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Why did you stop playing SFV, /v/?


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Why did you stop playing SFV, /v/?
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Cause dreamhack is on
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Waiting for the story mode and DLC to drop, then I'll pick it back up for a bit.
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>>341873505
i didnt. the game is good.
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I'm waiting for Balrog.
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>>341873505
because tekken 7 is a better game and i'm playing it instead
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Everytime I play casual I always get stuck with someone on a very high gold ranking.

The community is so dead the only thing high skilled players have left to do now is pick the wings off flies. It's fucking boring.
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>>341873923
I'm playing tekken 8 m8.
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>>341873505
Because its utterly shit, casual garbage, dumbed down baby mode mechanics, zero depth, slow as fuck, 8 frames of input delay, shit roster. the list goes on.
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microtransactions ruined it for me
making money once you run out of the bonuses it's like impossible
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>>341874012
I really want to see what tournament numbers do after cpt.
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>>341874072
>he doesn't save his FM for characters and nothing else

I like that I'm getting them for free, and being able to pick-and-choose instead of spending 20 bucks for a group of characters I don't even want. If they'd done this system before, I only would've picked up Yun from AE, and Hugo and Poison from Ultra.

Right now I'm only thinking of Urien and Juri, so I'll have a lot for the next season.
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>>341874072
You get close to one million FM just by doing all survivals, trials and stories.
And Daily bonuses aren't even there yet. You have enough to buy 1 season and a half for characters just by playing the game right now
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>>341873505
I didn't even start because it was a half-finished cash-grabbing turd upon release that didn't even have a single player mode. What a joke.
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>>341873505

Waiting 10-15 minutes per ranked game
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>>341874012
This.

Waiting for the game to have a resurgence.
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>>341873505
I'm waiting for the matchmaking to be fixed because it sucks having to wait 5 to 10 minutes just for one match.
I'm also waiting for my main Ibuki at first i wanted balrog but since he won't have a reversal or a 3F he will most likely be very low tier
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All my friends want to play other things. Takes a lot of time just to play the game at a beginner level. I have a lot of other games to play that don't demand so much.
I'll get around to learning it eventually.
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>>341874334
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I've taken to doing real-life exercises while waiting between matches. feel like I'm training twice, you know?
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>>341873505
I didn't, but I'm going to take a break from it until the story mode hits. Thinking about which character to focus on next.

>Karin Level 41
>Super Gold League
>her Uwahahaha! title just unlocked

I'm pleased with myself.
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>>341873505
Working 12 hours a day fuck I wish I was a NET again...
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Can't find anybody in ranked that's not 0-1000 point Ryu, and don't really feel like doing Battle Lounges
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>>341873505
Well...

Netplay problems
Matchmaking still sucks
No way to filter by region (SF4 ok)
Rage quitter problem still present
You have to save replays before watching them
Can't sort friends
No way to add friends from lobby (?)
Separating favourites (players you want to watch) from friends (players you want to play with) is needed
No online training (SF4 ok)
Archaic lobbies - no way for multiple matches at the same time
Statistics are still empty
Notifications screen doesn't update when it's open
Sending invitations when user is offline doesn't work
Battle lounge doesn't save settings
Long maintenances
Can't acquire FM in offline mode
Losing connection to servers interrupts offline modes
Gameplay problems
badly implemented legacy controller support (complicated as fuck)
no instruction how to use legacy controller support
no dinput support on PC (SF4 ok)
no key binding on PC
keyboard can only be P1 controller
no way to change specific graphical settings on PC without accessing config files (blur etc)
standard moves marketed as something new by making them into vskills
8f lag

to be continued...
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Because guilty gear is better in just about every conceivable way
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...and...

many characters have too similiar gameplans
unimaginative vtriggers
atrocious hitboxes
long loading times
framerate issues on PS4
fucked up button settings on character select - pressing again unsets buttons (SF4 ok)
Single Player problems
Extra Battles?
Daily Challenges? (aka targets)
Subpar tutorial
Training doesn't save your settings (SF4 ok)
No character specific training options (Vega's claw state etc.)
No option to set stun bars
Quick reset with setting position (MvC3 ok)
Badly implemented ways to record dummy actions (reversals, alpha counters etc.)
Infuriating survival mode - the only way to unlock colors (colors per character, per costume…)
No arcade mode/cpu versus (SF4 ok)
No way to acquire premium costumes still
Visual Problems
Ken's face aka quality of some models is.. questionable
quality of artworks in story mode
stage transitions?
special KOs? (bus, noodles etc)
horrible clipping everywhere (even on character select..)
Communication/CPT problems
no form of tournament mode
only one player has the ability to start a rematch/change characters (SF4 ok)
no clear way to determine who paused the game (?)
CPT rules were MIA for months
no word about Alex version bug
no restart match option?
hold pause option global - should be quick in single player modes
Kof14 looks better
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>>341873505
Constant ragequitters. Once I got over 2k points, the amount of quitters was insane. I was getting someone quitting at least one out of five matches.
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>>341874718
wait, the title isn't OHOHOHO? the fuck
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They developed the game to be balanced instead of fun
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i dont play poverty fighting

unless SC2 on dolphin counts
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>>341873505
>Why did you stop playing SFV, /v/?

In no particular order
- Russian roulette netcode
- no region search makes lobbies a complete pain
- 8f delay is a joke
- neutral game is boring because shit buttons and bad walkspeeds
- jumpins are too strong
- Mika and Cammy
- can't find a fitting character (Juri is most likely my last chance this season)
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Game reminds me of starcraft 2. They spent so much effort making it competitive that that they overdid it. Now you've got a game with only 1 playstyle.
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>>341874924
>>341874847
thank you r/kappa
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No one i want to main/like playing as. I'd really like honda, deejay or blanka.
My friends find it boring compared to SFIV and MK9 and just dont want to play V over those two options.
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>>341875069
Jesus, this so much. I fucking hated SFIV (because I couldn't plink) but I could still have fun fighting friends and sometimes people online. In SFV, it just feels like every fight is going through the motions, even when I lose. My flame reignites for two weeks when they drop new characters, then instantly burns out once I realize the game is back to square one with content.
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>>341875431
>MK9
lies, no one plays that any more, or even years before mkx came out
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>>341875527
my friends are casuals. to be honest I'm kind of casual too when it comes to fighting games, since SFV comes out i've barely been mustering the passion to play anything beyond the odd fightcade novelty game.

Karnovs Revenge and Alpha 2.
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>>341874912
This, Revelator is so much fun.
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>>341875703
if i could convince my friends to learn that i'd be way better off. It looks fun but the weebery is too much for them.
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>>341874334
nice bait
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>>341873505
Only played couch with friends but we dropped it cause the game can't even have a simple base option of infinite timer matches
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>>341873505
It doesn't feel like a Street Fighter game.
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>>341875930
Why would this be an issue? Do you regularly time out your friends?
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>The characters are too similar!
t. scrub who couldn't break into Silver

No seriously, it's so weird seeing players who are far away from grasping the game to its fullest making statements like these.
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>>341873505
>payed $60 for game on release
>payed $30 for season pass
>payed $235 for a fightstick
>payed $80 for a fightstick for my friend

Got 60 hours out of it and and as a super bronze player, I get matched with super silvers in ranked. I haven't won a game in probably a month. I haven't seen another bronze as long as I can remember.

This is ultimately what I deserve for preordering. I will never do it again. I learned my lesson.

I'm not even mad, I improved my game from literal shit, to slightly less shitty. My community has no FGC. This ride is over for me.

/v/ learn from my mistake, do not ever pre-order a multiplayer based game
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>>341876036
It's more of a street fighter game than 4 was
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>>341876262
This.

If you hate SFV, you never liked Street Fighter.
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>>341874334
Accurate
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>>341876249
mate.
I did a pre-order too when the beta rolled around i got a bad feeling so i cancelled. Bought the game a while later and yeah. just wasn't feeling it so I gave up.

>>341876350
Sorry man. I just prefer ST that's all i think of when I think street fighter but you're right. I love that game and Alpha 2 but other than that I dont think i can say I love street fighter.

Alpha 3 makes me sick and SF3 is okay but i wouldn't choose it.
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>people shat on USFIV at every turn while it was still the go-to fighting game (but played it anyway)
>everyone praises it now for being the best thing since sliced bread
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>>341876262
No
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>>341876242
Literally every character in the game is

>jump in
>get knockdown
>ride momentum until you win

Even fucking dhalsim is rushing you down in this game.
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>>341873505
Bad. It's bad
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>>341876050
Some people get really anxious when they see a timer on-screen. I'm not one of those people so I don't really get it myself, I just know it happens.
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>>341876350
bullshit, neither alpha nor third strike had this stupid stale combos, like any match I get retards spamming the same 2 combos over and over, there's no variety, no creativity, just repeat the same internet combo voer and over again, who ever gets hit confirm 2 times and doesn't fuck up wins like 90% of the time.

In previous titles you could be a spammer, or a parry master, or just get lucky, in here button mashers get punished so bad it's not even funny, so your fucking argument doesn't make sense at all, this game revolves around repeating combos, previously they weren't 100% that so fuck off with that statement.
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i started getting a bug where would have to restart my pc every time i wanted to use my stick. this enraged me enough to just forget about playing for a while. then a month or two later i remember that i actually own the game, and now i'm only getting matched with people that are just flat out better than me in every single way
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>>341876674
desu you could play super aggressive dhalsim in ST man
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>>341876574
>People Defend USF4 with their dying breath as the perfect game
>Same people shit on USF4 now that SFV has been released and instead defend SFV
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>>341876674
>get anti-aired by someone who isn't an idiot
>hard knockdowns don't exist anymore, so you reset to neutral
>momentum can easily be broken by using a V-Reversal
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>>341876262
>actual zoning
>footsies weren't just sweeping
>characters with different playstyles

IV is more street fighter than V. V is like a game born out of the collection of FGC memes about what it wants in a game.
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>>341873505
Shit production quality, the whole thing is an affront to the customer.
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>>341876350
You know there's about 20 iterations of Street Fighter that predate SF4, right?
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>>341876737
>spamming the same 2 combos over and over
Wanna know how I can tell you're a scrub?
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I just can't really find anyone I enjoy playing, Laura is almost fun but really I just want makoto back
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>>341876737
>hurr durr what is optimization
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>>341876574
>USF4
>best

I'm looking back with more nostalgia than I would have imagined but nah son, fuck those hard knockdowns and dive kicks and ultras. Somewhere between SF4 and SFV there is a goat Fighting Game to be made but neither 4 or V are it.
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>>341873505
Shit production quality, the whole thing is an affront to the customer.

Nothing works properly, everything looks cheaply designed and they made shit design decisions like "intentional" 8 frames of input delay.

Even good core gameplay cant save this mess of a game when i have to look at a billion screens between two matches and have lots of bloated unnecessary waiting times.
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>>341874012
>The community is so dead the only thing high skilled players have left to do now is pick the wings off flies.

Even during release I was fighting people LEAGUES ahead of me. The match making is just broken, it isn't the player count.
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>>341876050
Some of them likes to turtle and some likes this so they can solve the turtling like a puzzle. Timer ruins this
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The shitty netcode

Adding useless target combos

Lack of proximity normals

Every char has only two combos

8 frame buffer

Roster is bad, way too many people can't find a char they like or they are just picking the closest they can

Not being able to cancel of normals that you should be able to

Playing this game longer than an hour is a chore, a good example is poongko streaming nonstop practicing things like RSF, and grinding matches, now he gets bored way too easily

Vskill and crush counter are stupid and pointless mechanics, moving a special to that and there already is counter hits, no reason for it to exist

There is no reason for there not to be chip kills, I know casuals love it not being in the game but it creates fake hype with shitty comebacks and stupid situations. Being able to only chip kill with supers is racist against grapplers
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>>341873505

>Game has been "simplified for a wider audience" aka casuals who just want to mash buttons
>Slow as shit movement and walk speed
>Huge floaty jumps with next to no horizontal range
>Tiny ranged normal's
>Tiny hitboxes on everything
>Normal's have a shitty priority system
>Throws are slow as shit with no range
>Links are gone and combos are now mashable
>Huge buffer window
>No close standing attacks
>No neutral jump attacks
>Dizzy making people fall out of combos
>Game is full of comeback mechanics desinged to "lower the effectivness of player skill"
>Only super can chip kill
>V-Trigger a huge universal buff you get as a rewarded for losing
>V-Reverasl a get out of jail free you are rewarded with for losing
>Receve less damage the less health you have
>Worst roster in a street fighter game to date fan favorites replaced with characters no one wanted like birdie and rmika
>Risk/Reward is skewed due to high damage from jump ins yet pitifully low damage on anti airs and how you can no longer get large damage punishes from a jab
>Huge amounts input lag
>Constant fps loss on ps4 and high end PC's
>Random input drops
>Dumbed down mechanics
>Top players already saying the game is casual garbage
>P2W
>Game literally released in an unfinished state
>Online doesn't work correctly
>No punishment for rage quitters
>lobbies that dont even work most of the time with no flags or ping
>error 40002
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V system: Severely lacking in complexity and technicality. There's really no variation in what it can be used for. V-trigger is used as either a ghetto hit confirm to extend a combo (usually into some ridiculous 60-70% CA finisher that is extremely easy to execute) or to make a bad poke safe. V-skill is a glorified one button special... let's not fool ourselves it being any more than that. V-reversal is a neat idea but it's very limited in what you use it for.
Jab Fighter V: One argument against 4 was the usage of jabs into high damage combos. Now you have a game where wake-up jab is an extremely powerful option, jabs xx special/vtrigger xx CA pretty much occurs every match, and jabs are a more viable anti-air/prevents crossups better than antiair specials.
Characters: The characters are boring. They all play very similar. There's barely any variation in their gameplay. All of them are 'different', but the way Capcom has developed balance has simply resulted in a very homogenized cast who generally are aiming for the same thing: easy to land CA links.
Combo variation: There is none. Flat out. Every character plays the same way. Each character has 3-4 BnB combos and that's it. It's extremely repetitive, no player can make their character their own, and they all look the same. Whereas in 4, you could see massive differences between a player's character, ie. Poongko vs Dashio's Seth, Bonchan vs Ryan Hart's Sagat, Daigo vs Ghandi's Ryu.
Gameplay: Overall, it's OK. I mean, it gets monumentally boring far quicker than 4 ever did. It has a decent base but it's not like creating a fighting game base is difficult. But come on, the highest level SF4 was leaps and bounds hyper than what we're currently seeing in SFV. Yea, yea, yea 4 had years to develop, blah blah blah.
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>>341876994
>The match making is just broken
I never understand this complaint.

So you're matched up against someone who ranks much higher than you. Where's the harm in playing anyway? You have nothing to lose, only a couple of points maybe, while he will lose roughly one hundred. Plus, you get to witness a high ranking player first-hand.

>Oh no, my delusion of being the best is now forever shattered!
Just man the fuck up. You will never get better if you play people who are worse than you.
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>>341876574
USF4 was better than AE, but that's about it.

Although I wasn't one of the people shitting on it. I didn't think it was taking SF4 in the right direction... but I'll take it over 5.
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>>341873505
I would fap every time after only 1 match so I had to stop.
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The truth is, regardless of whether you thought vanilla 4 was crap, the FADC system was already versatile - you could cancel into longer combos, you could cancel normals, you could use it to attack, you could use it to defend, you could use it to escape, and you could use it to build meter. But it also had a risk to it. Pros by the end were punishing unsafe DP FADC's (Ultra), great players were reading telegraphed focus backdashes and getting punished for it, etc. SFV is just... boring. It doesn't have enough mobility for professionals to truly spread their wings. It's limiting.
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>>341873505
https://www.twitchdottv/capcomfighters

Cuz I got to watch this.
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>>341877263
some folk dont want to get better
they want to be shit all their lives DONT YOU GET THIS?

>>341877348
yo and you know what, the juggle potential on things allowed for some really freeform shit (as much as i've ever seen in SF outside of using custom combo)
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>>341874334
Oldest bait picture.
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>>341877205
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/filename/its%20for%20people%20who%20feel%20like%20they%20cant%20play%20fighting%20games.jpg/
>84 results


Will you ever get tired of this shit? We have passed the point where this has become full-fledged autism. It might actually be something more disturbing.
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>>341874334
Why is SC3 shit?
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>>341877348
fadc is a shitty rc
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>>341873505
>kept getting too pissed off over it
>lack of mic support in lobbies pisses me off
>Ryu shitters literally need to kill themselves
>Overwatch came out

I didn't actually stop, I just haven't touched it since Overwatch has been out. I'll probably be back once they release the story mode and Ibuki.

Also, I mostly play it at my third shift job and I tend to get loud when shit gets heated in this game. We actually got noise complaints that I'm pretty sure had to do with me swearing at the TV at 3 in the morning.
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Shit launch
Not enough free time to be worth it
Gf didn't me a stick for my birthday and my DS3 is fucked
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>>341877571
There is nothing wrong with it, go complain about all the now the dust has settled and other autistic posts.

>>341877607
No shit
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>>341874334
Even this list won't help Capcom anymore. Can anyone fill me why Sony had to fund SFV, was the company doing bad?
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>>341877662
>once they release the story mode

I don't play fighting games but holy fuck is this real
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>>341877585
If you dont already know then you probably dont know how to play fighting games
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>>341877701
Who says I don't complain about those either?

I'm pretty sure you have been banned for spamming on multiple occasions and yet you keep coming back.
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>>341873505
Despite my amazing connection quality, 90% of my matches featured that horrific rollback netcode, and often resulted in me hitting the opponent with a solid punish, only to have the game suddenly freak out and show that it was actually I who was being hit with something. The game was quite literally lying to me, and it makes it so I am unable to read my opponent OR improve myself.
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I refuse to play until all of the characters are out.
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>>341877348
> pros took 8 years and two complete system changes to utilize FADCs well
> they all used it the same way anyways until Elena fighter 4 broke everything
> meanwhile you can watch top tier pros play Karin and see them all play her differently
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>>341877812
I don't care about story in fighting games either, but if they're going to release a free story mode, it's not like I'm not going to play it. Besides, I enjoy story modes in fighting games sometimes, especially in MK, which I hear SFs story is supposed to be like.
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>>341877883
>he gonna play SFV only in 2022
kek
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>>341877883
>business model which releases one character a month
>Capcom confirmed despite the rocky launch, we're getting another season of characters at the very least
Such a statement is full-on stupidity. You'd be starting when everybody else is already much better than you, but chances are you never intended to compete anyway.
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>>341877923
this is bait
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>>341878152
You've got shitty reads.
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>>341877824
I'm well aware of that.

But SC3 is one of the only games on the list that I actually played. Just curious about what makes it crappy.

I imagine since I could actually play it marginally well, that means it's junk for actual competition.
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>>341877662
Another thing, I hate how combo-centric SFV is. I liked how SFIV was less focused on combos and more on strategy. There's too many shitter combos that really ruin the game for me. I tolerate it, but still, I think USFIV was the best one.
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>>341876242
They have a point though. How many projectile absorbs are in the game? How many characters have shit walkspeeds and how many instead got godlike dashes? How many characters have bullshit jumpins that even pros can't anti-air consistently? How many characters have heavy pokes that are slow as all fuck and how many medium pokes are either low damage or have shit range while rushing in and landing just one CH or CC combo is way more rewarding?
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>>341877263
Because it's more fun to play against someone closer to your skill than to play a match where the outcome is practically preordained?
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because it should have released like end 2016 or early 2017 instead and it would've been much better and capcom are lazy cunts who won't even fix their netcode. the gameplay is actually fun but jesus christ capcom, I'll just stick with guilty gear for now.
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>>341878269
Are you literally a retard?
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>>341877741
Google "capcom running out of money."

Also:

http://www.eventhubs.com/news/2013/oct/19/capcom-doesnt-have-resources-next-generation-fighting-game-currently-ono-responds-kickstarter-suggestion/
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>>341878256
The game was horrendously broken, Variable Cancel glitch made the game unplayable.

the game was rushed and was released in an unfinished buggy state.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sd8rWl9fQWY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaMlTjouRtc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jqd7xrHpfYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Re7ehvCTT4E
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHhy_UXJaks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCyi-88wUYY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BmHx-K15yZI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EfRNQu9o1Bk
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5UVIxcuvpA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwZSrXv5LW0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MnUfDTVmQr4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBuidfTqPUs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGDDl5SzQfk

Also the game could wipe memory cards at random.
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>>341878410
What are you talking about?
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I don't give a shit what people say, Zangief is annoying as fuck.

>st. jab is a godlike anti-air that even reaches behind him
>most Giefs mash cr. jab whenever you get close
>light SPD range is still absurd
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>>341878269
>I liked how SFIV was less focused on combos and more on strategy
You wanna know how I know you never played SFIV?
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ive come to realize i dont like fighting games
at all
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>>341878490
>Play Alex
>s,mp them cr.jabs
>get flash
>mixup
>zangief rolls over dead
ez
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>>341878269
>SFV is combo-centric
>SFIV was more about strategy
Speaking as someone who has put over 1.200 hours into SFIV: WHAT?!
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>>341878525
I did. Do you really think SFIV was combo centric like SFV or the other SF games? I can safely say that I never used complex combos for the life of me and managed to maintain a 3k online record.
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>>341876796
>>get anti-aired by someone who isn't an idiot
Except not only are you being cockblocked by muh 8 frames. But because the anti air damage is so low (almost no juggle AAs and you best option is usually jab), while they will be able to get some 600 damage v-trigger -> super combo. And because grounded normals are so fucking slow (even a medium punch will get you jumped in on) that you're better off opting out of most footsies situations.

>>hard knockdowns don't exist anymore, so you reset to neutral

No instead you have crush counter. Which even activates on a whiffed throw. Meaning that you're often better off getting thrown 3 times instead of getting hit once. You can't even play the intended wakeup game.
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>>341877205
I remember watching a documentary about people who, due to lack of other responsibilities, would see every single new movie in theaters. One guy, a mentally handicapped dude who inherited a bunch of money and cataloged every movie he's seen, reminds me of posters like these. I don't mean to put them down, but I can't imagine the singlemindedness needed to post the same images with the same filenames and the same posts in every related thread. Who could possibly hate a video game enough to devote so much time to vigilantly be on the look out for any related thread and post the same responses over and over? At least watching movies is usually fun, but I can't imagine anyone drawing any satisfaction from this.
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>>341878525
If he means that pure zoning and the midrange game were far more effective in SF4, he's not wrong... though that wasn't really the case by the time you got to USF4. Still more than 5, though.
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>>341878723
>Do you really think SFIV was combo centric like SFV or the other SF games
>or the other SF games
Aside from A3, you better be fucking joking you nigger.
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>>341874334
Switch Alpha 3 and CVS 2.
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>>341878808
>someone made a documentary about people who go to the movies as a hobby

Do people actually enjoy this mundane garbage?
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>>341877263
>So you're matched up against someone who ranks much higher than you. Where's the harm in playing anyway?

I never said I hated it, I was just proving to that other Anon that you were constantly matched up with high ranked players long before the game became "dead".
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>>341878808
How much of a brain dead retard do you have to be to think typing out a few lines is hard or time consuming?
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>>341878867
SFV's zoning is kinda shitty, but the footsies are there for both games. But the problem with what he said is that SFV is more combo centric than SFIV, which is factually incorrect.
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>>341878449
Well that's a hell of a lot more than I ever knew about the game.
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>>341878870
I'm serious. I didn't even know there were actually people who disagreed. SFV is combocentric as fuck. If you aren't using strong combos you're going to get raped.
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>>341878430
I only decided to jump to SF train when V came out in wait for Tekken 7. Shame since I like it but probably because I'm still a scrub and SF fans hate it.
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>>341878749
>Except not only are you being cockblocked by muh 8 frames
If I botch an AA, it's usually more of a matter of fucking up the timing or using the wrong button. Parading muh 8 frames around like it's an excuse needs to stop.

>almost no juggle AAs
Juggle AAs were always a rare exception. Some characters still have theirs, like Ryu.

>No instead you have crush counter.
Get better reads.
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>>341873505
I'm waiting for Super Street Fighter V aka the complete game. Thank you for beta testing, anon.
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>>341874334

This top tier is fucked, only ST, 3S, 98 and MvC2 deserve to be there
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>>341874334
>Bloody Roar

NEW GAME NEVER EVER
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>>341879106
Looks fine to me
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but i didn't stop.i play it every day. currently in love with necalli but can't wait to finally get ibuki
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>>341876574
It's literally what happened with 3S to SF4
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Reminder that 8 frames of input delay removes footsies and strategy from the game and basically turns it into a mashing slugfest

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CBEVIDwge0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwalITH_cGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap369ES-6Xw
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>>341879245
>Eventhubs article said Ibuki can trap you mid-screen like you're in the corner playing against R. Mika
Kill me.
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>>341874334
I agree but Rising thunder should be moved to the "Dead as Fuck" tier
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I got a job and have less time to play video games.
Even if that didn't happen I doubt I would be playing it right now though.

Just something about the game for me, it was really fun at first, but it just got boring after a few weeks.

I don't know what to play now.
KoF14 is probably too hard.

Tekken 7 looks really nice, but I was always more into Soul Calibur, but I'll still give it a go.

Injustass 2 is not coming out for a year.
I liked the base gameplay of Injustice 1, and this looks very similar, but that gear shit is a big turn off.

I don't know Melty Blood?
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>>341879023
>SFV combos
>MP variation into special
>MP variation linked into MP variation into special
>Punish button into V-trigger into special cancel button into special into super
You absolutely don't need strong combos in SFV to deal solid damage aside from like special cancels and your punish combo, which are short as fuck. In SFIV 70% of your damage came from long as fuck combos (past vanilla). See; Sakura, Seth, Gen, Guy, Yun, Yang, Elena, E. Ryu, Akuma, Cody, Rog etc.
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>>341879419
the bomb is going to be fun. i think at certain life percentages it can create nigh unwinnable scenarios
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>>341879379

Reminder that this is a 3f difference from SF4 and confirmed to be a deliberate design choice by the devs.

Reminder that this is the latest excuse people like you will cling to in order to justify their lack of skill, even though you would never in a million years have realized this if it wasn't a hot topic in the news.
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>>341874334
>naruto storm
>trash tier

That why(storm 4) is a way better game than SFV, right?
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>>341879740
Funny thing is: The 8 frame input delay has been known since the betas, but people only began to pick up on it after Snake Eyez mentioned it. Before that it didn't seemed to bother anyone.
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How does it feel being more mentally weak than a tranny?

https://twitter.com/HelloKittyRicki/status/741917542470451200
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>>341879379
>people ask capcom what's the deal with the 8 frame delay
>capcom goes "we'll look into it"
>days later the lead designer says it was made on purpose to imitate tekken for online purposes
>he makes no mention that they would ever fix it

If anything that's what made not give a fuck about SFV anymore
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>>341880005
Based Ricki.
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>>341879948
Nope people have been complaining about input delay since the beta, max even made a video about it
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>>341880048
>implying they asked the very same person
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>>341879679
>SFIV 70% of your damage came from long as fuck combos (past vanilla)

This is bullshit, and the characters you named don't even apply at all. It's like you've never been caught in an R Mika combo.
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>>341880223
He said he noticed a delay, not that the game is unplayable because of it. Learn the difference.
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>>341880258
I think the point was that Capcom doesn't know what's going on inside their own company.
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>>341879679
>solid damage
so unoptimal when you could have gotten a bigger and/or more damaging combo?
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>>341880293
resets aren't combos you idiot.
sf4 had actual long combos that required skill and hard work, and a lot of them were completely different.
sf5 every character has ONE combo that everyone only uses that take 2 mins in training mode to figure out.
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>>341880440
Chances are they asked some random helpdesk employee who has no insight into the game, unlike the very person who helped creating it. What kind of response do you expect other than "We'll look into it"?
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>>341880293
>R. Mika combo
>Irish Whip into thing (anti air, EX Ass or setup)
>button into special
>button into vtrigger into button (ASS-ist drops in) special
No, most of her stupid damage comes from setups homie, and those characters absoulutely apply, except MAYBE Akuma because he strong as fuck regardless
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TTT2 is currently free and has more content and better netcode than SFV.

That's why.
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>>341880474
You could have, but most of the long, long combos are from a punish button or a random CC, see; Guile. Those MP combos are most commonly used in neutral unless you're someone like Karin or Nash
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>>341880708
A shame nobody plays it.

Used to be a Tekkenfag myself and I don't get why you shower TTT2 with praise. I'd rather play T5DR.
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>>341880476
>sf5 every character has ONE combo that everyone only uses that take 2 mins in training mode to figure out.

Not necessarily a good one. Are you telling me you could do well without using combos? What's your LP?
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>>341880005
>defending 8 frames

Everyone already adapted that plays the game. Still makes the game feel and play like shit
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>>341880708
And it's also available on more platforms.
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Eight frames

My attack will come out in 8 frames
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>>341873505
dropped sf5 3 weeks in after reaching 6k lp.
went back to sf4 and loving every match.
sf4 has so much variety.
sf5 is just so damn boring to play and watch
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>>341880005
Look I don't think people should just drop SF5 forever until the input delay gets fixed, but I don't understand the apologism over it. What's the HARM in fixing the input delay and bringing it down to a more acceptable standard? They're just afraid of adapting to a new meta and having more trouble against players who have fast reaction times and execution skills that aren't being bottlenecked by the input delay anymore. Fuck that. People looove the "LOL DUDE JUST ADAPT" meme when it means getting used to the shittiness of a new game at launch and never having to change, but they hate it when they have to readapt to that same game again.
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>>341873505
I kinda lost interest.
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>>341873505
The online (on pc at least) still has so many random games with rollback lag independent of the quality of the connection. Even if 4 matches out of 5 are smooth the anger that comes from losing the 5th vs a shitter because of roll back just ruins it.
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>>341880930
Not him, but I do okay without big combos aside from stun and button xx special. Most of my wins come from pokes, anti airs, and command grabs

3200 lp, not great, but it's something
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>>341881007
Kek
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>>341881032
I call bullshit.
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>>341880828
or Laura, or Bison or someone who understand the game and doesn't generalise
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>>341880930
i said the majority of sf5 characters have 1 optimal combo that gets used 99% of the time.
compared to sf4 it's a joke
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>>341873505
no Hakan and his Waifu
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>>341881159
i mained mika, it wasn't hard
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>>341881337
Not just that.

The statement that you can find matches in SFIV. It's dead.
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>>341881164
>I can't read
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>>341881058

Because the input delay has been confirmed by the devs to be exactly where they want it. This is for the purpose of encouraging intelligent rather than reactive play, and of smoothing online matches. Since both fighters have the same amount of delay, a player with faster reactions/reflexes will still have the edge.

You honestly just sound crazy salty.
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>>341881435
it's definitely hard to find ranked, but i just play endless with friends. a lot of people don't like sf5
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>>341881567
>This is for the purpose of encouraging intelligent rather than reactive play
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA
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There isn't a lot of zoning options like in IV so I don't really care for it, there's even more derp mash mixups in V
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>>341880708
Having to learn how to do korean back dashing to even attempt to play the game makes me not want to ever touch Tekken.
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>>341881567
that's daft.
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>>341881567
>his is for the purpose of encouraging intelligent rather than reactive play, and of smoothing online matches.
Topkek

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3CBEVIDwge0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwalITH_cGY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ap369ES-6Xw
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>>341881801
What you saying you don't like Mika mixups? You don't like because touched once then Unga'd to death? You don't like having 2 (two) dedicated zoners and one of them is garbage?
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>>341881786
>>341881931

Shitpost all you want but those are the facts. Take it or leave it; put the game down, return it to gamestop if you want.

Literally no one cares.
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>>341881786
>responds to a logical statement with greentext and a reaction image
You sure showed him.
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>sony ruined SF
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>>341873505
I stopped playing because its boring compared to USF4 & other recently released games
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>>341874847
The shit neycode on its own is enough to give SFV a pass.
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>>341881976

Reposting the same youtube videos over and over (>>341879379) to try and forward an argument that you yourself cannot even properly articulate without the aid of said videos is getting old.
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>all thoses Giefs owning at dreamhack


feels nice to watch
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>>341881567
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0
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>>341881058
What you are doing is like complaining that the game is broken cause you can't do a dp

The game was made to be this way, so learn it or more on and stop complaining for months on end. It isn't getting fixed cause it isn't broken
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>>341882347
>being so mad you need Youtube videos to do the talking
lel
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>>341882080
>him
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>>341882347

HILARIOUS memery devoid of even a shred of insight, or even a modicum of a contribution to the conversation at large.

Good job.
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>>341881976
>BUT IT MEANS I HAVE TO PLAY A CERTAIN WAY
yes, yes it does. Deal with it
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>>341882476
Or you could just stop playing and play any of the other numerous fighting games that are out.
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>>341882521
He replied to you in a different post. Check the posting time.

I'm not him and think you're an idiot. Weirder things have happened.
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>>341882627
And yet here you are, flocking every Street Fighter thread instead of playing all those other "superior" games.
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>>341882627
But I don't like them and want to play SFV.

If 8 frames of lag is the determining factor if you play a game then play another and stop complaining, we all know it is there now and that some dislike it
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>>341882795
This is actually the first Street Fighter thread I've been in since Guile released.
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>>341882876
Suuure. :^)

Just like this guy >>341877205
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Never stopped. Always Devour-our.
Learned some mean meatie setups and refined anti-airs.

It's beneficial to take a break.
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>>341882578
>Deal with it
No, no i wont "deal with it" id rather just play a game that's not shit and doesn't force 8 frames of input delay into the game.
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>>341882971
No I'm being serious. I'm just hoping they don't completely fuck up Juri or Urien so I have a reason to start playing again. It's a long wait for Tekken.
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>>341883025
Then go away already, we don't care about the lag
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>>341882972
Necalli is so cool, I honestly think sfv has the best set of new comers, even Fang grew on me
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>>341882972
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>>341883089

Nah anon, he'd rather spend his time throwing tantrums on anonymous image boards
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>>341883089
>we
Speak for yourself
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>>341882972
:^)
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I stopped playing SFV because...
>netcode is still shitty/finding a match is shitty
>no arcade really sucks when trying to learn a new character
>no any other game modes
>8 fucking frames of lag
>I was having more fun with Killer Instinct
>Xrd Revelator came out which is also really good
>because I was getting more angry at what a disappointment the game was as a whole than having fun with it
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>>341883086
You're right about that.

>out in arcades for months
>still have to wait to early 2017
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>>341883220
I love em all except Laura, she's just kinda boring to me. I think SFIV had stronger newcomers because Hakan is literally the best character to come out of this franchise
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>>341883440
Well I guess I'd rather wait for it to be solid than have another SFV release. Here's hoping they mean like January or February when they say early 2017.
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>>341883465
It also had Abel, Seth and Rufus some of the worst and most boring. At least Laura is cute especially in her battle costume
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>>341873505
because I never won a single match online
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>>341883526

The humor of these types of images comes, for me, from the thought of the sweating neckbeard who took the time to make them, autistically scouring the internet for pics, sitting in soiled underwear in a dark room, drooling with anticipation as he uploads his SO FANNY MEME to the internet with expectations of applause.
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>>341883880
projecting much?
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>>341883880
I mean most of those images are from like one place. Of all them it's probably the laziest one I've seen.
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>>341883994

Why, no, but thanks for asking.
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>>341882086
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>>341883880
The guy didn't even do his research.

The game sold more than three times as much as stated, but he keeps posting that image to shitpost regardless.
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>>341884107

memes > facts, anon
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>It's a /v/ discuses fighting games episode
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>>341877263
Yeah, because I can totally figure out what to do when a Muhammad player gets his 57 hit combo of tornado ass bullshit on me. If I can't fight people around my skill first, I can never get down any of the skills I have been trying to learn.
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SFV is over after story mode hits.
Outside of the FGC there is no reason to play.
I played SF with a friend who dropped it after 3 weeks.
I haven't picked it up since early May because there is no way to improve your game as a bronze shitter. It's just getting stunlocked and watching your opponent dial-a-combo. As I said before here, >>341876249
this is the least accessible fighting game I've ever played.

>tfw me and budz played super turbo/ soul calibur 2 / tekken 3 for years
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Threadly reminder that no mainline SF game featuring Sakura in it has ever failed desu.
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>>341884776

You are garbage at the game and coming up with excuses rather than considering your own faults and improving your game. Nobody cares that casuals such as yourself drop the game after getting blown up, its to be expected.
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>>341873505
Because laggers are in gold tier because they live on 3rd world internet and warp all over the fucking place making it impossible to hit them.

That and the game is just shit hopefully this kills the Street fighter series since Both USF4 and SFV were shit.
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Because i spent so much time practicing and i'm still bronze. I haven't played it lately because i finally accepted the fact that i'm a loser that is never meant to succeed.
I might try it again after the story mode update so i can try Urien
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>>341873923
You live in Nippon or a Kiwi?
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>>341884258
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>>341884107
Games shipped =/= games sold
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>>341885556
Capcom talked about unit sales, so...
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>>341873505
Overwatch happened
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>>341885161
And you're the reason why the FGC is ever shrinking. Fuck you, keep your toxic shitty game.
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>>341875703
>Dead anime sprite figher number 86

You guys are the worst faggots of the genre. I bet all my miney that the fucking match making is dead in the water and it takes ages to find a ranked match

Lobby matches dont count worth shit because it isnt fun to watch a 2 pros in a single lobby stomp on all the new comers


Dont even get me started on the abosolute shit netcode.
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>>341885784
>sprites
eyyy
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>>341885190

I hate to tell you anon but you're probably practicing the wrong things and developing bad habits in the process - i.e., trying to memorize combos and then being unable to pull them off in a match because you never got a handle on your fundamentals.

If it's any consolation, no matter how good you get, there will always be others who are better and who are worse. Gold or bronze, you win some, you lose some. The enjoyment comes not from winning but from the development of your skills as an individual.
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>>341885670
But SF has better waifus.
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>>341885784
The netcode is fucking fantastic, the matchmaking itself is bugged right now, but there is a decent amount of people still playing it cause it just came out.
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>>341885784
The netcode's actually really good, most of my matches had 3-4 frames network input delay with the worst case being 7-8. Of course, you wouldn't know since you don't play it.

>sprites
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>>341885740
>toxic
lol

The thing is: People would be helping you if you posessed enough honesty to admit to yourself that you're bad at the game, but instead you come up with all those excuses.

Ego is rampant in the FGC, but actual assholes are surprisingly rare. If you genuinely want to improve, you will find enough people to help you with that goal through advice or by sparring. You waltz in, wave your tiny dick around and act like you're the most important person in the room, people will tell you to fuck off. And rightfully so.
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>>341885625
Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bl5iufS84AE
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>>341885740

The FGC and fighting games in general were HUGELY stagnant pre SF4 - I would actually venture to say that the genre is undergoing a renaissance since then with SFV, GG, KI, MK etc all coming to the mainstream.

You continue to show your bad attitude which is the reason you're losing - but if you're throwing around terms like 'toxic', you should honestly stay away from 1v1 competitive games anyways.
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>>341885915
They only have one good momfu and no good waifus
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Mostly because of rage quitters and I'm pretty meh at it. Got my silver and then stopped playing. When I do hop on I just do casual matches. I've beat so many golds only to be denied my points because capcom cant come up with a competent system to deal with RQ.
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>>341886172
>Max knows better than Capcom
Okay.

>linking Max in the first place
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>>341886172
>That time he said you couldn't play Ken offensively in SFV
lol, just lol
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>>341886287
>This level of damage control after getting BTFO
lmao

ded game is ded
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>>341873505
Because I realized it's a F2P game that costs $60.
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>>341874334
> SF X Tekken
> Above Trash

but why
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>>341886482
>I take the word of people who clearly don't know what they're talking about to prove a negative bias
Alrighty.
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>>341885882
>fundamentals
See, that's what i thought i was practicing, stuff like dping on reaction to a jump in, zoning people out with my longest reaching normals, blocking and punishing attacks.
It's just that everyone i play against is always better than me.
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>>341886670
>>I take the word of people who clearly don't know what they're talking about
But im not taking your word for it at all
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>>341876249
I'm not sure what region you live in, but I just got done with uni and picked it up to actually sit down and practice before evo and playing ranked for the first time I was able to match with bronze players all the way through it with less than 2 minutes wait time inbetween. You should check again
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>>341886864
Except those weren't my words, but Capcom's. Meanwhile, you're a literal who citing nobodies as your source.
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i really want to
but its hard i get shat on by people left and right and im not dedicated enough to perfect my combos because there never seems a good opportunity to execute them
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>>341887129
Capcom only gives out the number of units shipped you retard.
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It's shit and everyone basically agrees its shit (shitters,casuals,amateurs and pros).

Honestly this June update isn't going to save it.
SFV is as good as dead after evo/capcom cup imo.
Your time is better spent learning a different fighting game.
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>>341887326
>unit sales = units shipped
Okey-dokey.
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>>341887425
units shipped =/= units sold
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no updates to the game plus guilty gear just came out. Will pick it back up when the story update and ibuki are here
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>>341886815

Well, it's impossible to give accurate advice without specifics, but I guarantee that if you uploaded a replay it would be easy to point out where you're going wrong. Watch them yourself and take note of when you're getting hit by the enemy.

If you have anti-airs and pokes down, it sounds like perhaps you've been playing too passively and aren't playing offensively when you should, such as after a knockdown. Once you have offensive momentum going, most people will absolutely crumple at a few mixups. Offense really can be the best defense in this game. But again, it's hard to give advice without seeing replays. You're probably misusing/missing out on some character specific tools as well.
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The only people who shit on SFV are casual scrubs who couldn't adapt.

SFV's problem isn't that it's honest, it's too honest. Players have fewer gimmicks to hide behind and frauds are getting exposed left and right.
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>>341887549
Exactly.

And Capcom was talking about units sold.
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>>341887718
And it turns out an honest fighting game is fucking boring to play and watch.

huh.
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>>341887905
t. scrub shitter
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>>341887145

There are literally only two situations to be using combos: after a jump in, and after a crush counter.

The most important thing is getting a feel for the way your opponent plays and exploiting his habits: this is actually where the meat of the game comes in.

For example, test his anti airs, if an opponent is not on point with them, jump in a lot. Conversely, if they're jumping a lot, focus on anti airs yourself. These 2 examples can win entire games because some opponents will simply not adapt.
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>>341887984
t. silver 09er/16er who thinks he knows shit about fighting games
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>>341887814
No, capcom dont care about actual units sold, they only give numbers for units shipped.

Are you retarded or is this some next level delusion?
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>>341873505
Tired of losing
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>>341887718
>OH BOY I SURE DO LOVE WATCHING THE MATCHUPS PLAY OUT THE EXACT SAME EVERYTIME.

>JAB ANTI AIR EVERYONE. SO HONEST!

>LE GIT GUD SCRUB SHITTER XD
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>>341888183
>Th-they're lying!
Delusion is not a river in Egypt.
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>>341888067
>iterally only two situations to be using combos: after a jump in, and after a crush counter.
Or off a non cc poke you tard which is where you should get your majority
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Because Juri hasn't dropped yet and I can't find anyone on the roster who can give me enough motivation and desire to continue playing otherwise.
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>>341888087
I do know my shit. Unlike you, Bronze scrub.

Post your CFN so we can ridicule you.
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>>341873505
Still playing.

>>341874334
>Bloody Roar and Alpha 3 in Top.
Opinion discarded.
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>>341887718
The "game" revolves around throw mixups, you fucking 09er shitter.
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>>341888249
Damn, you're totally not mad.
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>>341888290
This has to be bait, no one is this much of a retard
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>>341888454
>he can't handle throws
lel
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Ibuki looking slick, may pick her up
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>>341888565
>le bait meme XD
Epic, simply epic.
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>>341888384
Sure add me: DrKongFu cant wait to whoop you bitch ass back to 09.
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>>341888363

Please tell me what moves you consider "pokes" that are capable of being canceled into a special move, let alone "comboing".

You shouldn't act so rude when you literally do not know what you're talking about.
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>>341888441
>Bloody Roar not in Top.
Opinion discarded.
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>>341888790
Do you even know what a poke is? The majority of medium moves are quick enough to be used as one and many have good distance (for sfv). They can be used as pokes and link to shit even if it is just vtrigger to combo

Seriously do you actually think that people only do combos off jump ins and crush counters? Especially in a ground based game like sfv
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>>341888384
you wouldn't be backing out of our match anon? still waiting...
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>>341889963
Sent you an invite, but nothing happened.

Looks like you linked a random profile.
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>>341873505
Waiting for it to be a completed game.
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>>341885670
Pretty much the reason why I stopped. I'll come back when Ibuki patch drops.
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>>341889228

Any move that can be special canceled is not going to be that character's longest reaching normal you moron.

Honestly, you seem like a belligerent retard with no interest in dialogue who just wants to scream into his computer. I wish you realized how everything you're saying literally makes it plain as day that you're a fucking shitter without even a basic grasp of game mechanics, misusing the most basic terminology, and yet somehow you think you're a fucking pro.

You aren't worth even trying to have a conversation with.
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>>341890543
>longest reaching
You realise that the character's longest reaching doesn't not equal their only poke? Especially if that is also too slow or is easily punished meaning that button isn't even a good poke

You don't even seem to realises that characters can have more than one button to poke with
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>>341888381
But she'll be in the story mode. Not balanced either.
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>>341880379
It's not about being unplayable either it's just restrictive. Could I have told you how many frames of input delay there were before someone came up with the exact number? Obviously not. Did I notice I had for some reason more trouble anti-airing, reacting and whiff punishing shit in SFV and that it was easier in SF4? Abso-fucking-lutely.
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>>341888205
PRACTICE MORE
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>>341891882

The thing is though that it's a design choice. Whereas before you could AA or whiff punish on reaction, now you have to be looking/waiting for it more preemptively. Tons of moves in the game have similar timing - you can blow them up if you know it's coming, but they're just fast enough to be unreactable if you weren't expecting it.

Was input delay the best method to accomplish this? Perhaps not.
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>>341892437
>we want to go back to basics and footsies and space control
>lol let's design it so it's harder to do all these things

I mean you can call it a design decision but it's a terrible one and I'm gonna give the game shit for it. You can tell me to git gud if you want but I can choose to just drop the game and wait for KOF or Tekken.
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>>341873505
Guilty is more fun
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>>341891882
And in 4 people couldn't do some combos consistently cause of 1f links, different games have different quirks making some areas weaker or harder to do

The only reason you here so much about sfv's is it's the widest played right now
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Because there is no debth in movesets anymore.

Everyone plays exactly the same regardless of rank since everything is so damn simplified and the meta is R/P/S

>pic related

had way more fun with SFIV and stopped playing SFV a few months ago after hitting super gold with Laura.
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>>341892905
Tekken also has huge input delay.
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>>341873505
i'm waiting for MOTHER FUCKING BALROG COME ON SHITCOMAPMPAOCOM
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>>341893032
>And in 4 people couldn't do some combos consistently cause of 1f links, different games have different quirks making some areas weaker or harder to do

Yeah and everyone applauded Capcom for the 3f input buffer because 1f links are fucking retarded when you're playing online against varying connections.
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>>341892905

Drop away, that's totally fine. Once i got over being frustrated at my AAs being blown up I actually came to enjoy how it changes the pace of the game. The balance of moves being easy to counter if you're looking, but hard to counter if you're not expecting them seems perfect to me and puts the emphasis more on mind games than reflexes.
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>>341883220
Seeing F.A.N.G in the story mode sold me on the character. Laura is by far the best grappler released in a long time.

Compared to vanilla 4, V has the better newcomers. Outside of Viper the new cast was weak.
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because the netcode is awful, i can't play with any of my friends. meanwhile we can play west coast vs. east coast in revelator just fine.
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>>341878918
This was way back when I watched television. It mainly focused on people who would literally see every single new movie shown at theaters because they were usually odd people. It was okay.

>>341878965
What do you mean? He doesn't type it out each time he posts it, I'm talking about the time investment of posting the pasta in every single sfv thread, which is what I find bizarre because it implies he's constantly on /v/.
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Put the cutest fighter back in, Capcom!
Sakura for Season Two!
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I was promised a game with honest characters and gameplay, but they forced 8 frames of lag on the gameplay for literally no reason. As a result, the game turned into a gimmicky shitfest that couldn't hope to have footsies at the level of Ultra.

Right now I play Guilty Gear instead so I don't have to deal with all the bullshit that they put in SFV.
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>>341893262
>Yeah and everyone applauded Capcom for the 3f input buffer
you never used the term before sfv cause you didn't know what it meant
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>>341893734
If you know he posts it in every thread that must mean you are on /v/ 24/7 to see it in every thread
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>>341893878
>Put the cutest fighter back in
But Ibuki is nearly here, please understand
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>>341894280
I have 1200 hours in SF4 and 200 hours in SFV and know my way around Fighting Games but nice try faggot.
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>>341893878
Season 2 pack for cute characters aye. Including Sakura, Ingrid, Maki and some meatheads.
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>>341893878
>dead game
>season two
anon...
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Didn't OP, working may way to gold from Ultra plat
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>>341873505
Cause they censored a lot of the sexy butts and there are no character mods on PC anymore. You get banned if you try to load up the floppy dicks mod for the female characters in an online match.
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>>341895008
>Bison says delicious in the story mode
sasuga combofiend, I hope there are more reference to the old cartoon
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>>341873505

Overwatch came out
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>>341873505
I go through phases with fighting games. I'm not in a fighting game phase at the moment. I still really enjoy the game though.
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>>341895142
no you don't, they don't even ban you for using the survival mode hack
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>>341873505
I went back to playing Melee and I have more fun with that. Doesn't help that Zangief is shit yet again.
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>>341894864
More alive than Furry Instincts in every possible aspect and it's still getting seasons. Capcom already confirmed more characters. See my main Q in season 4.
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>>341895556
>Furry Instincts
It's Killer bitchstink
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>>341874334
kys for thinking ultra sf4 should be that high
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>>341895719
Zelda cycle affects SF as well apparently. Almost up to the day SF5 released SF4 was irredeemable garbage and now it's GOAT.
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When will capcom just stop fucking arownd and release my fucking nigga??
them dash punches tho

www twitch tv/ capcomunity/ v/ 72591242?t= 02h48m33s
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>>341896094
Next month if they don't pull another Ibuki, in that they don't delay or switch around again
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>>341896236
That was only because of Capcom derping with the Zenny shop. Highly doubtful it'll happen again.
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>>341895719
Here's your (you)
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>>341894486
>No triple kicks
>No neck-breaker
>No super-jump
>No over-head leaping kicks

>All this shit replaced with kunai gimmicks and a flying squirrel kite that you can't even do normals out of.

This isn't Ibuki. This is just some really gross impostor wearing her skin. Now I understand how Zangief players feel. It feels really bad, man.
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>>341873505
unfinished piece of shit
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>>341874334
Can we make a real one of these? Without massive bias?

And actually rate them based on how they hold up by today's standards?
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>>341896396
Honestly it tastes delicious. Most people I would feel bad for, but not Ibuki players.
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>>341895409
>yet again
What do you mean by this?
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Before Alex dropped
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>>341896363
play more fighting games before you post other peoples shitty opinions faggot
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>>341896396

She has her neck-breaker, super jump, and overhead kick.
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>>341896396
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>>341896465
Was Andy gay? Why didn't he tap that ass?
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>>341896465
It looks pretty accurate in that regard to me, what would you change?
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>>341873505
Revelator came out
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>>341896649
Post your fightcade ID
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>Be new to SFV
>Bronze player
>Match up against Gold player

Here's two things that happen
>I get royally whooped
OR
>I manage to beat a gold player and they disconnect right before I get victory

After the 6th time I just deleted the game from my hard drive and sold it.
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>>341896659
No, she doesn't. Unless hours of E3 footage are wrong, she doesn't have those moves anymore. Even if they were unique normals, it's still not the same properties. Here's her full moveset:
http://www.eventhubs.com/moves/sf5/ibuki/
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>>341896236
think they only gave us that BITCH because they already gave us two charge characters one after another.

It would be nice if they released him with story mode...
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>>341896548
>Believing the "Ibuki-vortex" meme.

I bet you lost to Deejay's too.

>>341896691
Your filename reminded me of this.
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>>341895357
That costume is bonita, BONITA!
Is this a mod?? I hope its not.Im on console...
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Because nobody I know is as shitty as I am and it is literally not fun getting my ass handed to me and never winning against my friends who do play.
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>>341897416
>implying she didn't have a vortex in ultra
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>>341897416
Nah. I just didn't really find Ibuki fun to play against. Granted I did most of my playing in SSF4 so maybe she was less annoying later.
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>>341897594
>Is this a mod??
yep
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>have always only played SPD characters with long range normals
>Zangief is shit with no range and fucking 5f spds
>literally has to put in ten times the work to get half the reward

It's a shitty game.
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>>341897594
Of course it is. Only costumes console-players are getting are story mode and premium costumes.

>>341897637
She did, but nowhere near the extent she had it in AE or Super. Outside of that, vortex setups were hard as fuck and weren't regularly seen at tourney-level plays. Delayed wake-up only nerfed it more.
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>>341897181

They are unique normals. Her overhead is forward medium, her neckbreaker is her throw, and her super jump is done with the glider. Not the same, but she has them.
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>>341898043
What could they even give Gief in next year's balance patch to make him more viable? A lot of people will say "Green Hand" but I wonder what else could be done before Capcom has to implement and balance an entirely new move against the rest of the cast.
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>>341874334
>SFV not in high tier
Sure as a game its lacking but the actual fighting is solid as fuck
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>>341884427
learn to block faget
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>>341898390
Real talk: Gief is fine as is.
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>>341898406
SF5 won't be good until the day SF6 comes out, then it will have been great all along.
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>>341898161
>vortex setups were hard as fuck and weren't regularly seen at tourney level plays
I'm not gonna say they were braindead, but they were definitely not hard as fuck, and no one sees them at a high tourney play, because Ibuki players for the most part are trash and go into autopilot vortex mode when they get a knockdown, even when a player knows how to effectively deal with it.
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>>341879948
Literally everyone said it "felt weird" the first time they picked it up. They just didn't know why.
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>>341898406
>SFV
>High, tier
No, just no
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>>341898326
>Over head kick

Not that one. I'm talking about her actual special move "Hien." It was performed via backwards DP + kick. The perfect move for punishing fireballs that could be cancelled into super. Would've fit right it like Alex's stomp in SFV.

>Neckbreaker is her back throw

If you honestly don't see the problem here, then it's really not worth wasting time on it.

>Super jump is the glider

Except you can't super cancel, jump cancel, or do anything out of it but kunai (which is the only thing it shares with the original.) And this isn't even considering her lack of triple kicks.
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>>341881567
>intelligent play
>in the game where jump ins are their strongest.
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>>341881994
One of them is garbage and the other isn't even really a zoner.
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>>341899021
Every single person who talks shit on SFV hasn't bought or played it. Every single person I've met/talked to who got SFV agrees that it has a ton of competitive potential and is a great game riddled with capcom's shity practices.
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>>341897416
>Cute goy
Well, it's time for me to stop browsing /pol/.
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It doesn't have anyone I want to play.
Dee Jay when?
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>>341887718
>couldn't adapt

I was playing better from day 1 then I ever was through the entire life of 4. Probably because it's perfectly catered to how I like to play. But I still dropped it out of boredom.
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>>341899192
>Every single person who talks shit on SFV hasn't bought or played it

This has to be bait, no one can be this deluded.

Are you sure you dont work for Capcom?
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Are they going to add Sodom or is it a vain desire at this point?
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>>341899687
Sodom is shit and dead.
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>>341897684
Ibuki is one of those fun-to-fight-as-but-not-fun-to-fight-against characters. It's weird to admit, but wherein most people learned SF through Ryu or Ken, I learned it through Ibuki in SFIII. Her bargaining point to me was how many options and combos she had. She felt like a "playground" of a character where anything I could want to do was possible thanks to her laundry list of command inputs, normals, target combos, dash resets, etc. Hate to see Capcom shit all over her in an attempt to make her more "accessible," seeing as those same players who thought she was too complex before will probably just give up on her again.
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>>341899683
He's right, though.

>LOL SFV HAS ONLY SOLD 400K XD
And yet everybody is an expert on the game. Weird.

At least settle on a story to shitpost with.
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I don't like it because the wakeup game is even more in the favor of the attacker than it was in IV. Because crush counters activate on everything. Wakeup should never be where I would rather eat 3 throws in a row then try to tech it. Not even gimmicky shit either, regular teching.
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>>341899864
That's the impression I get. She doesn't really appeal to me but I can see why people enjoy her. Having said that playing against her is pretty fucking unfun.
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>>341899683
I just pointed out that the game lacks content how am I a shill?
Nobody should buy the game until it gets more content, as a fighting game its fucking solid and I've had tons of fun with it. As a game content wise its really lacking.
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>>341900050
I totally understand. I usually welcome mirror-matches (so I can steal peoples' strategies) but Jesus is it a nightmare to fight a good Ibuki. Do really wonder what type of player she's supposed to appeal to now though if it isn't the six same people that was always played her, including me. Sincerely confused how she got in SFV over Makoto. Wouldn't have even been mad if Makoto got in before Ibuki. Totally understandable.
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>>341900162
Not him, but what do you mean by "more content"?
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>>341900465
Not that guy, bit for me I want more characters. Specifically Hugo and Rufus
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>>341900465
No vs cpu, no story mode, not enough characters, not enough stages
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>>341899929
>he

Make it less obvious next time
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>>341900465
Not that guy, but it lacks a reason to play outside of just the fighting parts. Just take a page out of MKX's book:

>Costume unlocks
>Costume color unlocks (that are humanly possible.)
>Music unlocks
>Gallery unlocks
>World Tour Mode (from Alpha)
>Arcade Mode
>Car-breaker, barrel-breaker, and parry mini-games
>Wacky, fun modes (like MKX's holiday towers and shit.)
>Maybe even a color-editor mode like in a lot of SNK games, and CvS2.

I personally believe the fighting aspect of SFV is fun, but damn if I don't wish there was other things to do in the game when I'm on a losing streak and don't feel like playing online anymore.
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>>341899942
Which characters can throw you that many times in a row (outside of the corner)?
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>>341901460
See, what bothers me about the people complaining is that they're complaining about a 1on1 fighting game. When you play a fighting game, it all comes down to how the matches flow, the back and forth between you and your opponent and how good it feels scoring a hit. The game has 18 characters currently, which is enough to ensure variety in terms of playstyles. Everything else is sure nice to have, but not really mandatory since the game boils down to two players exchanging blows.

I can't shake the feeling that whenever someone complains about the supposed lack of content, what they're really saying is that they hate playing the game just for the sake of playing it.
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>>341901602
Y-you too... Shobu Ja!
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>>341901602
I want her so much for the next batch of DLC.

If this post ends in 8 (like in 8 frames lol), Makoto will be released this year.
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>>341902316
guess you're gonna have to wait faggot.
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>>341902141
Look, paying full price for arcade mode, training mode, and versus might've been enough back in the 90's and most of the 2000's. I understand that because I grew up with arcades and bought home ports of fighting games. But people have moved on. Considering the leaps (in content) that have been made over the years, from Soul Calibur II to Guilty Gear Rev, there's no denying that SFV is behind in regards how much there is to do in the game. It's not that I hate playing SFV with other people, it's that there's nothing to do on my own when I don't want to play with other people. That's the problem, and for a lot of people that don't like playing online or versus, or lack a local scene, there's nothing in this game for them.
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>>341902839
If you mean in damage output in actual games (like SFIII and SFIV,) I don't doubt it. That said, "lore-wise," it's actually Sakura.
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>>341902782

100% correct
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>>341902782
This probably reflects badly on me, but it didn't even occur to me that people played the arcade modes.
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>>341902782
I guess we really disagree then.

To me, if you don't intend to play a fighting game against a real opponent, online or offline, you don't really want to play a fighting game. Not only do you deny the game its purpose, you also don't matter to the vast majority of players who play it first and foremost to compete against others.
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>>341902839
>this shitty pics get posted all the time
Don't you have any more pics of Makoto?
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>>341903329
Not him, but I'll help.
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None for you
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>>341873505
Speaking of SFV, is there a mod to reduce the sizes of a character's hands, especially on females?

Because holy fuck man, I feel like the lead artist has a fetish for big hands.
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>be a reaction-type player
>8f lag kills that
>No Sakura
>Could be playing Skullgirls or fightcade poverty
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>>341902141
> The game has 18 characters currently, which is enough to ensure variety in terms of playstyles

And yet it doesn't.
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>>341873505
Because Capcom, you fucking faggots made the roster shit by not putting Juri in from day 1.

Then we get complete pure SHIT for DLC characters so far.

By SHIT I mean Alex, Guile, and Shitbuki.
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>>341904032
Juri fans are hilarious.
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>>341903424
Thanks.
>>341903430
Keep your crappy pics anon ,if they're the same quality as the ones you posted than keep them to yourself.
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>>341903232
To see the arcade endings. I like the characters.
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>>341873505
I'm a shitty player and I hit a skill plateau. I fell in love with this game because I always felt I was growing as a player and learn from my mistakes. But I've semi-recently hit a point where I can't identify what I can do to get better and that sadly frustrates me and makes me turn to casual spoonfeeding games like Overwatch that make me feel happy for being mediocre
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>>341904240
>LETS PUT IN SHIT CHARACTERS AND NOT HAVE A SINGLE REP FROM STREET FIGHTER 4 YEAH THAT'S A GREAT IDEA
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>>341903232
>>341903254
I'm one of those weird anomalies that would absolutely refuse to fight others for a long time until I became too used to exploiting AI-tactics in Arcade Mode runs. Eventually I got bored of winning against computers and it was only then that I started playing against others, but it took a long time for me to get used to the feeling of losing and treating losses as opportunities to learn. I would never argue that fighting games aren't inherently competitive, (they're 1v1 after all,) but you gotta consider that not everyone is a competitive player. Some people just like the flashy supers and combos, some people just like the characters and stories, and some people just like the competition. The matter of the fact is that any recent great fighting game is able to appeal to everyone in all these ways, and SFV did not, and that's why it's where it's at.
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>>341904286
And you can keep your slut pictures to yourself.
>doesn't even wear underwear
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>>341873505
I stopped playing for many reasons:
>online doesn't work half of the time, even after port forwarding
>Lobby search is a joke
>game has bare-bones content to keep me busy while the online doesn't work
>every friend i have that played fightans are not interested or simply stopped playing the game, even gold friends of mine stopped playing.
>I don't like the gameplay that much but i can stand it if the game is so what functional

I'll wait until they fix at least the fucking lobby search with a Region or at least a connection filter, else i might just sell the game back i guess.
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>>341904286
>no panties
why are ninjas lewd?
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I really wish I still liked SFV, since fighting games are pretty much the only competitive genre that aren't about fucking teams.

Maybe quake will actually be good.
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>>341886017
not the same guy but the fact the game has zero servers in south america makes my matches delayed as fuck, shit gets at least 6f delay up to 12 or 15f delay. it is insane.
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>>341904674
If Capcom is doing what I think they're doing, then SFV may be the game for you, potentially. So far none of the Alpha characters used in SFIV have come back, and the only SFIII rep to come back from SFIV is Ibuki. Assuming they're focusing on the remaining characters from Alpha and SFIII they never used, you can expect at least C. Viper and Gouken back from SFIV and younger versions of the SFIII cast.
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>>341903723
>>341904469
Quality Makoto pics thank you guys
>>341904962
Kunoichis use their sex appeal to get info/murder their targets anon
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>>341905232
But Ibuki is a virgin and would never kill!
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>>341904704
When I feel like playing a fighting game but not playing against other players I play DMC or a beat em up or something. Fighting game AI is just not fun for me.

>>341904674
True. They should add Gouken.
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>>341896739
Andy always thought as Mai as a sister. Also, I've heard they are a couple in XIV.
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>>341905160
Honestly, it's not even that I mind the other game's characters, or that I don't want ALL of the Street Fighter characters to be in one game. It's that I'm pissed off that they completely neglected putting in even a single rep from Street Fighter 4, particularly my favorite one, in favor of putting in a bunch of characters hardly anyone gives a flying fuck about.
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>>341905678
At least she's in the game at all. Be happy for what you have. Only two more weeks until you can lay hands on Juri.

My main in USFIV was Oni, for crying out loud. There's no chance in hell we'll ever see him again.
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>>341873505
Never started playing.
Just waiting to see how / if the game improves.
I'm in no hurry to pick it up
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>>341877585
Soul Calibur 3 has a lot of game breaking bugs and balance issues.

You can crash the game on command.
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>>341905918
Boy I'm glad to not be a chick. You want to get an unhindered as possible to do your workout but you got to keep the sports bra on.
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>>341905979
>My main in USFIV was Oni, for crying out loud. There's no chance in hell we'll ever see him again.

I'm sorry Anon. Personally I'm of the mindset that they should not even make a new iteration of a fighter if they're not going to include all of the characters from the previous iterations for this exact reason.

It pisses people off when they can't play their favorites.
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>>341905479
> Ibuki is a virgin
Anon lets not be delusional waifu shits , she goes out looking for cock in SF IV and is always thinking about boys , Ibuki is no virgin anon.
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>>341905678
They did say before announcing the DLC characters that the criteria were the following:

>What fighting style do they bring to the table, and from what country/culture? This makes no fucking sense considering a majority of the SF fighters.

>Story role. How do they bridge the gap between SFIV and SFIII? (This gets thrown out the window considering Birdie, Mika, etc.)

>Fighting mechanics. Are they a zoner, a grappler, or keep-away fighter? How do they fulfill this role differently from other people of the same archetype? (This is fair.)
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>>341906126
>looking
See? Never getting just looking

Her utter incompetency keeps her pure!
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Still unsure if this is Makoto or not
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>>341906125
Losing your main sucks, but let's be real here: If they attempted what you just suggested, it would result in a bloated, unbalanced mess of a game. I'd rather adapt to a new character than play such a game.
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>>341906412
Hmm.

pro
>muscular
>short hair

con
>small bust
>smiling
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>>341873505
Gameplay wise, it was fun the first few weeks but later on, it got staler faster then the previous installments. It didn't quite scratch that itch well later on.

Outside from that, Online can be a bitch (due to technical issue and I don't find many and frequent matches with good connections because of the country where I live), Single player sucks because there's no arcade mode but only a survival mode which I'm not a big fan of (this contributes to the staleness of the game for me), the lack of characters didn't quite help (I know there's DLC and shit but come on, even the home version of SFIV has more than 16 characters on start and I don't have to grind points or pay real money for them. And for some reason, I feel cheated that we have to pay through points or money to get new characters. That shit sucks considering the small amount of characters on release) and it feels so unfinished (This game was rushed right? The game is so lacking. For example, there's only 1 stage with that special out of the ring KO animation)

The only way for me to get back to SFV is for capcom to improve SFV completely, visually (like the menu and the UI) and mechanically (the gameplay and shit). I wouldn't be surprised if there's a SSFV coming out and I think that would be for the best.
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>>341906412
>No purple hair streak
>But athletic clothes

Could be the chick from Big Hero 6, but could also be Makoto. That said, my dick does not discriminate.
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>>341906406
Anon please , don't be delusional and just accept that Ibuki is nothing more than a cum dumpster.
>>341906412
Fuck off with those shitty Makoto pics you stupid motherfucker.
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>>341906559
> but let's be real here: If they attempted what you just suggested, it would result in a bloated, unbalanced mess of a game.

I don't necessarily agree. To throw away all of the roster they've built up in the past seems retarded, a waste, and a massive step backwards all for what? Better graphics? Slightly different mechanics?

Neither of those are worth the compromise of ditching the majority of the roster.
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>>341905678
>neglected putting in even a single rep from Street Fighter 4
But Juri is dlc
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>>341906765
You can fuck off with your shitty udon pics.
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>>341896915
Not him but:
>Lower SF2T to mid (It aged pretty bad)

>Replace Garou with RB2 (Garou is only liked because CVS2 fags wanted to say they like Fatal Fury without actually liking Fatal Fury)

>Lower SFA3 to high (terrible balance)

>Lower USF4 to mid (I just REALLY hate Ultras in that game.)

>Put JoJo to Mid

>Add GGxrd to top

>Raise TT2 and Skull Girls to top

>Lower UMK3 to Low and MKX to High

>Swap KoF 98 and 2k2 with their UMs and put 2k2 to top

> Raise VF4 to High

>Raise Injustice to mid

>Raise Last Blade 2 to mid

>Lower MK2 & MK4 to trash

>Raise DoA 4 to mid
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>>341906412
She's been drawn in a similar outfit before
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>>341906802
Nah, man. Listen.

Just think about how many SF titles there are - and I'm not just talking about the mainline games and characters. What you're suggesting is outright insane.
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>>341896915
The list is messed up in top tier immediately because of Alpha 3 being there.
It's a broken game.

Bloody Roars also shouldn't be past mid tier unless we're talking about how fun it is to mash.
Not that it has no potential in being a competitive game or something, but it is limited compared to something like Soul Calibur 2.
At the very least not top tier material

Fighting Vipers shouldn't be in mid, Injustice should be bottom tier. Same with Isuka.

SF x Tekken being in mid tier is probably the most wrong thing in the list, even after the bug fixes.
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>>341906931
I meant in the launch roster. I know Juri is DLC, and the fact that she wasn't the very first DLC character at the very least pisses me off like you would not even know.

The only way they can make up for it is by not making her new design look like shit, and by buffing her breast size up to be huge like in that one story mode art piece that has been floating around.

I'm not very fond of her having the eye patch but so long as the rest of her looks good I can deal with it I guess. I know she didn't have two eyes in SF4 either, but at least the mechanical one was there to make her face look normal and not asymmetrical like the eye patch does.

>>341907226
I know that to include all of the SF characters is a bit of a stretch, but they should have at least had the entire roster from USF4.

Even if it meant having to use the SF4 models as placeholders while they made new ones for them over the course of the game's life.
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>>341906802
The reason we get better graphics and different mechanics is because money isn't spent on bringing back 100+ characters from previous games. Not even SNK, who actually has a historical collective roster of over 100 fighters has done this. It's not as simple as "copy, add graphics filter, paste." If you want every past SF character in one game, play MUGEN.
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>>341907569
>they should have at least had the entire roster from USF4.
USFIV had like 44 characters. That's crazy.
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>>341874065
this, also only gorrila mash offense is viable, no matter who you play. Playing defensively, baiting and punishing all take a back seat to jump, mash, and dash. If you want to play a game that rewards offense more than defense you're better off playing any of the other fighting games out there.
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>>341907712
KOFXIV is launching with more than that though right? So why couldn't SFV? Seems like it's purely cheapness or laziness.

> It's not as simple as "copy, add graphics filter, paste."

I never said it was. That's why I said they should have at least used the old models as placeholders while they made new ones. There's no reason not to have all the characters they've made. It just alienates people when their favorites aren't in the roster.

Why do you think ASSFAGGOTS are so successful? Imagine how unsuccessful ASSFAGGOTS would be if they shit out a new game with 1/10th of the roster they had.
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>>341908146
>KOFXIV is launching with more than that though right?
it also looks like a ps2 game and will very likely not be well balanced
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>>341875338
this. stop building games around competition- build them around fun and people will play them and get competitive
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>>341874334
Literally compromise the list.
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>>341876574
nah, I always had a sort of neutral opinion of USFIV. It had a ton of bullshit and 50/50's but it at least allowed for varying styles of play. Even though SFV has a smaller roster the characters still have much more similar gameplans than past versions of the same characters. It's been stripped of most of its depth and isn't nearly as engaging as past games since every matchup revolves around getting in and frame trapping everyone into either a counter hit or throw until death. No footsies, no dedicated neutral, no whiff punishing, no dedicated zoning. I didnt notice how crippled defensive play was until I saw more dhalsim players and got my hands on Guile. It's such a shame.
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>>341908397
KOF games are balanced well enough.
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>>341908146
KoFXIV is launching with more because it's spent more time in development. Outside of that, you can't use SFIV models as placeholders for SFV because they literally lack graphical fidelity, animations, modeling, rigging, and a bunch of other shit that the SFV cast has. They would have to go through 30+ fighters and animate all their faces for just Zangief's CA. That would take a lot of money, a lot of time, and that's before even hitting the balancing board where we would have to come up with V-triggers for everyone, v-skills for everyone, different v-reversals for everyone, and infinite log of other shit including frame data, attack properties, etc. What you're asking for is figuratively insane .
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>>341906765
Ibuki just showed up with an insect glaive, not a single active skill, is not getting any extracts and is just trying to mount over and over. Makoto cannot believe this shit.
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>>341908493
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>>341908146
HoN and Dota 2 both did that though. Maybe not quite 1/10 but certainly not even close to the full roster.
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>>341909164
Nah she is just experimenting with the 3d camera
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>>341901325
>girls play video games
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>>341906765
>>341909164
>IbukiDefeatsMakotosTouchScreenGuile.png
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>>341909364
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>>341908904
>well enough.
So not. Meanwhile SFV is very well balanced with the only arguably bad character being Gief and it doesn't look like a ps2 game
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>>341902141
Injustice 2 will have 28 or 30
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>>341909746
>Injustice 2
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>>341907502
my god he looks so shit
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>>341909971
epic meme guy
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>>341909678
> SFV is very well balanced
you know how I know you're a shill
>Ps2 graphics
the only argument left for cucks like you.Enjoy your 8 frame of lag , rage quitters and shitty game based on who can spam medium punch the fastest stupid capcom shill
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>>341910124
Ibuki is cute there, you could have at least posted the edit

unlike this
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>>341909678
What does it matter if it looks like a PS2 game? It still looks better than SFV's god awful designs.
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>>341909562
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>>341873505
Its not fun I hated focus but I realize how important system mechanics are for fighters. It doesn't have to be bloated like XRD but sheesh at least something. Vskill/trigger/reversal and crush counters is not enough.
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>>341910497
yea and the game is not finished thay have lots of time to fix it so
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>When Tekken 7 was announced
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>>341910534
>b-b-but kens face guys! Just don't look at it anywhere but the title screen
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>>341910539
>>341910497
netherrealm can't into female faces, all the girls in their games look like transgenders.
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>>341873505
Check the sticky on r/kappa.
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>>341910831
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>>341910831
Meanwhile, sf trannys look like women
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>>341902141
No todays standard is more than 20 characters at launch like other good fighters. SFV just screwed it up a little.
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>>341910831
i love this meme
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>>341910730
>it's in beta!
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>>341902141
>ensure variety in terms of playstyles.
Yet every decent character boils down to shimmy/grab mix-ups due to their insipid toolkits and the 8-frame delay.
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At least the mods are interesting.
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>>341894365
No, that means I see the post in every sfv I happen to see.
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>>341911163
if all tyranny's looked like poison I would most def become a faggot.
>>341911293
your post only reinforces what I said you blind faggot.
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>>341911190
Guilty gear xrd, KI, SG and pretty much any anime kusoge
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>>341874334
putting SF4 in the top tier tells me how young you are and tells me your opinion is shit.
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>>341911293
So womanly
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>>341911503
way she dont have a anime face look i like sfv and mkx but some of the same looks like shit look at this fat fag
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>>341911412
Especially the lewd ones.
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>>341911660
yap
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>>341911704
Can you reply to me again in English please.
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>>341911543
Tekken 5 and vanilla Sf4
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>>341912051
he looks like shit
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>>341910814
Such buyer's remorse in your posts.
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>>341911969
>covering up half her face
>including the huge nose
She doesn't even have full teeth, worst Mileena
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EIGHT FRAMES
>EIGHT FRAMES
>>EIGHT FRAMES
>>>EIGHT FRAMES
>>>>EIGHT FRAMES
>>>>>EIGHT FRAMES
>>>>>>EIGHT FRAMES
>>>>>>>EIGHT FRAMES
>>>>>>>>EIGHT FRAMES
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>>341912198
Fair enough
>>341912297
Man face if I ever saw one man , netherrealm is shit at making females.
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>>341912097
Both had arcade runs with less first. So I guess no game is good

Also
>todays standard
You realise how old both are?
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>>341912297
>>341912476
so this is better to you
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>>341912492
Point is bar has been set. No back pedaling now.
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>>341912595
No cause the model is still shit
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>>341912641
> No back pedaling
oh the irony
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>>341912595
No anon read what I'm writing , THEY ALWAYS MAKE SHITTY FEMALES , FACES ,BODIES EVERYTHING< NETHERREALM CAN'T INTO FEMALES AT ALL NEVER HAVE NEVER WILL.
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>>341876036
What is a SF game supposed to feel like anon?
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>>341912972

nope
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>>341909410
Both of those games, HoN especially, are borderline dead though.

I think DotA 2 is the best ASSFAGGOTS but I never really see anyone talking about it anymore. It seems like there's no interest for it other than the small core.
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>>341913014
bags of sand
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None of my friends really play anymore and online isn't fun.

>get game at release
>main cammy, actually rank up easily but I've been playin fightan since the mid 90s
>online for a bit but then focus on local
>play with friends on fight nights every two weeks
>fight nights slow down
>friends refuse to buy a copy until more content hits so I just stomp them after a while
>SFV gets pushed aside for other titles
>go online again
>RQs out the ass and no way of effectively reporting or punishing them
>best of threes but nobody fucking utilizes it and just takes the points and run

I think I had three or so guys agree to a best of three. I came back from all of them and won. The only satisfying thing online has provided so far.
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>>341913116
Thanks for proving my point once again.
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