How to fix overwatch characters:
>Widowmaker
Headshots deal 300 damage while bodyshots only deal 50 and reaload time is increased from 1 second to 5
>Bastion
Bastion's machine gun can only hold 100 rounds
>Zenyatta
Discord orb increases damage by 25% instead of 50%
>Mercy
Can only revive 3 players maximum as well as reduced pistol damage from 50 to 25
>Genji
Can only be about 25 feet away from the objective without immediately dying
>>341906410
>nerfing zenyatta
LMAO
>>341906410
mercy's pistol is 20 damage IIRC
>>341906410
>plz nerf characters I can't counter
Sweet mother of mercy get good
>>341906410
>while bodyshots only deal 50 and reaload time is increased from 1 second to 5
L
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>>341907068
lol no. This game is unbalanced as fuck. Git gudder scrublord
>feel like I'm kicking ass
>Don't even get a medal for eliminations
Feels bad man.
>>341906410
>complaining about Mercy damage . toppest fucking kek
>>341907219
Did your team win ?
Get good.
The game is for the most part entirely balanced as is. With only minor buffs and nerfs needed.
Zenyatta needs 50 armor on his health (logic being he is an omnic)
D.va needs to have a smaller critical hitbox & slightly better mobility whilst shooting
When reaper consumes the souls of enemies they will be revived with 50% health
That's basically all I want changed.
>>341907368
Yeah we won. Steam rolled attacks on Russian industries map, didn't even get the first point.
>>341907173
>Proposes crippling nerfs due to inability to adapt
>Tells others to get good
Have you considered that video games may just not be for you?
>>341906410
The game is balanced, fuck off.
>>341906410
How to fix overwatch characters:
>thickening mods
>sluttier skins
>nude skins
>>341907481
>When reaper consumes the souls of enemies they will be revived with 50% health
What?
How is that fucking minor?
>>341906410
>Roadhog
A hook hitbox that's not the size of a truck
Slightly longer startup time on throw or reduced hook speed
No more hooking through fucking walls
>zen nerf
ur litrally retard
>>341907563
Lol I can adapt and I have. Blizzard fails to make a balanced game so I balanced it for them. Fuck off Blizzcuck
>>341907368
The priest gains control of his own mind, unless something hijacked his brain in the interim since the casting, in which case he will control that creature‘s (in his own body) mind.
Not hard.
>>341907680
It's just to give a counter mercy revive. Probably shouldn't be that drastic. Maybe 75%.
But you get the idea
>>341907790
Frogposter go home
>>341907680
also it would be retarded, cuz you heal full in the fountain
>>341907858
So what, you're too shit to be able to kill people that you feel that, if you kill them once, you should get a handicap so it's easier for you to kill them again and again?
This is hardest bait I've seen in my life. Please, nobody fall for it.
>>341907219
>Thinking I'm doing average edge
>Realize I have 3 gold medals and I was pretty much a target for the enemy team
I almost had PoTG too but this hanzo shoot and q in a closed are where 3 of my team where passing, guess what happened. I really felt like I was simply killing easy targets and pushing the car, took 5 min to finish the match.
>>341906410
Wew lad
>>341906410
>How to fix overwatch characters:
Have every character do randomly 1-1000 damage with every shot, and randomize all life totals to 1-1000 every ten seconds. All skills should have random properties and be shuffled every second.
>>341906410
desu I think the game is balanced pretty well right now so I'm just doing this for shits and giggles
>Widowmaker
Shots in sniper mode take up 5 rounds of ammo instead of 3
>Bastion
You can no longer reload turret form ammo by exiting and reentering turret form
>Zenyatta
More mobility
>Mercy
The time it takes to revive increases subtly for each hero you're reviving
>Genji
Faster Dragonblade swing speed/recovery
There you go OP, fixed
>nerfing zenyatta
just sneeze at him and he dies
>>341909208
This would be a fun Brawl mode
>>341906410
why do the shittest players never respond to text chat
BUFF LUCIO'S GUN
The jump pack should be nerfed desu
>>341906410
nothing wrong with Widowmaker, she's fixed.
Remove Lucio's little jump when he does his drop the beat Ult.
>Mfw when I drop the beat, but get sniped before he hits the ground due to his little jump.
Is there anything to combat desperation plays right at the end of games?
Like you've put up a great defense all game long and have basically stopped the payload dead multiple times, good team work etc etc.
The enemy teams shits it seeing they have 30 seconds left and just shits out a parade of Ults one after another. Pushing it past a checkpoint or taking the last objective.
Like they have had a shit awful compostition for the entire game and within the last minute they shit out a Mercy, a Lucio and two Winstons leaving you no time to react and switch characters like your meant to.
>>341906410
Play shitty game get shitty results
>>341906410
None of those characters need nerfing.
Play better.
Only things that need nerf now that cowboy is nerf is roadhog hook and ult. Hook needs to be remove and and ult damage needs to go down. Oh yeah and weeaboo katana damage needs to be increased by like 1.5x to better reflect the superiority of Japanese steel.
Then maybe I'll buy the game again since I still have it for free after chargeback the purchase lmao.
>>341909395
Fucking this. I can duel almost any other character in the game yet for some reason I am not allowed to actually kill any of them because I do so little damage even with headshots that they can all use their escape mechanics to slowly fuck off back to their team.
The only time I get to actually have a bit of fun fighting people is fucking off from my team to kill Widows a mile away.
>>341910387
You don't lose your ult if you die before the beat drops so what's the problem?
All ults have some startup animation.
>>341910775
>All ults have some startup animation.
HEROES NEVER DIE
>>341907728
You're going to make him useless 90% of the time like that.
Most people already see the hook coming a mile away.
>>341910848
He- UUUHH!
>>341910848
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341910198
her leg is detached though
>>341910639
>hook needs to be remove
I can smell the salt
>>341910895
Yet theres fuck all they can do about it. Think your outside of its range? Too bad, think your behind that wall? Too bad. Think you might be able to get away using that escape skill? Too bad fuck you here left click melee.
>>341910917
Meanwhile, the res is completing.
>>341910917
Still goes off.
>>341906410
The only one of these that weren't retarded was the Bastion change.
>>341911085
It's gonna be people like you crying about Pudge all over again, isn't it?
Hog is a colossal target, he has no mobility, you should not be engaging him at close range.
Literally git gud, preferably get some non-shitter sniper on your team.
>>341907790
>fails to make balanced game
>i balance it for them
Autism/retarded
Daily reminder that instead of nerfing characters, Blizzard should take the Valve route and make everyone else stronger.
This generally makes the game as a whole more dangerous and fun IMHO
>>341906410
Is there an animated version of this?
>>341911420
This is not a moba, theres no way to simply completely avoid a frontline damage centered tank, not with the amount of choke points and capture areas that are in this game. In addition to that the hook has a fucking retarded range in the first place.
Yeah hes a big target but he can also eat Tracer Ults like they were nothing and shrug off Tires like a piece of piss. Hes in every single last Pub game because he has a straight forward gameplay loop of see something move throw hook in general direction hold down M1 then Melee. Rinse Reapeat and heal if you have no Mercy.
I would actually prefer to see him given some other facet to work with, some other mechanic other than brainlessly throwing hooks at everything.
I mean fuck they even do it behind players backs when a simple left click would kill. Nope gotta do my sick hook combo for my sick card at the end of the game.
Give Roadhog something.
Hes TOO balanced to the point of uselessness.
You know how in RPGs jack of all trade characters tend to suck because anything they can do another character can do better? Roadhog is kinda like that.
>>341911047
KEK
>>341910198
Widowmaker should be removed from the game completely
>>341912565
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>>341908084
A team shouldn't be rewarded for dying. If a close range class was in the fray next to ton of enemies they killed without dying, why shouldn't that ult be penalized? Full health on something that spammable is already dumb as fuck in a push-heavy game.
>>341906410
>nerf mercy pistol
this bait is real
>i fell for it
>>341912771
not being rewarded
some ults can seriously cause a group to explode
the counter is having a mercy that is still alive
if she is still alive you failed to do your job
> D.Va
No movement loss when firing weapon (This was a change made when she used to have a higher DPS so it needs reverting now)
> Hanzo
Reduce his health to 150.
> Torb
Increase how long his Ultimate takes to charge
> Reinhardt
If already Charging, take priority over Roadhog's hooks. If the hook catches you from behind, Roadhog gets dragged along with you.
> Symmetra
Shields increase based on a % based system
> Genji
Can't interrupt deflection.
> McCree
Roll doesn't reload weapon automatically.
> Mei
Remove from game
>>341912985
>Failed to do your job
It goes through fucking walls. She can be killed at the start of a fight and make it back from spawning to res everyone at the end of one. Through a fucking wall.
>>341906410
The Bastion idea is actually a good one hidden in the retardation.
>>341913064
>roll doesn't reload
literally what's the point then
>>341913160
only if she has someone to tether herself to otherwise she is as slow as everyone else.
>tfw everyone leaves the spawn and are too far away to fly to
>stupid fucks at least one of you wait 50 meters away so i can latch onto you
>>341913064
>Shields increase based on a % based system
I was thinking about this earlier and I love the idea.
>>341906410
>Here's a list of characters I have trouble with, they should be nerfed!
>Sniper class with massive mobility and utility
>full power shot charges in about a second
>reload time literally nonexistent because when sniping she can fire like 20 bullets before reloading
>the two above points mean that she can take as many shots as she needs as fast as possible to land one lucky headshot
Widowmaker is, objectively, the biggest shitter character in this game. Give her sniper mode 4 rounds before she has to reload and MAYBE I'll be convinced that she doesn't need to just be removed from the game completely.
>>341913297
Roll is meant to be a movement option. It gets you into somebody's face for the Flashbang combo, get to points quicker, or allows you to get out of dodge easier to get out of the line of sight of turrets or Ultimates.
Instead, it's being used so he can keep melting through the bigger guys, even with the damage nerf.
For the record, if it doesn't reload it should also have a shorter cool-down time to compensate.
>Reaper
Can't pick up health kits while wraith walking.
>Genji
Faster run speed. That's about it. He's a ninja but moves way too slowly.
>Hanzo
Either make bodyshots deal less damage or fix those broken fucking hitboxes.
>>341913346
Even without having someone to tether to I have personally killed a Mercy at the start of a big team fight only for her to make it back at the end and res 4 people. Its dis-enheartening, theres nothing you can do to stop it because she can hook onto ghosts and as soon as the H in Heroes is spoken the Ult is going to go off. Mercy is pure fucking aids.
>>341913865
200 Health :^) Would'nt want her to die to a Winston before at least grappling away and making him chase her once. Would'nt want to punish her for getting flanked by a Lucio and having to duel him with her Soldier 76 tier machine gun.
Zenyatta
>having healing orb heals you for whatever your target has healed
>>341914928
>not how it fucking works
100 of his 150 HP is shield, that's why he regenerates.
They need to help roadhog out. He feeds ults too much but other than that he is fine
Reaper would be a must more tolerable character if everyone who played him didn't use his Shift and Ultimate like they were fucking panic buttons.
>Oh shit, I'm about to die. Better wraith walk away and pick up a health kit to bring me back to full health before turning around and 1-shotting the guy following me!
>These guys ganged up on me but my shift is on cooldown! Looks like I'll have to press Q and get POTG again!
>>341912032
>This is not a moba, theres no way to simply completely avoid a frontline damage centered tank
You have a full extra dimension to work with. Zenyatta, Widow, Hanzo, Pharah, Genji, McCree, all of these characters can eat Hog for breakfast.
Yeah he doesn't die automatically from ults, but Junkrat barely has to aim to pump him full of grenades. He doesn't really have much of a way to avoid them and Junkrat doesn't need to even have him in his line of sight.
>I mean fuck they even do it behind players backs when a simple left click would kill. Nope gotta do my sick hook combo for my sick card at the end of the game.
Sounds like you're just upset. Some people don't like to take risks, deal with it. If they want to waste their hook cooldown, it's their loss.
>Mei
Takes slightly longer to freeze someone
No turning slowdown
>>341906410
>nerfing Zenyatta
ARE YOU ACTUALLY INSANE?
>>341913064
>>No movement loss when firing weapon (This was a change made when she used to have a higher DPS so it needs reverting now)
then she's entirely like winston instead of almost like him. she needs to be balanced in some other way
hanzo is already dogshit tier
oh
>mei is op xd!!
ok youre a retard nvm then i wont bother
>>341914239
>Be roadhog
>Go behind cover, cant see shit just to use Take a breather
>As soon as I press it I die
>Watch the kill cam, hanzo shoots an arrow past me and I fucking die, you can't even see my body
>>341906410
>how to fix overwatch characters
>make them more like tf2
>>341915464
Hog can one shot all of those characters, think your out of range? You never ever know when your out of range because there seems to be no set ruleset when it comes to the hook. Like I said when its thrown out on reaction its next to impossible to avoid. You can bait it out but thats horribly risky because while you might think you were completely behind that wall the hook might think otherwise and it always ALWAYS takes priority. Its having to go through the whole song and dance of being pulled to the Roadhog and trying to escape but never being able to escape so why bother trying to do it in the first place.
Its frustration. Its pure frustration. Like if the hook just killed me on contact I would be more happy with that. At least then I can spawn and get on with trying to kill him better this time.
>>341907631
This is the true light.
>tfw you get 3 potgs as Mercy that save the game including a quintuple rez on Lijiang tower
>>341915923
>mei is a pyro now with puff and sting
>buy game
>Constantly matched with level 60+ people at level 2
>Get utterly stomped
Why is this happening?
>>341916273
Last night that is
>>341916409
People have been telling me it's based on skill level but I've not paid it much mind.
For what it's worth, me and my buddies who are all around mid-30s stomped a team of 90s and 100s last night on Watchpoint Gibraltor.
>>341914928
Just increase him. 175. He gets killed by stray fucking fire.
>>341916273
>tfw getting potg for booping 4 people off the side of Lijang Tower.
Feels so much better than just bringing people back from the dead.
>>341906410
Possibly the most retarded list of potential changes I've ever heard.
>>341916218
>think your out of range?
All of those characters can fuck him up out of range. Shit, I main Pharah, unless there's some surface next to me so I can E myself quickly in some direction, I'm a prime Hook and hitscan weapon target.
Even then I don't find Hog difficult to deal with.
His hook does have a range, you need to calm your mind down and pay attention.
>>341916661
That's a good feel too, but that was my first time ever rezzing the entire team at once and it helped us keep the cap and win. This was also the same night I finally bought my valkyrie skin and a highlight intro.
>wears a suit of power armor
>less HP than some dudes in leather or less
Why is this allowed?
>>341916872
Balance reasons, the characters physical appearance has nothing to do with their stats.
>>341915464
Oh and yeah I quite possibly am upset outside of fan the hammer kills nothing quite irritates me as much as bring hooked out of a Blink, or a Rewind or something that no one would ever be able to react to like a flying Lucio through a doorway. Its like everyone that gets really angry about Mei, I can live with Mei because I rarely actually ever come across one. Roadhog is in every single last game and if hes not there from the start, someone will change to him at some point.
>>341916872
Its a flight suit, so its more than likely made from very very light material.
>>341916872
She would be pretty OP with more health.
She already has decent mobility and a pretty strong weapon. She's not supposed to be in the middle of a crossfire, but in the air.
She can't be both beefy AND out of the way.
>>341916994
That's bad character design
>>341913921
No it's not. It doesn't even have invincibility. I thought it was the most useless ability in the game before I found out it reloaded his gun.
>>341906410
>Bastion's machine gun can only hold 100 rounds
that makes him useless
here
>bastion now has double the ammo count he normally does in turret mode
>in order to reload he has to come out of his turret form and perform a slightly longer reload animation
>>341914239
>>Reaper
Can't pick up health kits while wraith walking.
nah, then he'll just sit on top of one in wraith and wait for the animation to end before he picks it up
how about this
>health back from "souls" doubled
>cannot pick up any medikits and cannot be healed by supports (lucios, zenyatta's, and mercy's ults still work)
>>341910427
Save your ult in anticipation for it. If they all switched they wont have ults themselves.
All the characters are pretty balanced now.
I still think Mei is a zero-risk character, but other than her I can't think of anyone that feels stronger than they should be.
>>341916872
Pharah is an underrated qt. Why doesn't she have more fanart?
>>341912310
>balanced
>hook -> one-shot
>ult that does a ton of damage and knocks charging Reinhardts off the map
>>341918253
She has some, but she's not obvious waifubait like D.Va so...
I feel like Roadhog is a little on the strong side, along with tracer. Perhaps a missed hook means a longer cd or a little bit of damage taken off his right click.
Tracer could have a small nerf of about 1 more second cd on her blinks
Zen could use 50 more health, or have his 100 shields converted into armor
Winstons jump could have another 2 seconds or so of a CD
Soldier 76 could use a little more spread with his first bullets, he's too accurate at long range right now
Junkrat tire could have a little more health, like 120
Mercy ult could take a little while longer to charge up
Reinhardt should have a small movement speed penalty while swinging, like 15 or 10%
Dva could have less of a movement speed penalty and her ult should be able to penetrate small objects or have a shorter countdown
>>341918906
Outside of those two things hes more or less useless, the problem is bringing in something else for him to do outside of just brainlessly hooking anything that moves on reaction.
For those of you on the PS4, how long are your queue times. I'm waiting like 3 minutes on average before a match and I'm like level 11. The odd thing is my queue times are close to instant in a group, anyone know whats going on?
Bastion
>add recoil to turret
>make turret-to-robot instantaneous
D.Va
>make her mech gun an actual machine gun instead of a pea shooter
>reduce out-of-mech health by 25
Pharah
>add 50 health
>reduce cooldown on E
>increase forward momentum and reduce player damage when rocket jumping
Widowmaker
>drastically reduce or better yet remove entirely cooldown on grapple
>limit ult to player only
Reinhardt
>instead of rebalancing, add something where the player can judge melee distance since monitors have no depth perception
Mei
>make wall semi-transparent for allies
Torbjorn
>upgrading and repairing sentry requires scrap
>damage to turret is reduced 3/4 before going online
Tracer
>add trajectory reticule to ult
>>341919090
>or have his 100 shields converted into armor
I dunno, I dislike the idea of a healer that can't self-heal in any way.
>>341918906
Roadhog's ult kind of sucks though thanks to the recoil factor. Which makes sense since he's so OP otherwise.
>>341919090
>Winstons jump could have another 2 seconds or so of a CD
People would drop Winston in favor of D.Va, you'd kill his use like that.
>Soldier 76 could use a little more spread with his first bullets, he's too accurate at long range right now
So is McReeee, in comparison 76 is hardly a problem.
>Mercy ult could take a little while longer to charge up
Maybe, but her ult is basically the only worthwhile thing about her.
And she's already losing to Lúcio as a healer.
>>341917621
Roll into flashbang is becoming needed so much more now that people are getting better at keeping their distance. The extra distance you get can really take people by surprise.
>People who put down sprays after their PotG
Is there anything more cringey?
>>341906410
>1 second to 5 seconds
>changing machine gun to 100
>nerfing zenyetta at all
What in the ever living fuck am I reading?
>>341920068
Symmetra
>increase shield from 25 to 40
>add cooldown/queue to shield
>Increase sentry HP from 1 to 30
Winston
>Decrease barrier cooldown
>Make his weapon not suck
>Make it so he doesn't die instantaneously to Bastion when using his ult
Mercy
>Make her target follow track through objects
>Ult is interrupted on death
>>341910848
Yeah and in early betas, you used to have to wait until the end of the animation for the revive to happen instead of instantly
No idea why it was changed
>>341920617
Some of the sprays were basically made for that purpose, honestly.
>>341920617
>Always get D.Va's on my team that emote after using self destruct every time, only to get nobody and die almost immediately
>>341916218
>HIS HOOK HAS NO RANGE
>IM TOO AUTISTIC TO GO INTO TRAINING MODE AND ACTUALLY FIND OUT THE HOOKS RANGE
k thanks for letting us know anon
>>341921434
I think you may have mis-understood my point entirely. I am not saying it has no maximum reach I am saying that it seems to change constantly whenever it suits the hook.
I think I am more that far enough out of his range, I think I am more than pulled back away from a ledge, neither ever seem to be enough. Because the hook is pure bullshit.
Its fucking bizarre to me that people would get enraged by being flashbanged then fanned when theres next to nothing they could do once the flash hit but are perfectly fine with being hooked then one shot and there being nothing they can do. Fuck the McCree needed to be close range for his stupid combo to work the way the maps are set up in Overwatch if you can see a Roadhog theres a good chance your in hook distance.
So you better nip back behind that wall right? Too fucking slow its gone through the wall you were doomed as soon as you stepped out.
>>341921434
>Hog can one shot all of those characters, think your out of range? You never ever know when your out of range because there seems to be no set ruleset when it comes to the hook.
More like because the lack of depth perception on 2D displays makes judging distance impossible in an FPS. Same issue with Reinhardt's main and why melee always sucks fucking ass in first person.
>>341912310
he needs to be fixed, but not balanced. his hook is bugged as fuck and its basically a 50/50 after you manage to hook someone if the player doesnt bug out and get behind you.
>>341921953
Mobile so can't properly argue, but the going through the wall thing is a result of the hook's end being the only physical part of the attack. The chain can go through objects if you whip hog around fast enough, only the hook itself will ever interact with physical objects. Not arguing the "fairness" of this factor, just clarifying
>>341921953
>its gone through the wall
When that happens, it's because the hook already hit you when you were in Hog's line of sight. It just hasn't started pulling you back yet, and you moved behind cover after the fact.
The hook doesn't literally go through walls.
Just go into training mode, anon.
>>341920617
How about taunting during what you KNOW will be play of the game?
It wasn't impressive, it really wasn't, but it made the enemy team mad as fuck, they even won and they were mad.
>>341922590
>>341922719
So can you not understand just how frustrating that is when your playing Tracer and from your end you never got hit by the hook at all because you blinked?
tfw they overnerfed McCree and his right click is useless compared to two shots of left click.
>>341924009
I understand the frustration, but that doesn't justify a nerf. Lag is a thing everyone has to deal with in some way or another.
The same logic used to call for a Hog nerf because of this could be applied to nerfing any hitscan weapon.
>>341924258
Theres not a one hit kill waiting at the other end of other hitscan weapons though.
i'm not saying the hook should not be a one hit kill, that should stay, what I would suggest is give him something else and increase the cooldown on hook. Right now most Roadhogs can be relied upon to kill people every 7 seconds and do nothing of note outside of that. Apart from get shot.
So you have something thats frustrating for people to play against, can't really tank, and outside of his primary skill is pretty useless. Thats not a nerf thats needed its a reworking.
>>341923383
>gets a shitty 2k
>waste time emoting
I'm upset you thought this was worthy of emoting and I'm upset there was no better play in the game. I'm also pretty upset your tire somehow survived despite going just straight at the enemy for 10 seconds.
>>341924846
We were getting completely steamrolled at the time, holding off two or three people just at the end didn't do anything in the end.
You've got to laugh, haven't you?
>>341909041
>faggot name
>plays reaper
figures
>>341924574
>Theres not a one hit kill waiting at the other end of other hitscan weapons though
Widowmaker doesn't ring a bell? Shit, widowmaker can get paired with Mercy and she becomes infinitely more frustrating to play against. Yet frustrating does not mean OP.
>So you have something thats frustrating for people to play against, can't really tank, and outside of his primary skill is pretty useless.
I don't know what kind of shit Hogs you've been seeing, but he's quite good at tanking in pretty much any situation. He's not Reinhardt whose sole job is to tank, but the fear of getting hooked + his health recovery still make him a pretty beefy and intimidating hero to play against. He has a right click that is useful for when your hook is on cooldown, he's far from useless.
He doesn't need any reworking, if anything he's one of the more balanced characters in the game. He's a huge target with zero mobility.
Compare him to someone like Mei who's a zero-risk character. Shit, Mei can fuck him up in fact.
>>341907790
>blizzard fails to make a balanced game
>so i balanced it for them
ahaha eat jizz you 18 year old kid.
>>341907231
>Defending
>Gates opening
>Right before it does I shoot a stream of mercy pistol at it.
>Kill a Tracer instantly
>50 damage
>cutting mercys pistol damage in half
>genji
Hopefully you're whole post is trolling and not just the genji nerf.
you're retarded
>>341906410
The only people I kill when I play Bastion are the same people over & over & over again
The same retards who run through the same doorway & die to my turret at least 3 times.
I rarely even need to reposition with certain players
That should tell you all you need to know
>>341906410
>Widowmaker
>Headshots deal 300 damage while bodyshots only deal 50 and reaload time is increased from 1 second to 5
I FOUND THE SHITTER WHO KEEPS GETTING DROPPED BY WIDOWMAKERS EVERYBODY
LET'S ALL POINT AND LAUGH AT THE RETARD
LMAO AT YOUR FAGGOT LIFE BITCH
>>341906410
Better:
>Mercy: Revives at a set health cap, while squishies will be unaffected, heroes like Roadhog and Reinhardt will only come back with 300 health, invincibility period will be longer to compensate. Alternatively, massively slow down Mercy's ult charge rate to justify her being able to bring back everyone at full health. Buffwise, increase pistol damage to 30-35 or so
>Torbjorn: Cannot aim very far upwards unless enemy is hovering slightly above it/on top of it, given a 50% damage taken reduction up top to avoid it being too easy to kill it. Alternatively, auto aim radius is 360 degrees as usual, but the length of said radius is reduced, to allow people to peek out and fire away without having to be a map's distance away
>Lucio: Radius of heal decreased somewhat, alternatively cooldown on amp increased by 5-6 seconds
>Mei: Cryostasis can no longer contest a point. Alternatively, it heals for 100 health less at full use. OR, it is given a health meter, and Mei is auto-ejected if she takes 150 damage (this is probably a good bit too low)
I feel like my list here is too nerf heavy but I'm dumb and find it harder to think of buffs
>>341925337
>fighting Mei as Roadhog
Absolutely hellish. I've either been playing with the luckiest fuckers on the planet or some CAREER Meis.
Any time I try to throw that hook out, even if they're not looking at me, it clonks off either a wall of ice or the block she's healing herself in. And these things never seemed to be on cooldown, their timing was fucking immaculate.
>>341925337
Thats one of the points I've been trying to make I see shit Hogs in every single solo queue game I play. Almost all of them are indeed terrible but because of everything that makes Hog, Hog its still possible to kill people with the flow chart.
Mei is comparatively rare so what makes her so irritating and zero-risk becomes less apparent because I never have to deal with it every single last game that I play. The only time I am ever free of pubstar Roadhog is when I play with at least 4 of my friends we go up against similar pre-mades.
>>341906410
What determines the Potg now?
The other day I was doing amazing, pretty much single handedly captured the point by myself as tracer, while fighting everyone off for itNot that I'm amazing, they were shit. They would come out the door one after the other, instead of just waiting, and grouping up
But when the round ended, some pharah got potg where she killed two people with her Q and then suicided.
Give Mei a 25% speed boost when running on her ice.
>>341925861
Theres a whole list of things that take priority when it comes to POTG, like if you were on the point, if environmental kills are involved, what others did during the game and if they were on the point or did environmentals.
I got a team wipe with a fucking tire once and the POTG went to a Reaper because he killed 4 on the point itself.
>>341926045
>hyper-speed potatoes
Do you want no one to have any fun, ever?
I don't want to imagine a world where Mei gets to the point faster than anyone else, that's a nightmare.
>>341920068
>Torbjorn
>upgrading and repairing sentry requires scrap
>damage to turret is reduced 3/4 before going online
holy shit
this fucking moron doesn't know how to deal with torbjorn
like
get good shit head
Reduce headshot damage the retarded spread on character like roadhog, tracer and bastion abuse this
That'd improve the game about 90%
>playing overwatch
>enemy team takes the first control point
>they are absolutely raping us
>my team counter picks
>I got bastion
>we are holding them off in the last room
>somehow hold them off for five minutes straight
>clock is ticking down
>we are about to win
>suddenly a DVA charged in
>touches the point before the game is over
>forces us to overtime
>whatever we just kill her
>overtime starts to tick down
>another DVA comes charging in
>we cant kill her before she reaches the control point
>overtime is refreshed
>ANOTHER DVA COMES IN
>the entire enemy team switched to DVA to extend overtime
>they are making the game last forever
>two team mates switch to mei
>able to build a wall after a few minutes of this
>finally win
fuck DVA
>>341926045
Yes. YES. I would gladly take a longer cooldown on Ice Block or wall if I could do Ice Man.
I already do that when I play Mei but at least now I would go a little faster.
>>341926404
And from the butthurt, this guy only plays torbjorn.
>>341925814
I pretty much only play premade with my friends so I see Mei in pretty much every defense team.
You can't just judge a character based on their performance vs. pubshitters.
Even if a shit Hog manages to get a hook kill with some consistency, Hook kills aren't Hog's only job.
Any brainless D.Va player can ult into a CP and get the usual 3 kills, this does not mean D.Va is OP.
Any brainless Junkrat can lob bombs all over the place and get lucky kills, plus blow up the tire among a payload, this also doesn't make Junkrat OP.
Some characters are easier to pick up than others. But whether a character is OP or not must be judged from the skill ceiling, not from the base point.
Symmetra is usually regarded as a shit character and yet experienced players can make her REALLY annoying with clever turret positioning. IIRC a team of a couple of Symmetras and some other specific heroes can pretty much lock down Volskaya's first CP entirely.
>tfw no character in Overwatch who wears pantyhose
Does anyone know the name of the model that has hair like zarya?
>>341917383
A Rocketman style jetpack would be lighter.
>>341920068
Dont make video games anon, ever
>>341926651
>Mercy
>>341926510
This reminds me of one time when I was on a full premade and we all picked D.Va attacking on Hanamura.
Easiest game we've ever won.
>>341926651
Mercy does, kind of. They look like pantyhose though they probably aren't.
>>341926597
nice projection of your insecurities shit head
it's not my fault you're a paste eating retard who doesn't know how to deal with a static aim bot lmao
Take Tracer out of Overwatch and put her in a good game.
The rest can burn.
>>341926852
Widowmaker stop posting and just go kidnap her so you have someone to cuddle with during the night.
>Pharah
Reduce her rocket launcher viewmodel size
up splash damage by 5-10 points so a direct and a near direct splash can actually kill someone.
These are the only changes keeping her from perfection.
>>341912310
>balanced
>one shots any hooked hero below 300 hp
>there will never be a skin that shows D. Va's, Mercy's or Widowmaker's bare feet or soles
>>341927120
She's already strong enough, man. I say this as a Pharah main. If she was literally Soldier I would've agreed but she has much more airtime than Soldier did. There's not much justification for more splash damage when you have more time to aim.
>>341925861
I've had a few PotG where basically all I did was kill a person who was starting their ult (Pharah, Reaper) and then maybe get another token kill or something. Yeah, it was a useful thing to do, but it makes for a boring PotG.
>>341926620
Im not saying its OP and in need of a nerf, I want it to be fucking fixed. I want the hero itself to actually work better than he does right now.
Does that make sense? From a playing Roadhog p.o.v. and playing against him p.o.v.
Like I said before I agree completely about bad Junkrats and D.Va's but I don't see those every single game. I have to deal with Roadhog constantly and as such his failings become far more apparent.
>>341927120
Increase Rocket self damage by 100% because there is next to nothing dissuading her from following anyone she likes into enclosed areas and firing directly at the walls and floor.
>>341924846
>2
Can you count?
>>341906410
>Can only revive 3 players maximum
fuck off
I think Mei should be removed from the game. I think the same for Hanzo, but Mei just seems to survivable. Shit, I'd be happy with her being lowered to 200 health.
On some maps depending on where Torb puts his turret (on defence) there is no way to counter it.
You may get close enough to blow it up, but then one of his team mates will kill you - and he will just rebuild the turret.
I'm talking about solo queue. Not in a 6 person group all on Teamspeak who can co-ordinate a measured strike.
After painstakingly switching characters and planning how to blow his turret up he shouldn't be able to rebuild it straight away.
>Yeah but me and my friends on ts always manage to counter his turret
>Git gud
Read above.
>Play with friends
I do they are not always around though.
>>341927756
>Im not saying its OP and in need of a nerf, I want it to be fucking fixed. I want the hero itself to actually work better than he does right now.
Weren't you the one talking about how you can't understand the hook's range?
> I agree completely about bad Junkrats and D.Va's but I don't see those every single game. I have to deal with Roadhog constantly and as such his failings become far more apparent.
What world do you live in? I can't play a single game without someone picking D.Va, and Junkrat is really common because of how easy he is to play. You can't just get angry about a character because you see him constantly, that's up to the players.
Again, I've already explained my reasoning why Hog is fine the way he is. Hooks aren't the entire point of his character, you don't need to rework a character just because he's not difficult to pick up. His ult for example can be quite deadly but pubshitters can never use it to any worthwhile effect. They push people away and that's it. That doesn't mean it needs a buff, or that it needs to be reworked.
Best husbando, coming through.
>>341928462
>but Mei just seems to survivable. Shit, I'd be happy with her being lowered to 200 health.
>>341927694
exactly what he said.
>>341928720
10/10 would submit to
>>341928462
>being so bad you lose to mei
I hope you learned your lesson.
>>341928506
>pick pharah
>shoot missile
>kaboom
>team moves in
So hard.
>>341927228
pic
>>341927003
that's gay
>>341928720
>not posting mercy with bulge
>posting shit tier tracer
>>341928462
If Mei and Hanzo didn't exist I don't think the game would be hurt by it.
You'd get rid of one of the entirely too many stuns, you'd get rid of wild-fired headshots from across the map, you'd remove an option for complete shitters who don't know what "attack" means (this goes for Widowmaker as well, but she's mildly useful sometimes), and there'd be less FUCKING BORING play of the games where some japanese bastard yells very loudly and shoots dragons across the point or cart.
It's like a free coupon for one play of the game, every time.
>>341928720
>Helden sterben nie
>>341929109
hnnnnnnnnnng
>>341928720
>>341927746
I can't tell you how many times Ive directed a 200hp class then splashed them for 79-75 damage with a near direct, it feels like you're supposed to be able to kill people with a direct and a splash since max splash is 80, but it never seems to hit for that much given how sharply splash falls off, an extra few points would make up for this.
>>341928905
>Turret behind wall (Anubis)
>Fly in
>Destroy turret
>Die
>He rebuilds it
>Fly in
>Get sniped
>JUSTICE RAI- aarrrghh
Like I said. Only will work if you are playing pre-made.
Otherwise Torb wrecks people.
>>341929294
whoops, was meant for
>>341927706
>>341928720
I've never noticed those huge ass arm things until now.
Are they handles so Winston can hold her arms whilst he fucks her from behind?
>>341929109
>shad
>>341929498
Its aerodynamic luv.
>>341919090
Roadhog isn't as good as the crappy players on this general make him out to be. Yeah his combo is great but in higher level play he's just a free walking ult builder for the enemy team. I just fire at him all day and get free ult for it. Its okay to pressure a Roadhog yet not enough people do it. He's in a good spot right now.
>>341929618
But she phases through space anon
>>341924846
>taunt is so effective it makes people on 4chan mad
good job, Junkrat
>>341906410
>nerfs zenyatta
>>341906410
Keep crying faggot.
>>341929434
Only fly in when you have a team pushing beneath you. Usually no matter where the turret is you can get to it eventually. If people are blocking your way just kill a few before hitting up the turret. She's one of the strongest characters in the game right now.
>>341929434
Anubis turret behind the wall is really easy to blow up. You can blow it up as Junkrat through the left side, both by lobbing bombs over the wall or by taking the actual left path.
Any of those brainless Hanzo players can ult on that corner and usually take out all the faggots camping there and then move in and blow the thing up easily.
Pharah can keep her distance on the right side and fuck it up.
You can't just dismiss those things because >get sniped
This comes with any team game. A team with some cohesion, a simple Widowmaker supporting Torb will obviously fare better than an attacking team of complete idiots.
>>341929109
That's nice toobut currently I'm in a "fuckin sissy Tracer" mood, not a get pegged by Mercy mood.
>>341929740
Its time actually but you still gotta go fast.
>>341906410
>Can only revive 3 players maximum as well as reduced pistol damage from 50 to 25
Are you fucking autistic?
>>341929434
Blow the widowmaker off her perch. Its really easy to get at a widow on the last point on Anubis as Pharah.
>>341919284
>Outside of instantly killing someone that isn't a tank instantly, he's useless
I honestly always found him more broken than Mcree ever was
Holy fuck anon
This is
This is retardedafojpasgsgiewngsdojnxionsj n
>>341930012
Why dont you just get pegged by mercy while you fuck tracers ass?
>>341930012
>Not being ingetting roughly fucked in the ass and came inside of repeatedly by Tracer mode
>>341928772
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks it. 250 is just a little too high.
>>341928878
>pic related
I once heard the phrase "It's like the Pyro on steroids" and it's justified.
>>341927228
Footfags deserve death
>>341929774
I hadn't even thought of it that way. I love it even more now.
>>341928772
>nerfing shit-tier characters
Why not nerf Zenyatta while you're at it.
>>341930210
this nigga gets it.
>Tracer's hair was originally black, rather than brown. This can be seen in her concept art
>>341930354
>spotted the mei player
>d-dont nerf me
>>341930012
We /headcanon/ now?
>Zarya secretly wishes she could be more dainty and feminine
>Lacks the knowledge or confidence to pull it off
>Also crush on scruffy American cowboy
I know, /autism/
>>341927228
truly the darkest timeline
>>341929294
I don't think you're supposed to.
Pharah can't be a major powerhouse, she has very unique mobility. Having the fall off not being as sharp would be arguably welcome, but I honestly think that's about it. Her air superiority is already really strong by itself, she basically has an entire area of movement that's entirely hers.
She shuts down Dorado on both attack and defense SO HARD it's not even funny.
>>341930161
There's a small amount of time after the hook ends and before his shot where you can do stuff like Reaper shift and lucio rmb and whatnot to prevent dying. Also hooks barely ever pull your target directly in front of you and sometimes they pull to your side or even behind you so it requires a bit of aiming, unlike Mcree where you stun someone and they can't do fucking shit.
>>341927228
hnnng i need this so bad.
while they're at it need additional skins that give them a " bulge"
>>341930493
>If you don't want a character nerfed you must play them
maybe it's because I'm not enough of a shitter to lose to them and don't want to see them nerfed because shitters can't deal with it
>BLIZZARD PLEASE NERF TORBJORN AND BASTION I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH STATIONARY TARGETS WAAAH
>>341930265
>Footfags deserve death
>>341906410
yea I can confirm you play one meme main character and are shit at everything else
zenyatta is fine
bastion is fine, he's beyond easy to kill, just like torbjorn's turrets
i'm guessing you try to play pharah and get pissed when you get btfo trying to be a meme kite flying above everyone spamming rockets into nothing while your team struggles on offense to push with no damage
>>341930567
If the combo is done correctly theres no chance to escape whatsoever.
If you do manage to escape its because the Hog fucked up his M1.
>>341930690
stop acting all elitist.
you must be so cool at parties.
>>341930567
>Mercy is ten feet away from me, straight line from her to me
>better safe than sorry, hook her over
>she ends up two feet to my left
>she wasn't moving at all before the hook
>>341930567
>There's a small amount of time after the hook ends and before his shot where you can do stuff like
If the gods of netcoding are in your favor, yes
>Reaper shift
See above
>lucio rmb
The push doesn't teleport someone back instantly, the shotgun blast will kill you regardless
I don't know if you're aware, but Roadhog has an insane animation cancel combos that simply does not leave you a window for reaction unless he fucks up and/or the netcoding smiles upon you and lags the game in your favor.
>>341927228
I would spend $50 trying to get a swimsuit DVA when she's out of the robot if she had bare feet
>>341930832
Yeah and like I said, his hook is fucking horrible and rarely ever puts the person you hooked right in your face so it at least takes a bit of aiming on the part of the roadhog, and of course for the initial hook.
Mcree is just brainless.
>>341930869
>>341930838
Nice argument.
Stay bad.
>>341931045
>aiming on the part of the roadhog, and of course for the initial hook.
HO HO HO HE HE HE HE
>>341927228
>There's only 1 skin that shows off bare feet
>Its poo in loo
>>341906410
What were blizzard's reasons for infinite ammo?
>>341931078
you provided nothing to argue about.
>>341930690
>>341930690
>>BLIZZARD PLEASE NERF TORBJORN AND BASTION I DON'T KNOW HOW TO DEAL WITH STATIONARY TARGETS WAAAH
no one said anything about that. we were talking about nerfing meis hp by -50
ok let's just do this from left to right
>genji
reduced distance on dash
cooldown reduced to 5 seconds but is no longer refreshed on kill
>phara
splash damage increased to 60
ultimate now does 80% of the damage over 50% of the duration
>solider
damage falloff removed
>bastion
ult builds 25% slower
>hanzo
arrow hitbox size reduced
ultimate travels 50% faster
>torbjorn
can now place 2 turrets at once
lock on range reduced from 40 meters to 30
molten core can only be used on 1 turret, and must target one of your turrets to activate
molten core does not heal the turret or increase its max health, it now instead converts all of its current health to armored health
>widowmaker
poison mine does not alert widowmaker if it is destroyed (as opposed to being triggered)
>d.va
mech guns accuracy greatly increased
ultimate doesn't get blocked by standing behind small objects
ultimate detonates faster but the explosion radius is reduced
>reinhardt
shield recharge delay increased by half a second
>roadhog
fix hook interaction so that you don't get stupid shit like people ending up behind you
>lucio
health reduced to 150
>mercy
ult takes twice as long to charge
can now overheal like tf2 medic
>symmetra
enemy team doen't instantly know when you have a teleporter
>zenyatta
enemies inside your transcendence radius get orb of discord effect
>>341931078
SWIGGITY SWOOTY
>>341931270
Every character should have truly infinite ammo so no reloading
that means fan the hammer keeps firing as long as you hold it
>>341931078
spotted the rager
>>341906410
kill yourself my man
>Play Zenyatta on Numba
>Die from a stray Roadhog bullet
Ayyy
>>341931306
>ultimate travels 50% faster
Are you autistic?
>>341931290
Nerfing Mei's hp because you are too stupid to use the counterplay at your disposal to beat her.
>>341931078
Shitty korean player, maybe if he stopped trying to snipe someone who was a couple feet away then that swiggity wouldn't have mattered.
>>341931558
great post
>>341931561
>counterplay
>main mercy and luc.
yeah lemme get right on that.
>>341931607
The guy is obviously cracking up while attempting to escape incoming Lucio dick.
>>341907481
whats the difference between hp and armor?
>>341930869
she hit a pebble on the ground, sorry
jesus fucking Christ, I'm fucking done being Winston
I'm ALWAYS 100% the only person every trying to push on ATTACK missions, I'm so fucking sick of it always being 1-on-4 and my fucking retarded teammates are too fucking stupid to realize I'm distracting the opposition
>>341931656
>Outrange her
>Play Pharah/Junkrat/Reaper/McMeme
>Don't engage her in a 1v1
Mei only stomps shitters that's why she's rarely picked in competitive and boasts one of the lowest winrates
>>341930545
Whats the difference really in having the falloff not be as sharp and 5 extra points of splash damage which spreads out the falloff more? they both achieve the same thing, making its so pharah can kill with a direct and a near direct splash effectively. Which is something you say she shouldn't do, you're kinda all over really.
>>341931889
I want to start playing Winston but I'm afraid I'll keep feeling the "need" to play him in order to win.
I don't want to lose the fun, you know?
