How to fix overwatch characters:
>Widowmaker
Headshots deal 300 damage while bodyshots only deal 50 and reaload time is increased from 1 second to 5
>Bastion
Bastion's machine gun can only hold 100 rounds
>Zenyatta
Discord orb increases damage by 25% instead of 50%
>Mercy
Can only revive 3 players maximum as well as reduced pistol damage from 50 to 25
>Genji
Can only be about 25 feet away from the objective without immediately dying
>>341906410
>nerfing zenyatta
LMAO
>>341906410
mercy's pistol is 20 damage IIRC
>>341906410
>plz nerf characters I can't counter
Sweet mother of mercy get good
>>341906410
>while bodyshots only deal 50 and reaload time is increased from 1 second to 5
L
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>>341907068
lol no. This game is unbalanced as fuck. Git gudder scrublord
>feel like I'm kicking ass
>Don't even get a medal for eliminations
Feels bad man.
>>341906410
>complaining about Mercy damage . toppest fucking kek
>>341907219
Did your team win ?
Get good.
The game is for the most part entirely balanced as is. With only minor buffs and nerfs needed.
Zenyatta needs 50 armor on his health (logic being he is an omnic)
D.va needs to have a smaller critical hitbox & slightly better mobility whilst shooting
When reaper consumes the souls of enemies they will be revived with 50% health
That's basically all I want changed.
>>341907368
Yeah we won. Steam rolled attacks on Russian industries map, didn't even get the first point.
>>341907173
>Proposes crippling nerfs due to inability to adapt
>Tells others to get good
Have you considered that video games may just not be for you?
>>341906410
The game is balanced, fuck off.
>>341906410
How to fix overwatch characters:
>thickening mods
>sluttier skins
>nude skins
>>341907481
>When reaper consumes the souls of enemies they will be revived with 50% health
What?
How is that fucking minor?
>>341906410
>Roadhog
A hook hitbox that's not the size of a truck
Slightly longer startup time on throw or reduced hook speed
No more hooking through fucking walls
>zen nerf
ur litrally retard
>>341907563
Lol I can adapt and I have. Blizzard fails to make a balanced game so I balanced it for them. Fuck off Blizzcuck
>>341907368
The priest gains control of his own mind, unless something hijacked his brain in the interim since the casting, in which case he will control that creature‘s (in his own body) mind.
Not hard.
>>341907680
It's just to give a counter mercy revive. Probably shouldn't be that drastic. Maybe 75%.
But you get the idea
>>341907790
Frogposter go home
>>341907680
also it would be retarded, cuz you heal full in the fountain
>>341907858
So what, you're too shit to be able to kill people that you feel that, if you kill them once, you should get a handicap so it's easier for you to kill them again and again?
This is hardest bait I've seen in my life. Please, nobody fall for it.
>>341907219
>Thinking I'm doing average edge
>Realize I have 3 gold medals and I was pretty much a target for the enemy team
I almost had PoTG too but this hanzo shoot and q in a closed are where 3 of my team where passing, guess what happened. I really felt like I was simply killing easy targets and pushing the car, took 5 min to finish the match.
>>341906410
Wew lad
>>341906410
>How to fix overwatch characters:
Have every character do randomly 1-1000 damage with every shot, and randomize all life totals to 1-1000 every ten seconds. All skills should have random properties and be shuffled every second.
>>341906410
desu I think the game is balanced pretty well right now so I'm just doing this for shits and giggles
>Widowmaker
Shots in sniper mode take up 5 rounds of ammo instead of 3
>Bastion
You can no longer reload turret form ammo by exiting and reentering turret form
>Zenyatta
More mobility
>Mercy
The time it takes to revive increases subtly for each hero you're reviving
>Genji
Faster Dragonblade swing speed/recovery
There you go OP, fixed
>nerfing zenyatta
just sneeze at him and he dies
>>341909208
This would be a fun Brawl mode
>>341906410
why do the shittest players never respond to text chat
BUFF LUCIO'S GUN
The jump pack should be nerfed desu
>>341906410
nothing wrong with Widowmaker, she's fixed.
Remove Lucio's little jump when he does his drop the beat Ult.
>Mfw when I drop the beat, but get sniped before he hits the ground due to his little jump.
Is there anything to combat desperation plays right at the end of games?
Like you've put up a great defense all game long and have basically stopped the payload dead multiple times, good team work etc etc.
The enemy teams shits it seeing they have 30 seconds left and just shits out a parade of Ults one after another. Pushing it past a checkpoint or taking the last objective.
Like they have had a shit awful compostition for the entire game and within the last minute they shit out a Mercy, a Lucio and two Winstons leaving you no time to react and switch characters like your meant to.
>>341906410
Play shitty game get shitty results
>>341906410
None of those characters need nerfing.
Play better.
Only things that need nerf now that cowboy is nerf is roadhog hook and ult. Hook needs to be remove and and ult damage needs to go down. Oh yeah and weeaboo katana damage needs to be increased by like 1.5x to better reflect the superiority of Japanese steel.
Then maybe I'll buy the game again since I still have it for free after chargeback the purchase lmao.
>>341909395
Fucking this. I can duel almost any other character in the game yet for some reason I am not allowed to actually kill any of them because I do so little damage even with headshots that they can all use their escape mechanics to slowly fuck off back to their team.
The only time I get to actually have a bit of fun fighting people is fucking off from my team to kill Widows a mile away.
>>341910387
You don't lose your ult if you die before the beat drops so what's the problem?
All ults have some startup animation.
>>341910775
>All ults have some startup animation.
HEROES NEVER DIE
>>341907728
You're going to make him useless 90% of the time like that.
Most people already see the hook coming a mile away.
>>341910848
He- UUUHH!
>>341910848
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341910198
her leg is detached though
>>341910639
>hook needs to be remove
I can smell the salt
>>341910895
Yet theres fuck all they can do about it. Think your outside of its range? Too bad, think your behind that wall? Too bad. Think you might be able to get away using that escape skill? Too bad fuck you here left click melee.
>>341910917
Meanwhile, the res is completing.
>>341910917
Still goes off.
>>341906410
The only one of these that weren't retarded was the Bastion change.
>>341911085
It's gonna be people like you crying about Pudge all over again, isn't it?
Hog is a colossal target, he has no mobility, you should not be engaging him at close range.
Literally git gud, preferably get some non-shitter sniper on your team.
>>341907790
>fails to make balanced game
>i balance it for them
Autism/retarded
Daily reminder that instead of nerfing characters, Blizzard should take the Valve route and make everyone else stronger.
This generally makes the game as a whole more dangerous and fun IMHO
>>341906410
Is there an animated version of this?
>>341911420
This is not a moba, theres no way to simply completely avoid a frontline damage centered tank, not with the amount of choke points and capture areas that are in this game. In addition to that the hook has a fucking retarded range in the first place.
Yeah hes a big target but he can also eat Tracer Ults like they were nothing and shrug off Tires like a piece of piss. Hes in every single last Pub game because he has a straight forward gameplay loop of see something move throw hook in general direction hold down M1 then Melee. Rinse Reapeat and heal if you have no Mercy.
I would actually prefer to see him given some other facet to work with, some other mechanic other than brainlessly throwing hooks at everything.
I mean fuck they even do it behind players backs when a simple left click would kill. Nope gotta do my sick hook combo for my sick card at the end of the game.
Give Roadhog something.
Hes TOO balanced to the point of uselessness.
You know how in RPGs jack of all trade characters tend to suck because anything they can do another character can do better? Roadhog is kinda like that.
>>341911047
KEK
>>341910198
Widowmaker should be removed from the game completely
>>341912565
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>>341908084
A team shouldn't be rewarded for dying. If a close range class was in the fray next to ton of enemies they killed without dying, why shouldn't that ult be penalized? Full health on something that spammable is already dumb as fuck in a push-heavy game.
>>341906410
>nerf mercy pistol
this bait is real
>i fell for it
>>341912771
not being rewarded
some ults can seriously cause a group to explode
the counter is having a mercy that is still alive
if she is still alive you failed to do your job
> D.Va
No movement loss when firing weapon (This was a change made when she used to have a higher DPS so it needs reverting now)
> Hanzo
Reduce his health to 150.
> Torb
Increase how long his Ultimate takes to charge
> Reinhardt
If already Charging, take priority over Roadhog's hooks. If the hook catches you from behind, Roadhog gets dragged along with you.
> Symmetra
Shields increase based on a % based system
> Genji
Can't interrupt deflection.
> McCree
Roll doesn't reload weapon automatically.
> Mei
Remove from game
>>341912985
>Failed to do your job
It goes through fucking walls. She can be killed at the start of a fight and make it back from spawning to res everyone at the end of one. Through a fucking wall.
>>341906410
The Bastion idea is actually a good one hidden in the retardation.
>>341913064
>roll doesn't reload
literally what's the point then
>>341913160
only if she has someone to tether herself to otherwise she is as slow as everyone else.
>tfw everyone leaves the spawn and are too far away to fly to
>stupid fucks at least one of you wait 50 meters away so i can latch onto you
>>341913064
>Shields increase based on a % based system
I was thinking about this earlier and I love the idea.
>>341906410
>Here's a list of characters I have trouble with, they should be nerfed!
>Sniper class with massive mobility and utility
>full power shot charges in about a second
>reload time literally nonexistent because when sniping she can fire like 20 bullets before reloading
>the two above points mean that she can take as many shots as she needs as fast as possible to land one lucky headshot
Widowmaker is, objectively, the biggest shitter character in this game. Give her sniper mode 4 rounds before she has to reload and MAYBE I'll be convinced that she doesn't need to just be removed from the game completely.
>>341913297
Roll is meant to be a movement option. It gets you into somebody's face for the Flashbang combo, get to points quicker, or allows you to get out of dodge easier to get out of the line of sight of turrets or Ultimates.
Instead, it's being used so he can keep melting through the bigger guys, even with the damage nerf.
For the record, if it doesn't reload it should also have a shorter cool-down time to compensate.
>Reaper
Can't pick up health kits while wraith walking.
>Genji
Faster run speed. That's about it. He's a ninja but moves way too slowly.
>Hanzo
Either make bodyshots deal less damage or fix those broken fucking hitboxes.
>>341913346
Even without having someone to tether to I have personally killed a Mercy at the start of a big team fight only for her to make it back at the end and res 4 people. Its dis-enheartening, theres nothing you can do to stop it because she can hook onto ghosts and as soon as the H in Heroes is spoken the Ult is going to go off. Mercy is pure fucking aids.
>>341913865
200 Health :^) Would'nt want her to die to a Winston before at least grappling away and making him chase her once. Would'nt want to punish her for getting flanked by a Lucio and having to duel him with her Soldier 76 tier machine gun.
Zenyatta
>having healing orb heals you for whatever your target has healed
>>341914928
>not how it fucking works
100 of his 150 HP is shield, that's why he regenerates.
They need to help roadhog out. He feeds ults too much but other than that he is fine
Reaper would be a must more tolerable character if everyone who played him didn't use his Shift and Ultimate like they were fucking panic buttons.
>Oh shit, I'm about to die. Better wraith walk away and pick up a health kit to bring me back to full health before turning around and 1-shotting the guy following me!
>These guys ganged up on me but my shift is on cooldown! Looks like I'll have to press Q and get POTG again!
>>341912032
>This is not a moba, theres no way to simply completely avoid a frontline damage centered tank
You have a full extra dimension to work with. Zenyatta, Widow, Hanzo, Pharah, Genji, McCree, all of these characters can eat Hog for breakfast.
Yeah he doesn't die automatically from ults, but Junkrat barely has to aim to pump him full of grenades. He doesn't really have much of a way to avoid them and Junkrat doesn't need to even have him in his line of sight.
>I mean fuck they even do it behind players backs when a simple left click would kill. Nope gotta do my sick hook combo for my sick card at the end of the game.
Sounds like you're just upset. Some people don't like to take risks, deal with it. If they want to waste their hook cooldown, it's their loss.
>Mei
Takes slightly longer to freeze someone
No turning slowdown
>>341906410
>nerfing Zenyatta
ARE YOU ACTUALLY INSANE?
>>341913064
>>No movement loss when firing weapon (This was a change made when she used to have a higher DPS so it needs reverting now)
then she's entirely like winston instead of almost like him. she needs to be balanced in some other way
hanzo is already dogshit tier
oh
>mei is op xd!!
ok youre a retard nvm then i wont bother
>>341914239
>Be roadhog
>Go behind cover, cant see shit just to use Take a breather
>As soon as I press it I die
>Watch the kill cam, hanzo shoots an arrow past me and I fucking die, you can't even see my body
>>341906410
>how to fix overwatch characters
>make them more like tf2
>>341915464
Hog can one shot all of those characters, think your out of range? You never ever know when your out of range because there seems to be no set ruleset when it comes to the hook. Like I said when its thrown out on reaction its next to impossible to avoid. You can bait it out but thats horribly risky because while you might think you were completely behind that wall the hook might think otherwise and it always ALWAYS takes priority. Its having to go through the whole song and dance of being pulled to the Roadhog and trying to escape but never being able to escape so why bother trying to do it in the first place.
Its frustration. Its pure frustration. Like if the hook just killed me on contact I would be more happy with that. At least then I can spawn and get on with trying to kill him better this time.
>>341907631
This is the true light.
>tfw you get 3 potgs as Mercy that save the game including a quintuple rez on Lijiang tower
>>341915923
>mei is a pyro now with puff and sting
>buy game
>Constantly matched with level 60+ people at level 2
>Get utterly stomped
Why is this happening?
>>341916273
Last night that is
>>341916409
People have been telling me it's based on skill level but I've not paid it much mind.
For what it's worth, me and my buddies who are all around mid-30s stomped a team of 90s and 100s last night on Watchpoint Gibraltor.
>>341914928
Just increase him. 175. He gets killed by stray fucking fire.
>>341916273
>tfw getting potg for booping 4 people off the side of Lijang Tower.
Feels so much better than just bringing people back from the dead.
>>341906410
Possibly the most retarded list of potential changes I've ever heard.
>>341916218
>think your out of range?
All of those characters can fuck him up out of range. Shit, I main Pharah, unless there's some surface next to me so I can E myself quickly in some direction, I'm a prime Hook and hitscan weapon target.
Even then I don't find Hog difficult to deal with.
His hook does have a range, you need to calm your mind down and pay attention.
>>341916661
That's a good feel too, but that was my first time ever rezzing the entire team at once and it helped us keep the cap and win. This was also the same night I finally bought my valkyrie skin and a highlight intro.
>wears a suit of power armor
>less HP than some dudes in leather or less
Why is this allowed?
>>341916872
Balance reasons, the characters physical appearance has nothing to do with their stats.
>>341915464
Oh and yeah I quite possibly am upset outside of fan the hammer kills nothing quite irritates me as much as bring hooked out of a Blink, or a Rewind or something that no one would ever be able to react to like a flying Lucio through a doorway. Its like everyone that gets really angry about Mei, I can live with Mei because I rarely actually ever come across one. Roadhog is in every single last game and if hes not there from the start, someone will change to him at some point.
>>341916872
Its a flight suit, so its more than likely made from very very light material.
>>341916872
She would be pretty OP with more health.
She already has decent mobility and a pretty strong weapon. She's not supposed to be in the middle of a crossfire, but in the air.
She can't be both beefy AND out of the way.
>>341916994
That's bad character design
>>341913921
No it's not. It doesn't even have invincibility. I thought it was the most useless ability in the game before I found out it reloaded his gun.
>>341906410
>Bastion's machine gun can only hold 100 rounds
that makes him useless
here
>bastion now has double the ammo count he normally does in turret mode
>in order to reload he has to come out of his turret form and perform a slightly longer reload animation
>>341914239
>>Reaper
Can't pick up health kits while wraith walking.
nah, then he'll just sit on top of one in wraith and wait for the animation to end before he picks it up
how about this
>health back from "souls" doubled
>cannot pick up any medikits and cannot be healed by supports (lucios, zenyatta's, and mercy's ults still work)
>>341910427
Save your ult in anticipation for it. If they all switched they wont have ults themselves.
All the characters are pretty balanced now.
I still think Mei is a zero-risk character, but other than her I can't think of anyone that feels stronger than they should be.
>>341916872
Pharah is an underrated qt. Why doesn't she have more fanart?
>>341912310
>balanced
>hook -> one-shot
>ult that does a ton of damage and knocks charging Reinhardts off the map
>>341918253
She has some, but she's not obvious waifubait like D.Va so...
I feel like Roadhog is a little on the strong side, along with tracer. Perhaps a missed hook means a longer cd or a little bit of damage taken off his right click.
Tracer could have a small nerf of about 1 more second cd on her blinks
Zen could use 50 more health, or have his 100 shields converted into armor
Winstons jump could have another 2 seconds or so of a CD
Soldier 76 could use a little more spread with his first bullets, he's too accurate at long range right now
Junkrat tire could have a little more health, like 120
Mercy ult could take a little while longer to charge up
Reinhardt should have a small movement speed penalty while swinging, like 15 or 10%
Dva could have less of a movement speed penalty and her ult should be able to penetrate small objects or have a shorter countdown
>>341918906
Outside of those two things hes more or less useless, the problem is bringing in something else for him to do outside of just brainlessly hooking anything that moves on reaction.
For those of you on the PS4, how long are your queue times. I'm waiting like 3 minutes on average before a match and I'm like level 11. The odd thing is my queue times are close to instant in a group, anyone know whats going on?
Bastion
>add recoil to turret
>make turret-to-robot instantaneous
D.Va
>make her mech gun an actual machine gun instead of a pea shooter
>reduce out-of-mech health by 25
Pharah
>add 50 health
>reduce cooldown on E
>increase forward momentum and reduce player damage when rocket jumping
Widowmaker
>drastically reduce or better yet remove entirely cooldown on grapple
>limit ult to player only
Reinhardt
>instead of rebalancing, add something where the player can judge melee distance since monitors have no depth perception
Mei
>make wall semi-transparent for allies
Torbjorn
>upgrading and repairing sentry requires scrap
>damage to turret is reduced 3/4 before going online
Tracer
>add trajectory reticule to ult
>>341919090
>or have his 100 shields converted into armor
I dunno, I dislike the idea of a healer that can't self-heal in any way.
>>341918906
Roadhog's ult kind of sucks though thanks to the recoil factor. Which makes sense since he's so OP otherwise.
>>341919090
>Winstons jump could have another 2 seconds or so of a CD
People would drop Winston in favor of D.Va, you'd kill his use like that.
>Soldier 76 could use a little more spread with his first bullets, he's too accurate at long range right now
So is McReeee, in comparison 76 is hardly a problem.
>Mercy ult could take a little while longer to charge up
Maybe, but her ult is basically the only worthwhile thing about her.
And she's already losing to Lúcio as a healer.
>>341917621
Roll into flashbang is becoming needed so much more now that people are getting better at keeping their distance. The extra distance you get can really take people by surprise.
>People who put down sprays after their PotG
Is there anything more cringey?
>>341906410
>1 second to 5 seconds
>changing machine gun to 100
>nerfing zenyetta at all
What in the ever living fuck am I reading?
>>341920068
Symmetra
>increase shield from 25 to 40
>add cooldown/queue to shield
>Increase sentry HP from 1 to 30
Winston
>Decrease barrier cooldown
>Make his weapon not suck
>Make it so he doesn't die instantaneously to Bastion when using his ult
Mercy
>Make her target follow track through objects
>Ult is interrupted on death
>>341910848
Yeah and in early betas, you used to have to wait until the end of the animation for the revive to happen instead of instantly
No idea why it was changed
>>341920617
Some of the sprays were basically made for that purpose, honestly.
>>341920617
>Always get D.Va's on my team that emote after using self destruct every time, only to get nobody and die almost immediately
>>341916218
>HIS HOOK HAS NO RANGE
>IM TOO AUTISTIC TO GO INTO TRAINING MODE AND ACTUALLY FIND OUT THE HOOKS RANGE
k thanks for letting us know anon
>>341921434
I think you may have mis-understood my point entirely. I am not saying it has no maximum reach I am saying that it seems to change constantly whenever it suits the hook.
I think I am more that far enough out of his range, I think I am more than pulled back away from a ledge, neither ever seem to be enough. Because the hook is pure bullshit.
Its fucking bizarre to me that people would get enraged by being flashbanged then fanned when theres next to nothing they could do once the flash hit but are perfectly fine with being hooked then one shot and there being nothing they can do. Fuck the McCree needed to be close range for his stupid combo to work the way the maps are set up in Overwatch if you can see a Roadhog theres a good chance your in hook distance.
So you better nip back behind that wall right? Too fucking slow its gone through the wall you were doomed as soon as you stepped out.
>>341921434
>Hog can one shot all of those characters, think your out of range? You never ever know when your out of range because there seems to be no set ruleset when it comes to the hook.
More like because the lack of depth perception on 2D displays makes judging distance impossible in an FPS. Same issue with Reinhardt's main and why melee always sucks fucking ass in first person.
>>341912310
he needs to be fixed, but not balanced. his hook is bugged as fuck and its basically a 50/50 after you manage to hook someone if the player doesnt bug out and get behind you.
>>341921953
Mobile so can't properly argue, but the going through the wall thing is a result of the hook's end being the only physical part of the attack. The chain can go through objects if you whip hog around fast enough, only the hook itself will ever interact with physical objects. Not arguing the "fairness" of this factor, just clarifying
>>341921953
>its gone through the wall
When that happens, it's because the hook already hit you when you were in Hog's line of sight. It just hasn't started pulling you back yet, and you moved behind cover after the fact.
The hook doesn't literally go through walls.
Just go into training mode, anon.
>>341920617
How about taunting during what you KNOW will be play of the game?
It wasn't impressive, it really wasn't, but it made the enemy team mad as fuck, they even won and they were mad.
>>341922590
>>341922719
So can you not understand just how frustrating that is when your playing Tracer and from your end you never got hit by the hook at all because you blinked?
tfw they overnerfed McCree and his right click is useless compared to two shots of left click.
>>341924009
I understand the frustration, but that doesn't justify a nerf. Lag is a thing everyone has to deal with in some way or another.
The same logic used to call for a Hog nerf because of this could be applied to nerfing any hitscan weapon.
>>341924258
Theres not a one hit kill waiting at the other end of other hitscan weapons though.
i'm not saying the hook should not be a one hit kill, that should stay, what I would suggest is give him something else and increase the cooldown on hook. Right now most Roadhogs can be relied upon to kill people every 7 seconds and do nothing of note outside of that. Apart from get shot.
So you have something thats frustrating for people to play against, can't really tank, and outside of his primary skill is pretty useless. Thats not a nerf thats needed its a reworking.
>>341923383
>gets a shitty 2k
>waste time emoting
I'm upset you thought this was worthy of emoting and I'm upset there was no better play in the game. I'm also pretty upset your tire somehow survived despite going just straight at the enemy for 10 seconds.
>>341924846
We were getting completely steamrolled at the time, holding off two or three people just at the end didn't do anything in the end.
You've got to laugh, haven't you?
>>341909041
>faggot name
>plays reaper
figures
>>341924574
>Theres not a one hit kill waiting at the other end of other hitscan weapons though
Widowmaker doesn't ring a bell? Shit, widowmaker can get paired with Mercy and she becomes infinitely more frustrating to play against. Yet frustrating does not mean OP.
>So you have something thats frustrating for people to play against, can't really tank, and outside of his primary skill is pretty useless.
I don't know what kind of shit Hogs you've been seeing, but he's quite good at tanking in pretty much any situation. He's not Reinhardt whose sole job is to tank, but the fear of getting hooked + his health recovery still make him a pretty beefy and intimidating hero to play against. He has a right click that is useful for when your hook is on cooldown, he's far from useless.
He doesn't need any reworking, if anything he's one of the more balanced characters in the game. He's a huge target with zero mobility.
Compare him to someone like Mei who's a zero-risk character. Shit, Mei can fuck him up in fact.
>>341907790
>blizzard fails to make a balanced game
>so i balanced it for them
ahaha eat jizz you 18 year old kid.
>>341907231
>Defending
>Gates opening
>Right before it does I shoot a stream of mercy pistol at it.
>Kill a Tracer instantly
>50 damage
>cutting mercys pistol damage in half
>genji
Hopefully you're whole post is trolling and not just the genji nerf.
you're retarded
>>341906410
The only people I kill when I play Bastion are the same people over & over & over again
The same retards who run through the same doorway & die to my turret at least 3 times.
I rarely even need to reposition with certain players
That should tell you all you need to know
>>341906410
>Widowmaker
>Headshots deal 300 damage while bodyshots only deal 50 and reaload time is increased from 1 second to 5
I FOUND THE SHITTER WHO KEEPS GETTING DROPPED BY WIDOWMAKERS EVERYBODY
LET'S ALL POINT AND LAUGH AT THE RETARD
LMAO AT YOUR FAGGOT LIFE BITCH
>>341906410
Better:
>Mercy: Revives at a set health cap, while squishies will be unaffected, heroes like Roadhog and Reinhardt will only come back with 300 health, invincibility period will be longer to compensate. Alternatively, massively slow down Mercy's ult charge rate to justify her being able to bring back everyone at full health. Buffwise, increase pistol damage to 30-35 or so
>Torbjorn: Cannot aim very far upwards unless enemy is hovering slightly above it/on top of it, given a 50% damage taken reduction up top to avoid it being too easy to kill it. Alternatively, auto aim radius is 360 degrees as usual, but the length of said radius is reduced, to allow people to peek out and fire away without having to be a map's distance away
>Lucio: Radius of heal decreased somewhat, alternatively cooldown on amp increased by 5-6 seconds
>Mei: Cryostasis can no longer contest a point. Alternatively, it heals for 100 health less at full use. OR, it is given a health meter, and Mei is auto-ejected if she takes 150 damage (this is probably a good bit too low)
I feel like my list here is too nerf heavy but I'm dumb and find it harder to think of buffs
>>341925337
>fighting Mei as Roadhog
Absolutely hellish. I've either been playing with the luckiest fuckers on the planet or some CAREER Meis.
Any time I try to throw that hook out, even if they're not looking at me, it clonks off either a wall of ice or the block she's healing herself in. And these things never seemed to be on cooldown, their timing was fucking immaculate.
>>341925337
Thats one of the points I've been trying to make I see shit Hogs in every single solo queue game I play. Almost all of them are indeed terrible but because of everything that makes Hog, Hog its still possible to kill people with the flow chart.
Mei is comparatively rare so what makes her so irritating and zero-risk becomes less apparent because I never have to deal with it every single last game that I play. The only time I am ever free of pubstar Roadhog is when I play with at least 4 of my friends we go up against similar pre-mades.
>>341906410
What determines the Potg now?
The other day I was doing amazing, pretty much single handedly captured the point by myself as tracer, while fighting everyone off for itNot that I'm amazing, they were shit. They would come out the door one after the other, instead of just waiting, and grouping up
But when the round ended, some pharah got potg where she killed two people with her Q and then suicided.
Give Mei a 25% speed boost when running on her ice.
>>341925861
Theres a whole list of things that take priority when it comes to POTG, like if you were on the point, if environmental kills are involved, what others did during the game and if they were on the point or did environmentals.
I got a team wipe with a fucking tire once and the POTG went to a Reaper because he killed 4 on the point itself.
>>341926045
>hyper-speed potatoes
Do you want no one to have any fun, ever?
I don't want to imagine a world where Mei gets to the point faster than anyone else, that's a nightmare.
>>341920068
>Torbjorn
>upgrading and repairing sentry requires scrap
>damage to turret is reduced 3/4 before going online
holy shit
this fucking moron doesn't know how to deal with torbjorn
like
get good shit head
Reduce headshot damage the retarded spread on character like roadhog, tracer and bastion abuse this
That'd improve the game about 90%
>playing overwatch
>enemy team takes the first control point
>they are absolutely raping us
>my team counter picks
>I got bastion
>we are holding them off in the last room
>somehow hold them off for five minutes straight
>clock is ticking down
>we are about to win
>suddenly a DVA charged in
>touches the point before the game is over
>forces us to overtime
>whatever we just kill her
>overtime starts to tick down
>another DVA comes charging in
>we cant kill her before she reaches the control point
>overtime is refreshed
>ANOTHER DVA COMES IN
>the entire enemy team switched to DVA to extend overtime
>they are making the game last forever
>two team mates switch to mei
>able to build a wall after a few minutes of this
>finally win
fuck DVA
>>341926045
Yes. YES. I would gladly take a longer cooldown on Ice Block or wall if I could do Ice Man.
I already do that when I play Mei but at least now I would go a little faster.
>>341926404
And from the butthurt, this guy only plays torbjorn.
>>341925814
I pretty much only play premade with my friends so I see Mei in pretty much every defense team.
You can't just judge a character based on their performance vs. pubshitters.
Even if a shit Hog manages to get a hook kill with some consistency, Hook kills aren't Hog's only job.
Any brainless D.Va player can ult into a CP and get the usual 3 kills, this does not mean D.Va is OP.
Any brainless Junkrat can lob bombs all over the place and get lucky kills, plus blow up the tire among a payload, this also doesn't make Junkrat OP.
Some characters are easier to pick up than others. But whether a character is OP or not must be judged from the skill ceiling, not from the base point.
Symmetra is usually regarded as a shit character and yet experienced players can make her REALLY annoying with clever turret positioning. IIRC a team of a couple of Symmetras and some other specific heroes can pretty much lock down Volskaya's first CP entirely.
>tfw no character in Overwatch who wears pantyhose
Does anyone know the name of the model that has hair like zarya?
>>341917383
A Rocketman style jetpack would be lighter.
>>341920068
Dont make video games anon, ever
>>341926651
>Mercy
>>341926510
This reminds me of one time when I was on a full premade and we all picked D.Va attacking on Hanamura.
Easiest game we've ever won.
>>341926651
Mercy does, kind of. They look like pantyhose though they probably aren't.
>>341926597
nice projection of your insecurities shit head
it's not my fault you're a paste eating retard who doesn't know how to deal with a static aim bot lmao
Take Tracer out of Overwatch and put her in a good game.
The rest can burn.
>>341926852
Widowmaker stop posting and just go kidnap her so you have someone to cuddle with during the night.
>Pharah
Reduce her rocket launcher viewmodel size
up splash damage by 5-10 points so a direct and a near direct splash can actually kill someone.
These are the only changes keeping her from perfection.
>>341912310
>balanced
>one shots any hooked hero below 300 hp
>there will never be a skin that shows D. Va's, Mercy's or Widowmaker's bare feet or soles
>>341927120
She's already strong enough, man. I say this as a Pharah main. If she was literally Soldier I would've agreed but she has much more airtime than Soldier did. There's not much justification for more splash damage when you have more time to aim.
>>341925861
I've had a few PotG where basically all I did was kill a person who was starting their ult (Pharah, Reaper) and then maybe get another token kill or something. Yeah, it was a useful thing to do, but it makes for a boring PotG.
>>341926620
Im not saying its OP and in need of a nerf, I want it to be fucking fixed. I want the hero itself to actually work better than he does right now.
Does that make sense? From a playing Roadhog p.o.v. and playing against him p.o.v.
Like I said before I agree completely about bad Junkrats and D.Va's but I don't see those every single game. I have to deal with Roadhog constantly and as such his failings become far more apparent.
>>341927120
Increase Rocket self damage by 100% because there is next to nothing dissuading her from following anyone she likes into enclosed areas and firing directly at the walls and floor.
>>341924846
>2
Can you count?
>>341906410
>Can only revive 3 players maximum
fuck off
I think Mei should be removed from the game. I think the same for Hanzo, but Mei just seems to survivable. Shit, I'd be happy with her being lowered to 200 health.
On some maps depending on where Torb puts his turret (on defence) there is no way to counter it.
You may get close enough to blow it up, but then one of his team mates will kill you - and he will just rebuild the turret.
I'm talking about solo queue. Not in a 6 person group all on Teamspeak who can co-ordinate a measured strike.
After painstakingly switching characters and planning how to blow his turret up he shouldn't be able to rebuild it straight away.
>Yeah but me and my friends on ts always manage to counter his turret
>Git gud
Read above.
>Play with friends
I do they are not always around though.
>>341927756
>Im not saying its OP and in need of a nerf, I want it to be fucking fixed. I want the hero itself to actually work better than he does right now.
Weren't you the one talking about how you can't understand the hook's range?
> I agree completely about bad Junkrats and D.Va's but I don't see those every single game. I have to deal with Roadhog constantly and as such his failings become far more apparent.
What world do you live in? I can't play a single game without someone picking D.Va, and Junkrat is really common because of how easy he is to play. You can't just get angry about a character because you see him constantly, that's up to the players.
Again, I've already explained my reasoning why Hog is fine the way he is. Hooks aren't the entire point of his character, you don't need to rework a character just because he's not difficult to pick up. His ult for example can be quite deadly but pubshitters can never use it to any worthwhile effect. They push people away and that's it. That doesn't mean it needs a buff, or that it needs to be reworked.
Best husbando, coming through.
>>341928462
>but Mei just seems to survivable. Shit, I'd be happy with her being lowered to 200 health.
>>341927694
exactly what he said.
>>341928720
10/10 would submit to
>>341928462
>being so bad you lose to mei
I hope you learned your lesson.
>>341928506
>pick pharah
>shoot missile
>kaboom
>team moves in
So hard.
>>341927228
pic
>>341927003
that's gay
>>341928720
>not posting mercy with bulge
>posting shit tier tracer
>>341928462
If Mei and Hanzo didn't exist I don't think the game would be hurt by it.
You'd get rid of one of the entirely too many stuns, you'd get rid of wild-fired headshots from across the map, you'd remove an option for complete shitters who don't know what "attack" means (this goes for Widowmaker as well, but she's mildly useful sometimes), and there'd be less FUCKING BORING play of the games where some japanese bastard yells very loudly and shoots dragons across the point or cart.
It's like a free coupon for one play of the game, every time.
>>341928720
>Helden sterben nie
>>341929109
hnnnnnnnnnng
>>341928720
>>341927746
I can't tell you how many times Ive directed a 200hp class then splashed them for 79-75 damage with a near direct, it feels like you're supposed to be able to kill people with a direct and a splash since max splash is 80, but it never seems to hit for that much given how sharply splash falls off, an extra few points would make up for this.
>>341928905
>Turret behind wall (Anubis)
>Fly in
>Destroy turret
>Die
>He rebuilds it
>Fly in
>Get sniped
>JUSTICE RAI- aarrrghh
Like I said. Only will work if you are playing pre-made.
Otherwise Torb wrecks people.
>>341929294
whoops, was meant for
>>341927706
>>341928720
I've never noticed those huge ass arm things until now.
Are they handles so Winston can hold her arms whilst he fucks her from behind?
>>341929109
>shad
>>341929498
Its aerodynamic luv.
>>341919090
Roadhog isn't as good as the crappy players on this general make him out to be. Yeah his combo is great but in higher level play he's just a free walking ult builder for the enemy team. I just fire at him all day and get free ult for it. Its okay to pressure a Roadhog yet not enough people do it. He's in a good spot right now.
>>341929618
But she phases through space anon
>>341924846
>taunt is so effective it makes people on 4chan mad
good job, Junkrat
>>341906410
>nerfs zenyatta
>>341906410
Keep crying faggot.
>>341929434
Only fly in when you have a team pushing beneath you. Usually no matter where the turret is you can get to it eventually. If people are blocking your way just kill a few before hitting up the turret. She's one of the strongest characters in the game right now.
>>341929434
Anubis turret behind the wall is really easy to blow up. You can blow it up as Junkrat through the left side, both by lobbing bombs over the wall or by taking the actual left path.
Any of those brainless Hanzo players can ult on that corner and usually take out all the faggots camping there and then move in and blow the thing up easily.
Pharah can keep her distance on the right side and fuck it up.
You can't just dismiss those things because >get sniped
This comes with any team game. A team with some cohesion, a simple Widowmaker supporting Torb will obviously fare better than an attacking team of complete idiots.
>>341929109
That's nice toobut currently I'm in a "fuckin sissy Tracer" mood, not a get pegged by Mercy mood.
>>341929740
Its time actually but you still gotta go fast.
>>341906410
>Can only revive 3 players maximum as well as reduced pistol damage from 50 to 25
Are you fucking autistic?
>>341929434
Blow the widowmaker off her perch. Its really easy to get at a widow on the last point on Anubis as Pharah.
>>341919284
>Outside of instantly killing someone that isn't a tank instantly, he's useless
I honestly always found him more broken than Mcree ever was
Holy fuck anon
This is
This is retardedafojpasgsgiewngsdojnxionsj n
>>341930012
Why dont you just get pegged by mercy while you fuck tracers ass?
>>341930012
>Not being ingetting roughly fucked in the ass and came inside of repeatedly by Tracer mode
>>341928772
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it. 250 is just a little too high.
>>341928878
>pic related
I once heard the phrase "It's like the Pyro on steroids" and it's justified.
>>341927228
Footfags deserve death
>>341929774
I hadn't even thought of it that way. I love it even more now.
>>341928772
>nerfing shit-tier characters
Why not nerf Zenyatta while you're at it.
>>341930210
this nigga gets it.
>Tracer's hair was originally black, rather than brown. This can be seen in her concept art
>>341930354
>spotted the mei player
>d-dont nerf me
>>341930012
We /headcanon/ now?
>Zarya secretly wishes she could be more dainty and feminine
>Lacks the knowledge or confidence to pull it off
>Also crush on scruffy American cowboy
I know, /autism/
>>341927228
truly the darkest timeline
>>341929294
I don't think you're supposed to.
Pharah can't be a major powerhouse, she has very unique mobility. Having the fall off not being as sharp would be arguably welcome, but I honestly think that's about it. Her air superiority is already really strong by itself, she basically has an entire area of movement that's entirely hers.
She shuts down Dorado on both attack and defense SO HARD it's not even funny.
>>341930161
There's a small amount of time after the hook ends and before his shot where you can do stuff like Reaper shift and lucio rmb and whatnot to prevent dying. Also hooks barely ever pull your target directly in front of you and sometimes they pull to your side or even behind you so it requires a bit of aiming, unlike Mcree where you stun someone and they can't do fucking shit.
>>341927228
hnnng i need this so bad.
while they're at it need additional skins that give them a " bulge"
>>341930493
>If you don't want a character nerfed you must play them
maybe it's because I'm not enough of a shitter to lose to them and don't want to see them nerfed because shitters can't deal with it
>BLIZZARD PLEASE NERF TORBJORN AND BASTION I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH STATIONARY TARGETS WAAAH
>>341930265
>Footfags deserve death
>>341906410
yea I can confirm you play one meme main character and are shit at everything else
zenyatta is fine
bastion is fine, he's beyond easy to kill, just like torbjorn's turrets
i'm guessing you try to play pharah and get pissed when you get btfo trying to be a meme kite flying above everyone spamming rockets into nothing while your team struggles on offense to push with no damage
>>341930567
If the combo is done correctly theres no chance to escape whatsoever.
If you do manage to escape its because the Hog fucked up his M1.
>>341930690
stop acting all elitist.
you must be so cool at parties.
>>341930567
>Mercy is ten feet away from me, straight line from her to me
>better safe than sorry, hook her over
>she ends up two feet to my left
>she wasn't moving at all before the hook
>>341930567
>There's a small amount of time after the hook ends and before his shot where you can do stuff like
If the gods of netcoding are in your favor, yes
>Reaper shift
See above
>lucio rmb
The push doesn't teleport someone back instantly, the shotgun blast will kill you regardless
I don't know if you're aware, but Roadhog has an insane animation cancel combos that simply does not leave you a window for reaction unless he fucks up and/or the netcoding smiles upon you and lags the game in your favor.
>>341927228
I would spend $50 trying to get a swimsuit DVA when she's out of the robot if she had bare feet
>>341930832
Yeah and like I said, his hook is fucking horrible and rarely ever puts the person you hooked right in your face so it at least takes a bit of aiming on the part of the roadhog, and of course for the initial hook.
Mcree is just brainless.
>>341930869
>>341930838
Nice argument.
Stay bad.
>>341931045
>aiming on the part of the roadhog, and of course for the initial hook.
HO HO HO HE HE HE HE
>>341927228
>There's only 1 skin that shows off bare feet
>Its poo in loo
>>341906410
What were blizzard's reasons for infinite ammo?
>>341931078
you provided nothing to argue about.
>>341930690
>>341930690
>>BLIZZARD PLEASE NERF TORBJORN AND BASTION I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH STATIONARY TARGETS WAAAH
no one said anything about that. we were talking about nerfing meis hp by -50
ok let's just do this from left to right
>genji
reduced distance on dash
cooldown reduced to 5 seconds but is no longer refreshed on kill
>phara
splash damage increased to 60
ultimate now does 80% of the damage over 50% of the duration
>solider
damage falloff removed
>bastion
ult builds 25% slower
>hanzo
arrow hitbox size reduced
ultimate travels 50% faster
>torbjorn
can now place 2 turrets at once
lock on range reduced from 40 meters to 30
molten core can only be used on 1 turret, and must target one of your turrets to activate
molten core does not heal the turret or increase its max health, it now instead converts all of its current health to armored health
>widowmaker
poison mine does not alert widowmaker if it is destroyed (as opposed to being triggered)
>d.va
mech guns accuracy greatly increased
ultimate doesn't get blocked by standing behind small objects
ultimate detonates faster but the explosion radius is reduced
>reinhardt
shield recharge delay increased by half a second
>roadhog
fix hook interaction so that you don't get stupid shit like people ending up behind you
>lucio
health reduced to 150
>mercy
ult takes twice as long to charge
can now overheal like tf2 medic
>symmetra
enemy team doen't instantly know when you have a teleporter
>zenyatta
enemies inside your transcendence radius get orb of discord effect
>>341931078
SWIGGITY SWOOTY
>>341931270
Every character should have truly infinite ammo so no reloading
that means fan the hammer keeps firing as long as you hold it
>>341931078
spotted the rager
>>341906410
kill yourself my man
>Play Zenyatta on Numba
>Die from a stray Roadhog bullet
Ayyy
>>341931306
>ultimate travels 50% faster
Are you autistic?
>>341931290
Nerfing Mei's hp because you are too stupid to use the counterplay at your disposal to beat her.
>>341931078
Shitty korean player, maybe if he stopped trying to snipe someone who was a couple feet away then that swiggity wouldn't have mattered.
>>341931558
great post
>>341931561
>counterplay
>main mercy and luc.
yeah lemme get right on that.
>>341931607
The guy is obviously cracking up while attempting to escape incoming Lucio dick.
>>341907481
whats the difference between hp and armor?
>>341930869
she hit a pebble on the ground, sorry
jesus fucking Christ, I'm fucking done being Winston
I'm ALWAYS 100% the only person every trying to push on ATTACK missions, I'm so fucking sick of it always being 1-on-4 and my fucking retarded teammates are too fucking stupid to realize I'm distracting the opposition
>>341931656
>Outrange her
>Play Pharah/Junkrat/Reaper/McMeme
>Don't engage her in a 1v1
Mei only stomps shitters that's why she's rarely picked in competitive and boasts one of the lowest winrates
>>341930545
Whats the difference really in having the falloff not be as sharp and 5 extra points of splash damage which spreads out the falloff more? they both achieve the same thing, making its so pharah can kill with a direct and a near direct splash effectively. Which is something you say she shouldn't do, you're kinda all over really.
>>341931889
I want to start playing Winston but I'm afraid I'll keep feeling the "need" to play him in order to win.
I don't want to lose the fun, you know?
>>341931306
>increasing Pharah's splash
>Frontloading her ult damage
you're an idiot and should kill yourself
Anubis is worst map.
>>341931392
I'd like to see this as a special mode.
>>341932127
phara is currently the weakest offense hero by a pretty wide margin, she needs fucking something
the problem with her isn't so much that she's bad, she's just way too easy to counter
>>341906410
Those are all dumb.
>>341932210
That's not hanamura
>>341906410
Make meis slow effect not happen instantly
>>341931889
>trying to heal a winston
>they always jump straight into the middle of the enemy team
>if I follow, I die, 100% percent of the time because "lol there's a Mercy right on top of the objective"
I gave up trying to help winstons ages ago
>>341932012
I said arguably. I don't really have the data for her splash falloff in my head, I just feel like she's already effective enough. McCree just got nerfed and Pharah's rocket splash as is already deals more damage than his Peacekeeper.
Then you couple this with the fact that she has much more mobility.
>>341910387
>He doesn't use it while wall riding high in the sky
Nothing feels better then dropping down from above where you were healing the team with no one bothering you and saving them all with your music. I fucking love Lucio
>>341906410
Mercy's pistol does 20 damage
>>341932607
Hanamura is the worst map in the game.
First point has two entrances, the big-ass, easily-defended doorway and the tiny, even more easily-defended hole to the LEFT for the big-ass, easily-defended doorway.
And if you are on defense, and somehow they slip through the cracks and take the first point, you go from having every advantage in the world to having none of them, because the second point is a giant room with seventy billion different ways into it.
Also I have NEVER seen a fight in the courtyard in front of that building, it might as well not be there at all.
>>341932210
muh dik
>>341932970
That's not Volskaya
>>341932970
Funny you should say that, I've had more luck on the second point as Toblerone.
>>341932970
Hanamura is the best map in the game for picking out good players from shitters. The attacking team needs to work together to get past the first chokepoint. The defending team needs to work together once the attacking team does.
>>341926835
Are you okay buddy? You sound legitimately disturbed.
>>341932743
I've had GOAT Mercy's on defense when playing Winston. I would jump into the fray and pick out the other team's Widow or Mercy and leap back to her for a heal up When they pushed too far I would leap straight up so she could follow and escape to the rooftops while I fell down to help the team back them off.
Most of the time you shouldn't follow a Winston unless he's leaping away from danger.
>Symmetra
She's okay, but for the most part another character is always better. I have 3 changes for her.
1. Teleporter gives you shields
2. Shields convert 25 hp in shields. Tracer would still have 175 health but 50 of it shields instead of 25.
3. ability to put her turrets further away and faster animation.
>People claim 2 CP maps are fine
Yeah thats why blizzard has announced their re-working already. Fuck people are dumb
>>341933315
I'd have her start with all 6 turrets instead of just 3 at a time. 3 turrets are almost useless.
>>341907790
I'm just glad you're here posting frogs instead of making games.
>play with pubshitters
>team info says "no support"
>some dude reflects for a long time and picks symmetra
I swear, Blizzard needs to fix these class descriptions.
>>341933152
I think it's safe to say that every control point map is dogged by the same problem and that's ZERO flank routes. If you can't get to the point through the front door, you're never getting to the point, not even sneaky Genji or Tracer shenanigans are going to help you.
>>341933601
>>341933152
Volskaya doesn't have that problem though.
The left path is accessible to enough characters to make a real difference.
>>341932794
McCree's peacemaker is hitscan and typically hitscan deals less damage than projectiles since theres no travel time, also his firing even on his left click is faster than Pharahs, not to mention fan the hammer, McCrees DPS is far more than Pharah's who has one of the worst, also McCree can headshot to do even more damage.
One more thing is quick melees which most offense heroes can take advantage of to add to their DPS since they engage in close range is something Pharah a mid-long range fighter typically doesn't use.
Think of the extra 5 damage as compensation for what would typically be a quick melee to a close range fighter.
>>341933812
Volskaya also has a door too big for a Reinhardt to just squat in all day. It's the smallest offender of the bunch.
>>341933812
You mean the left path that requires going over a void or the one where you have to go through the front? Hanamura and Volksaya are the two worst maps in terms of getting to point A.
What if McCree's shots did % damage? 1/6th for each bullet, meaning he can still be the tank killer but won't just shit on anyone in a single non-ability shot.
>>341907790
>doesn't understand that the game isn't supposed to be balanced
>>341934067
The void can be accessed by Tracer, Genji, D.Va, Pharah, maybe others but those 4 are more than enough.
Shit, Pharah alone can unleash hell in any turtle team on Volskaya, let alone with D.Va tagging along.
>>341907219
Blizzard did a good job with game making everyone feel like a winner.
>>341926510
>not padding your stats and destroying there's and enjoying it
>>341934267
I really have to wonder just how fucking stupid you would have to be to say something like this
>>341934267
He's not supposed to be a tank killer.
>>341932806
Kek, people would probably see you before you land if your that high, since he screams it out, especially widowmakers.
I've tried that once in a round. We were winning and pushing the payload pretty fast so I wanted to be cool and drop the beat from a really high place, but I got chained by a Roadhog and died.
>>341909041
>voting for yourself
How could one be so narcissistic.
>>341934267
So it should be just as hard for him to kill a Tracer as a Roadhog?
Did you put any thought into this post?
>>341934834
>Widowmaker taking you out of the air now post nerf
You can normally make it the only things to watch out for is roadhog
>>341906410
>Complaining about Zenyatta and Mercy's damage output
>>341928462
Has any hero of any game EVER been removed from the game permanently for being OP?
>>341926045
>HONEY, WHERE IS MY SUPER SUIT?
>>341934001
Eh, besides Hog I've seriously not seen anybody using melee attacks in this game.
I get the whole hitscan thing but McCree is still typically in the crossfire, he has less oportunities to get perfect shots than Pharah does. He also has damage falloff, Pharah's splash isn't nearly as bad in comparison.
Fan the hammer is good but it still requires close range, besides having nerfed damage and awful spread.
I dunno, anon. I don't really think Pharah needs to be fucked with.
>>341934992
Well that's why I gave a nerf suggestion.
>>341906410
holy shit this is the most retarded shit ive seen all day
>>341933281
0/10 damage control squirt
time for you to fuck off back to tumblr lol
DVa
>Remove movement speed reduction when firing
>Make 50 HP of her Mech a shield that regenerates with each use of Defense Matrix
>Make her invincible when jumping out of the Mech until you regain control in mid-air
Junkrat
>Make the direction a character is blasted towards from his Concussion Mine only dependent on the positioning of the mine and the positioning of the hit character in relation the mine, and not the direction of movement (input) of the hit character
>Slightly reduce the rate at which he builds Ultimate from normal grenade (M1) hits
Lucio
>Reduce his non-boosted healing slightly
Mei
>Increase the time between attacks on repeated M2 clicks (similiar to McCree, but not necessarily as much)
Mercy
>Drastically lower the rate at which she gains Ultimate from anything but pistol/melee kills
>Slightly reduce the damage of her pistol
>Slightly reduce the time of invulnerability on resurrected characters (more akin to Reaper's teleport)
Reinhardt
>Lower the attack speed of his M1 attack
>Reduce the damage of his charge attack
Soldier 76
>Increase bullet spread on long distance slightly
Tracer
>Reduce the rate at which she gains Ultimate
Widowmaker
>Remove headshot bonus from her AR
>Make her Ultimate more audible for the enemy team
Zenyatta
>Increase his HP by 50
>>341913921
If it's purely movement, it's like Blink or Slash but worse, rendering McCree's existence redundant.
why does mei have European like large eyes if she is a chink?
>>341934568
Not really, if you don't get into the top 4 stats at the end or POTG (the ones you vote for) it makes you feel like deadweight.
>>341935640
im just glad you are too stupid to ever be in a position to actually balance a game
>Either slow down the speed at which Mei freezes, or take away/reduce the damage her spray does
>Tracer does too much damage
>Some characters get Ults WAY too quickly
>Genji's Ult is useless--he needs a speed boost or some slight armor or something
>Take Hanzo out of the game
>Bastion's turret needs a slight damage nerf and should be limited to a cone and not a full 360 range
>>341935640
>Widowmaker
>Remove headshot bonus from her AR
>Make her Ultimate more audible for the enemy team
what's with all of these shitter retards who want to butcher widowmaker AFTER she just got nerfed all of a few days ago?
you have no one to blame but yourself for being such a moron. git gud or fuck off, kid.
>>341936013
top 4 commend cards are fucking stupid
>block like 4000 damage as zarya
>zarya on the other team barely blocks 1000 and gets a card for it while I get nothing
>>341936161
Not an argument.
>>341934001
Hitscan classes have drastic damage dropoff at range. Pharah has no damage dropoff and gets splash damage that's still full damage too, and because it's a projectile, she can lay down suppressing fire much better by shooting and moving behind cover.
She also lets Mercy more or less fly with her too, and is a prime candidate for healing/damage boosting, thanks to the infinite range and splash damage in a game built around taking specific points for extended times and also has tons of chokepoints.
>>341909212
Now these i can get behind
>give Zenyatta a bit more health/armor
>let Symmetra heal people if she uses her shield action on someone who already has armor on them
I'm cool with everything else.
>>341925861
Remember that potg is 10 seconds long, meaning the potg worthy moments have to be compiled within those 10 second burst.
Doing so well over the course of 30 seconds doesn't count by the game's rule.
>>341915328
>shift being used as a panic button like intended
>'Reaper would be better if his panic button wasnt used like a panic button'
>>341935640
>Slightly reduce the damage of her pistol
Her pistol's fine
>>341931859
You take less damage slightly if its armor instead of normal damage as HP
>>341936789
I love flying behind Pharahs.
>>341936365
She's an obnoxious character that completely controls the flow of a match if the person playing her isn't trash. No other character has the same degree of impact, not even a support.
>>341931859
Armor's better against characters that have automatic guns because it shaves off damage from each hit.
>>341936365
Look, you can call me whatever you want, maybe you have some more creative buzzwords and insults flying around in that precious brain of yours, who knows. But here's a very novel idea: how about you back up that snark with an actual argument? The fact that Widowmaker's scoped bodyshots just got nerfed, doesn't at all change the fact that her AR is incredibly strong as well. And the fact that her ultimate now takes around 10 seconds longer to charge on average, doesn't at all change the fact that her Ultimate is one of the least (if not the least) audible Ultimate in the game - which doesn't quite add up, because it's also one of the strongest.
>>341936650
>>341935640
He's saying your balances are stupid, and would ruin the already terrible balance the game has.
The balances you provided are as listed:
D.Va's is OP.
Junkrat's does literally nothing.
Lucio's makes his character useless.
Mei's is alright considering my own personal dislike for the character.
Mercy's makes her nearly pointless for anything but healing.
Reinhardt's makes him useless offensively and he's nothing more than a wall now.
Soldier 76's is understandable.
Tracer's is alright, if not crippling for players not good with the character.
Widowmaker's is retarded regarding the AR thing, but the Ultimate one is fine.
Zenyatta's is a bit too much, and would say 25 more shield is fine enough.
>>341935640
>Reduce 13 health pre second
No just fucking no
>>341935640
>Dva
oh shit nigger what are you doing
>Junkrat
I see no problem with the time he builds his ult, as he can lose all his charge if it gets shot before it explodes. Mine change is unnecessary.
>Lucio
Might be ok or crippling depending on the numbers
>Mei
What does this actually do for balance? Just sort of a needless slap in the face that doesn't change much of anything.
>Mercy
You want to give her more incentive to use her pistol and you're nerfing it?
>Reinhardt
Charge depends on the numbers, hammer nerf seems like it'd be too much on top of the charge nerf.
>76
Depending on where the accuracy falloff is could really hurt him.
>Tracer
Explain why
>Widowmaker
Seems like it would just make more sense to lower ammo count rather than remove skill. Ult change is fine.
>Zenyatta
LOVING
EVERY
LAUGH
2/10 apply yourself.
>>341937168
That's the kind of teamwork that gets me rock hard. Kudos.
>>341937486
>Changing 13 health pre second
>ok
Nigger no if you can't out dps it is your fault
>>341937184
>an obnoxious character that completely controls the flow of a match if the person playing [them] isn't trash
so you mean... ANY character someone is good with?
>>341935640
So a D.va main trying to overpower her shit waifu? Figures.
>>341906410
Real fixes coming through
-nerf all ultimates across the board
-announce widow's ultimate globally
-nerf widow's assault rifle damage, or redesign it completely because it's a stupid idea in the first place
-make d.va's critbox smaller
-give zenyatta a small movespeed buff for each of his active orbs
>>341937184
sounds like a case of you being a shitter. if a single hero fucks your shit, then it's YOUR fault. learn to play, moron.
>>341937342
tl;dr lmao. nice job getting triggered because you're too stupid to avoid a sniper, idiot.
>>341937574
That's why I said it depends on the number changes, if it's any more than a point or two he's garbage. That said I don't agree with nerfing Lucio, but it's more reasonable than the other pants on head changes he suggested.
>>341918106
i like this better
>>341937168
Good play anon, I love Pharrah. Environmental kills are way underrated.
>>341937372
I love how you either completely exaggerate the effect any of those changes would have, or you agree with them (but still call them stupid). Junkrat does nothing because his mine is more reliable and his ulti builds slightly slower? Lucio is useless because he has to do a bit more than just stand around and now his E actually matters? Mercy still being able to resurrect her entire team, albeit not as frequently, makes her completely pointless? You have got to be kidding me.
>>341918128
If you have Lucio he should be saving his ult too react to moments like that.
>>341934915
>not voting for yourself
what are you a cuck or something? I bet you even vote for the enemy team when you lose.
>>341906410
>Nerfing Zenyatta
Toilet paper man has it bad enough. Mercy just needs her ultimate tweaked. Charges too fast. Same goes for junkrat. Mei and Reaper shouldn't be able to contest the point while be invulnerable. And Mei's cryo shouldn't heal her. Reaper shouldnt be able to pick up items while in wraith form. Zenyatta needs a buff or something because he dies too fast.
>>341937976
I've gotten multiple PotGs as Pharah just by using her E to blast people off edges.
You can never fix Overwatch because it's designed for casuals. Most of the characters in the game are about closing distance and either holding down the fire button until something is dead or just facerolling with your character's skills. Then you have characters who all you need to do is hold down the fire button at any distance and you can perform well.
Very few characters are about actual aiming skill at all.
>junkrat yells "FIRE IN THE HOLE!"
>it's the same whether it's a junkrat on your team or the others
almost every other character has two different exclamations indicating ults, but junkrat and zarya don't
i just want to know whether or not i need to be making sure a tire isn't about to jump into my face
>>341937997
>"let's turn D.Va into a titanfall mech!"
>"let's make Junkrat's mine physics way more complicated than they need to be and make sure he never gets a rip-tire!"
>"let's make Lucio utterly trash at healing so nobody ever picks him over Mercy or Zenyatta, because his miniscule healing rate in groups is too high! not like pressing E every 10 seconds is going to result in a difference in the 3 seconds of healing it does!"
>"let's make sure Mercy never gets her Ult anymore since it builds slow enough on healing and nobody would want to take a chance pistoling an enemy with that weak of shots!"
Literally all your changes are nonsensical, and do not pair well with eachother in the slightest, you have no insight of interpreted player behaviors which would result from your asinine changes, and therefore you are being called out for being the retard you fail to see yourself as despite having your head shoved so far up your ass that you neglect to see that these "balances" would only be benefited from you and you alone. And that's why people see you as unfit to manage any sort of game balancing, you selfish retard.
Tobs turret snaps too fast and has a bit too much range. His ult also charges too fast. Hanzo's hitboxes are outrageous.
>>341906410
>reaload time is increased from 1 second to 5
>1 second to 5
Never apply for work in this industry.
>>341938717
To be honest the voice line variation in this game is very poor, it really takes away from the personality.
>>341938717
Wouldnt Zarya shout her shit in russian when shes on the other team?
Every other foreign character shouts in their native language when theyre on the other team
>>341938717
The enemy team's voices will always be louder.
>>341938717
Yes they do. Zaraya will yell it out in russian if its on the enemy team. Junrat says "start your engines when its on your team".
>>341938717
Zarya speak in russsian when in the other team, otherwise it's FIRE AT WILL
>>341938717
Junkrat has a different line if he's on your team though. He says "start your engines" if the ult is coming from your junkrat.
>>341938842
I'd like to think they meant time between sniper shots instead of reload time.
>>341938929
She does.
>>341938717
Zarya does, Junkrat's is weird though. Fire in the hole is the one but he'll sometimes say something else if it's friendly.
>>341938717
Pretty sure junk rat says something different if he's on your team. Maybe I'm wrong
>>341938771
>putting quotation marks after a quotation arrow
kill yourself
>>341939121
>>341938979
the thing is, when you use an ult, your team will usually hear one thing and the enemy team will hear another, but you will hear the same thing everytime
for example, when you're a junkrat, the team will hear "start your engines" or whatever, but the enemy team AND you will hear "fire in the hole"
>trying to balance a game intended for people who can't aim
lmao
>>341938717
You're an idiot.
>>341938717
They obviously didn't put much thought into Junkrat considering he's the most autopilot character this game has to offer
>>341909041
>he decided to screenshot 23 elims and a 18 killing streak as if it was impressive in the slightest
See you back when you reach 50 in a pub, my little shitter
>>341937486
>oh shit nigger what are you doing
Nice argument.
>I see no problem with the time he builds his ult, as he can lose all his charge if it gets shot before it explodes. Mine change is unnecessary.
I don't care whether or not his ultimate is shot down everytime. The fact that the enemy is forced to do this every 30 seconds (to a minute) is annoying and gives him too many opportunities for easy multikills. This wouldn't be so bad if I had exaggerated with the 30s-1m/Ultimate, but that is the rate at which even mediocre Junkrat's consistently pump out their wheels.
>Might be ok or crippling depending on the numbers
That is the intended effect, yes. Lucio is too strong right now. This would make his E more valuable and his team slightly less reliant on just mindlessly being healed.
>What does this actually do for balance? Just sort of a needless slap in the face that doesn't change much of anything.
It punishes bad Meis who miss their first headshot and makes it harder to kill frozen Tanks.
>You want to give her more incentive to use her pistol and you're nerfing it?
I agree that this might be overdoing it.
>Charge depends on the numbers, hammer nerf seems like it'd be too much on top of the charge nerf.
How so? Reinhardt dishes out insane damage considering that his primary function is to shield his allies. The charge would still lead to frequent kills but also give the enemy team a slight chance to react and protect the affected hero.
>Depending on where the accuracy falloff is could really hurt him.
I was thinking of a distance like from before the entrance to the 2nd point on Hanamura, to the enemy spawn.
>Explain why
Because even decent Tracer players consistently get ultimates every 30 seconds. It's too much, it's annoying and it defies the whole reasoning behind having "ultimates" in the first place.
>Seems like it would just make more sense to lower ammo count rather than remove skill. Ult change is fine.
Fine.
>LOVING EVERY LAUGH
Argument?
>widowmaker's ult only affects teammates when she's not in sniper view
>>341939370
>"quotation arrow"
It is summer after all.
Glad you're too stupid to form a cohesive argument to counter my points though, cheers.
>>341939602
Where's your screenshot?
My proposed balance changes.
>you can no longer contest a point while invulnerable (Reaper ghost mode, Mei iceblock, Zenyetta ult)
>You lose a % of ult charge on death
>alternatively lose all of your ult charge on death and maybe slightly buff the charge rates for some heroes
>TIGHTEN THE FUCKING HITBOXES OR JUST DO MESH COLLISION IF IT ISN'T TOO CPU INTENSIVE
>>341906410
So is Roadhog OP? Right click>hook>melee kills most characters and if it doesn't, a single left click after usually will. Hell, right click alone can kill most characters since it does something ridiculous like 300 damage at perfect range. Also self healing.
Nerf Junkrat
>reduced flat splash damage rate from 80 to 60
>rate of fire lowered
>Mine can now only be detonated on the ground
Junkrat is like Lucio in that there is never a situation in where he is a bad pick. He is great both on Defense and Offense because of his brainless area denial, his ability to shit out 300 damage if someone gets close almost instantly, and you can literally just spam the fire button from a safe distance and completely deny the enemy the Payload or the Hill.
Literally nobody needs to be nerfed except for widow. And widow doesn't even need that much of a nerf.
>>341940570
His hook combo is all he has, he has no utility skills what-so-ever, he can't protect his team, his ult is garbage unless you're near a ledge, and he feeds the enemy team Ult if he's under fire constantly since he's all HP. Roadhog is fine the way he is, you need characters that can counter shit like Tracer and Genji otherwise they'll run rampant.
>>341906410
how do i report this image to blizzard?
>>341937706
These are good. I like these.
>>341937706
>MAKE EVERYONE DO NO DAMAGE
Fucking league fags I swear.
>>341910895
yea no, it can slide through a key hole and pull you back through it. It really should just get a more accurate hit box so it hits obstacles on the way out way more often than it does.
>>341940816
>>Mine can now only be detonated on the ground
This is the only one I agree with. It's being used too offensively right now.
>>341910848
You can kill her before she revives people during her ult, it is in like the first second though and pretty tough to shut down.
>>341941580
I think those are all fair Junkrat nerfs, he is far too autopilot right now, he doesn't need to put himself at risk to deal absurd damage and clear areas.
>>341938771
>let's turn D.Va into a titanfall mech!
The fact that you even played that game says more about you than it does about me. Also literally not an argument, you see the pattern, right?
>let's make Junkrat's mine physics way more complicated than they need to be and make sure he never gets a rip-tire!
I'm actually talking about making his "mine physics" more consistent and easier to predict. Also, did you miss the word "slight" in my post? Because that is what I said and that is what I meant. No one but you is talking about "Junkrat never getting an Ultimate again", that is pure reductio ad absurdum introduced into the argument by you, not by me.
>let's make Lucio utterly trash at healing so nobody ever picks him over Mercy or Zenyatta, because his miniscule healing rate in groups is too high! not like pressing E every 10 seconds is going to result in a difference in the 3 seconds of healing it does!
If you pick Zenyatta as a healer at the moment, you're doing it wrong anyway. Lucio's passive heal is simply too rewarding and makes him an autopick in every single match.
>let's make sure Mercy never gets her Ult anymore since it builds slow enough on healing and nobody would want to take a chance pistoling an enemy with that weak of shots!
Again, no one is talking about "Mercy never getting her ult". Having 2-3 Mercy ults per game instead of 5+ would be a welcome change, that is all.
>Literally all your changes are nonsensical, and do not pair well with eachother in the
slightest
Except for all of the ones that you already agreed with and now conveniently ignored.
And the rest is just the usual insults. Let me ask you a question though: Imagine that we would be having this discussion at Blizzard right now, with their Overwatch leads listening. Who do you think would they rather listen to? Someone who argues peacefuly and calmly (however wrong his arguments might be), or someone who spews insults and attaches them with facebook reaction images?
>>341941508
>NO NO NO STOP DISAGREEING WITH ME
>>341940071
I'm not reading your posts because you type like a retard
>>341941508
I agree his hook could use some fine tuning on it's accuracy, but if you fuck with the cool down he'll see less play that he already does.
>>341927197
>half of hooks pull character to side or behind you
play reaper or 76 and shit on him
>>341942225
Reaper is the only Attacker that directly counters Roadhog, 76 just gets combo'd. If Reaper gets hooked he has a better chance of surviving the full combo, and Roadhog's rate of fire is so slow that Reaper easily out DPSs him not to mention Wraith Form.
>>341919443
thats not really "odd", finding six other players is much easier than finding 11
What is Roadhog's M2 ever good for? It seems to do much less damage than his M1?
>>341918106
It's really interesting but it would be ass backwards from all the other characters. I don't think reaper is the problem (not allowing him to pick up health kits in wraith form would be nice though). Those health kits are fucking cancer, they heal way to quick, I think it should heal you the same amount but over a slower amount of time ( like maybe 5 seconds for the big packs), that way you don't get totally boned when someone picks one with 25 hp left.
>>341942593
it's for enemies outside of M1 length
damage depends on how many pellets hit just like M1
>>341942593
For people outside your M1 range, if you can headshot with it, it does a lot of damage.
>>341941749
>"The fact that you even played that game..."
I haven't. So good job taking the bait though you filthy Titanfag.
>"I'm actually talking about making his "mine physics" more consistent and easier to predict. Also, did you miss the word "slight" in my post?"
So you admit my initial sentiments regarding your change ("Junkrat's does literally nothing.") are correct? That's an odd way of saying it.
>"If you pick Zenyatta as a healer at the moment, you're doing it wrong anyway."
You've never played as him, have you?
>"Again, no one is talking about "Mercy never getting her ult". Having 2-3 Mercy ults per game instead of 5+ would be a welcome change, that is all."
Your rounds must be lasting over 20 minutes, because I only ever see 2-3. Double that if both teams have one Mercy.
>"Except for all of the ones that you already agreed with and now conveniently ignored."
Except that not only have I already explained why I agreed for some and said they are still stupid in the long run, you conveniently ignored them with your post here: >>341937997
by only listing 3 of the changes you mentioned while I initially went over all of them. So you're going to blame me for something you did? That's some pretty backwards logic, but understandable seeing as you're retarded.
>"And the rest is just the usual insults."
Calling out a retard for being retarded is only as insulting as you interpret it. I mean I could just call out your samefagging seeing as you and I are the only ones talking about my posts as nobody else fucking cares.
>" Imagine that we would be having this discussion at Blizzard right now, with their Overwatch leads listening. Who do you think would they rather listen to? Someone who argues peacefuly and calmly (however wrong his arguments might be), or someone who spews insults and attaches them with facebook reaction images?"
I would be your Overwatch lead and you would be fired for being a retard. Stop being so passive-aggressive.
>>341942593
Smaller spread
>>341922719
well this is a more complicated issue, cause in a no latency scenario if you were behind the wall the hook would never hit, but in online land, you could have made it behind the wall but on roadhog's screen your 3 ft back and he hit that version of you, resulting on your screen you getting pulled literally through a wall.
>>341941994
You wouldn't know whether or not I've typed like a retard unless you've read my post.
Congratulations, you played yourself.
>>341917587
lol some fucking retard on /v/ saying something is bad design. Kill yourself
>>341943563
I don't have to read your entire post to know that if you type >" you aren't going to have anything useful to say
>>341924258
just to add to the point, blizzard has added acceptations to this by making the targets client trump the shooters client for certain abilities. with something like this that results in an insta death, shouldn't a similar rule be in place?
>>341943762
But you just did, didn't you?
>>341940570
roadhog is for sure bottom 10, maybe even bottom 5 right now outside of koth but of course shitters like yourself think "oh he does damage he's op"
>>341943875
>>341943563
>posting pictures of a bad rapper for no reason
kys reddit
>>341943918
Not him, but is there another hero that can force Bastion out of turret form? That makes him at least good in my opinion.
>>341944027
I've actually never been on Reddit before, I just know Khaled is the guy who says "you played yourself", right? That's why.
>>341926453
I'll make a compromise:
An invisible shot that does no damage is fired, completely straight, like McCree's normal shots, on any weapon with spread.
If that shot hits, any shots that hit the head will crit. If it doesn't, no crits.
>>341942593
It's a solid block until it travels 8 meters after which it functions the same as M1. While a solid block it does 50 damage but if your target is 8-10 meters away it can oneshot people.
>>341944187
Pharah
Widow
Genji
Junkrat
>>341944187
bastion is countered by so many people so easily
roadhog being one of them doesn't make him useful
>>341926796
Were you all zenyatta earlier that match?
>>341942170
Yea I'm fine with roadhog on every level but that hook seems to weasel its way to me every time now matter what I put between us. Maybe if his hook was on cool down he wouldn't carry it in his hand? nerfing his hook too hard could kill him as a character seeing as that's pretty much what makes him.
>>341944895
No, D.Va from the start.
We were all Roadhog in another match, but we lost that one.
>>341945040
I see, me and a few friends had to deal with 4 d.va ults on overtime in hanamura. I was able to catch one with winston's shield. But we were all too scrubby to beat them in overtime.
Bastion has a entrenched mode that he can turn on and off. if he turns it on he gains precision shot placement but can only turn 180 degrees (this also comes with a laser sight that gives away his position). if it's off the range becomes as big as tracers when shes shooting. It takes a few seconds to setup and a second to turn off.
Bastion also gets a new ability that allows him to relocate himself, if he plants down a becon he can relocate back to it after a few seconds (the becon is the same as 76s but only the node is visibile to the enemy). Allowing him to trick the enemy with his last location and fire on them when they try to ambush him.
howsa that
Hey guise, so yesterday i was playing as reaper since my main mccree got nerfed and holy fuck, blizzard can't balance for shit. Here, I will balance the game for them:
>give reaper shotgun 10 armor per click
>make his teleport instantaneous
>increase shotgun damage, like holy fuck mei keeps killing me close quarters
>reduce cooldown to wraith form
While I'm at it
>reduce mei health to 150 (why does she have more health than pharah?)
>remove bastion turret mode (like, he has heals and damage too? c'mon)
There, fixed the fucking game.
>>341926698
Stefania Ferrario. Her hair changes frequently, but it's typically in some manner of short.
Does any one know how I can get my hands on more Zarya futa. That's what I came into the thread for.
>>341946039
You almost had me.
>>341946039
>make his teleport instantaneous
do people really use his teleport? like I always stay with my team and just act like a bruiser that kills anything that gets too close.
It feels like its only purpose is to setup his ultimate.
>>341943563
>>341943875
Avatar fagging is against the rules.
>>341928720
>necro is drawing overwatch
Welp time to check the tumblr and fap again
>>341946431
You use it to flank the back line as well.
>>341946507
I suppose but most of the time it gets me into a shit situation where a sniper will see me when I teleport.
It's also buggy as fug.
>>341940816
The whole point of his character is making an area dangerous to walk through. That's why he's in the defense group
>>341946613
This patch actually fixed it for the most part. I haven't had weird moments with it since it at least.
>>341906410
kay why ass
>>341940816
How to fix junkrat
mines in the air do 55 damage
mines on the ground do full damage
Mines are reset when he gets a kill
>>341947802
If it detonates before it hits the ground it should damage him. He shouldn't just be able to throw it in your face when your standing next to him without penalty. Every other explosion still hurts you.
make lucio heal more
>>341947992
Anyone who's played Junkrat for more than 5 minutes will know the mines are used for transportation and escaping from bad situations
>>341947992
because he should be able to use it to get away without getting hurt.
>>341948101
They also do insane aoe damage. Anyone who plays Junkrat for more than 5 minutes realizes that they also do insane damage on a short cooldown.
>how to fix overwatch
>burn it all down
fixed op
>>341946448
Good thing nobody is.
>>341906410
>make Mercy and Pharah officially partners
>make Widowmaker officially D.Va's lesbian mistress
>>341948189
That's why I play him
That and I'm a demoman main in TF2 and I have a hard on for Mad Max themed characters
>>341948380
Don't try to make anything from the ashes either. They're tainted. Start completely anew.
>All these nerf suggestions
There are no OP hero's in this game only UP
>>341946431
>do people really use his teleport?
>These are the types of people you get matched with
>>341930749
hes right you know
>>341948870
Given it's incredibly slow to start, slow to come out of, and has a fully voiced sentence loud as an ult to accompany it, it is kinda shit. Really fucking finnicky on what it hooks onto if you do it while moving.
>>341948710
After the McCree and Widow nerfs I actually agree. Everyone has a pretty good counter now.
>Widowmaker
>Buffs
+Every 360° adds up 1.7 3xCritSeconds
-25% damage taken while zoomed in
>Debuff
-200% Butt Size
WOULD YOU TAKE IT
>>341946613
That's part of the point of his teleport. Use it to get near/behind a sniper so you can take them out for your team, then drop down and try and pick off their healer.
>>341949118
Anon stop baiting me. Also just so any shittiers don't fall for this. He doesn't play a voice line for the enemy
>>341906410
>Widow
Widow should do pathetic damage on body shots, the bullet magnetism is bad enough int's not like it needs to be even more casual with 120 damage body shots.
>Bastion
There just needs to be some sort of audio cue for when he goes into turret mode, like a spin up sound so that it doesn't feel like getting cheap shot when you turn a corner and get ripped in half.
>Zenyatta
If anything they should give him 175 Health, and make his ult's AoE bigger, most of the time you'll have to bounce around between teammates because they won't stick close to get healed.
>Mercy
Reduce the AoE or the charge time, a mediocre Mercy is still almost always better than a good Zen or Lucio because of her Ult alone.
>Genji
Literally git good, you should be attacking from angles that people don't expect.
>Mei
Increase the range of the freeze spray and increase the time it takes to freeze, make her Cry freeze break if she takes 500 damage
>Zarya
Increase the damage on both her attacks but reduce the AoE splash of her alt fire or add a slight charge timeOr not, whatever.
>>341950404
>Widow should do pathetic damage on body shots
this is what a shitter looks like everybody
gather around and marvel at this fine retarded specimen
>>341949536
Yes, he does play a voice clip for the enemy where he teleports from. Pretty much any time you're using it for vertical movement, you can hear him crystal clear. It's really, REALLY evident in the last two stretches of Gibralter.
>>341937168
What a bro!, great save anon, wish I could play with people like you :3
>>341950649
>not being able to hit head shots
>when you can be a full reticle off and it will pull your bullet into their heads
>"I should get good damage anyway!"
How much of a casual can you be? If you can't hit them in the head with the game already holding your hand and doing half the work for you, you shouldn't do damage as a sniper. Get. Good.
>>341941580
No. The instant detonate mine is his defense mechanism. Reduce the damage, but do not mess with the timing.
>>341928164
Watch the killfeed, look for sidesalad.
>>341951143
His trap is literally his defensive mechanism.
>>341937976
Environment kills are retarded and too easy. But this is mostly because the maps are retarded.
Blizzard needs to just remove Hanzo, there is literally no reason for such a fucking skill less character to exist in this game. You can give a fucking child a controller and they'll rack up kills as Hanzo.
>>341951197
The mine does that a lot better, though.
>>341951518
Blowing it up the second you throw it is offensive, not defensive.
>>341951507
>no one uses hanzos sight thing correctly
It drives me up the fucking wall because it's the most powerful ability in the game. Like fuck, shoot it at the wall where the enemy team usually ambushes from. You will help out so much.
>>341951606
Not really. It punts away enemies and yourself if you jump, creating distance that Junkrat likes. Sometimes they die from it, agreed too often. Reduce the damage, don't fuck with the timing.
>>341925756
>increase pistol damage
Jesus christ no. The Cadeus Blaster does 20 damage per shot, has a second of reload time. It actually does more damage than Zero Suit D.Va [14]. Putting it at 30 with it's rate of fire would be fucking insane. To compare S76 does between 5-17 per round depending on the distance. Mercy has a flat 20 and can fire 5 rounds per second. 5 rounds. If every shot hits that's 100 damage she just made an enemy eat.
Mercy is fine as is.
>>341913064
>niggas always so salty about the ice-chink
Git gud bruh, just don't walk into her.
>>341951765
>agreed too often
I accept your apology.
>>341951842
That was what I was saying the whole time, senpai.
>>341916872
for the same reason as tracer and zenyyatta cant take a bullet(even though they have metal chests) but hanzo can, becuase metal-piercing lasers that cant go through human skin.This theory is also shown through the fact that road hog has the most fat/skin and has the most skin
>>341951819
just remove her stupid freeze from the game, make it some sort of speed thing so she can ice skate around the map or whatever, or like make enemy players slide around incontrollably. It's just a shit tier crutch that pisses people off.
How about you fix the shitty netcode and tickrates.
So fun to get sucked into a reinhardt charge because panjeep is an entire second behind the rest of the server with his shit covered internet connection.
Another thing is fix the fucking movement positions for abilities like blink and genji's dash. The server does not actually register you changing position until after you FINISH the charge/blink. That lets panjeep kill you mid charge as he sees you not having moved yet as he lags behind.
ITS SHIT
>>341952261
Sounds like you're bad because you're mad.
>>341952261
Reinhardt's charge as such an obvious start up that if you get pinned it's your fault.
If anything the stun afterward should be longer. I've charged a Roadhog down to 96 health only for him to heal once he recovered and shoot me in the fucking hate. Roadhog should have a nerf to his healing ability. If someone so much as sneezes at him it should end his health regen. Force the character to get behind cover to use it--not tank attacks and stay on the frontlines.
>>341936504
>Gold medal elims with 30.
>Reapers 20 souls consumed is more important.
Decrease Torbjorn's turret accuracy at after a certain distance. It's pretty annoying to be getting hit with 100% accuracy from across the fucking map from a turret.
>>341952518
>tank character has literally no ability to actually tank other than a heal that makes him be perfectly still for like 3 seconds
>omfg I tried to solo him and died wtf nerf
stick to LoL idiot
If you think Overwatch has substantial balance issues you're probably fucking garbage at video games
Post your Master Overwatch profile and let us weigh your opinions against how you actually play
>>341952729
Fucking this.
>>341952518
You have bad reading comprehension. I said sucked in. I dodge it but Blizzard's lazy "favor the shooter" system moves me back in the way of the charge. As in I move away the path of the charge on my screen, but on panjeep's screen I haven't moved yet as he is behind the rest of the server.
If have shit latency the system heavily favors you as other players will not be able to correctly dodge/understand positioning since the lagging instance of the match is so skewed from everyone else's but still has power to influence server decision making (confirming hit/misses).
>>341951643
Hanzo was distinctly designed for consoles. It's clear Blizzard intended for Widow to be the PC sniper and Hanzo to be the console sniper.
>auto aim out the fucking ass
>Scatther Arrow in general
>arrow hitboxes the size of Manhatten
Hanzo is fucking out of this world retarded on consoles.
>>341952729
>torbs turret hits me
>be anyone with range because the range in this game is stupid long
>dead turret
>>341953027
Why do you have to include racial slurs in your argument? There are just as many Americans with shite internet as other countries.
>>341911085
So one person switches to Zarya and suddenly you're hard countered and the other team doesn't even have to miss out on team EHP pool or DPS
>everyones yelling at blizzard to remove the reload on roll and buff it so it kills tracers and genjis effectively or just give FAN a cooldown
>instead they do the opposite thing and nerf the damage making it impossible to fan tracers/genjis and hes still a good tank killer
>>341953169
Tell me, do you poo in loo?
>>341938441
>Mei's cryo shouldn't heal her
Then what the fuck is it good for?
>>341953445
I do. Unlike you my game isn't shit though.
>>341953418
>can't kill tracers and genjis
>but he can still kill tanks
I would absolutely love to hear this explanation
>>341911420
>blink behind wall
>still get hooked and dragged through 2 walls
Unacceptable
>>341953159
I just think it's stupid that, for example, you could be coming in the home stretch of King's Row and be up against the wall on the opposite end of that last little avenue before the goal with a turret posted behind the goal and get hit 100% of the time by the turret. I drew a picture if my description wasn't clear enough of how much distance is between you and the turret.
>>341954145
Literally the only way to win on offense on Kings Row is to have a perfect balanced team, save all ults to be up on time, and pop them all one after another to break through.
>>341954145
go left
>mfw win/loss is about even and I'm matched with people over my level even though I've never played more than a day's worth of time on any online FPS
>>341953970
Mcree does 40 damage per shot with his fan
there is .2 seconds of wait time after casting stun for fan to activate. you now have .5 seconds to shoot. You shoot once every .2 seconds getting about 2-3 shots on a tracer
IF YOU ARE LUCKY this might do 145 damage in total to her before she teleports out.
It's is 100% better to use left click than fan, and fan is still perfectly useable against tanks what with it's 505 combined damage. And if you combo correctly by headshotting first you do 605 damage on tanks.
>>341906410
>Nerfing zen
Give the omnigger a break, he's already one of the toughest characters to use well.
>>341919090
Zenyatta needs to be able to regen all his health like mercy can.
S76 fall off dmg compensates for the no recoil, same for mccree
>>341906410
>wanting Mercy's pistol to be nerfed
Holy shit. You may be the worst Overwatch player on /v/.
>>341933281
Only console kiddies have trouble with toblerone m8
>>341915824
Not him, but I want Mei removed from the game for entirely different reason than her being OP (She isn't).
I want her removed because she was designed from the ground up to be a nuisance. Her entire kit revolves around aggravating people and slowing down the pace of the game. Her and characters like her actively make the games they're in worse.
>>341954784
you can literally flash and shoot a tracer once in the head and she dies
idiot
>>341955338
No shit, but I'm saying Fan does the opposite of what it used to do and what it was supposed to do.
That and you have to make sure you hit the headshot, which can be difficult if they kept momentum while stunned, That and it's impossible to kill genjis.
>>341955112
>capable of killing anyone that tries to kill me when my patient is distracted
love mercy
>>341925704
that's tracer not mei
>mei
reduce the range of her freeze gun
>reinhardt
scale the size of the shield down to where a player needs to duck in order for the shield to sit flushed against the ground
>>341955728
Then you're shit. Pharrah easilly destoys her.
How do I stop losing my mech almost instantly as D.Va?
All the enemy teams I encounter seem to be ridiculously coordinated and even point blank my gattling laser things do pitiful damage.
>>341906410
>how to make the game easier
>t. Noobies noob boob
>>341958338
go vertical with boosters. If you see enemies use your shield to mitigate damage.
Shit recharges.
Need a Harambe skin for Winston, should be done out of respect.
>>341906410
Play Battleborn, the vastly superior game
>Blizzard has the audacity to rate Pharah a 1 Star in terms of difficulty to play while McCree has 2, Hanzo and Genji have 3, and Zarya has 3
It's like they don't even play the game.
>Nerf Mercy
>Nerf Zenyatta
>Don't touch Lucio
Yeah, fuck this bait thread.
>>341959030
Meryc's Ult could use some tweaking. It's charge is insanely fast and it's near instant.
