I wanna get this game, but I don't know if it's worth it to be honest. Kinda turned off by the monthly sub as well.
>>341685140
Its fun.
As some one who played nothing but WoW and other MMOs to just stop playing it this one takes the cake
Everything about it besides 2.5 GCD is great.
>>341685301
>Everything about it besides 2.5 GCD is great.
Would you recommend it as my first MMO?
And what system do you think is the best to play it on?
>>341685140
What's your email address? I'll send you a copy fo free
Piss off. /v/ should stop playing this game. The community is toxic enough as is without you fucking retards.
>>341685742
PC, though PS4 works fine. However, do not under any circumstances play on PS3. You will be in for a bad time. And considering that they announced plans to increase inventory space for the next expansion, that pretty much confirms that they'll be dropping PS3 support for 4.0.
>>341685742
PS4 player here. I'd probably recommend PC, but with a controller. I just got a new PC that isn't a toaster, and I am tempted to get that version one of these days.
>>341685891
Oh shit are you serious? It's:
[email protected]
Thank you so much anon-kun <33333333
>>341685936
Sadly, it's still one of the better ones except for nearly dead games like LoTRO, TSW, and STO.
It's got good aesthetics overall, pleasant soundtrack and a comfy story that gradually gets better as it goes.
Sidequests are a gamble, most are pretty dull but then you get a rare few that are actually really fucking good but since you may just be clicking away as usual you'll skip right past them.
Gameplay-wise, it starts out simple and gets complex towards the end. Complex =/= difficult, the only difficulty really is finding people who can match your skill level as the community is truly filled with drooling, mostly pleasant mind you, idiots.
Avoid Balmug.
Not OP.
Do I actually need to interact with other players, or can I solo just about anything worthwhile?
I don't want to team up with some random cunt who can't stop spouting memes and faggotry.
>>341685140
It's an MMO. Understand that this means every other aspect of the gameplay is not as good as it could have been if it wasn't an MMO. This includes gameplay, graphics, storytelling, etc.
If you want to play an MMO and you understand what sacrifices are made in MMOs then FFXIV is really good. If you don't want to play an MMO, then you'd be better off playing something else.
>>341686625
Balmung is fine. Just avoid /vg/ and the Quicksand.
That said, Balmung is already overcrowded and really doesn't need any more people. Unless you're actually interested in RP (actual RP, not text fucking), do everyone a favor and play somewhere else.
Who else got and used their maid glamor code emailed today?I'd post screencaps but I'm not subbed at the moment.
>>341685140
It's a theme park MMO but it's relatively well done.
Oh yeah that also brings up the question, what server should I play on? I kinda want to be on one with the highest population even though I'm pretty antisocial. Doesn't make sense I know but idc
And is having alts good? I wanted to have a dps and a healer on one account. What would be good race combos for them? And is being a dps frowned upon since there's so many?
Sorry for all of the questions lol
>>341686934
>Unless you're actually interested in RP (actual RP, not text fucking)
If you're interested in actual RP you'd best stay off Balmung.
>>341687082
Alts make no sense in FFXIV. Every character can be every class, though each one needs to be leveled individually.
Race choice doesn't really matter, it's all visual.
>>341686501
Sent ;^)
>>341687082
Avoid alts, you can do literally everything with a single character. DPSes suffer from longer queues. Races impact so very little on stats you're much better off picking one you really like.
Leviathan is breddy gud from personal experience. I barely interact with people and all my interactions have been civil and pleasant and people seem focused on playing the game instead of fucking about.
>>341687082
You're honestly better off rolling on a mid-populated server like Excalibur, Hyperion, or Sargatanas. Only if you really get into the game and decide later on that you really want to try endgame raiding should you maybe consider transferring if necessary.
>>341687347
Thank you so much once again! I really can't say enough how much I appreciate it <3
>>341687287
Yeah that's the thing though, I kinda wanted a qt cat grill and a male character
>>341687575
If you have a second character then you need to go through the entire main story quest again. The game is really intended for you to only have one character, it's like playing a single player game.
>>341687575
>>341687650
Also, leveling a second class on one character is made easier because you get a huge exp bonus (I believe it's 2x up to level 50). Making a new character will lose this bonus.
>>341687650
Thanks!
>>341687492
How easy is it to transfer?
>>341687125
There's plenty of great RP to be found in FC's around Balmung. You'd know if you took the time to pull whatever /xivg/ ebin's girlcock you're sucking out of your mouth and look.
>>341687082
I played on Cactuar before transferring to Balmung.
Balmung is much more alive. It has this weird reputation as ERP hell thanks to /xivg/ but it's really cool seeing huge groups of players in every location doing stuff.
For instance Uldah is completely dead on Cactuar but on Balmung it's this crowded capital city.
Costa Del Sol is little more than a dead quest hub pitstop you stop off at on your MSQ, but on Balmung there's almost always little events going on there.
>>341687287
Well, having an alt does give some bonus. You can specialize in 6 crafts, you can gather from hidden nodes twice if you time it properly, and you don't have to worry as much with weekly lockouts and which class to gear first.
Also they don't delete your character after you haven't subbed for a while right?
One last question, what classes are everyone's favorite to play as?
I'm thinking about going SCH but I might roll BLM or WHM
>>341687575
Although it's not the same, if you wanted to you could have one of your retainers be the character you had in mind you didn't play as. Like you could play as a qt catgirl and have a manly servant off doing errands or selling items on the market for you, or you could have the reverse. It's up to you. I'm not sure if that satisfies your itch but it does for me.
>>341688085
MMOs tend not to delete characters in general, hell my Runescape account is still around. I doubt FFXIV is any different.
I want to contribute to the group, should I play a Dragoon, Bard, Machinist or Ninja? I heard all of them have their own things they add to a group.
>>341688141
That sounds like a great idea!
I appreciate it :]
>>341688085
They don't delete your character, but your retainers (servants) will become inactive from selling your shit on the market and you'll lose your house and the land it's on after a period of time.
>>341688085
>BLM
Don't do that.
SCH is the most fun Healer in the game probably so I'd go with that. You'll have to level up a DPS class first (Arcanist) though + reach level 15 with Conjurer, the base version of WHM.
Also I'm a liar, another question, how easy is it to become a trap in this game?
It's shit, that's the sale pitch. 300k retards currently love eating shit and 5 million ate shit at one point.
>>341688013
Haha yeah, 'great' RP. A bunch of teens trying to out-edge each other, playing 'mercs' or pirates or thieves. About the only decent idea I've even seen there is a circus, and after going to see them once they're -fucking awful-.
God and everyone just stands around talking about shit instead of doing anything. No wonder I quit trying to find RP years ago.
>>341688353
That's fine! What's wrong with African-American Mages btw?
>>341685140
It's mediocre, but what can you expect from an MMO I guess.
>>341686653
Not really. Running dungeons/trials/raids and all that you have to do it with other people. Most won't talk to you though outside of saying hello, thank you, and god fucking damn it when they die. FFXIV communiy is very silent outside of new content. If the party wipes someone might speak up about mechanics.
>>341685140
You can DPS as a Healer for when your brain dead team mates decide to fuck off in a corner and jerk it
>>341688490
They're EXTREMELY boring throughout and only get mildly interesting at max levels.
They deal a fuckton of damage though, so if you don't mind pressing the same three keys over and over just to see big numbers on your screen then go for it.
>>341688684
Okay, I might consider it when I have the time. Lots of JRPGs coming out in the latter half of this year/early 2017 though, so I don't think I'll really have time for it.
Does it actually feel like FF?
>>341688245
Please Respond
>>341688057
That sounds fun as fuck.
I was interested in transferring there but I think I'll finally go for it now.
Does the server need to be open to transfer your character?
How good is AST?
>>341688768
>implying
BLM's level 60 rotation is exponentially more interesting than the level 50 rotation.
>>341686965
Got mine the day they were available
>>341689418
No, it feels like the generic shit WoW clone it is.
>>341685140
there is a fucking trial for it,why dont you faggots ever bother to look that up
>>341689418
Thats not a good thing at all anon, game really does feel like a single player mmo.
>>341689430
Gear up both Bard and Machinist and be a switch hitter for your group
>>341690242
switch hitter?
>>341690172
And you can go to level 35 now too. No reason to not try that first to save yourself 2 weeks.
Btw peeps, what class would you say is the most fun? Im currently playing WAR but I think tanking is kind of a braindead job, I kind of want to switch to a dps role, already played healer and its alot of stress and not in a good way.
>>341690019
How did you get that outfit?!?
>>341690172
You must be fun at parties c;
Can you make money off Fisher and if so, how?
>>341690364
You can fill either role depending on what is needed for the particular dungeon/raid/hunt/whatever.
I used to play in what was known as a hardcore raiding FC and it was pretty much required to be proficient in two or more classes. It's not particularly hard either, and it makes you a valuable asset.
>>341690513
i'm very fun at parties,i also know how to look up info for games im interested too you large faggot
also that outfit is available via a amazon promo where you have to spend at least 20 bucks on certain items
>>341690478
There's also going to be deep dungeon in the next patch, where you can go all the way up to level 60 in
>>341690506
i main ninja and i've thought it was fun HW made it better though it's not something to play if you have shit internet
Best MMO I ever played. I'm on Hiatus right now, but I want to play it every day. Has a little something for everyone, From casual as fuck dressing up to hardcore endgame raiding. Just find people interested in what you are.
>>341690506
Go with one of the melee DPS. Don't mess with the casters or at range if you don't like healing.
>>341690717
Thanks :D
That's pretty dumb though that you pay for a game, then pay for a monthly subscription, then you have to pay for clothes/certain items :/
>>341690506
what level are you
war is fun as fuck
>>341690990
the promo here is a lot better than what they had to do in japan,also stop emoting you shit posting faggot
>>341685140
It's only fun if you have friends to play.
Combat is absolute garbage and completely out of date shit.
Visuals are really fucking good.
Character customization is trash.
Stories are really fucking good.
>>341691106
I think anon-kun might have a crush on me >///<
I don't know how to deal with tsunderes....
>>341685140
If you like autistic crafting as 90% of your endgame, it's the game for you.
>>341691413
>>341691423
2.X crafting was fine. 3.X makes me want to kill myself.
Make sure when you install you go to the bahamut server. You faggots will fit right in there.
>>341690858
Oh man ninja looks way to much fun, problem is im a Roe and i think it would look kind of dumb with my race.
>>341690957
I did like healing, it was just stressful though, mages do bore me to tears, I was actualling thinking about MCH, would go with monk but half of their skills look like extremely over the top anime shit to me. DRG looks cool as fuck but lancer is incredibly boring at low lvls, I wish i could play ninja but same reason as above.
>>341691051
Yeah i heard, im 51, so I have yet to unlock dps stance or feel cleave, I hear once you get that you never want to play anything else.
>>341685140
As far as MMOs goes, it's probably the highest quality and best one on the market right now.
But it's still a MMO so it's still not actually a good game.
>tfw want to get back into it becuase I genuinely love Final Fantasy and it's lore
>don't feel like buying an expansion and paying for a month
If there was a deal for a expansion and a month, I'd do it but ehhhh.
>>341685140
You could definitely get a couple months play out of FFXIV. It just doesn't keep my attention like it did the first few weeks. Maybe I'm spoiled by FFXI, but it just doesn't grab me and hold me in that world. Endgame is also a snoozefest.
>>341688760
More like:
>Actual Healer
"First time healing and first time here but I watched a guide"
*AFK FOLLOW WITH BUTTERFLY*
>>341691701
>>341691595
It's a meme you dips
And to everyone I appreciate the help!
>Decide to do leveling roulette as a tank for once
>Swap over to DRK and queue up
>Halfway to the first boss I begin to realize
>I haven't tanked in 3 months
>I haven't done the Library in 6 months
>The Library is a level 59 dungeon
>I powerleveled my DRK
>Half my gear is vendor greys
I have become the cancer and I am so, so sorry.
>>341691051
tfw I'm one of the faggots that find pld more fun than war
Leveling for Mercy Stroke was a chore
People keep telling me not to pull as a healer in low level dungeons even though I can keep anyone alive and literally nothing in them is threatening.
Am I being a dick or something, the tanks are always just so slow to do anything
Anyone play SMN? What are your hotkeys?
>>341692512
Ignore the retard tanks and keep pulling until they get the message to hurry the fuck up, you're correct, nothing in 4 mans hits for damage worth being afraid of.
I do it on NIN all the time and can tank just fine at 60.
You'll find decent tanks that keep a brisk pace eventually, but they're kinda rare.
>>341692512
It's only really a problem if people start dying.
Slow tanks can fuck right off. But if people start dying because you pulled early, you're entirely responsible.
>tfw love the FF aesthetic and the artstyle of the game
>want to get back into it
>know I will hate the game 2 weeks intp my resub
>rolled on a dead server anyway
I've been hopping from MMO to MMO lately with no luck. The only MMO with combat I liked is wildstar but the healer queues are like 2-3 hours long for the first few dungeons. I would maybe like the game if I rolled on a lively server but I rather suck 10 dicks than start over and get to HW.
What do?
>>341693452
switch servers, playing an mmo alone is the dumbest thing you can do
>>341692512
>Tank pulls 3 groups
>It's sastasha
>We have literally no one that can do AoE damage
>I can't even contribute anymore because this fuckhole is taking so much fucking damage
>>341689937
EN>LL
Followed by
F3>F4>F4>F1>F4>B3>B4 on repeat isn't super interesting.
>>341693723
>3 F4s
>buffs before F3
>hardcasting your first F3
jesus fuck
don't tell people to do that please
>>341693723
>that rotation
Wow are you one of those BLM that actually manages to do under 1k dps?
You almost never run out of things to do but you will burn out of the formula fast.
Is there anyway to get the game for reduced price? I'm really enjoying my trial time, but WoW has WoD rolled in now and I have the battlechest which I picked up for 5 bucks. It seems pretty steep to dump 60 into FFxiv rather than just sub wow and plya with a friend who alreayd plays.
>>341692512
>>341693045
It's definitely rude as shit and absolutely grounds to kick you, doesn't really matter how shit the tank is
>>341692252
I got it to 60 recently. Not to bad at max but God damn was it a snooze fest to level. I did actually almost fall asleep doing leveling roulette a few times after getting off work.
>>341693452
Suck those 10 dicks to get the money for a transfer
>>341694042
Slow tank detected
Sorry you lose your special snowflake status when we do everything without you :^(I votekick retards like you anyway
>>341694321
Nah I always pull until the healer starts crying
But if you're making a tanks job harder by pulling, and if he's an already bad tank you're just making a bad run even shittier
>Expecting healers to DPS
How about just pulling more you fucking shit? I ain't there to kill the monsters for you.
>>341694028
it's on sale on amazon for 20 bucks
>>341693548
>>341694159
I can pay for the transfer or play a lesser geared character on a slightly more populated server (ultros). But to me everything in this game is uninteresting but the pve content so I'm still struggling to justify the money. I wish I could stop this itch or if I can find another MMO as good.
Is ultros still worth it or was it a meme gaffag and /vg/ server
>>341695234
>I wish I could stop this itch
I wish I could too. I keep in subscribing with the intent of waiting until the next expansion to come back but I keep resub bing with each major patch and get sick of it within the first week. All I've done these past two weeks arearlier mini cactpot, A8, and then the new instances once and the moogle dailies.
>>341696043
I stopped with my highest character being a 58 BLM. Should I resub just to get to endgame and get to current? Most people get tired endgame but I was not even 60.
>>341695234
I know how you feel anon, as I used to think like that too, then I realized playing casually with a bunch of friends makes it a lot more manageable...
Not saying you should play 4 or more hours each day, get an objective inside, like leveling a crafter, working on the relic, getting a mount or an achivement... things like short term objectives... and maybe you could enjoy again
>>341696363
I really doubt end game stuff will keep you interested if you didn't even make it to 60.
>>341696649
You're right.
And deep down I knew this but I keep asking around hoping that its worth it. I may just youtube the story or something. Its just when I see the fights especially the new ones that recently came out the game looks great and I want to play the game again.
>>341697346
Given you couldn't get to 60, the work it would take to get to those cool fights would probably be too much.
>>341697458
I wouldn't call tedious tasks "work" but it would be more than I would want to deal with. I heard many players complain about the ilvl grind for the new content.
OP is false flagging and probably owns the game next time just say
>2016
>still no raid roulette
You'll get the same amount of replies
>>341697752
Kinda feel like you man, I enjoy the game, what I dont enjoy though is the fact that every single dungeon and trial is a complete faceroll that doesnt last more than 5 minutes with lvl 60 people fully geared, I enjoy the story, but I really wanna hit endgame so content can be challenging, thats literally all the keeps me going. Im about to enter HW so we will see how things turn out.
>>341698281
A XIV thread is a XIV thread, what's it matter how it's started? They all pretty much end up the same anyway.
>>341698509
Also console players need to be put in separate servers, I dont wanna play an mmo with some 13 year old casual mute fucker.
>>341698705
>Playing a FF game on PC
WoWfugee spotted
>>341698509
don't be like me and stop right at the end keep going and tell me what it's like ;_;
>>341699148
You're not missing much t.b.h fampai
>>341698970
I have never played WoW, I just wanna play an MMO with people that can actually speak, I suspect half the playerbase consists of ps3 players since no one ever seems to speak.
>>341699527
people talk, just in contained linkshells and fc's
>>341699527
That's just how the game os, most people are probably actually talking but not on any public channels.
Convince me why XIV is better than WoW?
>>341700430
Convince me that convincing you matters at all.
>>341700554
I could be your friend
>>341700623
That's not very convincing.
Which job in this game do you wish had better players?
>>341685140
its a wow clone mmo with minor graphical and storytelling improvements. The game also stole a concept from Rift, where random zone events give way more exp than straight grinding.
>>341701406
Warhammer made those events, not Rift.
>>341687347
>wishes I had asked an anon for the game
>>341701237
All of them. Though being on a JP data center, most people are usually adequate.
>>341701237
botanist
>He doesn't AOE on 3+ mobs
What Job does everyone main?
>>341690676
Mogpom (used for INT dissolvents, appears in one spot in churning mists with no other fishes, free money)
Pipira Pira (popular food)
Dravanian bass (reduces into aether sand and water clusters, appears in the same spot and time as Pipira Pira, catch at night in the forelands village when the weather is bad)
>>341698970
You realize every numbered FF game is playable on PC
>>341685140
It can be fun but you have to know what you're getting into. You spend tons of time grinding to get the top gear, then a new patch comes out and all of that gear is obsolete and now you're grinding for new gear, then a new patch comes out. . . ad nauseam.
Also the game is just kind of ugly, the art design and the graphics both are just pretty underwhelming, not that it matters that much but just be prepared to be looking at an ugly game a lot.
I wish this game had more merch other than overpriced plushies
a magitek mount figure would be fucking awesome to have
>>341704353
>the art design and the graphics both are just pretty underwhelming, not that it matters that much but just be prepared to be looking at an ugly game a lot.
You got absolutely shit taste
>>341704381
I really wanted those Soundtrack CDs but
>BD
Fuck that shit.
>>341704459
Whatever, if you actually think the game looks good then that's great for you I guess. I can't think of any other current mmo that looks as ugly. Mor Dhona was probably the ugliest area I've ever seen in a game, at least that's not the hub anymore.
>>341704695
Why's that a problem? You can rip them with a PS3 or PS4 if you don't have a BD drive on your PC.
2 months in, i'm fucking hooked.
unfortunately my sub ran out last night
>>341691963
I'd wager there's a pretty good chance Heavensward will get a price drop in the upcoming Steam summer sale. It already got a 50% discount before.
>>341705917
Heads up with this. Steam and non steam versions of the game and expac aren't compatible. If you bought the base game on steam you gave to get the expansion on there as well.
>>341703554
>AoE as DRG
>Do fuck all damage
>All TP gone and Inspiration used after 10 seconds of AoEing
Why is Dragonfire Dive so horrible
So where do we go from here? Ala Mhigan? Garlemald?
Did YoshiPoop mentioned anything lately?
Anyone cinsidering playing this know its a beautiful game with lots of time filling side stuff but THERE IS NO CONTENT. Since the game launched they have been horrible at adding actual gameplay content. Otherwise oyu grind the same small amount of dungeons for weekly token cap and wait. Very much a social game about doing fun side things, do not play if you are looking for good raiding or PvP.
>>341706147
It's 220% Alahu Mhingo. I'd bet money on it. It's way too early in the plot for Garlemald, we're getting teases of AM for some time now with Yda and Papalymo and it's very close to some of the already playable areas.
>Inb4 Domafags start talking shit
I'd love to go to Doma as much as you but visiting a pile of rubble with no people doesn't seem a lot of fun honestly
>>341706147
It had better be Ala Mhigo, if it's Garlemald I'm done with this game for good, had plenty enough of the generic evil star wars empire.
>>341706150
I agree with this for the most part but i'd say that the hardcore Raiding for this game is very good, it's just that there's not a lot of it. Learning Alexander Savage with friends can be fun despite being absurdly difficult.
Saw someone on the mini airship mount for the first time today. Was disappointed that they were just standing on it with their arms crossed. Was hoping they'd be sitting on it sort of like the bomb palanquin but in a fancy throne pose. Was a midlander female.
as someone who's never played mmo's this game was extremely disappointing. the combat is severely lacking.
>>341706503
Protip Ala Mihgo is fucking ruled by the Garleans. The whole place has been turned into a magitech dystopia.
>Finished Gnath tribe today
>Stickpeddler isn't selling the Gnath armor
Kongamato whistle is there though.
Did I do something wrong?
Also why is everyone so retarded in Nidhogg? I just resubbed so I haven't done Seph/Thordan EX, but I thought Niddy was supposed to be the easiest of the three. It's been a solid week of wipes from retards bungling mechanics or failing DPS checks, and this is in """""""clear"""""" parties.
>>341708409
You have to completely max them out, there's another bar you have to fill.
>>341708585
>8 more days of dailies
Oh, I see; I missed that. Thanks.
But I'm not leveling any more combat classes so fuck it.
>>341706150
>Social game
I have around 7 days of playtime, been playing for about 3-4 weeks, I have talked to at most, 5 people in the entire game beside the occasional hello at the start of a dungeon or trial.
>>341709671
I got into my current FC just by waving to someone when we both ran up to the same aetherite and having little PM chat and then sending a friend request, and I'm terrible at being social.
You just have to be the tiniest bit outgoing to let people know you exist and you'll get invited to linkshells and casual FCs.
>>341709671
Just make a PF saying you want in a casual or social FC or linkshell. Keep bouncing around until you get one that has people who actually talk and does content.
>>341685140
>Sell me FFXIV
Pompadours.
>>341710465
Cats are for _____
>Yoshida is considering adding level skipping
>Another thing we’re debating internally is whether or not to have something like World of Warcraft’s jumping potion that would work with both levels an story. The Chinese version actually has something similar to this already. I’m trying to decide if something like this should be timed with 4.0.
http://gamerescape.com/2016/06/17/e3-2016-interview-with-naoki-yoshida/
Why do WoWfags ruin everything in this, game? Why is Yoshida WoWfugee personified?
>>341712636
So that pretty much means it's coming anyway.
Let's see how will official forum defend this.
>>341712636
The way I understand it he looked to WoW for inspiration while working on ARR. No surprise he's straight up copying things it does.
>>341686965
I preordered World of Final Fantasy. Looks fun.
>>341712914
They're not actually. I think even the OF is getting sick of how Yoshida is handling this game. China has this level up option but they pay hourly I hear so its understandable. Yoshida's going back on his statements about not wanting XIV to be P2W.
>>341713504
The slippery slope in Mogstation is really real.
First it was just services regarding the character.
Then we get some minor exclusives shit like some dumb dyes.
After that came items from old events.
Now the store is full of exclusive shits siphoning even more money from faggots, not to mention those fucking recolor mounts.
>>341685140
>not openworld.
>not free
>boring.
Only saving points are the music, graphics and chocobos. Try the trial. Those 14 days are enough to get what you want from it.
>>341685140
it is complete trash, don't bother
>>341707907
>dystopia
That's debatable. Rhitahtyn sas Arvina stated that Ala Mhigo was a corrupt shithole until the Garleans cleaned everything up.
Hopefully this means that the Ala Mhigan populace is divided on the Garleans, with the majority embracing them while those that cry oppression were just the corrupt assholes to begin with.
>>341713727
>not to mention those fucking recolor mounts
But now I don't have to spend 5 million Gil on a zu horn! Thank you Yoshida!
>>341714162
t.blizzard
>>341714624
Yes, the Garlean officer says the Garleans made everything so much better.
>>341714797
What I'm trying to say is that it will be a lot more interesting to see the Ala Mhigans that are still in Ala Mhigo to be divided on the Garleans, rather than everyone crying for liberation.
>>341714638
>those people on OF that try so hard to spite other players who don't own them
And those people only ever use their shitty mount once before forgetting about it.
>>341685140
Then don't play it if the sub turns you off
The sub doesn't do anything to curb gold sellers save for the ultra populated servers, such as Balmung, because you can't get on those servers without using a server transfer because the servers are too crowded and are never open, but the transfer fee results in there being literally zero gold sellers on the server
Gold sellers EVERYWHERE is a huge problem with the game, you will literally get 2-3 whispers every five minutes, its really fucking annoying
The only thing about ff14 is that it's nothing new, but it does what other theme park mmos do, but it perfects it, they clearly have a longterm plan for the game when they implement features, they look for permanent fixes to problems, and they give you many paths to what you want instead of just 1
It also tries to build on having a community, which is nice and rare, even if its kind of oxymoron at times, at least they try
They also just know how to have fun without making everything revolve around combat at all times, which is huge for me, the fact that you can just be a gatherer/crafter and that's all you have to do is fucking amazing
FF14 has just so many great ideas in and the way they are implemented are in such a way that they don't become "outdated and forgotten" the way they do in other mmos when an expansion comes out
Overall just well designed, it feels like the developers give a shit when they add things or change things, you don't feel like there's an endless rock, paper, scissors among class balance like in other mmos, when they fix things they just fix them
The only legitimate problems I find with the game are:
1) No chat bubbles
2) To many abilities in PvP, I have fucking 36 keybinds on my white mage and still ran out of buttons
The 2.5 second gcd isn't a thing when you actually play the game, there's so many instant abilities and complex rotations with them
>>341714797
Ala Mhigo are a bunch of stupid sand eaters who fucked themselves several times over before the Garleans even got there. Trying to annex the Twelveswood and letting a mad puppet dismantle the Order of Rhalgr? Their entire government collapsed into a flurry of backstabbing before the Garleans attacked. They deserve everything they got.
>>341714797
Context motherfucker.
Rhitatyn is a Roegaedyn, not a pureblood Garlean. He's someone who earned his station through loyalty and hard work not nepotism. He's basically in the same situation as Rabauhn.
On that basis he has a (somewhat) legitimate platform from which to make the argument that Garlean colonisation might be better for territories with extant civil war and anarchy.
>>341716124
>Context motherfucker.
>Rhitatyn is a Roegaedyn, not a pureblood Garlean. He's someone who earned his station through loyalty and hard work not nepotism. He's basically in the same situation as Rabauhn.
It was also established that Gaius was slightly less of a dick than the average legatus and that kind of acceptance of other races isn't common in Garlemald.
It's a game with a LOT of stuff to do.
Your first class will likely take 60-80 hours to level to max, and a single character can play every single class/job in the game. In fact, since every job can use cross-class skills from two other classes, your secondary class requirement for your job usually has higher-level skills that are useful for your main job. With that in mind, it takes closer to 80 than 60 hours, especially if you actually go through the story stuff.
After that, there's gathering classes, crafting classes, raids, EX trials, Aquapolis (random enemies with a 50/50 shot of moving to the next floor for better rewards) Deep Dungeon (sorta randomized dungeons, kind of like Warframe's tilesets or roguelike rooms as I understand), hunts, Anima weapons, housing, glamour collecting, beast tribe quests, pony farming, chocobo racing/breeding, Triple Triad (in-game CCG) collection, Lords of Verminion (MOBA-like minigame)
There's literally hundreds- if not thousands- of hours of stuff to do in this game, but the problem is that a lot of it's as deep as a puddle. Once you figure out your class rotation/healing abilities/enmity generators, there's not much else on the table combat-wise. Bosses range from tank n' spank on easier stuff to "Savage" difficulty which mostly consists of DPS checks and DDR dodging mechanic damage.
Do you have friends who play this game, or do you have an easy time making friends? If so, get this game, join an active FC, and have fun. Having a decent conversation to distract you from how grindy it can get is a godsend.
More of a lone-wolf type? Give it a pass, especially since the game doesn't do that great of a job explaining technical things that are required for late-game stuff.
>>341716410
>Your first class will likely take 60-80 hours to level to max
Try double that.
I leveled an alt recently, and went about it efficiently. Took ~150 hours. Add a bunch extra for people unfamiliar with the world, looking for sidequest locations and shit.
>>341716943
150 hours is a bit too much. An alt I leveled a couple of weeks ago took 100 hours overall from 0 to 60. EXP gains have improved considerably. But I skipped pretty much everything that could be skipped so there's that. A new player could easily take 200 hours before they even finish the Lv60 quest "Heavensward".
To be honest, it's not such a good thing.
MMOs are never as fun as single player adventure games
I got ironworks crafting earrings and a ring. How much gil can I look forward to wasting if I want to meld them?
>>341717767
t. antisocial dork
>>341688398
This!
>>341688398
>>341686625
Balmung is totally fine. I'm not even into RP but went there to be with my friends. I've been on Moggle before and Balmung is way better.
>People chatting with each others everywhere
>visit a tavern on Balmung and it will have tons of people discussing, not even necessarily RPing tho I think the RP nature of the server encourages people to talk to each others naturally.
>you can even explore you neighborhood at night and find parties or some kinds of events.
>basically the world feels more alive and I feel way less like playing a singleplayer MMO.
>>341717503
>But I skipped pretty much everything that could be skipped so there's that.
And there's your answer.
I leveled this alt to re-experience the story, reading all the quest dialogue/journal entries/item descriptions. That eats up a ton of time.
>>341716406
Still, what Rhitatyn says isn't something that should be disregarded.
>>341718212
Isn't the only way to play on Balmung to transfer a character there?
>>341718878
Probably not the only way but certainly the easiest.
>Leveling miner
>Lv53 quest, give me 10x HQ ore nuggets
>1%HQ rate
>Have to wait 4 minutes between mining attempts so I can pop HQ%+ skills
UGH
I've been here an hour and I still need two more.
>>341720741
>That pic
Fuck I loved running around in that top while I was leveling Culinarian.
>>341721126
That top and the BRD AF1 were great on a female roegadyn.
How is your mount hunt coming along?
>>341721674
>cash shop mounts
I hope this isn't your screenshot and if it is someone punches you in the dick soon.
>>341721859
I have plenty of disposable income okay
>>341685140
Play the trial and decide for yourself. Jesus.
>>341721950
i don't really try
The game is fun for 2-3 months until you realize that there's no enjoyable way of repeating the endgame content over and over and over
>>341721950
>supporting Yoshida having a cash shop
That's whats wrong nigger
should i resub? i want to play but at the same time it is a vert big time waster
>>341722725
also i havnt played in like 3-4 months
>>341685936
I literally hear someone use the term "toxic" to describe every community. In general, people just aren't that great.
>>341722802
Don't bother, same shit as always.
>>341721950
Make sure to pay for the character booster coming in 4.0
>>341723406
i didnt finish heavenward though got up tot lv 59 and didnt play pvp yet
>>341723758
Endgame is still the same tome grind and ex Primal or raidsavage for gear that'll be outdated next patch. As for PvP, I hope you like waiting ages for a match. Main story quest is decent I suppose.
>>341721674
>>341723758
You don't play ffxiv for pvp. That's only something you grind for rewards when bored.
You could pick almost any other mmo with pvp and it would be better.
>>341721674
Admittedly pitiful. Back when I was subbed I did try to get one of the birds, but I was left empty-handed after fighting Bismark like 120 times. I'll probably keep trying when I do resub though.
>>341717503
And this is why I hate the modern mmo player. All they want to do is rush to endgame and then complain about not having enough to do.
>tfw i started playing FFXIV a couple of days ago and came to know how fucking awful 99% of people are at this game
WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE PRESS BUTTONS IN TIME?! WHY CAN'T YOU PEOPLE MOVE AROUND THE DUNGEONS EFFICIENTLY?!
LIKE HOLY SHIT, THIS IS MY FIRST TIME PLAYING THIS MMORPG BUT I'M DOING SO MUCH FUCKING BETTER THAN YOU!
>>341726145
Welcome to Eorzea, enjoy your stay.
>>341726145
The hardest part in FFXIV is finding people at the same skill level as you.
>bird farm
>>341685140
It's super comfy from level 1-30, but it's boring if you're looking for something fast paced. After lvl 30 it becomes much harder and the writing gets significantly much better as well.
>>341720741
You could just buy em off the MB
>>341727756
>5000 gil each
>Only sold in stacks of 99
What do you think I am, made of money?
There's a reason I've leveling a gatherer.
PSA for aiming classes, the augmented torrent armguards are a 100% perfect colour match and 95% texture match for the dyeable dreadwyrm tabard we got in 3.3.
Really, they match so well they practically look like they come from the same set.
>>341685301
>>341685616
The thing is, you have Off Skills to do during the cooldown. That 2.5s cooldown is your breathing room to use buffs or stuns, and besides which you're frequently having to dodge attacks, position yourself, move around the environment, interact with things etc.
Not all fights are 10/10, but when they're good they're good, and you're always doing things, even if it's not spamming your rotation out. Take a look at this fight, especially around 2:38 onwards where Nidhogg goes full edgehogg and starts spamming down AOE indicators.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UbNpSfZnwC4
I can't speak for the other classes, but as a Tank I am usually having to dodge attacks on a near-constant basis whilst also pumping out my rotations.
>so much /aco/ type porn
>almost no doujins
>>>/d/6852967
Wtf Japan
>>341685140
It's fun, worth going through it once, quit and then comeback each new patch
>reinstalling but cant play untill tomorrow when i can fill up my load and go card to resub
why did i have to decide now to start playing agian
its complete trash and the community is already entirely bandwagon hoppers from Terag etc. no one from alpha/beta is left, no one from 1.x, no one from XI. it's an ERP playground for underaged shits.
>>341729672
> Playing on balmung
>>341729672
>no one from 1.x, no one from XI
Because nobody played those.
>its a tank runs off before buffs episode
>>341729672
I have been playing since closed beta when there was a glitch for accepting a quest and we all had to take turns
Friendly reminder that the Garleans have done literally nothing wrong and the uncivilized animal fucking forest hippies, greedy potatofucks and barabait pirates are all that's wrong with Hydaelyn.
>>341685140
As a newish player from late last year when the expansion hit, i really have to say it's very much worth it, especially now with the expansion and all it's patchs out. You basically have a game that is hundreds of hours long in content currently and it's likely only going to get better and better.
You don't have to worry about older content not being played by the player base even now, the development team added many roulettes and reward systems for players to go back to older content whenever possible. It's just all in all a fantastic game.
>>341731304
Garleans are going to be the original victims of some dread Primal or something and they just couldn't defend themselves without any magic.
Asides from being evil assholes, it's the only other explanation besides Ascians essentially telling them "Eorzea is full of BAD shit,"
So, someone asked Yoshida why he chose to give us FFX minions for the FanFest and he said we will have to wait until FanFest to know.
What could it mean?
>>341731304
>Actually made Ala Mhigo a better place after conquering it
>Will probably be retconned in 4.0
>>341731903
Tidus laugh emote on the cash shop.
>>341732002
But we don't even get a Tidus minion.
>chinks get a Flying Cloud mount and a Sun Wukong outfit
I fucking hate them
>>341732350
Chinks also subscribe by the hour, pay microtransactions out the ass and are only now getting 3.2
>>341725508
>And this is why I hate the modern mmo player. All they want to do is rush to endgame and then complain about not having enough to do.
Let's be fucking reasonable here, leveling quests are the most shallow shit in this game, and this game is pretty shallow to begin with. ARR MSQ is mostly trivial trash, and then you fight a couple primals. ARR 2.x is 100 quests of padding and setups for Heavensward. HW MSQ is pretty good but consists of way too many cutscenes and way too little gameplay. HW 3.x so far has been fairly straight and to the point though.
>>341731903
inb4 blitzball
>>341733087
Yeah I know it's justified but I'm still bummed.
Also games are usually heavily censored in China so they don't get all the content we get.
>>341721674
>>341721950
The only cash shop mount I bought was Nightmare and that was during the christmas sale.
who are the best 5 guilds or w.e. in this game and is this much competition for world first clears?
>>341733490
Don't you mean Sleipnir? Nightmare isn't on the cash shop.
>>341733686
There's only one W1 guild, Elysium on Gilgamesh, and everybody else is only pretending.
>>341688768
My only gripe with BLM from a healer point of view is that some of them literally will not avoid mechanics and take a huge hit and expect me to heal them, or outright die and plame me for not keeping them up. I get it, you set down ley lines, but you need to get out of the fire.
Typical shit BLM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJStjooGRvA
>>341685140
Is this the only MMO out today that has a mandatory monthly subscription? WoW and EvE lets you pay for gametime with in-game curency.
>ADS mount is one of, if not the best in the game
>locked behind 200+ hours of the worst PvP gameplay in history
Kill me.
Also how do you unlock the Moogle Hot Air balloon mount?
Was doing the sidequests from 3.3 last night, talk about boring and low effort
Even the Hildebrand one was finished in like 3 scenes
>play BLM
>see MCH babbies jacking off over their Wildfire numbers
>I get the same damage 5-6 times during my opener
It's even better now that they buffed the balls out of BRD this patch.
Any anon on EU Odin want to play together?
>>341690676
Catching fish needed to the quests is a good call, especially the raincallers for the level 40 quest (only show up in the waterfall in Gridania, and only when its raining, so its huge RNG if you are even playing when you can catch one), and the level 50 quest (forget which one, but its a double mooch, so most people are willing to pay to get it).
Also, a bit less money but good if you are grinding up levels, look at what the leveling guides recommend, especially for leve fish. I did the same thing for botanist as I did for fishing. For grinding culinarian, they recommend pea soup in one of the tiers for grinding, so I ground out jade peas for botanist, and put them up on the MB for 500 gil a piece in stacks of 25, sold out 10 stacks in 2 days. So for fishing, see what fish are used for leves, and sell them in stacks of Y x 5, where Y is the number needed for the turn in. For example, in the 40's, giant bass and crimson trout are leve fish, sold them in stacks of 9 for 1000 each, double price for stacks of HQ fish.
With this method, you won't get huge gains all at once, but smaller gains of multiple sales that will sell reliably.
Is FFXIV good if I like to gather and craft? It seems comfy from the videos I've seen.
>>341735732
The system is a huge time sink, but I think it's worth it. Well if you have any interest in earning in game money anyway.
>>341735732
Crafting has an end game all its own. A lot of people play it just for that.
>>341735870
>>341735894
Cool. Is the crafting and gathering process difficult or is it only time consuming?
>>341734493
FF11 still requires a monthly sub fee.
>>341735975
Time consuming, and money intensive if you are teleporting around to different zones constantly.
>>341735975
It can be difficult and seem complex if you are trying to figure it out for yourself since there are dozens of skills for each. Also there's a degree of RNG in that certain skills can fail when crafting or gathering
But there are rotations to optimize everything if you look it up
