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When is /v/ ever right?

You guys always said "no this won't be a tf2 killer" "This is going to be casual" "Blizzard does terrible launches" "This game won't be successful" "Battleborn is going to be better"

Well look at us now /v/. 10 million strong. competitive play. flawless launch. successful beyond imagination. Battleborn in the dust.

So apologize.
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S-s-sorry.
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Enjoy while it lasts and before cosmetics ruin the game.
Remember TF2 ...
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>>341957716
Cosmetics? They already have cosmetics. It's not going to ruin the game. We are getting more heroes, more maps, more game modes, and competitive play. Tf2 doesn't even have competitive play. Stop comparing overwatch to some lazy valve game they didn't pay much attention to.
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It's good but I question how much longevity it has without mods or private servers.
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>>341956939
>has literally 0 depth

People will get bored in less than 3 months.
They will keep pumping new maps and new heroes but eventually there will be more people quiting the game than playing it.
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>>341958050
Look how long blizzard games last without mods and private servers. They know how to treat a community and build it. Just look at wow, starcraft, and hearthstone. They knew they had to put their A game and release something good that doesn't rely on crutches like mods and private servers.
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>>341958249
Why is it always 3 months? Look how popular it is after a month. This isn't even counting all the days in beta.
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>>341956939

It'd be perfect if not for the play of the game shit.

Teams literally cannot grasp the concept of defending the point because everyone is too busy trying to get play of the fucking game.
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>>341958249
Don't mind me, posting some depth.
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>>341956939
>Battleborn is going to be better

The ones who said that have probably alreayd hanged themselves as we speak
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>>341957950

>cosmetics don't ruin a game

Stopped reading there. Go to Overwatch general and tell me that with a straight face.
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>>341957950
What I'm missing right now is choosing your playmode. I'm tired to rely on the automatchmaking without a chance to select what you wanna play. Also we need more maps, but I guess those are coming in time
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>>341958249
More depth.
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>>341958970

>MFW I finally did this Genji tech only to fall in that bottomless pit
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>>341959129
/owg/ as pretty much all of /vg/ btw is much more comfy than /v/ and not full of bitter retards who complain about everything and can't enjoy gaming anymore
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>>341959224
Now that's a fucking ninja
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>>341959291

Oh yes, because I don't want video game discussion in my video games. Everything needs to be fanart and memes, right? Pic related.
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>20 tick
>casual hitboxes that allow you to get headshots around corners and over ledges
>spammy MOBA abilities on every hero, the simple act of walking around a corner is a risk when so many skills can one-shot you
>almost every map is heavily biased towards one side

It's a mediocre game at best, can be a good time killer with friends but will never be a solid competitive shooter. Everything Blizzard makes is popular and get's shoehorned into e-sports, that doesn't mean it's good. We learned this from Hearthstone and HOTS.
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>>341958249
>i've never played this game
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I want to be a basic Cola duty fag and kill everything using soldier 76 and make all the hipsters mad.

Is he very high tier or just shit/average?
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>>341958249
More depth for ya.
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>>341959504

Even if I took a timestamp of my copy of the game, you would probably find an excuse to say I'm not allowed to criticize it. It happens every time.
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Friendly reminder that /v/ is never right.
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>>341959641
criticism is fine, but if you're going to say shit like
>the game isn't gonna last more than 3 months
you're gonna need something to prove that the trend is decreasing fast enough to the point that it will be a blip on the map in 3 months.

This game will be going strong until blizzard does something to fuck it up.
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>>341956939
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>>341959441
>Oh yes, because I don't want video game discussion in my video games.

Which is why /owg/ is perfect for /vg/ - no one ever talks about Overwatch as a game in the first place, they're all just talking about their waifus.
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>this is going to be casual
but that is correct. Not only that but if they added a TDM Playlist it would be 3 times more popular than anything else because of how incompetent and casual the fanbase is.
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so we agree that Koreans are the true master race right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JcIEY9-mPn4
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>>341959597

He's all around good.
Decent heal, sprint is nice, gun has good range and headshots deal a lot of damage. Right click can be hard to use but is great for close encounters or slow targets.

Q is all around fantastic, especially with a Reinhardt protecting him (not that you'll usually need it, people tend to run in terror when he activates).

He's a great choice for pretty much an situation.
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>>341959804

but isn't that why everyone wanted it to kill TF2? Because "gameplay was never discussed and people only talked about hats and waifus"?

Overwatch didn't kill TF2. It BECAME Tf2.
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>>341957950
>Tf2 doesn't even have competitive play
It does. I watched some at 3-4 AM this morning. It was a thing.
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>>341958249
apologize
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>>341958970
>>341959224
fuaaark.. I've never seen anything like this and I know I'll never be this good. Loving playing genji though, even though I'm complete trash. Sorry people like me cost a lot of you guys the game (^:
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>>341958249
Apologize right now
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>>341960074
>>341958970
>>341959224
>>341960152

Literally takes less skill than rocket jumping.
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>>341960074

nice save
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>>341957716
Cosmetics dindn't ruin TF2.
Broken p2w weapons did.
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>>341956939
aside from the smooth launch /v/ was right about everything else
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>>341960219
>muh rocket jumping.
>just aiming at feet
>skill.
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Haven't played since launch. Shoulda played the beta so I knew not to bother. Shoulda waited to buy Doom as well, over a month later and still no patch for the developer mode bug.
Video games suck.
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>>341960219
show us your skills then...oh wait you have nothing. Go back to your dead gaem.
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>>341956939
Overwatch is so diverse with its trans gender heroes. The guy with the pink hair and the other guy who now calls himself Mercy are looking like generic puppets, but this doesn't matter.

The gameplay and maps are garbage, but it doesn't matter because the cash shop is so cheap and the game is so approved by the sjw comminuty, that an apologize is really necessary.
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>>341960319
>>just aiming at feet
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>>341956939

>look at us
>us

Blizzard shills get out.
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>>341960461
http://steamcharts.com/app/440
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totally what was said, cause /v/ loves gearbox, and thought battleborn didnt look like rancid shit even before it flopped.
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>>341960461

>Dead game
>has 50k users constantly despite Overwatch supposedly killing it and being 10 years old
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>>341960074
literally the only class in the game that takes skill
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>>341959441
>Porn archive
Why doesn't every general in /vg/ do this?
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>hey tom
>yeah mark
>how are we going to mark characters difficulty?
>were they created for the absolutely braindead?
>yeah
>do they have a "press e to take no damage" ability?
>yeah
>3 stars, they're clearly the most difficult and will DEFINITELY NOT ATTRACT SHITTERS WHO NEED UPWARDS OF TWO ABILITIES TO GET THEM OUT OF A SITUATION WHEN THEY GET OUPLAYED EVERY FUCKING TIME

>flawless launch
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>>341960056
Yeah with like a thousand viewers. Overwatch already has a 100k tournament, TF2 never had more than 15k in a decade of competitive play.
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>o-overwatch t-takes no skill guys
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qytdp4obq9g
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>>341960834
literally one class
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>>341960834

>guy pushes someone off of cliff
>WOW GUYS THIS TAKES SO MUCH SKILL
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I'm sorry Blizzard-sama
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>>341958970
>>341959224

Pressing q and killing a few people isn't depth.
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I play OW and Bb.
Like me both.
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>>341960074
What am I supposed to be looking at here? Spam attacks on the point, then hover a bit? Yeah total depth there, makes chess look like snap.
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>>341960648
>50k my little pony autists

wow its totally not dead!!!
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>>341960957
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>>341956939
I doubt Overwatch will die but it will go F2P.
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>>341958970
>>341959224
>g-g-guys overwatch takes skill and had tons of depth!
>posts Genji webms

Stop embarrassing overwatch players that dont use an easymode character, faggot.
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>>341961131
Blizzard is too scared to even post concurrent player numbers.
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>>341961131

>my little pony autists
>when Overwatch has a constant fanbase right from tumblr

It's a lose/lose situation, I'm afraid.
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Overwatch would be more popular if it was on Steam instead of being locked behind Blizzard's own DRM service.
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>>341961152
dank
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>>341956939
>When is /v/ ever right?

Only about 1% of the time.
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>>341961494

I don't understand this. What's the problem with it being behind Battlenet when the game is completely online, anyway? Besides, this was inevitable when people cried and wanted digital copies of games instead of physical.
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>>341961773

Because I'd prefer not to have multiple DRM clients on my computer.

Steam, Origin, Uplay and now Battle.net?

Where does it end?
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Why does everything have to be a big shitfest?
Play what you want and let others do the same you colossal faggots.
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>>341961674
nah about 30% id say. Just shit on everything and around 1/3 of the games thaty come out are shit so
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>>341961978
But then 4chan and by extension myself would have no reason to exist.
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>>341961868

>Where does it end?

It won't, I'm afraid. I see a day when every publisher known to man has their own service to maximize the profits for their company.

Just imagine all the different launchers you'll have. 2K Games, EA, Ubisoft, Blizzard, Bethesda, Devolver Digital, Activision, Capcom, Konami (if they ever come back), Telltale... the list goes on. And most of these already DO have their own launchers.
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>>341958970
AND THEY RUN WHEN THE SUN COMES UP
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>>341961868
Steam and Battle.net only. Everything else can fuck off. Battle only gets a pass cuz blizz's stuff is consistently comfy.
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Why do tf2 players always have to defend their game?

It's actually getting embarrassing at this point.
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>>341959464
>So many skills can one shot you

Name one non-ultimate that can one-shot you.
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>>341962580
They're afraid of their inventories becoming worthless and their hats that are "worth" $500 will "become" worthless.
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>>341962946
depends on the hero
a stray bullet 1 shots zenyatta
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>>341962580

>nobody is allowed to criticize OW

Okay.
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>>341962946

Roadhog's alt-fire.
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>>341957716
the items in TF2 are NOT cosmetic, they change gameplay. Cosmetics strictly affect only looks, nothing else.
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>>341963173
No, a charged widow shot used to one-shot a Zenyatta. Nobody has any fire that deals 100 damage in one shot and can be used reliably.

>>341963223
Which has probably the wackiest range of any move in the game, and if hit at anything outside of it's sweetspot of distance will deal minimal damage.
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>>341957585
You can't just say sorry, you have to buy 2 copies of the Origins edition.
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>>341958970
>>341959224
>>341959601
>>341960074
>>341960152
HOW?
HOW THE FUCK DO I PULL THESE OFF ON THE PS4?!

THIS IS NOT FUCKING FAIR!
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>>341963404
>Origins edition
So not worth it.

There isn't a single skin I use from that nowadays, except Overgrown Bastion, and I switch that out with my Gearbot and Steambot skins all the time.
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>>341963467
With the exception of maybe that first Genji WebM, everything posted can be done on a console.

Git gud.
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>>341963467
High skill ceiling dude. don't you forget it.
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>>341959601
wow its as deep as fistful of frags!
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>>341956939
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>>341963257

>the items are not cosmetic

Uh, yes they are? Only the weapons change gameplay, and you can get those for free on the store.
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>>341960491
It is what it is. Just shoot at the ground to get lift off. It's pretty much what pharah does except she's got more air mobility without doing damage to herself. Rocket jumping is such a gimmick in tf2 whereas it's a technical skill in over watch. Junkrat is able to do the same to get higher and it's just as easy. Who would risk taking damage in a competitive match just to get in the air where you are a sitting duck? Explain to me how rocket jumping is at all skillful.
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>>341956939
>expecting /v/ to ever be right
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>>341959601
If this is what you unironically call depth, then Dota 2 must be incomprehensible to you.
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>>341963395
depends on what you mean by reliably then
reinhardt charge deals 350 damage if pinned, roadhot hook into fire can one shot zenyatta and it's so braindead easy to do
alternatively, throw discord orb on 50% of the cast and one junkrat attack and they're all left with 20hp
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>>341963882
VANTAGE POINT
HIGHER GROUND

Not that you would get it anyway.
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>>341963882
It's something that he knows how to do because he's been playing TF2 for over a decade. Now the tricks that were fun and new for TF2 aren't and he feels bad because all the time he put into getting good at TF2 is worthless, so he tries to make himself feel better by attacking the thing that's taking TF2s place.

It's sad, really.
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>>341963508
It doesn't matter if it's worth it or not, you'll be apologizing with 120 bucks.
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>>341964091
>comparing a moba to an fps

wow.

This is why fps are killing mobas.
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>>341956939
nobody said most of those things

>"This is going to be casual"
was said
and it's true

enjoy your 50% winrate
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TF2 is still at 50K daily. Meanwhile OverMeme is dropping like a rock. You know what else had 10 million players? The Division.
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>>341957716
The reason cosmetics ruined TF2 was because of how they were obtained and the fact that they could be traded and sold. It then became nothing but groups of retards idling for hat drops to sell to each other.

Add in the bullshit, completely imbalanced loadout items that were gotten and traded all the same and you were left with a game that, when people WERE actually playing, rewarded paying money or wasting time, and otherwise was nothing but people wasting time.

Overwatch actually won't let you idle to gain XP for loot boxes and even if it did, you can't trade or sell items so there wouldn't be a point. It also doesn't have any items that affect gameplay or break balance beyond what the characters already can do.
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>>341964332
AAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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>>341964130
>Reindhart charge
That move is suicide in 90% of situations. That's why it deals so much damage, also you're likely to miss most heroes with it.

Hook into primary fire isn't one shot, it's half of Roadhog's abilities, and it requires you to reliably hit the hook
>Can one shot Zenyatta
Wow, so one of the heaviest damage dealing combos in the game can only reliably one-shot the squishiest character in the cast. Wow, it must be really hard getting across corners with such powerful one-shot moves
>Orb of Discord is a one-shot

This is so stupid. There are no moves that effectively act as a one-shot (outside of a charged Widow headshot). Zenyatta doesn't have much health, but he makes up for it by having DPS out the ass. Thanks for learning a little bit about Overwatch, try giving it a play next time.
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>>341964332
Where's TF2?
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>>341964521
TF2 isn't meant to be an esport that competes with League and Dota. OverMeme is.
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>>341964284
Different person senpai. I pre-ordered overwatch, I'm in the 90s right now.
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>>341958318
The only game there that doesn't have mods is Hearthstone.
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>>341956939
>competitive play
>depth
This is my favorite meme.
Also push off, TF2 died a long time ago.
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>>341964490
>>341964332

DELETE THESE FUCKING POSTS RIGHT NOW!!!!!!!
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>>341964332
>implying peak dota is the equivalent of tf2 at all
dota had a peak of nearly 1 million players today, and tf2 is sitting at 69k
it's also a tad bit disingenuous to screencap twitch stats in the middle of manila desu
by your logic dota is dying even faster based on this screencap literally just taken, since it's not at 220k and has far more decay in viewership
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>>341964521
Who gives a shit? It's 9 years old. If it had more viewers than Overwatch, Overwatch would be doa.
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>>341964601
Oh. Okay. So it can still kill TF2 than, or other fps games.
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>>341963751
>and if you pay a couple bucks for this hat and this combination of weapons the enemy sniper cant headshot you anymore
this is a sin
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>>341964332
>>341964490
Biggest problem is Overwatch is fucking boring to watch. And Blizzard is as always incompetent with balance, so you get very samey teams. Being able to choose multiple of the same character may have been a mistake.

Basically I enjoy playing it, but I have zero fucking desire to watch someone else play it.
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>>341964293
>comparing a moba to a moba
Yep.
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>>341964792

[citation needed]
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>>341964824
This. I love playing it but watching someone play it is like watching grass grow
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>>341964824
>Basically I enjoy playing it, but I have zero fucking desire to watch someone else play it.
That's how i feel about all games.
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I'm pretty tired of the game already.

Somehow the game feels stale as hell, everything is the same everytime...and I've played tons of games like this for hours upon hours.

The honeymoon phase is crumbling for most of the people I know as well. If they don't crank out interesting content (lel skins won't do shit) pretty soon it'll deteriorate on next remotely interesting game release.
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>>341964824
And that's exactly why it will never have a serious e-sports scene. The game lacks any complexity and depth. Same reason why nobody is playing or watching HoTs - much better alternative already exist.
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>>341964959
>>341964824
>>341964910
>Video Game fans found to enjoy playing video games, do not enjoy watching other people play video games.

Stop the presses!
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>>341962564
This really.
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>>341956939
It is pretty interesting that 3 weeks later it's still being talked about in /v/
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>>341965038
and yet twitch is made for gamers to watch gamers. So, who's right here?
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>>341964986
You mean like the new maps, new modes, new heroes, and competitive play that are all confirmed? Or the updated arcade mode that changes every week?
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>>341964959
I can get impressed by a really good play in dota, or in Tekken or any of those types of competitive games, but not so much in Overwatch. There's nothing for me to sink my teeth into as a viewer. It's like the difference between watching a football game, and a game of bowling.
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>>341964776
You can view TF2's numbers anytime, because unlike Origin Valve isn't afraid to show their playerbase. See >>341960582
50k consistently over the past few years. It actually went up a little in the past month.
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>>341964792
>>341964901
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=pQ80LmSc_g4
watch the first minute
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It's alright, hardly worth the praise it's getting. I think it's mostly the effect of every other shooter being generic cod or battlefield type games. It's a good game, nothing amazing, and just not played enough.
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>>341958249
>This level or realism

how can tf2 even compete?
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>>341965081
Twitch is a cancer.
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>>341965216
no argument from me on that
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>>341965205
To be fair, this was nerfed. No cosmetics have effects on gameplay anymore, only weapons do.
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>>341965212
>What is hitscan
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>>341965141

IF we're going by their mutation mode in SC2, it'll suck.
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>>341965141
Arcade modes already been mined and about 2-3 modes, at best, are interesting.

Competitive is coming soon, but thats the only main focus on that update.

Maps, skins, and modes (which will just be the maps anyway) is an unknown distance away. Prepare for soon™ to be everywhere
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Just wait for new quake to repease and all thats will be left in overwatch will be waifu faggots weebs and all that sort of cancer playerbase (if thats not already their only playerbase)
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Doesn't matter. People are buying and playing Overwatch, and even Manchester United has expressed interest in acquiring a team. The game has gone nuclear.
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>>341965308
Yes, and?
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>>341965141
>competitive play
Pointless without a massive overhaul to the rule set. Each player should only be able to switch between 2 selected heroes and there should be a banning phase.
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>>341965417
Lel, must be nice being underaged
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>>341965205

>4 yr old vid

Step your game up.
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>>341965518
You sure seem to be confused, since it isn't hitscan. But, it's okay Anon.
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>yfw you bought overwatch
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>>341956939
TF2 has been around for almost 10 years, why does something need to be a "tf2 killer"
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>>341963882
>just shoot at the ground

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fNUy648pYM

You must be 18+ years of age to post on 4chan.
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>>341965506
>Pointless without a massive overhaul to the rule set. Each player should only be able to switch between 2 selected heroes
>Each player should only be able to switch between 2 selected heroes

This is like saying that in Chess, you shouldn't have access to every piece, you should only have access to two kinds of pieces. This is hands down the most fucking thoughtless garbage I've seen posted on this site in a while. You are THAT kind of stupid.
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>>341965552
nothing redeems this trash desu
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>>341965506
Nah. That's MOBA stuff. Overwatch is about adapting on the fly.
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>Never forget
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>>341965552
>implying anyone with "skill" still plays TF2
>implying it isnt just my favourite place to discuss MLP
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>>341965591
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>>341965626

Except for the patch that literally removed it?
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>>341965595
Jizzard fags missed the boat for TF2 and are desperate to try and "beat" it.

It's too bad Overwatch's playercount is falling so quickly, Blizzard doesn't even want to show it, that's why they hide behind meaningless statistics like "10 million players" (not copies sold, 'players')
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>>341965591
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>>341965747
Removing it doesn't redeem it. It means that it no longer actively hurts the game, but the damage is done. Toast can't be bread anymore.
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>>341959441
>implying vidya is discussed here
>implying it's not 90% shitposting like my post
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>>341956939
Tbh it just made me want to get into tf2.
Made me realize how much better the design is in tf2.
Hell watching the same guy play them both made tf2 look way better
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>>341965624
>Comparing a minimal-strategy required, casual shooter videogame to Chess
Literal retard.
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>>341964332
Tournament was going on for Dota 2 silly billy.
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>>341965776
yeah, they're hiding behind almost doubling players since launch.
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>>341956939
>When is /v/ ever right?
Never.

That is why you should always buy the games /v/ hates.
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>>341965801

>food analogy

hah.
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>>341965906
[citation needed]
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>>341965869
see
>>341964490
Soon it will not even be in the first row. Hearthstone made Blizzard think they could pop out any turd and have it be the next e-sport.
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>>341965776
>He thinks 10 million copies sold is better
10 Million copies sold could be piggybacking off of reselling. Player count is what matter, and at 10 million, you're just shitting yourself with sadness that you're favorite game to hate is popular.
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>>341964293
There is literally a guy, in that video, who is a copy of a moba character
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>>341956939
Purely because you sound like an asshat:
Go Fuck Yourself.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_oBRaJWIVJI
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>>341965849
>Thinking overwatch would be better with only 2 switch options

I would call you retarded, but retarded people would think up a better ruleset than that.
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>>341965942
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>>341965308
>hitscan
>projectile has travel time
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>>341965369
How the fuck is Lucio balanced.
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>>341965961
http://www.pcgamer.com/overwatch-already-has-more-than-seven-million-players/

So slight hyperbole on my part, but still. The game is growing, and at an alarming rate.
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>>341966010
>believing that overwatch has 10 million players
Just an hero dude if you are so stupid
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>>341965846
T. Veteran Tf2 player
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TF2 doesn't have widow waifu so of course this game is superior.
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>scrublords think overwatch is about reflexes and "skill"
it's more like team strategy, ultimates are just a way of spicing things up
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>>341966170
He isn't. But shhh... Lucio doesn't annoy people, so he's maybe unlikely to get nerfed. Just play him and be happy.
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>>341966015
>Blizzard is so incompetent it misses the boat on a genre created inside its own game
>Proceeds to put the most popular character in all their own games out of spite
>Even their fucking FPS

It's like pottery.
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>>341961130
Spotted the player who doesn't protecting their mercy
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the game is fucking shit

I tried to refund but I was past the refund level cap (level 5) gutted Tbh I fucking hate the game
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Li9ltgngSb0

If the game has no depth then how can it's fan are this attached? It's just that good.
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Why would you ever take the opinuin of retards who spend all day posting "it's shit" about every game all day long?

These retards think that every game is shit and spend all day shitposting because they think it is cool and edgy to shit on everything.
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>>341963882
The fact that you damage yourself to get a better shooting position and kill someone, or a few of them, or maybe escape from an impossible situation and than kill them is what makes it skillful. If you take the damage done to yourself out of the equation there is no skill involved because the skill is to be so good that you can balance hurting yourself to get a kill on your opponent.
If it were easy than everyone would do it effectively, that's why in Overwatch you have the pharah version, so everyone can do it, since Blizz knows their audience and they know them well. The hardest game they made was 3 vikings
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>>341965948
youre supporting a company who at one point wanted to boost sales by making a cosmetic ,which is only feasibly obtainable through cash, an actual advantage in gameplay. they retracted this because they knew it would backfire, although they wish they could leave it in game and have nobody care
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>>341966010
A copy sold is a copy sold, nothing more, nothing less. You can't resell PC copies and used games are not as big as you'd think for multiplayer games on consoles.
Meanwhile "players" could mean anything. It could mean "played the game at any point in time", or it could mean "actively played the game recently". Companies would like you to believe the latter so they can overinflate their game's success.
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>>341966082
And yet you haven't provided a single argument why that would be a bad ruleset. Only a completely inane analogy. Nobody cares about competitive games that don't require planning and commitment in pre-game phases, but I guess you'll find that out pretty soon.
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>>341966446
Ebic m8, you fit in on this anonymous image board.
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>>341965776

They say million players because there are places in which the game is free to play like in Korea.

And given the statistics I would say at least 3 million players are from worst Korea alone.
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Give it a few months . Blizzard hasn't had enough time too completely fuck it up yet . I have zero trust in this company anymore.
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>>341966214
>7 million in a week
>only 3 million more in a month
JUST KEK MY SHIT UP
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>>341966521

Better than supporting a company that wanted to push paid mods 5 years before Valve tried to.
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>>341956939
It didn't kill tf2.

How do you kill whats already dead?
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>>341956939
The game is already dying. It's flavour of the month, Blizzard isn't putting any content in it and is a lazy as fuck company. They've just been riding on the wave of cash from wow. The entire company only releases to keep it's stock floating, not to actually make games. When that happens you have to pray the company dies so innovation can actually occur.

Also Battleborn was always going to be shit, the game might aswell still be in alpha. Gearbox are just as bad as Blizzard, funding their shit ideas with borderlands money but only producing stale as fuck ideas.
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>>341966453
>black guy loves Genji
So unsurprising
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>>341966214
So it sold 10 million across 3 platforms? In other words it sold less than the yearly CoD installment. Amazing.
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>>341966486
No, there are many different kinds of people on /v/ that each have their own unique opinions on things, but because this is an anonymous forum, your retarded ass thinks every person that hates a game is part of the same group that must hate every game, because it's impossible for someone to dislike something without being a big dumb doodoo head- Maybe one day you'll grow up and stop taking people's opinions on games as personal attacks towards you.
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>>341966535
Starcraft? I guess in choosing your main, but that's pretty much set by practice. I mean, maybe you think nobody cares about it, but people still tend to regard skill in it, as the height of competitive gaming achievement.
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>>341963467
it can all be done on ps4 but you'd probably have to switch Lucio's jump button with L2. You might be able to pull it off with a claw
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>>341964824
Blizz isn't incompetent at balance, they make games which are impossible to balance because they know nobody wants them, they all want to steamroll. So you have patches in which chars take turns in steamrolling.
People who buy Blizz games must be objectively the dumbest alive.
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>>341966814
I didn't realize you were one of those CoD guys. Yeah, your game sells better than everything else. I concede. Kids love that shit.
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>>341965614
delete this
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>>341966814

They never said 10 million sold though.
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>>341966816
Hello, newfag.
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>>341966521
>free drop
>cash
wat
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>>341963882
You're committing to your rocket jump by using one of your 4 rockets to it and some of your hp to gain an advantageous position on the map compared to other classes. With Pharah you don't have to commit to flying at all, just press the jump pack button and you're good.

Assessing the situation for a good rocket jump takes a lot of skill so you don't get fucked by not having full ammo or not having full hp.
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>>341958416

The hype is already dying down
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>>341966779
Glad I'm not the only person who sees it.
Blizzard as a company moves at a snails pace for even the smallest bit of new content (look at WoW if you don't believe me) they are also arrogant as fuck and refuse to acknowledge when they make mistakes .

The company made good games at one point yes. But those days are long gone. All they care about now is what is the bare minimum of effort they can put in and still make $$$.
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>>341962946
hanzo scatter arrow
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>>341967050
>OUR GAME IS LITERALLY LE MOST SUCCESSFUL GAME OF ALL TIME!
>"it isn't"
>B-but we never SAID it was successful!
Overshitters never cease to amuse me. The backpedal is real.
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>>341967018
I haven't bought a CoD game since 2007 and still Overwatch is far from being a groundbreaking success. And that amount of players is certainly in no way an argument in favor of its longevity.
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>>341967295
What do you mean by that?
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>>341956939
It just dawned on me that this is a containment game for all the people I dislike.
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>>341967398
He meant that I've watched all the people who were previously playing OW daily stop playing it daily and start bitching after they play it about issues (either perceived or objective).
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>>341965614
Yeah fuck off. Junkrat can do it but doesn't need to. So can pharah but who would. Once you get to the point you're already down 90 percent of your health.
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>>341967354

I played Hanzo only a few times and I still don't understand how that fucking attack works. I mean, it makes sense to fire it in an enclosed area like a hallway, but when out in the open and just get nailed by it is what boggles my mind. Is it basically like Roadhog's alt-fire and you have to get it just right or what?
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>>341959732
Y-your just shitposting! Get the fuck out of here with that!
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Easiest way to tell if something is flavor-of-the-month is if the fantards desperately try to convince you that it's not flavor-of-the-month.
Happened with MLP, Undertale, and now Memerwatch.
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>>341967284
Pharah doesn't rocket jump, she flies, they took the concept of rocket jumping, twisted it and made it into its own class. She's supposed to be some aerial artillery, most of her time is spent gliding above the map and raining down missiles.
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>>341967621

aim it at their feet from an obtuse angle, most times all shards go straight at the body
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>>341967770
easiest way to tell if something is good is if /v/ contrarians call it FOTM and shit all over it.
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>>341967472
>why would I want to cut my travel time in half in an objective based shooter

That's why they're called pocket medics son.

Also Junkrat is a fucking garbage character. You might as well just play Pharah unless you hate your team.
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>>341967770
I don't know if you can really call MLP flavor of the month though. It lasted a good couple of years before the real freaks ran everyone semi-decent off the franchise.
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>>341967372
I suppose we will see. Only the growth in people playing it, suggests longevity, but I suspect Overwatch will do only so much better than TF2 in terms of players over time. It has overtaken LoL in Korean cyber-cafes, though.
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>>341967770

>Call everything what it is (MLP, Undertale)
>Memerwatch

That's not even that good of a name. I'd go for "Blowverwatch" or something.
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>>341956939
>already losing players
>discussion already dying down
>replaced by ITS STILL ALIVE shitposting on /v/
Its already on the downward slope
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>>341966535
>Nobody cares about competitive games that don't require planning

Having more hero options gives you more room to plan. And Overwatch is entirely based around hero switching. That's why you're retarded. It's like saying you should take the styles of out DMC. You're literally cutting out the core gameplay, you fucking imbecile.
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>>341967875
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vwqTAFQlJOg
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>>341967857
Pic related it's you.
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>>341967770
But Undertale is a single-player game of fixed length? How could it possibly be a hot-topic long-term? It's not like there's a e-sports element to it or anything.
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>>341968021
This. Some enemy teams on certain maps require very specific counters. It's part of the game.
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>>341968021
To give you an even better analogy. Your argument is like telling competetive Street Fighter players that they have to sign up with a main, an alt, and only play those two.

Kill yourself, you are hurting the human gene pool by being alive.
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>>341968117
Overwatch as an e-sport is already dropping and didn't make the splash that Hearthstone did: >>341964758
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>>341965369
>not slamdunking him into the pit with airblast
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>>341968226
In terms of Twitch viewers?
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>>341968226
>as an e-sport
Wow who gives a shit?
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>>341968229
I did right at the start but it's fucking Lucio, he got bumped a bit, grabbed another wall and kept going counter clockwise.
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>>341956939
Blizzard games are like that. They come with a shiny exterior that maintain the illusion for a couple weeks. That's when you start to realize how shallow and badly they are designed. Once the honeymoon period is over, I expect OW to start bleeding players pretty damn fast. Like Diablo 3 in fact.
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>>341967902

TF2 has been around for 9 years.
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>>341960648

No shit, third-worlders literally live off hats. Same with CS:Garbage
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>>341968436
Blizzard does.
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>>341968074
>console
his opinion means nothing
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Cleared an offensive push and held for the W with 1 minute left. Shot it to the exact middle and cleared the turrets that were assisting heavily.

Probably my top 3 favorite moments.
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>>341968226

>e-sport
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>>341967331
Exactly. They funnelled all the money out of wow when they could have just kept building upon it. The game should really have 5x more content than it currently does then they spend so much on Titan and shit the bed. Half these companies need to get their shit together.
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>>341968651
Well good for them but no one else gives a shit if it becomes an esport or not.
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>>341956939
Overwatch players so bored with the game that they'd rather shitpost on /v/.

Color me surprised. Nice 3 gamemodes and no maps.
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>>341968545
>Blizzard games are like that
>couple of weeks

Yeah, remember how short lasting most Blizzard games are? Starcraft? Few weeks. WoW? Year tops. And Diablo? The fact that they made three of them doesn't mean anything, because it's clearly just temporary hype!

Idiots on /v/, I swear.
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>>341958249
then
>less than months

now
>less than 3 months.

next you will say 6 months
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>>341968226
>Overwatch as an esport before teams are formed, competitive mode is even out and any sort of tournament post launch is organised with MLG/ESL
You're pretty silly
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>>341968545
I think you're ignoring WoW. The MMO which maybe killed every MMO released since, and perhaps into the future. Also, their RTS games, which I'm pretty sure are still the top competitive RTS games out there?
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>>341956939
>competitive play.

WHEN????
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>>341968728
You forgot Hearthstone, but I suppose that's because it only lasted like a week out of beta.
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>>341968728
You do realize even Battleborn has more players right now than Diablo 3 right?
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>>341968728
Name a game of theirs made in the past decade that has been a long-lasting success
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>>341956939
>"no this won't be a tf2 killer" "This is going to be casual" "Blizzard does terrible launches"
These were true my dear Blizzdrone
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>>341968668
>CURRY

You're a huge faggot. Congrats, you got a multikill on the highest damage, biggest AOE attack in the game.

Who's ever gotten play of the game with a D.va ult before?


My top 3 moments are getting a legendary card for a game as McCree, getting a sextuple kill with Zarya and getting 40 eliminations as Winston
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>>341968808

Exactly. WoW did so well it's own future success was hindered by it's communities cumulative expectations.

WoW was so good it imploded and took the MMO genre with it. Nothing was ever the same since.
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>>341968885
Define success specifically first, otherwise you'll just move the goalposts.
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>>341958249
I'm already bored tbqh. Try to get on now and play alone since my friends have already moved on and the PUBs make it damn near unplayable.
>kek I paid my $60 I'll play however I want tyvm!
Fuck Hanzos on attack, man. Fuck them.
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>>341958970
>literally what every rocket jumping soldier does but easier
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>>341968873
Really? This game from 2016 has more players than a game that came out like 4 years ago and was generally considered the worst sequel of a 3 game series?

Color me shocked.
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>>341968729
Always the same.

I remember when R6 Siege came out, first it was lol xd DOA. Then it was lol xd dead in a week. Then it wa lol xd dead in a month, then 6 months, then complete denial saying it was dead all along.

/v/ truly is full of the dumbest shits on the internet. Why they feel the need to shit on every single game and shitpost all day long convincing themselves that all games are shit and failures I will never know.
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>>341968994
Why would you buy the origins edition? Some shitty skins and goodies for other blizzard games aren't worth 20 bucks.
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>>341968963
So you think Overwatch is going to kill team-based FPS games, now-and-forever? I mean, following in the footsteps of WoW, is about the best possible option for any game from any company.
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>>341969034
They can't afford to buy them.
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My refund got accepted. This game is pretty much a MOBA with guns. Fuck that. The character models are nice but that's about it.
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>>341969087
I don't think it's that good, but the fact it overtook LOL in fucking Korea says something.
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>>341968959

But none of those things are what I was proud of. It was a DEAD CENTER perfectly placed shot that took speed and trajectory calculations on a snap decision.

It also wasn't a PotG, another thing I never boasted about.

Also, KD's don't matter as much seeing as how if you do 1 damage you get a kill if they die by teammates fire.

This is what I strive for. Round domination. Check the time it took from beginning to end. That was teamwork.
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I'm not really bored of the game, I just wish the game was a bit more rewarding. Level 50 now and I can only say I've got four items that were worth it and the rest are just sprays and voices.
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>>341969204
Not really. LoL is dying since they introduced the dynamic queue.
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>>341969186
>This game is pretty much a MOBA with guns
Dude, really? That's like buying a Persona game and getting upset at all the nipponese. It's the fucking premise of the game dude,
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>>341969186
>moba with guns
>no creeps
>no gold
>no resources at all
>no base
>no towers
>no leveling up
>no jungle

you're worse than those people that compare random challenging games to Dark Souls
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>>341969186

>This game is pretty much a MOBA with guns.

Nooooo shit.
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>>341969245
I don't expect to get a skin every time or something, but yeah, I wish there was something more.
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desu I hate both of the gametypes they have and the maps felt like they were mostly made by people who never designed an FPS before.

The animated shorts are better than the actual game, and the porn is better than those animated shorts.
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>>341969034
Except it is dead. When even Skyrim is beating your game, you know it's a goner.
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>>341968974
You mentioned Starcraft, WoW, and Diablo, although Diablo was stupid to bring up. Name a game made by Blizzard int he past ten years that has come anywhere near the success of SC or WoW. Then name any game made by Blizzard in the past ten years that you consider a success.
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>>341969238
>It was a DEAD CENTER perfectly placed shot that took speed and trajectory calculations on a snap decision.
Not that guy, but you are definitely overestimating how hard it is to place a D.va SD.
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>>341969252

Trying to explain rational reasoning with the anti-Overwatch crowd is like trying to have a conversation with a Trump supporter. They are wrong, will fling shit for answers and only give shallow responses glittered with memes.
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>>341969359
Hello, dickhead.
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>>341969389
Overwatch.
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It's fun with friends, I'm bored of solo though
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>>341956939
yeah but the gameplay is absolute casual shite as expected of acti-blizzard
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>>341969415
How buttmad can a Blizzshit shill get?
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>>341969238
>1,000 damage as a D.Va
>about the same in blocking
>Not even a bronze in objective time

This is an incredibly mediocre performance.
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>>341969034
Uh, R6:S was DOA dude. Only twitch memestreamers were propping up the corpse Weekend at Bernie's style
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>>341969419
What's the matter? Facts getting your butthole puckering? Well check this out: dead game
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>>341969391

maybe, but man did it feel good

and thats why i love this game. because its fun and even when i lose i still play another match.
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>>341969415
So is "ten million players" the Blizzard equivalent for this?
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>>341969529
That's all that matters. If you're having fun then enjoy.
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>>341969472
Yeah, random pub players that resist using mics or communicating in general in a teamwork based game kinda suck the fun out of it.
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>>341969516
SHUT THE FUCK UP IDIOT!!
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>>341969509
>>341969516
Are you trying to fit in?
No one thinks you are cool fot hating on games, everyone just thinks you are a dickhead.
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>>341969496
It was a 2 and a half minute game, you genuine quality retard
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>>341956939
Nigga for every person that says one thing another says the opposite. /v/ is always right and /v/ is always wrong because /v/ is a mob and not one person.
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>>341956939
Everything you've mentioned is true but:

>This is going to be casual
>competitive play
This game is casual just like LoL - it's primary target audience - is casual. It doesn't stop people from playing it competitvely because casuals dislike having no chance against someone clearly better.
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>>341969596
Man, if posting facts is "hate" then steamcharts.com must be the most hateful website on the internet.
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>>341960219
>deflecting a flashbang to stun the entire enemy team
how is this comparable to rocketjumping?
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>>341969707
Why are you such a retard?
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I never get tired of OW fags trying to paint their game as even remotely skilled. Have fun in your little paddling pool.
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>>341969596
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e
a
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>>341969615
You get that medals are relative to team performance right? So not even getting a bronze on ob time means that you, as the tank, were on the point less than 3 other people on your team, and considering it's unlikely that those other 3 people were also tanks, it's far more likely that you need to learn to tank better (Although that might be a problem with D.Va)
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>>341969615

Exactly, we marched it from one end to the other. I harassed every assault with boosts and shields with my team beside me doing the same.

>theres a reason I got gold in kills. because we all ate, not just one guy who wants to top meters.
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>>341956939
>"no this won't be a tf2 killer"
Nothing changed in tf2 playerbase,it's still the same as 2012
>"This is going to be casual"
It is casual.
>"Blizzard does terrible launches"
It did a terrible launch with barely any maps, hero roster unbalanced as fuck and shit matchmaking.
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>>341969783
Idk you haven't countered any points yet and have posted nothing but insults and "NO UR RONG!!!". Seems to me like you're getting pretty angry at nothing.
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>>341969793
Ebic m8 you are such a cool dude! You fit in with other autistic retards on an anonymous image board!

Do you feel poud?
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>>341969796

we had a reinhardt. i know because i was him first and the level 55 came in and picked him, so i went with dva...

>B-b-but
Shut it. You can't steal yesterdays joy today. No matter how much you try.
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>>341956939
why should I?
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>>341969890
You have no valid points you fucking dumb shit. You are so childish and desperate to shitpost that you can't even see how pathetic you are.
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>>341967801
But the point was that Pharah gameplay was deep. And it's everything but that.
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>>341969936
I might just be butthurt because I play support a lot and there's nothing more disgusting than picking up the fucking gold in objective time as Mercy (except maybe getting the gold in elims) and it happens to me a lot. Like seriously? Can none of you fuckers with way more health than me do your fucking jobs?
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>>341969983
>>341969910
Holy shit this is embarrassing. Keep bring eternally butthurt and eternally btfo
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>>341969983
Yes, here's my point
>R6:S is not in the top 25 most played steam games
>R6:S is getting beat by singleplayer games
Care to argue instead of being mad and sad?
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>>341961130
1. player knocked the other team off the platform
2, while be knocked off roadpig grabs player's mercy
3. player glides above mercy, so she can use you to pull herself out of the abyss.

this doesn't show to much skill, instead it shows some fancy maneuvering, that is only possible due to each classes special moves. hence "depth"
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>>341961130

Pharah hovered over the bottomless pit to save Mercy from a shameful death.

Are you blind?
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>>341969983
Haha haha keep crying retard
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>>341970075
I can just tell you are an under age faggot.

>>341970098
Go ahead and keep making yourself look like a retard.
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>>341970198
dead game
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>>341970028
Neither is Soldier or any TF2 class if that's the argument you were getting into.
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>>341970198
>>341969983
>this fucking guy
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The only lasting contribution of OW will be its fanart and SFM. The gameplay is already becoming boring and one-note for many.
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>>341970198
Keep crying, faggot.
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>>341967472
what a fucking retarded team, i can't believe none of them noticed the fucking bombs and noises coming from behind them
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>>341970163
Keep being 13 years old thinking it is cool and edgy to shitpost about games.
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>>341961130
But anon, you don't get it, hovering with a champion that is literally made for hovering takes so much skill!
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>>341970256
Keep crying, faggot
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>>341970256
as opposed to being mentally 13 like you? lel
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>>341970070
>there's nothing more disgusting than picking up the fucking gold in objective time as Mercy
This shit kills me. I'll be in a team with a Roadhog and like three Reapers and not a single person can stay on the point for more than half a second before their autism kicks and draws them to the enemy spawn to stretch out our team and make sure the enemy takes the first point with basically no effort.
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>>341964959
SC2 can be interesting to watch but i fucking hate playing it
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>>341970256
lol keep crying
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>>341970225
>>341970242
>>341970250
>>341970317
>>341970320

Just look at these pathetic children thinking they are being le epic trolle on le internet.
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>>341969327
Fuck off. It's the same shit.

It's the team fight aspect of AoS games. By your logic anyway Blizzards actual AoS shouldn't be an AoS because it lacks a lot of core things found in DotA and LoL.
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>>341969942
>>341964758
>>341964490

>severly engrained esport vs newly released game

I can't account for Surgeon Simulator though.
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>>341964758

>People still watching League of Pando Media Booster in the year 2016
>People actually watching a fucking TCG

Boy, is the twitch audience fucking autistic.
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>>341970379
KEEP CRYING FAGGOT
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>>341970379
keep crying
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>>341970379
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>>341967472
I thought you could kill yourself with the wheel.
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>>341966170
he isn't. i've always thought there should be a 5-second limit to his wall ride before he has to touch the ground.
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>>341970104

>literal goalpost moving
keepin it classy I see
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>>341970379
Lmaoing at ur life
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>>341970379
Holy shit you are pathetic
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>>341966267
>i don't like the game therefore the company advertising it is lying despite the fact that social media literally won't shut the fuck up about it and hasn't for over a month now
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>>341970379

kek'd f@m
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>>341965614
how is this not an easier version of quakes rocketjumps?
you don't even have to keep the moment between jumps.
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>>341970425
>thinking the audience that chooses to consume their media vicariously would be mentally stable

These people are literally cucking themselves out of playing these games by watching other people play these games.
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>>341970495
nice argumentum ad populum strawman
tu quoque
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>>341970495
How is he strong enough to pick them up?
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>>341970431
>>341970435
>>341970442
>>341970508
>>341970581
>>341970603

Epic.

You are such cool guys, I bet you fit in with all the other cool guys on this Chinese memes and frogposting board.
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This thread is why mobile posting is cancer.
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>>341970684
デッドゲーム
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>>341969942
Does this mean that you think dota, LoL, and surgeon simulator are the best games out right now?
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>>341970732
What difference would it make if mobile posting wasnt allowed?
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>>341970684
R E K T
E
K
T
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>>341970684
Stay mad stay sad
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>>341970681
Retard strength.
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>>341970648
argumentum ad lapidem unto you mate
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>>341970805
>>341970815
Epic.
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>>341956939
>This is going to be casual
>implying it isn't
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>>341970396
Exactly.
A newly released game is already losing with older games.
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>>341970859
DEAMGADE
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>>341970648

*Cocu

lrn2français
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>>341970953
The fuck are you talking about? Twitch numbers are based entirely on what tournaments are going on, and what LIRIK, summit1g, and a few other ultra mememeisters are playing
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>>341970750
いいえ!
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i will when they make fucking reinhardt fun to play
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>>341971045
Which is entirely what OWs viewers were based on for its entire honeymoon phase
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>>341969415
>the Blizzshill doesn't support the holy emperor

surprise there
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>Get carried away with 12 consecutivee wins last night
>Suddenly 1 minute que time and the night ends on us facing an impossible team with absolute garbage pug allies
>Been on a 7 loss streak this morning
>Check stats
>Winrate down back to 50%

I don't. What?
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>>341966521
I'm kinda late dor this but if you were referring to the bonud given by equipping the snaggletooth hat+darwin's(+sleeper i think?) then it is a bonus given by the set, wich will make you survive ONE headshot at 1 hp, and if I remember correctly you need to sacrifice 2 weapon slots to shitty weapons nobody serious would use. Enemy snipers can't oneshot you, but neither can you headshot anyone, wich means youare only good at bodyshotting tards as opposed to being a million times more useful getting pickoffs with stock rifle+jarate. And you still die on 2 hits from anything. So tldr it wasn't even a staight upgrade, in fact it was a troll/noob/fun set
And now they removed set bonuses too so whatever
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>>341971223
at least we got this tonight
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>>341969749
>airblasting a rocket to explode the entire enemy team
>>
Those were marketers saying that.
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>>341970240
Anybody can fly as Pharah. Can you do a long chain of rocket jumps in tf2?
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>>341956939
it is casual though
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>>341965369
Why don't they make a game where you only play like this? Like there's hoops and you're on rocket skates and you try to slam dunk your opponents while riding on walls n' shit. It's kind of exciting to watch.
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>>341971301
That's more you's than I can possibly conceive
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>>341971228
>gain mmr
>play against enemies too good for you
>lose mmr
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Quick question: any of you actually play video games for fun and not to try to back up your insecurities?

I love playing competitive games as much as the next guy but all y'all need to step back and learn to have fun in video games that aren't Dota clones.
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>>341967362
the strawman is even more real

>>341966814
for a brand new IP, that's pretty fucking impressive
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>>341970787
It would keep a lot of retards and normies out.
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>>341967472
>console
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>>341970974
>tu quoque
>french
This must be bait.
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>>341971485
pretty quick too, the thread got destroyed by the flood of reactions and died almost immediately
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>Demoman was overpowered as fuck for 10 (TEN) years before Valve decided to nerf him

Would love to see a valvedrone try to explain this one away tbqh
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>>341957716
TF2 was broken by the ridiculous range of weapons in the game that felt as though they were put in as a cool idea rather than as any form of balance.

The main issue with cosmetics is that it ruins the really nice art style the game had. They have these solid, clearly designed characters, then they deck them out in retarded hats and shit.

It also doesn't help that the devs are aware that their community is massively autistic. They know they can get away with just releasing shitty cosmetics instead of putting work into cool maps.
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>>341971716
>>Demoman was overpowered as fuck for 10 (TEN) years
He wasn't. Unless you're talking about Medieval servers.
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>>341971404
I don't understand this logic.

>My game is harder because they made it really difficult for the player to move around whilst achieving the same level of movement in another game but still having drawbacks like health loss.

Why is artificial difficulty touted as a feature?

It's like having a marathon runner have his shoe laces tied together so he has to shuffle to the finish line , do it for many years, just to be on par with low level runners who dont have their shoe laces tied.
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>>341971735
Basically this, anyone with a brain dropped TF2 after the billionth community content shit.
It was good at first, but then they just started throwing shit at the wall hoping someone would buy it.
Anyone who says otherwise is probably brain damaged.
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at least overwatch isn't as dead as tf2
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>>341971809
>my game is harder because it makes things harder
Yes?
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Zarya is the most skill based character in the game.
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>>341968252
>Eliminated Moot

delet ths
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>>341965212
DELETE THIS
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>>341971496

I'd atleast see a fucking game, not a faceroll.
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I played Overwatch during the beta but felt pretty meh about it.

There's a lot of media about the game that's still tempting me to pick it up. It looks fun in video but wasn't really when I was playing it. Should I let the jews win or trust my feelings?
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>>341971404
Please post an official map where rocket jump chaining is beneficial in any way whatsoever

Oh wait there are none at all because Valve patch out anything that upsets the lowest common denominator, AKA the only people that still play TF2
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I don't understand these threads. I hate Overwatch for multiple reasons but I'm not autistic about it. Even then I admit it's fun.
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>>341972026
if you didn't enjoy it, don't buy it?
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>>341971559
Yeah, it would be if it wasn't a blizzard game
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>>341971404
I was crouch jumping with rockets and stickies before it was even a thing.
You want a fps with complex movements that actually take some effort to use properly, play ut2k4.

I made that map exactly 10 years ago.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4d0QnasfkM

That doesn't make OW any less fun.
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>mfw under 3.0 kdr with my main 76

i feel the shitter in my veins
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>>341972026
Buy it anon, every goy's playing it
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>>341971809
How come rocket jumping is artificial difficulty? The explosion knockback mechanic isn't even exclusive to soldier alone. Even a pyro can do a rocket jump, although not as effectively.

And your analogy implies that OW is the bad runner who needs all the handicaps they can get to stand any chance.
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>>341972053
Did you read the OP, he sure wasn't hating overwatch.
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>>341972120
Hey, Dad is my favorite character too.
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>>341972052
Any 5CT map where you want to get map control before the enemy team. Not completely rocket jumps, but demos jump around as well in payloads to get a sticky trap ready. Or at least it used to be this way when Iplayed comp.
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>>341972212
I was referring to the mongoloids having a REEEEEEEEE fit about Overwatch.

And OP is just fishing for those sweet, sweet (you)'s. And I'd say he got a big haul today.
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This is why I play Melee. Hardest game ever created sans Starcraft.

Nobody can talk shit except for FGCfags who think it's easy and have "b-but I'm not going to play it anyway it's for kids" mentality.
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>>341967472
>nobody reacts to the jump, trap, bombs, damage or the wheel being fired up
LMAO
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>>341972052
Landfall
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>>341971925
My point is that it's fucking stupid and annoying. It's counterintuative and not fun to do.
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So, everyone here's gotten at least one legendary card, right?
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>>341960074

you're alright
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>>341972681
I got one with McCree.

...I don't play McCree.
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>>341972384
I did. Biggest haul of the day. Don't even play OW or TF2. :^)
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>>341972403
The (You) you ordered sire.
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>>341972645
Rocket jumping isn't mandatory or necessary in any situation. It's just one of the many ways to play soldier in some situations, increasing mobility with drawbacks.
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>>341972806
I've only ever seen one, I got one with McCree. Once.
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>>341972403
>"b-but I'm not going to play it anyway it's for kids" mentality.
But it is easy, and its for kids
The reason people dont play it is because it relies too much on RNG and useless data, that and theres no real reward for doing so.

If we were talking multi-million dollar prize pools sure, but max Melee puts out is like $100,000 and the title of "Biggest autist on the planet" as the downside.
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>>341956939
That's what you get for ONCE MORE giving a shit about someone else's opinion.

When is 4chan gonna be underagies free?
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>>341972852
>Rocket jumping isn't mandatory
Really? I assumed that you had to constantly be using that movie in order to play TF2. I assumed it was mandatory to always be rocket jumping
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>>341956939
6 hours! every time I play this game i sink 6 hours into this game. and it goes by so fast.

as simple as the game is I'm glad there's something really fun to play this gen. this gen has been lackluster up till now.
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>>341972910
>I would play melee if they didn't ONLY offer $100,000

Yeah fuck off faggot. You couldn't play Melee if people wanted you to.
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>>341956939
>Can't even choose what game mode you want to play
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>>341972946
Rocket jumping in TF2 is like bunny hopping in CS. It helps, but isn't required.
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>>341972875
Mine is the one that makes him look like the Lone Ranger, but not the one with him in a Zoot Suit.
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>>341973018
This happens to me.
>Go to room
>sit down
>light up a joint
>play overwatch
>stop playing overwatch at some point the next day, only to start playing again that day

When will it end.
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>>341972681
Got one as Lucio.
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>>341960963
If you had played the game you would know that most Genji players die as soon as they press Q.
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>>341973106
Bunny hopping doesn't help at all, and rocket jumping is merely a gimmick which barely helps on a map or two.
You know, the maps that usually only casuals play anyways..
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>>341973157
You're mistaking cards for skins. Cards are what you get at the end of a match, people vote for them. A legendary is when you get 10 or more votes in a match.

Also that's a great skin, even if you don't play McCree (which you should because McCree is dynamite)
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>>341958249
>th-th-the servers will b-b-be dead after 3 years! You'll s-s-see!
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>>341961185
>Genji
>easy mode
Literally one of the hardest characters to play well.
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>Master Overwatch has shit leaderboards

>Check who the top roadhog is
>Same average enemies hooked
>Higher Whole Hog Average
>Behind in best by 1
>Higher total hook accuracy
>Higher in game hook accuracy
>More time on fire on average
>Higher win percentage
>Behind in KD by 0.05
>He's #1, im around #5000

I wish this game came out last year so i could sit around all day playing it
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>>341973167
>play overwatch
just one or two matches
>pic related
well i guess I didn't need to sleep today.
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>>341973213
Honestly, dragonblade is probably the easiest ult to stop. The only thing close is a really REALLY stupid symmetra that puts her teleporter in a dumb spot.
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>>341973018
I cant remember the last game I paid full price for that I have enjoyed as much as Overwatch. I thought I was finally getting bored with video games, turns out I just hadn't found the right game.
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>>341973086
Yeah its so hard to grind 20XX for a week and learn all the retarded tech then play some easymode character like shiek isnt it anon ;^)
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>>341973279
Yeah, and the most common character to be used poorly.
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>just a stupid Bastion getting buffed by Mercy being protected by a McCree, a Junkrat and Symmetra turrets
>my stupid fucking team can't counter pick and destroy them

God

Damn it
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>>341972026
If you have several friends to play with then sure get, but if you're solo just reinstall TF2 and play that for a week instead.

Also even if you do have friends good luck hoping they don't get bored after a few weeks/months and then leave you to suffer alone with pubs.
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>>341973267
Oh, I've gotten one of those cards before as Lucio. He's fun to play as.
And yeah, it's a fantastic skin, just my shitty internet causes more issues than I can reliably play McCree with. I've got at least an hour in with him though so there's that. His nerf kinda killed it for me.
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>>341973392
Stop misusing jokes that you don't understand.
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>>341973106
If you're not rocket jumping as solder then you're just gonna get shit on by the ones that do.
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>>341973431
>Playing as Mercy
>Nobody on the fucking team will switch to counter a Bastion
>Bastion is dumb, keeps pointing his turret form at the Tanks
>Literally just go pistol for half a second and dumb a whole cartridge in him
>Take the point

There are honestly games were I think I would do better with 5 AIs than the shitters they match me with
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>>341973431
>clear out the capture point by myself with an ult
>capturing point
>enemy team respwaned and aproaching
team? guys? where is everyone?
>lose capture point


what the fuck are some of these guys even doing?
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>>341963218
Sure you can but it's kinda funny that the "criticism" is always framed as "it's not TF2 so it's shit".
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>>341956939
That may be a big number but here's my question with that

A.) How does that affects my concerns, views, and problems with Overwatch?

B.) Out of the 10 million players you claimed, how many of those are still playing or dedicated to the game?

I know DOTA2 has a tournament right now but if you claimed that there's 10 million people who love this game, Overwatch should be in the top 3 most viewed games in Twitch right now. Even a card game has more views than Overwatch.

Also, I haven't played Battleborn.
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>>341973279
>Literally one of the hardest characters to play well.
>Press E to negate damage
>Press shift to run away/go in with ult for free POTG's
>Spam double jump, A and D and wall climb to never take damage
>And if you do, just press E to run away

If you honestly believe that Genji or any other character with a "Press key to negate all damage" ability takes any form of skill to do well with, you're actually the type of retard they designed Genji specifically for.
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>>341956939
>This is going to be casual
It IS casual as fuck you dumb fucking retard. God I hate this stupid Smash generation.
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>>341973615
They're off ""flanking"".

I love it when my team unilaterally decides to flank the point, and I get to be on the point by myself the whole game.

My objective is always good though, so there's that.
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>>341964601
>Overwatch is meant to be a competitive esport
[citation needed]
>>
>Play as Mercy
>Completely dependent on the rest of the team to win fights and complete objectives since all I can do is heal, buff and rez them to keep them fighting
>Finish the game with a gold medal for eliminations and silver for damage dealt with her peashooter

god fucking damnit
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>>341973673
>game views on twitch reflect how good a game is
shit taste
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>>341973709
>God I hate this stupid Smash generation.
>Smash generation

You're mentally incapable of maintaining yourself.
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>>341973717
lol wish these guys actually used mics though (on console at least)

I honestly feel that I do most of the work on some of these matches. push the cart while everyone is off fighting each other not even paying attention.

take an objective that is completely deserted as well.

lol
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>>341973757
This happens to me so many times it isn't funny. Also
>tfw you play as Roadhog and outheal the Mercy

HOW CAN YOU BE THAT BAD AT PLAYING MERCY. HOW.
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>>341973695
>someone looks in your general direction
>press E
>they wait it out
>start hopping around hoping they can't hit a moving target because you're shit and can't aim your shurikens
>>
I don't understand why people keep posting how many twitch viewers Overwatch has after the initial release.
Would it not make sense that after watching it, they are now playing it and thus there are less viewers? Because more people would rather play a game than watch it?
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things overwatch players are afraid to do.
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When's Competitive? Will this alleviate having so many dropkicks on my team?
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>>341973695
>Press key to negate "all" damage

You can't even get your basics right. Try playing Overwatch sometime instead of complaining about it on /v/.
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>>341956939
>flawless launch
>nobody could get in for the first 15 minutes

Yeah okay pal.
>>
My god, FPS babies never shut up do they?
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>>341973098
>no mods (apart from shitty weekly brawls)
>no custom maps
>only 6v6
>20 tick servers
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>>341974014
God shadman's art is terrible.
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>>341972120

4.30 with 24 hours played

>tfw when the character you're best with is the most generic fps character
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>>341973673
Because Overwatch is meant for playing, not watching.
And I mean that very literally because the features to improve the viewing experience for spectators are effectively non-existant.
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>>341973978
>play Zarya
>Everyone stays behind you
>Even the other tank that you need to keep your energy high
>Nobody pushes

I think playing as Zarya just lets everyone else feel like they can just be shitters without consequence because of how much ass she can kick.
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>>341956939
It has critical issues it still needs to iron out.
>us
Fuck off.
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>>341972120
>>341974074
KDR is probably the least important stat in Overwatch. Start looking at your medals and start looking at your ob time and ob kills.
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>>341972120
As you should, because all you have to do to get a kill in this game is just be a part of it. Your KDR reflects both kills and assists in this game.
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>>341973673
And minecraft sold 7x times more and has less viewers.
What does it mean?
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>>341974182
Like what? What "Critical" issues?

>>341974198
Assists are their own thing.
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>>341972120
>-1 ass
How? Did she have butt cancer and have to amputate?
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>>341974194
>medals
>do 1 dmg, get elimination anyway
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>>341974316
>He doesn't understand how medals work
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>>341964130
Zenyatta either needs to get more health or get an increased movement speed.

Definitely needs a little boost to either of those. or both
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>>341968087
nope, not even tumblr
pic related is you though, hipster faggot
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>>341974124

Ah yes, Lich Syndrome.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qOvoWo1XFj8
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>>341973978
Kings Row, attacking the first point, I was Winston (the only tank on our team), enemy had two Torbjorns, a Widowmaker, Mercy, Junkrat and Mei. A whole bunch of times I managed to leap in, bubble up on the point and take out one or both of the turrets, every time I would fight and draw attention for a good twenty seconds before dying alone, every time my teammates would be nowhere to be seen, just fucking around on the wrong side of the wall. Spammed 'Group up with me', used my ult and spread the defenders all over the place, still nobody bothered to come in and back me up.

Eventually we captured the point, and then the team decided to push forward. Very far forward. Leaving me alone, sat pushing the payload, while they went off and deathmatched miles from anywhere.

Every time there was a teamfight I carried those fucks so hard. A big fucking monkey attracting all the attention, all they had to do was shoot the distracted enemies and not fucking die to turrets for the thousandth time. Fuck knows how we won that match.
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>>341974353
He had more health in beta and was completely unstoppable. Zenyatta is probably one of the most balanced heroes in the game.
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>>341958970
Cringe
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>>341973913
You're a fool if you think thats how any engagement will go down

>someone looks in your general direction
>press E
>they wait it out
>start hopping around and spamming right click for free close range damage
>use shift to either run away and wait for the next engagement or use it to clean up the kill which you earned so much by spamming right click and being the smallest hitbox

>>341974009
>Negates/Reflects Widowmaker/Hanzo Headshots
>Negates/Reflects Widowmaker Trap
>Negates/Reflects Hanzo Scatter/Sonar
>Negates/Reflects Helix shot
>Negates/Reflects Zarya beam
>Negates/Reflects Pharah Ult
>Negates/Reflects Roadhogs Ult
>Negates/Reflects Reapers Ult
>Negates/Reflects High Noon
>Negates/Reflects Flashbang
>Negates/Reflects literally cold air from Mei's gun
>Negates/Reflects Symmetras beam
>Negates Roadhogs hook
>Negates/Reflects Junkrat shots
>Negates/Reflects a billion more abilities im not thinking of plus any sort of basic attack

Anything he cant fucking negate/reflect you can walk out of, or knowing Genjis just shift and double jump out of.

He was designed for the legitimately handicapped.
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>>341974426
>Don't hit him from the front
>No reflection

Nice try moron.
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>>341974264
Like not being able to choose the game mode, along with the maelstrom of balance issues Blizzard will inevitably nerf into the ground because that is how they typically solve such problems.

There is also the issue with some cosmetic items making it confusing to tell who is who at a glance which has no place in a competitive environment.
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>>341973773
>>341974258
Funny thing is, I recall someone claiming that Overwatch is good because of the views it has on Twitch. If someone gonna present me bullshit, I'm gonna return the favor.
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>>341974478
>Hit one of the smallest characters in the back and only the direct back when he's designed to flank
Fuck you're an idiot.
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>>341974529
>Like not being able to choose the game mode
You can do this
>along with the maelstrom of balance issues
Name 3 balance issues

Neither of these are critical. Balance issues are literally the epitome of non-critical issues. Enjoy actually being a fucking moron.
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>>341974395
>while they went off and deathmatched miles from anywhere.
so much this. wtf . hopefully ranked will make it better.,


>shoot the distracted enemies and not fucking die to turrets
people never take out the turrets either. they expect someone else to do it. so i do it and we start winning. I die ONCE!!! and we lose the whole point. they win a whole objective point while I'm running back to it.

I know its not worth getting upset but man some of these players have bad habits.
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>>341974426
>Negates/Reflects Zarya beam
>Negates/Reflects literally cold air from Mei's gun
>Negates/Reflects Symmetras beam

But Deflect doesn't protect Genji from any of these. It only reflects projectiles or hitscan weapons. It does protect against melee hits but it doesn't reflect the damage from them.

Literally play the game.
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>>341974603
Seems like you got baited, anon.
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>>341974603
>someone eats shit
>ill eat shit too just to show him
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>>341974605
>Moving the goalposts
Is that that retard strength of yours at work?
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>>341973298
Blizzard is too afraid of releasing an API for people to make websites with actually legit stats because they don't want people to feel bad :(
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>>341974072
He draws super good on his cintiq
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>>341974696
I wouldnt know about retard strength, im not a genji main.

Tell me more about yours though.
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>>341974426
You sound like a salty shitter who got stomped by Genji so you blame the character design instead of admitting that you're a shitter.
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>>341974426
>>Negates/Reflects literally cold air from Mei's gun
>>Negates/Reflects Symmetras beam

Both wrong. As is the Zarya one beam. Maybe you should try picking up a copy of Overwatch before you criticize it? You could try playing the game instead of arguing on the internet about a game you haven't played.
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>>341974629
>balance is a non-critical issue
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>>341974774
Holy shit that was a terrible comeback.

I was just making fun of you before, but are you sure you aren't retarded? That was autistically unfunny.
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>>341958970
>>341959224
>>341959601

People actually find that impressive.

No wonder the FPS genre is overun by braindead retards.
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TF2drones, this is getting kind of pathetic.
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>>341974852
Ok, I'm sorry. I assumed I was talking to someone with a basic understanding of English.

ME SORRY, JIGABOO. YOU NO UNDERSTAND WORDS SO ME NO LONGER TRY SPEAKING WITH WORDS.

Join me Daquashan. We'll talk in clicks and bumps like your people do in the wild.
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>>341974892
>overun
I hope you count yourself among their ranks, because you definitely type like someone without a brain.
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>>341974964
>trying to pull the illiteracy card on what you just said
Stay mad.
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tfw I want to play overwatch again but I have to go to sleep/
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>>341974757
I just don't like how all the girls he draws look the same.
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>>341975067
>He still hasn't looked in a dictionary for what the word critical means

It's ok, Trayvayshon, we all know that reading isn't a big strong suit for you black folks. If you want though, I can help you get a library card so you can look up what the word means, but you have to promise not to steal any books. I know how fond of that your kind is (weird considering your illiteracy, right?)
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>>341975117
>On a family vacation
>To Ireland
>Cool shit all around
>All I want to do is play Overwatch

I'm ruined.
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>>341975117
I don't know who this person is but she looks like she's made of BLUEBERRIES hahaha
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>>341974884
Are you sure you arent retarded, autist?

>>341974789
Genjis are easy beats, he was designed for the most mentally deficient players who would buy the game aka weebs and >>341974884 and those are the people who play him.

But that doesnt change the fact that in not-retarded hands or pretty much anybody who plays non-shit characters then decides to give Genji a try that he's easy.

Easy to a point where going 24-4, getting a solo Team Kill by spamming left click and Q with your ult and getting at least 8 deflection kills takes away any sort of fun that the game is trying to make. Its just poor balance.
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>Working 13 hour shifts Mon-Thursday this week
>Can't play enough Overwatch before then

it hurts
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>>341975236
can you play overwatch through the vita from the PS4?

I should try this.
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>>341975304
>at least 8 deflection kills
Nigga just don't shoot at him. Reload. Head towards the nearest medkit. Find some backup. If you know he's trying to deflect , just don't shoot him dumbass
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>>341975290
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>>341975304
So yeah, you are just a salty shitter who got stomped and then blamed the game for his own lack of skill.
Git gud, you literal scrub.
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>>341975304
>All this butthurt that you quoted me twice

I play McCree faggot. The fact that you get utterly destroyed by shitty Genjis so hard that you actually have to make stuff online to feel better is one of the funniest things I've seen on /v/ in a while.

It's made even funnier by the fact that I can regularly destroy Genjis that make you into such a whiny bitch.

It's okay though dude, some people are just bad at video games. And also autistic, and also retarded.

Wait, shit that's a pretty bad combo. Well, anyway, enjoy being the worst player on your pub matches.
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>>341958050
Mods and private servers killed TF2 for me, but that's less a function of the mods themselves and more a function of the shit community.
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>>341975457
Honestly
>GENJI CAN DEFELCT ANYTHING
Don't shoot him them moron, there's a short timer on it
>BUT TOO OP
then just don't shoot him
>B-B-But!!


Fuck man, shitters really are the worst.
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>>341975501
>>341975556
Yeah whatever you say family, i should be able to tell if i ever see you in a match due to how autistic you're making yourself out to be.

Ill make sure to swap to Genji and show you how easy he makes stomping shitters like you ;^)
>>
whos your best character?
most played?

apparently mines widow and symmetra
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>>341975649
You quoted two different people you mongoloid. I don't care who you play. A shitter is a shitter, and you're very clearly bad at this game.

Like I said, it's not your fault. You're just bad at games. It happens.
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>>341975057
>>341975172

>Having troubles understanding not everyone on /v/ is a native english speaker.
Only point you have is that I write a shit english. But you can't deny Overwatch is an awfully shallow game

>Put most mobility skills behind cooldowns
>Dump ammo management in a class based game
>Fucking ultimates

Overwatch is the LoL of the FPS genre.
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>>341975676
My best character is probably Zarya, maybe Winston or McCree.
Most played is Lucio or Mercy because shitters love their triple Hanzo setups on offense.
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>>341958249
I don't see how this statement can't be applied to TF2 at launch as well. TF2 had similar amounts of content and character depth yet still survives to this day.
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>>341975649
>Ill make sure to swap to Genji and show you how easy he makes stomping shitters like you ;^)
Cool. I'll pick Winston and laugh at your vain attempts to run away.
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>>341975774
Correction
>Puts all skills behind cooldowns

Play the game. Play the fucking game. You've clearly demonstrated multiple times that you haven't played the game.

I don't care if you bitch, but if you bitch about stuff that isn't in the game, then you make everyone else have to listen to your dumb shit.
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>>341975676
Mercy (9 hours), Lucio and Reinhardt (two hours each). I need to be credit to team.

Next is Symmetra, Torbjorn and Winston, each with about an hour. Then Roadhog, 76, McCree and Pharah all about equally.
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>>341975739
Whatever you say family, you're clearly fucking trash if you play Genji, you can try and say you play someone else but we all know it ;^)

You wanna defend your *teleports behind u* character all you want because he makes you feel special, even though you're trash and the only way you can manage to score a takedown is with an easy mode character. I get it, you're just garbage at the game.

Its not anybodys fault, your parents were probably siblings and they made the perfect genji player, the most retarded being on the planet. But you wanna have fun too, but you cant help being trash. You have my sympathy.
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>>341975835
There is literally nothing more fun than playing winston and watching Genji's go from trying to be super badass ninjas to literally shitting themselves from the big fucking monkey in front of them.

Fuck, I love playing as Winston. You just need to channel your inner gorilla.
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>>341973917
this
I could only take watching just a little bit of webm, youtube hero guides before I felt an unyielding urge to play the game.
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>>341975880
Lucio's wallrunning isn't behind a cooldown, hence why I used "most".
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>>341975951
>you're just garbage at the game
you're all garbage. worrying about dumb shit instead of the objectives. switch characters and counter and win./
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>>341975951
I'm not defending Genji nigger. Can you not read also. I'm saying that you saying that Genji is anything besides totally beatable by his counters is fucking retarded.

And guess what faggot? It is. It's probably the stupidest thing I've heard all day.

Go back to the jungle, at least there you'll be among your own brand of sub-humans.
>>
Game's shit solo. Might be fun with friends, but certainly not competetive.
Biggest problem for me is that the skill required is not being good at the game but coordinating 5 retards to cooperate against 6 other retards.
And, well, without any customization it can fuck right off.
Also matchmaking is console cancer.
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>>341976093
Wall-running is a passive skill. Play the game you stupid fucking nigger.
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>>341975172
So you are retarded, got it senpai. I'll explain in detail.

Balance is a critical issue in competitive games. This is because when competition is involved the playing field should be level. When it's not level due to certain metas absolutely dominating the competitive scene, it ruins the game when everyone follows absolute cookie cutters.

The only reason it is not a concern now is because everybody playing Overwatch is about as braindead as Team Fortress 2's influx of newer players. Once the competitive portion of Overwatch actually kicks into gear there will for a fact be nerfs for certain metas considered "unbeatable" or "unintended."

That is why it is a critical issue. It would not be as bad if it were not a competitive game, then it would only be limited to dumb bullshit like Dante's gun doing as much damage as his sword in DMC2 (which was also shit but I digress).
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>>341976218
>but coordinating 5 retards to cooperate against 6 other retards

yeah this is true. hopefully ranked will fix this.
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>>341976218
>Team-based play is bad
COD shitter detected
>No customization
TF2 shitter detected
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>>341976246
stay mad, blogposter
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>>341976360
>not even bothering to read
Next level irony.
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>>341976246
There are no metas in this game currently that are unbeatable. And if you think that this is the kind of balance issue that the game has then I refer you back to my first complaint. Play the fucking game you nigger.

There has been a competitive scene already developing since the beta. The game is clearly balanced enough to work competitively. I don't know why you think that you have anything worthwhile to say about a game that you clearly haven't played, but understand that you do not.
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>>341976474
>clearly balanced
Not according to a good lot of the players that talk about it, and even the ones I play with.

But keep spouting this "you don't even play the game!1!!!!1!" rhetoric, child.
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>>341971553
Don't embarass yourself with your casual approach on a gaming board.
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>>341976594
Ok moron, what needs balance? You've talked circles around the idea that there are balance problems but you've yet to mention a single balance problem.

And I don't doubt that you would hang around the kind of idiots that think Mei is overpowered and Bastion is just unbeatable.
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>>341976594
>>341976594
>to a good lot of the players that talk about it, and even the ones I play with.
do you complain about genji or bastion?
lol
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>>341976301
>COD shitter detected

No, quake. I play multiplayer games to test my skills and to better myself. Not to get better at being a retard-wrangler.

>TF2 shitter detected
Nope, only used that to make money. Custom maps are godsend though. That's the bare fucking minimum together with dedicated, community-run servers.
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>>341976763
>I play multiplayer games to test my skills and to better myself

*tips fedora*
I bet you thought that actually sounded like a good insult.
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>>341976664
You also keep dancing around it, stating that it's clearly balanced. I don't see you stating how it is clearly balanced.

But then again you've shown how willing you are to listen when all you do is repeat yourself reply-by-reply like an autistic manchild. Not even worth spoonfeeding google search results.
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>>341970386
I don't follow this logic at all. This is a class-based team FPS. That idea predates any MOBA ever created. Comparing any class-based FPS to any MOBA is the definition of apples and oranges.

Mentioning it has MOBA-inspired elements isn't wrong, but it's just as valid as comparing DotA and WoW because they both have a leveling system and talent tree.
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>>341976235
>"Most mobility skills are behind a cooldown"
>"NO, all skills are behind a cooldown, you didn't play the game"
>"Well lucio can wallrun, it's a mobility skill, but it's not on a cooldown"
>"ITS A PASSIVE"

Fuck, you guys are delusional.
I'll repeat myself, resticting player movement with cooldowns is fucking shit in a class based FPS where you want to outmaneuver your opponent.

It's a shitty desing choice, only made to appeal to LoL and WoW players.
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>>341976828
>The burden of proof is on you to refute my claim that the game is unbalanced, not on me to prove that it is unbalanced.

I see where we're going here. So is this the part where you pretend you were just trolling?
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>>341976812
>*tips fedora*
That doesn't even make sense, man. What the fuck are you doing? Just spouting shit is really cringy.

>I bet you thought that actually sounded like a good insult.

See above, what insult?
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>>341976904
Seeing how you felt like using "muh dictionary" as an argument, I see it fitting.
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>>341976881
It is a passive skill. Play the fucking game.

So you think Pharah should have unlimited flight capabilities? Genji should have unlimited quickstrikes? Lucio should permanently have RAISING THE VOLUME on. Mercy should always be able to fly to anyone anywhere on the field.

The game you're describing is not only terrible. It's probably unplayable. This is why you're a failure. You come up with ideas THIS bad.

You took a game that, by all measures has been a success, and you found a way to make it horrible. Good job.
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>>341976881
>restricting player movement with cooldowns
I never felt restricted by mobility through cool downs.

lucio has wall run , genji has double jump, soldier can run infinelty, ,

the only cooldown I think is tracer. but its a fast cooldown and it nerfs her so she can actually be hit.

who else has restricted mobility through cooldowns?
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>>341977026
Sure, well if you want to find a legal dictionary, you should look up what the burden of proof is.

Then again, considering your reading comprehension in this thread has been subpar, I'm not sure you'll understand it.
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>>341977123
Yes, just as you don't comprehend what the dictionary definition of "critical" is.
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>>341976918
>just spouting shit is really cringey
No, saying that you play Quake to "better yourself" is cringey.

Say that to a woman. I fucking dare you, see how much they lauch at how small your penis is.
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>>341977169
No, it is unlike that jungle-monkey. Unlike you, my brain was developed. I learned to read at a normal age. I wasn't raised by savage jigaboos like you.
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