>gorgeous graphics
>world feels rich and alive
>memorable sidequests and main story
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
And you still talk shit about the gameplay?
Time to get off your high horse. This isn't a Souls game. The gameplay serves the game just fine and you know it.
>>341903706
I wish everyone put the dedication and effort into their games that TW3 has put into it.
If they put even half the effort the industry would be pretty amazing.
>>341903920
Agreed. Just started Blood and Wine, and I can already tell that this is going to be one of my favourite games of 2016.
The last patch added level scaling. The game is officially trash now.
bb-bb-but the combat is so c-c-lunky compared to blood souls
a-a-nd skyrim has s-s-ssometimes more players on steam online than w-w-itcher 3
> Find Ciri
> Find Yen
> Find Baron's wife and kid
> Find Triss
> Find Dandelion
> Find the Doppler
I love this game, but the first main quests are so boring.
>varied playstyle
>>341904560
>level scaling is a bad thing now?
Pretty sure you can turn it off if you dont like it
>>341903706
A lot of the sidequests in Bloodwine are pretty damn funny. Like the statue missing balls or the one where Geralt meets the red tape.
>>341904771
Doesn't matter, game balance is ruined.
>>341904970
Nice ancient meme dip, these are the people defending this game. I bet you applauded when CDPR consolized the interface in the last patch as well.
>>341903706
>gorgeous graphics
No
>memorable sidequests and main story
No
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyles
No
>>341905147
Debate Club Champion 2013 right here
>>341905142
>CPDR adds OPTIONAL content
game is ruined now
logic.
>>341903706
>$0.35 has been deposited into your account by CDProjektRed
>>341904757
>not loving being a fantasy Columbo
>>341904757
>Barons quests were boring
Get fucked.
The problem is that it is way too easy. I've tried a multitude of builds during my playthrough, which was on Deathmarch. I didn't have any issues at any point.
There is simply zero challenge.
>>341905147
it's nice how you can just look at facts, say 'no', and the facts aren't true anymore
i guess that's why climate change and evolution aren't real
>>341905346
They're pivoting to consolefags, how else would you explain the tranny-centric DLC? Shit there's even a crossdresser in the main game.
>>341903706
maybe if the combat consisted of more than
10 Quen
20 Roll to back
30 Attack
40 Evade
Goto 10
I would be impressed.
>>341903706
>this thread again(you)
>>341904757
Novigrad was the best part in witcher 3.
Blood and Wine and the countryside expansion to Dying Light are the best modern add-ons. This is how it's done people. I wish GTAV had proper add-ons instead of boring multiplayer trash
>>341905603
fucking hell, 1 tranny ingame?
brb uninstalling
>>341905603
back to your containment board, kid, nothing polsonell
>>341903706
It's true, the gameplay is serviceable.
However, I prefer my games to be gameplay first, story second.
Open the option and turn off level scaling.
>>341905692
>No San Fierro or Las Venturas
>Just more SHIT for an MP worse than GTA IV after sending C&D's to people who could have made V MP actually good out of their basement for free like they did with SA
>>341905603
>$0.01 have been deposited to your Uplay account
>>341904757
it's literally so fucking shit, just finish Baron's quest, end to main menu, start new save and play through Heart of Stone's main quests. Then do the same for Blood and Wine.
Literally everything else is fucking shit. Like yeah, the side quests are better than the side quests in every other fucking game, but basically only because the side quests are actually voice acted, the core mechanics are still identical.
>>341905539
I never played the game from this viewpoint. I actually kinda enjoyed it not being much of a challenge because I enjoy the narrative and I'm always wanting to get on with the story compared to a game like oblivion or skyrim where I didn't really care so much about the story and I just wanted to get cool swords, armour and kill monsters in caves etc
But the gameplay is still shit.
>>341903706
>varied gameplay
>quen
>mash light attack
wow
>>341905892
Why would they put it in the game if it wasn't the intended way to play?
>>341906040
autism
>>341903706
Gameplay is literally the most important part of the game.
That being said the gameplay isnt horrendous and its kind of a given that RPG's have mediocre gameplay.
>>341903706
>gorgeous graphics
Not as good as it should have been, but okay.
>world feels rich and alive
I will say that the main cities looks great and actually alive, but the world map itself is copypasted to hell and back.
>memorable sidequests and main story
I honestly done multiple sidequests and I cant remember a single one right now. The main story is easy to remember because its literally just "look for Ciri"
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
I just put everything points on fast attacks, equip strenght mutagens, upgraded Quen and I never had problem with any enemy.
I enjoyed the game but its extremely overrated around here.
>>341906158
NOT AN ARGUMENT
>>341906279
Nice name, fag
>>341906040
Maybe people asked for it so they added it for people who wanted it?
I don't get it, gamers are so jaded from being fucked by games in the past that when one actually listens to things some people ask for and adds an option for them free they become confused and angry.
>>341905608
every single book ever made sucks
it's just
>move your eyes to read the black text on the white/gray paper
get it together, bookfags
>>341906279
>the world map itself is copypasted to hell and back
but it isn't
>>341904584
BloodSouls has the clunkiest combat Ive ever played. Nothing is fluid in that game, hell Castlevania had better combat.
>>341906279
I haven't used Quen in like twenty levels
>>341906279
actually, you are wrong with the
> but the world map itself is copypasted to hell and back.
the world map is VERY detailed and handmade. just go to some random location and check those roads, on which carts and horses have been going. every rock is different size, roads twist and are very realistic.
some youtuber actually made video of him walking around witcher world for 30mins and explaining how well made the world is
>>341905571
you came first by saying etablishing on your own those facts, therefore you need to argue first.
HOLY FUCK GERALT IS A FUCKING MADMAN
HE TOTALLY TOOK GAME OF THE YEAR
ABSOLUTE MADMAN
>>341906304
No, he's saying you have autism. And you do.
>>341906820
NOT AN ARGUMENT NOT AN ARGUMENT
I don't think so OP.
I respect the studio, but I think they miss the mark on that one. And it has to be said and discussed. How do you expect the studio to get better if we don't discuss what we thought didn't work (not that others have to agree, but at least they can take the decisions with better perspective).
Twice I rebounded on that game, and now that I've put a bit more thought into, I think the game systems in place detract from one another; there are conflicting designs at works, and it diminishes the game in the end. And that's before mentioning issues of game play and narrative as they intertwine.
>>341906481
It's a decent analogy but what anon is trying to say is that he wants to read Fahrenheit 451 and the Witcher 3 feels more like a See Spot Run
>>341907049
>>341906279
>>341906772
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z5BsJ1TRMh8
>>341907240
Just because I want a reason to post this
>>341907701
Thanks, really interesting.
>>341906520
You're a legitimate retard
This board never gets better. I'm going back to playing Total War: Warhammer. I wish there were more than 4 factions.
They fucked up the potions with the strong alcohol bullshit. If they want to auto refill potions have them come from the actual ingredients. Otherwise like twenty five percent of the game is thrown out of the window.
Maybe I'm the only person who likes to harvest shit to craft stuff.
>>341906034
Dark souls.
>Parry, stab, roll, repeat
>>341908306
Me too. I hope they announce something soon.
Enjoying B&W for now though.
>>341907191
thisI think witcher 1 had the best combat since it was more multifaceted and you had to think a little more regarding prep time. I played on hard mode though
>>341905939
>its literally so fucking shit
if this is how you express yourself you dont have the right to have an opinion , kill yourself
>>341907240
Yeah, nah fuck you.
Just look at the contrast between the pseudo-realistic world and then the player economy and what it entails for loot and item creation. There's a complete disconnect between the two.
Friend of mine jokingly refers to this as "post-scarcity medievalism". And that's a real problem. You have too much of everything in a world that's supposed to be be in crisis, you can sell basically anything whether it makes sense or not. There's too much loot and rotation of gear, in order to accommodate the leveling I gather. Which makes sense from a purely systemic point. The problem is that the system does not mesh all that well with the narrative that supposedly informs it.
There's the problem of density of event spreads to keep things interesting, repetition and verisimilitude.
There's the UI. And I'll just leave at that. The UI. Across all games, that clearly hasn't been CDPR's forte and I think they really could use someone with a background in cognitive psychology.
The combat itself could get a part all its own, but it's as if you cared, isn't it?
>>341908717
Did you never have to go buy ingredients for crafting whatever armor you chose? I did. I feel like it would have been an awful lot of berrypicking to have a constantly deflating resource pool making you have to search out random individual ingredients.
Even something subtle like a hunger/thirst mechanic would make economy pretty rough I think.
>>341905473
I don't think Columbo follows a colored line from one checkpoint to another.
>>341908719
>dark souls
>light attack
>heavy attack
>roll
>parry
>riposte
>backstab
>block
>countless magic
>handful of pyromancy
>bows and arrows
>countless movesets for different weapons
>witcher 3
>quen
>light attack
>>341909085
>they really could use someone with a background in cognitive psychology
>>341909276
can you name a game where investigative segments didn't use some sort of gimmick to get people to go from point A to point B? Even LA Noire does this, and it's basically Detective: the video game
>>341903706
I will always remember this game as the overrated game with mediocre gameplay. So bad, in fact, I had to uninstall sometime after the Bloody Baron quest line.
If only they had put as much effort into the gameplay as they did with everything else.
>>341909314
don't be an autist. 95% of people who played DaS just roll and smash either light or heavy attack then roll again, an maybe drink a flask or 2. The other combat features are so redundant and not viable
I beat my first blind playthrough of Dark Souls w/o any attunement slots. Never casted a single spell. Never riposted or parried any enemies. Whereas in The WItcher 3 some encounters do require you to use your auxiliary attacks and combat mechanics like bombs, signs, oils, decoctions, and potions (see? i can do it too, the last 3 things are literally the same thing)
>>341904584
Wait, people say the combat is clunky in TW compared to Souls?
This game is lightyears better than Souls, but it's still average at best. The gameplay is really fucking boring.
>>341905608
Why are you listing 10s?
>>341909314
Sure if you wanna play that game:
>Brew potions
>Apply Oil
>Quen
>Strong attack
>Parry
>Light attack
>Roll
>Bombs
>Light attack
>Aard
>Arrows
>>341909376
Not him but I can't- It still doesn't excuse the shitty investigative mechanics. It just means that there aren't any good investigative mechanics. Maybe they should have focused their efforts on something else.
>it's a Souls vs Witcher thread
Wow, thanks guys!
>>341909375
Well, if you wanted some good UI work to be done in my time, that's definitely the background you were looking for.
I guess nowadays they have "UI people" which, on top of the top-down standards imposed by hardware manufacturers would explain the overall homogenization - and sometimes misuses.
Given you haven't bothered to discuss the rest, I guess there's no point in adding to it.
>>341910367
Souls games are centered around the combat/gameplay, which is what Witcher does not excell in (not saying that it is horrible), thats why soulsfags find it easy to shit on.
>>341910087
Still worse lmao
>>341910676
Neither games excel at gameplay.
I guess that's why TW is at least a little tolerable, it has some substance where as Dark Souls is a clunky, console button masher with nothing else going for it.
>>341910905
I wonder what electronic game this anonymous internet poster purchased?
>>341909376
Sam & Max
>>341911226
Pirated both, uninstalled both well before finishing. Made it a little further in TW3 though.
>>341903706
Funny thing is that the same people that shit on this is now out i full force praising the new Zelda.
>>341906520
So you've never played Skyrim? The combat is maybe a little clunky if you compare it to Bayonetta or something...
>>341904331
>>341903920
>>341903706
>game play is not important in a video game
You're what's wrong with the industry
I agree it's a great game. just wish people would stop calling it a great rpg. it's rpg elements are as weak as some Bethesda or bioware game
Daily reminder that Witcherfags thrive of haters posts.
If you anti-Witcherfags don't post this Thread would drop down the pages faster than their player count.
Stop giving them (You)'s and just enjoy as they get mad over having zero discussion of their game.
>>341912987
Avatarfags are worse then anyone else.
>>341903706
I kinda forced myself to love the game because everything is nice ...Except the combat. He moves like a fucking truck and fighting 4 wraiths in death march is harder than any boss.
>>341912623
it is
but if the game's focus is EVERYTHING else it still can turn out really good
also in my opinion TW3's gameplay was good, slightly above average, not the best certainly but good
>>341913419
This pretty much, I put in 200 hours into the game mainly because it was so detailed and I wanted just to SEE everything and I always had this hopes in the back of my head that the gameplay would get better at some point but that never really happened. Mostly the new things like the Runewright and the new Mutagen things were interesting to hear about and then you feel excited about getting it but then you do and it's nothing that special. The game just needs more balance really, it has a lot of elements but is doesn't balance them well it just seems like they threw them in there for whatever reason and just put most of the effort in graphics and story detail.
>>341904584
this so much, yes in the witcher you can drink pots use oils and whatnot but you are always doing the same fucking attacks over and over. at least souls has rolling attack, jumping attack, plunging attack, running attack, light and strong atks, weapon art light and strong attacks. fights just feel so much more varied and more options as to how you actually fight, where as the witcher has more "pre fight" options rather than actual combat options
>>341903706
The combat ruins everything, because everything leads to combat, you cant avoid it. I spent more time running around playing card games and avoiding everything because it was that clunky. Everything feels like a dps check, dodge a hit 'take 0 dmg' it still hits you just does nothing because crappy mechanics for 3 games and nothing learned.
>>341903706
>memorable side quest
Yes, I loved the one where you followed the red line
>>341911760
wow what a savvy consumer :)
>>341903706
>This isn't a Souls game
In all honesty. Souls gameplay ain't that great either.
>>341915141
What can I say, I vote with my dollar.
>>341908717
There's a mod for autists like you, makes every item single use.
>>341915429
>you have to download mods to make the game playable
I can't think of a single good game where you had to do this.
>>341915407
All you can do these days
>>341915535
>implying the alchemy system is broken
His case is an extreme. Normal people don't want to spend hours running around collecting herbs.
>The Witcher 3 looks gorgeous
When will this meme end?
It literally looks average. When you bring this up people say it's somehow justified because "THE GRASS MOVES".
So fucking what if it's open world, doesn't make it look any less average.
>>341912987
This to be honest.
>>341915535
>autistic berrypicking mods are the only thing that make a game playable
>>341915759
it looks great when it stands still
there are so many little animation glitches tho
>>341912987
>trying to rally a personal army against a video game
>>341915741
Except you get ingredients thrown at you. Why even have fucking harvestable shit everywhere with map markers and shit and you don't even have to fucking do it after the first time.
>>341903706
>WE HAVE TO FIND ____
>BUT TO FIND ____ WE NEED TO FIND ____
>GO TO _____ AND FIGHT TEN DROWNERS
>THEN COME BACK WITH ____ AND THEN WE'LL FIND ____
>BUT THEN IT'LL TURN OUT THAT FIRST WE NEED TO GO FIND _____
>[Witcher Vision]
And that concludes our overrated narrative slog for the day.
>>341905603
>pivoting to consolefags
>tranny-centric DLC
How does that even compute?
>>341909002
>kill yourself
>if this is how you express yourself you dont have the right to have an opinion
>>341918034
Everything that's wrong with the games industry, according to soft, shitty PCucks sitting in their armchairs, is because of Consoles and the people who own them.
Don't even respond. It's not worth engaging this shit-tier demographic of sex-mod neckbeards and degenerate thieves.
>>341903706
Witcher was never about gameplay (combat), faggots that complain about it never played 1 or 2 that's for sure. Witcher 3 improved it, but it's still subpar, I agree that's not what makes The Witcher 3 great.
Even the Mass Effect sequels have more variety in play style than W3.
>>341917943
I can't think of one side quest, or even a Witcher contract where any of that happens. I actually don't even remember doing a kill X amount of Y then come back to me type of quest.
>>341904331
I also started the lasted DLC. The first DLC was so great, that feels and the "party" were just great. How the fuck can DLCs be so good?
I am so hyped for Blood and Wine. The Witcher 3 is the game I ever wanted and now that I have it, I can't even believe it.
>>341909646
So you're admitting it's a shit tier RPG. Lmao
Let this game rot on /vg/ where it belongs
![comment_8hMz7ZQJLYJJBoXLIqXYWKkt07SzZuNB[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/1ZrydTO.jpg "comment 8hMz7ZQJLYJJBoXLIqXYWKkt07SzZuNB[1]")
Just finished the Blood and Wine main story. Pretty fucking neato - especially the bit where yougo to fucking fairytale land.
I'm wondering what endings everyone got? I got the ending whereeveryone dies.
>>341915759
its the best looking game ive ever laid eyes upon
you must be some jaded fuck to think that it doesnt look great
I just uninstalled TW3.
this game is so fucking boring, i'm about 2 hours in, when does it get good? I got out of the starting area.
>>341921376
ending to the dlc or main game?
>>341921583
I'm a jaded fuck to see that many other great looking games look better than an oversaturated (and overrated) game?
It doesn't even have good textures!
>>341921761
It doesn't.
It's length is it's only selling point.
>>341903706
gameplay is the key component of a video game
>>341921790
For the DLC, Blood and Wine specifically.
I got the worst ending for the main game because I fucked up a conversation option somewhere. Feels bad man.
>Want to discuss Witcher 3
>"Should I just start a Witcher 3 thread?"
>"Nah, I'll just bait some shitposters, that's sure to create good discussion"
>>341920047
I just started playing Blood and Wine myself, and holy shit, CDPR managed to capture Not-Italy perfectly, and I just LOVE the vibrant colors Toussaint has. A DLC has no right in being better than the main game.
I'd also fuck thatbird girl when she's a bird.
>>341912623
luckily TW3 has good gameplay
>>341922870
Works for monster hunter
>>341903706
Don't forget HOT AS FUCK main character.
>>341922980
To me, the main thing that makes the region look more vibrant is the lighter shade of green used for the grass and the lighter shade of blue used for the sky. It's a subtle change but it really makes a big difference.
I got more of a French Riviera vibe personally, but I think Toussaint is an amalgamation of all those wine-making regions so calling it not-Italy is a fair observation.
>>341923596
I did notice this as well, though my initial feelings felt it was more Italy, so I just ran with that for the most part. But French Riviera definitely fits very much as well.
>>341904560
TW3's leveling system is absolute garbage, though.
>>341913419
What's hard about wraiths? The only dangerous thing they can do is their stealth teleport bullshit and you can avoid that entirely by backstepping twice or rolling on reaction.
Shit, I don't even think I got hit once by the wraiths when I did the Penitent fight on death march
>gorgeous graphics
>downgrade grass to the most shitty shader
>>341905603
>Shit there's even a crossdresser in the main game.
No he isn't nigger. The elf wants to be a doublegangger. He likes the idea of changing his identity. If you do the fight club side quest he's actually the champion of his city.
Come back on. Still the same people shitposting about TW3
>>341909085
>There's the UI. And I'll just leave at that. The UI. Across all games, that clearly hasn't been CDPR's forte and I think they really could use someone with a background in cognitive psychology.
1.21 completely changed the UI and it's much better.
>>341909314
>>countless movesets for different weapons
I love Souls and this is bullshit. Weapons in souls have mostly the same moves that are mixed around for different weapons. Occasionally you'll have a single unique move for a handful of specific weapons.
>>341926714
That's fucking awful.
Honestly people who are having problems with the combat should just play an alchemy build.
Bombs become ridiculously powerful and you become near invincible once you have Enhanced potions and are able to max all the necessary skills. It sounds OP but I love it because I think it's the closest to actually feeling like Geralt would actually fight. It allows you to be graceful in combat, capitalize on the insanely good effects of potions or even decoctions should you choose, and allows you to use bombs situationally for crowd control. I love the game for everything but the combat and going alchemy made playing the game fun for me again.
Almost 200 hours into the game. Started a NG+ but I think I'm just done with this. No RPG can satisfy me like this one did. Gonna have to just wait for Cybepunk 2077.
>>341907240
>>341909375
You're the worst kind of person.
End yourself.
>>341926824
>cutscene lighting mod
>>341918289
>implying it isn't mustard race fags who shill this shitty game over actually good games like Bloodborne
>>341920047
>How the fuck can DLCs be so good?
Because it's DLC in the sense what Command & Conquer titles had. Not some shitty ten dollar horse armor.
>memorable sidequests
>>341920047
Because CDPR has amazing writers and game planners.
The writing in Hearts of Stone is better than most other independent RPGs. Blood and Wine is great but it doesn't reach as high as HoS did.
It's the only game I've been genuinely into in the last 10 years. I've spent 3 or 4 months on it, and I still haven't explored even 1/3 of it.
Each time I play, I discover something cool and new I never knew was there. And I'm still shit at mixing potions, but just finally fixed up my house and discovered the new lab.
Whole thing is so fucking cool.
>>341928463
Even that had an underlying mystery that you slowly uncovered while completing each task. No sidequest in The Witcher 3 is cut and dry, there's always a twist and something you never really expected that you find out over the course of the quest. It's even as little as completing a simple witcher contract and the guy going "sorry I don't have the money right now." It may not be profound but its something, enough to make it even a little interesting and worth the time it took to do it.
>>341928463
And? It's a series of quests specifically designed to tie together points of interest instead of just having a million distant, otherwise content void ?s strewn about the map.
>>341928463
Oh fuck off.
>>341928502
While I'm here, I've spent literally entire weekend trying to beat "The Frog Prince" and just cannot do it.
I have watched videos, I have spent hours trying (which blows bc each time you die, takes 5 mins to reload).
Does anyone have any advice for how to beat the fucking Frog Prince? Yes, I have googled it, tried everything. and I'm fucking suicidal at this point but still won't reduce difficulty bc that ruins entire thing.
What am I doing wrong? Please, this is literally making me lose sleep, any advice...
I literally have no idea why people shit talk this game. It is hands down a extremely well developed title and should be taken as an example for how dlc should actually be done, too. It's probably one of the best games I've ever played, and I have no idea how it got so much funding in the first place, the witcher 2 definitely pales in comparison.
>>341928463
>The tale of two warring vineyards fighting to buy the lands of a Count killed during the main plot; each of them secretly sabotaged in a plot that you piece together as you go along and depending on your actions can either conclude on injustice or an awesome little ending.
Fuck off nigger.
>>341928985
trap it with the yrden
>Assassinate Radovid
>No one in Novigrad notices
CDPR didn't think this through
>>341910087
nobody uses any of the shit you just listed faggot
>quen
>mash light attack
the fucking end.
it's pointless to brew.
it's pointless to make bombs.
everything other than light attack is useless.
>>341929168
>rap it with the yrden
have tried. What potions do you use, and do you just keep using Igni and different bombs and just not even get close to it with sword?
didn't have anything like this with other "boss" characters in the game.
Have gone and done a bunch of the new one, leveled up and gone back, and still just failing.
At this point, wish I knew someone IRL who had done it bc would pay a nigger $50 just to do it for me.
>>341929208
Yo what where are you?
>>341929501
visiting based Ge'els in Tir ná Lia
>>341929262
>I play like a retard, that means everyone does!
Why wouldn't you use things that help you fight better.
>>341929476
It's honestly frustrating as hell. You really just gotta get it with Yrden and poke it while it recovers from its attacks. You obviously cant get near it often because it does its overpowered body slam attack too often but if you use Yrden you can usually dodge roll in range fast enough to get a few swipes in.
As far as potions go just use the basics, Swallow, Thunderbolt. Golden Oriole if you're poisoned, and you will get poisoned.
I would never actually defend the design of this boss fight. It's not fun.
>>341929673
Ooooh wow. It's been a long time since I've played that section of the game, I completely forgot.
>>341929501
Tir ná Lia, home of the Aen Elle
>>341928985
Roll around a lot.
Literally hit it once, then start rolling until you can get close again to do it all over again.
>>341912521
Skyrim has top tier combat.
The magic system is unique and nuanced.
>>341929801
>I would never actually defend the design of this boss fight. It's not fun.
I feel like all encounters could be fixed if the enemies had more than 2/3 moves that they spam over and over again in the same exact pattern.
Yeah, I sure love spinning around like a retard in combat. White-haired protagonist who gets all the girls, is great at sword fighting and magic and oh he hunts monsters too in a suuuuper deep and gritty fantasy setting based off Tolkien Template #123553 Why does no one call it this anime-tier garbage?
>>341929801
How many times did it take you, curiously? It's like no other "boss" in game. It esp sucks to make a "boss" that hard when it blocks access to rest of the DLC until you beat, and you wait 5mins for it to reload each time you die.
Do you hit it with a lot of bombs or just Igni?
Much as I love the game, this has me suicidal.
>>341929949
The problem with this boss is all of its attacks are unfairly powerful, they all put you in that annoying stun state and they all poison you.
>>341917943
Why is Witcher vision even a thing? Why can't Silver the Hedgehog just notice footprints WITHOUT me holding down a key?
>>341903706
>isn't a Souls game
why do people talk like souls has the best combat of any game ever?
by what metric did they come to this conclusion?
>>341929871
>Literally hit it once
So no ignite or bombs? Also, which sword and which oil? I keep applying hanged man's venom, just doesn't seem to be doing it.
I know, I'm being a douche bag, but have never had a "boss fight" make me this crazy before. Took a day off from work last week just to do it, played from 8am to 7pm and could not do it.
>>341930073
Maybe two or three but that's because I make myself deliberately overpowered in nearly all of my playthroughs, and I was still getting my ass handed to me. I was being really impatient because I don't particularly enjoy the combat in this game, but once I learned to slow down and play methodically and I finally got the build I wanted I started to appreciate it more.
>>341921761
I'm 20 hours in, and I'm still waiting for the point where I actually start to have fun.
>>341903706
>Witcher 2 is on Linux
>Witcher 3 is not
>I couldn't play it on my computer anyway, only have a 560Ti
Might pick it up if I ever get a ps4 when the next generation comes out.
I hope Cyberpunk 2077 comes out on Linux.
>>341921761
>>341930306
Maybe there's a chance that its just not the game for you. If you don't fall in love with the world and its characters then there isn't much for you.
when do i get to kill that one witch that flew off with vesemirs medallion?
>>341930289
>make myself deliberately overpowered in nearly all of my playthroughs,
Ddi you use the beehive cheat with blacksmith to get monies and power up? I've kept to version 1.2 in case I need to do it, about to bc want better armor to just beat this motherfucking frog.
>>341921761
>>341930306
>>341930426
if you haven't read the books, or care about the world, or played any of the previous games, you won't care for witcher 3. It does a poor job of introducing the returning characters, which makes up 99% of the cast, even those taken over from the books. CDPR just assume that you're familiar with them and there's constant references to events from the books.
>>341929690
Because the dominant strategy of
>Quen
>light attack
is literally all you need
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1ZmTEtLs8A&feature=youtu.be
>>341921761
>when does it get good? I got out of the starting area.
Once you get into the other worlds and see just how big it is and how all the people are different, you'll probably like it more.
I didn't really get into it until I got into choosing to fuck Triss (even though she then backstabs you) and all the shit with Yennifer, definitely the only "hot" animated character I've ever seen.
Give it time and be ready for anything and take time to explore. I haven't played video since I was 14, got this after a friend recommended it and was best (or maybe worst) thing I've done n a while bc I'm obsessed with it to where I actually bought the guide book.
>>341904757
>not loving the baron
Fuck off to back to the sludge you crawled out of.
>>341922870
This board is solely made of hipster shitposters anyway
Skyrim and the Witcher 3 are the best games ever created so far and /v/ can't stop shitting on them
>>341930835
The problem isn't the world or the story at large. Hell, I could see myself getting into the series if I started with the books first. But the crux of it all is that I hate the gameplay. And since it IS a game, I do think that's a bit of an issue.
BANANA TIGAH
>>341930693
I usually level myself to the point where I can unlock the skills I want for the build and then use console commands to give myself the Witcher gear I want. I didn't do that on my first playthrough, though, and every playthrough after that has been to explore the world and experience the story again. I went through all the tedium to craft the shit I wanted and boy was it tedious. I'd rather just enjoy myself.
>>341903706
Don't waste your time anon. You've played it, you know it's an amazing game, most everyone agrees with you, everyone who shits on it are just contrarian fags who are a VERY vocal minority. Is it perfect? No, no game is, and no game will ever be loved by everyone. So enjoy your game anon, I just finished blood and wine, and I thought it was awesome.
>>341931126
Do you identify yourself with him?
>>341930835
Except that's wrong retard. If you read the books you'll be super butthurt about how different everyone is. If you haven't then you'll only care that Triss and Yen are hot and Ciri is your daughterfu.
>>341931048
I have never seen him behave like this in the five or six times I've played this section. It shouldn't even be happening. Geralt's attack should be bouncing off his axe.
>>341921376
>everyone dies
Well,you fucked up.
>>341921761
(You)
>>341928235
It's called expansion.
Felt so good killing these sluts.
It's one of the worst games I've played in years that has received the most critical praise, I honestly don't understand why.
The looting and crafting systems are one of these awful staples of modern games, and these are about as much irrelevant and useless padding as any others. Whenever I want to get healing or buffing items I have to go out into the vast and totally empty open world and collect a bunch of shit, with no effect but to waste my time. There really are no redeeming qualities to this system. Found loot is nicer, except when you get gear that is a number of levels higher than is required, even though the requirement is completely arbitrary and only serves a game function of balance.
As far as combat, it's as disappointing as everyone has said it is. I started off on the hardest difficulty and had to progressively go down to medium several hours in. You have on the one hand monsters that deal massive damage to you because they have an arbitrary red skull over their heads, even though they look and behave exactly like their non-leveled equivalents. Most of the fighting is simply tedious on higher difficulties based on arbitrarily puffing up monster stats, but what truly infuriates me is the animation and hit detection. Every fight feels like a struggle with input lag and a morasse of overly long animations on both the player's side and every NPC. The whole thing just feels exceedingly clumsy compared to any other straightforward action games like MGR, GOW or DMC.
I threw in the towel yet again when I got into a fist fight with 4 or 5 other npcs. They each dealt a third or fourth of my health bar, even though I was dealing much less to them. It just doesn't make any sense, a fist is a fist.
I'm 26, maybe I've played too many games at this point, but I just don't have any patience for gamey shit anymore.
>>341930450
The only way to kill her is to have Ciri die when she confronts the White Frost.be a shit dad
Thread begins :"I like witcher."
Ravenous bloodsouls fans: "REEEEEEEE"
TW fans: "Stop it! You just say the same thing each time!"
Thread ends.
>>341931182
>But the crux of it all is that I hate the gameplay
The fighting might not be great, but the graphics and getting to actually pick which way things go while you explore the worlds...
I actually stood up a girl for a date so I could stay home and try to fuck Jennifer for the first time.
I guess you either really get into it or don't. Also, I'd argue it's better played on PS 4 with a 65 inch 4k TV and speakers to really enjoy the graphics and story.
This game just has me hooked in a way no other has. I can't stand edge lords here who pretend they are somehow "above it." It has a few flaws, but the fun is to go into it blind (not knowing spoilers) and just see how your different choices impact what happens.
Then play over again and make different choices and see what happens.
>>341903706
What surprises me in Witcher 3 discussions is people really take the "cinematography" in the talking segments of witcher 3 for granted.
Compare most of the talking scenes in Witcher 3 to the talking scenes in modern Bioware and Telltale games and you can tell the quality isn't even close. In Witcher 3 there are a variety of different shots used in a single scene and there is good usage of blocking, spacing and depth of field. Not only is the base game good they double down on the cinematography in the expansions, every scene you have with Regis and Gaunter o Dim looked great and plenty of thought was out into scenes with them. The closest competitor CDPRD has in that department is Don't Nod with what they did with in Life is Strange.
>>341931048
>level 4
>in that section
>AI behaving in extremely odd ways
Gee I wonder if this slav is being honest.
>>341903706
eh maybe.
I'll never find out because the 1st game is so fucking terribly awful though.
>>341931725
Lower the difficulty
The combat of the game is ass and increasing the difficulty just increases frustration.
>>341903706
So a GAME with bad GAME play is good now?
>>341931984
Yeah, other story driven RPGs seem to make almost exclusive use of shot/reverse shot for dialogue, probably out of laziness. Bioware is the biggest offender.
When will /v/ admit Witcher 3 is the pinnacle of what modern AAA strives to be? It has all the hallmarks of an AAA game from quest markers, to cinematic storytelling. Witcher 3 at it's very core is a a cinematic story driven fetch quest simulator with bad gameplay and a broken combat mechanic. It is basically a AAA game done right.
Meanwhile games like Nioh and From soft games are olden games brought into the modern era. They look like modern AAA games but remove the veneer you realize that Nioh/Fomrsoft games are designed like how older games were designed to be. Gameplay focused, great art that emphasis gameplay and the difficulty level while not as bad as NES games is still present. Basically Nioh/Fomrsoft games is an old school game with a coat of modern paint and it seems a lot of people have been really casualised by modern easy games and no longer appreciate challenge and/or difficulty in video games which results in the Witcher 3 fandom that is destroying video games.
The police re going to find my corpse eventually with a controller in hand and notes and google videos all over on how to defeat this fucking frog prince.
>MFW everyone is talking about cool shit that comes after this frog that I can't get to. I just lowered difficulty to "just the story..." and still lost to him.
Why didn't they put it a cheat? There was one hard boss early on with Triss, but you could sit back and just shoot arrows at the nigger for 20 mins until he died.
I'm at wit's end with this. Going to be in a psych ward mumbling about "the frog prince" soon...
>>341932576
Lower the difficulty and start using bombs
>>341932550
>implying that we cant have both
>>341932550
Kill yourself. People like you would have us go back to Space Invaders and Pac-Man if they involved more skill than a modern AAA game.
Can you understand how absurd your position is to anyone who doesn't get a sense of achievement from playing children's and young adult's entertainment?
>>341931356
Except it isn't wrong, retard. The only differences are Emhyr, Eredin and the Hunt's motivations you shitskin.
There's plenty of references to the books and events that transpired in them.
>>341926714
I'm on a relatively high end PC but the grass density/view distance kills my FPS
I can't imagine actually having to render good looking grass. The game would run at sub 10fps on a 970/290x
>>341932167
>>341931725
>a-artificial difficulty
>i-it's not hard I'm just too good for it! haha!
t. scrubs
>>341931760
>tfw didn't realize that I was being a shit dad until my daughter died
>still the best ending
Playing through the game again so I can change a bunch of decisions I made and the ending, but the 'bad' ending is still my favorite from a storytelling standpoint.
>>341931725
>I have to go out into the vast and totally empty open world and collect a bunch of shit, with no effect but to waste my time
you can buy all that shit from merchants, most materials you'll get naturally by fulfilling contracts
>crating systems are about as much irrelevant and useless padding as any others.
literally all the best gear is obtained through the crafting system
>morasse of overly long animations on both the player's side and every NPC.
you can literally cancel every single one of your actions with a simple dodge, it's what makes the combat so easy
>input lag
literally never noticed any
confirmed for either not playing or not paying any attention
>>341932907
So you admit witcher 3 is a cinematic story driven experience with bad gameplay?
>>341930267
chivalry medieval warfare has the best sword based combat in a game, idk where these fags are getting their boner for the Souls series
>>341903706
My name is /v/ and I hate everything and witcher suck!
>>341904560
it a toggle you big retard.
>>341931760
>>341933274
who is that werewolf at the end anyway?
>>341933320
Sure, it has bad game mechanics. It's still a good game, though.
>>341904560
it added level UPSCALING, retard.
it's a toggle and it barely works
Why is TW2 so much shittier than TW1?
>>341933320
>story driven
Kind of like how every CRPG from the early 2000's like BG2 and PS:T were story-driven, right? Except in this case reading text from a box constituted good gameplay whereas choreographed/acted/voiced semi-cutscenes are more boring exposition used to entertain 12 year olds, right?
>>341931725
You want an action RPG heavy on action, the Witcher is RPG more than anything else.
>>341931725
look at this faggot. look at this faggot and laugh at his shit baiting/shit taste.
>>341932576
Frog prince is gay, but I managed to beat him on death march
It's weak to fire if you have an upgraded igni or those fire and gas bombs
Otherwise cursed oil and continually roll towards it. Roll can be timed so that you're still rolling when he lands from his jump and take no damage. Then you have 1-2 strikes until he jumps again
Wait till the final boss fight from that dlc you will get your ass munched 10 times before you even begin to figure out what's going on
>>341933493
see thats the thing, i dont understand how you can call it a good game despite the fact that the gameplay is bad. this is what I mean about casualization.
>>341933728
quote my whole post next time instead of strawmanning and taking posts out of context to built a nonargument.
>>341903706
combat sucks. gameplay in a video game. learn it.
>>341903706
>gameplay is irrelevant in a video game.
The combat is shit, the world is shallow and empty, you can interact with nothing, and 90% of the content is MMO quest tier bad. Only main quests and contracts are good.
>>341933415
As far as I know Morkvarg is just a chillbro werewolf.
>>341903706
>And you still talk shit about the gameplay?
Talking shit is the meaning of /v/
>>341934031
>i dont understand how you can call it a good game despite the fact that the gameplay is bad. this is what I mean about casualization.
That's because you're autistic, and you can't appreciate that a thing is the sum of its parts.
Your proposition is equivalent to saying you don't see how the Mona Lisa could be considered a good painting because it has a shitty frame.
A game is entertainment, like movies, books, and films. Get it through your head.
>>341931126
hurr he has a different opinion, fuck off!!!! XDD
>>341934181
Yeah but they modelled real medieval wheat and tons of shitty village you'll never bother remembering
>>341905603
I guess it would blow your mind Ciri's first sexual encounter in the books was homosexual, Philipa is homosexual, so are many others.
This may blow your mind, but many straight men cross dress. Gender is not the same as your sexual orientation. Hobbies aren't reflective of your gender either. Why give girl straight tomboys a pass and metro straight boys not?
The reason I brought this up is because if you fucking talked to the character, you'd find out the character is as straight as a 2-by-4, straighter than Dandelion.
I loved how Witcher treated it's homosexual and female characters so much better than Bioware and never used it as a marketing ploy.
>>341903706
>gorgeous graphics
they're good yes
>world feels rich and alive
it seems that way at a first glance, but as soon as you attempt to focus on any one element of the game you notice how empty and dead everything feels. All of the NPCs are literally just pieces of cardboard outside of cut-scenes.
>memorable sidequests and main story
Kinda. The illusion of choices being meaningful makes it hard to be immersed in anything. I'd rather just watch a mini-series desu.
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
No. The combat is completely shit and completely lacks depth. Nobody plays Witcher 3 for the gameplay, though, so it's fine really.
>>341905539
Did you do NG+ Deathmarch in the expansions?
It's like CDPR looked at Dark Souls boss fights and went
>fuck yeah
>waaaa i want to pick up any random garbage and put buckets on npc heads
>>341934974
>making enemies HP sponges and change nothing else
>this somehow makes the game like dark souls
wew lad, ive seen alot of retard, but you top them all.
>>341905603
>tranny-centric DLC
what
>They're pivoting to consolefags
I'm like, 99% sure the enemy upscaling was added because people kept complaining about being way too overleveled.
>>341935246
that's literally dark souls 3 NG+ though.
>>341934974
The boss fights in both expansions are much better than any in the main game, yeah.
>>341935538
unfortunately the boss fights in both expansions still have only 3 moves that they use in the same order for the entire fight
>>341903706
Bloodbornefags are STILL mad that Witcher 3 was GOTY
That's why they shitpost about Witcher 3 all the time
>>341934974
>mfw elffags thought this was Iorveth after the trailer
>>341935523
Its cute how you ignore the fact that dark souls combat is completely different and actually interesting and difficult, which results in increasing HP and dmg on enemies making the game legit harder.
Whereas in W3, making them into sponges changes nothing because the combat is so terrible, that you're just gonna be mashing X for longer.
>>341935956
it's cute you don't notice the hypocrisy in your statement.
It will never stop being funny how /v/ constantly praised Witcher 1 and 2 despite both games have abhorrent combat.
Witcher 3 arguably improves upon both games' combat, but suddenly /v/ hates it with the excuse "it has shit combat".
Uncharted 4 has more gameplay than witcher 3
prove me wrong
>>341931578
There need to be more games with skyclad witches.
>>341923596
>>341924024
Yeah entire expansion is a whole french reference
French song, french movies, french painting and even the grave of jim morrisson
>>341936851
it's a matter of simple mathematics
uncharted 4 is a 15 hour game with 7 hours of cutscenes whereas The Witcher 3 is an on average 150 hour game, with 2 expansions which add on another 40 hours, make it a 190hour game with 12 hours of cutscenes.
>>341934974
Is NG+ harder than the base game ?
Death march get kinda boring after lvl 20
>>341937723
>average 150 hour
Come on, I hate Uncharted but you have to be a turbo autist to spend that much time in the game. You can beat it comfortably in 40-50 hours with a lot of side-questing.
>>341937723
Damn, sonygger is getting blacker.
>>341937723
w3 is like 85% dialogue cut scenes tho
>>341937990
>>341936851
Witcher 3 base version, a game spanning 3 huge worlds only has 3 more hours of cutscenes than super linear 10 hour long Uncharted 4
Really makes you think.
>>341910905
>dark souls combat clunky
Haha
>>341937990
Maybe on easy you can beat it that quickly
>>341903706
>gorgeous graphics
retards actually believe this
>>341939382
>muh downgrade
>when 70% of the population can't even run the game on high at 60 fps
>>341939382
install STLM + put sharpening on High and you have the top pic.
>>341939382
Sure it got downgraded. But by no means does it mean it looks terrible
>>341939382
>elitist pc cuck wants a pre-e3 alpha build that was optimized for a map 1/50th the size of the full game
>doesn't understand that if the entire game looked like that no card on the market would run it at even medium settings for the next 3 years after release
>requires at least a 980 ti or 1070 with a high end Intel CPU to run it at 1080p at a full 60fps in every area (970/290x cucks like to think their cards run it at 60fps in Novigrad, they can't.)
>>341939382
fuck yoooooooouuuu
>>341939382
It's still beautiful tbqh.
>>341940496
>sonycuck bragging that he's too poor to afford running that
>>341903706
the potions, oil, and all that shit was awfully boring, just like that shitty card game, also food for health is a dumb system
>>341931725
100% this. Great post only one step from being perfect because the shitty meme frog.
>>341941631
nah I'm just ragging on PCMR idiots who think the game was downgraded because of consoles. They can barely run the game 1080/60fps themselves
>>341942909
>projecting your poorfaggotry
>>341937723
>that image
>using scores as argument
>forgot the fact that Witcher 3 is PS4 game
>>341943657
3DMark gives me results above the 80 percentile and I still can't it run without fps drops in certain areas.
>>341943950
What hardware?
>>341944007
i5 and 980
>>341938516
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ox6O9J2pih8
actually 2 times more and only if we count base game not sidequests and expansions
>>341903706
There's nothing wrong with the gameplay, it's a forced /v/ meme
>>341944114
Which i5?
If you did have a modern i5 and a GTX 980 it would give you above 95 percentile
>no more smug smartass witcher adventures
>>341944471
feels bad man
i wanted more anna henrietta
top waifu
I don't get this meme.
The combat controls are very responsive. Hitboxes are flawless. When you hit something it feels very satisfying, sidestepping feels really smooth and natural. It has better combat than 99% of RPGs. It has better combat than Assassins Creed for example.
I really don't understand this forced meme and this stupid board. It's 99% soulsfags
>>341944928
Tank controls. Glitchy horse riding. Shallow combat system. Unbalanced loot and difficulty scaling.
>>341923596
might be based off of the Duchy of Luxembourg
>>341945537
I don't think you know what tank controls mean
>>341945537
> Glitchy horse riding
Never had this glitch, explain?
>Tank controls
There are alternate controls available if you don't like those. It's for movement outside the combat, I found nothing wrong with them
> Shallow combat system
It's not shallow, it's decent for action RPG.
>Unbalanced loot and difficulty scaling.
Explain
>>341944928
>Hitboxes are flawless
This is blatantly wrong and you would have to have some mental problems to believe the rest of your post.
How much do Bethesdadrone and Biowarefags get paid to post on here?
>>341945834
>>341945537
Do you even know what tank controls are?
>>341945920
They do it for free.
You should have seen the downgrade spam at release date, or the people saying how Fallout 4 will btfo The Witcher because of how high metacritic and awards Fallout 3 had.
Now it's the same people crying because people use acclaim as arguments
>>341945745
>>341945995
>try to move sideways, Geralt runs forward and then turns right
>>341945995
I thought he meant the slight delay in movement outside of combat.
But then again he's probably a retard that didn't even play the game and repeats something he heard on /v/
Why are Witcher fans so quick to blame other games for criticism? If you like it so much then you shouldn't need to get defensive before anyone says anything to you.
>>341946203
I bet everyone you disagree with or can't understand the argument of are retards.
>>341946145
Yep you don't know what tank controls are.
Nor do you understand the concept of turning animation
>mfw sidequests keep spawning after finishing one, finish one 4 more pop up. lol I have been playing for many hours and I have not even taken the goddamn boat to Skillege yet.
Is there a better "final goodbye" to a series than this?
enjoying my maxed 3440x1400 on my new 1080.
>>341946376
>I say this therefore I'm right
I understand both concept very well. The problem with Witcher 3 is that they priorized animation over character control. That, and they didn't even make the animations great. It's still awkward.
Better game coming through. It sucks for you that bad gameplay in a videogame doesn't sour your opinion on it.
>>341946495
congrats PC Pimp
mfw I am stuttering to hell and back with my 1920x1080 res with all post pross off and eveything else on high except water, terrain & detail/texture on max, even if I brought those down to high, it won't make a difference, btw my stuttering only really happens in Novigrad, the city of 1000 quests.
>>341946785
>forgot the face
>>341946771
It's not even the same type of game.
>>341947532
Then why did they compete for awards?
>>341947810
You take awards as an authority now? About that...
>>341946482
>implying they won't make a 4th
>>341948606
Not with geralt at least, which is good
>>341903706
>Time to get off your high horse. This isn't a Souls game.
I would like a game like The Witcher series but with Souls combat. I'm not a big fan of combat that consists of holding down a button and watching your character fight for you.
>>341949206
Nah, they could easily do another one with him, just make it much more lower scale.
>>341903706
>world feels rich and alive
The open world is designed like a cheap MMO.
>memorable sidequests and main story
Following red lines is not memorable.
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
Most potions, mutages and sword just make stat changes that add nothing to the gameplay. The magic is just pathetic and the bombs just have short status effects.
>>341909646
>>341909314
It's hard to find someone who circle-jerks about how great darksouls is, (and by extension how great they are) who isn't an autist. Really, the only reason they go on and on about it is because they think that by playing a game that is hard (partially due to being cheap and retarded), that they are superior to others.
It isn't even the hardest game made.
>>341932550
>When will /v/ admit Witcher 3 is the pinnacle of what modern AAA strives to be?
A cinematic experience with absolutely horrid gameplay? That's what AAA games strive to achieve?
>>341949394
But a new setting and new characters would make it a lot more interesting. Just rehashing the same thing gets stale
>>341949484
You have to be severely brain-dead if you think Dark Souls is a particularly hard game.
>>341944928
>It has better combat than Assassins Creed for example.
The later AC games have way better and more responsive combat than TW3. You shills should just admit that the gameplay is bad and keep talking about the graphics.
>>341903706
>memorable sidequests
PIFFTAHAHAHAHAHAH
Yeah man all those fucking letters and notes on a corps IS SOOO MEMORABLE!!!
HAHAHAHA!
>>341903706
>potions, mutagens, signs, oils, bombs and swords adds to a varied playstyle.
why would anyone bother going out of their way to read monster entries, find ingrdients for bombs and oils when slash, dodge, quen repeat works on literally everything?
I can't get over how syrupy everything in this game moves.
>>341949697
thats literally what he said. and hes right. AAA games have always been made to make money first and foremost.
>>341950784
>IP count didn't increase
anon it's been 6 hours
just let go
>>341950456
treasure hunt quests dont count
delete that
delete this
>>341950784
some people play above the easiest difficulty setting
kys weenie boy
>>341950784
>why would anyone bother going out of their way to read monster entries, find ingrdients for bombs and oils when slash, dodge, quen repeat works on literally everything?
Because it makes them feel like they are accomplishing by messing through menus and searching for shit around the map.
>>341950965
But that's wrong you fucking retard. Your IP counter is broken.
>>341950913
>thats literally what he said
Yeah but I don't get why the horrid gameplay is necessary. The Last of Us and Metal Gear Solid V were also cinematic experiences but at least they had good gameplay.
>>341951045
fuck u im a badass witcher i fuck u up man
*applies hanged man's venom*
*drinks thunderbolt, maribor forest, petris philter, full moon, and tanny owl*
fuck u man
fuck u
>>341951225
metal gear is shit and doesnt even come close to the witcher
kill youre self
The fundamental problem with the witcher 3 is the developers gave you one option (use quen, spam light attack) that is SO MUCH BETTER and takes SO MUCH LESS TIME than any other option (potions, oils, bombs, etc) that there becomes no reason to explore the depth the combat system has, making the combat system actually incredibly shallow
The writing is good, but the gameplay is awful and prevents it from being anywhere near the greatest game ever
>>341951002
but I play on death march.
>>341951225
you're either baiting or exposing yourself as a retard. this conversation is over.
>>341950219
I don't think it's hard, people just circle-jerk about it being hard.
I think all Witcher haters are from leddit. They probably praise shit games like Fallout 4 and hate on Witcher 3.
>>341951335
I am sorry I triggered you by pointing out plain facts.
>>341951308
Nice bait. Witcher 3's combat is the best combat of all wrpgs.
No one is forcing you to use Quen. Every game has 1 overpowered build.
Go back to Skyrim and spam r1 faggot.
>>341951471
>I don't think it's hard, people just circle-jerk about it being hard.
And why does that matter? The Souls games came out at a time in which most mainstream games were insanely dumbed down, so it stood out simply because it was a bit hard.
But those games didn't became popular because they were hard, they became popular because they had great combat mechanics and goat level design.
>>341951828
>No one is forcing you to use the best option that is better than any other option in every situation
wtf is wrong with witcher fans
>>341951828
>Nice bait. Witcher 3's combat is the best combat of all wrpgs.
>>341951894
It is only better if you put points in the Quen tree. How hard is to just ignore the Quen tree and focus on Igni + Axii/Aard/Yrden?
>>341951942
good argument
>>341903706
bad combat
many glitches
these are facts
the witcher 3 is a great game
but it has its weaknesses
and they're in its combat
sorry shill
>>341951942
The irony.
Can you name a single wrpg that has better melee combat than Witcher 3? I am waiting.
>>341952068
You are fundamentally missing the point
The point is that every option should be at least generally as viable as each other to give the players an actual reason to experiment
The problem is one option is by far the best and also the easiest, making all the other options useless unless you deliberately choose to gimp yourself and play sub-optimally
If you can't see how that's a huge flaw I don't know what to tell you
>>341952151
The combat's great, and that's a fact.
Sorry shill.
>>341952161
>Can you name a single wrpg that has better melee combat than Witcher 3?
Are you really this much of a pleb?
>>341951828
>Go back to Skyrim and spam r1 faggot.
Why would anyone play Skyrim on console? Anyway, Skyrim had pretty mediocre gameplay too, but at least you can play as a mage, an archer or an assassin, there are real gameplay options. In TW3 you are forced to play as floaty swordsman.
>>341952382
Really now? Flailing your mouse about to change your attack angle and hope to catch enemies unaware is great combat now?
>>341952221
Avoiding op builds in SP games is not a problem, idiot. Souls has easymode magic too.
>>341952272
This
It has objectively good combat system. It's better than most RPG's and can hold it's own against action games like Assassins Creed or BamHam
>>341952556
>he gets raped by bandits in Mountain Blade
Damn I cannot imagine how bad you would get raped in multiplayer.
>>341952382
Literally who tier game.
>>341952581
This
Magic builds in souls games are extremely clunky unpolished and not fun. Most people avoid them
>b-buh I can't help myself but play in the most tedious and unfun way possible
Then you're an idiot
>>341952586
>can hold it's own against action games like Assassins Creed or BamHam
>>341952221
All other signs are just as viable. Quen is just a defensive spell. It doesn't have stagger/stun/AoE damage/DoT damage/slow/etc.
>>341952543
>mage, an archer
Signs, bombs
>assassin
You mean the crouch and 1shot everything gameplay?
>>341952221
>The problem is one option is by far the best and also the easiest, making all the other options useless unless you deliberately choose to gimp yourself and play sub-optimally
Except when it's not.
I don't use Quenn at all in my second play through because I goes with the swordsman route and how easier the shield would break and gets killed.
The used Quenn a lot in my first playthrough because I put a lot of point in it and can regen HP with its second form.
I saw someone who justs spam bombs in every battle because he put all the points in alchemy, every time he just needs to throw 10 bombs at he enemies which I never thought of.
It's all depends on your preference.
>>341952662
Mount & Blade: Warband has sold more copies on Steam than The Witcher 3
>>341929901
>Skyrim has top tier combat.
???
>>341952638
>n-no there's a lot of skill involved in mouse and strafe!
https://youtu.be/EElyLExcKew?t=86
>>341952791
>thinks using signs makes you a mage
Maybe you should play Dragon's Dogma, it would blow your fucking mind.
>>341952914
>video shows several perfect blocks without a shield
That's called skill son.
>>341952964
Maybe you should play witcher instead of shitposting here
>>341952891
And people say Witcher 3 has bad combat. LMAO.
>>341953094
>he cannot play games and post at the same time
I have the game installed right now. The gameplay is so shitty and the story is so boring.
H
>>341953080
>holding down a button and swinging your mouse in a direction is the epitome of combat
Wow, my eyes are open. I'm gonna open MSPaint and have the adventure of my life.
>>341953285
I think if you are going to shitpost about a game you haven't played maybe you should consider playing it.
>>341949484
I consistently see Dark Souls listed in the top 5 hardest games ever, but people who think Dark Souls is the hardest thing ever have to be underage B&. The enemies telegraph their moves and give you a generous amount of time to dodge. Estus also is a bit strong. I'm not saying its easy, but there are just games that are far more unforgiving.
>>341937990
>>341952586
>can hold it's own against action games like Assassins Creed or BamHam
its funny because ass creed mixed with bamham perfectly describes witcher 3 combat.
>>341952221
>unless you deliberately choose to gimp yourself and play sub-optimally
Sort of like doing no kill runs in MGS right, you do it because it's fun even though it's easier to kill. Your logic is retarded.
>>341928062
But W3 is on PS4.
>>341903706
After 8 hours of watching the Witcher 3 and maybe twenty minutes of moving to the next boring animated scene, I have to wonder how can anyone handle this, do you just click skip every time they talk or what?
>>341956791
Yeah dude, fuck reading
>>341956791
No, you go back to play Call of Duty or AssCreed what ever games you used to play.
>>341951854
>great combat mechanics
What is so great about their combat mechanics?
>goat level design
How is that a positive feature?
>>341957026
Nier is better than Bitcher 3 in every way
Did they do something to mutagens? Can you develop them further or something? I think i skipped the tutorial prompt.
Also, the Skellige faction is kinda cool, but it's still not as solid as the Northern Armies and Nilfgaardian decks. Too gimmicky.
Game is still amazing of course.
>>341903706
>muh edgy grit
>muh realistic tolkien fantasy
>muh open world meme
>muh cinematic experience
>muh nonexistent gameplay
Witcher 3 is a shitty Zelda clone. Westacucks will never make a good game. They can't even make a game to begin with
Reminder that all you're doing is feeding shit posters by replying to obvious bait threads.
新しい新作を期待するだけだ
>>341957442
There's a quest that unlocks extra slot and one new bonus ability. Also can use crafting to change their color
>>341957026
>if you don't like The Witcher you must like CoD
step it up senpai
>>341957832
Oh. It's just that i saw there were two types of restoration potions and got kinda confused.
>>341957952
Yeah, the new potion resets the bonus abilities you've unlocked
>missing out on The Witcher
shiggylydigglydoo
>>341912840
But I get to roleplay as a witcher and do contracts and be geralt and stuff.
How's that not good as a roleplaying game?
>>341903706
for how long are you going to keep posting this shit?
you witcherfags arent even talking properly about the game.
it has shit controls and gameplay, deal with it
>>341930193
Because that shit can be really annoying if you don't want to notice it.
>Walk somewhere where you have a quest active, everything starts fucking glowing.
Personally I'd prefer to just be able to track and do shit myself without the whole glowing mechanic.
Great Mods;
BetterLoot
MapQuestObjectives
Better Combat Enhanced
AutoApplyOils
Auto Loot
Disable Soft Lock
Fast Travel Anywhere
Enhanced Herbalism
Ultra Gore 2
>>341959564
There are mods to remove the witcher vision glowing
>>341931854
I don't mind the gameplay, but I always have to be in the mood for that type of game BECAUSE the gameplay isn't very in depth.
I enjoy Witcher 3 because I get to explore and wander around doing whatever the fuck and kill shit, craft shit, and do dialogue.
Basically the same shit I used to do in really old games, minus in depth RPG leveling.
It's just a really immersive game if thats what you are into, and thats what makes me love it.
you guys like temeria?
>>341960065
Why did you keep bumping your own threads?
>>341960136
that was my first post in this thread
>>341931126
lmao i made mine kill himself like the sack of shit alcoholic retard he is. clearly incompetent to rule.
Btw, down the track a witcher 4 is inevitable (we all know it will happen at some point)
Thoughts on story progression?
mine
>Avallach fella passed witcher trails or whatever, is mutated elf snob nosed faggot, will start wild hunt 2.0
>Story starts off as Geralt and Ciri playable, Geralt eventually dies, leaving Ciri a Salty Smug Asshole (just like Geralt) to absolutely everyone. Eventually her elder blood gets shoehorned in as plot blood for revival potion/ritual that Brings Geralt back to life (because people coming back to life in a medievil/fantasy settign is all the rage now. see: game of thrones)
>>341961293
that sounds fucking retarded anon.
>>341903706
>repetitive as fuck
>literally everything looks the same
>combat is piss easy no matter what you spec into
>hardest difficulty isn't even hard
>most "decisions" are irrelevant
>cant even 3 way your 2 waifus and have halal marriage
>>341961293
nah mate, geralt story is over, let it go bro, if we ever get another witcher with geralt it will be a prequel or something, IF we do get another witcher, the MC will be ciri (hard because of her OP powers), or it will take the setting and let us create our own witcher character.
>>341961651
I will give you the repetitive combat, but the game actually gets pretty damn hard on the higher difficulties, also a lot of decisions are important, a lot of them get some characters killed, others decide if ciri lives or dies, if she joins you or becomes empress, it lets you decide your waifu, etc etc, its seems you didnt play the game at all shitposter bro
>>341951270
t. salty witcherfag
>>341961293
I want it to be about Eskel or some equivalent bro-tier witcher, just roaming and questing and handling peasant business and nobleties alike. Maybe set in the time when monsters were a bigger problem
>>341961963
Ciri is such a shit choice for MC I don't understand how anybody would want that. Custom MC could work but it wouldn't have as much personality.
>>341962437
the only way ciri would work is by some dumb plot device that seals her power or some shit like that, so she must travel the world to find a way to stop the one blocking her power, doing witcher stuff on the side, I think it would work. Custom MC would suck, the witcher series is a story and character driven game, without a set MC with and established personality, the game would be boring as fuck
>>341962184
The only way higher difficulties are hard is if you go full light gear and never use igni or quen because you can literally burn-lock almost everything in the game.
>a lot
There's like 5 decisions that matter in regards to ciri, and only 3 of them you need the good outcome for her to live. Everything else aside from waifuing and main characters doesn't matter.
I played through twice, first on B&B and 2nd on DM. Loved my first playthrough and thoroughly enjoyed blood and wine but 2nd playthrough really showed me how mediocre it is.
I still think it's a good game though and would recommend to anybody but it's really a one time playthrough kind of game.
>>341931984
Also O'Dimm appearing in all those fucking background scenes.
>>341962706
Why are you shitposting like the game is garbage then? 1 playthrough is not bad for a 100-200 hour game. And yes, it's story heavy, we get that.
>>341962642
Hence why somebody like Eskel would be perfect. He's the kind of character whose story just begs to be told.
>>341962931
>OP posts bait thread begging for criticism
>oblige his wishes
You think those few details make it garbage? It's the characters/story and environment that matters in the current year :^)
Witcher 3 is the best RPG ever made and non of you faggots can do anything about it.
>>341931984
I don't know I'd say the closest competitor for cinematography is Kojima.
His stories might be pedantically convoluted and mildly pretentious but the man knows how to use angles in cutscenes but I havent played Life is Strange.
>>341963447
I'll make 200 more threads crying about 10 million people buying it and being a 100 hour games at a 500% faster retention rate than Red Dead Redemption and we will prove how irrelevant and dead the game is by how many people flock to call me a retard.
That will show you AND CDPR.
>>341963613
Red Dead Redemption was a good game.
>>341963447
I wouldnt go as far as "est rpg ever made", but it is by far the best one of this and the past generation, the only thing thats sets it back is the combat.
>>341958804
By that logic, every game is an RPG.
>>341929262
wtf ?? how
>>341964042
I never said it wasn't.
>>341906772
>every rock is different size, roads twist and are very realistic.
Who gives a shit about these trivial details when we quick run by on the horse
The point is "macro design" the creativity and imagination and mood the maps supposed to give
I can tell a great difference between Swamp and Irithyll.
I feel cold in Irithyll, I feel nervous when jumping down ledges in Blighttown
I feel hot in Iron Keep
The sounds, color and models are all very different between locations
The Witcher give me none of those level of creativity and feeling. The map is basically general medieval, don't kid yourself
>>341905603
You need the make those redditors poor somehow.
already wrong in the first line, how much more wrong can i expect you to be if i kept reading? (i won't)
>>341926740
>You literally get rewarded for kicking a trannies teeth in.
GOAT
phillipa a cute
>mfw souls fags are being obliterated itt
>>341965778
So? I felt the same way moving between the grassy and snowy areas in skyrim. Does that automatically mean it's a better rpg because the atmosphere of the different areas was better than souls or w3? It certainly does according to you.
>>341903706
>graphics and story = gameplay
>>341967475
>Does that automatically mean it's a better rpg
No because Skyrim has no art originality in architectural and terrain design, when Morrowind has done a better job
>>341903706
You missed piss poor optimisation on PC. Seriously, CDPR could learn a thing or two from developers like DICE (Battlefield series, Battlefront) and CA (Alien: Isolation, Total War: Warhammer).
>>341967260
You are free to prefer either game but pretending that Souls combat is not lightyears ahead of every TW game is absurd.
But that's the focus of the Souls games, combat.
>>341968157
i don't think it runs all that bad for how it looks, really. not saying it runs great or anything, but it runs pretty good.
>>341904852
... it doesn't matter if you can turn it off?
>>341968527
are you dumb
they built the game around thing.
you can turn thing off.
the game is still built around thing, which is now missing.
>>341968738
the game was not built around level scaling, as there was no level scaling before the last patch.
>>341903706
/v/ is never happy.
>still shits on stalkers and red orchestra. Arma etc
>ongoing continuous cumguzzling threads for overspooge
>>341903706
>Geralt gets hit once.
>Wobbles around stunned for an eternity.
>Finally back in control, try to dodge.
>Stunned again.
Geralt you're stronger than that.
>>341933379
>comparing 1st person rock paper scissors to a 3rd person action rpg
>>341969036
Law of conservation of momentum says no. You actually react far less to hits than you should simply for reasons of fun.
>maybe 100 kg human gets hit by 400kg minster arm moving at 50kmph+ impart several thousand pounds of pressure
>deformed corpse doesn't go flying at 30kph or w/e or more
>>341968337
Block,Attack.
Thats it. Thats all it is in souls games.
>>341968738
They added level UP-scaling last patch when people apparently had requested it. It was a brilliant addition, now fighting random mobs or doing low-level quests is no longer boring. And yet you somehow manage to cry about it, probably haven't even played the game since you have no idea what the fuck it means
>>341969662
you seem to have repeated my point but pretended it was a different thing by chasing a word.
i'll let you sort out your problems.
>>341961293
How about
>totally new witcher
>unrelated to geralt or his previous story
>witchers are even more rare
>you go around doing quests, obviously
>eventually try to re-start a witcher school to make witchers common again
And theres the basic plot.
>>341969812
And what exactly is "thing" you can turn off? Low-level enemies being a breeze to kill? You think the game was built around that? How is it bad that you can make low-level enemies harder if you want to?
>>341903706
Graphics aren't that good
World is populated by zombies that do the same shit day after day and monsters that anyways appear in the same areas
13 Hours of cutscenes, its literally a movie
99% of gameplay consists of follow the waypoint
Cool tracking gameplay becomes just ass creed 'press Y to be told where to go'
Combat is simplistic trash on anything but hard
This game is more overrated than Uncharted 4
>>341970137
I think you've forgotten how to have fun.
>>341970205
I'm not the sort of person who can have fun RPing, which is all this game is good for
>>341903706
how many times have you replayed the game?
question applies to everyone touting it as a good game btw
>>341970137
Whats your favorite game? Ill tell you why its shit
>>341968738
I'm the guy you were actually responding to, but they didn't build the game around that... they simply allowed those of us who don't want to outlevel the trash mobs the option to have a little extra challenge.
It's an extra difficulty option.
I fail to see how this totally optional choice to either leave the game in it's original form or boost the lowest level enemies to your level hurts anything, especially because your character still develops and gets new skills and mutagens.
You're bitching about options.
Now if they made it affect every game with no option, cool, I'd say you have a point but... optional.
>>341970382
The playtime of one playthrough is more than all your playthroughs of [your favorite game] combined.
Anyway, to answer your question, twice.
>>341905939
fuck off, Kaer Morhen is superb set piece
it goes to shit after that though
>>341912987
I do have to wonder if someone fell for the picture given the choices it went with.
>>341970382
i'm on my third playthrough. played once before DLC, once for heart of stone, and i'm on my way to blood and wine.
>Fighting just plain doesn't work
>Had to patch fucking walking for even that to work properly
>No thought to pacing when switching between broken combat and interminable terrible writing
It's shite
>>341970382
>how many times have you replayed the game?
2. Only havent done it again because i want to get a new graphics card before I do. The game is long, though, thats like asking how many times people have played Skyrim through. Literally zero for me.
>>341905971
So don't play it. We like it, and it's not like you'll change our minds now.
>>341970479
Ive played bloodborne for 400 hours and it took me around 120 hours to 100% vanilla tw3 on the first playthrough
and halfway through it became a laughable slog where I forced myself to finish it, they dropped the ball after velen and never got back to those heights, never introduced anything new or interesting anymore sans the small bit where you portal through different worlds
>>341970479
You do realise that if the core gameplay is boring and uninspired, having many hours of it is not necessarily a good thing
Too bad it's open world so I'll never touch it.
>>341970675
>bloodborne
Well look look, who would've thunk it would be a braindead fromdrone shitposting about witcher
>>341970870
>guy says he played Bloodborne
>this makes him a fromdrone
You're projecting so hard mods should be charging admission for this thread and handing out popcorn
>>341965115
I never said you said it wasn't.
>>341970960
>guy says he played 400 hours of Dark Souls 5: Rehash Edition
>guy shits intensely on a competing game he doesn't even play
>guy is not a fromdrone
>>341903706
Shitty combat
Shitty UI
The magic system is trash
Potions, bombs etc. are shit too
>>341970870
>f-f-fr-fromd-drone...
or maybe its because bloodborne is simply a better game in every possible way except maybe graphics?
I can take 5 hours to run through bloodborne or 40 hours to 100% its content ( and thats obviously not counting the infinite randomized dungeons, only the normal ones)
every weapon has more depth than the entire arsenal of TW3 combined, the enemies and bosses are actually well designed (both visually and gameplay wise)
even the fucking story and lore is better, it simply doesnt give it 100 hours of cutscenes like tw3 does
inb4 tw3 was too hard for you even if the game is literally assassins creed without the good animations/ parkour but with a mass effect powerwheel thrown in
got TW3 for free and I still feel ripped off, TW1 is the only good game in the series
>high quality story, setting, characters, writing
>best gameplay the genre has ever seen
>NOT AS GOOD AS SOULS, IT'S TOTAL FUCKING GARBAGE
>>341971064
>guy claims one playtrough of witcher is longer than all the playtroughs of (your favorite game)
>not a shitposting witchershill.
Not that anon, but I've played Bloodborne for over 900 hours. And unlike you, I realize that my favorite game has flaws.
>>341971064
So you only read the first 6 words of his post before your anus exploded into rage and you had to angrily call him a fromdrone?
How can one person get so mad about somebody criticising their favourite game?
Surely if it was really that good you wouldn't feel the need to defend it so bad
>>341971179
>TW1 is the only good game in the series
EDGY
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Watch out, we got a cool kid here.
>>341971179
>he enemies and bosses are actually well designed (both visually and gameplay wise)
They're slow and clunky with long-ass tells and easily avoidable thanks to the dumb i-frame mechanic they STILL haven't been able to get rid of. At least the PC is not as clunky in bloodboner as it was in the previous games.
>TW1 is the only good game in the series
This is just how I know you're a retarded sperg with no own opinions. If you liked TW1 there's no way you wouldn't like TW3 because of its combat.
>>341903706
I thought the combat wasdecent
Managed to keep me interested, even on lower difficulties. It's kind of like if AssCreed wasn't total shit.
I don't think the issue with Witchers combat is the shitty movement system or the sparsity of the tools at your disposal - although they do hurt it - but the enemy variety.
Literally every single enemy has some generic claw swipe, some gap closing jumpy swipe and a small 2-hit claw combo
They even reskin normal enemy movesets for bosses, akin to that one Wild Hunt guy you fight with Keira.
Apart from glitchy bowmen that shoot you through trees, bad hitboxes and the downright abysmal variety in tools, its serviceable at best.
>>341971237
>>341971216
>criticizing
>>LE IT'S SHIT XD
That doesn't honestly even warrant a response, guys
LITERAL DOWNGRADE
>>341971317
>I'm going to ignore all genuine criticisms and call him edgy
Classic symptoms of denial
>>341971334
TW1 combat feels like im actually using my head, picking whatever style and sword I need and applying the right potions, signs are actually tactical etc
TW3 is buttonmashing and if I wanted that id play a real action game like ninja gaiden or bloodborne
>>341971317
quests are infinitely superior, no retarded huge open world and I didnt get immeaditely annoyed by the animations like I did in TW3 where geralt is a clunky fuck that runs like he had shit his pants
>>341971421
>>341970137
>Graphics aren't that good
>World is populated by zombies that do the same shit day after day and monsters that anyways appear in the same areas
>13 Hours of cutscenes, its literally a movie
>99% of gameplay consists of follow the waypoint
>Cool tracking gameplay becomes just ass creed 'press Y to be told where to go'
>Combat is simplistic trash on anything but hard
>Y-YOU JUST SAID IT WAS SHIT
>LA LA LA I CAN'T HEAR YOU
Hilarious
Stay in denial
>>341971421
Your shitposting barely does anyway.
Multiple people have already stated why the gameplay is subpar. Like this post here>>341971409
>>341971543
>TW1 combat feels like im actually using my head
>TW3 is buttonmashing
HOHOHOHO
TW1 was piss easy rhythmic clicking and I never played that type of games before. TW3 at least requires positioning in addition to that
All in all, it's not really any worse than the clunky Souls combat that gets way too much credit on /v/ because it's "hard". Bloodboner is the only from title with decent combat. And TW3's main focus even isn't combat.
>>341949456
(you)
>>341960136
CDPR shills do that. Just mobile bump over and over again.
>>341971675
>>Graphics aren't that good
Better than bloodborne you're shilling, so how's that a negative for witcher?
>>World is populated by zombies that do the same shit day after day and monsters that anyways appear in the same areas
The world has an incredible amount of detail and dozens of unmarked quests and events
>>13 Hours of cutscenes, its literally a movie
It literally isn't, what a shitty hyperbole
>>99% of gameplay consists of follow the waypoint
Again, a straight up lie, it's closer to 0.5%
>>Cool tracking gameplay becomes just ass creed 'press Y to be told where to go'
I'm getting deja vu, it's almost as if you just used this argument
>>Combat is simplistic trash on anything but hard
Again, a lie. It's good, and great for an RPG.
Although it's not particularly fun to traverse and explore I do appreciate the large nature of the open world maps and the seamless cities and stuff. Just wish it was attached to game that is in any way good
>>341971863
>guy says why something is bad
>n-nooo its a lie...
How can anyone say dark souls is good? I downloaded it based on the amount of asslicking it gets on here and it was fucking trash. It some boring hack and slash with nothing else. At least w3 is a boring hack and slash with a brilliant narrative. The w3 story is one of the best I've played. Very well written.
This is a factual post and not a shitpost. I can show you my ds2 game saves and all that if you're so ass blasted at me criticising your failed abortion of a game.
What the shitposting autist doesn't understand's that it's not that the game's perfect, it's the fact that no one would spend hours and hours every day for more than a year to post about a game he hates.
>>341972058
>guy spews things that are obvious bullshit to any outside observer
>waaa, stop busting my lies :'(
It has the worst gameplay of any game released in 2015.
>>341971863
Aside from the obvious resolution and framerate advantage advantage of Tw3 on pc, bb is far better looking. Much better art direction, much more varied monsters and enemies, much more detail in the world. Tw3 is a boring European fantasy game with generic fantasy monsters we've already seen 1000 times
There is literally more than 13 hours of cutscenes, look it up. The main story takes 40-45 hours, almost a third of that is cutscenes. Its a movie
There's no real questing in the game, you're straight up told where to go every time
The witcher 3's combat is simplistic as hell, not helped by the fact that most of the enemies use a copy pasted moveset
>>341972265
>bb is far better looking.
My sides
>>341972129
>brilliant narrative.
This has to stop. Witcher's story is any generic fantasy toss-off and the writing is honest-to-god terrible. The way they integrated side quests so they inform the main quests was good, that's literally as much as I can praise the often cringe-inducing writing
>>341914543
You can parry or be a turtle, you can dual wield crossbows, use magic etc...
>>341904560
Considering the vanilla game had some fucking awful hard gating system where you'd get a 95% or something damage penalty when you attacked an enemy just above the level treshold, that might just be a big improvement
>>341972129
>ds2
you sounded retarded anyways but this pretty much confirmed it
also you seem to be too stupid to realize it but dark souls is liked for the exact opposite reason as tw3- its conscious lack of narrative and handholding
every element of game design contributes to that, and its exactly why many people often feel fearful when playing the game through for the first time
its an adventure, but it doesnt feel like its an "experience" on rails
Why the guy who keeps posting about how he hates Witcher 3 don't understand that there's no perfect game?
What a fucking dumb ass.
>>341972354
He's right
>>341972354
Art direction > MOAR PIXELS
>>341972265
>Aside from the obvious resolution and framerate advantage advantage of Tw3 on pc, bb is far better looking.
Should've stopped reading there. The monster designs are convoluted and way too messy. Everything else is dark corridors and caves. Witcher 3 does medieval fantasy world exceptionally.
>There is literally more than 13 hours of cutscenes, look it up. The main story takes 40-45 hours, almost a third of that is cutscenes. Its a movie
That's 10% of the game, I don't see how that's outrageous.
>There's no real questing in the game, you're straight up told where to go every time
There's a metric shitton of quests and you are free to complete them in any order you wish
>The witcher 3's combat is simplistic as hell, not helped by the fact that most of the enemies use a copy pasted moveset
It's kinda simplistic, but it does its job more than well enough. That's literally the only point you can make, and it doesn't turn the game into shit magically, just like all other RPGs aren't shit either because they don't have DMC-tier combat.
>>341972265
Bloodborne's literally a walking simulator where you keep watching your weapon clip through the same generic zombie over and over again until they're dead, you can barely call it a combat system.
When 90% of an actuall gameplay is combat medicore won't do.
>Suddenly at 3am the BB shitposters ghost in
Can't be a coincidence
>>341972464
Yeah there is no perfect game, but Tw3 is barely mediocre
I'm fine with the gameplay, but I really dislike the systems surrounding it. Random treasures, the game showering you with randomly generated, worthless runic swords, alchemy system being a rushed mess, level gating fucking exploration up, I had some more complaints at release that I forgot
If they invested even a fraction of the time into those systems it'd be gotyay
>>341972265
>Bloodbonre has better art direction
You must really like copy and pasted grimdark corridor that took itself too serious to the point of hilarity
>>341929262
>he doesn't use igni on enemies who are already fighting eachother
you people need to get creative
>>341972265
>Bloodborne has better art direction
Agreed
>everything else
Jesus you gotta be fucking retarded.
>>341972579
>posting about a game you find mediocre every single day
What a fucking autist.
I find most of the games I played utterly forgettable yet I don't cry about it every day.
>>341972556
Bloodborne offers the most satisfying feedback in any 3rd person fighting game, Witcher 3 is the title with arbitrary non-connecting weaponry
>>341972568
Regis was such a bro. I'm sad that I finished the main dlc quest today.
>>341972556
>confirmed for never having played the game or even watched much of it
>>341972265
>Witcher 3
>Aard
>Yrden
>Quen
>Igni
>Axii
>Rolling
>Parrying
>Dodging
>Over thirty different potions to chose from for each battle.
>Bloodborne
>Jab
>Roll around with buggyunrealistic invulnerability frames.
>Jab
>Chug Orange Juice all day to compensate for error.
>>341931048
>Lvl 4
>Death March?
>Beginning area
Aight
>>341972838
>non-connecting weaponry
Eh?
Aight.
>>341972673
>bb takes itself too seriously
>meanwhile muh batman voice geralt is giving another monologue
>>341972838
The combat in Bloodborne's basically like a musou game but minus all the fun. I mean the one in Witcher 3 isn't that great but at least it's good enough for me to sit through the 120 hours of it
>>341971179
>even the fucking story and lore is better
I think Bloodborne is brilliant and the best Souls game, but what the fuck are you even on about? The plot premise is very interesting, but it doesn't do anything with it.
>>341972998
>area
Boss I mean.
>>341973020
You're getting really desperate if you start accusing W3 of being overly serious, shitposter
Do the Soulborne fans talk about anything but their shitty meme and degenerate waifu shit and attack other games that's not made by Fromsoft?
>>341972993
This is some lazy bait
A single weapon in Bloodborne has more attack animations than all the swords in W3 combined, funny enough because all of them are reskinned skins instead of unique weapons.
>>341973020
Geralt's a wise cracker even though he's pretty emotionless most of the time.
>>341973191
Bullshit, there's just a few basic movesets all the weapons recycle in BB, maybe making slight changes
ITT
>souls fags constantly shitposting about witcher 3
>they believe everything they say is fact
>witcher fags giving genuine criticism about dark souls and how bad it is
>t-that's your opinion
>everyone in the w-whole world thinks souls is better than the witcher
>y-you're autistic
So the conclusion is everyone who plays dark souls is some basement dwelling virgin autist. At least we cleared that one up.
>>341972993
This guy gets it.
>>341931048
>people still claim W3 combat is good.
>>341973191
A witcher uses swords. They use signs. They use potions. What do you want?
Kinda lore breaking for Geralt to go hunting a fiend with a giant axe or javelin.
>>341973191
Listen to that guy, he's right.
And this is from someone who has been playing BB since launch.
I have enough of you, retards. Half of you, at least. I love Witcher as much as I love Souls series and actually enjoy both. (but I didn't played Bloodborne, as I don't own PS4)
Yes, Witcher doesn't have Souls combat, but it never intended to have one.
Yes, Souls have lore hidden in the game and most of people don't even give a fuck about it besides combat and gameplay.
HEY BOTH GAMES HAVE FLAWS, WHAT A SUPRISE. LIKE FUCKING EVERYTHING.
I'm tired of these threads, I just want to talk about shit, like in those few threads on /v/ that happends time to time. But I fucking can't since you fucks shitpost about both series.
Eh, time to fucking skip this shit and stay on Vampire threads. At least those mantain level of some quality.
>>341973253
confirmed for knowing nothing about bloodborne
ludwigs holy blade alone has over 30 moves, theres your generic sword weapon just like in witcher
add to that all the actually interesting weapons like beast cutter, whirligig saw, saw cleaver, blade of mercy, bloodletter, amygdalan arm etc
I don't get the hate between the games that comes from some of the fans. Personally I enjoy both and find them to be enjoyable for different reasons.
>>341973253
Do explain
Each weapon has over 14 different animations, and R1s have 3 or even 5 hit combos.
>click into a random Dark Souls thread
>PUMP A RUM LEEEEEEELLLL
>RAVEN GIRL IS MAH WAIFU!!
>PICKLE PEEEEE XDDDD
Jesus that's some MLP tier fanbase.
>>341973371
ryu in ninja gaiden 2 has over 70 moves in the starting weapon ( the dragon sword)
I cant see it being impressive when you cant even fucking combo in TW3, everything is just an excuse for the shitty combat "w-well its an RPG!11"
Is this game still fun if you absolutely hate the Batman-tier combat? I can't decide whether to try it or not.
>>341973595
Souls BTFO
What a shit series
>>341973619
batman combat is much more fluid and fun than what you have in witcher
>>341973543
>14 different animations
>they're all smash r1 to win
There're probably hundreds of different animations for the movesets of Batman in the Arkham game if that tells you anything.
>>341973619
The combat is nice especially if you go full signs build. The rest of the game is exceptional, felt like a child playing it. I recommend maybe torrenting it first. Takes about 2-4 hours to get into it properly.
>>341973671
t. dark sools autist
>>341973595
>The only good gameplay is one where eyou can get COMBOS and ANIMATIONS.
Aight. To each their own. Can I like both? Guess not in your strange little world. I'm glad I'm not so disabled that I can enjoy multiple varieties of games and appreciate each of them for their own features.
I'm also glad I don't see the world in banal definition of "superior" and "inferior" regarding a hobby. What a shitty existence that must be.
>>341973371
>A witcher uses swords. They use signs. They use potions. What do you want?
Variety in my gameplay? Variety in a game that supposedly lasts over 120 hours according to people in this thread?
It works lorewise but lets not fucking pretend that it doesn't limit the gameplay portion of this video game - you know, the one thing video games have unique about them.
Bloodborne's fun if you just to want turn your brain off and play some arcady hack and slash game.
Witcher 3's combat requires better reflex and strategies especially when you're dealing with multiple enemies.
>>341973557
>click into a random witcher 3 thread
>triss or yen
>you can only choose one
>Gaunter O'Dimm = G.O.D MIND BLOWN xD
>triss is a burnt corpse ugly bitch!
>yen is a thundercunt hunchback!
>waifufagging out the ass
>nobody talking about gameplay
Jesus thats some MLP tier fanbase
>>341973701
>>14 different animations
>>they're all smash r1 to win
101 sign of a shitposting idiot who has no idea what hes talking about.
>>341973840
And Dark Souls failed to keep my attention for even 60 hours.
People want different things from different games. I guess in your opinion every RPG preceding the Souls franchise was garbage, and most if not all WRPGs and CRPGS are shit?
>>341973840
It's funny that you're only replying to the post that suits your argument when multiple people in the thread already told you why the combat in BB's mediocre at best.
see
>>341973701
>>341973930
>>341973403
>>341972993
>>341973980
>>click into a random witcher 3 thread
>>DARK SOULS IS BETTER WITCHER IS SHIT AT EVERYTHING WHY DIDN'T BLOODBONER WIN GOTY BTW
>>341973980
>Go into Dark Souls thread
>DEEPEEST
LORE
>fanfiction
>Go into Bloodbourne thread
>I've read everything before in Lovecraft
>Lovecraft fanfiction
>Atmosphere is soooo Gothic...soooo Victorian....sooo Edwardian... Soooo aesthetic!
>>341974091
>this is why its mediocre
>straight up lies
are you genuinely retarded? atleast the people who shittalk witcher 3 have actually played it
I guess its just the peacocks clinging onto a multiplat
>>341974091
It's funny when you think multiple people are the same person.
I find it more funny you constantly refresh threads about a game you hate. Do you need to talk about something? Having this much negativity on your life isn't good for your health, Anon =(
>>341974037
We're not arguing about subjective opinions and what we prefer here.
Its a set-in-stone fact that Souls and especially Bloodborne has more variety when it comes to melee combat. Its a non-argument, its literally fact just by watching the amount of tools you have and the way you can use them.
>>341974091
I responded to that first guy, who claimed over 14 different animations turned into "mash R1 to win"
The second guy is partly right, although that doesn't mean Witchers combat is good.
The third guy is speaking facts and complaining that he can't talk about these games, which is a fault for the OP post since he started the game with obvious shitposting bait
The fourth guy is shitposting out the ass and didnt even TRY to make something worthwhile out of his post
>>341974093
>start bait threads every day
>shitpost the whole board with GOTY award shitposting as if those have ever mattered
>claim superiority to everyone and dismiss all criticisms and comparisons as "lol soulsfags" or "muh GOTY awards"
>expect shit to go down smoothly
>>341974091
>MY POST >>341973403
>>341974252
>>341974289
All of you, go fuck yourself and don't get me into your shitty shitpost thing.
I never said that Souls combat is medicore or whatever. I like it. As much as I like Witcher series atmosphere and world.
How can anyone like the clunky combat in Dark Souls, it's so fucking boring
>first hour of the game
>R1xr1r1r1xr1r1x
>100 hours later
>r1r1xr1r1xrr1xr1
>>341974689
Literally the same argument can be made for witcher, and its even more prevalent in dark souls because as opposed to witcher, enemies and bosses in dark souls don't get staggered to oblivion with R1 mashing
>>341974768
The boss fight in dark souls is literally R1 smashing except you r1 for 10 minutes instead of 5 seconds. Bosses in Witcher 3 would counter and block so you don't get to stun them more than 2 or 3 times.
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