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Were Adachi and Nagito right? Can smart people born without talent
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Were Adachi and Nagito right? Can smart people born without talent live happy or are they stuck in a limbo?
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>>341800848
Adachi has no drive in life, and therefore will go no where, but will continue to bitch
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>>341800848
Being smart equals being intelligent, high intelligence IS a talent because it's not genetic, can't be passed down and is quite literally an evolutionary anomaly. Intelligence alone however won't do you shit if you don't get lucky and figure out how to apply it. There's plenty of high IQ people having garbage lives and being truck drivers for example (according to MENSA membership status).
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>>341800848
Whiny bitch.
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>>341800848
It's more that talented/smart people without money can never live happy and are stuck in limbo

You could be the next Einstein but all those genes will go to utter waste if your parents aren't rich
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>>341801082
high intelligence isn't a talent unless you've got it in the right place
They were smart because they could see the world how it is, but they didn't have any field-specific intelligence, therefore no talent
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>>341801545
Pretty much this.
Only a few poorfags actually succeed and when they do it's entirely through luck.

Being born into a rich family is much more important than having talent or high intelligence.

>>341801628
>but they didn't have any field-specific intelligence
There is no such thing, you're confusing intelligence with wisdom.
Intelligence is something that you're born with, your ability to calculate and think clearly and see through bullshit. What you're speaking of is wisdom, which is gained knowledge and experience. Your wisdom can be library-sized if you become a fucking nerd and study 24/7 but that still won't make you intelligent if you weren't born as such. You can't increase your IQ, but you can increase your wisdom and knowledge.
The latter two are more important in life success than intelligence unfortunately.
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>>341801967
Not only that, but since most of society equates wealth to greatness and intelligence, everyone will inherently think you are smart and wise due to your wealth even if you're a total retard.

Money is all that matters. You could be a serial killer child rapist retard and get away with it if you're rich enough
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>>341802384
Rich people also don't go to jail for breaking laws, unless they flat out murder someone, and even then its not all said and done.
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>>341802384
>>341802696
All correct, bottomline is that high intelligence is more of a curse than anything if you're not born into richfag family. I know that pain personally.
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>>341801049
>>341801545
both of these are true

he has a point but acts like a defeatist douche instead of changing his life because he has no willpower.
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>>341802958
What could he change?
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>>341802958
If his superiors hated him or hade a grudge against him, there was literally nothing he could do aside from drop his career and find a new one.

People really tend to believe "everything is the individual sufferings fault", generally because society pushes this idea that reality and life are fair and good people never get fucked and bad people never win, even though reality is the exact opposite of that
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welp, at least nagito did something about it instead of whining like a bitch
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It's too easy to relate to Adachi.
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Don't listen to these retards. Many Philosophers were poor as fuck and people still study, reference and read their work today and forever. Happiness comes from yourself not from a foundation of wealth or riches.
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>>341802832
>sigh, no one will ever understand me and my genius level intelligents.

you're most likely delusional

there's a term for people like you. people that think they're smart/better than they really are. can't remember it now.

but youre so SMART, im sure you KNOW what im TALKING aboUT?
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>>341803404
Utter bullshit fed by the media which is, hilariously, entirely run by really rich people who curiously want to keep that wealth. Why? Because money DOES buy happiness, especially in the US. Money is essential to even keep basic human rights and in all honesty, money is a better defense than any gun you could ever have as well.

Enjoy trying to stop a lawsuit with your assault rifle, I assure you high powered lawyers would guarantee you a win. I also assure you being able to

>afford insurance and doctors visits
>afford a car
>afford a home that isn't a run down shack
All vastly improve quality of life and even your overall life expectancy and they cost money. There's a reason most poor people (even hundreds to thousands of years ago) died young but the rich still lived to an age considered ancient for their times.
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>>341803530
Yes, you fell into the >>341803187 meme
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>>341803857
no u
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>>341803857
It astonishes me anyone falls for this "good people are rich" idea. It's like they didn't pay attention to the 80's, or that they think people Like Donald Trump and Warren buffet became rich and powerful by being nice guys who play fair and not monsters who took every advantage possible to succeed, morality being inconsequential
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>>341804104
Proof you understood nothing
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>>341803782
> If you don't have money you can't afford this, and this, and this, and this, see money does buy happiness.

Happiness is based on your state of mind. Robin Williams was a talented movie star, and still killed himself despite having a family and money.
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>>341804283
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>>341803530
whY dOU YOU type like such a FAGGOT exactLY?

Also, IQ 144, I'd like to see you do better, but that doesn't even fucking matter, wanna know why?
Because I live in a shitty country, have a dysfunctional poorfag family and literally 0 connections and can't even afford university to get a decent job because all the jobs here have mandatory requirement of X degree, actual experience be damned.

But do tell me more what you know of life mr. spoiled brat.

Money is everything in this world, pity a retard like you can't see it.
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>>341804423

Nice rebuttal, you might as well watch while I have sex with your girlfriend too.
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>>341804521
HAHAHA YOU MAD MY FRIEND?

>m-mug iq

>im so smart, i have so much potential, b-but i dont have money or something

youre retarded
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>>341804283
Robin williams could have afforded mental healthcare. Tell me, anon, how do you think someone with Williams problems who was not rich would get help without bankrupting themselves? Answer: They don't. I've avoided a psychiatrist for years for a simple reason: I don't have 300+ dollars to spend twice a week for an untold amount of years, even more than that when taking into account medications.

And on the topic of physical health, I actually know people who have skipped needed cancer scannings and the like because it cost too much and they couldn't afford it. Hell, my mother ended up not getting a mammogram when she felt a lump in her breast because she could not afford the 2 grand for testing. I doubt Willams wife would have had such a problem.

>>341804253
Nice non-response, anon.
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>>341804283
Smart people can't be happy, rich or not
Money can give you autaraxia, escapism and erase you worries, but that's it
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Its basically explained in the story that Adachi identifies the problem correctly but his solution is wrong.
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>>341804650
As expected of a spoiled amerifat brat. Thanks for further proving my point. I rest my case.
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>>341804837
>non american/european thinks he has a relevant opinion

youre not even human
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>People actually believe Adachi was right

why? the whole point is that Adachi goes about trying to relieve his boredom the wrong way.
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>>341804691
It's not like the main cast has a correct solution either. Yu literally "wins" through protagonist luck plot armor and nothing else. Adachi was actually a quite realistic character that hit close to home, Yu on the other hand is an idealized super sexy can do no wrong Swagtagonist covered in bitches yada yada.
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>>341804837

you are shitposting on the same imageboard as him, sounds like an excuse to me
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>>341805121
Because his situation and feeling is relateable to people who also feel as if the world has simply shit on them and no one understands.

>>341805201
Also, this. Adachi was the only character remotely realistic in the game.
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>>341805121
>the whole point is that Adachi goes about trying to relieve his boredom the wrong way.
Way to miss the entire point of his character arc

Protip, the "I'm bored" part was an excuse he used for escapism due to his life fucking him in the ass sideways.
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>>341805201
Yu is realistic too in that he wins even though he's wrong because he's an alpha and only sees the picture the society and media want him to see, just like IRL
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>>341805303
anon i don't think you're entirely stable. you are not meant to identify with Adachi.

Adachi is, in actuality, the cause of all his own problems. The only reason he gets sent to Inaba is because of what was almost certainly a sexual assault charge that was dealt with internally.
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>>341805291
Are you trying to imply that I'm using 4chan for escapism? Wow, took you quite long to figure that out. Of course I'm fucking using it for escapism because my life is fucking shit and I can't afford to make it better because no amount of hard work matters when I can't even get a fucking degree due to not being able to afford uni. And even after uni I'd be doomed to wage slaving for the rest of my life until retirement, just at a better wage than I can right now. I still wouldn't be able to do what I actually want to be doing but can't afford to.

Life is shit and unfair and people are not born equal, anyone who says otherwise is too stupid to realize that, or too rich to care.
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>>341800848
right, talent alone will get you nowhere unless you are smart/wise and figure out how to achieve objectives.
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Kaiji > Adachi
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>>341800848
>Adachi and Nagito
those are two completely different characters
Adachi problem was his ambition combined with how insignificant he was, Nagito was so beautifully fucked up i can't even exactly explain what is his problem

also, both of them had their talents. Only difference was that Adachi became god plaything while Komaeda is god of luck himself
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>>341805360
I really find it both hilarious and sad how different the writing is in Persona 2 and 4.
In Persona 2 you profit more by NOT telling your party members what they want to hear and rather force them solve their own problems, but at the end you end up alone in a ruined world.
In P4 you do the exact opposite and tell people precisely what they want to hear, becoming the popular kid and having a cliche happy end.
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>>341805901
>cliche happy end

you end up leaving all your newfound friends behind
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>>341805829
Thanks for reminding me I was supposed to download this anime.
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>>341805845
Nagito only started to realize how to use luck later in the game
But in the beginning, he's basically angry at the world because he has no talent and won't get anything in life
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>>341805962
>leaving
For 1 fucking month until the next semester.
Wow, so fucking long. You don't leave shit.
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>want to play P3 to get in the mood for P5
>remember that you can only control the main character and that the AI is insanely stupid

I've had it for years and I played about 10 hours, but at one point I was so fed up with the Ai that I dropped it.
I know this game gets the most praise in the series (p4 is just way more popular, but P3 seems to be a fan favorite) but I never could get myself to bother with that.
What do?
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I empathize with Adachi. Everyone around me is so stupid and can't see through the bullshit of the real world. Sometimes I wish I wasn't so smart.
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>>341800848
It doesn't matter when you're Yu "Broswagonist" Narukami.
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>>341806263
>le AI is stupid meme
Please learn to use tactics, the AI never fucked me over once I learned to use the tactics properly.
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>>341806434
Nigger if the party members don't cast the spells that are the most logical ones, then it clealy is flawed.
I remember fighting a boss and one of them had heal but didn't use it, which would have won the fight. It's hard not to get frustrated by that.
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>>341806263
Get P3 Portable then
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>>341806623
There's a tactic that's called Heal/Support
And if you don't want them to only Support you can switch to Act Freely and they'll heal other party members when they are weak
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>>341806623
Nigger they don't know which spells to cast until you find the enemy weakness.
Learn to use Fuuka to detect enemy weaknesses and strengths, the AI automatically changes their spells once you know the weakness.
Shows how you literally can't even play the fucking game properly seeing as you never noticed that.
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>>341807065
>Fuuka finds weaknesses on bosses
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>>341807065
Alright I admit you got me there. It's been like 4 years since I last played it and I remember not liking the fact that you couldn't control them but like I said I was not that far into the game.
I'll give it another shot and make sure to pay attention to the instructions, thanks!
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>>341800848
anyone else watching spoony play this right now?
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>>341806434
Ai is stupid, though. She's the worst P4 girl.
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>>341807467
On bosses you can find them manually you know, and after you find the weakness your allies will know of it and exploit it as well.

>>341807620
I don't remember if the game actually teaches you those things, but remember what I said.
Tactics are your friend, remember to identify all shadows with Fuuka so you know their weaknesses and for bosses you need to find them manually yourself through trial and error obviously, but your party members WILL attack the weakness as long as they've got necessary skill, amount of MP, properly set tactic mode and the enemy weakness is identified.

The game isn't hard, you just need to fucking pay attention.
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>>341801049
>Has no drive
>Planned elaborate series of murders and almost got away with it.
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>>341807783
Isn't he a pretty big SMT/Persona fan?
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>>341808395
>Planned
His first murder was a complete accident and his second one wasn't remotely premeditated. He got away with them because it was literally impossible to pin their deaths on him due to their nature. After that, Namatame did the rest and all Adachi did was egg him on.
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>>341800848
I'm the only one who also feel bad for this guy? Yu and the others clearly know that he's a poor sperg that just tried to draw a little attention to him, but it's like they just don't give a shit.
I would have expected that at least Yu that came into the town without knowing anyone would at least try to empathize with hi.
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>>341806017
Read manger.
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>>341808708
Nigga started creeping on Nanako.
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Only misanthropes agree with Adachi.

Self-important cynics that think they're God's gift to the world and that it's some great injustice that anyone in life has a better station than them.
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>>341808708
>I would have expected that at least Yu that came into the town without knowing anyone would at least try to empathize with hi.

No because he's awkward
This game does a good job on showing normies hypocrisy
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>>341808895
Wasn't that the truck guy? it has been years since I played the game
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>>341807467
She does, you can't see them but the friendly AI can, that's why you need to tell Fuuka to scan bosses too.
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>>341809063
He did in the animu. I don't remember if he did or not in the game.
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>>341809063
Nah, Mitsuo was the kid who killed Murooka
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>>341808982
He killed an innocent person you dimwits. Fuck him.
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>>341808708
To be fair, for a while they legitimately thought he was the killer they were after. Even after they found out he wasn't, he was still a murderer and was probably locked up in jail for the rest of the game.
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>>341809512
He killed King Moron. He should've gotten a medal, then locked up again for having a shitty dungeon.
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>>341807910
To be honest, it's not about being hard, but about being bothersome or tedious. No JRPG is "hard" since you can grind your way to victory anytime, so there's that. However, it's tedious when you're not in control of your party members and they don't do things that you would do if you had the option to control them.
But all that bickering aside, I'll try to start this game anew next game and see if I still have the same qualms with it as I did when I first played it.
Thanks for the advice anyway.
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>>341808503
I dunno. But he fucking hates rise
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>>341805635
Anon pls. You're fucking up the rest of our escapisms. Dial back the truth a bit.
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>>341809626
King Moron was still innocent, even if he was an asshole to everyone.
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>>341804651
That's why public healthcare is a good thing

This is literally not a problem anywhere else in the world and it's staggering people defend that kind of situation
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>>341803857
Nit that guy, but If you tbink that's not true I can site my textbook that confirms this shit
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>>341804521
Why do you think you IQ is important? Why does anybody? Having a high IQ gives you self-proclaimed bragging rights, sure, but your IQ doesn't prove anything and doesn't make you better than anyone
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>>341810793
I wish that was the big thing discussed in America instead of whose coming for their guns, wither or not to shoot muslims, blacks, mexicans crossing the border, or the trans and gays. Maybe it's because it's easier to fight an enemy you can see and hate rather than the enemy that exists within people's minds and bodies. Or maybe, maybe they just don't care.
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>>341809823
But they DO what you want, you're just too stupid to set tactics properly and find the weaknesses.
Like I said, they won't attack them if they don't know them. It's your job as a leader to find them.
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>>341811101
If you grew a brain cell or two you'd notice I pointed out that IQ doesn't matter at all. It's a curse more than anything.
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>>341805635
What do you actually want to do, anon?
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>>341800848
Not sure if this is the place, but where should I start with the Persona games? There's like a million of the fucking things but they sound interesting
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>>341812317
A lot of things, almost all of which require a ton of disposable money.
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>>341812519
Get P3FES, either emulate it or buy it, doesn't matter as long as it's FES.
Then play P4
Then P1 if you're curious how the series started
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>>341811561
The answer is much simpler. It's greed. Too many politicians profit off the current healthcare system. Healthcare is more about making money than it is healing people in America. It's harder to profit off of free universal healthcare.
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>>341800848
>smart people born without talent
That's an oxymoron. If you're smart, you will develop talent.
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>>341812519
Do you want a classic first person dungeon crawler that's more linear in nature and has 2D sprite combat? Persona 1 on PSP

Do you want 3rd person dungeon crawler that's still using 2D sprites with absolutely amazing story? Persona 2 games on PS1, you will need fantranslation for Innocent Sin. There's also a PSP port of Innocent Sin that has some quality of life improvements but it also dumbed the game down hard and the second half (Eternal Punishment) wasn't translated so going from PSP Innocent Sin to PS1 Eternal Punishment is hell. That's why you should play PS1 versions of those, Innocent Sin is first half of the story, Eternal Punishment is second half.

Do you want a bit more lighthearted game but still with plenty of serious and dark, with social life roleplay aspect to it? Grab Persona 3 FES (make sure it's FES, not P3 or P3P).

Do you want a broswagonist self insert can do no wrong power fantasy with social life and dating elements and sunshine and rainbows story conclusion? Go for Persona 4, preferably Persona 4 Golden if you have a Vita/PSTV. Otherwise regular.

Persona 3 Portable is meant for re-playing the game as it cuts out a lot of content that was in FES and plays like a VN, with all 3D aspect outside of dungeons being removed entirely including most cutscenes. The draw to P3P is new female protag route, again targeted at people who already beat P3FES.

Persona 4 Golden is an expanded version of P4 with more content.

Hope that covers it. Persona 3 FES is probably the most "entry" and well rounded title so I'd recommend that.
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>>341812519
Start with Persona 3 FES then Persona 4 Golden.

Personas 1 and 2 are old hat and don't really matter to Persona 3 and 4 which are very much connected to each other.

Then there are the spin off titles, Persona Q on the 3DS, Persona Arena and Ulitmax on the PS3 and Persona 4 Dancing All Night on Vita. Don't play any of these titles until you complete Persona 3 FES and Persona 4 Golden. If you do not wish to play through the games there are 4 movies that tell the story of Persona 3 The Journey and there is a playthrough of the playable Epilogue, The Answer on Youtube, most would reccommend you watch that due to how horrid and chourish it feels to play. Persona 4 has 2 animes. I remember some people spliced parts of the original anime with parts of the golden anime together to make it more consistent but the link is probably long dead by now.

That's about all I can do for you. I recommend you get started if you intend on doing the games, you'll have just enough time to finish them before Persona 5 drops later this year. Don't worry, Atlus apparently shit on all Persona 3 and 4 fans by making the plot of Persona 5 stand alone and adults are all useless and evil, which I guess pissed off the people who would be adult age by now waiting for this game. Haha. Atlus took their money for nearly a decade and then made a game shitting on people just like them, it's like game NTR.
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>>341811725
You misunderstand. I meant, why do you think IQ means anything as a measure of intelligence?
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>>341800848
>Not believing in Ishimaru

"And that's why I'm so passionate about my work on morals committee. I want to create an environment where everyone has the opportunity to give it everything they've got. That's why I put all my blood, sweat, and tears into creating that kind of environment. I want everyone else to understand that, too. In the end, you can't succeed if you don't try.

Anyone who says differently is selling something. Effort is everything! That's the only way to fix anything in this world! And I have to prove that to all the ordinary people out there so they'll keep on trying! I have to become the ordinary man who can surpass any genius! Those are the feelings I carried with me when I entered Hope's Peak Academy."

Nagito was a chump who didn't have faith in the people he cared about. He just cared that they were "gifted," and not trying to understand why they cared about their own profession or ideal as a person.
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>>341801967
>Only a few poorfags actually succeed and when they do it's entirely through luck.
Not really. The playing feild ain't level but some one with enough drive can make it.
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>>341803530
The Dunning–Kruger effect
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>>341806028
Nagito is very aware of his luck from the moment you see him. His entire perspective of life is based on how he has been effected by his own Ultimate Luck. He's using his luck to try to influence the killing game from the very beginning, when they draw straws on who should clean up the dilapidated building.

Nagito considers his Ultimate Luck to be "Absolute Power", via his FTEs. But while he can influence his luck, he can't control it. And he doesn't think much of it, calling it "worthless" and "boring". One of the reasons he doesn't think much of it is that he doesn't think he can change the world or make it a better place like other Ultimates can with their talents; his talent is personal and only really effects him.
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>>341813416
>all those wrong opinions
>all that subjectivity
Kill yourself.

And to correct >>341813416 's faggotry.
Persona 2 has by far the best story in the series, Persona 1 is also well written about on par with 3, while 4 is quite poor in that department.
Furthermore The Answer is great, but despised by baby casuals that only started with P3 or 4 for the dating waifu aspect, rather than everything else, and guess what, Answer doesn't have waifu dating so they hate it.

>>341813530
IQ is your score on intelligence test that determines your overall level of intelligence, basically your ability to utilize it. Nothing more, nothing less.
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>>341812935
>>341813304
>>341813416
Thanks guys, I'll check those out
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>>341812524
A lot of things like what? It sounds more like you just want to have a lot of money, which is great and all, but why wouldn't you just say that?
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>>341812519
Persona 3 (portable or fes if you can), Persona 4 (golden if you have a vita).
Then you could try 2, it has a good story and characters, but the gameplay it's old school as fuck.
1 is awful, don't even bother with it.
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>>341813543
No amount of drive will help you if you don't have luck, you still need to be lucky enough to run into someone that will hear you out or lucky enough to get by an interview and so on and so forth. Luck is the most important factor if you don't have money. The sad truth of life.
Enjoy that RNG son!
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>>341813538
that reminds me, the funny thing about Nagito is how wrong he is. He thinks his talent sucks. Actually it's the most OP talent in the game. He thinks he's worthless. Actually he's probably one of the capable people in the series. He wants to see an Ultimate Hope, but all he ever does is cozy up with despair
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>>341813754
How mean.
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>>341813803
Because the list is long you goddamn stupid fuck, but for starters I'd like to literally "ideas guy" my own dream videogame with no regard for profit returns or budget.
I'd like to go on a trip to the moon and back.
I'd like to travel all over the world comfortably and visit all the places I want to see.
I'd like to have my own restaurant franchise.
I'd even like to do some things very petty and stupid that would cost me serious amount of money.

And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
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>>341802958
The ability to better oneself is a talent of its own.
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>>341803318
Adachi is the player. Yu is the person the player wants to be, and is trying to be vicariously. You're supposed to want Chie, Naoto, or Yukiko but know that you can't have them, making you relate to Adachi even more
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Why is Adachi so miserable? Seems like he's gotta pretty good life to me.
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Adachi is a big baby who lucked into a persona. You're not supposed to sympathize with him for his stupid talent argument considering he is shown to be a shitty cop multiple times.

Nagito is a whole other matter though. Nagito makes Adachi look like a chump.
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>>341814436
But Adachi does point out that he has no talent and is fully aware of that, and that he is indeed a shitty cop and only even became one because he wanted to have a gun. Sounds to me like you didn't pay attention to the game.
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>>341813939
>RNG
Wut? I'm not disagreeing with you anon luck makes or breaks everything. Drive lets you keep going though if you fail.
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>>341814607
he makes excuses, it's not his lack of talent that makes him unfulfilled but his shitty work ethic. He never gives himself a chance and then he blames the entire rest of the world because he's a big baby.
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>>341814427
He makes himself mesirable. He's a hater and a spoiled brat. His number 1 reason for wanting a girlfriend or wife is so somebody will cook for him. He eyes high school girls, He ditches work to shit talk citizens at the freaking food store and on top of that he killed two people because they wouldn't give him sex. He's pathatic and rather than make any effort at anything he just spends his time REEEEing at a society that doesn't even know he's alive nor has a reason to personally eff with his life.
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>>341814649
Whether you're born into a rich or poor family is entirely RNG.
Whether you luck out in life or not is entirely RNG.
Being born into rich family is in itself luck.

Life is all about the RNG of Luck.
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Luck is a skill
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>>341814834
Seeing as you're here, you clearly don't have it. Btw I'm going sleep so I won't even see your reply, stay mad :^)
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>>341814728
Adachi worked his ass off before he was sent to Inaba
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I unironically believe Nagito Komaeda is the best video game character created at this point in time. At some point video game writers will probably make a character to surpass him but it hasn't happened yet.
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>>341800848
Adachi's ideology is self-fulfilling, if he believes he sucks and fails to put effort into things he'll proceed to reap what he sows.

He's an autistic /r9k/-styled faggot who's convinced with the idea that they can't do anything cause they tried one or two things and failed at them.
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>>341814834
>>341815105
If you can't improve it with hard work and patience, it's not a skill.
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>>341815115
or so he says. Even still, he thinks good grades should be his golden ticket to slack off and be shit at his job. Fuck Adachi, he's a selfish baby and I don't sympathize with him at all. Might as well make the Affluenza teen the villain in P5 if you're so swept up by Adachi.
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>>341801082
>>341801628
I've heard it put thusly: intelligence (the ability to reason) is the brightness of a flashlight, and good judgment/intuition is the spread of the beam. They are actually not one and the same; it is easy to have one without the other. Society favors judgment/intuition ("common sense"); intelligence is like a multiplier.
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>>341801082
>high intelligence IS a talent because it's not genetic, can't be passed down
Geneticists disagree.
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>>341814772
Don't diss Adachi. All of usfucking niggas on this website have the potential to become an Adachi if we continue on this path. So shut the FUCK up
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>>341815326
>Affluenza teen
I still can't believe that fucker ran from the law and still didn't get put into prison for years once he was caught. I hope the lawyer who coined the term to save his ass knows that hell is coming for him in death.
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>>341815636
is your opinion of us so low that you think that if we got a persona the first thing we'd do is go kill two women who refused to sleep with us
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>>341815525
intelligence =/= iq

moreover iq is heritable, but not necessarily entirely genetic (although a portion of it definitely is)
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>>341816034
Neither term is very well defined, desu
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>>341816159
as a society we've successfully memed ourselves into describing a thousand unrelated traits by a single word that really only conveys a vague concept.
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>>341816381
And that word is "meme"
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Stupid people
You can do everything with friends
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>>341809626
>not liking the Big M
He's one of the best characters in the game. It was terrible to see him replaced with that uninteresting slut.
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>>341801082
High IQ can also take your drive to succeed out of life. There's some MENSA people who figure out the easiest possible entry-level job that yields the most money and do it (hence the truck driving/train conductors). If you're that smart, I think there's a level of cynicism that maybe goes hand-in-hand with it. To actually be successful today you usually have to fake a lot of optimism and drive and play the corporate ladder/figure out investing/retirement stuff. If you're not interested in the slightest in capitalism and just want to do the easiest thing possible so your brain can think about the stuff it deems more important, that's what it'll do.
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>>341807819
Die
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>>341812519
Play FES.
Or just play Nocturne
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>>341802832
I'm 'smart' (good grades college hurr durr read Schopenhauer in my free time and watch obscure absolute kinography whatever) and born into a richfag family. I never had to get a job growing up and had no pressure to develop any skills whatsoever (cooking, interacting in customer service, writing a resume) and now I've graduated and have none of the skills necessary to go out and get work. I'm also obviously lazy, maybe cuz of my upbringing, but also because all I want to do is read philosophy in my bedroom and play video games and not engage with reality. You're not guaranteed anything even with privileged background.
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>>341817270
ONE MORE GOD REJECTED
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>>341816737
I missed Morooka so much after dealing with his replacement... He was a dick but at least he was entertaining about it.
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>>341800848
Should actually be pretty simple. I don't know why Adachi thinks you need talent to live a fulfilling life. Maybe he's just jealous of those who are smarter than him.
As for Nagito, he just has impossibly high standards.
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>>341808636
This. Did people play the game? Why do people think Adachi is this mastermind?
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>>341815283
Ever heard about making your own luck?
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>>341816461
You just blew my mind, dogg.
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