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TRAVELING TO: HANAMURA PREPARE TO ATTACK
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TRAVELING TO: HANAMURA

PREPARE TO ATTACK
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>>341807109
REYU WAGA TEKUSHIDO
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Why do people defend the lack of a server browser?
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>>341807109

>maybe it's time i drop out and check that box instead
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>>341807194
Ryuuga waka teki no kurau?
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>>341807109
Aint even bad. Attacking Hanamura and Anubis are easy.
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>2 instalock D.Va, 2 hanzo, 1 roadhog
What do you do?
>>341807224
I'm too foreigner to be able to explain it. Being able to prioritize maps (like select which ones you like the most, which ones you hate the most, etc) would make more sense.
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>>341807109
>Now entering: Hollywood
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>>341807224
>Travelling to Numbani
LA LO LI
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>>341807224
>no server browser
>find games in under a minute consistently
>games are always what you want, just the base game and nothing more

>have server browser
>90% of servers are out of your area
>50% of the 10% of playable servers have dumb shit rules that also make them unplayable
>the 50% of the 10% of servers that aren't unplayable aren't totally populated, lots of half filled servers or full ones

why do people want server browsers? is it because they are faggots who love to play on modded servers or play with power hungry admins and shit?
fuck private servers, never had a good experience on any of them.
I just want to play the fucking game, not hear quake sound affects, not have dumb shit votes/messages pop up every 5 seconds, not have to deal with females who've gained mod powers because they have tits and the admin is a thirsty beta, and not have to deal with asinine third party rules.
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>>341807109
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>arriving at ilios
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>>341807335
龍が我が敵を食らう?
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>>341807639
love the music on that map
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I hate all the pay load maps and love all the other laps.

Payload is just such a fucking boring game type, no matter whether you're attacking or defending. And they make you play it from both ducking sides. Plus, it has some of the worst maps in existence like that shitty Mexican map.
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>Instapick Genji
>Cap A, immediately rush to B
>RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE!!
>*Teleport behind that kid and clear the area*
>Team mates arrive right after my slaughter and just stays there to cap
>VICTORY!
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>>341809001
>9001
>thing that didn't happen
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>>341807716
Are you finding the custom games you want? Oh wait, it's literally impossible to join a custom game unless your friends are already its lobby.

>just the base game and nothing more
>always what you want
No, you're just a standard casual who mains cover characters and always does the standard thing that grown ups tell you to because you can't decide for yourself.
Just like in every single FPS with custom games, there is potential with this one too.

Protip: they already confirmed server browsers WILL come in the future.

>waaaaaaaaaaah sometimes I join a server and it has things I don't like!
Quit it and blacklist it. Problem solved. Stop being a bitch.
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>>341807716
>>games are always what you want,
Oh go screw yourself you fucking blizzdrone, if I don't want to play Control, I'm not gonna play Control
Stop defending laziness
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>>341807109
>traveling to route 66
>prepare to defend
>character selection screen
>IT AIN'T GONNA DISPENCE ITSELF
>attack commencing in 30 seconds
>attackers incoming
>mi wo sutetemo myouri wa sutezu
>see green light, hear HUAAGH
>HOL' UP NAH
>click... headshot, click empty the rest of my revolver
>*huuuaggh in japanese*
>EEEEASY
>Lshift
>SOMEONE CALL THE UNDERTAKER?

I love blizzard balancing. It's glorious.
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>>341807785
MEEEDDAAABOOOOOTTTTS
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>play any map
>both teams hoard ults
>one clash where everyone ult
>the team who combos it better win

this game is only fun against new/bad players for this reason
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>>341809457
>>341809643
Except he is right.
The trade, Saxtone Hale, and surf servers in TF2 were always obnoxious as fuck because they flooded the catalog when 75% I wanted to play vanilla TF2.

Modern gamers can't handle custom servers
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ARRIVING AT: TEMPLE OF ANBUIS

PREPARE TO ATTACK AND NEVER CAP POINT B

FUCK THIS MAP. POINT B IS SO UNFAIR
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>>341811165
>What is junkrat.
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>>341807109
Fuck you OP, for a second I thought this was a thread about Shadow Warrior 2.

Instead I get another Overshit thread to add onto the 10+ piles of existing ones.
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Attacking > defending at high MMR

It's a good way to find people to avoid is playing attack. If your team cant get last objective, chances are they will fail at defending. Losing both def and attack is instant avoid. Losing KOTH, instant avoid.

Probably why my winrate has gone up to 65% because the shitters i avoided arent in my games anymore.

Also avoiding char "mains", where they have 60 hours as hanzo, widow, mcree etc. With no other chars played more then a few mins. Get out of my games non switchers
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>>341807109
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>>341811241
Useless on Point B against a competent defense.
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ITT: Scrubbies complain about maps even though they're perfect and well balanced.

So easy for noobs to blame the game instead of taking the blame and getting good.
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>>341807109

People really hate Hanamura Attack?

I hate Egypt Attack way more.
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>>341811165
>when nobody switches and just keep chain dying

I don't often be a shitty person online, but I ream people out in this game.
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>>341808189
You're wrong. Payload are the only good maps. Assaults aren't bad either but King of the Hill maps have got to go.
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>>341811681

How the hell do you not like the KOTH maps?

They're by far the best
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>>341811314
No it isn't.

>get junk and road
>go the entrance to the left
>go through the sideway
>abuse the pillar to get in your granades
>let a road tank damage for you and maybe hook some squishies

>in addition; let a pharah do her work on the right
>let a tracer blink through the tunnel below to distract enemies
>put a widow up top in the middle
>the last twat can do whatever he wants
>fucking win

But I will agree that this game is horrible in soloq
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>Attacking on Hanamura
>Team cannot get past the terribly designed chokepoint once
>Defending Hanamura
>1 minute game
fuck this map
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They should remove OVERTIME
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>>341811758

Non KOTH maps: every character can be used, baring team comp, there's something for everyone

KOTH maps: A sizable chunk of the characters cannot be used without being against a massively shitty team
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>>341811814

Overtime can be where things really get interesting though, I had one Lijiang tower where we had the cap and were in overtime for around 5 mins.

>>341811758

I like koth if my team isn't shit, if my team is shit than koth is a pain in the ass, more so than other game modes, at least in other game modes me and my friend have a little chance of carrying.
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>>341811364
I'd say the maps are balanced pretty well but the problem is most people stick to defense heroes exclusively on anything but skirmish which leads to staler gameplay. The emphasis on choke points to set up lines of defense don't help this in push maps and they feel slightly less like organic formations and more like where the sentry/bastion/sniper/Reinhardt is supposed to stand.
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>>341807639
>Heroic Music plays in the distance

Love it.
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>>341811814

If they remove overtime then they may as well just call matches early.

Why even bother trying when there's 15 seconds left on the clock if you literally can't push that payload far enough? May as well just give up.

Overtime makes the game more intense. You have to defend/attack to the last breath. It's not over until it's over. I had a match on payload defense where overtime lasted for 3 minutes of just constant rushing from D.vas and Junkrats and it was one of the most intense moments I've had in the whole game.
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>>341812196
i played a koth once where the other team was 2 tracers 2 lucios 2 winstons, and they extended overtime for about 5 minutes because they'd keep rushing back to the point like a merry go round. it was dumb as fuck.
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>>341811038
Then use filters dimwit. Tags exist for a reason, not their fault you're too retarded to use them.
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>>341812369

Yeah that's what it was for us, they had a tracer, winston, lucio, maybe a mei, and we were just fighting constantly for 5 mins, I found it pretty fun, I was just constantly healing and rezzing as Mercy and them not being able to kill me. It can be a hassle, but it creates some of the most intense moments in the game.
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>>341811814
>tfw when your in OVERTIME for more than 7 Minutes on KOTH with both teams on 99%

Shit gets intense.
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>>341811814
OVERTIME is one of the best parts about this game nigga.
See >>341812357
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>>341809643
>games are always what you want,
No, games are always what the majority wants. It was practically impossible to find a populated server in Counterstrike that played on de_cbbl.

Every server would constantly be on assault, italy, or one of the dusts, but my favorite map was the least played so I very, very rarely ever got to play it.
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>>341812568
>filter to only show "vanilla"
>STILL find a ton of trading servers because "vanilla" just meant "no mods and you don't need mods to trade
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>>341812953

Reminds me of S4 League. Everyone just wanted to play Station-2 all day erry day, and I never got to play Highway or Neden-3 without starting my own room, and even then it'd never fill up because everyone hated them for some reason.
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>>341813145
>>341812953

>tfw hardly anyone ever plays cp_steel in TF2
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>>341813261

Probably because it's the most frustrating map to play in the game. People in these games are not good at multi-tasking, asking an uncoordinated pub team to defend both points A, B and E at the same time is impossible. You either have one scout running through ending the game instantly, or you have the entire team preventing that scout from capping while the other points fall one by one.
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>>341807473
Hanamura's difficulty is meme.
Anubis's is not. Fuck that fucking map.
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>>341812953
>Battiefield 1942, Invasion of the Philippines map
Holy fuck it was so good, I could never understand the hate. I only got to play a populated match on it once or twice
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>>341813389

E is piss easy to defend if it's not your last point, never had an issue defending it before D is capped. A and B also won't be up at the same time, only E is the other point that will be open. It's incredibly easy to kill a scout trying to cap E, there's a window you can shoot through at A point. I feel it's one of the more balanced maps in TF2, there's a lot of different options to attack or defend from and the matches themselves usually don't feel too long.
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>>341813680

I'll also add I don't think I've ever had a game where scout rushing E actually worked.
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>be on attack
>3 hanzo and a widow lock in instantly
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>>341811796
>have a single competent sniper watching mid
>have two torbs each with a turret set up on left and right aide entrances
>tank in the middle absorbing fire or disrupting pushes
>healer and offense stay together and go where ever there is a strong push
It is literally impossible to get through that area with a semi conpetent team guarding it. The only way I have won on that map is to let my team cap A and go for B as a tank and distract them so they can't set up defenses before my team arrives.
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>>341813768

You haven't dealt with the terrible teams I've been on then. Usually if a scout rushed E, we were 100% guaranteed to lose unless I took care of it myself. If I went down for any reason without killing the scout, the match was over.
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>>341807109
I don't get it
>fight to first choke point is easy
>sometimes there isn't even a fight up to it, they're just waiting behind it
>get to choke point, hide behind reinhardt's shield and eliminate the bastion or turret or whatever and capture the point
>go through one of the side entrances while reinhardt and like one other guy sit at the front and keep them distracted
>kill enough of them while they're distracted to stand on the last control point
>shoot them as they come out of their spawn, it's literally just a shooting gallery

>>>>>>>>>>people say this map is impossible to win on attack
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>>341814056

I've dealt with plenty of shitty teams, it's why I roll vaccinator medic with my soldier friend, but E is incredibly easy to stop especially on point A, all you have to do is fire rockets through the window and that usually will do the trick.
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I actually love hanamura now that I'm used to it. The first cap is meh but the second point is the best point in the game, hands down. Before it felt insurmountable on attack but now I know the layout and it's quite a strategic battle.
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>>341811513
Make sure never to play league of legends if you ream people out in overwatch. Riot Lyte has conditioned most of the player base to be wet blanket pussies, and any bantz or criticism will be labeled "toxic", resulting in you getting a chat restriction or banned. Even saying "gg" or "ggez" could mark you down. Be glad that Blizzard focuses more on punishing leavers and cheaters.
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>>341811364
>claims shit like Anubis B is balanced
>furfag
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>>341814247
Lyte is dead Anon-kun. And so is Feminist Parrot.
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>bastion apologists
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>>341814384
Anubis B is easy.

>train them to shoot down the isle for a minute or so
>go left with the rest of team
>fire all of your ults at the same time onto the point
>???
>profit
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>>341814473
The shitty automated banning system is still in place, and the community is still full of sensitive babies who report over the most banal shit.
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>>341807716
>>games are always what you want
what. that's literally the opposite of having no server browser. You have no say on what maps you're playing or the game mode you are playing.
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>>341807109
I personally don't know why people bitch about Hanamura. You just need to be aggressive as all fuck.

Take a Rein+D.Va or Winston, and rush A. Cap and immediately rush down B before they can set their defences. Keep the pressure up, no Hanzo/Widow bullshit on Attack. Junkrat and Zarya both work exceptionally well for attacking B once they have ults up, and can support your two rushing tanks.
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>>341807109

I'd rather attack than play defense on any map.
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>>341814515
The hard part is getting a team that isn't braindead and is willing to save their ults instead of firing them off the second they get them
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>>341814515
>hide behind the pillars
>put toblerone turrets/bastion at the two narrow side entrances
>any semi-decent Widow can rack up ez kills shooting at the long hallway in front
Anubis B is literally a free win for defense if they aren't brain-dead retards
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>>341813942
Then your junk and pharah are incompetent.
A few granades and rockets are enough to destroy lvl 2 turrets.
If you have to switch then make the pharah go junk as well, you can easily spam the granades over the wall on the right to destroy the turrets.

As for the sniper, he's only a distraction for the tank so he doesn't shield or protect other heroes.
The tracer is excellent to disrupt the healer and take him out, genji is good for this as well.

Look man, I know you think this is impossible but once you've done it one time, you'll see how easy it is.
Had the same problem with not only anubis but hanamura as well, got a good comp and won games.
You really just have to practice this and you NEED a premade for this, everything else will result in failure.
If I can do it, you can do it too.
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>>341811165
Statistically, whenever point A gets captured then B is gotten 66% of the time. The overall winrate for D/O is 55/45.
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>Travelling to route 66
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>>341814986
>2 hanzo and a bastion on attack
>they never change and die constantly
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>>341814889
>Pharah tries to do fucking anything
>has to get in line of sight of Toblerone/Bastion and gets shot down in a second because her splash damage is complete shit
>attack NEEDs a premade in order to have a chance at winning (your own words) but defense can easily be won by a group of pubs jacking off
>implying this is even close to good game balance
I bet you're gonna post another Yifftopia reaction image too.
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>Traveling to Lijiang Tower
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>>341814850
>not ulting the moment its up as Hanzo/McREEEE/Mercy
>not abusing their retarded ult charge rates
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The only time I see people complain about maps is when they do nothing but barrel down the middle and never use the side flank route.

I literally just walk up Hanamura B right side as reinhardt, appear right behind the entire enemy line, then charge down the side, crush one of them, hammer at least 1 more to death before they all notice me and chase me down. By the time they kill me my team can now charge the point.
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>>341811814
it might as well not be in the game with how often people don't know what contesting a point is
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>>341811165
veto this shit you faggots. veto veto veto veto fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck
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>>341815397
to be fair, Hanamura A only has a single flank route, and that's only open to squishies. Torb/Symmetra can easily lock that single spot down, and allow the rest of the team to focus on the only other entrance.

It takes a really strong brute force push to get into A on Hanamura.
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>>341811253
I don't understand people who don't switch.

Look, if you're 10% away from your Ult and you just got killed, hell yeah: Get back in there and see if you can change the pace of the fight with it.

Ult's at less than 20% and you just died? Take a look at your team comp and adjust, homie.
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>>341815226
>against toblerone as pharah
agony
the 180 degree aimbot on it is suffering, though to be fair I struggle to think of good ways to nerf him that wouldn't cripple him entirely
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>>341807716
>>games are always what you want
lol what the fuck

I had no idea I wanted to play 24/7 capture the point and payload
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>>341807690
What?
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>>341812053
Any character can be useful in KOTH.

Any character.

If you think otherwise, you're just shit at KOTH.
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>>341814384
Anubis B is fucking asinine on both sides of the fight

On attack, your team never flanks leaving you the only one who actively doesn't throw themselves into the middle, while on defense it's just sit in the middle and the right tunnel with the health pack, getting kills.

>not liking zootopia
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>>341815226
I've never said that the game is completely balanced, and balancing the defenders to have the exact same chances as the attackers is stupid.
Attackers always have the upper hand, because they can adapt, while defenders (for the most part) have to withstand what gets thrown at them.
On anubis and hanamura specifically, you can even snowball ultis if you catch people running back to point A after dying, when you're already taking the first point.

If your pharah does get caught by a bastion let alone a torbjörn turret, which needs some time to shoot, then she's doing it wrong.
You can corner peak extremely fast in this game, which is your biggest ally when taking out turrets.
Can't corner peak? Then go genji and deflect that shit.

Don't blame the fucking game for mistakes you make. Learn, adapt and communicate and then the game gets easier and easier.

If you think that the game is broken just because you don't win everytime and don't learn from every loss, then you'll gonna have a horrible time playing ranked.
People have done it, I have done it, so you have no excuse not to do it as well.
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>>341811814
Should be changed to tf2 style, I hate the 5 minute long body throwing contest on koth maps.
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>defending
>the match is a easy win because your team has completely stopped the attacking team from even coming close to the first point
>as soon as time runs out the enemy team gets on the point and starts overtime
>your team suddenly loses their minds and then loses the point
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>>341816104
next time you play numbani listen carefully during loading time
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>>341816153
yeah but some heroes are just straight up more broken than others

Currently the best KOTH heroes are
Lucio
Pharah
Roadhog
Tracer
Winston
Reaper

Most of these are just for pushing people into the pits near the control point, but theyre still way more powerful than every other hero at area control and lockdown.
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>>341807109
>The enemy team have a Reinhardt, Mercy, Bastion, Torb, and two other assortments of Offense characters
>The Widowmaker on our team does nothing to take out the Bastion or even Torb's turrets even when they are becoming the core reason we can't infiltrate fully
>Widowmaker just focuses on trying to get kills on the two other offense characters to prove their LE SICK NASTY SNOIPER SKILLZ
>The game ends with Widowmaker still standing at the castle's gate still taking potshots at god knows what
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>>341811814
I don't think it should be removed but it should be revamped in some way overtime matches aren't people mindlessly throwing themselves onto the point only to be brutalized by the entire enemy team, just to keep the overtime clock going.
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>>341816502
I'm not able to afford the game, so
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>>341807109
Fucking damn, hanamura is the most generic name possible.
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>>341816279
>balancing the defenders to have the exact same chances as the attackers is stupid
So defense should be able to win 75% of the time with no effort on maps like Anubis B then?
>If your phara does get caught by a bastion let alone a torbjorn turret, which needs some time to shoot, then shes doing it wrong
Except Toblerone turrets fire near-instantly with little warning and have fuckhuge range, their 40-meters of supposed range means nothing when most maps consist of corners and turns. And it's easy as fuck to simply make another turret and get it to level 2, whereas Pharah will likely take significant damage taking out a turret. Also Genji's deflect is not enough to take out turrets and he will take heavy damage destroying one, and any smart Bastion will stop shooting once they hear HAJIME *shing* and then once its over go back to melting his weeb ass in 0.3 seconds.

There is no reason for maps like Anubis B to be so reliant on extremely narrow chokepoints, even the flank routes are ridiculously easy to defend with just Torbjorn. And again, a map that "NEEDS" a premade 6 to have a chance at winning on attack but not nearly that much effort on defense is not a balanced map.

>>341816248
>liking furfagtopia
I miss when furries were actively driven off of this site instead of accepted and celebrated.
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NOW TRAVELING TO: DORADO
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>>341817092
>>liking furfagtopia
>I miss when furries were actively driven off of this site instead of accepted and celebrated.
You're trying too hard to fit in
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>>341814667

>no Hanzo/Widow bullshit on Attack

There's 95% of the problem trying to play with pubs.

You basically always have a sniper retard on Attack (sometimes 2!) who will never ever change regardless of anything that happens and they are little better than an empty spot.
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>>341817129
i actually kinda like the last stretch of this map desu
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>>341807690
>Travelling to Numbani
YAYOI
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>Attacking/defending on volskaya industries
>bastion
>main objective is B
>Hop on little floating/moving platform
>rain absolute hellfire on enemy team blow
>cause MASSIVE asspain
>entire enemy team focuses their strength trying to kill me
>lose the objective because of me
>fuck their character order as they all switch to genji to try to reflect my fire
>keep on healing and watching as my team takes advantage of the situation
>literally fucked the whole game up

Oh man I'm sure I must have ruined someones day.
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>>341817235
>unironically being a furry
>pls gib me safe space
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>>341817420
I like the theme and the pretty lights
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>>341817092
You'll never learn, so let's stop this.
Just know that blizzard won't """""fix""""" their maps and gamemodes and that you already paid for the game and can't get a refund

But hey, complaining about it surely will help you win those games!

Peace.
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>>341817520
>>unironically being a furry
>>pls gib me safe space
>pic related
Besides anon, you're pretty shit if you think Anubis B is that ubnalanced
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>>341811494
>I hate Egypt Attack way more.
Attack on Temple of Anubis' first point is the worst
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So I just read they dont plan to let you disable viewmodels, so you can disable the UI for visual clarity but those bulky ass viewmodels are really too important to let you go without. Why is the Overwatch team such a joke.
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>>341817679
This, anubis A is WAY worse than anubis B

>they have a symmetra, bastion, reinhardt, widow and mercy
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>>341813402
You have it the wrong way. At least on Anubis there's going to be 2 or more defenders in the site you can just graviton surge.
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>>341817518
Volskaya point B is such shit, goddamn.
Point A's ok, though.
>>341817596
It's a very nice looking map.
>>341817679
Oh god, yeah, turret/Symmetra hell
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>>341817639
>it's okay that maps are horribly imbalanced, just deal with it kiddo
I guarantee you that once server browsers are implemented Anubis and Hanamura will be dead as fuck because nobody wants to play Attack on maps so stacked toward the defense

>>341817665
>unironically being a furry
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>>341817836
>>341817679
>>341811494
>Snipes you from the building all the way in the back from fucking point A
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>>341817894
>>unironically being a furry
great argument
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>>341811494
>cap A
>type RUSH B in team chat
>win everytime
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>>341817894
what the fuck am i looking at
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>>341818236
His fetish
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>>341817665
watching a movie doesn't make someone a furry, anon
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best map
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>>341818282
I never said it does
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>>341811165
>2 Reins, a Winston, a Zeny, a Pharah and a useless Hanzo

2 rushes and that shit was ours, it was glorious
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>play D.Va
>flank single target perfectly, start attacking them with their backs turned
>they turn around and start bunny hopping like a faggot, doing retarded amounts of damage because suddenly when I attack I turn into a giant stationary fucking headbox
>even if I get the kill I have no HP to benefit anyone until I heal

Please fucking fix this. I don't even think Blizzard knew what role they wanted D. Va to fill because even at her best she is only slightly better than someone's worst
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>>341818236
Furfaggotry
Or I guess some furfag will sperg out and say that it's something different as if one form of degeneracy is better than the other
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>>341818471
>not using your shield
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>>341811165
This map is way too easy to win as attackers.
Once you get A you can get B in a single rush
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>>341818540
>attacking cancels your shield
You're just an infinitely worse Reinhardt
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>>341818726
>use shield then start attacking before they start to reload so they can still hit you
You're just a shitter who can't play d.va
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>>341815226
All they have to do is either lower rate of fire on the turret or lower the rate of fire and have bullet drop off. It deals a base of 14 per bullet so drop off at a distance should be half of that.
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How'd I do?
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>>341807690
BAHABA
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>>341818803
>go up to Bastion
>die the second your shield drops
>can barely out-dps toblerone turret at melee range
DVa is so gimped by dumb restrictions it's not even funny, which is sad because she's fun as fuck.
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>>341818471
>they turn around and start bunny hopping like a faggot
Meaning you were too shit to land the shots.
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>>341818976
>dying to bastion
low mmr spotted
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>>341814509

>counterpick Genji
>press E

What's the big hold up brah
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>>341819058
not exactly hard to kill the giant critbox known as Dva with Bastion m80 especially when his turret form can't be displaced.

>>341819069
>bait out deflect
>melt his cyborg ass
not hard
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>>341816297
How does TF2 handle it?
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>>341807224

Not everyone wants to play the same map over and over. Not everyone likes shitty custom servers with shitty admins.

Match making also has built in MMR and matches you against similar party sizes so you don't fight against stacks.

There is literally no reason for a server browser unless you like playing the same map over and over as opposed to map variety and having to play a map you dislike occasionally.
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>Now entering Watchpoint Gibraltr
>OH BOY DEFENSE
>Rev up the Toblerone
>Entire team likes the cut of my jib and go Toblerone as well
>Other team doesn't even make it past the slope, and those jive turkeys had two Tryhardts
>Get potg which is just me standing around and spamming the hello emote in the spawn room
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>>341815856
Nigga you'll kill that shitty turret much faster than it'll kill you. 3 rockets is kill even if toblerone is repairing it.

>but what if torb is shooting after me too?

The average torb player doesn't know he has a range weapon. Only turret and hammers

>but turrets kills me so fast and has aimbot!

Turret needs 4 whole seconds of constant fire to kill you with it's garbage 56 dps. You can literally stand still and duel it as almost any character in the game sorry zen, if you can't throw 3 rockets on that sorry ass turret in that time then it's time to uninstall.

If you can't get hits in with pharah then go junkrat, motherfucker can lob nades all over the B spot while staying out of sight.
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>>341811814
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>>341819069
>Attack
>That one Mei that goes up to your door and freezes it
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>>341819398

God bless the people who do this, gets a laugh out of me every time.
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>>341819363
>stand still and duel the turret
>kill it with 50 health left
>torb kills you with his weapon
ggez
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You know what's great about playing on console? Nobody looks up?
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>>341817092
>complains about bastion/torb turret

Confirmed shitter. Literally dead on sight by 40% of the character roster.
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>>341811165
Who is Mei?
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>>341811814
I wish overtime drained faster if you have more people on the point/objective and they don't have anyone. That and/or overtime doesn't instantly reset when 1 guy from the other team touches it, but instead slowly regens like it would slowly decrease if nobody was there.

it's really frustrating when you win a team fight but are massively hurt and scattered, and then the other team has 1 class that is really good at stalling overtime by himself until the rest of the team comes in and dumps on us.
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>>341817841
On Anubis there is literally one one way in

Just because there is a pillar dividing the one entrance doesn't mean it isn't still only one entrance
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>Temple of Anubis
>pick autism robot girl
>win
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>>341819648
or you know, move, you don't have to stand still m8, just saying that turret is not particularly strong. You're also allowed 5 other players on your team, one hopefully healing. Mercy can almost outheal the turret 50hp/s vs 56dps and the turrets falls to 3 rockets regardless what torb does, except ulti ofc.
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>>341820149
If you are moving in an attempt to dodge turret fire you are incredibly shit at this game
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>>341820149
>implying moving will help against turret with perfect tracking
>focus two or three people to kill one turret
>MOLTEN COOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRREEE
>triple kill
gg
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>>341819924
>hanzo uses ult
>ALWAYS play of the game
yea i just got the game but nearly every POTG is Hanzo ulting 2-3 people
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>>341820149
>just dodge the turret shots!
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Have you been accused of hacking yet, /v/?
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>>341820349

You're still likely in low MMR land where Bastion is uncounterable and everyone shoots Genjis/Zayras while they're deflect/shielding.
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>>341807335
Ryuu ga waka teki wo kurau?
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>>341820613
fuck bastion and his shitty little bird
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>>341820496
No, but it's bound to happen. I'll get a lucky kill or two
I can't wait for the accusation
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>>341820349
>Defending Hanamura
>go Reaper
>team bitches even though we already have 2 tanks and 2 supports and a Hanzo
>kill 4 attackers by hiding behind the gate and fucking them all from behind
>gold eliminations, objective kills, objective time
>play of the game goes to our Hanzo ulting 1 D.Va in the gate window and then headshotting the enemy Lucio
>team bitches at me saying "Reaper was fucking useless" and "Reaper did nothing"

People who bitch at others for using Reaper even when it does well are even worse than people who play Reaper to be edgelords
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>>341820496
yes

played junkrat and got called a hacker for having too many riptires
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>>341807690
So what is the chanting supposedly inspired from? To me it sounds something like what the Rwandans would sing.
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>>341819058

Way to miss the point just so you can argue retard. The point is that D. Va is only good at one thing, and even then she is gimped to shit. Yes, she can get get a kill, but when anyone else makes a play as hard as a good D. Va play, they sweep.
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>Team based game
>Having one shit teammate can cost you the entire game
>No votekick function
Why is this allowed? I had one game where a faggot playing Tracer was literally just exploring the map instead of helping us, and I couldn't do a goddamn thing about it.
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>Enemy team really wants to destroy my turret
>Scream Molten core and shoot them in their face alongside my turret
>Get an achievement

Sometimes I like this game
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>>341820343
>>341820478

>implying moving will help against turret with perfect tracking

Idk if you read the post i replied to but it helps against toblerone and other people shooting at you. Going back and forth from cover will minimize dmg you take as well, also if it's horribly placed then you get the turret turn speed as well

>focus two or three people to kill one turret

No, plenty of characters can easily solo it, even while toblerone is trying to repair it. Pharah is probably the easiest to do it with.

But what do i know? You clearly describe this torb turret to be this engine of destruction with no counters (that doesn't see play in competitive for some reason). To me it sounds like a case of git gud.
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>>341821158
>aimbot turret
>turn speed
get a load of this guy
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>>341807224

Server browsers are only necessary when matchmaking isn't adequate to find a reliable low ping server. In this case, the game is so popular the ease of finding a good game makes it not really important whether there is or isn't a dedicated server browser
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>those sweet trumpets on Dorado

Dorado and Ilios have the best intro music
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>>341811165

>be reaper
>teleport to top of wall from where they can't see me
>press Q and jump down to site
>team kill

true story
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>>341821254
It does have a limited turn speed though. Not so slow that you can freely strafe around it without getting shot if you're close enough like in TF2, but slow enough that you can kill it before it manages to turn that far if you sneak up behind it / flank it
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>>341821254
>the turret start shooting before looking at you

Have you played the game m8? If you come behind the turret it won't start firing at you before it has turned around. Unless you don't posses basic motor functions you can pot shot the turret and not take a single hit.

However you seem casual enough to even play this on console which may be why you think torb and bastion is op
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>enemy Bastion is in a tough spot to get to, being shielded by Reinhardt
>Reinhardt's charge and Roadhog's hook can pull Bastion out of turret mode
>but I can't reach him as Reinhardt and Roadhog's hook doesn't go through the shield
>D.Va can push people around with her rockets, I bet smashing into Bastion would push him out of turret mode too!
>Switch to D.Va
>fly into Bastion with my shield up
>push him off his ledge
>he's still in turret mode
>shield runs out
>health drops from 500 to 0 in one second
>I damaged him for like 100 maybe even at point blank range
fuck, ok I'll try something else
>Switch to Tracer
>manage to sneak up behind Bastion
>empty both guns into the big blue glowy thing on Bastion's back at point blank range
>turret turns around and instakills me

what the fuck is this shit

>go McCree
>flashbang+fan him
>he's finally fucking dead
>roll
>fan Reinhardt
>he's also dead
>Mercy is now shooting me with her pistol
>Left click her in the head a few times
>she's also dead
>JUSTICE R-
>left click
>Justice is gone
>Get shot in the head by enemy Widowmaker
>too late though, our team has the point and we win

Blizz real good at balance
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>>341820496
>play soldier
>use ult
>"nice aimbot dude lol obvious lol "
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>>341821646
>>341821723
Yeah thanks anon great advice I'l be sure to remember that when trying to destroy turrets in the middle of the field instead of in a corner/behind a wall
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>>341821743
>empty both guns into the big blue glowy thing on Bastion's back at point blank range

if you get all 40 hits as crits on point blank range you'll kill anyone in this game (except d.va). git gud
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>>341821038
I really hope Blizzard comes to their senses and nerfs torb. He's fucking ridiculously op
>His turret has more health than most characters
>His turret turns on a fucking dime, instantly autoaiming to anyone who steps within range
>He can heal it while it's being damaged, at a rate faster than most characters can damage it
>Turret has perfect tracking no matter how fast you are
>Molten core heals both him and his turret, and makes his turret invincible
>Cool down on his turret starts once he places one down, not after it breaks, meaning if it breaks he can instantly set down a new one and start upgrading it
The worst is that there are plenty of spots where he can set down his turret, while hiding his body around a corner, healing the turret nonstop without being threatened by anyone except phara
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>>341811165
Point A is way easier to defend

Just go to the fucking main archway entrance and block that

It's literally the only way in
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>>341821861
The spread on Tracer's SMGs are ridiculous, even at point blank you won't hit the critbox every time, and a toblerone armor pack would easily stop it from being an instakill
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>>341821743
now you're playing a real mans hero
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>>341821872

Torb's turret has as much health as Bastion. His rate of healing it is the same as if Mercy was glued to Bastion healing him. He swings once a second for 50 healing a hit, she heals 50 in a second.

But Bastion has a much higher damage output then a turret does. The big problem with Torb's turrets isn't that they're too hard to kill, it's that it's too easy for him to get built right back up. Unless you push the instant his turret is down, he can have another level 2 turret up within about 6-7 seconds, and all your effort is wasted.
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I dislike all the payload maps when I play alone.
A lot of times I must push or contest the payload alone while my mates do their shitty flanking moves. I love those rounds where I get surrounded from all sides while on the payload, even when my team is alive and all over the place.
I skip the kill cams most often now to look what my mates are doing, a lot of players are just unbelievable. e.g. I see Tracers shooting at enemies from over 20m away, never once wondering why they deal no damage or going in to kill the supporter.
Just today we had a Zarya on Dorado defense and she used her self shield on cooldown, most often with no enemies in sight and would run straight into the enemy team and get hammered, literally, by Reinhardt. Then the enemy team was almost at the 2nd checkpoint, near the church, and she still walked around behind the first checkpoint area, somewhere right of the 2nd spawn room. She never once was near the payload exept when getting killed and left clicked at enemies from a distance. IT HAS A LIMITED RANGE YOU DUMB FUCK!! The best thing I saw while watching her was she using her ult on the red house left to where the payload starts, with no enemies around whatsoever.
Could it have been a bot rather than a player? I know there are stupid people, but this fucking stupid? holy shit
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>>341815854
the problem with this game is it discourages switching when it's a valuable strategy to do, you rarely get commendation cards if you keep switching and not racking up huge points.
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>>341821828
>Yeah thanks anon great advice I'l be sure to remember that when trying to destroy turrets in the middle of the field instead of in a corner/behind a wall
>turret in middle of field
>hen trying to destroy turrets in the middle of the field instead of in
> to destroy turrets in the middle of the field instead
>turrets in the middle of the field
>middle
>of
>the
>field

wew lad no counters! Yeah torb is totally OP. I expect 100% pick rate next tournament because his turret has zero counters and easily nets a 2 for 1 in all situations. There's absolutely no way any character can kill a turret in the middle of an open area.
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>>341821464

Something about the composition of King's Row I like. I've heard enough of Dorado's.
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>>341822058

Tracer's spread is way too high imo. I'd be perfectly comfortable if they make the bullet damage drop off very quickly past a certain distance but halved or even quartered the smg spread. The fact that you have to press your nose up against the chest of roadhog to hit maybe half your rounds is pretty ridiculous.
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>Now traveling to: HANAM-
>leave leave leave leave
>Next game queues
>Now traveling to: TEMPLE OF ANUBIS
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>>341822245
>any sane toblerone will know to stick the turret in a corner or at least in front of a wall
>just flank it!

wew lad i'll just spout some dumb hyperbole I've obviously won the argument based on my flawless gameplay knowledge
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>>341821828
>instead of in a corner/behind a wall
But that's exactly what >>341821646 was saying. You can avoid line of sight to destroy it without ever getting hit
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>>341822245
You seem to have failed to register the sarcasm of that anon's post
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>>341821872
>stand behind reinhardt shield
>turret and torb gets no ulti charge
>almost any hero in the game can out damage torbs shitty repair solo


>Cool down on his turret starts once he places one down, not after it breaks, meaning if it breaks he can instantly set down a new one and start upgrading it

do you guys just destroy his turret when he's repairing it and forget about the dwarf fuck? The turret gets instantly destroyed if you shoot it even once when he throws it out. And if you just throw a bullet at it for 1 dmg he can't upgrade it to level 2. You casuals and console shits are the worst i swear.
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>>341822469
anon you don't have to flank it. I've told you numerous times that you can just simply win against it even while torb is repairing it because it has a tragically low dps. Torb is a wasted character slot unless you're playing against shitters.
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>>341822528

Usually it's more like

>Poke out to destroy turret
>Take some shots while doing so
>Destroy turret
>Fall back for a moment to grab a medpack before pushing in
>Turret is back up as soon as you come back

Really if his cooldown only started after his turret was destroyed I think he'd be much more balanced. The problem is really apparent when there are two or more Torbs, you can't make any progress at all.
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>>341822348

Temple of Anubis is a Lucio's dream come true.

You DO play Lucio, don't you?
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>>341822706
>anon you don't have to flank it
>Have you played the game m8? If you come behind the turret it won't start firing at you before it has turned around. Unless you don't posses basic motor functions you can pot shot the turret and not take a single hit.

>It does have a limited turn speed though. Not so slow that you can freely strafe around it without getting shot if you're close enough like in TF2, but slow enough that you can kill it before it manages to turn that far if you sneak up behind it / flank it
Nice backpedaling anon
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>carried the entire payload singlehandedly on watchpoint:gabralter
>all silver medals
>finally manage to get my first mvp as roadhog
> 0 commendations
>mfw
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post yfw you get loaded in to Temple of Anubis on Attack
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>"Arriving at Watchpoint: Gibraltar."
>That comfy and dramatic synth comes on
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>>341822859
Yes i'm aware you're incapable of reading. I guess i can just pick some words from your garbo responses and do the same.

can't wait for 6 torb in competitive tho.
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>>341822906
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>>341822879

>Everyone always commends the healer, no matter how much healing they do
>Unless it's me healing 30% or 40%, then I get 0 commendations

Fuck commendations.
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>>341823148
>get BTFO
>start projecting harder than an imax theater
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>>341823262
>no argument
>no response of any value
>anime postr
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>>341822528
>Here's my imaginary scenario where I have a whole team up against one Torb
You have to consider what the rest of his team is doing moron. More often than not there's a bastion near the turret covering it, and if the enemy team really feels like being assholes they can have a riendhart covering the turret and bastion.
And then there's the issue of snipers, symmetra turrets/teleporters.
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I hate solo queuing KOTH maps. It's like some players actively avoid the objective or something.

>no one wants to group up
>people just press Q the moment it pops up without thinking
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>>341823362
>y-you're just incapable of reading lmao 6torb in competitive ur a shitter
>lmao your post has no argument looks like i win again
>complaining about anime on anime website
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>>341823148
Anon just stop posting, you're clearly in the wrong
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>>341822805
They'd have to rework how he destroys his own turret if that's the case
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>>341817129
*mariachi music intensifies*

I like to play Mei here and BUILD A BIG BEAUTIFUL WALL.

MEI-KE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN!
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>>341823665
>not A-MEI-RICA
you have to go back
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>>341823570
>posts more anime

Bro you could make MILLIONS by playing Torb in competitive right now, what are you doing?
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>>341811814
Overtime is literally the only reason this game is fun
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>>341811165

1winston
5mcree

We plowed through both points in under 5 minutes.
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Post least used.
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>>341822879
>Get MVP as Torbjorn
>0 commendations

Everytime. He is a shit character tho. Lucio, Zarya, and Mercy are commendation sluts.
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>>341823787
>this mad he lost the argument
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=28sF2-amfMI
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>>341811814
>Playing defense
>Hold a payload at the start for the entire match
>Enemy dogpiles it in overtime
>They push it all the way to the finish


Overtime only favors the attackers, it's fucking retarded.
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>>341822859
>>It does have a limited turn speed though. Not so slow that you can freely strafe around it without getting shot if you're close enough like in TF2, but slow enough that you can kill it before it manages to turn that far if you sneak up behind it / flank it
This was my post

>>341822706
This wasn't

You're talking to more than one person
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>>341820334
Maybe if you read the one i replied to it would make sense why i said move. You can just stand still and duel the turret and live as almost anyone. If you get shot at by others as well then moving would probably help dodging their fire not the turret.
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>>341824212
but i didn't lose anon. Anime isn't an argument :(
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>>341822469
>any sane toblerone will know to stick the turret in a corner or at least in front of a wall
And make it infinitely easier for a Junkrat or Pharah to kill it
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>>341811814

>OVERTIME
>The team that has been shit all game suddenly turns into a Korean esports team and overtakes us


They couldn't even aim straight a moment ago.

What the fuck
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>>341824450
Yeah anon, I'm gonna build my turrets right out in the open in plain sight, that'll show them!
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>>341821956
but its not. its one of 4 ways in and if you play as a character who can jump high or fly or run up walls there is an extra 2 more ways you can get in
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>>341824136
>hanzo
>genji
this makes sense
mccree and zarya on the other hand are top tier characters that should used regularly
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>>341824650
>having trouble with torb turret

/v/ still full of casuals i see.
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>>341824650
It doesn't matter if it's out in the open or inside a tiny corridor or anywhere in between. The closer it is to a wall, the easier it is for those two characters to kill it.
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>>341825002
>If I pretend the turret isn't OP then maybe it won't get nerfed!
As it stands tanks are some of the only characters able to safely solo a turret. You can peak around the corner as a sniper and take it out, but you'll lose the majority of your health doing so, and this is if ONLY the turret is shooting you and no one else.
>>341825010
Except they only have 200 health and will get their shit fucked trying to deal with the turret AND EVERYONE ELSE.

Why you people pretend like it's just you versus the turret is beyond me. You have an entire team protecting that thing by shooting at you, and someone healing the turret.
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>>341825548
>Why you people pretend like it's just you versus the turret is beyond me.
Same way you're pretending they're the only target the turret has?
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>>341807224
Every game is 12 players and the exact same map rotation, browser pointless, only one way to play
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>>341825548
>Why you people pretend like it's just you versus the turret is beyond me

Why do you pretend that it's you alone vs turret and 6 players?
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>>341824136
I only have more than 0 minutes on Mei because of one hero bullshit teams sometimes.
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>>341807716
>sort by ping
>look at map I want
>join
That sure was hard. I'm sick of playing these literal dog turd payload maps. They're completely fucking garbage in this game.
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>>341807224

Because it's a MOBA and MOBA's don't get that bullshit.
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>>341826263
There's literally nothing about this game that is a moba.
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>>341825624
>>341825706
I never said that. But you have to consider that both teams are working together
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>>341825949
>sort by ping
>look at map I want
>no servers with the map I want are populated because it's not the de_dust or ctf_2fort of its game
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Some of the more complained about points could be easily fixed by opening up some routes.

>Hanamura Point A
>Open up the useless left area before the gate so that it can be used to get to the left flank
>Open up the building on the right of the gate so it can be used as a balcony flank

>Hanamura Point B
>Create a bridge over the left hand gap so that heroes without vertical mobility can make it across


>Anubis A
>Access to the left and right flanks without going through the choke gate
>Have the left flank open up to behind and to the left of the point for extra flank opportunities

>Anubis B
>Open up right flank so that you can get to the point without exposing yourself through the choke or relying on the underpass


>Volkskaya B
>Have more ground on the right side so that you can flank the right hand side of the point without needing extra mobility abilities
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>>341811814

Overtime is the absolute best part of this game and the only thing that keeps every single match feeling relatively fun and fair.
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>>341826451
And people tend to go after easiest or most deadly targets, and there's nothing easier than a stationary target in a corner (might as well be a big "shoot here" sign for explosives) and there's not a whole lot of targets more deadly than a gun with 100% accuracy
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>>341811814
>hold spot
>enemy get overtime
>can't kill the enemy team who is always 1 or 2 men short and usually coming in 1 by 1

then you simply don't deserve it
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>>341825936
>this is the average amount of time the shitters on v have played
no wonder you all still complain about bastion, mei and hanzo's ult
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>>341825548
>You have an entire team protecting that thing by shooting at you, and someone healing the turret.

they have 1 character baby sit a aimbotting 50 something dps turret instead of having something useful?
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>>341827206
That's least used you tilelicker.
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>>341824136
Hanzo Widow McClutch
I want to git gud at flanking with Reaper and Genji I just cant into stealth
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>>341811253
Hoe do you avoid people anyway? Do you have to individually select them or.is down voting the match enough?
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>>341807716
>games are always what you want

If you like eating dicks


>find games in under a minute consistently

pic related, I've had to wait over 3 minutes for a 6 man group. The more you win the longer you have to wait it seems. They really want to fuck you and bring you back down to 50% win rates.
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>>341815854
>bastion and torbjorn turret dieing within a second upon seeing the enemy
>refuses to switch at any point in the game
>torb can't put up a turret and get it to level 2 anywhere

This is just so painful to watch. I can't even imagine it being fun to play.
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>>341814509
If anything Bastion is underpowered , he's so fucking easy to kill.
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>>341828221
t.Bastion main
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>>341828342
he doesn't see play in higher mmr because people don't want to be mean to each other by using an overpowered character ;)
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