What went right?
pandering to retards
atmosphere
gameplay
soundtrackps4 exclusive so the community isn't garbage
Lack of Bandai Namco fucking shit up
>>341718815
Everything.
>Setting
>combat
>bosses
>DLC
>level design
>no hand holding
>not fucking up the fanbase by releasing on PC
Everything that could have went right, went right
No PC release
Catered to the reddit crowd
Everything except blood vials, chalice dungeons, andthat awful fucking counter damage effect.
Seriously, it's fine when I'm attacking, but don't fucking one shot me because I didn't time a dodge correctly you piece of shit. It's absolutely ridiculous and puts Dark Souls 3 above Bloodborne in my opinion.
>>341718815
Combat was a massive letdown for me but everything else about it was great.
>>341719047
>Combat was a massive letdown for me
DS2 shitter detected
It wasn't on PC
Everything that isn't:
>Covenants
>Online
>Vial farming
>Chalice dungeons (great concept, though, I wish they'd brought them back for DS3, only not shit)
>>341719047
>Combat was a massive letdown for me
But it's the best combat in the entire soulsbourne series
Even feels like DMC at times when you fight other hunters
Tried nothing new, gobbled up by idiot fanbase
>>341719230
>>341719170
I just didn't like the fast pace and the fact that it felt like mashing the attack button was a good way to defeat most of the basic enemies.
>>341718890
>>341718942
>community is amazing because it's exclusive
>general is pretty much dead to the point of falling off the board on its own
>say anything bad about the game or that you prefer Dark Souls and you get swarmed by NEVER EVER fags
The Lovecraftian twist is the best one in video game history.
>>341718890
But there's barely anyone online now. This wouldn't be the case with PC.
>>341718890
>>341718942
>>341718946
>>341719178
20 years later PCucks are still butthurt
>>341719534
>But there's barely anyone online now.
WHy are you lying PC shitter? Are you that bitter?
>>341719534
>This wouldn't be the case with PC.
true, it would be filled with hackers banning your from the game with their own cheats
>>341719462
Because coincidentally most people who shit on Bloodborne don't own a PS4
>>341719704
I just played for a few hours. You will be standing there for hours after using the beckoning bell and no one will join because NO ONE IS PLAYING ANYMORE. Online community is dead.
>>341719317
>prefers sitting behind a shield for 5 minutes
I bet you love zelda games
>>341720273
Never played a Zelda, but when it comes to Dark Souls combat it just felt a lot slower and more deliberate. Felt like I had to pick my shots more, rather than just hit buttons until things died.
It's an elevated form of art with actually pretty good gameplay, no other game could achieve that flawlessly.
Also no PC
>>341718815
playstation exclusivity meant they could focus on developing on one platform instead of having to make a shit game that runs on everything and panders to xbots, also it keeps hackers away.
See how shit ds3 is by comparison
>>341720357
With the way strafing works in bloodborne do u really think that would work well, and also the fact that there are no shields (except cuckshield)
>>341718815
Making it exclusive gave ammunition to a rabid fanbase of corporate advertisers.
>>341720357
>rather than just hit buttons until things died.
Now I know for sure you've never played bloodborne.
>>341718942
Always loved that fan art but how do you chop a head off with a rapier? Would have made more sense with a Chikage
>>341719493
>inb4 faggots who never read Lovecraft bitch about how it isn't Lovecraftian
>>341718942
I never understood how they could see through those stupid golden traffic cones on their heads
>>341718815
Also its because of the top tier cutie dolls
>>341720507
>playstation exclusivity meant they could focus on developing on one platform instead of having to make a shit game that runs on everything
iron
>>341720556
Oh I don't think Bloodborne should play like a Souls game if it isn't one, I just preferred Souls combat vastly.
>>341720581
I did though. It was an exaggeration, but it definitely felt like mashing the attack button was a good strategy for lone basic enemies. You could stunlock them easily with the quick weapons (I used the saw cleaver mostly, until I found the tonitrus)
>>341720674
You can do that in DaS too, though.
>>341720557
Fuck you, cunt.GIVE IN
>>341719534
Yeah, on PC you would have Level 1 characters with max stats because they always hack around in Souls Games.
>>341718890
>ps4 exclusive
>>341718942
>not fucking up the fanbase by releasing on PC
>>341718946
>No PC release
>>341719178
>It wasn't on PC
>>341719704
>PC shitter
>>341719561
>PCucks are still butthurt
>>341720373
>Also no PC
Because releasing a game on PC somehow ruins it...
>>341720731
The slower pace meant that it was a lot less common though, unless you stuck exclusively to the speedy weapons.
>>341720896
>still mad as fuck
>>341718875
t. Asspained non-ps4 owner
>>341720651
What exactly is the twist?
Are you retarded?
There is no plot, how can there be a twist?
>>341718815
PS4 exclusivity
I don't think I'll ever understand it. Why people fight over a piece of hardware. It's fucking equipment for playing video games.
>>341721283
I'd say the same if I were a Pcuck ;^]
>>341721058
>Uh-oh, something I don't understand!
>QUICKLY, BREAK OUT THE MEMES
Bravo on the absolutely stellar rebuttal.
Flawless evasion of the facts there.
cancer tumor on otherwise the great series
>>341718815
Not on PC, look what happened to DkSs.
>>341721418
>Not having both
>>341718815
ADHD Souls
>>341719884
IDk what you on about, I get connections after 5 minutes. 10 tops. Sometimes back to back for hours.
>>341721647
heralded as one of the best games of the generation?
>>341718815
PS4 exclusive.
>>341718890
>implying a mentally regressed community is better
What's your noscope count?
>>341719796
I've had SEVERAL reservations about this game despite having played it because no, my problems are actually not problems I'm just a PCuck lel.
FUCK your chalice dungeon bullshit. It sucks and it fucking blows, shit has bad level design, shit has bad enemies shoved in it (looking at you, spider summoner), it's repetitive, it has some of the actual worst bosses in the series in it for some fucking reason, and the level scale of it is all fucked up. Also I need to go in there if I want to do PvP efficiently, or if I want to do the unique, actual good bossfights shoved deeper into the damn thing.
Fucking honestly, why is Bloodsucker, Maneater Boar, Merciless Watcher, Beast possessed soul and Loran Silverbeast some of the actual bossfights in there? They're just upscaled normal enemies. I've fought them all before encountering them as bosses, and they're just the same thing with a fuckhuge HP bar.
Chalice dungeons are fucked and they stick some min-maxing shit in them for giggles for no good reason. All the alternate weapon versions and the blood gems of actual use are stuck in there. Great.
Honestly, Bloodborne does a lot of the base game great, no major complaints about the base game except the length of it. And maybe one of the forest areas being shitty.
The DLC is even better than the base game. Except the fishing village. Fuck the shark giants.
Honestly the game does great. I just hate the idea of it being perfect, because it certainly isn't. Ebrietas and Ludwig can both suck my dick with their charge attacks. I've heard people say the way to completely dodge it is by disengaging lock-on and then roll, which is some retarded shit. And the hitbox for those charges are completely ass, with some really annoying implications:
During my run of the game I built a rather low-HP build. Ebrietas charge would kill me if I fuck up dodging, because of the damage penalty on fucked up dodge timing. However, if I just stand there and eat the charge, I survive.
>>341718815
Nothing. Now what went wrong:
>split the fanbase
>almost no replayability
>ADHD YOLO style of gameplay is encouraged
>little to no variety in everything from weapons to clothes/armor
>shitty ass magic replacement
>character creator is worse than in DaS2
>fanbase is elitist as all fuck
Feel free to add
>>341718815
Just about everything, honestly.
>>341721515
Rebuttal to what? You didn't make an argument.
>>341721848
> I've heard people say the way to completely dodge it is by disengaging lock-on and then roll, which is some retarded shit
always locking on is pleb tier tactics. Be it Bloodborne or Souls
>>341718815
Trick weapons
>>341721971
>fanbase is elitist as all fuck
Literally this.
Funny how Sonyggers are steadily becoming the new "Master Race" circlejerkers.
>>341721848
>chalice dungeon bullshit
salty pcuck chalice dungeon are fun as fuck go play DaS3.
>>341722254
Better to ignore fanatics and enjoy games imo
All elitists are equally as bad, be it PC xbox playstation or w/e
>>341721971
meh, I can see where you are coming from with all except weapon variety. Transformation weapons were one of the best thing to happen to soulsbourne. and each weapon feels distinct.
all the dank OC it spawned, from fanart to memes
>>341721971
>little to no variety in everything from weapons to clothes/armor
WEW LAD, I could not possibly disagree more. The weapon variety is the peak of the series, especially if you include the DLC.
>>341722215
I'll buy that, I've started switching my lock-on a lot for fights like Dancer and Nameless King in DS3, works a lot better. But in BB, that means I give up my sidestep in favor of the roll, and the reason for it is that the sidestep would bend slightly due to the lock-on on the charge, thus not giving me quite the full distance on the dodge. Honestly the attack and how to solve it, according to some, is unintuitive as fuck and is straight up bad. Doing it with lock-on works some times, I guess with a very specific timing, and thus I'm led to believe that is the way to do it, just have to adjust my timing accordingly. But it ends up feeling almost random with how the timing should be applied. It just fucking sucks.
Had I been playing after hearing that advice I would've tried it it, but it was after my NG+ run through the place so I'm not gonna bother to run through the game again for that.
Honestly, disengaging the lock in BB is unintuitive straight up by the fact that you get a roll instead of the step dodge.
>>341722254
every fanbase is full of retards
thats why they are called "fan-base"
anyone who can't point out the flaws of his favorite game , its a shit fanboy/shill
>>341720935
which many do for the exact reason you dislike BB combat. That's why reason dexterity carries a stigma. Although I agree that BB kind of encourages it more, R1 spamming is present in every game.
>>341722297
chalice dungeons are shit
>randomize dungeons!
>look exactly the same , underground shitty zone with the same 4 different rooms
>the neckbeard FEDORA choice of Souls games
>>341722513
>tfw shitposting like bb had will never happen again
>tfw gg killed this board
feels bad
>>341722297
>lel
It was fun for maybe one or two chalices. Then the rooms started getting really repetitive early on. I saw a few configurations that actually tripped me up for a bit later on, but then I just got a grasp on how every common room works and the limitations of it are, which makes it just a chore to play through. Since it always is the same kind of rooms, and since it has no continuity at all with chalice dungeons being isolated from each other, it doesn't hold my interest the same as exploring the actual areas in the game. Chalice dungeons have no interesting items in it, so exploration of it is pointless.
It's just an underwhelming experience compared to the rest of the game. I just can't bring myself to play through the last few chalices I have left to at least fight the bosses.
>>341718815
it's the bells. the bells made the game complete
>>341721971
>really short
>less bosses than any game in the series
>way too bottom-heavy, feels like the game is practically over after Rom
>no new NPCs after Rom and all the NPC quests fizzle out immediately afterwards
>not enough kin enemies and too many beasts
>chalice dungeons are a load of shit and the time spent on them could have been used expanding the actual game
That's about it for my complaints. Still probably my favorite in the series though.
>>341723285
Oh yeah one more.
>upgrading weapons takes forever in a game where every weapon is unique and makes you want to try everything
>>341723136
Well thats you mate I had fun with chalice.
>>341722578
I honestly cant comment because I personally didn't have any charge attacks that gave me as much trouble as you mention. Probably because I unlocked or was overleveled or something.
>Honestly, disengaging the lock in BB is unintuitive straight up by the fact that you get a roll instead of the step dodge.
I gotta disagree. It's a trade off. The roll has more distance and i-frames while the step has more speed.
>>341718815
Everything except chalice dungeons and build diversity.
>>341720657
They didn't see through it, they just went in and slashed away. It's a metaphor for blind rage.
>>341723585
I can't find anything on the amount of iframes for dodges in general, do you have a link for that perhaps?
Also, nice thing to know, sadly something that isn't presented to the player as an actual thing as far as I can remember.
man i just beat orphan of kosm.
shit took me like trying twice a day, three times a week for two weeks.
i feel like a scrub for using so many parries and backstabs though, at least the final form is harder to cheese.
Miyazaki + Sony tbqh
they did it once with Demon's, and they did it again with BB
It was the game Miyazaki wanted to make, not a game he had to make.
>>341722682
wait, all chalices don't use the same rooms the first one uses, right?
>>341723895
not really, it just always felt like the timing was more forgiving with the roll in my experience. could be in my head though.
>>341724379
as far as i got , at least the first few chalices of each (loran/ist/whatever others)
and the whole pthumerian one , are pretty mcuh the same
>underground zone that looks identical one to another
when i was done with the trophy i didn't care anymore since i was bored of the same underground shit zone over and over and over and over
>>341724479
Fair enough, I was hoping there was actual stats for it. Then again, if it were true, how the fuck that be known to anyone that didn't actually try it is beyond me. At least to me, the quickstep seemed like a straight upgrade to the roll as far as I could understand it, so I never bothered with regular rolling for the most part.
>>341719462
>general being dead
lol you ever been to it?
Why would she give birth to a mutant child? Can someone explain this?
>>341725358
I've bumped it twice while it was on page 10 today.
>>341725584
its not alive all the time, or thats what i noticed when i was visiting it
dunno about you i rather play than post here when i'm having fun
>>341725532
Impregnated by Oedon, as the Great Ones wants babbies.
>>341718815
>outsold by splatoon
>barley a million units moved with a user base of 40 plus
>forgotten as soon as souls 3 came
nothing went right
>>341725532
She is related to the vilebloods so she has forbidden blood
Oedon impregnates women with forbidden blood, so her and the fake yosefka
>>341725651
I usually check the general during the long-ass load times.
Why doesn't the game give me enough Vermin in single-player for Valtr's Helmet? I know I can just kill him, but muh lore.
I can never find anyone trying to summon people either.
>>341725651
Its alright as far as /vg/ goes but its slowly declining. It relies a lot on American hours though so it's pretty ded atm.If a sequel or something BB related isn't announced at TGS, it'll wind up like /acg/
>>341725532
When you kill Rom and the veil holding back the bloodmoon is released a Great One puts a child in her
>>341725979
because the whole point of vermin is co op
The weapons were all fun to use. The world and characters had good design. Good blood and cloth effects. Build variety went poorly, especially pre-TOH. I feel like there was not enough magic or hunter tools. Molotovs should have been stronger and been an infinite use item that used quicksilver bullets. There should have been other tools as well that were non-magical items fulfilling the role of a magic. Fire and bolt paper should have had some permanent workshop made equivalent to the arcane shell. I think if it just had a lot more hunter tools that suit different playstyles I would have been a lot happier with it but I did still enjoy the game quite a bit.
>>341725773
>Splatoon
>lower metacritic than Fallout 4
>using sales as an argument
As for "forgotten", I see more Bloodborne threads than XCX, Splatoon, Witcher, MGS etc.
>>341725773
must not fall for bait....
>>341720896
NEVER EVER!
>>341726669
>Fire and Bolt paper should have had some permanent workshop made equivalent
You mean elemental gems?
>>341726726
>using sales as an argument
broke ass nigga detected
stay mad hoe
>>341724379
They're all the same, just different color schemes and one or two unique rooms each.
>>341727050
No. That is not the same at all. To compare with the Souls games for similarity it's like taking a +10 zweihander and casting sunlight blade on it. With proper stats for scaling it will be more powerful than a zweihander infused for innate lightning. And just like the souls games a weapon you have made to be innately elemental cannot be buffed.
>>341727225
Did you do the Fromsoftware created dungeons or the procedural ones? Honestly I thought chalices were mostly shit too. I had to do it just for the powerful gems and to platinum it. But i discovered there are more unique rooms/enemies/bosses/items in the procedural chalices compared to the developer ones. Also the layout of the rooms/enemies in the procedurals could be really fun and surprising. Especially when you used additional rituals sometimes.
>>341727723
I've done both, he was just asking about the way they look. They all look just about the same. Loran just has some sandy winds and lightning, Isz has some blue.
>>341727098
I'll bite. f you're going to use sales as an argument at least get your facts straight. It sold over 2 million as of september of last year. The last time Sony released sales records. Wouldn't be surprised if it was around 3 million now. Not like it matters.
>>341726669
God damn there is always 1 retard in these threads complaining about arcane when it's the most complex magic in the series
so what's the deal with JAPANstudio and hub worlds
>>341728016
Careful not to hurt yourself with those mental gymnastics. There is no complexity to the magic. None whatsoever. They are items with stat requirements and scaling. You put them in a slot and use them like any other item. That's it. That's all it is. The others had more complex magic. Those at least required different catalysts for sorceries, miracles, and pyromancies plus attunement. It's not much but it's more complex than Bloodborne. I don't know where such blindness comes from. If someone truly enjoys a game and has spent a good deal of time with it they should be able to recognize its flaws.
Bloodborne 1 is the 3D castlevania and DMC1-2 I've wanted for years.
Don't really much care for Souls, but Bloodborne pushed all the right buttons for me. Truly a modern classic and still the only must-have game on PS4.
