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>i-it's just nostalgia
>f-fuck off genwunner
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If you're old enough to be a genwunner then you shouldn't care about pokemon in 2016
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how can poketards defend this?
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Yungoos looks ten times better than literally my mom's rat and I'm not a Trump memester.
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zigzagoon > rattata > bidoof > the bunny one > sentret > the beaver dude > the new one
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>>341868119
Shit
Cute
Best
Shit
Neck yourself
Shit
Cute
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>>341868195
If you're young enough for Pokemon, you should be doing more useful things with your time than video games.
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I think Yungoos looks pretty good actually. Kind of weird to pick that one out of the bunch to make your point.
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Bunnelby>Sentret>Bidoof>Trump>Patrat>Rattata>Zigzagoon

solely on design
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>>341868119
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>>341868638
zigzagoon is great, kill yourself
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this webm is an accurate portrayal of the state of the franchise
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>>341868638
Can you please kill yourself.
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Every gen has some good, some bad
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?

What?

>normieshits

What?

Do you have a point OP?
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>>341868638
>Bunnelby
>FFFFFFFFFUCKING BUNNELBY

Stop triggering me.
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>>341868704
what the fuck how did you post a webm with sound on /v/
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>>341868279
>real beak
>literally a cone

>exaggerated but realistic rat teeth
>a fucking zigzag

People will defend this.
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WE MLP NOW
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>>341868704
>I've never seen the original series where misty dances with her pokemon
How do you people still not realize Pokemon is just one giant reskin.
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>>341868684
>telling someone to kill themselves for having an opinion

I'm sure you'll grow up sometime, you failed adult.
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>>341868704
well-animated creature designs full of life and emotion, unlike past iterations?
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>>341868638
> means greater than, not worse than
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>>341868478
I'm a Gen1baby and I love Bunnelby and Hawlucha.

Gen 6 reaffirmed my hate for all gens outside of 1, but the world of Sun/Moon is convincing me to give it a try.
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>>341868843
truth
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>>341868704
Holy shit it has animation?
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>>341868684
you first, Zigzagoon is sentret except shit

look at the fucking design, it is nothing but jagged edges
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sentret is still the king

:<
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>>341868841
mlp invented horses
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>>341868119
Pokemon is losing their touch. The newer pokemon are very cartoony compared to the first few gens where the designs had a somewhat realistic asset, even if they're fictional monsters.
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Sentret > Bunnelby > Ratatta > Trumprat > Bidoof > Zigzagoon > shit > Patrat
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>We want the digimon audience
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The problem is they started designing pokemon with the anime in mind. Even the designs show the typical special personality you only saw in the anime.
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>>341869042
>it is nothing but jagged edges
that's literally its name.
IT"S LITERALLY A RACCOON
THAT'S THEIR STEREOTYPICAL MOVEMENT.

WHY IS /V/ SO FUCKING RETARDED.
GAMEFREAK HAVE BEEN LAZY SHITTERS SINCE DAY 1.
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>>341868704
Cute
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>>341869009
Contrarily to pretty much every season before it, X/Y actually has a budget for some reason.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O7VE4FkzxKU
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Sentret > Bunnelby > Zigzagoon > Bidoof > Ratatta > Patrat > Yungoose
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>>341868704
looks cute and lively
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>>341869237
>b-but it's in the name!
and guess what, that concept was fucking shit to begin with. It looks like absolute SHIT as a racoon. Shitty Sentret reskin including it's forgettable evolution
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>>341869276
I want to see both of them knotted by arcanine.
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HM SLAVE TIERS:
>Zigzagoon - Gen 3 Pickup best Pickup
>Bidoof
>The rest don't matter because they can't compare to the top two
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>dem proportions
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>>341868950
Why is this image comparing Haunter and a candle?
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>>341868830
>real features are always bad except for G1
full circle, full retard.
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>>341868950
This is just like white and black people in real life.
They're sort of the same, but one is clearly superior over the other.
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>>341868638
Zigzagoon probably has the best design out of all of them. What the fuck man?
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>Gen 1
>Good designs
Pick one
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>>341869491
New gen shitters have no real features.
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>>341869309
>>341868841
Fucking kids man. Why do they get this shit now, and not when I was a kid.
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>>341868950
This is why Gen5 was the best pokemon game after the original, it knew those niches worked and just filled them with new pokemon instead of bending over backwards to make up some bullshit new gimmick ideas.
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>>341868704
Is this an improvised performance?
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>>341869558
>sudowoodo
>gen 1
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>>341869558
>Sudowoodo
>Gen 1
Underage detected.
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>>341869405
>that concept was fucking shit to begin with

It's for children, you need to calm down.
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>People complained about pokemon being "Over-designed" and preferred simple designs
>Masuda states in Gen 7 they'll be using simpler designs
>People complain that its "literally my mom's X"
So what do people want then?
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>>341869558
Only bad design I see here is Magmar and Jynx
Also
>Sudowoodo
>Bad
>Sudowoodo
>Gen 1

>>341869567
For the most part, the bottom is way better.
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>Yungoose
>Young Moose
Seriously gamefreak?
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>>341869762
to complain
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>>341869567
new one looks pretty good tbqh fampai
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This is by far the worst gen. They are literally throwing as many patterns as they can.
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>>341869567
that owl starter is really shit
it's just round
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>>341869567
The Gen 7 Pokemons all look perfect except for the legendaries and the shitty robot waifu.
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>fffucking genwunners!!!
>pokemon was always overdesigned shit!!!
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>>341869762
a reason to bitch
sun moon are disgustingly over-hand holdy though.
And even though MUH NIP LORE
Not fond of how similar the sun legendary is to Entei.
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>>341868119
What's your thread supposed to be about, OP?
>posts random, contrary greentexts
>posts a picture of early route pokemon from each generation
You haven't actually stated anything, plus all of those pokemon are perfectly fine.
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>>341869762
>good simpler designs = more cartoony shit
This is what underage retards actually believe.
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>>341869276
Except Braixen is literally one of the best looking starters/evolutions in the series.
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>>341868516
Exactly this
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>>341869801
It says Yugnoose
Noose
Like the suicide gun
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You know what? I know every pokemon game is a reskin and for the most part they are all the same but I love it. "Innovation" sucks shit. There I said it. Everytime someone tries to change their game dramatically it has a 95% chance of turning out worse. There are a lot of games that if they had just had slight updates over long periods of time Id still be playing them.

I know most people secretly feel the same way too. Look at the cartoon Scooby Doo. One of the most popular and easily recognized cartoons in the world and every episode was exactly the fucking same.
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>>341869567
>hating on based rockpup
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>>341869864
>AeroJUST
>JUSTpedo
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>>341869718
>muh realism
>cute is bad
is this you Reaper?
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>>341869972
>tfw 3rd gen could have been perfect had GF kept day/night
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>>341869762
Shitpost, duh. You really think any of the image.jpg underage summerfriends phoneposters in this thread care about anything but (you)s?
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gen 4 was the last good gen
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Who gives a shit, I just care about them pokegirls.
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>>341868119
I don't even play pokemon since gen 2 and I don't know what you're trying to convey, OP.

Every gen there are some good designs and other forgettable ones. This has always been like that.

If I stopped playing pokemon its because gen 3 was so unhype to the 12 years old me.

>No day/night cycle
>No days of the week
>Less pokemon
>Smaller world

If anything, gen 3 starters were kinda lame to me aswell, but that was personal taste.
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>>341870117
gen 3*
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Pokefags are plebeians when it comes to monster design.
Please just kill yourselves.
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>>341869567
REMINDER THAT WITH EVOLUTIONS, THOSE NEW POKEMON ADD UP TO 17 NEW.

REMINDER THAT LAST GEN HAD 70 NEW AND THIS WILL HAVE LESS.

WE'VE LITERALLY SEEN ~30% OF THE NEW POKEMON FAMILIES ALREADY
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>>341870125
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>>341870117

Are those fakemon you got from dA or some shit?
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>>341869972
rehashing is only bad when it happens to a franchise you never liked anyway
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>>341869909
I never said they were good now did I?
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>>341870223
I'll take whacky and sometimes shit over plain and boring.
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Gen 1 ruined Pokemon
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>>341870223

Pokegirls, not retarded gym leaders.
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>>341870223
Sleepy psychic bitch literally gives me autism.

What are those heart things on her hair? Why is her hair levitating? Why is her hat so big? Why does she have so much hair?
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Red/Green>Fire red/Green leaf>Diamond/Pearl>Saphyre/Ruby>Soul Silver/Heart Gold>Black and white>Silver/Gold>X/Y>Black and white 2
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Why do all these comparison pics use the concept art instead of the actual image in game?

Oh I know, because it would reveal that Gen 1 looks like garbage compared to now.
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>>341870117
Is this meant to be bad designed pokemon? If so, why are Garbodor and Boldore on there?
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>>341870201
look at this total Edgefaggot and laugh
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>>341870125
this
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Why is such a simplistic design such as pic related so much more effective than shit like what we're seeing here;
>>341868279
>>341868704

Bright colours and 'edgy' or wierd designs don't make good pokemon because they're totally overboard and unrelatable. If i've got all these colours and designs flashing in my face i'm not going to remember one from another.

There are some exceptions, i mean Gen II with Typhlosion and others worked well because they weren't ridiculously over exaggerated but at the same time unique and diverse enough to relate back to the roots of Gen I (Based upon real animals).

Too many pokemon designs these days like >>341869276 are taking on human designs and it just ruins the magic and whole element of pokemon being animals in a world that we saw in previous installments.

tldr; They're running out of ideas, moving away from the original concept and making pokemon less memorable and more 'in your face'.
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>>341870382
>>341869918
Let me guess, I just gave you two (You)s.
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>>341870370
>psychic bitch
>Why is her hair levitating?

Also, to answer your autistic question, it makes her look like an angel. And the little pink things on the side of the hair give off the impression of cherubs .
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>>341869918

Except that's wrong you fucking youngfag
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>>341870179
What do you mean "less pokemon"? Generation 3 added about 130 pokemon while 2 only added 100
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>>341870117
>there are people that dislike Avalugg
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>>341870231
all 100% real m8
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>>341869405

It's based off of a Tanuki aka racoon-dog. They literally look like that.
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>>341870492
wrong
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>>341870223
I want to marry Sabrina.
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>>341870440
>more effective

Explain anon. What is it effecting exactly?
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>>341870440
>people shitposting about pokemon design AGAIN

This is from a magazine published 16 years ago

It is still accurate and nothing has changed.
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>>341868119
What's your problem with Trump?
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>>341870590
i can't wait how he damage controlls this
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>>341870117
Avalugg is bro-tier.
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The only thing I hate about Pokémon is the gameplay. I like almost every Pokémon (what the fuck is Smoochum), but the gameplay is so fucking BORING
>trainers are easy as fuck
>AI is retarded, after playing a bit on Showdown every gym or trainer is so fucking easy
>literally nothing else to do expect battling and do other irrilevant stuff. The only games that managed to do that were Emerald and BW2. XY fucking sucked ass
>can't bother with retarded battle RNG
They should create an hardcore-difficulty Pokémon game and that's it.
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>love pokemon since red/green
>"Hey I want to play some pokemon!"
>download every gen
>try to play one
>get bored 15 mins in
>repeat with several of them
>quit
>realize that you only loved pokemon because you were a kid
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>>341870440
Gen 1 had the most humanoid pokemon in the whole franchise.
I wish you fuckers would stop contradicting yourselves with your constant nitpicking and generalizations.
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>>341870567
Mega Absol is L I T E R A L L Y DeviantArt-tier.
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>>341870641
>art style
>covers the art style of one particular monster from each franchise

It's not correct.
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GEN 6 KILLED POKEMON
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>>341870798
Oh fuck.
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>>341870440
>making pokemon less memorable
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>>341870873
Yes it is.
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>>341870440
>Too many pokemon designs these days are taking on human designs and it just ruins the magic and whole element of pokemon being animals in a world that we saw in previous installments.

Gen 1 had more human-like Pokemon than any other generation, what are you talking about?
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>>341870798
>people will still say gen 1 looks better
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>>341870873
Also they mention the origin of Digimon without saying it predates Pokemon.
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>>341870798
woodpecker still couldn't have been a g1/2 design
darkpix could though.
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>>341870713
They should make a pokemon tactics game ala fire emblem.
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>>341870803
So's Suicune and Mega Gallade.
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The sheer number of Pokemon/YGO genwunners on /v/ is absolutely repulsive.
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>>341870641
>Masked Rider is a Power Rangers clone
Triggered. Kamen Rider literally predates Super Sentai by four years.
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>>341870382
>He says as he posts the worst character from an otherwise decent looking movie
You fucking faggots can never appreciate any design for what they are so you just shitpost on literally any design they shit out, trying to compare it to the original generation, along with the anti-Gen1 fags shitposting back, making the arguments grow even worse.
The both of you fucks are the problem and you're all just children
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>>341869309
..that was fucking great. I guess I should start watching this again. When did the anime get so quality?
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>>341870625
Let me help you out here kiddo.
An effective pokemon is one that you remember because its design sticks with you. If you go overboard in a pokemons design it becomes a 'mess' and isn't very easy to recall down the line based upon appearance.

The fact i can remember most of Gen I & II pokemon based on their appearance alone) but am unable to recall some of the main new features in future games is worrying. You could argue we're getting too many pokemon added per Gen but its because they're being to 'artsy' and forcing this trend of adding more 'bits' and 'bobs' and adding a range of colour palettes to make them new and flashy but in turn this ruins the aesthetic look that the original generations had, which made them so charming.

Basic desgins like pic related stick in your mind. You remember them. That's how they're effective.
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Here's the difference between early and modern Pokemon


>Early Pokemon
Didn't take itself too seriously. Pokemon training was more of a hobby, that normal people would spend maybe a Saturday watching. The villains were real with feeasible motives. The lore matches the real world (China and South America existing in their world)

Now,
>modern Pokemon
Cartoon, Dragonball Z tier villains with plots of impossible galactic domination. Everyone and their mother is a trainer. Anime world where people dress like this (on the right) >>341870223
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>>341869918
literally the worst starter stage ever
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>>341870948
Nice meme.
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>>341870909
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>>341870909
Hey, you wanna get mad at Mega Evolutions, then get mad at the people who bitched endlessly about Gen 4 evos.

Thanks to them, the mons that need an actual evolution will NEVER get one.
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>>341870117
But Avalugg is pretty great family-kun.
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>>341871021
I'm starting to think is just one very bored autist with a folder full of /vp/ bait.
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http://www.strawpoll.me/10508355/
http://www.strawpoll.me/10508355/
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>>341871021
/v/ is the where all the contrarians in the world come and spew shit.
In the mid-late 00s and the early 10s most normalfags despised gen 3-5 designs, so /v/ praised them. Now that people are turning around and saying "hey, maybe these new pokemon aren't so bad" /v/ is suddenly genwun central again.
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>Pokemon are too complicated now, they're like Digimon!
>WHY THE FUCK IS IT SIMPLE NOW IT'S SHIT REEEEE
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>>341871061
so just the fact that you remember them makes the design good?

I can remember all the pokemon, wow they must all be good huh? fuck off
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>>341870930
>>341870759
No, it didn't.
The reason you're saying that is because you find them the most relatable.
Also adding voice to a pokemon like with Lucario was god awful. Especially when they stand up right and are literally 'Hurrrh human pokemon' in the flesh.
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>>341871021
You're retarded.
As a real genwunner, I never go into Pokemon threads (this case being a rare exception). All these phonies are just posting bait to get you riled up.
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>>341869405
>forgettable evolution
Linoone is actually one of the most powerful normal types in the game competitively.
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>>341871046
With X/Y. I think The Pokémon Company wanted to apologize for the complete shitshow the Black/White series turned out to be (pic related).

As always, remember to watch subbed since the Pokémon dub is especially terrible and low-quality.
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>>341871194.

A good design is one you remember. If its simple and you remember it, its a bloody effective appearance. Thats fucking common sense. Are you retarded?
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>>341870927
Sandslash doesn't look like hello kitty meets walt disney anon.

Machamp, Kabutops, Blastoice, etc. etc.

I could go on.
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>>341871294
>since the Pokémon dub is especially terrible and low-quality.
When does that start, B/W?
Downloaded up to like gen 4 or 5 I think.
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>>341871325
Yeah, I agree.

So all pokemon are effective designs then, right? I remember them all.
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>yfw that there will only be 50~ new Pokemon again with a dozen of those being legendaries and a bajillion Megas
>we will never go back in a time where there are more new Pokemon than old ones like in Hoenn and Unova
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>>341871039
>you're all just children
Anon are just that buttblasted to pull out MUH UNDERAGE card?
sad
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>>341871210
Meowth could talk since the anime started, Machoke is a literal fucking human and so is Jynx.
And I don't find them repeatable you piece of shit, I don't even like most gen 1 designs at this point.
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>>341871325
You seem to be the retarded one seeing as you can't remember designs that aren't just recolored real-life animals. Maybe you should get yourself checked?
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defend this

PROTIP: you cant
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>>341871061
>The fact i can remember most of Gen I & II pokemon based on their appearance alone) but am unable to recall some of the main new features in future games is worrying.

It's because Gen 1 and 2 pokemon were in your face for a combined total of six years before Ruby and Sapphire happened. Four of those years were Gen 1 exclusively, in fact.

It's why you can remember every town and gym leader from Kanto too.
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>>341871294
/u/ put on suicide watch right there.
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>mongooses
>rodents
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>>341871437
>repeatable
I meant relatable. They clearly are repeatable tough.
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>>341871395
It starts whenever 4kids lost the dubbing rights and TPCie started dubbing it themselves, not sure when that was. It doesn't help that they're complete cheapstakes that refuse to license their own fucking cartoon's OST so they always replace the original Japanese OST with the cheapest, blandest shit ever.
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>>341871484
I don't want to defend something like that anyway.

>>341871501
So TL;DR Gen 1 is still the best.
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>>341870117
wtf is that slowpoke hahahhah
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>>341870798
Where did it all go so wrong
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>>341871484
Are there even any good Megas? Every single one is at best "it's basically the same, like Charizard's cousin" and at worst an utter travesty
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>>341871229
>>341871152
Oh these threads are obviously full of bait, but there are tons of legitimate genwunners in them as well, which is the disgusting fact.
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>>341871412
No, they're not all effective designs.
As you can see (I presume you're not retarded then) we have a difference in opinion, so its more opinionated.

Though like i've said, the majority of anons here can likely remember Gen I in its entirety, and at least some from Gen II & III.
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>>341869567
>Those 3 on the bottom
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>>341870798
That sums it up pretty well.
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>>341871484

>dissing on that Mega Heracross design

Literally the only good looking Mega.
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>Ffufufufucking genwunners!!!!
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>>341871416
What the fuck else would you describe this endless war about what faggots think should be a good Pokemon design then?
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>>341871484
I actually like heracross's
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>>341871456
>resulting in insults because you know i'm right
Here's your (you).
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>>341868704

Fuack i wish my girlfriend would dress like that
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>Gen 1 fags on suicide watch
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>>341871610
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>>341871610
Blaziken I guess?
It's the least shit.
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>>341871682
i am here to taste tears, i don't care who is right.
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>>341868119
>Ratatta
>good
Taking the raccoon and bunny as favourites.
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>>341869042
>Zigzagoon is sentret except shit
Linoone blew Furret out the water. Don't you dare tell me Furret is better than Linoone. Gen II had some of the worst Pokemon and still do to this day. Gen IV had to clean up some of Gen II's mess.
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>>341871178
The idea is to make the pre-evolved forms look more cute anon. Of course they look "cartoony", but they also are cuter than the old ones.

Meanwhile the evolved forms look more mature, and what you seem to want in pokemon. But no, they're probably too edgy or some shit.
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>>341868119
Huh, they made Trump into a Pokemon?
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>>341871725
>good concept
>literally Galade with a cape

Found the faggot.
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>>341869558
genwunners BTFO
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>>341871610
Mega Banette, Kangaskhan, Mewtwo Y, Pidgeot, Lopunny, Sableye, Audino, Alteria, etc. have pretty good/interesting designs but shitposters will never acknowledge them as such because it goes against their EVERYTHING THAT DIDN'T EXIST WHEN I WAS 12 IS SHIIIIIIIIIIT narrative.
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>>341871715
it wasnt a popularity contest. it was a poll to determine which pokemon will be given away
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>tfw no one else ITT is old enough to remember when Pokemon was widely popular
>going to the first movie with friends and shittalking the new designs
>bullying younger kids into making shitty trades, then feeling bad and returning it
>jerking off to Misty for the first time
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>>341871484
Heracross look cool as a reploid.
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>>341871484
Mega Heracross makes me laugh. It just looks so goofy. I'm kind of glad that's the design they went with in a way.
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>>341871725
THAT SALAMENCE
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
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>>341871625
dude, the majority of anons here have played gen 1 and 2. Can't say that for the others. the pokemon craze was in its peak then, shit was everywhere. It was a formative point in your life, in terms of what you would remember and latch on to later.

so NO FUCKING WONDER you remember the early ones more, like is this even a fucking question? if we switched the rosters of gens 5 and 1, you would be having this same nostalgia for it, and everybody would know them.

If you want to actually argue about good designs we can do that, but you CANNOT just say "well the ones I remember are good, the rest are shit" as if that isn't the most obvious thing in the world. you remember the ones from the games you put the most time into, whoodathunk

again, fuck off.
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>>341871625
>we have a difference in opinion

WOW ANON, WHAT AN OBSERVATION

You mean to tell me fags who played the game from Gen 1 as a child would remember shit that gave them fond memories as a child?

Then again, they don't seem to remember that the graphics of the old pokemon games were comparatively garbage, so maybe they're just fucking senile and hallucinating the new pokemon under the new style.
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>>341871767
>bunny as favourite
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>>341869605
If Gen 5 was the best game after the original, then why is it perceived by the fanbase as the worst?
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>>341871675
>Generic low quality image.jpg chart with no sauce
Nice try /pol/
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>>341870925
>tfw as an old TCGfag Dewgong is extremely memorable to me because it's first TCG card was BASED AS FUCK for an uncommon.
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>>341871706
Kill yourself tripcuck.
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>>341871725
>Okay what if we TOOK KANGASKHAN
>AND PUT IT'S BABY OUT OF THE POUCH
>Good concept
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>>341869567
>Liger Zero
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Reminder, new pokemon look like shit

The pokemon should have looked like these we made up back then

http://pokefactory.pokemology.com/PFclassic/
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>>341871484

Anon...I don't know what to tell you but Heracross's mega is based off of a hercules beetle which exists in real life.
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>>341872041
i hated that fucking pokemon and i wanted to punch its face
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>>341871882
>mew and mewtwo
>furrybait
>literally hairless

is this a giant bait?
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>>341871995
dunno what fanbase you're listening to. Even if people don't agree it's second best, it's at least better than 4 and 6.
>muh platinum
yeah no, can't fix what's fundamentally broken.
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>>341871725
Mega Beedrill is great.
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>>341871675
>posting a graph that doesn't take digital sales into account
>posting from a fucking iphone
good one, shitposter-kun
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>>341871971
I almost threw my DS when my cute bunnelby evolved into that disgusting mess.
It happen with Woobat in Gen 5 too.

Playing blind is a mistake.
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>>341872117
Anti-furries are retarded? Shocker!
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>>341868119
Is that a honey badger?
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>>341871897
BEHEAD THOSE WHO INSULT ISLAM
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>>341872041
You should see what the cards do now.

Remember when Chansey had the most HP in the card game with 120?

We'll meet Mega Charizard Ex
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>>341871725
>first image I see
>Tri-blastoice
>bad

Yeah that's a shit opinion
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>>341871284
This, bellydrum+e speed with sitrus berry is an unstoppable combo
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>>341872179
I don't think that any sane person likes or approves furries.
It's like defending some other mental illness.
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>>341871920
>if we switched the rosters of gens 5 and 1, you would be having this same nostalgia for it, and everybody would know them.
Nope, unlikely'.
Time of years doesn't matter. I've played all Gen games (Go me) and i can't recall over 40% of pokemon from last gen by design alone. Bad design choices? probably?

Simple designs > Over complicated designs

>again, fuck off.
Are you like 12? Awwwwh what a fucking cry baby.

>but you CANNOT just say "well the ones I remember are good, the rest are shit"
>Weeeehhh! I'm right and you're wrong!

Sorry Dad. Didn't realise i couldn't post what i wanted on an anonymous image board. You don't have to be so butthurt and mad because you're slowly starting to realise how shit the mega' concept is. Don't worry anon, it's only going to get worse.
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>>341872237
You can barely read the card text wtf
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>tfw you've just grown out of Pokemon and can't enjoy these games anymore
At least the MD spinoffs and Conquest were fun
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>>341872117
>implying furries don't love mewtwo

How could you forgot BLORF?
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>>341870223
>hating dragon milf
Kill yourself.
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>>341872237
>MEGA ULTRA HYPER METAL CHARIZARD 2000 EX
>230 MILLIONS HP
>FLAME OF I JUST RAPED YOUR MOTHER AND NOW IM HERE FOR YOU: 300 AIDS POINTS
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>>341868119
I wish they would stop with the generic normal rodent/bird at the beginning. There's nothing wrong with using old pokemon for a new region's beginning area. Furret was the only ok rodent because it gets huge.
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>>341870201
Not even the best designed souls monster.
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>>341871061
>The fact i can remember most of Gen I & II
Horrible argument, the anime was constantly forcing you to remember every pokemon. Why do you think they had a pokerap?

>Basic desgins like pic related stick in your mind.
They are just as basic you nostalgiablinded faggot, look at pikipek, its silhouette is perfectly recognizable.
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>>341871294
Part of me believes they wanted a new main character for Black/White, but the higher ups forced them to re-use Ash.
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>>341872237
I know what they do and I don't like it. Powercreep really got out of hand in Gen IV and went batshit in Gen V.

Gen 2-3 is when the TCG was at its prime, Gen 1 was mostly an unbalanced mess but it was fun and functional and nothing besides the trainers were really broken.

>>341872354
It's a jpg.
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>>341872389
You must be 18 or older to browse this site.
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>>341872427
>Pokedex height represents sprite height
END THIS FUCKING MEME
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>>341869864
Am I the only one that is really disturbed by the fact that aerodactyl losses his fucking hands when he evolves?
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>All these people talking shit about Bunnelby

Diggersby invalidates your entire opinion.
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>>341872179
not true; Newton was an anti-furry
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>>341871882
>Half of the shit list that tries to represent the good tier gens are new shit gen.
Gen 1 and 2 are the only decent ones.
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>>341872208
No it's a mongoose. A prohibited species in the US.
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>>341872510
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>>341871725

That Audino looks great. It actually looks like it could be a normal evolution.
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>>341872354
>>341872490
I mean more the card artwork

It only shows the characters claw and a bit of its face and the other 60 percent of the card is its attack.
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>>341871294
>attract doesn't work if both pokemon are female.

Pokemon is homophobic.
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>>341871610
That's what they're supposed to be.
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>>341872578
Who needs hands when you have SPIKES? Further proof that Garchomps descends from Aerodactyles.
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>>341872657
Yeah, because he has huge power and can literally slap your shit in.
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>>341872440
>Horrible argument, the anime
There's your problem. Watching the anime.

>They are just as basic you nostalgiablinded faggot, look at pikipek, its silhouette is perfectly recognizable.
God dam nyou sound autistic and mad as fuck
Why not get out more and meet real people?
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>>341872332
>Nope, unlikely

lol
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>>341872689
>add more frills and blobs and twirls
Literally everything wrong with Gen 5+ designs.
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>>341872682
>mongoose

...didn't we already have Zangoose?
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>>341872709
You should see the full art cards.
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>>341872823
It adds three. Watch out.
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>>341871882

Did a person with aspergers made this?
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>>341872208
>>341872848
And we also already have a honey badger, so what's your point?

There's also multiple birds, multiple dogs, multiple fish etc.
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>>341872689
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>Every Gen they shit out a new starting rodent
>Implying they could topple the Rat-King

If you aim for the king, you better not miss.
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>>341872816
> Watching the anime.
The anime was the mayor source of the pokeboom you underage retard.
>lmao autism
I don't know why I even bothered.
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>>341872848
We've also had multiple snakes, multiple inanimate objects brought to life, and god knows how many dragons.
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>>341872848
There are different kinds of mongoose anon.

Same as spiders, dogs, cats, birds, literally any animal has tons of different types.
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>>341871061
I can remember some of the shitty designs of the newer games just because they stick out. Who would fuck up drawing the ice cream cone or the gears? I mean, I guess they are simple designs, but why do they exist?

Here's the deal: every gen has had retarded designs. Gen I/II and maybe even a little bit of III can get away with it slightly easier because you can go "Oh, we didn't have something like a ferret/seal/rat/dog, okay." The problem is each gen has been compounding trash throwaway designs while also adding looooots of legendaries that have gotten more and more complex/OP in concept.

And personally, the games themselves are so slowly paced/treat me like I'm a retard that they put me to sleep. I want to like the newer gens, but I just lose all motivation to play them when they stop me frequently to either explain things or have a really shitty children's story about friendship play out. I am not the target demographic so I'm okay with that.
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>>341871971

I actually like Diggersby's design.
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>>341868195
This.
But that rabbit design is fucking terrible I will say
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>>341873119
>The anime was the mayor source of the pokeboom you underage retard.
Arguably it was the cards, they were easily the most visible part of the fandom to outsiders until the beginning of Gen II.
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>>341868279
>>341868830
This if they split the cone into 2 and had some gaps between the teeth they would both look fine.
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>westerners in charge of pokemon design
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>>341873232
It was both. You didn't need to play the games, just collect the cards and watch the anime. There, you're a real Pokemon fan.
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>>341873284
>Shitting on based Golurk
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>>341873284
>golurk line
>Trevenant line
>b a d
ok
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>>341872689
>>
>earlier gens had poorly designed pokemon so that justifies poorly designed pokemon 6 generations later
You cannot defend this. They make the same ugly shit pokemon every single generation with no improvement.
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>>341873284
Yep, they're Pokemon alright.
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The only reason people are bashing the artwork aside from NOT MUH GEN 1 is because Ohmura's doing Pokemon Artwork, and as a result it looks more like Global Link Artwork or Promotional Material for the Anime.
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>>341869864
What pisses me the most is the fact that they mention Mega Aerodactyl is how it actually looked like millions of years ago, so he was always a rock dinosaur instead of gaining the type from being reborn from a fossil like all the others.
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>we want the yokai watch audience
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>>341873128
>>341873128
>>341873025

Wasn't aware of there being different kinds. I kinda like it though. Bidoof really lowered my standards as far as early game mons go.

Also, we have a honey badger pokemon?
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>>341873405
Lol why do you fucking care you goddamn autist?

Shouldn't you fucking start heading over to /vp/ now? This level of obsession is starting to get retarded even for /v/.
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>>341869558
>ditto
>fake pokeballs
>sewer slime
>nigger
all make sense and are good

>sudowoodo
literally kill yourself
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>>341872823

That is still way better than Blissey.
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>>341869864
He wasn't "reborn" anon, they manufactured him.
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>>341873513
>YFW no matter what gen you prefer no matter how bad things get pokemon will never be as shit as Yokai watch
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>>341869558
There's literally nothing wrong with these.

If you don't like Boob-head Magmar, you can get the fuck out
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>>341873546
That post really made me ponder your argument, and made me think really deeply about the whole thing. Thank you very much for your well needed contribution to the thread.
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>>341873539
>Wasn't aware of there being different kinds

Why the everloving fuck would you assume that there aren't different kinds of ANY animal?
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>>341873539
>Also, we have a honey badger pokemon?
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>>341873539
Yes, Typhlosion.
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>>341873740
>argument

I asked a question; this is some serious delusion. Seek help.
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>>341873768
You assume the people whining about multiple Pokemon based on the same animal know about nature.
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go back to /vp/, you faggot,
fuck your genwars
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BIDOOF IS LITERALLY THE BEST DESIGNED POKEMON FIGHT ME YOU FUCKING PHILLISTINES
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>>341872280

>It's like defending some other mental illness

This, I don't defend people who like anime. And neither should anybody else.
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>>341870198
>being a hoennfag
i feel bad for your parents
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>>341873103
Raticate's only good build involves dying slowly.
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>>341873876
You dont defend a point with a question silly head
>well thought out point on the subject of the thread
>LOL Y DO U CARE GO SOMEWHERE ELSE TO TALK ABOUT THIS THREAD
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>>341873284
Trevenant, Mandibuzz and Golurk lines are great.

>>341873952
Not a single issue with the 'doof. Not sure if I just got used to it but its a pretty cute design that matches with its cry very well.
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>>341868119

Zigzagoon is OBJECTIVELY the best regional rodent, the BEST.
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>>341873284
>Disliking Golurk and Trevenant

Back to whatever shithole you came from
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>>341873813
Exhentai isn't giving me anything on this, fuck
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>>341868841
Keldeo existed before MLP was a thing again.
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>>341871971
>dissing on bara bunny
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>>341873768
I don't know anon, I've never seen a mongoose and I've never particularly cared to look into it so meh? Didn't know

>>341873774
Ok so this actually makes me feel like a dumb fuck. Like the different mongoose types? Whatever. How have I looked at this thing though, for 16 years, and never realized it was a badger. Grade A dumbfuckery right here I guess...
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>>341874031
>You dont defend a point with a question silly head

Gee it's almost like I wasn't doing that at all.
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>>341871294
I love how pikachu is the only smart thing of the group
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>>341873891
>nothing to suggest I was whining in my post
>implies it anyways

Love you too anon.
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>>341874276
At least you openly admit to being a shitposter, anon! Remember, the first step to recovery is admitting you have a problem :)
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>>341873103
Mega when?
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>>341871995
It isn't.

Signed,
The fanbase
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>>341874239
You should know about the glory of the mongoose. Similar to the wolverine and the honey badger, they lack the ability to give a fuck about anything like food-chains or basic survival. It fights hawks, snakes, and jackals for a living. That's right, they're about as big as the things hawks pick up on ACCIDENT and they FIGHT those fuckers.
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>>341872731
>>>/reddit/
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>>341872212
more like Islamence
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>>341868410

The new one is definitely better looking than bunnelby, fuck off.
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>>341869567
What if I like both
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Why is every pokemon thread the same now? Am I stuck in a groundhog Day paradox where the same stale bait is posted every thread?
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>>341871484

>Pinser is a stag beetle
>Stag beetles have wings in real life
>Finally give him wings.
>Heracross is a Japanese Rhino beetle
>Make his mega resemble the larger, stronger Hercules beetle.

Those make perfect sense.
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>>341872041
He was great the in TCG vidya too. One of my mainstays alongside Hitmonchan
>>
The saddest thing is that this is the fanbase that Monster Hunter Tri has brought over.
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>>341872427
>Ferret is as big as or than Charizard

Asians have a very odd imagination to size diferences
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>>341874706
So good they upped him to Rare in the second JP only game.
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>>341870117
That mega slowbro ain't that bad, pretty clever design
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>>341874357
I wasn't talking about YOU, silly.
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>>341874778
Fuck off. MH a shit. A SHIT.
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>>341871995
Because BW1 is literally the worst Pokemon game and only contrarians or casuals whose only experiences with JRPG's outside of Pokemon is the DS remakes of FF3 and FF4 and think BW1 actually has a good story like it.
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>>341874621
Because shitty bait images are basically free (You)s and re-posting the same shit over and over doesn't encourage new discussion.
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>>341874458
You mean:

t.
/vp/
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>>341874816
We finally got a translated ROM but I didn't care for it as much because of all the special rules and deck limitations that opponents forced on you to make it more challenging
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>>341874239
The otter is a very close relative to the mongoose, and we have those, too.
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>>341875241
That's the best part, otherwise you'd probably just use the same broken ass deck for every single match.
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>>341874474

The weird thing is while Otters, weasels, badgers, wolvarines and ferrets are all in the same family as Mustelids they are no related to Mongoose which are Herpsidae and are closer to cats and hyenas.
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>>341875337
So like the real tcg?
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>>341872427
Sorry to burst your bubble, but typically for the long Pokemon (mainly serpents, but in this case it applies to Furret too), the "height" listed is actually their length from nose to tail, not their standing height. If we were to apply this same process of adjusting the sprite's height based on the listed Pokedex height, then Seviper would be gargantuan.
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>>341875406
Yes. But this isn't the real TCG, it's a video game.
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>>341872041
>for 3 energy you do 50 hp, what most basic stage have
>or risk having 4 energy for a 30 + chance of paralyze taking chances it will evolve and hurt you more
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>>341868119
>hating trumpgoose
He's going to make Alola great again, with or without you
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>>341875337
Thats half the fun for me though especially since I was never big on the game irl and only had the cards themselves
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>>341872543
>10 year old kids are somehow over 5'11"

>>341874796
Watch this. See Furret? 5'11". Fuckin' huge.

But then...
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>>341875531
>what most basic stage have
What? If they did they usually had you discard energy or add a damage counter to yourself
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>>341875531
Nigga the early TCG was not that advanced.
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>>341868950
Damn the other pokemon look so gay compared to their gen 1 parallels
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>>341875597
BOOM CHARIZARD

LITERALLY TOO SHORT TO BE A DRAGON
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>>341868704
You fucked up, anon. That shit looks great.
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>>341875597
serpentine pokemon are measured in lenght, they did the same with furret

check out arbok, seviper, dragonair...
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>>341875396
Fug, I forgot mongooses are not mustelids.>>341875320
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>>341875704
Pocket Monsters
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>ITT everyone meming over Trumpmon while I'm chill with new rock puppy
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so much character. clearly a labor of love, not an yearly cash cow milk pump
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>>341871995
Because BW1 is really polarising, most people either love it for the plot or all the neat things it did or hate it for the linear region and mon designs (I personally liked it)

BW2 is usually a lot better regarded
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>>341875704
And in case you think I'm joking about how he's too short to be a dragon
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>>341875958
What's its "secret"?
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>>341868119
Yungoos > Zigzagoon > Bunnelby > Sentret >>>>> shit > Bidoof > Rattata >>>>>>>>>> more shit >>> Patrat
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Koffing = coughing
Wheezing = sneezing
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>>341875972
Why do 2/3 of them have the same face
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>>341875597
Furret is measured from head to tail you stupid nigger. It's body length, not standing height.
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>Durant
>Frosslass
>Metagross
>Gen 7 pup
>Grubbin
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I'm no genwunner, I've always managed to find someone I like from each generation as well as identifying ones I don't like more or less consistently across all generations, but the other day something occurred to me regarding a notable shift through the years in how they design Pokemon. I'd hate to bring up the tired Muk/Garbodor comparison, but that was what made me realize it. In the older generations, there were certain Pokemon that were not overtly created to be mass-appealing, in the case of Gen I, Muk is one of those Pokemon. Of course, there will always be some individuals who like those oddballs, but in general Muk is a grotesque Pokemon. He's icky, monstrous, somewhat-scary; none of that is bad, mind you, but it puts him in a situation where not everybody is going to like him. Garbodor, on the other hand, lacks all of that grotesqueness. Sure, he's made out of garbage, and that by itself is kind of offputting, but there's otherwise nothing that's really scary about him. He's still a whimsical and friendly monster, whereas Muk isn't. Garbodor lacks the "bite" that Muk has in its design that makes Muk unappealing to some while being endearing to others, and as a result Garbodor feels like its trying to please everyone at the same time.
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>>341875704
WHEN WILL THEY LEARN
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>>341876069
STEALTH ROCK PEW PEW
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>>341876219
TL;DR
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>>341869864
It's really funny how Sharpedo goes from evil shark to

>AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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>>341875974
BW1's female protagonist is much cuter tho
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>>341871484
But these are cool
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>>341875793
It's done for any pokemon that are generally longer than they are tall, so serpentine, quadrupedal, most aquatic ones.
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Booted up the 2nd one because of this thread and look at the first card I won
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>>341876448
Rosa > Hilda
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>>341876653
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>>341876219
in gen 1 most pokemon were essentially designed as regular jrpg enemies, stuff like muk was used by the evil scientists, team rocket, bikers and skinheads. the gimmick of the series was just that you could capture the enemies and use them for yourself, now they are all designed with the kid-appeal-pokemon are-friends-gotta-be-easy-to-animate-and-make-plush-merch-of philosophy
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>>341876813
What are you, a homosexual?
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>>341871034
Why would an adult know so much about a children's television show from another country?
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Pokemon XY is a shit. The transition to 3D absolutely murder the sprite and MIDI charm of old Pokemon game. Kalos is supposed to be France but it is Kanto rehash 2.0 . There's no reason to have Santalune Forest be Viridian forest rehash. There's no reason for fairy gym to have the same teleporting gimmick as Sabrina's gym, with exactly the same solution. There's no reason to hand you Kanto starter complete with Megastone that you didn't earn very early on.

Say what you want about BW, I ABSOLUTELY love that you can't use your old faithful Pokemon and were forced to use all brand new pokemon in all new region. The atmosphere and music of Unova were also excellent. Gen V has enough balance of sorting out outdated mechanics (one use per game TM mostly) but still staying true and not as much as babby genwunner mode like XY. I absolutely despises XY.
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>>341876069
He has a secret cave for you to spelunk. With your dick.
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I love this nigger because it looks like it's been eating shit.
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>>341869567
The bottom looks like it literally belongs to a different series.
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how does /v/ get so autistic over a kids game?
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>>341876973
>choosing generic bubblegum pop girl over this ass
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>>341873513
I non-ironically like the new kid. He looks like a kid that you could see in real life.
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>>341877005
Well he's writing an article about children's television shows from other countries, he might as well do some basic research.
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>>341874212
Keldeo existed since 1982?
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>>341877212
>again
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>>341875972

that's what I liked about the old sugimori art - it showed the pokemon in more than a generic 'standing still' pose
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>>341877028
Why Black/white was so fucking good?
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>>341877176
Yeah he looks cool. What does the girl look like? (not asking you specifically, just anyone who has an image of her in general)
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>>341868119
All those except Patrat are decent/good designs.
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>>341876219
I feel like most pokemon have very clear intentions behind their designs.
A lot of the first stages try to be cute while their evolutions are usually cool and more menacing, while others are weird and goofy looking, like dunsparce or garbodor.
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>>341877597
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>>341869309
So this is x/y? It's on season 18 now?
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>>341877805
gayest fucking character design I've ever seen
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I just hate how soft and round the Pokemon designs/the art style have become desu.

Not a single rough edge on any of these motherfuckers anymore, feela like they're all made from the ground up to be plush toys now.
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>>341877805
i only see girls here
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>>341877805
Getting a May/Haruka vibe from the girl, but I'm guessing hair will be customizable like it was in X/Y
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>>341877176
Not with those fucking clown shoes
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>>341877805
Great. 8 girls. Where are the guys?
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>>341878172
would you?
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>>341869864
we digimon nao
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>>341877438
>top tier older protagonists rather than kids
>interesting Rival, only uses local pokemon
>focus on story
>Gym leaders actually do something and involved in the story helping you fight the bad team
>Postgame content

These completely made up the lackluster Pokemon selection. Hell even if it's kind of lackluster all Unova pokemons have coherent design that blends well into each other. I think this also help sets the tone and artstyle, no Unova pokemon with exception of the legendaries are more overdesigned/underdesigned than other Unova pokemon.

When you have Gen 1 and Gen 4 pokemon right next to each other available at the start on high res 3D model, the artstyle clash become super apparent
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>>341870117

You would have to be retarded to want Megabro to be anything else.
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>>341878313
>>341878172
There are no genders in Gen 7 anymore. They won't ask if you're a boy or a girl.
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>IT'S THIS THREAD AGAIN
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>>341870319

>whacky
>h

full_retard.jpg
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>>341877140
>Hating legs for fucking days
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Aside from gen 3 Zigzagoon, whatever the fuck that gen 6 rabbit is, and what I presume is the thing from gen 7, all of those are fine. You cannot really say every gen after 1/2 are bad when there have been good and bad ones. Gen 3 and 6 were shit, and 4 and 5 are great. Maybe gen 7 or 8 will be fantastic.
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>>341868119
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>>341877819
The show's on season 19 now, Pokémon: XY&Z.

And Ash is somehow still 10 years old.
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>>341869567
desu I really like the design of most gen 7 mons so far
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>>341878528
>3 and 6 were shit, and 4 and 5 are great. Maybe gen 7 or 8 will be fantastic.
Top tier taste
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>>341878337
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>>341878639
Hope I can find a decent 720p torrent. Thanks anon. I miss pokemon, this shit looks tight
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>>341878074
Haxorus before & after the transition to Gen 6 makes me want to cry.
It's like they took a belt sander to the poor guy.
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>>341869864
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>>341878528
>>341878658
>zigzagoon
>bad

>bidoof
>good

Get the fuck out of here.
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>>341868704
I want to fuck that Braixen with Serena witnessing the whole thing
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>>341878506
>covered by tights
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>>341878843
Literally JUST
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>>341878480
Ah, Deja vu...
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>>341871294

While the XY animation is really nice, I will still never forgive them for not animating Hilda+Hilbert.
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>>341870116
>Buzzwordfag
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>>341878887
>Hating tights

What is this bullshit
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>>341878409
im fine with goofyness but the way the entire things balances on top of the tail tip is too stupid

should have been something like this
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>>341873449
my guess is that rock pokemon left behind better remains allowing them be more easily revived
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>>341879357
That still looks fucking stupid
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>>341868119
Zigzagoon is one of my favorites and it's the cutiest of this picture.
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>>341877180
Except Masked Rider came out after Power Rangers
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>>341879212
>never being able to see sweat or muscle tone
It's okay, anon. Your balls will drop one day.
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>>341879475
Is that the artist who drew the slutty elf of Vitamin Quest?
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>>341878616
Bidoof is good in an ironic way
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>>341879475
>more skin is more sexy
I'm afraid taste doesn't come to everyone.
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>>341871882
>Entire image is just
>That's dumb
>"NO YOU'RE DUMB, IDIOT"
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>>341871002
Good news for you, Anon.
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>>341878843
Dude when did pokeman become evangelion
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>>341871725

Okay fine I'll tell you why you're retarded.

MegaAmp regains wool, which the pokedex has said, since day 1, is the way the line generates more energy. Having large puffy hair/tail was a smart and obvious choice, based on everything we know about the line.
Mega Slowbro isn't the thing that mega evolves.

"Add more zippers" is a bad concept and everyone except FF devs has known this for decades.
"Add a cape" is a bad concept and everyone except high school outcasts has known this for decades.

The majority of "Generic Fluff" needs to be "Good Concept" because it keeps entirely in line with the purposes of the lines in question. The only things that should remain are the Gen1 starters (and add Megaoise here), Mewtwo (both of them), Big Birb, and Lati@s.
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>>341877176
Where do you live that kids look that gay?
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>>341869180
What the fuck is that!?
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>>341873284

Even if you buy into the "ice cream is bad" meme, 3/4 of his lines are solid.
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>>341879685
Exactly, bitching about how newer Pokemon aren't the same as what you grew up with is dumb.
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>>341878616
This is objectively right.
Honestly I like what I've seen of the new pokemon so far, they seem to be cartoony depictions of real animals for the most part, just like muh genwun. I'd agree that whoever did the 2d art for pokemon in gen one was significantly more talented than anything past gen 2 tho. All the pokemon are in cooler poses and are shaded better.
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>>341868950
>people still deny that gen 1 had the best designs

I'm not even arguing that the actual gen 1 games were the best, because that's so wrong, the GAMES themselves have only improved with very few exceptions.

But hot damn did the designs go down the shitter.
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>>341879739
https://youtu.be/GxC1kXm_AVs?t=296
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>>341879715
Was too easy.
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>>341880019
The Unova mons are all better.
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>>341878667
>Le condescending 90s cartoon post
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>>341879835
meet zygarde
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>>341868119
sentret and zigzagoon are the best
this is not up for debate
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>>341880185
core and 10% im ok with, 50% looks dumb and 100% is fucking digimon tier. What's the story with this guy, is he some weird data pokemon like porygon? If so I might be able to buy it but otherwise it's just fuckin stupid
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Gen 1 is the undeniably best gen.
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>>341880185
>planarian->dog->bigger planarian->galactus
Yes this makes sense.
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>>341879767
In XY, Professor Sycamore states that Mega Stones are mutations of existing stones exposed to the energy of Xerneas/Yvetal or in the case of ORAS Primal energy. Soul Dews are stones that hold the souls of a deceased Lati@s. From this, it can be construed that Latiasite and Latiosite are mutated Soul Dews that held the soul of the opposite Lati@s to create the distinction, which is why they both become the mixed color of purple.

That're a pretty good concept, even if they are boring.
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>>341869567
I don't get it
Aren't these images supposed to make the newer gens look bad?
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>>341871882
>nature copies shit all the time
Fucking what?
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>Trump is a ferret
Nice political commentary nintendo
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>mfw I don't care about petty discussions about design and I enjoy each new generation

You fags would complain about everything. If they somehow stayed 100% faithful to the original style you would bitch that it got stale.
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>>341880327
>Fucking Digimon tier
Gundam.
You mean Gundam, you fucking idiot
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>>341879475
>Hilda
>muscle tone

riiiiiiiiiight
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>>341880369
20 years have passed but fanart, fanart never changes.
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irrefutable
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>>341872212
Kek
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>>341880327
100% form is the protector of France.
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>>341880641
>quality of gen 1
>higher than anything
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>>341880539
They've been doing this new design style for so long that THAT'S gotten stale. They've been doing it since Gen 3 at least.
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>>341880473

Huh. Well, I'll accept it. I don't particularly like it, but at least it makes some sense.
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>>341868119
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Admit it. Pokemon is dead. The design has gone down the shitter. Look at this overdesigned garbage.
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>>341880848
Gen 1 having the most quality designs doesn't mean they were all quality
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>>341880327
He's the nature guardian of Kalos, his cells are spread all over the region and are monitoring nature, when shit gets bad the Core starts collecting cells to transform (with 10%, 50% or 100% of his cells) and protect nature.
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>>341868516
Pretty much this.

Rattata is a boring rat with no memorable features apart from being from gen 1. Zigzagoon was the most memorable of all them until now. And I'm one who doesn't really enjoy gen 3 designs.
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>>341880759
I dare you to compare the legendaries from Gen 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 and tell me they all look the same.

And even there, it's not like I'd give a shit.
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>>341880617
It's okay anon! Like I said, once you hit puberty, you'll come to appreciate girls with curves.
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>>341880848
its based on this
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>>341880327
Zygarde 50% is the only one existing in the current main games, making the obligatory legendary trio with Xerneas and Yveltal. Keeps watch of the ecosystem and balances out the other two in the trio.

Then they added the part about Zygarde being composed of the cores and similarly looking cells.
Dog is one core and 10% of all cells
Snake is two cores and 50% of all cells
Mecha is four cores and all cells.
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>>341880848
More original than anything that came after it
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>>341880935
You fucking genwunners are one of the biggest cancer to ever plague humanity. Look, I have my favourite throughout the gens, but in general I appreciate more or less all of them, but the gen1 superior design meme has to die. If gen5 came first you would complain that gen 1 design are too bland.
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>>341868119
This Pokemon on the bottom will make Kanto great again. He will build a wall against Team Rocket, and Team Rocket will pay for the wall.
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>>341881095
>Legs look like they were rendered on some shitty 3D program
>Rest of the picture is normally drawn
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>caring at ALL about pokemon designs
grasping at straws, genwunners will do anything to try to make others believe their shitty generation was the best in any way
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>>341881095
Hilda is alright but your taste in art of her is terrible.
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>>341880473
Accidentally deleted a chunk there, meant to say "Latiasite and Latiosite are likely mutated Soul Dews containing the soul of the opposite Lati@s to create the distinction,"
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>>341868119

There is literally nothing wrong with any of them rodent/critter designs.
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>>341881095
this is a really shitty picture
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>>341881342
not a genwunner (I like all of the pokemon games but gen 3/4 are objectively the worst, especially 3 since it didn't even have cool starters) but I think gen one's 2d art looks by far the best. Whoever they have as the artist now doesn't bother shading the mons at all, they're just digital prints with very little/no time spent on the finer details.
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Misty is better than Dawn, May, Iris and Serena and the only girl with any personality. Also Rosa's hair is dumb.
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>>341881307
nice opinion you got there, buddy
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>>341881368
>not wanting pokemon to have fuckable designs.
I cant get off to art that isn't on model so if the model isn't hot I riot.
Litten is pretty good but 1 pokemon does not a gen make.
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>>341881378
>taste in art
literally just pulling from a booru
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>>341869150

just like how Naruto invented Ninjas and Dark Souls invented difficulty.

Get with the times old man.
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>>341880185
Is this supposed to be an evolutionary progression 'cause that is not how evolution works.
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>>341868704
>Pokemon Contests

God I miss them. I hope sun/moon has it
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Pokemon was never going to be able to have a static, unchanging art or design style, not unless it had failed and died in gen 1.
Have you seen how many different persons have been designing pokemons over the years, or even in a single generation?
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>>341881342
I don't care much about the bland/overdesigned meme debate, what's important is harmony, proportions and colors.

Pidgey looks good, there's nothing wrong with it. It's harmonious, the colors don't clash and aren't too in your face, it looks pretty cute and cartoony, but not so much it stops looking like an animal.

Magmars design is confused as all hell, he's composed of 90% balls with some random spikes and landsknecht arms with a fucking duck beak out of nowhere. His colors aren't that bad though. Most pokemon released after gen1 are more like Magmar and less like Pidgey. That's not to say they're all like that, there's plenty good stuff in the hundreds of mons released after 1, it's just that most of them aren't that good.
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>Pokemon will NEVER have designs as fucking awful as gen 5's again
Feels great, I love all the gen 7 mons revealed so far
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>>341881568
Your problem seems to derive from the new drawing techniques. It's been more than 20 since RB. Back then Sugimori drawed by hand each one of them by hand. Nowadays they use computers for the final drawings, and surprise surprise, Sugimori has still to green light them (I think he does the final artworks too, but I'm not sure).
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>>341881658
Is that supposed to make you not a total fucking pleb?
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>>341881701
It's really just arranging it's individual cells in a way more advanced than a normal animal would.
It's also a legendary.
Don't question it
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>>341881651
>5 pokemon shown total
>counting your pokemon before they're revealed
>out of probably 60 or so new pokemon that'll be in S&M
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>>341881983
Individual cells that are organisms on their own as well
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>>341882063
none, because pokemon can't be impregnated by human semen
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>>341881954
Posting pictures from a booru makes you a pleb now?
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>>341882063
Ditto, cause then I could fuck anyone and anything I want.
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>>341868119
I only like Furret, although Zigzagoon is cute if it gets an everstone Yungoos is ok, not the best but not Patrat/Watchog tier awful.
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>>341880719
Do you realize how retarded your post is?
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>>341881248
>50% is the only one existing in the current main games

Good. Fuck that 100%. 100% is the embodiment of every terrible design choice that has accumulated throughout this franchise in 20 years. Along with that shitty Water/Fire pokemon.
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>>341871178

So are we gonna do this every 3-4 years, cause this bait is getting old right now.
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the best
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>>341870798
I kind of want to see more like this
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>>341882379
Gonna ask the same question to you buddy. Explain how each gen1 game isn't archaic to say the least.
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>>341882510
Not that anon but

>Archaic

Is this the new buzzword for the underage to spout?
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>>341868119
I'm split between playing Platinum or White 2/Black 2. Any Pokemon players want to let me know which choice would be the right one?
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and there we have it folks, another pokemon thread hit 500 posts

I hope you autists are proud
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>>341882667
If you're not him then don't get involved when adults talk, kid.

And I bought Red at launch, so you have an idea of how old I am.
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>>341882409
Current though, it will be definitely in Sun/Moon.
Volcanion also looks better when you realize it isn't actually an onion with limbs tacked on.
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>>341882693
platinum is objectively the better game. B/W2 is more current
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>>341871640
I don't really see gen III. But the rest are pretty spot on. Gen 2 is derpy as fuck.
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>>341882754
why is it so angry
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>>341870798

>That woodpecker design

I really like this picture.
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>>341882693
Depends, do you want to face new pokemon or new mixed with old? How much do you care about graphics?
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>>341874621
This is the fate of all pokemon threads on /v/, genwar faggotry.
We are condemned souls, this is hell.
Make yourself comfortable.
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>>341882853
>And I bought Red at launch

Good for you, so did I, both red and blue. And then Yellow when it came out.

>Kid

Yeah, I'm convinced you're underage and are merely pretending at this point.

>>341882895
I just can't agree. Everything about its design is horrible.
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>>341869567
>that bottom row
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>>341874621
100% of pokemon threads here are faggots complaining about MUH DESIGNS so they're doomed to be the same.
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>>341882954
Because it's always hungry.
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>>341882409
>>341882895
Also, Pokemon Shuffle has all forms except core, 100% has a TCG card and I think it is also in Tretta
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>>341882931
Cool, is it the region design or something that elavates it?
Both games look solid, want to name some pros and cons? I sort of prefer the more old school look to Platinum's character designs.
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>>341883130
>Yeah, I'm convinced you're underage and are merely pretending at this point.

Hey, I'm not the first one that called the other underage out of the blue, m8

So what's your problem about the word archaic? Because it sums up perfectly how gen1 games aged compared to others, especially from gen4 on.
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>>341882954
Because it knows it's inferior to other earlygame rodents.
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ITT people cry about not being in a target audience anymore and try to justify it with incredibly forced "art criticism" to make it look like they're not just whiny salty cuntrags.
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>>341883060
Genwars are just console wars with another name.

>>341883130
And that's your opinion. Personally I like the steam turbine pokemon.
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>>341883338
>What's your problem with the word archaic

It literally means nothing except age. It's like the term toxic has become, a misnomer to seem articulate. Calling something old is not synonymous with bad. You want to say why it's bad, then fucking say it.

>>341883480
You can like it, but you can't not admit it's a shit design.

>Cat head on an onion body
>Two giant tubes sticking out the top
>Ugly segmented portions of its body
>The feet from an elephant
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>>341880705
He's not that good at it, lol.
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>>341883610
>Cat head on an onion body
>Two giant tubes sticking out the top
>Ugly segmented portions of its body
>The feet from an elephant

>All this subjectivity
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>>341882510
Because that image is an upward trend, your personal bias doesn't make old games worse because they added quality of life shit in later.
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>>341883610
>You want to say why it's bad, then fucking say it.

Uuuuuuh, my apologies. Then just pick my post and replace "archaic" with "outdated", and if even that doesn't satify you taste, replace it with "the mechanics were such a bloody fucking mess that it took them 4 damn gens to finally fix all the problems the first games had and make them garbage to play today outside of nostalgia".
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>>341883879
Look, for what they were when they came out, they're fine, if we ignore some things like the type chart being completely trashed by psychic and throwing balance out of the window. But as games they didn't age all that well.
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