didn't thoroughly analyze live a live
lol pleb
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LISA was made in RPG maker.
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>>341996458
>Made in America
>Made in Europe
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Why are all the good indie games forever stuck in the alpha/beta stage? Fuck this world.
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>Made with Gamermaker Studio

Despite that Nuclear Throne was decent
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>>342015750
Hyper light drifter wasn't good too?
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>>342015827
Haven't gotten around to playing it yet myself
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>>341996458
>Dlc announced at launch
>"we're going for X audience"
>"we want everyone to win"
>"we've streamlined the experience"
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>>341996458

>strong female protagonist
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>>342014657
People criticize Undertale for this all the goddamn time.
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>>341996458
>female protagonist is one of the main
If one of your main selling points is that the character you play as has boobs, what confidence should I have in the rest of it?
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>>342015827
It wasn't. You can't even defend it, so don't try. You might have had fun with it but I had fun with Sonic 06, you can't expect others to have fun with bad games.
>>342015930
Don't.
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>>341996458
>thread starts out as a "shit on as many people's favourite game as possible"
>ends up as a civil discussion about actual videogames, with a few recommendations here and there
Sometimes i think i should leave this shithole, but stuff like this keeps me here.

>>342016517
Undertale has more than one reference, some more obnoxious than others.
Plus the community is the most cancerous thing ever created.
I've been in 2 500+ replies /mlp/ threads where people discussed if the MC died her hair or not and i still think undertale fags are pure cancer
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>>342015827
It's just okay imo. The challenge never ramps up save for a few instances and exploration is mostly looking for obscure details or just hugging walls. Though it makes great foundation for a sequel if that ever happens.
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>Presented by Rockstar Games
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>>342016845
>Undertale has more than one reference, some more obnoxious than others.
Such as?
>Plus the community is the most cancerous thing ever created.
Why do you care? The worst parts stick to Tumblr.
>I've been in 2 500+ replies /mlp/ threads where people discussed if the MC died her hair or not and i still think undertale fags are pure cancer
>/mlp/
Well, this explains a lot.
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>>341996627
tiberian sun is good
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>>342015930
Its a pretty decent game.
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>>342017234
>some more obnoxious than others
>So Sorry
>Doggo
>The worst parts stick to Tumblr
>>>/vg/145946480
also, i'm pretty that as an undertale fan you can't really comment on other people fandom choices.
Not that i ever watched a single episode of that, i go there once in a while to follow a couple of artist doing threads.
RIP ASNYIP
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>>342017821
>So Sorry
He didn't even want to include that character, that's why he tucked it away.
>Doggo
Is a reference to what exactly?
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>>342005532
The I Of The Dragon was great
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Indie games are bad and AAA games are bad, the only good games are ones that have fluxuated between having and not having a big publisher backing them so much that they can't be considered either
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>>342018404
So Wayforward?
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>>342018513
I didn't think the example I gave existed but shit if you didn't hit that nail on the head
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>>342018205
It's a literal meme, right next to pupper.
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>>342018404
Wrong, the best games are A or AA games backed by a publisher.
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>>342018738
KnowYourMeme has an entry for pupper, but not doggo.
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>>342018626
Yeah they're like the first thing I think of with the borderline between both
Not that it's a bad thing
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>>342018872
Just google image it, half the images will be memes.
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Point out the half that are memes, please.
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>>342019502
All of them desu
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>>342020131
>the character is based off the memes that appear there
>the memes that appear there are the character
>the character is based off the character
OK buddy
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This fucking thread
>Game
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>>341996458
bragging about awards from virtual magazines
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>>341997039
Don't three of those things apply to Yume Nikki?
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