how can the new spader-guy surpass this one?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Psdl5xRmrZ0
>>341626908
Undisputed best Spider-Man game. End your life if you disagree
>>341627817
nigga did you even play the other one?
monster ock > all others
This game is probably the only thing that (pleasantly) caught me off guard throughout 3 years of E3.
I need to dig through any and all interviews about this game.
>>341627817
We will never get a spiderman game as good as this one.
And its a fucking movie tie in game.
>>341626908
HEY!
>>341628035
Yes I did. It comes in second, a far far lower second place.
>>341626908
By using this as the theme music
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l1WtWRCTf1U
1. Ultimate Spiderman
2. Spiderman 2 PS2
3. Spiderman PS1
>>341626908
Neversoft's Spider-Man was so fucking cool.
May be dated now. But I loved the style and attitude this game had, writing and Spidey's VA was fantastic. Giving Spider-Man to the Tony Hawk guys was pretty genius.
>>341627817
>>341628324
>>341628523
I'M CALLIN' BAIT ON THIS ONE
>>341628126
let me break it down for you since I already have
>original story that doesn't tie into any other franchise
>it does take inspiration from many different sources
>has a name but they wont reveal it so it probably gives away something important
>game will feature an experienced spiderman that has been in the business for a few years
>as far as gameplay all they are saying is there is going to be a big emphasis on traversal and navigating the city, not only with how he swings but with the acrobatics he uses to move around
>combat system will also reflect the unique ways spiderman can move
>the game will play up peters intelligence as much as spidermans abilities
>the suit has something to do with this and there is a reason it looks the way it does
>it is as much a peter parker game as it is a spiderman game
>this is what its like when worlds collide
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zn33LLmwzeY
>spiderman was a secret character in that game
>tony hawk is the villain confirmed
>>341626908
By having a lot of fan service, a ton of unlockables, a good Spider-Man tier story, fun boss fights, a cool moveset an great voice acting.
It's already failed one of them.
>>341628523
circus in town?
>>341628987
Let me guess, you wanted Holland to voice act for him, didn't you?
>>341628267
Yes we will next year
>>341628747
The game is great but the swinging mechanics are not good
>Urgh! Get a breath mint!
>>341629082
Christopher Daniel Barnes and Josh Keaton are my go too Spider-Man VAs.
I really like spiderman, if I was going to get a tattoo it would be a spiderman tattoo, but getting a spiderman tattoo would be super gay so I never will :/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WQJg5fP0U8
>>341628920
>tfw no spiderman/persona game with peter parker in highschool
Acceptable spiderman games:
>Spiderman + Venom: Maximum Carnage
>Spider-Man PS1
>Spider-Man: Enter Electro
>Spider-Man 2 PS2
Rest is either shit, or just a regulat beat-em up with a spider-man coat on it, sometimes a shitty open world.
>>341629950
Oh and Ultimate Spider-Man was fun too, even if the timed Venom sections were a bit tedious.
>>341628523
ultimate spiderman sucks dicks
Spiderman 2 is ok but it doesn't come close to the PS games
>PS games missions were all different and varied
>It even had stealth
>all those costumes
>>341629950
>Spider-Man 2
>Only acceptable
>>341631939
Also
level based spiderman games >>>>>>>>>>> Open world spiderman games
>>341629950
>Spider-Man and Venom: Maximum Caranage on the list
>But not Spider-Man and Venom: Separation Anxiety
>>341632062
also stan the man was narrating
Oh no Dr. Connors class
>>341632062
Why not open world with cool levels?
>>341629950
Shit,I can't find a rom for spiderman 2.
>>341628631
>Giving Spider-Man to the Tony Hawk guys was pretty genius.
You're goddamned right it was.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWMKtCDzcGs
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8i4lsZ_BNc0
Any word on web-slinging? Stick to buildings or?
>>341633371
>Why not cool shit in between some random repetitive event grind or moving halfway the city
Because if you make it level based you can literally do anything
If you make it open world everything has to be conventional and make sense
You can't have places with coolshit specifically designed with webswining in mind
Plus """""""""open world """""""""" games are not such they are just regular games with a bunch of wasted space in between sections
Both PS spidermans that are considered the best are level based. The only modern spiderman game people said its ok which i agree with is shattered dimensions and its also level based
>>341626908
If he's not already at full health
>>341634128
What if he's not already locked and loaded?
Spider-Man 2000, Spider-Man 2, and Ultimate Spider-Man are GOAT
>>341633904
likely but unconfirmed
>>341628523
LOOKS LIKE THE FREAK WANTS TO PLAAYY
>>341629950
>No Spider-Man 3
>No Shattered Dimensions
Those were fun, mediocre, but fun.
Web of Shadows>>>All.
>>341635450
I actually liked web of shadows, I had a very authentic spiderman experience I thought
I had an issue though
>almost exclusively level up the black suit
>decide to give up the symbiote
>end of the game I have to play with a barely leveled up red suit
postan webms
You can pick 5 villains to have as the main baddies; who do you choose and what type of boss fight do you have
>>341634409
I hope so. That's such a minor detail in the grand scheme of things, but so important.
What combat style should the game have? Which past spiderman/other games should it emulate and what should it steer clear of
>>341636347
Attaching to buildings means absolutely nothing if the proper swing physics aren't there.
That's what people should be asking first.
>>341636206
I really liked the shocker fight in Spiderman 2 for some reason.
It gave you this big factory to move around in, and shocker had some good attacks to keep you on your toes. It was also entertaining to see some of his more powerful moves ragdoll you across the level.
Id like some more boss fights like that.
>>341636347
listen to
>>341636570
Spiderman 2 had proper physics and attachments. Ultimate spiderman had attachments but lost the whole speed and momentum feel of the game. Then it degenerated further into the ASM games where webs dont attach and ontop of that you have the ability to hit max speed at the first swing and not even at the second half of your swing arc. The physics of it all is as important as the webs attaching. Its what makes taking a turn so fun, its what makes speed runs across the city so challenging as you time each web release and swing to get maximum speed.
Theres no confirmation about the webs and anything people say keeps coming up dry without a source. Expect max speed sky swinging until proven otherwise
>>341636445
Those moves look kinda QTEish. I hope im wrong.
>>341637027
its a playstation exclusive?
goddammit i wish i knew this earlier
>>341637003
ragdoll physics is fun as fuck and should be brought back. The mysterio fight in the supermarket was also great, adding it as tease for a future game would be nice if they decide they cant include him in this.
>>341637102
yeah it all looks very QTE and shit so dont get your hopes up. Some anon will come in saying its all gameplay but it all depends on what you define as such in the end. I personally dont think holding X for awesome is but many do.
>>341637371
yeah im disappointed too but i love spiderman enough to buy a console for it i guess. I do think this will move a fair few consoles, surprising number of people posting in the spiderman threads saying how theyll buy the console just for it.
>>341637027
Seriously, if the proper physics aren't applied then ti doesn't matter if the webs attach to buildings. The momentum and control absolutely has to be there.
I don't understand how people whine about Spider-Man games and swinging and then say Ultimate Spider-Man is better than 2. Ultimate absolutely neutered a lot of the stuff you could do in Spider-Man 2 as well as all the acrobatic moves.
>>341637757
> I personally dont think holding X for awesome is but many do.
I feel this way too, thats why FF15 looks fucking dreadful.
>>341626908
LAYING DOWN ON THE JOB PARKER?
>>341637371
Who knows, it may end up as pic related
>>341637371
>Wild Guns Reloaded
>Gravity Rush 2
>Spider-Man
>Horizon Dawn
Guess I'm buying a PS4.
I wish they gave us a price point for the Neo already though. I'll just take my sweet time on it.
>>341637371
they told you greatness awaited but you didn't listen
>>341637843
I didn't even swing in 2, I leveled up my wall run to max and just sprinted everywhere
>>341638053
Developed by Insomniac Games
Published by Sony Interactive Entertainment
Possibly one of the conditions for the Spidey MCU deals
This shit is staying a Playstation exclusive.
>>341638053
rumor has it a stipulation of spiderman being in the MCU is that spiderman games must be exclusive to playstation
>>341638092
>mfw Disney Infinity was the first game in years to get swinging remotely right
>>341631939
Yeah, the PS1 games were good, for their time. Xbox/PS2/Gamecube Spider Man 2 is superior, but i hope the new game will surpass it.
>>341632062
Shit >>>>>>>>>> your opinion. Spider-Man was made to be in open world games.
GUIS!
they said there were many easter eggs in the trailer, anybody notice any? I don't even recognize the bad guys
>>341638301
>Developed by Insomniac Games
Fucking day one purchase.
>>341637843
Completely agree. Too often we expect to make a cake with half the ingredients missing. The physics is what made spiderman2 great. Ultimate i think improved many things, races/villains/story/bosses/venom but lost the very fun swinging. Its swinging wasnt bad, compared to ASM its the GOAT but was a step down.
>>341638017
Id much rather just have a generic beat em up spidey instead of a million flashy moves that happen when i press a special button. Spiderman 2 was wonderful in that it let you spin baddies like a lasoo, pile drive them etc. Id much rather do this than the really flashy but automatic finisher moves from ASM
>>341638483
It's a hybrid type of swing.
If there's an object or building around, the webs will attach to it. The length would also be based on how far said object is.
If there's nothing around, it anchors to the sky.
The DS Metroidvania Spider-Man games also attached to surfaces and its length does factor into your momentum building and speed.
>>341638108
>I didn't even swing in 2, I leveled up my wall run to max and just sprinted everywhere
Wall run + the charge jump is a great combination. Insomniac should look into allowing diff types of locomotion. An option for those who want to jump and wall run, an option for those who enjoy webzip and jumping, an option for those specialising in web swinging. A choice between better wall run, faster swing speed or higher jumping would make playing nice and variable as you distribute points differently through the game
>>341626908
What the fuck happened to Spider-Man 2: Enter Electro?
I didn't know it existed for years because it was PSX only
Nobody ever talks about it!
>>341627817
Ultimate Spider-Man
>>341639228
But that game was available for PS1. I even tought it was exclusive.
But to answer your question, is as good as the first one (you have the alt costumes from the first games plus ten more), except for the graphics who are a little shittier (another exception: the only graphical improvement is spidey suit, it has the web details the first game was lacking).
>>341639801
Didn't it introduce camera controls on the right stick too?
>>341639801
Now that ePSXe got the 3D fixed, sounds like a great plan.I never understood the webpits
>>341639296
WRONG
Ultimate Spiderman is a dumbed down version of 2.
End your life and try again.
>>341629189
>Parker HATES IT when I get the drop on him
...
>I HATE IT WHEN HE GETS THE DROP ON ME
>>341627817
Sorry m8, as good as that one was, it will never beat the PS1 Spidey.
I rented this onDreamcasta long ass time ago. Should I try to get it for good?
>>341639897
I don't think so, but i might be wrong.
>>341640191
BUM-MER, LOOKS LIKE YOU'RE IN THE DOGHOUSE NOW, DUDE!
Spider-man > Web of Shadows > The Movie > Ultimate > 2 > Enter Electro > Shattered dimensions > 3 > Friend or foe > 2(PC)
Haven't played Edge of time or whatever it was called, the last one.
![latest[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/QkArLKg.png "latest[1].png")
When are we ever gonna see this get released?
http://scratchpad.wikia.com/wiki/Spider-Man:_The_PS1_Video_Game_Crossover_Edition
>>341638329
That makes no fucking sense. Sony owns the Spiderman movie rights, what does him being on the MCU have to do with it?
>>341640613
>>341640191
Why can't superhero movies have cheeky banter like this? It makes me laugh instead of grimacing at all the overly dramatic dialogue.
>>341640662
Nah.
Spider-Man PS1 > The Movie 2 > Ultimate > Shattered Dimensions > Enter Electro > Web of Shadows > Friend or Foe > The Movie 1 > Edge of Time > The Movie 3
>>341627817
This and ultimate were THE best games. PS1 gets a special consolation prize due to nostalgia and love
What I love about PS2 was that it was almost, ALMOST, literally Manhattan. No team will ever be so fucking ballsy as to create Manhattan in its ENTIRETY
I've always wished a proper sequel or remake or whatever of this game. It's almost perfect in terms of exploration. Being a NYCer, My dream was for a recreated and realistic Manhattan/NY
They dropped the ball on some details but it was perfect. The devs were so dedicated they actually put full dialogues when the citizens are on their phones. I eavesdropped on at least 3 NPCs and they all had different convos that lasted a pretty long time
RIP Spiderman 2. You'll always be on my shelf
>>341640965
they made a deal, almost as good as the deals trump will make as president.
but since they own the movie rights and marvel studios wanted him in the movie, sony said that's fine as long as we get exclusive rights to publish the character in games
they gave up a little, and they gained a lot
>>341641370
i just hope they make spiderman a nimble navigator like he was in previous games
>>341641370
That makes a little bit more sense. Also congrats on managing to force a Trump reference out of nowhere, praise kek
>>341641273
It's true, new york nigga can't go 5 minutes without telling you that they are a nigga from new york
>>341626908
>the fun cutscenes
>the collectables
>the quality voice acting
>chasing venom in the sewers
>the print room level in the daily bugle
>the random voice clips and the sound effects that are buried in my mind
Such a great game
>>341642130
Don't forget the "what if?" mode.
I honestly want Arkham combat. ASM 1&2 tried it but it was half assed.
SURF THE WEB
SURF THE WEB
SURF THE WEB
>>341638483
Web swinging is pretty fun in that game
It's a shame that Disney shut it down. I was hoping 4.0 would add even more shit so I could build a stupid complicated obstacle course.
how bad is the moonswing
>>341642404
And I want you and people like you to be publicly executed.
SPIDERMAN?
I ASK FOR THE POLICE AND I GET THIS?
>>341641154
>Shattered Dimensions that high
>Edge of Time being worse that the first movie-game
What horrible opinions
>>341642525
this is very confusing to me, I understand you would buy toys to get characters, but why did they make the in game characters look like toys?
They need to go balls to the wall crazy with it! It's not set in real life NYC, it's Spider-Man's NYC!
Don't give us only boring thugs to fight. Give us crazy thugs with wacky gimmicks and technology!
I wanna pop into a club to stop a robbery once in a while only to find some costumed hooligan causing trouble. Like Hypno Hustler!
>>341642546
Bad just like the original Spiderman movie game but you'll be too busy having fun to care.
>>341642315
What If? mode felt like what Spiderman would be if it aired on Adult Swim in the early 2000's.
>>341641273
Yeah the city size was great, ultimate spidermans addition of his small home area and the bridge to get across was nice but if we could get both, no reason we couldnt this gen, it would be great
>>341641812
kek
how do you know someone is from new york?
dont worry, theyll fucken tell you
>>341642404
arkham combat works for batman. Why would spiderman stand around trading blows with guys he can kill in a single blow? Combat needs to go the direction of spiderman 2 and web of shadows, web and acrobatics based. ASM combat was generic brawler shit that even if perfected makes no sense for spiderman. Web of shadows had you fighting on ground, walls and air and jumping between all three constantly. This is what needs to be done for spiderman combat. Simply make guns a lot more deadly meaning stagnant combat just isnt doable without dying. It should be spiderman jumping around dispatching enemies while dodging gun fire not punch counter punch stun punch counter finishingmoveanimation
>>341626908
WHERE'D SPIDER-WUS GO?
SPIDERRR WUUUUUUUUSSSS
COME OUT AND PPLAYYYYY
>>341642435
Shut up, Brock! We don't have time!
>>341642854
yeah but dont go the ASM1 route with giant city robots
>>341642404
The problem with a lot of these Arkham clones is that they aren't responsive and they put priority in the animations playing out fully instead of allowing you to interrupt them when countering. They also put a ridiculous focus on countering that pressing the standard attack button is pretty fucking useless.
ASM games and TMNT: Out of the Shadows both had this problem. ASM suffered far more as it had range enemies where your only option was to dodge. Countering didn't work since you wouldn't fly across the room to fight them, and getting to them is annoying as the other enemies will always run towards you and go for an attack while you're trying to focus on the guy with the assault rifle. You can disable his rifle but you better do it quick because the window is really fucking small.
And then they decide to throw 2 fuckers with assault rifles, and one of them fires when the other is the middle of reloading. Then it's just a never ending game of dodging until you reach at least one.
>>341628747
Are we gonna surf... THE WEB!?
>>341642683
Shattered Dimensions was pretty badass.
>4 different designs and gameplay styles
>Voice actors from every Spider-Man cartoon
>Perfect blend of freeroam and linear level design (the Deadpool level comes to mind)
>High-definition alt. costumes
>>341627817
>tfw pile driving someone off the empire state building
>>341642570
Too bad.
>>341643056
Have you played Arkham games? Batman is all over the place and it looks more like Spidey than Bats fighting style. Sure you can play it like a retard but that's on you.
Also, Spidey is punching normal goons in every game and movie.
>>341636445
I'll cry if it has shit batman arkham combat
>>341642756
Because they're toys in game as well
The world they live in is literally called toybox.
>>341643332
>They also put a ridiculous focus on countering that pressing the standard attack button is pretty fucking useless.
That webm of batman taking out an entire gang while the controller just spams the counter button comes to mind.
>ASM suffered far more as it had range enemies where your only option was to dodge
which is why they should add web based combat
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0sB2yPdKrkY
movesets like these in combat would help spiderman jump around enemy to enemy, why they should implement more acrobatic and webbing moves. Web of shadows wasnt perfect but you can see what i mean
>>341643667
i have played them and i wasnt happy with how the radius in which batman could glide over and punch someone seemed to increase after each game. You shouldnt be able to maintain a combo between two guys on opposite ends of the room with the same attack button. I love the games but wasnt a fan of this.
I get what you mean with that style of gliding across the room being more spiderman style, if incorporated with webs like the link i posted it would be a great midway.
>Also, Spidey is punching normal goons in every game and movie
I get that but it just isnt fun to have spiderman having fist fights with some amateur goons like hes a normal person in an armor suit. Web of shadows imo had the, while not perfect, best spiderman combat system as it was what you would expect spiderman to fight like instead of standing on the ground and trading blows like rocky
>>341643218
Woah now, that shit was fun.
Just give us small town sized robots.
>>341629213
Josh Keaton is THE perfect voice actor for Spider-man/ Peter Parker. This one sounds like Yosuke or James Arnold Taylor which is pretty me tier already.
>>341644395
I'd be all for a Spider-Man sized robot battle against the first Spider Slayer, controlled by J. Jonah Jameson.
Bonus points if they get J. K. Simmons to voice him and he talks trash at you while you fight.
>>341644386
>That webm of batman taking out an entire gang while the controller just spams the counter button comes to mind.
That actually works as intended though and you can interrupt your current default attack animation when there's a counter coming up.
ASM and TMNT doesn't allow for that. Your default attack animation must play in its entirely before a counter move is registered. It makes for a very sluggish and unresponsive combat system. At that point, pressing attack is fucking useless as it will only get you killed.
>>341644386
>movesets like these in combat would help spiderman jump around enemy to enemy, why they should implement more acrobatic and webbing moves. Web of shadows wasnt perfect but you can see what i mean
ASM actually had those moves too
They fucking sucked. But that's not why I brought up that example. I'm just pointing out why the other comic games with Arkham combat sucks ass. They copied it but they don't understand why it works.
>>341644386
It would be easy to implement web stuff to Arkham base style. Hell, the ice grenades already serve a point in that. Also the batclaw but more diverse stuff for Spidey.
>>341644898
>They fucking sucked. But that's not why I brought up that example. I'm just pointing out why the other comic games with Arkham combat sucks ass. They copied it but they don't understand why it works.
i understand. If they are to copy it we should hope for good implementation and >>341644945 said, incorporation of web moves.
I have high hopes for this game. Their biggest dev team yet, no movie time constraints, big budget. I feel like i can almost hope for good combat and story instead of just webswinging and physics as they should be a sure thing at this point. It feels strange to have a spiderman thread where we can discuss something other than swinging because we expect so much
>>341627817
My kids played this game so much the disk stoped working.I bought them a second copy.
>>341644386
>That webm of batman taking out an entire gang while the controller just spams the counter button comes to mind.
Here we go again. By doing that, you would finish every fight in a day. You can't win by just pushing triangle/Y.
>>341644867
JK Simmons was the perfect JJJ. I don't care about confused fans, I want JK Simmons to play Jonah in the new movies.
>>341627817
he's right you know
>>341645546
Swing fags are the worst and they suffer from tunnel vision that they fail to see that Spider-Man is more than just swinging.
I really hope that Insomniac isn't going to shy away from some of the more crazy stuff in the franchise.I want Spider-Man to come across weird shit and fight it. Lizards, mind readers, vampires, himself.
It's the only reason why I even tolerated ASM1. ASM2 jsut threw all that shit out the window just to be closer to the movies.
>>341645586
I played the fuck out of that game, dumped hours and hours into it and when I got to the final boss I decided to just take a break for a few minutes and tackle it fresh so I could appreciate it.
When I came back and turned it back on [file corrupt, save data lost]
>>341642315
What If? Needs to be mandatory for Spider-Man games.
>>341641273
>full dialogues when the citizens are on their phones
is that ultimate spider man you're talking about?
>>341645906
I dont blame em, they want one of the biggest features of their game to be done well because somehow 2 gens later we still cant do it. They are tunnel visioned in that should they get it they would probably be content with shitty everything else (i loved spiderman 2 but it had issues).
Some mysterio type levels where things get crazy and trippy, underground sewers with lizards and crazy morbius chases through the city at night would be wonderful. Its not attached to any movie so they can go as wild as they want.
>>341628280
WHAT'S WITH THE GETTUP?
>kraven the hunter
>throughout the game at random points get jumped and attacked
>a booby trap goes off or a quick mini boss fight with kraven after he hits you with some drug
>about 3-4 of these random encounters
>culminates in an actual mission where you finally track and hunt him for a proper big boss fight
Build up is as important as the actual fight, we need to build kraven as this constant threat. I understand a random attack would be annoying, it could be timed to occur right before a mission marker in a secluded spot to reduce inconvenience. Spiderman commenting on it through the story about a madman constantly chasing him and watching him would be goat.
>>341645595
I don't know if it's shitposting or people just genuinely sucking at the game.
You can play DMC, MG Rising and Vanquish like a retard too. Doesn't mean they have shit combat.
Spiderman is the only good superhero. Debate this.
>>341646870
Add in some random sightings in free roam and it's solid. Swinging past a billboard at night and you see him there, as you go to investigate he's disappeared
How did Spiderman 2 come out so good? I feel like there should be some sort of legend behind it. The law of bad movie games demands it to be bad, and yet it is not. I would even so as far as to say it was underrated critically back when it released.
>>341646962
Shield, knife and gun guys alone force you out of mashing counter. Then there's lots of gadgets and surroundings you can use.
Arkham doesn't really have a deep combat system but it's downplayed a lot here.
>>341646962
Like in Ninja Gaiden (standard, haven't tried Black), you can just izuna drop and roll your way to victory, but nobody complains about that.
>>341647018
There's lots of good superheroes, Spider-Man is just one of the most relatable to teens growing up.
>>341647018
No your right. I was never really into capeshit ever as a child. The only heroes I can enjoy are Spiderman, Batman and Judge Dredd.
The others are just too dumb tbqh famicom.
>>341647018
Would agree if it weren't for all the alternate universe shit.
>>341647416
It's based on the only good Spider-Man movie of the Tobey trilogy.
>>341645689
Parker, you're unfired, I need you, come over here!
>>341647753
Spider-man 1 was good
>>341645689
I agree
>>341647018
Nah, Batman is better, casuals and normies are right this time.
>>341638483
lego marvel did it better
>>341636206
Venom - small arena, up close and personal, like the PS1 fight
Shocker - big space to get shot around or bashed up, maybe like the Spiderman 2 fight
Vulture - On top of/across a few skyscrapers, hopefully without a bullshit chase sequence beforehand
Mysterio - Illusionary room, changing environment, maybe without any giant shenanigans like in PS1 or Shattered Dimensions
Kraven - Area with a lot of potential to get ambushed, maybe playing off the inevitable spider sense mechanic a little without making it easy by just dodging with a button (you know you're gonna get jumped, but you have to know from where)
>>341643519
my nigga.
>>341626908
At least it has the best Soundtrack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NW4YCnU6oIo
>>341648310
>Batman is better
The problem with Batman comics is they take it too far. Writers are so enamored with him being a normal man in a superpowered world that he literally is better than everyone who should be better than him not, purely because of writer fiat.
>>341648807
Nope
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=czTksCF6X8Y
>>341648310
way less interesting than spidey, even punisher is more interesting than bats
>>341648892
Oh shit, you got me.
>>341648781
>Shocker - big space to get shot around or bashed up, maybe like the Spiderman 2 fight
Best Shocker fight was in SM:The movie.
>>341648310
Casuals and normies buy more Spider-Man stuff than Batman.
>>341648832
I think that's a cool trope of him. He always has the right device at the right moment. A "Mary Sue" you may say, but that has become a part of the character.
>>341648781
>hopefully without a bullshit chase sequence beforehand
am i the only one who loved the chases in ultimate spiderman? because i love the webswinging so much i love perfecting it in a chase mission, failing and retrying to release my webs sooner, web zip over rooftops etc
>>341649151
That was a good one too. Now that I think of it, he was in a lot of fairly recent games but never as a really important or devastating enemy. The sequel to the PS1 game, SM movie game, Ultimate Spiderman (where he's reduced to a miniboss and later a unique enemy)
>>341643110TAG
>>341649262
Not when he pulls shit out of his fucking ass.
Batman has a counter to everything because he thought about it 10 days in advance for just such situations.
There's nothing fucking exciting about that. At least make him fucking MacGyver shit.
>>341649254
Then fuck them. Batman is still cooler. And i think what you say is debatable: i see t-shirts of Bats all the time, but of Spidey?, barely. Unofficial merchandise, yes, but he seems to be the favorite of people.
>>341629875
>fuck ALL the waifus
>final mission
>Green Goblin kidnaps all 10 of them
>mission becomes 10x harder
>>341649339
I just got sick of having to do it, since you have to do a chase in over half the Spider-man missions. It came down to starting a mission and expecting to have to follow the next villain along on his rampage. They switched it up sometimes since the chases had different gimmicks (mostly), but it felt lame after the 5th one. I liked the races/trials better for swinging around and getting it just right.
>>341649479
Hey man, MacGuyver was an amazing show
>>341649262
Except that for like 50 years that was NOT part of his character. Hell even as recently as the 80s Batman was seen as very fallible, with stuff like The Dark Knight Returns showing at how Batman can't let the crusade go even when trying for decades. That he won't let a new generation of Batman exist without him creating it.
>>341648969
Frank is just the guy who kill you not before cutting you a finger and tell you edgy stuff. Batman is the fucking Dark Knight, a modern myth.
Most underrated part of Spider-man 2 right here
>>341649830
i see what you mean. Vulture on the other hand could provide a unique chase type sequence, you chase him across manhattan and as you get close enough you pull off a feather or someshit while dodging bombs or something.
Youre right in saying the chases get boring for the 100th villain but i think designing it to be a boss fight of sorts in the chase could change it a lot. Perfecting your speed would be a lot more enjoyable if it means you can grab him and disable one of his 3 thrusters or something. Something to aim toward when chasing and that leads to the final boss fight.
>>341649870
I'm not knocking MacGyver m8. Love the show.
The great thing about the show is that he always has a solution for a situation, but he needs to think it out and work for it.
>>341649479
I don't know why people focus on Batman with this stuff. It's very basic in pretty much any story that the hero deus ex machinas themselves out of trouble.
Is it because Batman basically says "I knew this would happen"?
>>341648969
Punisher is different. He was created in a time when the Comics Code Authority made it so that heroes didn't kill and generally tough issues weren't touched. Frank Castle is an exception, he was made specifically as a response to how bad crime in America was in the 70s.
>>341627817
>All these kids saying this garbage
>Tfw clearly so many 16 year olds on /v/
I would like an agent venom game, it could control much like regular spiderman but there could be some gunplay and one of those overused rage meters all games seem to have (does anyone actually enjoy those?) so you can transform into wild venom
>>341650224
>I don't know why people focus on Batman with this stuff
Read The Dark Knight Strikes Again and you'll know why
>>341626908
How do you guys feel about Yuri doing the voice?
Did anyone played spiderman 1 for pc . It was completely different game but superior
>>341649875
You mean the comic where he fucking beat up Superman using preptime and correct gadgets?
>>341649402
>(where he's reduced to a miniboss and later a unique enemy)
Being a Shocker fan is suffering sometimes.
>>341642683
The first movie-game was great you fucking pleb
>playable Shocker (IIRC) and Green Goblin
>Bruce Campbell tutorial
>those extra modes
>that everything
>>341650752
>beat up
You're forgetting that Superman took everything Bats threw at him, and even with Green Arrow helping with kryptonite arrows, Supes won.
>>341650816
The graphics have aged well too. They amazed me at that time, as i was used to the PS1 game graphics.
>>341640613
>>341641034
Venom was a complete idiot thoughfucking great
>>341651250
Venom is SUPPOSED to be an idiot though, Eddie Brock is not a smart man.
>>341650752
batman did not win that, superman was outright holding back and trying to take him in peacefully the entire time. It was like a 5 year old fighting his dad who was trying to put him in time out.
the comics have made it very clear, even explicit that if superman chose to kill batman he could pop his head off at any time and batman would never see it coming. And that imagery isn't something I made up, the comic literally drew that in a panel.
>>341650949
Batman could have killed Superman. He had him where he wanted him. At the end, it was a draw.
>>341651359
>Batman could have killed Superman.
Except you know, he had a heart attack
>>341651450
Caused by himself to fake his death.
>>341651321
Don't get me wrong, it's five times better than muh revenge
>>341650552
I was thinking about a venom game. I had the idea you would play both eddie and flash. With a third mode were you play as carnage just ripping people apart.
>>341650717
No it wasn't, it was the same as PS1 version. Only difference between all of the versions of that game was that N64 one didn't have animated cutscenes.
>>341651836
What do you think of Anti-Venom?
>>341651991
Im talking about this it was different game
>>341650949
>>341651325
You're missing the point. Batman having preptime has been part of the character for a long time.
>>341652158
But Batman having preptime means an instant win is the meme.
>>341651991
He might be thinking in the first movie game, which was the same as the others. The best version of that game is the Xbox one: it had cool exclusive Kraven levels, i still wonder why, as that movie was from Sony.
>>341651947
>>341652112
I wonder if we get Anti-Venom in this game since Negative is involved.
>>341652136
Ah, i was right. No buddy, it was the same as consoles, and as i said, the Xbox version was the best.
>>341652346
It's the origin of that power so probably.
Though unless they go into detail about Eddie getting cancer and the symbiote withdrawal, Anti-Venom doesn't make sense to introduce.
>>341652158
but he fucks up a lot even with prep time.
There is a big difference between batman the character and batman the meme.
Batman the meme is lol batman wins
batman the character is a big turn off to a lot of people that read batman for the first time and realize he isn't what they thought he was
conversely captain falcon the character and captain falcon the meme are one in the same
>think about replaying this
>remember all those sewers levels
It's one of those games.
![maxresdefault[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/9hfpgra.jpg "maxresdefault[1].jpg")
>>341627817
>PLAATU VERADA NICTO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFqUbG_NoLg
>>341652478
>conversely captain falcon the character and captain falcon the meme are one in the same_no
>>341636206
When you look at the enemies Spider-Man is fighting, Mr. Negative is pretty much confirmed. I don't really know much or care much about him but I'm all for introducing more obscure enemies to the masses. As for the villains I'd like to see:
>Vulture
early/mid-game, testing your ability to maneuver around the city
>Mysterio
something similar to the mirror room magic in SM2, I loved that
>Shocker
Early game thug, first major boss fight
>Doc Ock
Overarching villain
>Electro
any type of boss fight, just make his costume not shit
>>341651250
Venom is best when he's got a sense of humor. I hate it when they just portray him as just a slobbering animal.
>>341652593
The chopper chase levels are worse.
>>341652801
more like the best level
>>341652478
Yeah but that shit depends completely on who is writing him. Every character can be shit, it's not exclusive to Batman.
>>341650193
Best part.
>>341652697
it's true, has been true ever since f-zero GX
motherfucker was campy as fuck
>>341652852
Yeah, they are fun, is just that part being more long than necesary. Would like more bank heist levels instead.
>>341652668
KLAATU YOU FOOL, YOU'LL DOOM US ALL
Why is Raimi's Spider-Man design socreepy?
I saw the first film when it came out as a kid, and not only did I have nightmares about the Green Goblin afterwards, but Spidey aswell.
>>341652778
>Hey, Spidey, could you get us Captain America's autograph?
>>341651947
Then have what if mode where you switch eddie/flash in the levels and try to save people with carnage-man.
obligatory
>>341653141
that bank heist was wonderful, a stealth mission other than a shitty arkham predator room knock off like in ASM would be wonderful.
I hope theyre not afraid to take the game indoors sometimes, open world is nice but it should define everything
>>341639090
Oh shit, is that game good?
>>341653436
That's the outdated one
It's filled with errors up the ass.
>>341653310
raimi spidey is best. I don't know what you are talking about
>>341653398
I really hate Carnage. He's just edgy Venom.
>>341653436
>asm2 swinging
ill never not be mad. 2 gens later and they have the nerve to hand you a spiderman free roaming game with no proper swing physics and moon swinging.
>>341653646
He's more like an edgy Joker, which would be okay at best if they focused on humanizing him more than just making him stupid-crazy.
>>341653548
I think so too when it comes to the movies, the first two are my absolute fav superhero movies, but the designs were unnerving. Even the first movie felt like it had a horror atmosphere to it. I guess that just has to do with Raimi coming straight from a line of horror movies, but still
>>341653436
Am I the only one who played Spider-Man 3 on PS2? It had SM2 swinging. It was a pretty good game, actually.
>>341636206
Spider-Man has too many great villains, but I'll go with:
>Venom
>Shocker
>Rhino
>Ock
>Mysterio or maybe Green Goblin (or perhaps save him for the inevitable sequel)
>>341653436
Did Spider-Man 3 have moonswinging? Nobody ever talks about it.
>>341653835
He's a serial killer with a hillbilly name, he's not going to be humanized.
>>341653865
i dont know why but it was no good compared to sm2, im not sure but i remember playing it and not having as much fun
>>341652969
>peter takes a woman out on a date to a fancy restaurant
>dessert comes
>waiter puts it down on the table
>a delicious dark chocolate layer cake
>the frosting on top starts to squirm around
>two large clawed hands spring out and rip peters dates top down the center, exposing her breasts
>they grab her face and mash cake into it
>the hands melt away into tendrils and slither to a potted plant in the corner
>venom pokes his head out from behind the plant
>HEH HEH HEH, EAT SHIT PARKER!
>he sticks his tongue out and flips peter off
>then jumps through the window and flees the scene
>>341653849
What Spidey did to you in your dreams, anon?.
>>341654247
never write stories
>>341652112
too many symbiotes
>>341648310
Not only are you wrong, you posted the shittiest on-screen Batman to date.
>>341654313
that was very mean of you to say
>>341652778
Did he steal a truck?
>>341653646
I can understand he doesn't have many good stories.
>>341648781
>>341652750
>>341653936
No one mentioned
>Kingpin
>Scorpion
>no Molten Man
>no Hydro-Man
>no Arcade
Come on, you guys are basically just listing the Sinister Six
>>341654293He broke into my house through the bathroom window and kidnapped my mom
>>341654552
I did all that just to trigger you.
>>341654389
No I asked what you think of him, not what he thinks of Manhattan.
>>341654852
kek, bathroms are perfect of nightmares
>>341654619
better here than out in the real world where you make an arse of yourself
>>341654787
>>no Hydro-Man
well everyone is posting bosses and how you would do a boss fight, you gotta post that too if youre suggesting em mate. Hydroman fight would be a strange one
>>341655012
>arse
don't you have a vote to get to?
>>341655159
Reverse Sandman fight
>>341655174
what
>>341655247
Comics tried that, they just fuse into mudman.
No really.
>>341636206
I still can't tell if that's Spiderman 2 web swinging. I'd really like to hope, it LOOKS like it, but I've been burned too many times.
The way he slows down when he reaches the end of the swing makes me think that it is. But it could just be a canned animation and not physics.
If it has it, it'll be my GOTY either way.
>>341654552
Weird way to say the best Batman we have ever seen.
>>341636445
I dig the white spider. I've been a Spiderman fan since I was like 8, IDK what the bitching is about. I think the colors work.
>>341655159
would probably be lame
>open these valves and spray a freezing substance at him
>>341655424
keep your expectations low
>>341655424
Insomaniac should just buy Treyarch web-swinging mechanics. That would save them the job and make everyone happy.
>>341649731
A dating aspect could be pretty fun, if implemented well. You'd also get more replay ability if you can have more than one love interest.
>>341653973
moonswinging if I recall correctly. SM3 is actually an OK game but it doesn't hold a candle to SM2.
I also liked shattered dimensions for some weird reason
>>341654921
>HONK HONK
What did he mean by this?
>>341655965
Goddamn. Does MJ get naked in comics? Or do they fuck on-screen?
>>341654921
We need webm of this. Wait does sound still only work on /gif/?
>>341655835
it cant possibly be that hard to do when it was done on whats considered a toaster these days. They have their biggest team working on this game, to expect anything less than sm2 swinging would be crazy. It should be the base line from which the work and expand upon.
Adding things like the ability to make clothesline between buildings to perch on or hook car jackers on, slingshots, improved web zips etc.
It would make me suicidal to hear that somehow they were unable once again to implement a basic physics based swing system where webs attach to things that exist
