Could this be it?
Is this the dawn of vidya kino?
so it's an Action RPG?
>>341775145
Will he be the salvation of video games? Or its destroyer?
Only time will tell
>>341775145
Has there been shown more than that weird ass trailer with Norman Reedus? What is that claim based on?
>>341775301
It's an open world survival/horror crafting game, with racing.
>>341775145
It has evolved from a game into art
>>341775145
Fucking horse shit I've never heard so much wankery in my life. It'll be shit like everything else.
>>341775145
Serious question why do people hold Hideo Kojima in such high regard. As far as I can tell from my, admittably limited, experience with metal gear solid he is usually responsible for a lot of the problems the games have - although i guess he can come up with decent characters he just can't spin a good narrative around them.
>>341775368
It's literally just ideas Kojima has right now that will never materialize into anything worthwhile except some cool TECHNOLOGY moments
He doesn't even have an engine yet
Kino is a shit meme
We could've had ludos but /v/ is too braindead for that.
Too bad
>>341775758
The metal gear solid games have an incredibly complicated and intricate plot, and usually feature a lot of really great obscure game mechanics. If you haven't played all the MGS games then you won't understand
He already stated it would be an easy to play casual shit like Uncharted. Its not going to redefine anything other than a new word for shit.
>>341775145
>genre: kino will be a real thing soon
>>341776047
t. Someone that thought Inception was 2deep4u
>>341776047
Ahh okay, how did people know when they were playing MG1/2 & MGS1 that they were playing such a great game? If you need to have played all the games to understand it how could they understand it when they could only play the first game in the series.
>>341775145
>vidya kino
It's called Ludenus, you ignorant /tv/ faggot
Only luderites such as myself can fully enjoy the craftsmanship of Kojima's mind
Can we permaban kojimadrones? Worse that sonyfriends.
What the fuck is with /tv/ spamming their fucking memes all over the place where they're not wanted?
Firt it was Baneposting, then Cuck, and now this Kino shit, whateverthat is.
Stay on your fucking board. You're like /pol/ 2.0.
>>341776507
someone get this hot head outta here
>>341775145
he didnt even choose a engine for this game and people already discuss which genre it belongs to? lmao
>>341775145
>Is this the dawn of vidya kino?
Is this the dawn of an ebin new meme?
>>341776743
Of course it is because people on /tv/ are the lowest of the low in terms of art sophistication. They just consume and consume trash and more trash. Literally video games are more of an art film than the trash that they watch on that board.
>YFW Death Stranding ends up being a massively pretentious piece of shit that finally makes people realize that Kojima is a massive hack
>>341776890
as low as /tv/ is i'm not sure that's true
>>341775758
They are indoctrinated. He's been like the only developer who's been shoving his name fucking everywhere in his games since day one. These autists have known him for a very long time and think he can do no wrong.
There is a good keynote by Jason Rubin who talks about this brand stuff. Sony wouldn't even put the Naughty Dog logo on the covers back then.
Its not going to be a new genre. Its going to be a mishmash of two or more and they will claim its a new genre, even if people point out how its just a combination of previously known genres.
Coming up with entirely new and not before seen genres in these days just isnt possible.
>>341776890
what did he mean by this?
>>341776902
>it ends up as pretentious pos
>sonygnog keep hailing it as greatest shit since loaf of bread
It will happen. Trust me.
>>341775498
You're probably right, even on the racing part.
Given Kojima's track record and obsessions it's going to be an action game with base building and recruitment that has some mechs and some kind of light and dark mechanic that only really plays out once or twice with an on rails section that looks cool but really doesn't affect much but there is a neat song that plays over it.
>>341776902
sony has enough money to warrant that would never happen.
>>341777449
Name 11 budget video games, 8 indie titles, 4 jRPGS, 4 wRPGS, and 2 art video games that do this
>>341775145
Is this just another word for roguelike/survival so that they can avoid labeling their game as such, because people no longer buy that shit?
>>341775145
It's ludo, you uncultured swine.
>>341776902
As if MGSV didnt already do that
>>341777689
Konami threw tons of money and time on Kojima too and look what happened. Don't tell me Konami is at fault for the state of MGSV, he had more than enough time and money spent on this shit
>>341776902
we already know this from MGS4 onwards
but he can still co-ordinate a team to make a damn fucking fine video game
Kojima is the worst ideaguy in the industry, stop memeing him into relevancy
>>341775915
Surely he's gonna use the Fox engine?
>>341775758
He's weird and funny and makes some nice games. Plus, there aren't many big-name individuals in vidya.
The MGS games have great gameplay, but too little of it. If there were less cutscenes, more levels, and less awkward controls, they'd be amazing.
>>341777835
> Konami fucks with literally every single division cutting budgets, forcing unreasonable deadlines, rushing their games out the door, etc.
> does the same thing with MGSV that they did with every single other part of their videogame division before axing the studio
> it's Kojima's fault
>the game is more than just an RPG or Action game
So drama? Guess that seems pretty fitting for Kojima.
>>341778067
I agree that they have good gameplay but correct me if i'm wrong isn't Kojima more responsible for the cutscenes than the mechanics
>>341777835
MGSV is still a mainstream commercial and critical success. What are you on about?
>A game so transcendental that it obliterates through the wall of genres and creates a new one.
>all we've seen is a trailer
D E L U S I O N A L K O J I M A C U C K S
>>341778157
He's credited as "director". AFAIK he has quite a lot of control.
>>341776271
He's just a kojima circler jerker. By his logic MGS fans lost all understanding of what made them love all the other games once 5 came out until they played it.
>>341778157
He's responsible for both. People just focus in on the writer thing more than the director thing so they can say "Kojima is a hack" because MGS is an animu at heart
>>341775758
If you haven't played mgs1, give it a try and remember the limitations it was built around (dualshock wasn't standart back then).
It is literally the go to piece you should look at, when you want to learn about the basics of good gamedesign.
>>341775145
I bet there will be a Demo of the game, much sooner than the actual release. Similiar to P.T.
>>341776902
It's pretty much his last chance. If he fucks this one up then his popularity will seriously decline.
>>341777810
MGSV's shittiness just gets blamed on Konami
>>341778463
I have played mgs1 I didn't like it very much.
>>341778082
They've spent almost a fucking hundred of million on the production costs and about 5 years to make his creation. They had all the reason to rush his creation up, especially if the content Kojombo already made was of questionable quality already. Yes, they've rushed everyone near the end, but even almost every part of MGSV is underwhelming shit. Are you saying that Afghanistan and Africa were supposed to look different? Are you saying that AI is supposed to be much smarter? Are you saying that second chapter wasn't supposed to be like that? Are you saying that additional missions weren't that dull in the beta/alpha/whatever and that's Konami's fault? Fuck him, MGSV is great at some trivial shit, like weapon customization or some quirky AI behaviours, but it completely falls flat as a game. Kojima is like Ulillillia with his Platform Masters.
>>341778889
>implying publishers, Konami of all, care about the quality of their games
If they cared at all about the quality they would have given him more time.
Seeing that a game is bad and rushing it just means you are in this only for the money, and that Pachinko machine proves it.
Very glad those fucks are out of the industry and that FIFA killed PES.
>>341775145
actually nintendo coined a new genre for the latest zelda, labeling it "Open Air Adventure" as Bill Trinen likes to call it and frankly it shows since instead of making a bland generic "open world" they made every inch of it interactive in some way reducing emptyness, I'm still skeptical though
Yes, yes, well done Kojima, well done.
However
>>341776902
>YFW it's a walking simulator
>>341778889
>Konami giving a single fuck about quality
>Konami even knowing quality when they see it
Dude, listen to what Konami's new CEO said.
He has no idea of what videogames are, he didn't even know MGS or Silent Hill had fans, he pushed for the smartphone shit because he saw the numbers and that's all.
Konami wants money and Kojima took a long time to make the game, so they forced him to release it earlier.
That's all there is to it. Doubt any of the big publishers care about the turds they release.
>>341775758
MGS games are really fucking good, and he puts his name all over them. It's pretty simple.
>>341775301
It's going to be a rhythm turn based horror card game
Its going to be a movie game and you all know it
>>341779821
>MGS
>good
>>341775145
I think what that's meant to mean is that rather than holding themselves to a specific genre their just going to make the game and see what it ends up being.
You know? Like developers use to do?
Fact: P.T. was god tier and better than 90% of the stuff out there and it was a SINGLE HALLWAY DEMO
Ridiculous
>>341775145
Ok, the hell is a kino?
I have been hearing that word a lot lately, is that another ABEIN MAH MEH or some other bullshit like KEKEKEKE?
I like the music.
who still mad?
>>341780421
german word for pretentious garbage
>>341775145
It'll be an action fishing game. You use your fishing line to hook onto key components of your enemy and rip them off until they die
you can also fish for ocean life to boost your stats
>>341780421
in my language it means a movie theater. In memespeak it means a really pretentious and artistic movie that will be hated by average joes but beloved by movie
connoisseurs like fa/tv/irgins.
>>341780421
Some shitty /tv/ meme, I think it's just a bunch of US mongrels finding out a foreign word for "movie theater" is "kino" and then misusing the word everywhere to force it into being a new meme.
>>341775145
>A game that doesn't even exist yet should be a new genre
Fuck video games and fuck these humans.
>>341775145
yeah hard to have genres when nothing has gameplay anymore
>mfw without Konami to rein him in, Kojima's pretentiousness is growing beyond control
>>341778067
>Surely he's gonna use the Fox engine?
Isn't that owned by Konami though?
I bet it's gonna turn out to be a David Cage like movie game.
>>341780914
what language is that?
>>341778067
> Surely he's gonna use the Fox engine?
No.
>>341775758
I want you to look at Inafune and notice the only difference is connections
>>341781283
Inafune is small time compared to the bullshit image that Kojima has been able to craft.
>>341780905
>>341780914
So an UPIKEH MAAYMEEIOH dwwweww XDDDD AND a KKKAKKAA then.
Sometimes i wonder why people like to generalize things they dont like with such retarded terms that much.
The game practically doesnt even exist yet and theres retards judging already.
Why, just why?
>>341777332
Well, David Cage is there to prove you right
>>341781386
Hence the connections part in my post, Inafune , like Kojima, has a bunch of shit attributed to him and never bothers to correct people so that lead to the abortion that is MN9, now only time will tell how Kojima fucks up his art project
>>341776047
>>341775758
>>341777131
>>341778067
>>341779821
>>341778463
Kojima is an auteur. For better or worse, nobody makes games like his.
MGS is overrated as fuck but still pretty good. His other games are better and are what shows his actual talent. I really like that observation about indoctrination though. It's so fucking true.
>>341781447
Kojima really went to the correct company didn't he?
>>341781273
German bastardisation of the french Cine(ma), also adopted by some slavic languages.
>>341781913
Are german movies specially pretentious?
>>341781606
>Nobody makes games like his
Wasn't Splinter Cell heavily compared to the MGS series? Aside from the convoluted story that inhabits every one of his games.
Kojima is the idea guy plain and simple.
>>341782126
>Wasn't Splinter Cell heavily compared to the MGS series?
No shit. They're both about stealth operatives.
Splinter Cell is nothing like a Kojimbo game except for the broadest strokes. Kojima is like Tarantino or other big creative names. His stuff has a certain feel to it that can't be imitated. You're missing the point completely if you're just gonna list games that are similar to Kojima's on a surface thematic level.
>>341775145
This is stupider than whenever everyone tried to coin the "character action" genre for action games like DMC and Bayonetta.
>>341776902
>people realize that Kojima is a massive hack
This will never happen. His drones' egos are too tied to their love of Kojima's "games". They would rather go down with the ship than admit that Kojima and them are all pseudo intellectuals that drank the Kool-Aid.
>>341782391
>Kojima is like Tarantino
And I stopped caring about anything you have to say.
>>341782596
>I don't understand what an auteur is
>I'm gonna plug my ears and walk away because willful ignorance is the only way to save face
I don't give a shit if you think Quentin Tarantino is a shithead. He's an auteur and you can't take that away from him.
>>341781434
>So an UPIKEH MAAYMEEIOH dwwweww XDDDD AND a KKKAKKAA then.
Ironic shitposting is still shitposting
>>341775145
>yfw the game starts out as a sex sim where reedus gets raped by 5 men
>yfw one of them is Kojima
It's a new genre alright.
>>341782797
>auteur
>In video games
Also
>Thinking I'm shit talking Tarantino
>>341782925
>I ran a google search on the term!
It's a perfect analogue. Movies are produced by a huge team of varying talents and creativer contributors the same way Games are.
Hideo Kojima, Hidetaka Miyazaki, George Kamitani Peter Molyneux and Tim Schafer are all examples of gaming auteurs.
>>341783238
>Tim Schafer
no
>>341782005
no,but they feature lolis
>>341775758
he's good at what he does best which is crafting a weird yet fascinating world with an equally so cast of characters.
The people who ever took MGS as something that was primarily supposed to be serious should be shot
>>341783238
>Ran a google search
I did no such thing, I'm just calling you a faggot by default.
>>341775758
The issue alot of people have with Kojima is his love of crazy narratives.
Story aside, Kojima loves to explore and experiment with new ways he can use video games as a medium.
In Phantom Pain the most apparent example of this was the whole language disease thing, which if you were clever enough to notice you'd be able to stop before it became too severe.
Other examples are Psycho Mantis reading your memory card, the codec frequency on the actual game case, etc...
PT / Silent Hills was going to experiment with the idea of impossible space and repeat experiences with different results stemming from different actions.
He doesn't just make video games, he tries to explore the idea of video games.
