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>normal is too easy
>hard is too hard
name the game /v/
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most cuh-razy games for me.
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>>341923381
The original Doom.

Ultra-violence feels too damn easy, but Nightmare is not even fun, with its respawning enemy bullshit.
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Tales of Symphonia.
I've been trying all day, but I just can't break into Hard. Every boss is bending me over.

Free run has spoiled me.
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>>341923381
Dragon's dogma

Normal mode
>Finish 10+ saurians, 8 harpies, and a chimera without a sweat
hard mode
>die by 2 bats while walking through a cave
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>>341923615
UV + fast monsters is good
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FE:A, if you count Hard as normal and Lunatic as hard
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>>341923381
Dawn of War
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>>341923608
I created this thread just after playing a bit of killer is dead. as a person very unskilled in character action, even a supposedly "easy" game like this is a nightmare for me
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>>341923381
Jade Empire
Dino Crisis 2
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>Easy
>Normal
>Hard
>Insane
>Batshit Insane
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>>341923953
Was about to post this, but only the first 30 hours are just stupid, as wolves will still fucking oneshot you.
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Age of Empires 2.
I could probably do it if I looked up how, but I just wanna build a comfy town and defend it against AI.
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>>341923381
Civ V for me

Anything Prince and below the game is a joke and by the time I'm atomic era it's a guarantee win.

Anything King and above the AI has unfair advantages and I'm railroaded into a specific strategy or else there's no way to win.
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Iron Grip Warlord in single player
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halo 2 on legendary was a pain to beat back then
especially the first two missions
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New Doom game, going from UV to Nightmare.
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>>341924470
holy fuck this, what a piece of shit
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Kingdom Hearts 1
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>>341924591
Kek wut. I thought you would post even someone bad a those games can handle that one.

Game gets a ton easier as you progress too actually. Most games get harder but KiD becomes retard easy when you have upgrades. Very Hard becomes easier than Normal the first time you went through.
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lol there are no games that are too hard on their hardest difficulty, at worst you might get a bunch of shitty bullet sponges that bore you out but no game, past or present, has ever been truly challenging
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Left 4 Dead 2.

Advanced is piss easy but Hard rain and some others on expert were brutal. (especially because of faggots who give up after one restart)
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>>341925176
I think people that say this don't know the perspective of someone who hasn't played a lot of character action, I can play games like dark souls with my eyes closed at this point, but the sheer damage enemies do and how fast they attack fucks me up even in an easy game like killer is dead. they also seem to have way too much HP at high difficulty
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>>341924887

RTS games have always had bad difficulty, harder settings just give chewt codes to the ai seen as they cant actually make it smarter.
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>the easiest difficulty setting is labeled "Normal"
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Crash Bash senpaitachi.
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Wii Sport
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>>341923381
Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth
Normal is a cakewalk, hard is literally grind several hours before any boss battle.
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Payday 2 Deathwish before the new updates.
Payday the Heist from Easy to Normal is a big step but Normal to Overkill is just fucked.
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>>341925596
I guess you just need a little more time with the genre then. Souls game make KiD look like halo on easy.
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>>341927126

Kid makes halo look to be arma 3: complete edition on launch
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>>341925797
>Crash Bash and Sonic Shuffle on the hardest difficulty made you curse at your TV as if it was an actual human being

Fucking hell I hate A.I. that just blatantly fucking cheats like little pieces of shit.
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>>341927710
>>341927126
I think I might be playing the game wrong, I keep trying to dodge everything and I end up just getting comboed to death. I'm only on mission 7 but it should be easier by this point if it's supposed to get easier as you upgrade
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>>341927026
Deathwish has always been fine in my book aside from the fact that black bulldozers and the basic unarmored cops become snipers

Those two reasons are the only thing keeping me from being a DW regular
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>>341923381
Doom 64
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>>341924876
This is my problem too. I worry about aesthetic building placement too much
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>>341923885

Hardmode is fucking bullshit. It just gives enemies more HP and your party members get killed off quickly in the beginning hours of the game. The developers put no thought into it.
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>>341923381
for me it's dino crisis 2. i can't get passed the first 10 mins of the game on hard, but on normal it's 2 ez
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>>341923615
What about the new one? Is easy too easy? I want to buy and need to know.
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>Hard
>Nightmare
>Unending Nightmare
>Impossible


>Impossible literally is impossible without the game's in-game cheats
>They don't tell you that
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Any RTS. On any difficulty above normal you pretty much always have to prepare for the rush to survive.
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>>341923381
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn.
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>>341924567

This makes me mad because I love the Dawn of War games. Instead of changing the AI to act differently with difficulty level they just cheat and give them more resources so they steamroll you without ever giving you a chance.
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>>341925008
>Ursula's 1st boss fight on critical
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>Super Easy
>Super Hard
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>>341929460
>AH HA HA HA HA HA HA
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>>341929401
Yeah, I'm not 100% sure, but I think even normal difficulty did this. But, yeah, on hard their resource advantage is ridiculous.

Actually, I kind of wish that DoW had a fixed order of battle you'd pick before matches to form a reserve pool - kind of like tabletop W40K.
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>>341929059
depends on your play style really.

Id say easy is generally very easy.

Normal mode you will die a fair amount of times, 15-20 would be a good campaign number given you are well rehearsed in FPS's and go through all of the games content.

Nightmare is probably a solid 50-70+ deaths per campaign.

Ultra nightmare means you cant die once. same difficulty as nightmare

Its a great game. Would recommend. You feel very good about difficult fights after playing through them and you don't die enough to get discouraged.
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>>341929567
>THIS WONT BE PRETTY
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>>341930402
make it stop
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>>341923381
Super Monkey Ball
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>>341924876
It just annoys me how much the ai has to cheat on higher difficulties in strategy game. I just want to play against skynet already.

Is that too much to ask?
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Total war's pretty wonky with campaign difficulty

On normal you rarely get worthwhile fights but on hard the ai rushes you down with multiple stacks
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>>341930648
Problem is making an actually competent AI would be even harder than if they cheat, you kind of have to intentionally make them retarded on some level for humans to be able to compete. Otherwise they'll just be outplaying you at every turn.

For an non-RTS example, the Joy enemies in Bayonetta 1 originally had Bayo's full moveset at their disposal, and they were apparently fucking impossible to fight.
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Kirbys Dreamland
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>>341923381
When I was younger, it was Age of Mythology on easy mode

> easiest
laugh out loud this game is EZ
> easy
put a small gap in my wall, and the enemy always strikes that spot
> normal
nope.
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>>341931351
well I fucked those spoiler tags up
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Literally like every RTS, either skirmish or campaign. In skirmish and outside of specific scripted encounters in most campaigns, normal or hard difficulty tends to just throw shitty waves of 10-20 units at you that aren't nearly enough to accomplish anything. Harder difficulties and the computer's cheating and throws a nearly max supply blob at you every 5 minutes or some shit
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Alien Soldier got difficulty settings right
>Super Easy
>Super Hard
>that's it. Those are your two options
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>>341930776
I've always wondered if you could just construct an AI by making the best AI possible and then giving lower difficulty AIs probabilities of making less optimal moves given each decision. Is that already how it's done?
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> Resident Evil 1
Easy

> Resident Evil 2
All difficulties were easy

> Resident Evil 3
All difficulties were easy

> Resident Evil CVX
Easy-ish

> Resident Evil 4
All difficulties were easy

> Resident Evil 5
Veteren (normal) was easy.
Professional (hard) is fucking ridiculously hard, unbalanced shit. That fucking El Gigantie boss a prime example.

FUCK Cuckcom and their shit.
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>game makes fun of you for picking easy mode
its 20fucking16 this shit is unacceptable
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>>341923615
Pretty true
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>>341930776
You know what would be nice? Having a "Beta" difficulty as an extra. Being able to fight impossible A.I. for the fun of it, or seeing what earlier builds of the game were would be interesting.
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>>341932097
>>>/out/
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>easy is too easy
>normal is too normal
>hard is too hard
>come get some is too come get some
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>>341932097
Yeah, making fun of you for picking easy mode is our job

git gud casul
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>>341932097
>reaction time is too slow to handle easy mode
I can't handle touhous on normal.
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>>341929059

I played on Ultra-violence my first time and it was pretty straight forward, a part from a few battles later on in the game. Boss fights are easy as shit, but they weren't that hard in the original Doom either I suppose.
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>>341923381
SMT Nocturne. Normal is a joke. Hard you often die on the tutorial battle before you can physically choose what command to do.
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>>341929517
Soul Calibur 3:
>Baby Easy
>Easiest
>Very Easy
>EZ PZ
>Japanesey
>Easy
>Normal
>The one above normal
>Hard
>Very Hard
>Siegfried Only No Items Osthreinsburg Only
>Hardest
>Ultra Hard
>Ashura zenkuu
>YOOOOOOOO
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>>341923953
If you stick with a ranged class, hard mode is the way to go, and everything drops 10k gold. It gets much easier a few levels in, only way to play the game.
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Dying light.
Normal is ok, endgame is pisseasy
Switch to hard and you just get your ass raped with killing one zombie uses an hour.
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>>341928732

>Mania mode with no carryover upgrades
>that fucking fight against the Desians in the desert town

sheeeeeeeit

>THE FIGHT AGAINST SYLPH

AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THR-AIR THRUST
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>>341932838
>the tutorial
Jesus fucking christ don't remind me. That took a good half hour or so of RNG bullshit to not get fucked over in the first couple fights.
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>>341927026
this. Basically all non-stealth missions become impossible without a premade because 400 blackdozers.
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>>341927957
Honestly it's been too long for me to remember but I clearly recall it be laughably easy on Very Hard mode. It was much more challenging on normal at first. There might be an item you get for beating on normal that destroys or something. I played it on release and haven't touched it since.
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>>341926505
Came in here to post this.
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>>341929975
the point system has its own flaws. Like, horrible horrible flaws. Also timewise anything over 500 is 17 games of monopoly and risk simultaneously.
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i play all my games on easy and say that i play for the story unironically

judge me
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>>341931495
/v/ is surprisingly forgiving about that one particular thing. idk.

But we've all done it.
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>>341933273
filthy fucking dirty casual
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>easy is normal
>normal is hard
>hard is a waste of time

name that game /v/
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Ratchet and Crank PS4

The game is a good playable challenge on hard...but there are bits where it becomes impossible. When you have to outrun the sewer water for example, and the final boss.
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>>341923953
this
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>>341933536
>>341929352
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>>341923381
Battlefront.

Fucking.

Battlefront.

You make the game easy, and you might as well just put the controller down, because you'll win no matter what.

You set it to hard and no matter how fucking hard you carry and capture points, you're going to fucking lose.
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>>341933536
Elder scrolls games, except only the "hard is a waste of time" part.
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>>341933610
The name of that game still scares me.
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>>341933536
Doom 1 and 2
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civ v
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I'd say Dragon's Dogma but you start wrecking shit about halfway through or so pretty easily.
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>>341931772
Holy shit.
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>>341932989
What? The only hard part of hard I remember is trying to kill those super zombies at night for EXP.
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>>341933793
no
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>>341933823
Yup. Normal starts off easy and gets a little harder towards the end. Hard starts off hard and gets piss easy towards the end.
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>>341929460
>Finding a kid's game hard
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>>341933972
he's probably talking about the super hard added difficulty, because yeah hard mode in the release version was a joke.

Actually, so is the added difficulty unless you're new to the game and don't immediately know "Throw Weapon" oneshots everything and "Drop kick->head smash" for crowds.
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>>341933707
RD normal is only difficult in part 1 and maybe part 2 if you didn't give Neph transfer bonuses

it's ezpz otherwise
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Warcraft 3 for me while i was a kid.

The three keys of silvermoon would kick my shit in.

Now i am in the process of gitting gud and currently on the final mission of maievs campaign on hard.

2 more campaigns to go.
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>>341923381
Battlefront 2
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>>341933536
FE10 US version
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>>341923953
Came to post this. Shit's brutal.
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>>341923381
sfv survival mode
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>>341933536
US version of DMC3
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>the last of us on hard: theres no ammo, stealth is extremely hard and most of the time when you get discovered it doesnt make sense

>the last of us on normal: theres literally no reason to stealth ever because every enemy you shoot gives you twice the ammo you used to kill it
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Halo Wars skirmish
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Nexus: the jupiter incident.

Hard mode is literally impossible. Before you even get the option to customize your ships you get this fucking impossible pirate mission where of you dont go in kamikazing your ships you will always lose.

Normal on the other hand is a cakewalk, youll never lose a ship the whole game and never even really have a challenge.
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>>341934249
I was more referring to the waste of time part, I recall features being disabled on the hardest difficulty such as showing the attack range. You would have to do that part manually which took more pointless amounts of time.
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>>341923381
FTL
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>>341929460
That new Thicc pic
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>>341923381
>110+ casuals in this thread
disgusting
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Anubis and the Buried Bone

it got really hard at the end
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Are there any games where if you play on hard mode that things actually change other than the enemies have more health and do more damage?
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>>341934676
From the top of my head, doom.
I think the creeps have more or less same health, do more damage, but there is shitloads more of them.
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>>341932838
Normal is fine and has spike traps ready for noobs. It's only easy once you get daisoujou the op demon
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>>341934558
This
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>>341934674
Cheeky.
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>>341933536
Most games that don't add content and rewards for the challenge. Thief is cool by changing levels a little and having new objectives
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>achievement unlocked
>beat the game on Impossible
>easy, medium, hard, and very hard achievements still locked

Who thought this was a good idea, especially for games with no replay value
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>>341934676
Dark Souls 2 NG+s add more enemy types up to I think 5? maybe 4.
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>>341934776
Anyone who can play RPGs can play normal.
It is humanly impossible to beat the early stuff on hard without luck.
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>>341935053
One of the things halo always got right senpai
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>>341934676
valkyrie profile
entire dungeons/areas are only accessable in hard mode
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>>341933710
Battlefront as in Star Wars Battlefront 1/2? I've only really played 2 since that's the only one on pc. But I fucking rekt the bots shit up. I have a k/d of 10.13 and tend to win up to 99.99% of the battles. Although it may be that I am pretty good. I rekt my brothers 3vs1 couple of times before
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>>341934676
only ones i can think of are dmc3/4 and megaman10. enemies get new attack patterns and entirely new moves on the hard setting. i love that
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Wind waker HD
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>>341924470
Came for this,
fuck IS
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>>341933710
no way m8, I always win on hard
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>>341934676
Ys Oath and origins
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>>341923381
Silent Hill 3
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>>341924470
Holy hell, this.
I didn't want to be the one to post it, because I didn't want to get cyberbullied
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>Normal is a walking simulator
>Hard is too easy
>Very hard feels like what Normal should be

New Order was as much of a game as Gone Home to be honest.
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>>341934676
God Hand, enemies get faster and more aggressive.
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Dust: An Elysian Tail
Fuck, i hate that game so much, and it's stupid difficulty levels are just one of the reasons.
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>>341935273
dmc 1 as well.
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>>341934676
Metro. You get less everything including ammo, HUD, filters and health. Enemies take less shots to die though.
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>Normal is Normal
>Hard is actually easier than normal all things considered, but more fun and challenging in combat
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Dark Souls
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>>341935626
>Shakespeare puzzle
>Morgue puzzle
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>>341935989
I'm pretty sure "less resources when there is resource management" falls under the same umbrella as stronger/more hp for enemies.

I mean, the hardest difficulty in metro is just "lol you don't have a hud now."
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Blood
>lightly broiled
>2ez
>Well done and above on pitchfork only starts
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>>341923381
>Easy literally plays the game for you
>Normal is too easy
>Hard is normal
>Very Hard is kinda challenging
>Game Title actually makes things easier due to rewarding skill attacks
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>>341933223
Well, RTS moves faster than tabletop, of course. But something like Wargame Red Dragon meets tabletop Warhammer army selection would be great for Dawn of War, I think.
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>Armored Core: Nexus
>easy as shit, I run circles around people and they blow up

>Armored Core: Last Raven
>enemies now have aimbots and you're guaranteed to fuck yourself the first time you play because you lose so hard

>both of these are on normal difficulty
>it's still fun as fuck
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Fire emblem: Fates
>normal doesnt even take any skill, just sit there and watch as you easily take down enemies
>hard is easier,
>lunatic is batshit hard
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>>341923381
Dead space

It's been years since I played it though, maybe I'll give it another go
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touhou 11 and 15 and both etrian odyssey untolds
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Difficulties

>Easy
>Normal
>Hard
>Very hard
>Gimmicky that is actually easier than very hard.

Whats her name?
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>>341936337
Wasn't it actually near impossible to actually beat the game on the hardest difficulty of one of the Dead Spaces?
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>>341936474
MGR, perfect parry will fuck up anything in Revengeance.
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>>341923381
Fire Emblem 12.
Normal was stupidly easy where you'd have to try really hard to possibly fuck anything up, while hard was insane bullshit where you'd need to savescum every battle just to make it through a stage. The gap between the difficulties was absurd.
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Bayonetta 2. The game is so easy compared to the first one up until final climax. Then on final climax, enemies must have AI to cause them to automatically dodge wicked weaves as even in which time they wouldn't get hit by them. The only way I was able to beat lumen sage fights were with the chainsaw, which can do damage without finishers
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>>341934676
Undertale
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>>341936474
Mitsurugi Kamui Hikae
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>>341936981
I really hope hard mode comes out around the anniversary or something.
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>>341923381


Literally no game is "too hard"
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>>341937265
b8
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Halo 2
Up to Sniper Alley, Halo 2 Legendary difficulty is slightly shit. It requires you to abuse the plasma pistol, then when the snipers come in, it becomes a fucking nightmare.
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>>341936337
yeah, I played on hard hoping it was "monsters are hard to kill," but it was actually "nothing ever dies." I got to the giant boss after you get the sawgun and stopped playing.
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>>341937265
How about Dead Space you fag
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>>341936337
>playing Dead Space 2 on the hardest difficulty
>you only get 3 saves
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>>341937265
I'll bite.

How about Ys; Origins on hardest difficulty? That shit is whack yo.
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>>341933610
Hahaha you're bad at video games. I mastered out running the water when I was 12 years old on the original
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>>341937346

Name 5 games that are "too hard"
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Hatsune Miku 3ds
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Guitar Hero.
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>>341936524
In my experience with Dead Space, 2 only fucked me over because it allowed a stark few saves the whole playthrough.

Dead Space 1 was cake in all difficulties because lolplasmacutter
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>>341937735
battletoads
Robocop for Commodore 64
Great Gurianos
Tony Hawk 5
Jekyl and hyde NES
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>>341923381
mario maker
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>>341928732
I love ToS so much, but damn is Hard mode literally garbage. There is no satisfaction in knowing that you can lose the first random encounter you get into.
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>>341938007

literally all have been beaten and dissected to be easy.

Too hard means TOO hard to trivialize with skill or knowledge.
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>>341923381
Any rts, I always steamroll or get assblasted
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>>341923885
What boss has got you beatdown, anon?
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>>341923381
>hard mode doesn't make enemies smarter, or more numerous, or force you to use new mechanics/tactics
>it just makes enemies massive bullet sponges that 1HKO you
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>>341938113
2 of those games were released with bugs that make them impossible to beat.
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>Game is easy as shit normally
>Do the conditions for the secret ending.
>The final level gets a HUGE difficulty spike
>And the extra secret ending level gets another huge difficulty spike.
>Final boss is so hard that nearly no one beaten him legit. All youtube videos show how to cheese him (still hard)

Which game an i talking about?
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>>341923381
Any racing game
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>>341938886
ff12?
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>>341938886

Dodonpachi? Mushihimesama?
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>>341923381
Nier. Normal is easy as shit. On Hard, any enemy can wipe you out in one or two hits.
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>>341938113
Fullmetal Alchemist and the Broken Angel.
The optional final bosses.
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>>341923381
Deathsmiles.
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>easy is normal
>normal is hard
>hard is very hard

Fuck you, Sega.
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>>341938886
Star Ocean: The Second Story
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>>341936330
>Grisly Wound
>Poison Strike
>Inevitable End
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>>341939050
>>341939082
>>341939550

All valid. I think.

But the game i am thinking about is simpler. It is a plataformer.
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>Gitaroo Man
>Get through normal mode with no real issues
>Start Masters Play
>Miss two notes
>Game

Was it rape?
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>>341939686
Cave Story?
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>>341923381
Viewtiful Joe for sure. Kids gives way too many hearts and can breeze through most fights. And calling a mode "Kids" immediately demasculates you. Adults starts you with bear minimum health and everything hurts you like shit. I just got fustrated having to go back to Kids mode because Adults mode grabs you by the balls.
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>>341934453
>The Last of Us
>Gameplay
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>>341938113

IIDX
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>>341939757

yup.
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>>341929059
Ultra Violence is almost perfect IF you don't go crazy with runes and upgrades. If you upgrade everything and equip the best runes it's far too easy. Nightmare on the other hand is complete bullshit at the beginning but once you get upgrades and good runes it becomes much more enjoyable.
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>>341934676
STALKER
The AI is smarter on Master difficulty.
Infact with STALKER the game is practically unplayable on anything but master.
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Xcom for me
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