>tfw the skill ceiling is so low that the best player in the world misses 6 perfect shots in a row due to RNG spread.
How can people even live with themselves playing this garbage?
because it's fun and I don't give a shit about ranked or competitive play because I'm not a 14 year old autist
>>341996584
Fuck off casual. This is thread for hardcore gamers. Back to your angry birds.
>>341996257
>>>>>>>>the best player in the world
LOOOOOL
>>341996257
it's due to shitty valve servers and 60 tick.
This wouldn't happen in a pro game on decent servers and 128 tick
>>341996820
>Valvedrones who spend hundreds of hours in this game still don't know how it works
top fucking kek
>>341996820
>standing still
>IT'S BECAUSE OF THE TICK RATE!!!
Moron.
>>341996257
if people wanted realism they would play ArmA
>tfw ArmA will never be an esport
>>341996921
care to elaborate?
>hurr durr i'm more intelligent because I said so
>>341996995
damn that would actually be really cool like a 256 v 256 arma game with people who are actually good
Desert Eagle has fucked landing accuracy. You need to literally wait for 3 seconds for it to be accurate again. As you can see, f0rest jumped before shooting and that is why the shots don't connect first. It would be faster to quickswitch to another weapon and back.
play W:ET
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UCwUPE1O36U
>>341996257
>the best player in the world
that's not me in the webm though
>>341997286
what a boring video
>>341996257
>the best player in the world
>>341997739
what a boring post
>>341998016
what a boring (you)
>>341997286
>Youtube still won't allow 144 fps videos
>>341997949
Well, best player in the world without cheats anyhow.
>>341998310
epic reddit memes
>>341997274
>arbitrary accuracies that aren't even shown on crosshair or gun movement
how the fuck is this acceptable
>>341998413
Epic indeed
>>341996257
Every now and then I realise I haven't played any CS:GO for a while and load it up.
Then I remember that I haven't played in a while because my actions only have an incidental relationship with the results in the game, and don't play it again for a while.
Kek, fucking Valvedrones.
There's not a more pathetic fanbase in the industry.
There's not a lower skill cap FPS on the market either, for that matter.
>>341997124
>lan tourny
>literally needs a hangar
would be rad desu
>>341997286
that's the worst bhop video i've ever seen
at least the video quality is good and not recorded in 240p on bandicam
>>341996820
>standing still
>tickrate
>>341998798
(you)
>>341997739
>>341998016
>>341998049
B O R E R I N G
>>341998798
this webm is so funny holy shit
>>341998470
The game was made a while ago back when those kind of things were hard to program. Nowadays, we have randomized recoil that is visible on the gun models / crosshair, but back then the easiest way to code it was to just make the bullets follow the same pattern every time. Since everyone got used to this system, they kept it how it was and added EXTRA random inaccuracy on top of it.
post csgo webms
>>341998470
You can customize that in settings, senpai.
>>341996257
probabilities occur independent of each other
it's possible to flip a coin 1000 times and never get heads, it's not likely, but is possible
>>341996257
but its ok when arma 3 does it
>>341998798
>that webm
I'm dying
>>341996257
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yKgKXjs3EFg
its called jump inaccuracy u dumb nig
>>341999462
The issue, of course, is that CS has a lot of 'coinflips' integrated into the core gameplay.
When's the last time anyone cared about a coinflipping tournament?
>>341999462
What if a coin lands on it's edge?
>it's a shitters complain about a game they suck at episode
wew
>>341998632
>muh gotv bug
>my shitty razer mouse does it all the time!
>lol he can't possibly cheat you're jealous because you're a silver xD
Expect one of these.
It's been a while
>>341999735
Don't fall for the bait.
This guy posts the same thread everyday for over a year now.
he fucking jumped
you cant tell from this webm but the deagle is horribly inaccurate for quite a while after jumping
his crosshair doesnt show that
>>342000359
>its a tryhard defends a shit game episode
lmao at you nerds that take this trash seriously then cry when you run into players me in mm
>>341998798
/pol/ plays CS:GO
>>341996995
I'm having ten boners in my pants from the thought of this, thank you brother.
>>342000625
>he jumped!
Valvedrones. Every single time.
>>341997124
>Prize pool divided between 256 people
>>341996995
>killing people should be a sport
>xd guys I'm using military slang to better my simulator game experience and I can do a hundred pushups, I'm so strong and dangerous lol
Really though, yall just need to git gud
>>341996820
>people don't realize this is beautiful satire
>>341998798
funniest fucking webm i've ever seen, i love how you can see him stopping and thinking for a moment after reloading where to draw the next line
DELETE THIS FUCKING THREAD. You will regret ever trying to deface one of Gaben's beautiful children. /v/ does not forget.
I exclusively play CSGO for the sliding servers
>>342001129
Is this a webm from overwatch? His cursor never even went over a single one of them yet still gets free kills.
>>342000872
>Points out exactly why he missed
>V-valvedrones
CSGO killed my friends.
>>341996257
Falseflagging Blizzdrones are at it again. Your tickrate is garbage and so is your game.
>>342000625
doesn't last 6 seconds tho
>there are people on this planet who think that Valve games can be anything more than just casual online shooters for gullible paying retards
>they get called out
>"h-high tickrate servers are the solution"
>"VAC bans all hackers"
>"you can just ignore the ugly cosmetics, the game is totally not a cash-grab"
>"picking the same heroes/guns/classes all the time in order to be effective doesn't mean that the game is not balanced"
>"frequent updates(to add skins or break the balance even more) show that Valve cares about the players and the games"
Just stop. There's nothing wrong with liking Valve games, but if you think that they are competitive in any shape or form, then you really are a delusional retard who is only trying to justify the stupidly high amount of time he has spent playing them.
>inb4 "if they are not competitive then why are you not Global Elite yet?"
Because OP's WebM shows that trying to care about your performance in a poorly made video game will only lead to frustration.
>"b-but there are people who have managed to become amazing in CSGO!!1"
There are people who can swim in shit faster than me and I'm ok with that. They can rightfully claim that they learnt how to swim in fucking diarrhea better than anyone else, but I don't see why anyone would want to try and challenge them.
>>341997124
>Team size becomes prohibitive to entry by private organizations
>Nation-states start to field their own teams
>International league becomes popular
>A nation's ArmA skill becomes seen as indicative of their actual military capacity
>International conflicts are settled in ArmA instead of on the battlefield
Did we just figure out world peace, /v/?
>2006
>people mock Bethesda for trying to sell $5 cosmetic horse armor
>2016
>people jump over each other in a rush to buy a different colored knife for $3000
>>342000625
>>342001452
So let me get this straight. If you jump, your gun will no longer be accurate enough to hit people for like 7-10 seconds after landing?
Wow, what a great mechanic and game!
>>342001741
>Retards pay bethesda
>Retards pay me
There's a difference dumbass.
>>342001646
And then there are the people who will ask "Why is it an esport then?". It's not like Valve themselves don't pour millions into it or anything and they get double the amount thanks to people watching that stuff.
>>342000625
Is this a joke?
>>342001912
>Valve
>spend money on CSGO
wrong game
>>342001903
Also Valve because they're taking a cut of all those transactions.
>>342001646
I think every sport / hobby has a meta so your point about picking the same heroes/classes/guns is irrelevant.
Frequent updates are to change this meta that you're bitching about. Just because you can't buy duelies and run around the map winning every gun fight doesn't mean CS is unbalanced. The economy is actually a really unique thing about CS:GO
But you've obviously made your mind up about CS and "e-sports" in general, so have fun flaming.
>>342002380
>dualies and run around the map winning every gun fight
Nice projection, you learned that through first-hand experience, huh?
>economy is unique about CSGO
Yes, unlike KF2, PD2, TF2, DOTA2 and every other game that features Valve's microtransaction model. Take a picture of your blank empty green eyes, shill.
>>341997286
I used to, best ~8 years of my life.. I could still play it but eh, dont feel like it honestly
reminder that gun skin costs 30$
>>342002757
I really like kf2 but i was pretty fucking irritated when i saw they straight copied CS:GOs cosmetic system
>>342001449
Just Pure Skill
>>341996257
It makes no sense to take about the skill ceiling of an isolated incident.
>>341998798
the best part is after failing he gets shot by a german
>>342002757
>tfw you realize you were so buttflustered that you didn't realize he was talking about the pre-round buy system and your cheeks flush rosey-red.
>>342003682
It makes no sense to defend this happening at all, frogcancer.
>>342004254
>economy done right
In no way is it done to prolong player interest so they can "get the good guns".
Game design 101, come on. Does time sink ring a bell?
>>341996820
>>342001268
Don't worry anon, I got it immediately.
>>341998632
That's not cheattttinggg!!!oneone!!11one that's just perfectly ordinary head gravity perk bonus you get once you reach global elite!
>>342004519
Annnd the damage control
How can you live with yourself? The cognitive dissonance silences every other thought in your head.
I bet you're so embarrassed that you're just close your browser to try and pretend this never happened.
>>342004851
Great counter, my man, well done.
>>342001467
Don't cry, poor anime girl. It'll be fine, time heals...
>>342004096
why?
There are more asians drawing swastikas than germans.
Incidentally, there are also much more americans who swear fealty to the hook cross nowadays than germans.
>>341000000
>>342004673
>>342000457
I was just told everyone does this without thinking about it, even through walls. The maps are so tiny it's just coincidence. Just look at your own replays.
>>342005942
>normal person would keep crosshair at the door opening
>'esports professional' snaps to someones head through the door and stays locked as he strafes to the side
It just happens :^)
>>342005942
I was wondering when you'd show up.
It's 100% impossible to do this kind of movement. His aim doesn't shake even a little and locks into the guy as he moves.
I wonder how stupid you have to be to say something like you did.
Is it denial? Would it destroy or life or something? Are you a fucking shill?
I don't even know anymore.
>>342005435
you fucked up
>>342000000
>>342006391
>>342006392
>I was just told
I had asked one of the people in my TS who actually plays CS:GO and just typed what he replied as best I could.
>>341996257
Wow, how shit was the other player.
>some skilled games
No one actually take the time to realise that the player f0rest was shooting just spawned, on a deathmatch server that the majority have respawn invincibility for the first few seconds or until they shoot?
>>342006557
>This kid who plays CSGO 8 hours a day told me people do this all the time because he doesn't want to destroy the illusion that he can strive to one day be as good as the professional cheaters
Valvedrones are probably the most pathetic group of fanboys in the industry.
>>342006557
He's a fucking imbecile then, much like 90% of the CSGO community.
If you want more blatant cheaters, look up k0nfig, shox, apEX, flusha and byali.
Sometimes it really is a coincidence when your crosshair is directly above someone behind a wall, but no in this case. It's not a simple coincidence, his aim snaps and locks into the enemy, this is impossible to replicate.
I suggest you to keep researching known cheaters, it's amazing and it'll make you hate how dumb the fanbase is.
Here's another from Niko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdWU6G3KhB8
>>342006838
>This kid who plays CSGO 8 hours a day told me people do this all the time because he doesn't want to destroy the illusion that he can strive to one day be as good as the professional cheaters
That's an accurate description, holy niggers.
Probably thinks he's above everyone for 'understanding' how superior the 'professional' player might look to the casuals.
>>342006838
>>342006840
>>342007080
I'm not even going to bring it up with him, he'll probably just go "You don't even play the game, how would you know"
And he's right, I don't play the game, but fishy shit is fishy shit.
>>342006840
>those comments under the video.
How much of a faggot you need to be to defend some random "pro" player?
>>342007248
That's actually very sensible of you. Sometimes i wonder if it's really hard to understand that people might cheat in order to win prizes. Even olympic athletes do this kind of shit.
Valve shills must be fucking professionals for brainwashing an entire community for years.
This flusha guy is fantastic, you'd see his plays and wonder how he's still unbanned.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leXjNLDjVXw
Some guy even replicated something he did with his own cheats
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fri9uy9gSw8
>>341996257
you wish, overwatch babby
>>342007414
I sincerely don't know, it feels like it's personal for them. They have nothing to gain from it and only perpetuate cheaters in competitions.
It went too far for Valve to do something. CS is now being broadcasted on TV and a cheating scandal would ruin the competitive scene.
Not to mention all the LAN's won by fnatic. How would you punish an org for cheating 2-3 years ago? How would you pay the 2nd?
>>341996820
That's a custom server.
The hitboxes are the problem.
>>341996257
wouldnt surprise if some moron actually fell for this bait
>>341999735
he didn't even jump though?
>>342007248
It's really obvious since pros get caught for using aimbots all the time.
I always wonder why you'd do that but then I remember for some reason these games have online leagues.
>>342007524
Literally who cares if someone cheats at a online tournament, its freaking made up for people to be wallhacking. LAN tournaments is where all the skills comes down to anyways because of lagg or cheating or whatever
>>342005008
You literally don't understand the weapon economy system of the game and blame it on poor game design???
What is there to counter????
>>341998632
fuck off with this shit, he is aiming at the sound direction, trained to the default head height, and you wonder why you suck
>>342006775
shhh no one here actually plays csgo
>>342008878
>Literally who cares if someone cheats at a online tournament, its freaking made up for people to be wallhacking. LAN tournaments is where all the skills comes down to anyways because of lagg or cheating or whatever
But they cheat @lan too. And even then, how can you justify cheating even if it takes place online? There's money on the line, and most qualifiers take place online.
I really don't understand what you're trying to say.
>>342009119
It's actually because he jumped and the Deagle takes quite some time to be accurate again.
But go ahead, defend it for the wrong reason, i'm sure it'll make you look smart.
>>342009213
Do they not use 3rd party machines at LAN or something?
>>342009004
here's your (you)
>>342009004
Found the 14 year old with 2000 hours and $500 worth of skins in CSGO.
>>342009348
I'm sure it's not 6 fucking seconds of inaccuracy
What exactly makes CSGO "unique" compared to other shooters?
>>342009348
It's in addition to the initial jump inaccuracy. I didn't mention it because its already been stated multiple times
>people defend and enjoy this kusoge
How does it feel to be valve's little rat in a skinnerbox, valvedrones?
>>342005158
Stop being a such a fucking faggot.
>>341997286
conc jumping > bhopping
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zi4DnurZSbM
i don't know how anyone can think cs is a competitive game, even if it didn't have issues the gameplay itself is not very skilled and completely revolves around tactics and luck in high level play.
>>342009213
Im not justifiying cheating, but all of these problems has been around since 1.6. There is no way you can stop cheaters from cheating online.
What im trying to say is that its just a big shitfest and even if you caught some pro cheating by watching demos, guess what. There is probably atleast one or two more cheaters in the game not retarded enough to use aim assist cheats
>>342009481
Yep, but the players are granted unlimited access for training and the machines are always connected to the internet. Not to mention players are able to bring their own peripherals to play.
It's possible that they are downloading stuff from the steam workshop too.
Someone made a video a while ago, i'll see if i can find it.
>>342009639
you have to stop before you shoot and the better you are doing the better guns you can buy, that's literally it.
>>341998632
Didn't a bunch of big names get banned from TF2 recently for cheating.
Anyone that thinks a pro would never cheat is a naive shit.
>>342009639
I think what youre looking for in terms of 'unique' is the economy system of the game in competitive mode.
shitty f2p korean fps ripoffs don't count
>>342009974
>players are granted unlimited access for training
That's completely retarded
>>342006838
Well, at least they're not Blizzard fans.
Yeah I don't really understand the appeal of competitive Counter-Strike.
Playing the Zombie Mod in Source was always more fun than the actual game. If I wanted competitive FPS, I would just go play Call of Duty or something, because at least my bullets hit the enemies I aim at. Which is something that would make sense in a VIDEO GAME.
>>342009925
>There is no way you can stop cheaters from cheating online
Sure, but they're finding their way into lans too. Many of the flusha clips are from lans, and online matches are not irrelevant at all.
I understand your point but this is not the correct attitude to face the problem.
Ignoring and accepting that people cheat will not make it stop, and you only allow Valve to turn a blind eye on them.
>>342009905
its a completely different game at 'high level play'
>>341997274
After jumping it's like 6 seconds until it's normal again IIRC. This whole thread is shitposting, but we already knew that; how do we make the deagle not garbage but not as OP as in 1.6? I think having a 0.5-1 second delay after every shot before it's accurate again would be fairish, and obviously getting rid of the stupid high time it takes for it to return to accuracy after jumping
>>342010382
no it isn't lol
>>342010382
I'd imagine playing against aimbots would change the game quite a bit.
>>341997286
>tfw haven't played W:ET since 2008
>tfw used to play on Trick/Gamma jump servers all the time
Also loved the TCE mod that played like Counter Strike.
>>342010068
pretty much 90% of high plat snipers were VACced
this includes this guy https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IyzgreYLPSo
>arena shooters are dead
>>341996257
it's still better than every other "popular" fps out right now
at least the maps aren't shit. at least thers no kill streaks, at least theres no sprint or ads
AT LEAST IT HASNT' BEEN FUCKING MODERNIZED YET
>tfw source 2 will be and then people will realize how lucky they were with GO
>>342010473
have you atleast played a full league season of open? i dont think theres any point responding in this thread if people simply do not know the game lol
if not csgo, have you ever played a season of any fps at any level in any league?
>>342010357
Nah man, this is all valve. Its not up to us players to stop cheaters, its valves issue to stop it.
Have you heard blizzard does about cheaters? They ban the fucking PC hardware number so it isnt just buy a new account, thats one way to do it.
>>342001778
>I'm so bad at the game
>why doesn't the game just aim for me
>I wish I was playing Call of Duty
Every thread
>>342008607
Are you blind?
>>342010736
>source 2
Oh that's okay we still have like 10 years to go.
>>342010798
nope but i've played csgo using valves matchmaking with friends and i've seen csgo tournys on twitch, it's all the same shit you'll argue otherwise but you are wrong.
>>342001129
Nice 16 tick demo.
>>342010798
I was a 30 in halo 2 and a 50 in halo 3. my br will still go up your ass even though I stopped playing
>pic related is the best ranking system, ever.
>>342009905
>this happened one time so that means its like that for everyone
If the game is RNG then how are their high tier players in competitive? How is it so easy to not have your rank drop?
Oh yeah, you're a slivershitter, thats why1
>>342011039
If the bullets don't travel from the barrel in the direction I am pointing the gun, the game is bad.
Who /Q3A/ here
>>342010978
Yeah, but let's suppose you're an employee at valve. You know you don't have to do shit about cheaters because the community outright denies their existence.
They're certainly not going to punish teams like Fnatic and Dignitas.
If the community pressures them, i'm sure they would do something the next day,
But as of now, go to any website, specially fucking reddit and see their rules against """""witchhunting"""".
Certainly won't make valve act. I'm talking about pro players here, cheaters in MM will never go away, specially with VAC.
>>342011316
>q3a when there's reflex
>>342011293
>why do I have to learn recoil patterns
>why do I have to learn how to aim
Are these threads just made by Call of Duty children? Don't you have a Battlefield 1 preorder to be circlejerking over?
>>342011293
I like cs and im not going to defend this since it's exactly like going against people in a fighting game who have no idea what the combos are it literally doesn't mean the guy is any better.
cs is the only fps that does this with bullets except for battlefields sniper bullet drop
it's a stupid mechanic that is a non issue after a while
>>342011443
>hiding information on mechanics away from players
>good game design
>>342001678
that used to be the plot of league of legends
>>342011125
>>342011206
see this is what i mean... you are comparing casual 5v5 play to real organized 5v5 matches.
let me put it this way, if you were playing football would you even try to compare a scrimmage to a highschool match? to a college league match? to an NFL match?
i would hope your answer would be no, because the game is completely different at that level and that holds true the further you go up.
basically, you guys are casuals
>>342011316
Who /1.6/ here
>>342011637
but I have played game battles in h3 which was basically mlg online tournaments
>>342011206
muh BR
Halo lacked recoil for most guns so it was easy mode always.
>>342011436
Reflex is dead though
>>342011865for now
>>342011841
>arena fps needing recoil
ok, I can definitely tell you know exactly what you're talking about. recoil isn't a fucking thing in arena fps you tool. it's about how you actually move around the map without dying not just finding someone and shooting the once in the head and saying OH L OOK I GOT A KILL GUYZ
It's a server issue and CS GO does have shitty hitboxes with some of their models.
Some of the models with the heavy vest don't register damage unless you hit them 2-3 inches from the center line.
Headshots are instakill within 1-2 shots in offline mode. Valve always had shitty servers.
Got sick of CS GO because of it.
>tfw /v/ shits on CS but sucks Overhyped's dick dry.
>>342012110
>/v/ is 96 people
>>341998798
this guy irl
>>342011773
is this sarcasm?
i dont have an xbox/know halo so i dont know how 'serious' game battles is for competition/skill level
>>342011943
>now
Also, the new quake is going to be an Overwatch wannabe with heroes and casual shit?
How does it make you feel?
Just accept it anon, arena shooters are not gonna peak like they did with UT99, Q3 and UT2k4.
>>341996257
>invulnerability cancelled
>>342011656
who /cz/ here
>>342012368
it wasn't sarcasm. I'm serious. a 50 in mlg was the hardest 50 to get because the games settings/spawns were change appropriately. you also moved faster. that being said halo 3 was literally a watered down version of 2 with inferior maps
I reallyl wish h3 would just come to pc and do what cs go is doing
>>342012110
>A few people post the truth about CS
>Valvedrones flock to the thread to defend CS with bullshit excuses every single time.
>>342012543
also getting a 50 doesn't mean anything when it comes to actually playing in a tournament too. most people wouldn't pick you up if you weren't at least a 50
>>342012586
Not defending CS but Overwatch is just as shitty as a shooter(hell even worse since it's neo assfaggits with muh ultimates.).
Just sick of /v/ going apeshit for casualized TF2 with waifus.
>>342011513
>hiding
>implying anyone who got gud on csgo don't know when accuracy resets
one of the best and worst things about csgo is that casuals and newcomers have a hard time getting in to it which fends off most casuals who left the game before touching the p90
>>342011467
>>342012049
>best posts not getting a reply
did you guys get btfo or what??
Where's the valve apologist bingo card? I think we got at least 2 bingos already.
>>342010348
only correct post
>>342013079
valve is a fucking horrible developer and fucked their only chance at reviving the FPS genre with CSGO. that being said the only thing better in OW is the fact that blizzard actually notices the playerbase (casuals) and develops the game for them
>>342012912
Prove to me that it's not hiding information away from the player.
protip: you can't
>>342012681
adding on to this, its funny when people talk about their mm rank in csgo.
fyi, being global elite doesnt mean anything. it is literally the entry level you should be if you want to start playing competitively in esea and not get roflstomped by every other player
this is how ANY sport/game goes when you transition to a competitive level. you realize just how bad everyone below you is, and just how good everyone above you is...
>>342012853
What does Overwatch have to do with CS?
>>341996685
>hardcore gamer
>only plays a handful of games based on some imagined metric
Okay, friendo, enjoying being "hardcore".
>>342013441
This.
Global Elite players are complete shit. Well, CS players in general are shit.
>>342008010
>mission progress: +1 kill scored
no it isn't you goddamn retarded kid lmao
csgo kiddies are the worst
>>342010716
damn dude
didn't lmaobox go for like 5 years without getting detected?
>>342013441
>its funny when people talk about their mm rank in csgo.
cs go has a terrible fucking ranking system honestly it's one of the worst ive seen. halo 2 had am uch better one and that shit came out in 04. easily one of the best I've seen. it's just like ELO only your rank doesn't go down and it matches you with people your exact rank
>>342013294
there are charts everywhere in the internet about the accuracy/weapon stats, and the dynamic crosshair (which is pretty common) tells exactly when your accuracy resets after shooting/moving/jumping. you haven't played the game so you wouldn't know.
>inb4 w-w-well your wrong!!!
>>342013294
>spray your entire magazine into a wall
>you now know how recoil works
If anyone defends bullets not going where the crosshair is aimed (and it isn't showing the spread but rather a + ) then you need your head checked, honestly.
>CS is the only even vaguely decent competitive shooter still played
>dedicated shitposting force determined to act like it's couple of minor flaws make it literal garbage
>everything is in absolutes, ignore all positives
>especially ignore the complete lack of a better competitive shooter
>>342014058
But they're not ingame, so they're hidden away from the player.
>>342011443
>recoil patterns
>deagle
>>342013939
only your rank doesn't go down over time** sorry. yeah losing will make you de rank..
these new kids will never know what it feels like to be tied 49-49 in team slayer
>>342014058
>there are sources of information not in the game that...
Just stop. That's nearly as bad as not including a movelist in a fighting game.
>>342014171
>we should eat shit and be happy because it's the only thing available to us
>>342013294
>this competitive game shouldn't require you to learn it's mechanics
Do you think SF2 is a shit game because it doesn't show off it's combos, too?
>>342014194
they are ingame you fucking retard, i just said there is a dynamic crosshair option which informs of recoil and accuracy resets.
>pretending to be retarded
>>342013583
I got to global by winning aim duels and playing dust2 exclusively.
I don't know a single grenade. I haven't used any tactics at all, i just get into a fight and win it. I just flash long and kill people, i just rush catwalk and clear the bombsite.
What that guy commented is very accurate. I also started playing 3 months ago after 8 years without playing 1.6 or any FPS on PC.
>>342014310
You're right anon, maybe we should just stop playing videogames.
>>342014310
being unhappy doesn't change the fact that there is only shit to eat
>>342014351
Street Fighter 2, at least for the console releases, told you how to do special moves in the manual.
>>342014171
>CS
>decent competitive shooter
It's one of the worst, which is why it shares the most popular esports spots in 2016 with games like LoL, DotA 2 and Hearthstone.
Esports 15 years ago was about high skill cap games. Esports today is about the largest player base, which also correlates with ease of entry, low skill caps and casuals since they entered the market in 2007.
>>341996257
Hur hur more CS:GO has RNG bait.
>>342014496
Combos, not moves.
>>342013441
also in halo it wouldn't let you select which map you could play on. in h3 you could veto and it would select something else but you pretty much had to have good knowledge of every map in the game almost
not like in cs where you can be a global elite on dust 2 but play like a fucking mg on inferno
>>342014591
>CS doesn't have spread/inaccuracy
Valvedrones ladies and gents.
>>342014310
well no shit csgo is absolutely horrible and a shitfest of a game, nobody said we should eat shit but that's the only option since nobody in the modern game industry would listen to people asking for a truly competitive tactical/arena FPS.
also overcucks are just as bad as csgo kids. the genre is fucked.
>the funniest thing is the points /v/ tries to make when shittalking csgo just prove that they are too casual to understand the mechanics
>>342014612
Define combo.
>>342005942
>I was just told everyone does this without thinking about it, even through walls.
You can't be serious.
No, everyone can't see through walls nor do they unnaturally lock on to the heads of other players.
>>342014562
15 years ago CS was still huge though.
And CS has always been on par with Arena shooters on account of actually needing not-garbage aim, and actual fucking teamwork.
just look at the score, it's a shitty DM server and he tries to shoot an invincible guy who just respawned
>>342014419
>i rank up thanks to winning duels on duels: the map
wew lad
>>342014780
>define combo
Are you a literal retard who started playing games in the past five years?
No wonder the retards complaining about CSGO are so stupid.
A chain of consecutive hits during which your opponent is repeatedly hitstunned and cannot react, you fucking babby.
>>342014853
CS started the trend of low skill cap games for casuals who couldn't cut it at real games like Quake, Tribes and Starcraft.
>>342014734
Thats not spread nor inaccuracy dumbass.
>>342015021
That's discovered naturally by just playing the game. Nothing in CSGO even hints to the guns having a set pattern.
Now that the dust has settled, can we all agree that CSS was better?
>better graphics
>actually had physics
>better maps
>better user made maps
>not hats type bullshit
>>342015043
any fps that needs an objective except for killing for map movement is bad. although you could simply drop weapons on the map in cs go and call it an arena fps ...I guess
>>342015043
Why am I not surprised that this recent shitposting is just where the "m-muh quake" arenababbys evolved onto.
Quake lost and requires no more skill to play. Move on.
>>342015017
Don't be fooled anon, it was just to show how gamesense and the strategic part of the game doesn't influence the ranks.
I'm still shit, you don't have to feel threatened.
>>342015196
Except, you know, your bullets flying out in a set pattern.
Or are you too retarded to notice where your bullets are landing.
>>342014351
>Do you think SF2 is a shit game because it doesn't show off it's combos, too?
World Warrior is a bad game for a ton of things (IIRC, the panel shows the moves, but that could have started with Champion Edition, I dunno). It's also got a ton of RNG (that never really went away, but at least got toned down enough that it's pretty much never the deciding factor in anything approaching decent level play by the time ST came out).
like, in WW, there's a random chance for special moves to trigger with a single button press, and random chance to get widened input timing windows (I think both of these disappeared in CE)
also, random damage scaling of hits
mind you, it's far from unplayable garbage and the visuals and sound are pretty great (particularly at the price SF2 boards sold for at release), but WW had a laundry list of problems that resulted in a slew of revisions
>>342014648
well yea of course, to actually be good you need to be a well-rounded, knowledgeable player on every map.
again, global elite doesnt mean anything except you can grind out mm games.
mm =/= competitive league play
>>342015429
>Except, you know, your bullets flying out in a set pattern.
You would never ever know this unless you dumped multiple magazines into a wall or looked it up.
>>342014351
not him but knowing combos someone else doesn't because they simply haven't played enough doesn't make your muscle memory any better than his muscle memory
because that's what fighting games are. their reaction time is definitely not better than fps and they both require the same mind games
>>342009004
Lol it literally locked on.
>>342015313
>any fps that needs an objective except for killing for map movement is bad
Why, because you don't like it? Just being different from a standard arena shooter doesn't make a game bad.
>>342015518
.......yes that is exactly what good players do.
>>342015326
Hearthstone won.
Esports in 2020 will be nothing but card games. You dug your own grave, my friend.
>>342015625
With no prior knowledge to the mechanics(which the game does not inform you of), literally nobody would just sit there in spawn and spray at a wall for no reason.
>>342015171
Valvedrones
Perhaps the least educated people in the industry.
>>342015618
no because it hardly requires you to think and move around the map to stay alive. the only thing you have to think about in cs is your team and what they're doing
being in the wrong place at the wrong time isn't a skill
shooting someone once in the face before they see you isn't a skill and is not fun
aiming isn't a skill its just muscle memory based on how much you play
>>342015518
Your bullets make very obvious impacts, retard.
If "actually requiring any thought" means it's LITERALLY impossible to discover then you might as well say that pickups respawning on a timer is something you would never know unless you stood there timing it or looked it up.
>>341996584
this game isnt fun though, its boring and simple as shit, hell anybody can pick up csgo, even if they have never played a shooter before
>>342011616
Is it not anymore?
>>342015964
No other game has recoil patterns, and CSGO does a terrible effort of informing players that there are recoil patterns. The crosshair certainly doesn't help any.
if the skill ceiling is so low, how come the same people are constantly winning tournaments? if the game was rng then you could get no name people all the time.
checkmate
>>342015730
>be shit
>waa waa gaym bad
OR
>be shit
>get on the internet and search for "how2gitgud@csgo"
>pages and pages of guides and videos etc.
wow so hard
>>342015767
>sniper rifles
>spread
>inaccuracy
go play the game
>>342016010
>hell anybody can pick up csgo, even if they have never played a shooter before
Yeah, i'm sure they'll learn that they can't move while firing their weapons, that there's a spray pattern you must follow to land your shots and that some weapons are more accurate than others in no time, let alone master the techniques.
CSGO is a shitty game, i agree, but you don't have to go this far to prove it.
>>342015795
is this bait?
you can accept that there are different types of shooters and call it a day.
cs does not need to be quake
quake does not need to be cs
>>342016206
every game requires skill
even wow was in fucking mlg based on team work
doesn't mean it takes a high amount of skill
>>342015795
by this definition no fps ever requires skill
>>342016214
>have to look up guides to explain mechanics instead of just putting in a tutorial
wow so hard but valve is perfect buy more keys
>>342016010
This. Why do people like csgo?
>choosing your own map for ranked zozzle
>rng spread
>spread goes above reticle
>cant jump shoot
>all 1v1s involved crouching like cod fuccs
>play the same map over and over with the same strat
arena shooters are dead from this shit, ima go preorder legion now then uninstall it two weeks after release
>>342015795
You're a literal retard if you actually think following a present path around a map requires any more thought than deciding which courses of action to take, and how to actively advance into areas held by an enemy.
Or if you think movement/shooting in an Arena FPS is any less muscle memory than aiming in counterstrike.
>>342016292
except the only thing cs has over quake is the spray patterns
quake can take the same kind of skill even if you add teams
>>342016323
not really, quake is way faster, you have to think faster and think about what paths to take to stay alive and youre not instantly dead on site just because someone spotted you
theres a reason cs go/cod wont work in 1v1s because theres no individual skill it's only team work, that's all
>>341996995
Because it is boring as fuck to watch regular joes play as professional soldiers. BUT they have to have the knowledge of professional soldiers themselves to work together.
Realism shooters that are super duper hardcore are fucking fail because of that.
>>341998798
>Too retarded to make a swastika.
Kek. PC competition at it's finest.
>>342016405
forgot about round-based is the only gametype for ranked zozzle, round-based gametypes are shit, cant even play the game, watch someone else for 2 minutes
>>342016405
>all 1v1s involved crouching like cod fuccs
Good one, showing you have no idea what you're talking about.
>>342016487
sight**
sorry
>>342016414
moving around the map in cs (as a team) I guess can be the same as quake
but in the end its just pure team work and muscle memory. you're not good alone
>>342014853
>comparing arena shooters with this garbage
This thread is fucking cancer. Just proves that CS:GO fucking destroying the entire scene. Rest in peace you beautiful bastard. At least all the cancer plays GO now and left CS:S
>>342016214
I don't play low skill cap casual games with random spread on every shot, sorry.
>>342016487
what i meant by comparing the two, is that i would never compare the two in the first place because competitive quake is largely 1v1 while cs is BUILT and DESIGNED as a team-based 5v5 game
>>342016689
>At least all the cancer plays GO now and left CS:S
>Implying CS:S wasn't the most casual and cancerous CS that really destroyed any semblance of skill ceiling and community this series had
Kill thyself.
>>342016782
>cs is BUILT and DESIGNED as a team-based 5v5 game
>team
because that's the only skill it requires
>okay so you have to do this mind boggingly boring minigame of
>if you're going left (holding A) and you want to shoot someone, you have to tap D and then shoot to reset your accuracy
at least quake bunnyhopping was fun
>>342016627
the game is boring camping like a little bitch, intense tactical gameplay
>>342016390
Just as any other game.
If you want to get better by simply playing it without "researching" youre just gimping yourself.
>>342016487
>positioning is not a skill in csgo
>but it is in quake
okay, also cs is a team game while quake is not so dont even try to compare that
>>342016856
>implying CS:GO isn't more casual than CS:S
Okay
>>342015390
proof please
report the screenshot without the censor bar as well as a link to your steam profile
otherwise I don't believe you and bet you have put 100's of hours into the game before hitting this rank.
>>342016487
>Quake is way faster
The movement is way faster, the actual combat is way slower. Far fewer 1 hit kills.
>think about what paths to take to stay alive
Just like literally every FPS ever made?
>and youre not instantly dead on site just because someone spotted you
>waaaaaaah, I made a mistake and I died for it
>>342016632
And quake is just muscle memory and nothing else.Fun fact for you: anything you develop as a skill is muscle memory you fucking retard.
Why do you act like teamwork isn't an important skill?
>>341996257
Wow....
And then people complain about Overwatch, lol. At least something like this doesn't happen there.
>>342016689
>CS:S
>not by far the worst and most casual in the series
Come the fuck on man, you're embarrassing yourself.
>>342017016
>camping for half the match when playing ct
>hard
>>342017112
1 hit kills are a bad thing and it makes me fucking laugh
>>341996257
Same reason why Blizzard is making bank off of a hit scan game and calling it competitive. You fucking mongoloids are bought and sold like cattle you sad disgusting shit sack.
>>341996257
>RNG spread
You mean shit netcode right? It has been like that before GO dating all the way back into beta.
>>342011224
Sorry, if I wanted to play a competitive shooter game I will play something that actually shoots where I aim instead of bullshit spread.
>>342017020
kek
Deagle forcebuys were basically full buys. They rivaled AK's and M4's.
Recoil was barely noticeable, they even had to put immense spread to most weapons.
Movement was also a downgrade from 1.6, bunnyhopping being laughably easy to do regularly.
>>342016984
>the people complaining about counterstrike are LITERALLY whining about camping
It's like I'm really back in the early 2000's.
>>342016942
you dont understand what i mean...
the game is DESIGNED for 5v5s
aka: there are 2 bomb sites. THAT IS WHY 1v1s AREN'T A THING <HELLO???>
how can you even say there is no individual skill thats obviously false
you are fixated on forcing cs/all fps games into a very specific type of shooter because you are dumb
>>342016705
In all fairness, CS:GO doesn't have random spread. Every gun follows a pattern everytime you shoot it. Its just that the game doesn't make this even mildly apparent unless you spend time shooting at walls.
>>342017298
Like what.
Name me one active competitive shooter that does that.
>>342017251
>>342017112
also why the fuck is an attack/defend game ever played competitively
that shit was made fun of in halo 1-3
>>342017047
I'm not posting my steam profile here.
You can believe if you want, honestly, i don't care.
I actually had 160 hours when i reached SMFC. Also i can't prove that i only played D2. It was all i did cause i wanted fast matches before i had to hit college.
>>342017301
dont bother, the fact he even chose source over 1.6 says it all
>>342017508
No, CSGO does have random spread. Incredibly minor unless you're trying to snipe with a pistol, but that's enough to trigger these tards.
>>342012503
Can't find the source.
>>342001778
>why isn't every game a realistic physics simulator
>install CSGO
>play cs_office deathmatch for 4 hours
>uninstall
custom server surfing is fun too, i think i found a warcraft server i was playing in at one point.
>>342017951
>no bulge
Dropped.
>>342017674
next time you want to post proof post actual proof then instead of manipulating people
at face value the screenshot you posted only shows SOMEONE getting global elite rank. It doesn't show or prove how quickly it was gotten or even how it was gotten.
As far as I know the profile that reached that rank is VAC banned for hacking.
>>342017508
Every version of CS has random spread.
>>342016984
thats why Ts get better guns and more money retard
>>342017459
except quake 5v5 would be wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyy harder. cs has literally nothing over quake 3
>>341996820
>thinking tick rates are real
>>341996257
The same reason people play poker.
It's more interesting to watch, and prevents all the champs from being autistic.
>>342018665
>comparing trash CSGO to god tier poker
Alright, you may be baiting but I'm triggered.
>>342018260
It's actually SMFC and it shows how quickly it was reached, at 91 wins.
No i'm not banned, currently sitting at 426 hours.
Some people just have an easier time at the game anon, just because you didn't reach SMFC within 100 victories doesn't mean it's not possible.
It's just a game at the end of the day.
>>342014825
I tried telling him that and he went on the schpiel about looking at your own replays
Bullet Spread = Casual filter
I think Cock of Doody is more your speed if you can't figure out to "magically" pull your mouse a little down when you spray like a retard.
>>342010348
>Which is something that would make sense in a VIDEO GAME.
>video games are supposed to be realistic
Yeah fuck off
>>342018576
>would be
You act like that wasn't a thing.
And that it wasn't dumb, because CTF is a shitty gamemode for high level play.
>>342015205
>better graphics
nigger you blind?
>actually had physics
Added nothing to the game. This ain't halo
>better user made maps
slightly shinier shit is still shit
>not hats type bullshit
"I don't like something that does not affect my gameplay at all"
Take your nostalgia goggles off
>>342018932
ever wonder why tdm wouldn't work competitively in cs?
>>341996257
>forest
>best player in the world
>>341996257
It really does not matter if hes the best player or worst player. His cross was over his head. He was stood still, the only reason he missed is because of shitty game mechanics that they cant even be bothered to have the game show.
Funny thing is if the game actualy showed how much your accuracy takes a hit after jumping and how much your accuracy is effected by fireing the game would have a higher skill ceiling as any pro player would be able to compensate for such things far more accuratly.
Its more like an RPG then an fps. You tell the character where to go and what to do and the character does it to the best of his abilities depending on his skill, status, etc. Kinda like the how morrowinds melee combat worked.
That was completely retarded too.
>>341996257
>valvecucks on suicide watch
>>341998939
If I was a millionaire I would set up crazy shit like this. Fly out 512 arma players from all the various clans and make them have a big deathmatch.
>>342019309
Like TDM works in anything, ever.
It is also, utter garbage for organized, high level play. There's a reason team competitive Quake was rarely TDM.
>>342019274
Behold the cancer that is destroying PC gaming
>Makes valid points
>"Take nostalgia goggles off"
Go back to xbox please
>>342019506
welp
it still works a lot better in arena fps' so..
it would actually be exciting to see how bad it plays in cs competitive...or cod
>>342019435
It was a poorly coded TDM server and he was under spawn protection, anon.
>>342019473
>You can either play a game where the bullets hit when you miss or where the bullets miss when you hit.
I really want to know what shooters the shitposters against CSGO play
At the moment there is no other popular shooter on the market that rewards teamwork and skill like CS does.
Sure, it has flaws, but what shooters are you motherfuckers actually playing that is leagues better than CS in 2016?
>>342020136
>CS
>rewards team work and skill
>>342018860
its ok anon i believe u
>>342019740
4 of the 6 shots were fired after the player had moved.
If your telling me a player can switch weapons then move for a few seconds all while under spawn proc then thats an even shittier mechanic.
>>342015043
Or maybe it just wanted to be a different type of shooter? There isn't a be all end all fps type and one that explore different mechanics are great. Otherwise we'd end up with fps turning into the same boring mess a lot of turn based rpgs are.
>>342019629
>I don't like other people having weapon skins, something that doesn't affect game play in any way.
>subjective opinion about graphics
>valid points
>>342020136
Nothing.
They're the old butthurt arena FPS posters.
>>342020301
You cannot actually believe that it doesn't at all.
>>342020136
I used to play halo 2/3 competitively
chirp me for using a controller the game would still be harder than cs with kbm.
I played game battles in h3
halo is dead so all I play is cs now and it's literally just team work and no individual skill
>>342020384
Most servers remove it when they shoot, not move.
And yes, it is a shitty mechanic. It's also not an official one, it's just the shitty custom gamemode whatever server he was on was running.
>>342020136
Anything with ADS for all weapons.
>no popular shooter on the market that rewards teamwork.
So tell me how CS:go rewards teamwork any more than cod or battlefield?
The way I see it working as a team on a game such as battlefield is far more complex and far more rewarding. not that either are particularly complex.
>>342020136
I'm not a shitposter but when I'm not playing csgo I'm usually playing the UT4 alpha or Halo Online.
>>342020575
also cs is just who sees who first faggot shit
in cod you can literally call search and destroy hide n seek
I didn't even buy cod4 because I knew it was bad and I already thought h3 was bad compared to 2
>people have to act like they're denser than a black hole for the shitpost to hold water
>>342009584
It's not, but he was shooting it too. Every time he shoots, the inaccuracy from shot recoil gets added to the inaccuracy from the jump, so he wasn't giving his aim time to recover.
This would be so simple to grasp, but for some reason he had a static aiming reticle which doesn't show the huge recoil he'd be having.
>>342020680
>buying weapons for your teammates
>callouts through in-game chat/discord/whatever
>pushing together as a team
>defending bombsites, coordinating with each other to make sure everyone has a spot/corner covered
The money system in CS creates an interesting level of play compared to other games
>>342001449
due to how recoil works in the game, after sustained fire, bullets will hit above the cursor
>>342020680
>Anything with ADS
>better than CS
LMAO
>>342020680
>anything with ADS for all weapons
>not literal garbage
ADS is an objectively bad mechanic.
>>342020787
>also cs is just who sees who first faggot shit
So you're saying it's a game where the players with better awareness, faster aim, and better team tactics win?
What exactly is wrong with that? What do you want it to be? Are you a fucking casual?
>>342009529
>Found the 14 year old with 2000 hours and $500 worth of skins
This killed the fucking game. Skins and Twitch are cancer and brought in an absolute memetier community.
>>342010716
>highlander
UGC is shit and so is that game mode
>>342021078
You can do a whole lot of that is most other games. Plus much more.
>>341997286
>join server
>installing endless .pk3's
>joins
>hud full of shit
>cringy 90's taunt sounds nonstop
>everyone hopping around
>200+ ping players
just gonna swooce right in for the kill
>>342021292
im saying it shouldn't let you kill somebody just because you happened to be in the right place at the right time without actually working for your kill and out playing him instead of out aiming him
literally not even good when it comes down to an aiming match
that's why comp quake players don't always like it when theres a rail gun on the map because it's too easy to get picks
also
>awp literally takes one shot
why is this allowed
>>341998632
>>342000457
>>342004673
>>342009512
>>342009529
>>342015607
"It could be cheats, but to me it looks like he was tracking the door angle, and happened to stop moving his mouse for whatever reason whether it was to lift his mouse or because he was distracted perhaps telling his team something and this happened to happen while his crosshair was on the player and they were both strafing parallel at the same speed. If you watch closely there is no mouse movement for the entire time of what looks like him locking on and they are both just strafing at the same speed."
>>342021258
>>342021268
>Forceing the player to aim himself rather than letting rng god take the shot.
>Bad
Here is your you's
>>342021445
>misses the ct's head by 2 meters.
A well deserved death.
>>342014171
>CS is the only even vaguely decent competitive shooter still played
Not decent, just popular.
>>342021472
>why is this allowed
because you have to use utility(grenades)
>>342021472
>im saying it shouldn't let you kill somebody just because you happened to be in the right place at the right time without actually working for your kill and out playing him instead of out aiming him
You "worked for your kill" by seeing him before he sees you, which is the result of smart movement and map awareness and/or good team communication.
You're a retard. First person shooters just aren't for you if this is how you feel, because they literally all work like this. There's a pretty dominant strategy element, it's not pure action and aiming.
>>342021819
you don't always have em and even then the guy just pushes back a bit
>not playing TF2 on stock only servers with cosmetics disabled
Top kek. TF2 is pure skill, none of this RNG spray garbage and 7 decade recovery after jumping nonsense.
>>342021986
>You "worked for your kill" by seeing him before he sees you
>see someone
>gives you a kill
that was hard
>no map movement
>no out playing
>fun
>>342022010
Do vanilla servers actually exist?
I might just try that today if so.
>>342022091
>wahh I don't like first person shooters
Do you have a point, or is that it?
>>342021472
>just happened to be in the right place at the right time
In other circles called as "map awareness"
"Pro players just happen to be at the right place at the right time all the fucking time"
>>342022010
>TF2 is pure skill
>random crits
>>342022010
R A N D O M C R I T S
>>342021990
Which is why you use your utility as an entry? Besides, if you what you said was true then CTs would win almost all the time since all they have to do is hold an angle and they win.
>>342022091
>see someone
>gives you a kill
Which is the result of you being better than your opponent
>no map movement
>no out playing
These both exist in CS and you crying that they don't proves you have no fucking clue what you're talking about
Anything else, or are you done being a retard?
>>342016102
>no other game has recoil patterns
>crosshair doesnt help
have you even played a counterstrike game before?
>>342021986
>which is the result of smart movement and map awareness and/or good team communication.
theres not always a way of you knowing where someone is though. its still just who sees who first
it's just wrong place wrong time and poor team work
and that's all it really is, team work and aim
>>342021990
>you don't always have em
Unless you're on a full save you should always have at least two flashes.
So what the problem is is that you're just shitty.
>>342021258
Rainbow Six Siege
>>342022469
>and that's all it really is, team work and aim
I'm still waiting for you to tell me what's wrong with that
>>342022360
>These both exist in CS and you crying that they don't proves you have no fucking clue what you're talking about
you must be a god at it then if you always know where people are
>>342022307
cts do win most of the time and the only reason the ratio isn't higher is because ts have better weapons like the ak
also maps are built around forcing cts to be sitting ducks even then the t's still get raped by simply being spotted first
attack/defend games are gay desu
>people still attacking CS:GO
>people still defending CS:GO
The only logical conclusion is to not give a fuck.
>>342022635
>team work
>no individual skill/thinking and knowing which routes to take
oh and aim...I guess that's in all fps tho
>>342020862
I have 2700 hours into game, and have never seen this.
>>342022834
>no individual skill/thinking and knowing which routes to take
But that's wrong.
Many watching CS at dreamhack right now?
CS and Streetfighter are about the only 2 games I ever watch being played. NiP vs Epsilon right now
>>342022278
>>342022262
>playing on random crit servers
What on god's green earth? Just because I didn't mention it in my post doesn't mean you have to go full retard.
>>342022836
>I have 2700 hours into game
Why?
>>342022992
Considering the fact that almost every server has random crits enabled and is the actual default setting of the game, that is a pretty important detail.
>>342022919
except in an arena fps you can actually stay alive if you're good enough after someone spotted you, theres no using the environment to stay alive after being spotted
>>342023159
>one game has more focus on individual skill and routes so that mean every other game has zero
ebin
>you can actually stay alive if you're good enough after someone spotted you, theres no using the environment to stay alive after being spotted
Even at high level this constantly happens in CS too
>>342023042
Fun.
And it's been out for a few years.
>>342023358
>Even at high level this constantly happens in CS too
oh you mean the guy missing? that also happens in quake. even then its easier to do than in cs since half the time the way the maps are made it's easy as fuck to predict where people are
and quake does have more focus on individual skill where the other game has less
>>341996257
because they're addicted to gambling. no one gave a shit about this game before that was implemented loolool
>>342023565
>oh you mean the guy missing? that also happens in quake.
So? Does that mean it doesn't happen in CS?
You're an idiot
>>342021546
Except that he didn't lift his mouse, his character was strafing left, which would mean that in order to hold a steady position on that guys body, the mouse would need to be going right.
>>341996257
>>341996820
this happens in deathmatch because that player had just spawned and there is spawn protection
>>342023776
I never miss in cs ;)
and if you're missing you're doing something very wrong
>>342021554
>you need to add ADS to a game for the guns to have accuracy
>Any ADS game not being complete and utter random chance after the first shot
>separating movement and shooting
ADS is the most cancerous mechanic ever added to FPS.
>>342023776
Its easier to hit things in cs because everything moves slower.
>>342023878
Everyone miss.
>>342024064
Your point?
>>342023793
And to add to that, both players disposition is not at a correct angle to hold a steady strafe speed parallel of that to each other. Its possible, however, that chance would outweigh suspicions and evidence seen there for the most part in my opinion.
>>342018860
lmao why are these fucking babbies getting so mad at someone for showing them how little their fucking ranks mean?
Or did i answer my own question?:')
>tfw instakill sniper rifle
The actual game can be fun, but seriously.
>>342018860
Did you solo queue?
>>342002183
They dont, unless youre stupid enough to sell your shit on the steam market
fnatic is 100% legit
>>342023565
So what you're saying is that games that allow you to get shot a few times without dying because you're too shitty to see the other guy or have good crosshair placement so you can shoot back are the true "good" fps?
Have you ever thought that maybe you're just bad?
>>341996584
>I don't give a shit about ranked or competitive play
>>342020071
Mfw looking for a game whereI hit when i hit
>>342024662
i like how his completely smooth hand motion proves it
>>342024662
I hope to fuck they got thrown out for that. Literally no way to defend it.
>>342025148
They will never get thrown out since a lot of the teams cheat. Not only would it make the pro scene a joke but it would kill a lot of the teams.
I really don't understand CS players. It's really, honestly fine that they play a casual game for fun, but they act like they're playing the most hardcore, skill intensive game in existence. Like, sm4sh players aren't deluded that their game is pretty casual, and they're happy about it, but as soon as you question CS's competitive integrity or skill ceiling, you get a ton of rabid fangays yelling at you.
>>342025148
Nope. They just forced Flusha to 'retire' to save the team.
Olof was cheating too, but he wasn't as blatant so people shrugged it off.
>>342024697
The guns have perfect accuracy and oneshot capabilities, and the characters move so slow they might as well be stationary.
What's challenging about hitting a static target?
>>342025924
>and oneshot capabilities
The only gun that can one shot to body is the AWP.
It's pretty clear at this point you've never played CS.
>>342025776
You have to think of cs compared to other current shooters
>>342026086
>what are headshots
>>342026116
So why shouldn't a headshot without a helmet be one hit for most guns?
Stop being a casual shitter and buy a helmet you fag.
>>342025924
>oneshot capabilities
Not the m4 :^)
Don't forget some pistols do though
>>342011293
You seriously don't know how different every shooter is made pre-unity indie boom.
Let alone how they work at all.
>>342025853
>CSGO is so le hardcore guyz xD
>cheating is socially acceptable in CS community
wew
>>342024497
At first they may be pretty annoying but once you know how to counter them with different set of grenades, they will be pretty easy to handle. Blocking his sight with a smoke grenade is superior but a good flashbang or molotov will do a lot of harm to him as well.
AWPs are also expensive and high risk weapons as if they miss their shot they are vulnerable for a short period of time if being caught by a rifler. This is why most of the time you only see one sniper for each team.
>>342026467
>reddit is the entirety of the cs community
>>342026295
Because headshots are so easy when everything moves at the pace of a brisk walk.
>>342026593
this
shitters dont understand the disadvantages of the awp
>>342026809
Then why aren't you dominating the "competitive scene"?
What it sounds like is you don't like bottom fragging and you're trying to get games to cater to you.
>>342025776
what's more hardcore?
>>342014972
Invulnerability cancels when you move. He'd be transparent if he had invulnerability anyway
>>341996257
It's a shame you can't find any 1.6 competitive games anymore.
>>342027098
Minecraft
>complain about sniper rifles being one hit
>almost every game snipers can do that
> surviving a .50 cal
>>342025776
Why do Quakefags go into every CS thread and try and prove their game is better.
Quake players are by far worse.
>>342001678
Yea good luck telling boko haram to stop raping and murdering people because some Neet autists beat them in a video game.
>>342025776
>but they act like they're playing the most hardcore, skill intensive game in existence.
Nope. It's fun and I play "competitive" rules casually because I have fun doing it (when there aren't blatant spin botters and wall hackers in mm).
CS has always been advertised as "realistic" but there are plenty of unrealistic things about it.
>but as soon as you question CS's competitive integrity or skill ceiling, you get a ton of rabid fangays yelling at you.
It's pretty well known as far as I can see that CS is rampant with hackers in mm and "pro" competitions.
>>342001678
That's actually the premise of a YA novel that I read like 20 years ago. Each nation trains three children to perform different tasks (one acts as the commander, one as the timer, and one physically moves the units) in a huge RTS in order to decide international conflicts.
>>342026809
>>342027085
They would be easy if the game didn't have random spread on every shot.
It's the same reason people don't consistently win slot machine tournaments. All the player does is press the spin button, the outcome is determined by the RNG.
>>342027398
>posting warowl
genuinely fuck off
>>342027398
>Thread about why CSGO is so terrible
>Quakefags going into CS threads
Why are Valvedrones so retarded?
>>342027662
>random spread
You keep saying random, and it isn't random.
That you can't understand why you're more inaccurate when you're moving and jumping + recoil just means you're an idiot, not that there's anything wrong with the game.
>>342026092
>good shooting games will never exist again
Don't remind me please.
>>342027098
Pic related
>>342027398
>implying I give a shit about quake
I just want shooters to have actual movement, but for some reason the genre has devolved into point and click gameplay. Congratulations on being an idiot though.
>>342027808
Spread is random and it's on every shot.
>you're an idiot
Ironic post.
How do you practice your aim correctly in csgo anyway? I can play in am, death match, or training servers but it all goes to shit once I play competitive.
>>342027954
You point, click and hope the spread rolls in your favor.
>>342027954
you dont
just try to aim below the head and hope for the best
>>342028061
0/10
>>342027954
It sounds like you are not prepared for situations that you are getting into. Where are you having problems the most? Holding the site? Gaining control of a specific area?
>>342027884
>muh kstyle
>ends up killing the game
>>342027808
>You keep saying random, and it isn't random.
I don't think I've seen any fanbase that has been so uneducated about the game they spend hundreds of hours on.
There seems to be a correlation with low skill, accessible games with collectable microtransactions, casual players and low IQ.
>>342028125
>The truth is bait
How do these people even wake up in the morning?
>>342027954
I find that most people who ask "how 2 aim" have awful crosshair placement. Maybe you should work on that instead of going on dm and instant respawn servers and flick aiming at people?
>>342028335
If that were even remotely true, the sequel (with kstyle removed) would have been more popular. Any attempts to removed kstyling were immediately met with huge community backlash. I bet you're the same kind of retard who bitches about "glitching" in melee.
>>342028472
2/10
Forget skill ceiling, the reason not to play it is that it's fucking boring. It's like the guy who made Microsoft Excel made an fps.
>"get good? Spend hours shooting at a wall so you can learn the arbitrary pattern the bullets go in where you aren't aiming, identically every time just like a real gun!"
Yeah no thanks
>>342027884
You didn't understand my post, but alright. I'm the idiot.
>>342028671
>When shooting rapidly bullets are always precisely on target!
Have you never shot a gun in real life?
>>342028331
I can defend an area but I dont know how to push
>>342028836
>randomly accuse me of being a Quakefag
>say no
?
>>342027790
Go into any CS thread. You will see at least one butthurt Quakefag.
>>342018634
>Thinking real things are fake
>>342028845
>what is sarcasm?
Do they always follow the EXACT same recoil pattern? Shooting with an AK and pulling down left right or whatever it is is retarded
>>342029050
I didn't accuse you of being a Quakefag? I was comparing CS players to Quake players. They're by far the worst fanboys because they hunt out CS threads and bitch and moan.
>reading comprehension
>>341998798
>That pause as he forgets what a svastika looks like
>playing CS 1.5
>bind mouse1 to set resolution to 1x1 then shoot then back to native resolution
>get instant headshots flawlessly because the game checks for headshots first and through the user's own view
>mfw
fun times lads
I've been playing some casual this weekend to slowly get back into csgo. I thought the hacking situation had calmed down some, but holy shit, in almost every game there has been blatant hacking. In fucking casual. I'm talking question mark avatar, dinosower anime shit, 10 hours in csgo, tracking people through walls blatant. I now remember why I stopped playing.
>>342027884
Don't pretend that GunZ was a good shooter.
>>342029448
It would've been great if it didn't have leveling and builds, what made you think it wasn't good?
>>342025776
>Claiming smash scene doesn't get defensive as fuck and defend their games skill ceiling and worth in the FGC the moment anyone calls it a party game.
Yeah ok...
>>342011206
The ranking system was so fucking harsh in Halo 2 it was literally impossible to get to 45+ legit, even the pros back in the day where only around rank 40-42.
>>342029165
>Do they always follow the EXACT same recoil pattern?
>Shooting with an AK and pulling down left right or whatever it is is retarded
Actually yes, the AKM tends to pull to one side during rapid fire and the slant brake is designed to mitigate that.
Firearms having moving parts inside that contribute to recoil.
And while less than an inch off at 25 yards (which may as well be point blank for a gun fight) is going to be magnified when you get out to a longer distance.
So if you're sitting in pit and spraying at someone at drums or goose and you're getting BTFO it's because you suck
>>342029626
It felt like absolute dogshit. Just like every F2P asian shooter.
>>342024662
I'm more surprised that somebody was using an autosniper
>>342028925
First off, make sure that your crosshair placement is good as >>342028505 mentioned. Check that you are always aiming at head level when moving around and pushing in.
There are few things you have to know to attack a site well. Some of them requires a lot of experience (reading enemies) but let's try some simple tricks.
Learn the common spots where CTs usually hold the site. When you are pushing to the site, make sure that you are checking all spots one by one. You don't want to challenge multiple enemies at once as this is usually an instant death. It's also pretty good to try prefiring these spots. Quick strafe, sidestep and shoot.
As I said earlier about awpers, grenades are playing a big part of the site taking. There are multiple very useful grenade training maps on workshop which I highly recommend to try out if you are having trouble making your nades useful. Good nades are always giving trouble to CTs and delays backup from other site.
>>342017525
Rainbow Six Siege
>>342028925
Here is an example of a pretty useful smoke to cover short and car. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UivxzWTcpvo
>>342028925
Push with your teammates (when possible),know the common spots where enemies will be,use smokes/flashes and molotovs if you have.
Terrorists usually push when they get a pick so try to bait impatient CTs
>>342024619
>They dont
>valve takes 75% of all sales
>and 15% from each market sale
Valve are objectively the jewest
>>342022010
Vanilla server have random crit AND random spread
>>342029123
The same way valvedrone had to bring Overwatch into the debate to prove that CS:GO isn't so bad ?
>>341997029
Because you're objectively wrong, sorry kid, better luck next time.
>>341996257
Jesus fucking Christ
If you're aiming at the nigger's head it should fucking hit him.
Who the fuck is behind the design choices in this game
>>342034017
Clearly jews.
They know how to make casual players, aka the majority of the consumer base, keep coming back for more. Follow the money.
If CS actually had a high skill cap, casuals would quit in droves and never come back.
>>342011293
Have you ever shot a gun before?
>>341996257
exactly why I don't play this garbage, disgrace to the name
1.6 until death
>>342037752
1.6 was even lower skill ceiling because it had several recoil patterns chosen at random as WELL as the spread on each shot.
>>342037914
go has a faux skill ceiling, rng lottery and high tick that doesn't even fucking work
>>342037752
CS:GO works the same exact way as 1.6
People like OP don't know how to play
>>342027264
.50 cal what? .50 beo? .50 BMG? .50 ae?
I'll assume you mean .50 BMG, as it is the fabled machine gun and m82 barrett rifle round that literally tears limbs off of a target.
Desert eagles (le ebin .50 cal gold-plated handgun) shoot .50 ae (action express), not .50 bmg which is the real '.50 cal'. It is a very slow but also very heavy round. It would do quite a bit of damage, but even the weakest rifle cartridge used in a 'sniper' would make the little bitch handgun cartridges all blush and be nearly equal with the slower (and less accurate over distance) .50 beowulf.
2200 J of energy in the .50 ae vs 3690 J in a .308 win vs 3900 J in .50 beowulf vs 20,195 for .50 bmg.
why is energy important when talking about rounds? Hydrostatic shock.
so .50 cal means fuckall. Please specify.
>>342021445
>left-handed scum
>missing and complaining
uninstall CS
>>341996995
>play dayz mod epoch
>break into people's bases all day
>killing tanks with rpgs
>looting and selling people's
>killing people who paid for server starting kits
>stop eating and drinking food
>survive off blood bags off my victims
>1100m sniper shots at 3 pixel sized humans
>play csgo
>gun sprays nonsensical random patterns as if it was controlled by randomized gale force winds or gravity wells
>people are so autistic they actually enjoy this game
>play battlefield 4
>like 15 layers of bullet randomizations no bullet pattern
> bullets are effected by so much shit that sometimes the bullet cones out diagonally off screen and passes a foot in front of you diagonally firing of into space
>gun is facing forward but fired like it was on the ground pointed upwards toward your face
No. Just stop
>>342026593
this
if you miss you're fucked 90% of the time
Autosnipers however need to be removed from the game. A gun that can be countered by either a one-hit kill or an AWP hit while having spray&pray 2-hit-kills needs to go.
>>341996257
How the everloving fuck has this DM spawn protection webm from so long ago still being used as bait? Do people just rag on the game without knowing shit about it? How many of you thought this was a casual match?
Go to the cs:go general once, avoid the stupid ass gaybois, and every thread these stupid ass webms get laughed at and never work as bait.
But on /v/. Yeesh.
The guns do have a crazy spray pattern for sure, but they're not random. Each gun has its own spray which widens as your competive rank increases. Learning where the first 3-5 bullets in your spray go is key to getting quick headshots, firing in bursts is also important to miniseries spray. Why do you think people sometimes fire a load into the wall during the round or so of a game? It's smerfs checking how wide the spray pattern is compared to what they're used to.
Other than the shooting, the game can be pretty shitty you're right. It's all about the player base and if you're not partnered with a decent team then gg, that's why I always play things like CSGO and Overwatch with friends.
The other complaint I have is that you're always playing on fucking Dust 2 or Mirage when in Silver, but thankfully I'm out of that shitter rank.
