>tfw none of the shitters play him anymore post nerf
Feels good to have my boy for myself
Agreed. Plus, 240 for one alternate fire is plenty, especially since they reduced his recovery time.
>>341719320
It feels like even more people started playing Widow after the patch
Played him yesterday. Caught an enemy Reaper with a stun a few times, but for some strange reason couldn't kill him with fan the hammer.
The new damage is 45, right? It should have definitely killed him at point blank, 25+45*6. But somehow he survived every time.
Is it because the stun is shorter than fan the hammer firing time and he could panic shift out of the stun and survive?
>>341719320
I never played him other than messing around in training. Was his Nerf that big of a deal?
>>341719509
Nope. His alternate fire was weakened but it truly was more of a balance than a 'nerf'.
He used to be able to take out any tank character with one alternate fire, it was a joke.
>>341719497
Yeah I've had some wierd stuff happen against Reapers too
Also a Genji that started reflecting shit early, does the stun not last very long if you don't hit flash bang directly?
>>341719509
He can no longer 1 hit tanks. That's it. (and the actually buffed his reload)
>>341719497
It's probably because you wren't hitting him with all the shots.
>>341719607
Flashbang does damage too
mfw i stopped myself from using fan the hammer so i can stomp post-nerf
mfw i have no face
>>341719658
mccree is an excellent sniper if you can hit shots
softning / executing far away tracers is a bliss
>>341719497
>>341719578
The stun only lasts for 0.7s. It really shows how broken his right click was.
>>341719749
Is that a flat amount regardless of how it lands?
Does the outter radius only give less stun, or is it just if it lands it lands
>>341719497
Could be:
>Symmetra shields
>Tjorborn armor
>Health orbs nearby from your killed teammates
>You' missed some shots
>>341719806
Flat amount. It's funny because blizz buffed it from 0.5s in the beta
>>341719497
Any enemies with pussy abilities like reaper or mei can now be unkillable with the flashbang combo thanks to fan not killing them before stun wears off
>>341719320
He's not terrible, but the nerf definitely hurt. Blizzard needs to buff him slightly because I have trouble dealing with Reapers and Soldiers now.
>>341720006
>buff him because i have counters now
????
>>341719320
Just switch to roadhog like all Mccree mains. For some reason none of the shitters whine about him
>>341719497
Yeah, stun wears off before you're done fanning.
>>341719497
If you miss even a single shot then that Reaper gets to walk away. FtH has immense spread meant to stop McCrees from fighting mid range with it reliably, so anything with a frame smaller than a tank you will miss a shot or three unless you're sniffing your target's asshole. To compensate, FtH was given a high damage per shot so that even with the missed shots McCree could still reliably kill while letting FtH have a big ass spread so he can't snipe with it, but letting it maintain its close ranged effectiveness.
Now guess what was just nerfed to the ground without a second thought in order to appease shitters.
As a McCree player, I liked this change. You can still combo anyone but the tanks to death, and it still rewards those that are skilled enough to pull headshots.
>>341719727
You need two headshots and a bodyshot, or five bodyshots if your aim is ass, to kill a standard squishy 200 hp hero at long range.
He's by no means an "excellent" sniper. He's decent at long range, and a fucking rape machine at mid and close range.
>>341720097
They really should've just made the fan more inaccurate. That was my only beef with him, still getting fanned from 20m away
>play Winston on KoTH
>lone McCree comes up behind me
>epic flashbang fan, roll fan
>mfw only half my health gone and chasing him down with my tickle gun
I'm sure he forever quit McCree after that revelation.
>>341720006
Just go for headshots instead of fan on them.
>>341720408
That's justice.
>>341720097
I just wish FTH could headshot
I always aim for it instinctively when I stun someone, but in the end im just fucking myself over because of the spread while trying to land headshots
>>341720097
Retarded McCree main detected.
>>341719320
>flashbang tracer
>left click her head
>???
>:^)
i find this more satisfying than fan the hammer
>>341720564
you're playing like a pseudo mei
>>341719320
>tfw when surviving 90% of fan the hammers now, even as an assault.
Thank fucking god.
>>341720408
>backtrack three inches out of tickle gun range while pounding winston in the ass with peacemaker headshots
true bliss
>>341720670
i think it kills her faster and more reliably
>>341720686
He could have but he didn't, he obviously relied too much on his combo crutch and just ran away when it failed, was one the most satisfying moment i've ever experienced in Overwatch.
>>341720752
I should try it
>BAMF on belt
literally memelands inspired character design
>>341720929
Bundesamt für Migration und Flüchtlinge?
http://www.bamf.de/DE/Startseite/startseite-node.html
>>341720752
Is McCrees headshot damage 125?Where the fuck do I find out how much damage something does on this game
>>341721139
le casual hide all information xDD
they seriously need to fucking fix the hero information tooltips (F1)
>>341719417
Because the nurf didn't do shit. She still has plenty of damage on her sniper, an assault rifle, one of the most no brain escapes in the game, and wall hacks not only for her, but her entire team.
>>341719410
45*6=270. Not 240.
Enough to kill most heroes like he's supposed to.
>>341721139
>>341721215
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1QgTenq3s-YesFgb-CPI6yIPpp4K9xot7LhTBo3Tm0Pk/edit?pref=2&pli=1
>>341721252
my net is slow so I had to watch this frame by frame and he was aiming at him with the hook and the shoot so its a fair play
>>341721252
>tfw I got good at roadhog once I heard mccree nerf incoming
It's like im playing pre-nerf mccree
>>341719320
I dont think the nerf hit all to hard.
I can still kill most of the attack heroes with one stun, take about 60% off a tank is fine with me.
>>341721139
125 headshot and 25 from flashbang
http://overwatch.gamepedia.com/McCree
>>341719497
Enjoy your trash hero now.
>>341721252
>throw hook at another roadhog at the same time
>somehow im pulled to him and AROUND the corner straight into his team
wierd shit happens with roadhog
>>341719497
>>341719749
>>341720097
Reaper has 250 hitpoints, Flashbang deals 25 damage, fan does 45, 25+45x5=250.
flashbang's stun lasts 0.7 seconds, fan the hammer fires six shots in 1 second, so 1 shot every 0.16 seconds. It takes McCree 0.8 seconds to fire five shots against a target that is only stunned for 0.7 seconds. All he has to do is hold shift when he gets stunned and he will never die. It's mathematically impossible.
Unless tickrate screws you.
>>341720929
It's a pulp fiction reference you disgusting child
I don't even bother playing Overwatch anymore.
it has just become boring and too frustrating to play.
I don't have fun playing the game. Actually discussing Overwatch with /v/ and the memes and shit is more fun then the actual game which saddens me.
>>341720083
Because shitty roadhogs may oneshot you 1-2 times but they are basically a free powerbank for your ultimeter.
>>341719320
he's still good though, people are just salty they lost their flashbang rightclick instant win.
Is Roadhog the new pre-nerf McCree?
>>341721354
>>341721419
Thankyou
>>341721278
You can kill every single Hero except Tanks, those need double fans to still kill.
sticking your 6 barrel revolver up roadhog's ass while pulling the trigger and he just stands there drinking his kool aid :(
>>341719320
I started playing him more frequently now after the fix, you still melt 200 ish hp players in one stun fan if you land all the shots and you can almost kill tanks in 2 fans as well but not as cheap and easy as it was before.
People need to rely more on left click because headshots do great damage with the revolver.
>>341719320
>can't kill mei
>can't kill reaper
>60/40 to kill Genji/Tracer
What is he good for again?
>>341722563
>>can't kill mei
>>can't kill reaper
>>60/40 to kill Genji/Tracer
Looks like you need togit gud
>>341719320
what are you talking about? everyone plays him all the same, people are completly unaware of the nerf
>>341722604
Or you have to get out of low skill bracket.
>>341722741
>Headshot reaper/mei twice
Oh look, theyre dead
>Headshot + winbang tracer literally once
Oh look, she's dead
>>341721275
>>341719417
She can't one-shot 150 HP characters with bodyshots anymore so I'm more free to play Zenyatta
>Be Zarya
>Shield Stun and 50% of the first fan
>McREEE rolls and right clicks second time
Pre nerf:
>Die
Post nerf:
>Don't die
>Still die to him if you can't shield or he baited it
Gud nerf
>>341722184
it's a gas not a liquid
>a lvl 90 widowmaker complains they made her useless after the patch
>kill cam shows he zooms out after every shot and tries to do snap bodyshots
My only wish is for these people to get cancer as well to make the circle complete.
>>341721139
Headshot at near point blank should be 140. it's a x2 multiplier. Plus flashbang that's 165.
>>341721275
>Nerf didn't do shit
>Zenyatta and Tracer can now survive a fully charged body shot
>it now takes more than two fully charged body shots to kill reaper and other 250+HP characters
It did a lot. If a widow is still destroying you it's because you're bad or she's really good. Either way, you deserve it.
This game is dogshit. I've already gone back to TF2.
This game is too accessible to casuals with it being so goddamn easy to play and Blizzard will never balance the game such the people who are actually good at shooter games can stomp. You can be the best player in the world and you're going to get cockblocked by enemy shields, stuns, and ult with virtually no counterplay to them.
Nerfing McCree's damage wasn't the answer. It was just to get rid of his bitchass stun, that's all that needed to happen. Just change the stun into an ability silence (enemies can only use their left-click primary weapon during the silence) and he'd be PERFECT, but no, he still has a faggoty E+RightClick combo.
>>341723091
Widowmaker also can't quickscope anymore right
>>341723091
>Why can't I go for the body using this character that was designed to go for the head?
hmmm
>>341721696
>mathematically impossible
Also, not impossible if it's on cooldown. If you can bait him into blowing it early or he already used it, he's easy prey.
>>341723204
Good thing you are back to tf2, i feel sorry for the tf2 community tho.
Does anyone know how winston was affected, if at all?
>>341723283
Why? TF2 community is more lively than Overwatch's
it always takes 1-2 minutes (sometimes longer) to get into an Overwatch game. To this day, I can still get into a nearly full TF2 game INSTANTLY anytime of the day.
>>341723204
>the people who are actually good at shooter games can stomp
Good tracer players can absolutely shit on normal players (exactly like career scout mains can shit on people in pub games, only countered by a sentry). Good Widows are also extremely disgusting to play against.
Seems like you need to git gud m10
>>341722974
This.
McCree still fulfills his purpose, he just can't smoke tanks instantly and actually has to try.
>>341723221
Yes, and her ulti charges more slowly.
The big difference I've seen is Zenyatta seems more viable because he isn't hard countered by the enemy team having one mediocre widow.
>>341723390
How I played last night at 3:00 am from eastern eruope and waiting time was only a few seconds?
>>341723314
You won't get melted instantly by a McCree in melee now and you can actually approach Widowmakers without getting sniped out of the air within split second.
>>341723314
He doesn't get obliterated by McCree.
Otherwise he didn't get touched I think. So... Stealth buff?
>>341722184
>6 barrel
>6
>barrel
Retard.
>>341723430
Tracer is a joke compared to Scout, lol. This game is too slow and has too many stuns and shields for a Tracer to ever really go off. Her damage output is trash too, Scout can kill even an overhealed Heavy without having to reload. This is coming from a professional Scout player.
>>341723721
When I play at 3am, I have 5 minute queue times and after those 5 minutes it's always with people I played with before in previous games. This game is sooooooooooo dead. I swear it's only like 200 people playing.
>>341723663
>Have a Sym and Oddjob on team
>Pick Zen
>Become a Zen with +100 extra HP thanks to them
>Go introduce the enemy team to my balls and kill the shit out of them
Zen is really fucking brutal with extra HP.
>>341723663
Did they make her ult callout any louder? It kind of annoys me how unnoticeable it is compared to the others
>playing Lucio on KOTH
>Roadhog hooks me
>blast him away
>hooks me again
>blast him away again
>happens two more times
>kill him
Sooo satisfying
>>341723791
>>341723940
check your ports, I think its probably something on your end.
You should never have to wait 5 minutes to enter a game.
I mean half of the class at my uni. is playing Overwatch and we are in eastern europe where no 1 buys games.
Thx to Overwatch I actually made many new friends at my uni.Chad did even invite me to join him with his friends for a drink after lessons.
>>341724134
ITS
HIGH
NOON
>>341723992
how the hell are you getting the opportunity to pushback when 90% of the time I get my face blown off before I can do anything
>>341723992
>Roadhog hooks your Rip Tire and kills his entire team because he panics
The best keks.
>>341724202
Probably faced a Roadhog who didn't know you can queue up the shotgun as soon as the animation ended on the hook then just finish with a melee attack.
Here's another neat tip, reload on Reaper then melee right afterwards for a much faster animation.
>>341724134
>implying that is McCree's gun
>implying that McCree's revolver has more than one barrel
Retard.
>>341724348
I didn't imply that at all
I just posted a gun with 6 barrels
>>341724348
>Being so anal about a joke
t. guy who looked for the same picture
>>341720408
It'll take longer for you to kill him than for him to reload and fan you again.
TFW now I am sitting with the normies at school and I can talk with them about tracers ass and they think that I am normal now.
>>341724457
Must be nice going to an Irish school.
>>341723204
>Nerfing McCree's damage wasn't the answer.
Yes it was you fucking retard. The problem with McCree is that he was blowing up tanks. His intended role is to shut down flankers like Genji and Tracer. Guess what happens when you don't have a stun?
I still think they should have removed the reload on his roll and given it something else instead.
>>341724297
You can also cancle Roadhog's reload animation early by either hooking or drinking
As soon as the counter says 4/4 the animation still hasn't finished and you'll end up with full ammo.
The gun is actually reloaded as soon as he stuff the scrap into the gun, that's the point where the counter ticks to 4, if you drink to interupt it or hook it finishes the reload
but im sure this is pretty common knowledge
>>341724632
roll reload isn't bad but he should have a cooldown on his alt fire like lucio
>>341723204
>I can't stomp shitters with my mediocre skills.
There are plenty of videos out there with actually skilled people driving enemy teams back to their spawns singlehandly or in pairs.
With the later being absolutely fine in a team based shooter.
Monkeygun needs more damage i think, it's basically useless
>>341725179
No.
>>341725179
Bad detected. You're supposed to use it to harass the backline, not fucking tanks.
>>341725179
Monkeyman needs armor instead of health
>>341723729
Her assault rifle dmg and speed is still stupid though.
Widow is a sniper class, she's not supposed to be that good at that range.
>>341725179
monkeyman needs an ability where he has the option to hold the shield projector for the expense of not being able to use the gun, so you can jump in with shield bubble on.
>stun and two headshots is now better damage than FTH
>>341719607
>>341720097
Nah, I had my gun right up his asshole.
>>341719847
I thought so too, since the enemies had a dwarf on their team, but on killcam it only showed him having his regular 250 hp.
>>341725179
>>341725437
>jump into backline
>drop bubble and harass
>they just walk inside it and kill me
>>341724267
There's a webm of a hog doing that with D.va's ult.
Of course it can be done the other way with a lone Roadhog suicinding to save the team.
>>341720097
make flashbang 1s stun, considering the fan nerf. 1s is enough for a double headshot
>>341725582
Gotta do the tango and dance in and out of the bubble since it works both ways for them but unhindered by you.
>>341723729
>>341723314
Now there's no counter to double Winston stacking.
>>341725387
Nah that thing is fine, besides D.Va without mech, every other character she is likely to encounter on her roofs and verandas will fuck her up easily
>>341725649
Double Winston/double Tracer and either double Lucio or Lucio/Soldier is already pretty much uncounterable if it has good players.
>>341725649
>this one character on his own should remain cheese so he could counter someone cheese stacking a well balanced character
>>341725649
You've got to be kidding me.
t. Le Die Die Die spinning shotgun man
>>341725649
Balancing after stacking is a silly thing, allowing stacking is silly as well but if you don't allow it then it will become assfaggots where people yell out their lane/role/class and instalocks.
>>341725795
Le die die die man might kill a winston one on one, but he's pretty much useless outside of that, while McCree's also viable Tracer/Genji counter, and a decent mid-range sharpshooter. But more importantly Reaper lacks McCree's (former) burst potential, so Winston can just escape and heal up.
>>341725778
McCree isn't/wasn't a cheese. Close quarter denial is his role. It's not deathmatch. He could at least prevent an actual cheese strategy that dominates KotH maps. The nerf wasn't a fair trade-off.
>>341726153
>Die die die man useless
>Can get unseen in every flanking position
>Heals if he gets kills when flanking
>Can nopeghost away to healthpack if things get dangerous
But hey when you run straight at the enemy he's pretty useless and you are shit
Has anyone else here tried the 5 soldiers/1 Lucio strat?
>>341724393
>>341724186
>>341724134
>inevitable trading and weapon drops happen
>that gun for macreeeee
>fan the hammer
calling it
>>341726393
Theres also the 1 Soldier/5 Mercys using Damage Boost
>>341720408
WHY HARAMBE
>>341726153
>McCree isn't/wasn't a cheese.
His only counter was literally a better McCree. Him being able to prevent the KotH strategy also makes him able to counter pretty much everything.
This is what McCree was supposed to be, a squishy killer.
Before he just killed everyone, even Roadhog. That's retarded.
>>341726393
I did, on attack on Hollywood. One of the most legit stacking, since 76 is good at everything.
Then we went 6 Toblerones in their turn to attack. We were waiting for them they got devastated and left.
>>341726375
>bright red cloud that also announces its presence with map-wide "FROM LE SHADOWS"
>unseen
>Can pussy out and try to run away in ghost form only to be shot in the back like a coward
His range is just too shit. A soldier can do just as much damage from a mile away with minimal effort as a super sneaky shotgun spy man after an hour of circling around the enemy team and picking the right moment to backstab them.
>>341719320
>tfw knowing i soon won't have my waifu for myself anymore
>>341725795
Ults should never be the answer to counter things.
>>341726584
This histogram means nothing.
It equals to a popularity poll among """pro""" Overwatch players.
>>341726584
>Less Hanzo players than Symmetra
no fucking way
>>341719320
nobody give a fuck about this shitty game shillfag
Because his prime utility (tank killer) is gone.
Now he is effectively Ambassador spy and nobody liked playing that.
>>341726747
Hanzo is made completely obsolete by the Widow. Symmetra at least has her own uses.
>>341723314
he does better against widow
she still needs nerfing though
>>341726629
Yeah, I think Reaper needs something more but I'm not quite sure what. His effective range is laughably small unless you're fighting a gigantic tank character and his movement tends to be extremely noticeable.
>>341726747
Teles are hella useful.
>>341726640
What, are they about to buff Winston?
>>341726849
He just needs a bit tighter spread with less damage fall off.
>>341726805
You care enough to post ;).
>>341726849
>get in close on someone
>start headshotting them at point blank
>game acts like I'm shooting them from 30 feet away, only does like 30 damage
Why.
>>341726375
>you must be W+M1 in this very simple game if you don't agree with me
If you want to make good arguments, you should assume your opposition at their best.
>>341726819
>>341726864
I see at least 1 hanzo player every other game
Symmetra players are much much rarer, there's no way those stats are correct
>>341726629
Just learn the maps where you can teleport from and to safely to flank which position.
If you know your shit enemy team, aside from hanzo and widow wallhacks, wont see you coming unless they take the first shotgun to the head.
>Pussy out
Sou you really rather die running straight in firing from 2 miles away?
>>341726640
I see plenty of D.Vas and I contribute to that impression.
>>341726974
The stats are for competitive play.
>>341726974
>competitive
Read carefully.
>>341726837
>Had a game where we lost but me and my friend were doing extremely well
>Rekt their supports fairly consistently but just continually getting pushed off the payload
>Near the end of the game someone's screaming at us to KILL THE MONKEY
>what the fuck we're not gonna focus the tank with the tickle gun you idiot
>Turns out he's been playing Widowmaker all game and has been getting continuously dumpstered from start to finish and decided it was our fault
fuck's sake
>>341726974
Randoms just don't pick her because she isn't as fun to play and doesn't have SKILL WAGA KURAU. Doesn't mean she's less useful.
>>341727095
Which is fucking hilarious because it means literally no one respects her damage and get all surprised when they ignore her and she murders four people in a row
>>341726982
The wraith form is meant to be used offensively to pursue enemies fleeing from you on low health.
>>341727095
Considering the average Hanzo, a dead squirrel on the keyboard would be more useful.
>>341726584
>Mei, Hanzo, Roadhog, Bastion least
Yeah whatever the source is on this it sucks.
>>341727174
That makes no fucking sense.
>>341719417
I'm doing much better with her after the patch. But that's probably because I'm dabbling with the devil leaf, which calms down my usually twitchy mouse movement.
She's still broken as piss, I pop multiple infra-sights a round.
>>341727174
t. McCree player
>>341726805
Man those madman at blizzard must be giving away millions to advertise their shitty game, you could make an OW board at the moment and it would actually be one of the faster ones.
JUst imagine how many shills that must be. I mean who else would post in these threads, am I right?
>>341727174
How is it at all advantageous in such situation?
>>341727226
>I can't read
>>341726910
Damn it, this is what i post for
>>341727308
If that's what they wanted it should, y'know, speed you up by a respectable amount. Or reload your guns. Or let you cancel it manually. Fuck, something.
>>341726849
>Reaper gets an alt fire
>throws one of his guns at the enemy for 4/8 ammo
y/n
>>341727498
make this happen
>>341727453
>Or let you cancel it manually
WHY CAN MEI CANCLE HER HEALING BULLSHIT WHILE REAPER CANT
IT MAKES ME SO FUCKING ANGRY
>>341726718
You're a deluded idiot if you think you even come close to playing at the level of the pros.
>>341727226
It's for the comp scene, aka when you've got a full team of people working together and you're picking your team for synergy
>>341727530
Why is the font so inconsistent for asian countries
I've even seen multiple kill notifications on the same screen that have completely different fonts
>20% of the team damage healed as Zenyatta and the team's sole healer
>not a single commend
This game makes me wan to fucking kill myself.
>>341727678
Your favorite streamers can't see you sucking their cock on 4chan. Maybe you should go make another donation on twitch.
>>341727498
Hell, he used a grenade launcher in the museum fight. Or his Wraith form could be used to scale walls and not tell everyone on that half of the map that there's a Reaper around, he did that in a cinematic or two.
Roadhog and Mei are the only characters in need of nerfing
You cannot prove me wrong
>>341727530
>my country needs me!
>dies
thats so french
>>341727730
why does it always say """""trancendences healing""""" every single time, as though your orbs just dont mean shit
>>341727662
Because she's still, while Reaper is moving.
So what if Mei cancels, she's not going anywhere.
>>341727498
YES! Doesn't matter how dumb it is, YES!
Alternatively I would prefer though if it was part of the reloading and did pretty low dmg, I don't even want to admit how often some monkey got away with a sliver of health, that might be too strong though and would be less stupid.
>>341727730
20% isn't a lot. I only commend 40%/9000+ healers.
>>341727530
Wait what, are they grappling on each other's grapples?
>>341727808
Neither of them need a nerf.
For someone that sucks at FPS and is generally incompetent, which hero should I play?
I started playing him after this patch and I don't even use right click on most people. It's almost always a better idea to go for 1 headshot + some body shots than to right click, unless you're super close to the enemy. I do right click + roll + right click on tanks though if there's no one else around.
>>341727869
its a b-ball that then gets shot by another widowmaker
>>341727730
Solo healing as zenyatta should not be rewarded. You're lucky there's no Demerit button.
>>341727869
They're grappling onto a basketball.
Junkrat can place a trap and a mine on one and launch it at the enemy team with a melee attack. There's a video too.
>>341727910
overwatch
>>341727797
His other ability is already for getting up places though.
>>341727850
>quickly dodge an ult like rip tire or barrage, unfreeze to keep on fighting
>wraith form behind a rein
>stuck in wraith form wanting to shoot him in the back
>stuck in wraith form wanting to shoot him in the back
>stuck in wraith form wanting to shoot him in the back
>timer finally runs out and the whole team had time to adjust/arrive
>>341727808
If there's a Mei on the enemy team pick Zarya; she can't freeze you or your teammate through shields.
If there's a Roadhog, don't worry he already got killed by your team's Reaper
>>341727910
Hanzo. You'll fit right in.
>>341727910
Lucio is always a credit to team as long as he's not dead.
>>341727985
It also alerts everyone within a fucking mile. If they could quiet it down I'd be happy with that too.
>>341727995
maybe you're using wraith form wrong
>>341727797
But that wouldn't be as hilarious as chasing someone and knocking them out with a tossed shotgun to the back of the head.
>>341727876
>Look at enemy, press shift, then left click
or
>Hold left click on enemy for a second, then right click head
How is this okay?
>>341728097
Maybe Wraith form just isn't designed super well.
>>341727995
Small price for getting a get out of jail card as an escape ability.
It's basically "I lost a 1vs1, free escape now"
>>341727995
>wraith form behind a rein
You know you can just walk through his shield, right? It only stops projectiles.
>>341728146
You've got a point.
>>341728204
Which is literally what Mei gets + a heal
>oh shit lost this 1v1, better reset and heal up
>>341728176
Invincible while being able to move and pick up health packs. It's great and you're a shitter for thinking it's bad
Something funny is happening. I'm genuinely get way more upset at people complaining about team composition than when we don't have proper team composition. I swear to fucking god people who whine about how there's no healers, or tank, or how there's 2 of the same hero, or how there's Bastion on attack, or WHATEVER THE FUCK. These people are the fucking cancer ruining this game.
I can't wait until ranked comes so you can all fuck off there while I have fun in normal play.
>>341728176
why couldn't you simply walk behind the Rein and then Wraith out if something bad happens? what about the *teleports behind you* skill, maybe that is more for getting behind people, unawares?
maybe you're using wraith form wrong.
>>341721696
Just shoot him once before stunning him, then. Easy money.
>>341728290
But she doesn't escape, she just buys some time.
>>341728320
I don't think it's bad, exactly, I just think it's at a weird middle ground between offensive and defensive and feels a little underwhelming as a result.
>>341728465
>she just buys some time.
She resets the fight
>>341720408
Why didn't he just keep fanning the hammer on you? It's still a pretty viable tactic against tanks, especially tanks with low damage like Winston and D.Va
>>341728407
>DEATH CO--AAAGH
>>341728290
Funfact, I never lost to a Mei 1vs1 if she was forced to freeze herself.
You can line up your head shots, chances are your own abilities are of cooldown.
If her teammates show up, sure she did good, but that can go both ways.
>>341728378
its always complete LoL shitters, their entire world falls apart on the team comp. screen because they know they have nothing going on in the actual game to carry through no matter what. they also have a terrible idea of good/bad heroes and still talk shit even if you carry with your hero and have like 3-5 gold medals, again, they can't actually process the game because they have no place in an FPS, they wouldn't know what carrying looked like if it dragged them onto the objective with a invincibility bubble.
>>341728663
>You can line up your head shots
But that's the thing about being able to cancle, you can mind game the fuck out of people by breaking out early, granted you don't get the benefit of the full heal.
I wish you could cancle wraith form, it'd be so good
>>341728518
No, she buys time for her teammates to arrive, or if she was fucked enough to use it, more probably yours arrive.
When she exits the fight has changed.
>>341728765
It's spelled Cancel you fucking nigger
>>341727995
>>341728176
>playing junkrat
>a reaper keeps coming for me
>I'm not too good at rat in close quarters
>he keeps killing me
>he proceeds to die every fucking time to birthday bombs going for my soul
I bet that was you
>>341728943
I actually play a lot of Junkrat so nah
>>341728831
She can easily disruptive a 1v1 fight by tombing either for the heal or for blocking damage, and has the freedom to get out whenever
>>341728851
did i trigger you
>>341726974
I think this is only high end competitive play.
>>341726584
>Now it's nothing but double pharah and mercy
Yet they refuse to see the problem with hero stacking
>>341728765
Anyone with half a brain will set you up within a second unless you cance it instantly, in which case your only advantage might be if they reloaded and you have a second or two to finish them before they finish you.
>>341721712
No if it was an actual Pulp Fiction reference it would actually say Bad Ass Mother Fucker.
What we got is a watered down PG-13 rated embarrassment.
>enemy team has Lucio
>this guy is so hard to kill what the fuck
>pick Lucio myself
>incredible mobility and speed
>never need to stop jumping around
>no reason to stop shooting ever
>knock back anyone who comes close
>spam Amp It Up whenever I can with no penalty
>both team and me always healed up
>ultimate shuts down even the best enemy pushes
>gold eliminations
>gold objective eliminations
>gold objective time
>gold healing done
>0 deaths
Now I understand.
>>341728943
Maybe it was me.
I pretend I'm atleast decent at this game but those jihad bombs are the bane of me.
Especially as Genji but I managed to die to them as everything by now, even while doing a 5 man kill spin to win with le Edgeman.
>>341729576
>Those Lucios that understand skating around the christmas tree on KoTH objectives are notoriously hard to kill
>>341721252
>that jittery turning
Is that what extremely low sens looks like
>>341724718
Based reload cancelling, I got good at it in BC2 where you can cut stuff like sniper rifles, removing like half the delay after every shot and reload
>tfw playing close quarter sniper, one-hitting people while jumping around frantically to avoid hits and spamming 1-2 after every shot
It's fun
>>341729769
The first time I saw one do that about my whole team was standing in the room during overtime, being confused why the game didn't end, while we clearly heard the skating sound above us but still didn't notice shit
That was pretty embarrassing
I think they should consider removing or lessening the LMB distance damage dropoff for McCree now that his fan is worse.
>>341730283
what is the map called you can do it on? lijang tower 3rd map?
>>341730375
But he's still insanely strong, that would make him bonkers
Sewriously people just try hitting things with your lmb that deals 70 goddamn damage on a bodyshot, instead of still relying to fan combo to kill everything ever
>>341729769
I just go Mei and freeze his ass
>>341719320
Yep feels good indeed. McCree shitters packing up their bags since their free win fight button isn't so much of a win anymore.
>how dare they make me use left click!
>>341730375
>hitscan weapon
>we should remove the dropoff
"no"
>>341730419
Yeah i think that's the one, the one with the bridges
>>341730375
That would make him too OP
>>341721252
HE'S FAST
>>341730375
he's not a fucking sniper, and he does more than enough damage on it already
he really seems fine now
>>341723940
Lol, you probably got blacklisted by players who don't want to play with you.
>>341721975
Reaper can sometimes break out of the stun and ghost away like a faggot which is annoying but yeah, way better now.
>>341729806
No it's shitters who can't play fps.
>playing zentart
>weak heal
>only evasive maneuver is float slowly in another direction
>piece of shit tracer/pharaoh/widow/genji
>die because I'm a low hp piece of shit
>unless I discord and headshot then 3 times
Who knew being slow, having low hp, and the best mobility skill you have is jump, with the weakest support ult, and the the weakest most awkward heal would be fucking trash
Wow he can do damage sometimes! So can every other character. He can heal and debuff so gud but you need los, and then you die for being in someone's los.
Extra hp would help him defend himself against harassers but not by much
Suit by design
>>341729576
UNDERSTAND
UNDERSTAND
>>341731442
Discord orb is a death sentence for anyone if your team isn't a bunch of mouthbreathers
I think Zen is pretty alright. He beats any 250 or less hero mid range or farther just by himself.
>>341731442
Sounds like you're overexetending or not playing behind your team, friend. Maybe you're just bad or your team is.
Probably the former, but likely both.
>>341719497
you basically need to fan straight away and assume the stun will hit
>>341731442
>Find a lonely Zen floating around as Roadhog
>Ohthisgonbegud.jpg
>I run towards him
>Miss my hook
>He discords me
>Absolutely fucking blows my health bar up in 4 shots
Why even play McCree now?
>fan damage wont kill anyone unless every shot hits
>lmb damage falls off to the point of it taking 5 shots to kill people
>reaper is betetr at close range and flanking
>76 is better at med-long range
He's essentially a flashbang. Maybe he'll kill a bad tracer and cancel a few ults?
>>341731940
Just right click him. I've one shot 200 hp heroes with it as RH and its hilarious.
>>341731759
UNDERSTAND
UNDERSTAND
>>341732090
Once he gets his orb going he does insane DPS and melts tanks.
He is per definition a glass cannon
The only real weakness I found with him is that Discord has a travel time, which effectively means you have to wait a few moments before you can really start whacking away at long range targets.
