Was it any good?
Its decent. Wait for the 40 extra minutes of extended cut.
>>341828384
Duncan Tolkien is a a boring old Guy Jones has posted on Twitter that so far there are no plans for a Directors/Extended Cut
Also adding another 40 minutes to this mess wont fix it
>>341828384
How accurate was it to the game, lore-wise?
>>341828574
Pretty accurate.
When you try to make a movie for everybody you make a movie that appeals to no one
>panders to diversity
>SJW media outlets still turn on you because the orc invasion reminds them of the "refugee" crisis
kek
>>341828251
>those fucking mages
They look like warcraft players, disgusting ugly as sin oilbags, rather than the characters those people would play
What the fuck were they thinking.
>>341828251
https://youtu.be/YtymmqbEmKw
>>341828672
>>341828574
Not incredibly, they changed it to be better understood by normies.
That being said, you could take this in place of the original story and it changes very little.
It was actually a pretty decent movie, i expected it to just be a shitty cgi fest but they did a good job.The fights were the best part.
it sucked
>>341828251 (OP)
No, it was pretty bad, and that's coming from a big fan of the Warcraft games.
It wasn't abysmal, but it wasn't really okay or average either.
>>341828574
Somewhat accurate with a few retcons. Overall the story is more or less the same.
>>341828574
non accurate at all
its warcraft only in name
Stormwind doesn't even fall
Even if they wanted to make a sequel they would have to invent a completely different story
Like theres not a single thing they didnt change
>>341828251
It's not as bad as the scores say it is, but it's not good either. It's rather average and I could see why someone would rate it lower if they don't know anything about warcraft. They are some major lore fucks up like stormwind not being razed, the pacing being awful, and some of the scenes just looking odd.
5/10, watch it online and make your opinion.
Nonsensical plot and characters, awful visual effects. Just as bad as the Hobbit but gets more credit because it's a video game movie that doesn't look like italian porn from the 90s.
>>341828251
It's cool, but it got confuse with no backstory most of the time. Also the best part FUCKING Gul'dan!
Saw it tonight. I played WoW for years (stopped at the release of Cataclysm) and understood everything going on, but the movie was just bad. The only people who think it's good are fanboys excited about their videogames being on screen. The pacing is garbage. The characters get no motivation, the plot points get no setup, and the acting is pretty sub-par.
It simply does not work as a film.
>>341833756
What more backstory could you possibly need? It's the plot of WC1, the very first incarnation of warcraft. There is no backstory.
>>341828327
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>>341834053
Are you fucking kidding me? We're finally getting representation as gamers through this movie. The least you could do is show some fucking enthusiasm by supporting the film.
>>341828574
the only solid inaccuracy i saw was medivh's death
>>341834373
>finally getting representation as gamers
>>341834373
>representation as gamers
>>341834373
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>>341828251
>>341833756
One more thing, does anybody Hellscream and Kargath were in the movie?
I was really fucking cynical about the movie during production and actually found it to be pretty gud.
Sure; it's not the most thought provoking film and it's got some really thick layers of cheese in some areas (though it's Warcraft, so that's to be expected).
It's loud, campy and colorful as fuck. It's a video game movie of all things, so the fact that it's even palatable is a gift from the heavens.
>>341828870
Agreed. I was like wtf who casted this pathetic neckbeard as Khadgar.
>>341828672
>>341829645
do you people even know the real lore?
>>341828251
its okay. people who say its bad are just trolling or massive nerds
>>341833375
>>341833692
Stormwind wasn't razed because the movie didn't cover the entire arc of the first war; it was mostly just the opening of the portal. Though based on how it ended, yeah it looks like Blizz is setting it up for a major retcon where the horde never fully invades Azeroth and Stormwind pushes back.
>>341833756
>that scene when Gul'dan ditched the robe to fight
>>341834373
>muh representashuns
>>341834674
Kargath shows up like once near the end if you know who to look for.
Hellscream shows up like twice and gets one really short line I think.
>>341834880
Hahahais this from the actual movie? Look at his pathetic mustache oh my god.
>>341834373
Here, I made this post especially for (You)
>>341828251
It was good IMO
Not a masterpiece 10/10, but worth the watch.
I was also sedated by movie theater nachos so I dont know if my opinion counts.
>>341834146
Because blizzard shoved a shit load of backstory that occurred before WC actually begins, to the point where it's necessary to understand it before jumping into WC.
>>341835349
Watch your mouth! Thats the grand archmage Khadgar youre talking about!
>>341835475
But theres no backstory
they axed everything
non of the important shit is in the movie
>>341834373
>We're finally getting representation as gamers
>>341835552
When you remove the demons and shit and just say "it's fel" people aren't going to get it.
If you're a Warcraft fan with some lore knowledge, you'll like it.
If you're not, then you might not.
The start is very rushed and chaotic, I think there was a lot of cut content there. They also didn't finish the first war.
There were a fair amount of retcons, the only one that really bothered me wasLlane's assassination.
I look forward to the extended cut, I know Grom is supposed to have some lines. Really hope we get sequels, they haven't even touched on the Legion yet, except a brief cameo by Sargeras.
>>341835903
They also removed nerzul shaman stuff the shadow council and all that
They also didnt mention the reason they invaded azeroth was becasue they were constantly warring with each other
Guldan was the one to open the portal
Ogrim is a frostwolf
Like
all their """"""Backstory""""""""""
is all fucked
Theres no way of making a sequel that isnt completely made up
>>341835991
>If you're a Warcraft fan with some lore knowledge, you'll like it.
more like want to shoot up the oscars and blizz offices
>>341836187
>They also didnt mention the reason they invaded azeroth was becasue they were constantly warring with each other
In the movie, Durotan mentioned the reason they invaded Azeroth was because their home world (Draenor) was dying. But I don't recall Draenor dying in WC1. It only started to die when Ner'zhul opened a shitload of portals towards the end of WC2.
>>341836187
They can still get Nerzhul in there I think.
>>341836294
Yeah, I'm wondering if they'll still shoehorn the blood in there somehow anyways, or just make Mannoroth a prime wielder of fel magic.
A typical action movie will follow this formula. Not every movie does or even should follow it, but it's a good rule of thumb especially for a big summer blockbuster.
Warcraft spends almost no time on exposition. The characters, their motivations, and the world they inhabit is completely glossed over.
The initiating conflict is told, not shown. We hear about the orcs invading villages but the only scene where we actually see it happen comes later, and the action is off in the distance while the camera focuses on Durotan brooding.
The rising action is spotty at best, with almost no engagement between the humans and the orcs except for the first outing where they capture Garona, and the Blackrock canyon scene about 2/3rds in. The Medivh betrayal plot is set up slightly better but is also confusing and unclear.
The climactic battle scene is pretty to look at but don't really accomplish much. Durotan sacrifices himself to reveal Gul'dan's demonic nature, but nothing comes of it and the orcs fight for him anyway. The king has Garona kill him to ensure she gains respect as a peaceful voice in orc society, but all she does is let Anduin go and Gul'dan seems to still be in charge. Anduin himself arrives after the battle is over, kills only one orc of any importance (Blackhand), and then leaves with the king's body. The only plotline with any resolution is when Khadgar and Anduin kill Medivh.
Pretty much nothing comes to a satisfying conclusion. The humans save a few people but still lose, the orcs are still around and kinda evil, Anduin thinks Garona betrayed them, and Thrall floats down a river. The end.
A middle schooler could write a better screenplay.
>>341836514
they're probably going with the whole shadowmoon shit, as in the world is dying because the warlocks have already started fucking shit up.
I don't remember if shadowmoon valley was drained before or after the dimensional collapse.
>>341828251
It was gooder than good.
>>341836673
The Durotan thing sets up Orgrim to take over.
>>341836858
The movie is all setup and no payoff.
As someone who knows nothing about Warcraft
I really liked Orc Moses
And that 1.2 second scene of those hot slutty elves walking across the screen in bikini tops
>>341836931
I can agree to this.
I guess the reason I didn't mind so much was because I know more or less what comes next.
If I didn't know the lore, I likely would have not liked this movie.
>>341836514
Draenor was dying after Nerzul opened a shiton of dark portals which tore the world appart
>>341836541
>They can still get Nerzhul in there I think.
Doesn't matter if they do, nothing will make sense because they changed too much
>Yeah, I'm wondering if they'll still shoehorn the blood in there somehow anyways, or just make Mannoroth a prime wielder of fel magic.
Thats not the point of the picture
>Fel orcs are red
>non fel are green
>In the movie they are green when fell brown default
fucking shit movie
>>341836858
Ogrim backstabbed blackhand after the first failed invasion of stormwind, not only because he failed but blackhand was Guldan's puppet, ogrim hated gul dan. He usurped the control of the horde after that destroyed stormwind and kept marching north for wacraft 2 which is essentially a world war
Its fucking stupid they changed that
Tell me about Andre, Why does he put that wall?
>>341837068
Well alright then
>>341837021
>And that 1.2 second scene of those hot slutty elves walking across the screen in bikini tops
Yeah that was one of the few things the movie had going for it.
>>341828574
let's see
>stormreavers don't exist
>shadow council doesn't exist
>pretty much none of the orc clans except for the frostwolf are ever mentioned
>gul'dan is directly in command of the horde, blackhand serves no purpose at all
>orcs are all brown, only gul'dan is green
>shitty lothar+garona romance out of nowhere
>fall of stormwind doesn't exist
it shits all over the established warcraft storyline
>>341828251
Tons of plot holes that will be left empty if you don't know a thing about the lore.
Story is simplified (green mana is evil) but at the same time it feels incomplete and almost silly due to how simplified the story is. Who knows if it can be fixed if there is a sequel.
If you are a warcraft fan you may like the movie but otherwise stay away.
>>341828771
Outside humans being of all shapes and color I don't think they pandered
>>341837068
>Calling out the movie for the color of the orcs
>doesn't even know the warcraft 1 orcs were green
>doesn't know the rule is: Brown = untainted orc Green = first dose of demon blood Red = second big dose for a super charge
>>341837251
We don't know if Stormwind is getting sacked or not. There was nothing that said it wouldn't
>>341828771
Angry birds already did that.
>>341837251
>>orcs are all brown, only gul'dan is green
Objectively wrong.
>>341834965
Do YOU?
>>341837251
I think the only brown orcs were the Frost Wolves, Ogrim and Blackhand.
>>341828574
Not even close to Warcraft, they changed everything to pander to WoW-fags.
>>341837251
>>pretty much none of the orc clans except for the frostwolf are ever mentioned
literally the second thing Durotan does in the entire movie is point out other clans
Didn't the orcs drink the blood of Mannoroth BEFORE they went through the dark portal? I thought that's why in WC1 all the orcs were green. The opening scene showed all the orcs prepping to invade Azeroth were brown. Later, Gul'dan mentioned after they successfully opened the portal a second time to let the entire horde through, he would "give them the gift of the fel," which I'm assuming was the blood of Mannoroth.
It was pretty cool
I loved how the orcs looked, moved and fought in the movie
Watching Doomhammer smack shit was amazing
Sure they adjusted the lore more to fit the current WoW lore and to simplify it, but there were still some bits that only made sense if you know them yourself (why Medivh is "evil", who are the draenei, what was the deal with elves, Na'ru etc)
>>341838019
Nah, it was in Azeroth
And the "gift of the fel" was just infusing them with fel magic, it's to fit the current lore basically, since all the fel orcs in Outlands are just corrupted by fel magic and not necessarily drank any blood
>>341828251
Everything wrong with the movie was with the story.
To put it short, Warcraft 1's story is a pile of flaming dog shit and Warcraft 2/dark portal isn't any better.
The best actors in the industry and the best CG will never be able to fix that fact.
I went into it having not read any reviews hoping to be pleasantly surprised but the movie just sucked ass. 80% of the movie is shitty dialogue and exposition. The acting is half-assed and everyone looks embarrased, they should have picked actors who were willing to embrace the camp and ham it up a bit.
Visually the full-CGI scenes (i.e the orc camp scenes) looked alright, but anything with an element of live action looked tacky as shit. The battle scenes needed more gore; not in an edgy way it just felt limp without it.
The worst part was that even the battle scenes were boring. I mean it's standard for this type of movie to be poor from a plot-development perspective but if it doesn't even have good action what's the point?
I don't understand how anybody could like this movie. It retcons too much for the diehard fans, yet has nothing to set it apart from the dozens of similar films in the eyes of casual viewers.
>for azeroth
what did he mean by this?
From the view of someone who's never played a Warcraft game I'd give it a 6 out of 10.
The orc storyline was very well done. I actually gave a fuck about the main chieftain and got pretty into the conflict between the Frostwolves and Gul'Dan. The ORc parts were very pretty to look at too and the action scenes were fucking wicked.
On the other hand the entirety of the human side of the story was a total massive fucking snooze fest. Any part with only humans looked like it was shot in the fucking 80's. The camera angles were total ass and the effects were complete and utter garbage. Dungeons and Dragons from fucking 2001 had better effects than that shit.
You can literally see the divide of the budget in the final army fight with the orcs looking awesome and the humans looking like they're fighting in front of a fucking green screen.
>>341838392
They really should have scrapped the lore and done something original. The movie as it stands is complete garbage.
>>341837407
Except not
W3 retconned fel orcs to be red
When you go to outlands in w3 there are plenty of red orcs
in thralls book it says orcs shrinked and cahnged their skin color to green from red
I've never played Warcraft.
From a critical standpoint though, the romance was really fucking hamfisted.
>>341838019
Yes. Draenor was also intact (still a barren shithole, but intact) until the end of Warcraft II where Ner'zhul opened a ton of portals because the Alliance were carving their way through the last remnants of the orc army that had retreated back through the portal.
>>341838392
>Warcraft 1's story is a pile of flaming dog shit
>"evil demon-possessed monsters are coming to kill us all because one of our most powerful mages was possessed by one of the most powerful demons"
The story is simple but it works. It just wouldn't be allowed to exist at this point because it paints the orcs as vile murderousrefugees/invaders that are ruining a perfectly good world for no reason other than they can.
>Dalaran is already flying
HAH WAW
>>341838531
That's probably because they DID fight in front of a green screen. It's the same problem that happened with the Star Wars prequels, where the actors don't know what they're doing because they're actually standing there in front of a screen and being told to imagine their surroundings.
>>341838602
Which is a shame because if you watch it you can tell that they really gave it a good try.
But when you look at the story and consider the source material, you realize that it will always fall short and that is the biggest disappointing fact about the movie. It never had the chance to be great.
>>341834674
All of the warchiefs except for Ner'zhul were in the movie, which is accurate because during the events of WC1 Ner'zhul was in a coma on draenor.
>>341838837
I understand that but there are plenty of examples of that being done well. Even when the humans were just talking the acting was atrocious. Especially the supposed comic relief mage guy.
>>341833714
cute gif
>>341828251
If you go in with low expectations it's fairly entertaining action movie that remains engaging throughout and has some pretty decent fight sequences.
I would say that the two main reasons that it got trashed are because it's a video game movie (automatic -50% on RT from critics) and it doesn't go out of its way to info dump character backstories, which makes it harder for normies to fully understand.
There are some cliches that get pushed a bit too hard and some overly cheesy scenes, but on the whole it's a top quality action block buster that I would have watched over the likes of avengers 2.
>>341839078
more or less how i felt about the movie, the only thing i would say is that all of the fight scenes were pretty bland with the exception ofthe duel between durotar and gul'dan
6/10
>>341839078
>t. only watches movies for the pretty colors
>>341839078
Every fucking film that's garbage is somehow redeemed by prefacing it with "well if you just don't expect much - if you just want to see cool action sequences - if you just want to see really great visuals" fuck that. It's the same mentality that's killing videogames. We should curb our entertainment around the idea that something will be mediocre or lackluster. Surely then everything will be better for it.
I didn't think the movie was that great but the backgrounds were amazing. Goldshire inn being completely recreated was very nice, all the districts in stormwind were colored differantly just in the game and if you pay attention to the roofs you can find the stores and buildings from the game. There is even a scene where Gul'dan is talking to Mannoroth in the background.
>>341839431
>There is even a scene where Gul'dan is talking to Mannoroth in the background.
???? when
>Story is rushed and badly paced
>CGI looks good
>Mix of CGI and liveaction is disgusting to look at, pretty much Prequels tier
>Terrible acting
>Awful fighting choreography when the camera pans to show the various fights
>Bad costumes and props
>Quips in what's supposed to be a serious war-setting
>Too much focus on Garona and other drama, not the war itself
I give it a 4/10
>>341839078
Except it actually is hot garbage
The live action stuff looks fucking laughable when it's next to the CGI, and even by itself all the sets, costume designs, even the actors themselves look terrible. The acting is god awful, the character motivations for everyone save Durotan are all over the place and make basically no sense, there are no character arcs and the pace of the movie is all over the place. On top of that the story is confusing as fuck if you aren't a WoW fag
I'm sick of people going with this retarded "well if you just shut off your brain" meme. I can like simple action blockbusters, but they still have to be well made and they have to be entertaining. 80% of this fucking movie is people sitting and talking or walking and talking. It's boring as fuck and I sincerely don't know how anyone would find it enjoyable just because it was a couple of slightly less mediocre scenes
>>341834373
>We're finally getting representation as gamers
>>341828251
The orc parts were all really good, the human parts all sucked.
>>341839246
>all of the fight scenes were pretty bland
The sight of proper battles with mooks dying on either side is pretty refreshing to me, since the only blockbusters I've seen recently are cape movies. Definitely better action sequences than what I saw from the first hobbit movie or lord of the rings, for instance, though.
>>341839273
>We should curb our entertainment around the idea that something will be mediocre or lackluster.
Fucking millennials, I tell you what. Hollywood has always made summer blockbusters with iffy artistic merit and cheesy plots, I feel bad for you if you can't appreciate these sorts of film, as well as more sophisticated films.
The reason I mentioned going in with low expectations is because a whole swathe of (arguably) better hollywood action movies have come out recently, so if you go hoping for a starwars/civil war/deadpool level of quality, then you will be disappointed.
The movie was fucking garbage.
How can anyone actually like it? There will NEVER EVER be a good video game movie
>>341839963
The assassins creed movie has potential.
>>341839078
The reasons it got trashed were because most of the dialogue and interactions between the actors were bad, most of the acting was atrocious (Not all, but most), a lot of scenes were shoehorned in that seemed so out of place (Anduin+Garona romance, Anduin's son's death, Medivh's corruption, etc.), the pacing was awful, and the ending was anti-climatic. Has little to do with the fact that it's a vidya movie or lack of backstories.
>>341839963
The mortal kombat movie is pretty good.
>>341840049
People said the exact same thing about the Warcraft movie? Are You expecting it to be any different?
Lots of changes because they want to appeal to the WoW fans instead of the Warcraft fans.
>There are Draenei in the film due to World of Warcraft
>Fel Magic instead of Demon Blood
>Humans using pistols before The Second War
>Every human wants to help Garona
>Garona isn't an Orc Asssassin
>Garona only stabs Llane because he tells her to do, not because she's an Assassin sent by Gul'dan
>Retarded lovestory between Lothar and Garona for no reason
>Durotan is killed in Mak'Gora by Gul'dan instead of being exiled and fleeing to Alterac
>Blackhand defeated in Mak'Gora by Lothar instead of being betrayed by Orgrim
>Draka stabbed by a random Grunt
>Garona doesn't help kill Medivh/Sargeras
>Dalaran is flying when it shouldn't be before the assault on Northrend
>Orcs are brown due to World of Warcraft
>Thrall is turned green instead of being born that way
>Grom looks like the World of Warcraft version and not the Warcraft 3 version
>Ner'zhul is not shown in the film at all
>No Shadow Council to rule behind the scenes
>Orgrim is a Frostwolf and not a Blackrock
>Blackhand is the Warchief instead of Orgrim
>Gul'dan created "the Horde" and is Blackhand's superior for some reason
>Stormwind doesn't get attacked shortly after Llane's death
>The Alliance is formed without the Sacking of Stormwind
>>341834373
>representation as gamers
>>341839930
>Fucking millennials, I tell you what. Hollywood has always made summer blockbusters with iffy artistic merit and cheesy plots, I feel bad for you if you can't appreciate these sorts of film, as well as more sophisticated films.
There's a difference between something being campy and hot garbage in a charming way and something taking itself very seriously and appreciating itself as an art form and taking its subject matter to a higher level of cognizance yadda yadda yadda but it ends up being fucking ass. If Warcraft took itself as seriously as the Doom film and partook of a similar level of self wankery it would have been great. But it didn't. Warcraft was a film designed for mass appeal and intentions of creating a LotR style epic with far reaching influence.
The reason the film is critiqued as an art piece is because it stylizes itself as one. If you want to be campy action movie made for fun, then you don't shoot yourself or script yourself like Warcraft did.
>>341840049
Potential. Key word.
All vidya movies have POTENTIAL to be really good. There's so much you can do with it. And it always ends up fucking butchered.
Until you get top billing screenwriters, directors and actors working on a video game adaptation that has a lot of material to create a direction, there will NEVER EVER be a good video game movie
>>341840192
Ner'zhul was stuck on draenor during the events of the first war. Doesn't make any sense for him to be in the movie since he doesn't really become relevant until the second war.
>>341828251
Movie was 3/5. Could have been worse but could have been better if had more humor and was more lighthearted considering that's what all Blizzard stuff is. I think there was like a handful of comments that were snicker worthy and the rest they took very seriously. Didn't know most of the characters, so dont know if they're from the game or not. Felt like what LOTR would look if it was done in China by China.
>>341840192
>>Ner'zhul is not shown in the film at all
this is correct though. he wasn't part of the first war.
>>341828251
Not exactly good, but not 18% rotten tomatoes 32 meta score bad.
>>341840192
Half of those things are irrelevant/personal tastes and the other half are changes because it's a movie adaptation of a videogame.
Plus the Draenei are canon since at least Warcraft 3.
>>341840486
>>341840515
I guess I remember incorrectly about him then.
>>341828251
it was fucking garbage. what a surprise.
>>341834880
And yet he was suprisingly the one of the best actors of the human side
>End the movie in Stormwind screaming "For the Alliance!"
>2nd movie starts
>Immediately lose Stormwind and retreat to Lordaeron
They picked a terrible ending point tbqhfam, though they couldnt do a 3 hour movie.
>>341840526
critics panned the movie because it's not muh generic Tolkien fantasy.
>>341840180
Asscreed already has a very "movie" concept through the bloodline memory shit, this means it's very open and malleable.
The only core thing they need is the memory part, the assassin part and the aliens part.
Combined with a decent director it could make a decent film, probably on par with Timeline or similar film.
There is a reason game movies fail and it's typically because
>pretentious/faggot directors pick up videogame films.
>Good directors don't play or care about videogames
>Uwe Boll makes that vast majority of vidya film making it disproportionately bad
>Videogames are a terrible mode of story telling and attract failed writers, ergo bad source material
>The shitters behind the game who own the rights tend to get too involved with the film to the point where you question why you need a director
Based on his prior films Duncan has proven to be a decent director, but blizzard and metzen clearly got too involved, especially with the script.
I only say Asscreed has better potential because it can easily have a looser plot and there is less "metzen" like people on ubisoft to go in there and shove their shit tastes in, maybe.
>>341840930
No they panned it because the entire plot is trash.
>>341840780
Everyone thinks he was horrible, but he honestly wasn't. It was just a bad role for him, but he had some pretty good comedic timing, movement and expression
I thought the try-hard humans were much worse
What the hell is "Fel"?!
I've played all of Warcraft 2, half of Warcfart 3 and got to level 90 in WoW once but never have I heard "Fel" mentioned while the movie is constantly on about it and is basically based around it.
>>341828251
It was surprisingly good for a video game movie. The special effects were amazing, but the bright colors were what kind of broke immersion for me. Worth your money, a solid 7/10
>>341841320
wasn't the plot on the same level with the original WC1. You can't make the argument that the WC1 plot was any better than movie
>>341841394
so you just never read anything in those games
>>341841394
It's referring to fel orcs, those who drank demon blood from Mannoroth and became corrupted
In the movie it's some retarded voodoo magic shit, who knows
>>341841394
Fel magic is Warock/demonic magic.
Fel is the element of disorder.
>>341841438
aside from the fact that they got the entire plot wrong
>>341841394
>I've played all of Warcraft 2, half of Warcfart 3 and got to level 90 in WoW once but never have I heard "Fel"
Literally how
>>341834880
>>341835349
>>341835501
Wasn't Khadgar only in the second game? Was he a survivor of Azaroth?
>>341828251
I really enjoyed it and I'm hoping sequels get greenlit. The whole thing was too rushed though, it would've worked better with an extra half hour.
>>341841572
But that doesn't matter from a critic's point of view who has no idea what a WoW is. And yes I suck dicks from time to time, would like some?
>>341841394
In WoW lore fel is demonic magic.
In the old lore it was pure magic straight from the blood of demons that tempted mages constantly.
It was recently retconned into being disorder magic derived by sacrifice whether it be soul or blood, but it's still found in demons.
The film used fel as an easy way to not show Mannaroth feeding the orcs his blood or go through the convoluted explanation behind Medivh opening the dark portal.
>>341838701
Lion's Gate probably tried to cover all their demographics in case they couldn't make a Tides of Darkness/Beyond the Dark Portal sequel with Alleria and Turalyon.
Llane telling Garona to kill him was garbage. I'm just waiting for Pandaren to make an appearance because Orcs weren't depicted as the assholes they were in Warcraft 1/2.
>>341841745
>critics
>caring what they say
>>341841783
>The film used fel as an easy way to not show Mannaroth feeding the orcs his blood or go through the convoluted explanation behind Medivh opening the dark portal.
It wouldn't take much to show the orcs drinking Mannaroths blood and it would've made the whole thing clearer because normies could watch it and go "oh so there's this big dude who's obviously evil and the orcs drink his blood and become strong and evil too!", which is more obvious that "there's this green magic and unlike blue magic it corrupts you".
>>341842008
>I'm just waiting for Pandaren
They'll never be in a Warcraft movie and thank God for that.
No. It's generic, full of "funny quips", has awful props and a couple of cringe-worthy moments. Not even worth discussing.
I played WCII and WCIII and WoW from Beta till Burning Crusade.
I liked this movie a lot, but I wish they didn't skimp out and cut so much content. Movie would have been fantastic if it didn't seem so rushed and had more scenes, mostly the humans. Otherwise was just really enjoyable.
Also, mygirlfriendwho knows basically nothing about Warcraft really enjoyed the movie, had no problem following who was who and what was going on, and really loved the Orcs.
Shame even with China success we may not get another. We probably won't even get the extended version, oh well.
>>341837068
>Ogrim backstabbed blackhand after the first failed invasion of stormwind, not only because he failed but blackhand was Guldan's puppet, ogrim hated gul dan. He usurped the control of the horde after that destroyed stormwind and kept marching north for wacraft 2 which is essentially a world war
Wrong. He killed him because he was ordered to do so by Guldan. Blackhand was a puppet, but his reason for betraying him was because he saw and opportunity and took it. https://youtu.be/ZXiGt2PxoNg?t=16m29s
It had nothing to do with Blackhand failing, which he didn't, and everything to do with his own ambition.
>>341833756
i still cant believe Gul'dan got in a manly topless fistfight
>>341840930
The Hobbit movies didn't have the highest reviews either
>>341842741
Also for the record, I enjoyed the Warcraft movie much much much more than the Hobbit movies. My god those were bland.
>>341842031
This, it wouldn't kill them to at least show Guldan talking to mannoroth or some shit in secret.
Medivh would be impossible though, you'd have to explain that WoW Satan possessed him when he was a fetus.
>>341838681
It didn't, stop spewing lies you goddamn idiot.
Excessive fel energy turns everyone red, from Man'ari (eredar) to Fel Blood Elves.
Fel orcs have always been red, their green counterpart are just the first generation of orcs who drank the blood.
Outland orcs are all red in the current timeline.
>>341842009
critics know more than you think.
when something universally panned there's a reason behind that.
>>341836294
im still amazed but what a fucking dork Grom is. the dude is the first of his kind to take part in the demon bullshit that fucks over not only his species but also his planet ...and he just fucking does again. who the fuck drinks demon blood twice?
>>341842943
because orcs are not a noble, wise people. they're power-hungry warriors who will do anything to get stronger.
>>341838185
the Orcs are basically the whole reason to see that movie they were just plan fun to watch. can't wait to see tauren and trolls and so on in later movies
>>341838392
>Everything wrong with the movie was with the story.
>To put it short, Warcraft 1's story is a pile of flaming dog shit and Warcraft 2/dark portal isn't any better.
>>341828574
>How accurate was it to the game, lore-wise?Garona has a thing with LotharBlackhand Dies in a 1 on 1 with LotharGul'dan isn't playing where's waldo in Medivh's head when he dies so he doesnt fall into a comaKhadgar doesn't turn into a grandpaIt's the king's idea for Garona to kill him
>>341838924
Actually Ner'Zhul was there, you could recognize him by the face paint.
Like the other warchiefs, it was a very short cameo though.
>>341838681
the books say brown, it references how they were the color of the earth and yadda yadda shaman stuff
>>341842943
Orcs know only war.
It wasn't until Thrall that the "orcs" learned their mistakes and started cohexisting peacefully with the environment they were given.
Until of course a retarded old-style warmongering brown orc from the outlands who never ever fucking listened to Thrall and his teachings got placed in charge of the Horde and turned it into the old supreme horde militarized organization that it was in the first two wars.
>we will never have the chill shamanistic horde made of outcasts of the world anymore because of garrosh and his fucking mob of idiots
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELtbKblx-3Y
>>341843114
>can't wait to see tauren and trolls and so on in later movies
>later movies
>>341842943
When you've got a super pissed off centaur demi-god with tree branches for hair ready to fuck you and all your species off the planet because you cut down a few trees, you too would consider drinking demon blood if it meant survival.
>>341834373
>finally getting representation as gamers
>>341842157
Yeah. We cant afford to have them get ruined by the awfulness of the movies.
>tfw no weeaboo blademaster orc with 6 foot katana in the movie
They had one chance.
>>341843295
if you think they arn't making more than your naive. shit made stacks in china...for some reason
>>341836294
>fel orcs are red
Posts out of context image with claim
Green=exposure to fel magic
Red=infused with fel magic
>>341843403
The Burning Blade clan wasn't in the movie, along a hundred more clans and minor clans.
They just retconnected everything to WoD.
>>341834880
>neckbeard wearing a towel
Could they not get any good actors?
>>341843035
ya but when you burn your hand you learn not to touch the burner again. Grom is dumb as a brick
>>341842908
This is yes
>>341843491
Total amount so far is 300 mill, I've read that it would take about 500 mill for it to make enough profit to warrant a sequel.
But maybe China will front the bill, since it smashed their box offices.
>>341843576
as are all orcs.
see: garrosh hellscream.
>>341843393
kek, whatever you say furfag.
>>341843571
If you didn't get it, he was the "player" of the movie.
He even was fucking confirmed by the director that he "leveled up" (even made the noise) after saving Medivh and purging the Fel out of himself.
It's no wonder he's a chunky neckbeard.I liked him.
>>341843296
Grom brought the whole scenario on himself. thrall tells him not to cause trouble and he starts a race war and then he starts to get his ass beat almost instantly
>>341843508
leave him alone, he's an idiot and an antiwow drone
>>341828251
yes
>>341843515
Haven't played WoW since Burning Crusade. What did WoD do to the lore? Besides all the normal fuckery of "now you kill ILLIDIN. now you kill ARTHAS." etc
>>341843189
I don't understand why they had to do the first one
>>341843261
Garrosh was a fine leader befitting the title of war-chief until Metzen decided that they needed a raid boss and that it was going to be Garrosh so they 180'd his charachter
>>341843631
garrosh is a bad example just because he's grom's kid. the stick doesn't fall to far from the tree and whatnot
I thought the movie was a 7/10. Yes Im a WoW fanboy but it was freaking awesome to watch the mage spells and their eyes going all blue while casting spells
The only bad CGI was the dwarfs(why not hire real dwarfs?)
>>341840930
I LOVE KATIA
>>341843491
The movie grossed $300 million worldwide on a budget of $160 million, mostly thanks to China. It flopped hard in North America only netting about $25 million. Between marketing and advertising, they need far more than $300 million before even considering greenlighting a sequel.
>>341843784
The same goes for draenei as well. I think the minor exposure would be broken.
>>341843832
ALL MOVIES NEED ROMANCE MAN
IT MAKES PEOPLE CONNECT MANNNNN
DON'T DEVIATE FROM THE NORM, MANNNNNNNNNNNNNN
>that implication that Medivh is Garona's daddy
>>341843849
garrosh wasn't raised by grom, however, and was, in fact, raised with stories about how badly his father fucked up and fucked over the orc race.
>>341843806
>Gul'dan is alive again and still evil
>Demons are immortal and trancend the time space Continium
>Most of the clans Don't matter/Didnt Exist
>Thrall is a cheater
>>341843806
The entirety of WoD is an alternate universe that poses the concept of had the orcs never drank the blood of Mannoroth in the first place which dramatically changes the plot of WC1 forward.
>>341843806
Whitewashed orcs. Again. Reminding us that they're incapable of being wrong.
Mainly because drooling underadged edgelords like >>341842157 can't comprehend anything that doesn't scream blood and thunder over and over.
>>341844168
>muh pandas
>>341844168
Fuck off furfag.
I'd say it was a meh movie. Its the type of movie that if I was bored on a Saturday night and it came on TV I would watch for shits and giggles. I regret paying too see it though and I feel like my money could have been better spent .
I know there are people who lived the effects but I personally thought they were cheesy as fuck and almost cringe worthy at times. The story was also all over the fucking place to the point where I wouldn't take people who never played the game too see it because I don't think they'd know whats going on.
I'd rate it a 5/10 maybe.
>>341844546
The orcs were realer than real though
>>341843784
>>341843883
If draenei are added to the chart, it should be noted that they become huge as fuck. Or as least some of them do.
It was good. Flawed in many ways but way betetr than it deserved to be and I'm a cynic when it comes to anything Warcraft related.
More backstory was needed for some characters and some characters and scenes needed to be cut completely.
Give more time with the Orcs on Draenor, more build up with Lothar and Azeroth as a whole, get rid of the Lothars son, Alodi cube and forced Garona love plot completely and it would have been far better.
7/10
I consider this movie to be a huge retard check and I cant believe how some people say they werent able to keep up. Its the most basic shit and anyone who couldnt follow were probably too busy thinking about how they were going to go on the internet and shit on it throughout the movie.
>>341843846
Indeed, he wasn't actually a bad leader, but he definitely jumped the shark when he went "muh true horde" and started holocausting the trolls and everything that isn't a buff red orc.
Thank you based China for all but confirming a sequel for this
>Warcraft II opens with Stormwind getting destroyed and we get to see the Lordaeron and the Alliance getting formed for realz on the big screen
shits gonna be so cash
>>341843883
>>341845036
Draenei are different, nobody knows what the Man'ari looked like when they weren't the red fel-fueled monstrosities we see now in the burning legion (Eredars like archimonde and kil'jaeden) or the light-cucked blue-idiots like Velen and his spawn of light-sucking dicks.
The Broken are just mindless Draenei who became feral after Draenor got royally fucked in the butt by Gul'dan and his mob of "mountain dew vapor wielding" faggots, and thus they became infused with light-levels of fel energy like pretty much everything in the outlands.
>>341846017
Lordaeron was already a human kingdom back then, ruled by the Arathorian empire.
It was the last to fall.
>>341846220
I didnt imply it wasnt already a kingdom
>>341828251
No, entertaining but shit, horde makes the movie bearable but that's all.
>>341845587
wtf was that alodi cube shit anyway?
they had the head people at blizz helping them write this movie and I cant believe they let that shit pass
everyone I know both warcraft fans and not all agree that whole scene was just confusing and crazy out of place
Gonna remind y'all that it's an adaptation. It ain't gonna be exactly like the games. If they feel a need to change things they can throw the caverns of time into the story to retcon within the story itself. Assuming they get to make another movie.
Am I the only one who found Anduins character weird? I didn't remember him being a too cool for you edgelord
also the kinda ruined ogrim
>>341846479
I imagine they didn't cut it straight up because Glenn Close graced the movie with her presence and they didnt want to offend her or some bullshit like that.
They should have just made it Aegwynn and had her explain why Medivh was corrupted so people would have been less confused overall.
It was the worst movie that I've seen this year. Bad acting, bad pacing, you barely get to know the characters, CGI looks like shit. Jones must love big green cock because human side of the story is awfoul compared to muh orcs plot. I've seen it last week and I can't think of one good or memorable scene.
>>341846479
source pls
>>341846927
>CGI looks like shit
Put that at the start of your opinions so I can stop reading earlier
>>341847036
Are you serious? Orcs looked decent, everything else gave me SW prequels vibe. This movie will age like milk.
>>341833756
Gul'dan was one of the few redeeming characters for me. I love how he never fucks around or gloats or falls into the usual villain traps. He was all business, all the time.
>asked if he can spare one space goat child
>"But I need him. I need all of them."
>medith starts to become something
>uh..who the fuck its that guy? looks like a mix of illidian anad somebody
>he tranforms more
>oh now he looks like sergaras
>>341828251
it doesn't matter because nobody on /v/ or /tv/ supports it. I bet like 1 % of the people here actually paid money to see it. Oh also, the opinions here don't matter.
after reading this thread its clear only about 10% of people have read the books
>>341846927
thats because the humans story has always been shit compared to the orcs
>>341848997
I've read a few, mostly the WoW-era ones though.
Yes. Loved it.
No. Hated it.
>>341846479
Kinda confused by that myself but it looked like it was something connected with the Na'ru to tie in BC and draenei lore into this?
I honestly just thought it was a Na'ru changing form for Khadgar
>>341835170
Warcraft 2 will spend half its time on Thrall growing up.
>>341846861
Yeah didn't like that as well. He was the paladin of paladins, not some cocky knight dude bro
>>341834880
>'geiger counter' branding
Maybe. Didn't see it.
>>341849924
>anduin lothar
>paladin
pick one and only one, nigger
I don't know. Can you repeat the question?
>>341849924
>first war
>paladins
>>341842157
Chen will show up if we get more movies, founding of durotar
>>341850714
>Tfw I'll get to see my husbando Rexxar on the big screen if we get more movies.
>>341843784
>>341843508
Warlocks are literally exposed to fel magic 100% since they fucking use fel magic
Teh fountain was pure energies+demonic blood
The first time they drank was 100% pure demon blood
>>341850803
>tfw they will just copypaste his in game model with no updates like they did for wod
>>341842676
>It had nothing to do with Blackhand failing, which he didn't, and everything to do with his own ambition.
Doesnt the game says he also wanted to kill guldan but he asked for mercy and offered death knights in return?
you even go to hunt Gul dan to the isle of sargeras to chase Guldan instaed of helping with the invasion of Lordaeron w
>>341842903
>Outland orcs are all red in the current timeline.
Because they ALL drank the blood except for the frostwolf clan which is no more
>>341848997
>Books
>mattering
>Not the games
>Movie is based on games not books
>>341842903
Outland orcs are red because they drank the blood of Magtheridon after the world exploded iirc
>>341834373
>CANT MAKE THIS SHIT UP
>>341849924
Lothar is the very icon of a human warrior, and he was like 60-70 when he fought the orcs.
>>341828574
Chris "corruption makes me rock hard" Metzen already fucked everything up, so why would that matter?
>>341828574
>no Cho'gal, Nerzhul, or Sargeras (everything bad is just "fel," including Mediev's sudden curruption)
>No Shadow Council
>Stormwind isn't sacked
>Garona isn't mind-controlled, doesn't assassinate the kingHe tells her to kill him right before he was going to fall in battle; said battle wasn't in the throne room.
>Khadgar and Garona don't study as Mediev's students
>The usual variety of WoW/WC3 retcons (good orcs versus corrupted, Frostwolves are added and uncorrupted, the First War barely lasts a few weeks instead of years)
>Quite literally the only clans mentioned are Frostwolves, Laughing Skulls, and Blackrock - and the latter two were only mentioned by name, never shown
>Garona/Anduin Lothar romance
>Anduin Lothar is part of the team that kills Mediev (I think that's a retcon? Or is it WC2/3 that changes it to just a captain?)
>Ragnar Lothbrok has taken the place of Anduin Lothar.
And dozens more that I can't think of because it's been ages since I went over Warcraft 1 or played WC2. They also really dropped the ball on potential sequels by completely removing the demon/Sargeras stuff from it (sure, they mentioned "demon" somewhere but nowhere in context to how the demons are actually involved). There is no overarching enemy for people to care about now, hoping to see beaten in subsequent films. It's just all "Gul'dan and his evil, evil Fel."
That's not to say it's all bad though. Turning Anduin into Ragnar is its greatest saving grace, and the CG orcs look great - much better than the live action cast. I'd say it's worth the watch, but it's nothing to write home about.
>>341828251
I liked the orcs a lot, everything with Humans was shit, I giggled at their costumed. Looked like plastic child toy's (because they were)
Somewhat better than I expected, I was pretty high when watching it though, inb4 LMAO weed.
Lots of retcons, more or less the same story though.
>>341840575
the current draenei are only canon since TBC
>>341846017
>that worgen swoocing on in for that blood elf booty
>>341852856
No, in TBC they changed their model to make them fit as a playable race, that doesn't mean they didn't exist before.
>>341852425
I think the Karazhan mission in WC was done by a troop of regular soldiers. Lothar had to be rescued from ogres in Deadmines.
It felt like Travis never quite got out of the Ragnar role, but he certainly wasn't bad. But in the age he is, he must have had Callan when he was 10 or something.
>>341843846
Garrosh as warchief was entirely the product of Kosak
From him becoming warchief, to him dying as a raid boss, all Kosak
Metzen had made mistakes, big ones, but do not blame him for Kosak's mistakes, Kosak shouldn't be able to dodge the blame
>>341828251
It was a shit movie, and that RT score is pretty spot on.
However, I still enjoyed it for the Orcs. Thought it was cool to see them act and see their internal conflicts. The humans were pretty boring, everything about Medivh was shit too.
Also
>that last scene at the portal
>that duel
Hahahaha
>>341853206
I'd say Callen was played by an actor who was too old, rather than Anduin being played by an actor too young
Callen should have been 15/16, but looked 24/25
>>341828251
WoW player here. Was Blackhand supposed to Rend?
>>341843730
>If you didn't get it, he was the "player" of the movie.
noticed that when he showed up pretty much
then after the movie was done my cousin told me "he was kargath"i was hearing carlat the whole movie wondering who the fuck is this dude
>>341853862
Blackhand was Rend's father
>>341853862
>WoW player
>doesn't recognize the only good boss of the last expansion
My best friend watched it and told me it was really entertaining.
From what I get from the thread it alters several events but it kinda is a decent action movie?
>>341854317
modern day people who play WoW can't be classified as WoW players any more, you need to have a mental capacity for that
>>341828251
i didnt expect much after hearing so much bad
but it was a great movie i had just a good time with it, there was a lot of action, some mage stuff, demon shit, cool effects, i just had a good time
>>341854524
Regardless of the game being shit/oversimplified, if you don't play it right now you are an ex-WoW player, it's just a matter of terminology :^)
Good and ending might be better if they let stormwind destroy.
>>341854723
Actually, right now it's wow" not wow. If we use the accurate terms you're a "wow"-player now.
People who dropped it earlier are ex-wow players though, that's still technically right
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uD_zlHDt8P8
>>341854791
Where you from, m8? Your english is awful, but good on you for trying.
>>341854791
movie would have made more sense that way
but then i guess for the next one we will see storming stormwind at the beginning
>>341855181
>next one
have they confirmed many movies of this? will there be like a trilogy, one for each warcraft game?
>>341855441
dunno, someone here didn't saw it was a trilogy? but then /v/ for news
we have expansions in wow with time-travel or whatever
they'll milk it till the only worth they get is 1€ profit
>>341855441
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