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I think we can all agree that the legend of Zelda is the best series of games ever made.
They've made almost 20 games now and 90% of them have been some of the best games ever made.
Discuss how amazing Zelda is.
My favorites are Wind Waker, Ocarina Of Time, Link to the past, Link between worlds Minish cap
>Zelda: BotW is just a 3D remake of 1 with tons of added features and the world enlarged
>hidden bomb-able, burnable, etc locations
>rings and accessories return
>>341586819
I find it funny that back in the early 90s everybody is calling Zelda series a light RPG, because apparently 'real' RPG should be turn-based like the western ones. After the release and success of Diablo, however, action RPG started getting praises, turn-based are inferior JRPGs, and Zelda series are no longer classified as RPG.
I'm I handheld now more than anything. Don't even know if I'm getting a WiiU or NX.
Between Minish Cap, Phantom Hourglass, and Spirit Tracks, which are worth my time, once I'm done with Majora's Mask 3D and Link Between Worlds?
>another fucking zelda shill thread
>>341586819
The music is shit and there is nothing interesting, like big towns or npcs on the overworld, in the world to make the game actually feel alive(for now, we dont know how it will be in the full game).
If it werent a open world game i could overlook those points, but for a open world gsme its quite important.
>>341587269
minish cap
spirit tracks maybe, more likely no
phantom hourglass no.
New one looks like a shit tier Shadow of Colossus clone for children.
I grew up with Zelda from the mid '80s.
But it was A Link To The Past that cemented the series as God-Tier to me.
And Ocarina of Time was a game changing masterpiece.
>>341586819
so metal gear
I love this
>>341587576
Damn what game?
>>341587086
Implying jrpgs didn't start turn based rpg combat
>>341588096
This is a fucking mmorpg, called black desert and it's already better than zel....oh hu ops. I mean zelda isn't under developed and it's sure to 'pop up' in homes everywhere!
>>341587647
>Minish Cap
Oh wait, that's on Advance. Shit. All I have is 3DS.
>>341587086
Never understood this hispter revisionism that Zelda isn't an RPG.
Why?
Because it doesn't have level-grinding and turn-based combat?
What about all the things the series DOES have in common with RPGs? Better ignore all that shit right?
RPG fags can go grind their dicks together.
>>341588897
it's not an RPG because you are Link, you are not roleplaying as him
>>341586819
no. most are generic trash. this looks fun though for once. fingers crossed.
>>341588850
Oh, disregard, I suck cocks. I can get it on virtual console.
>>341587269
Minish Cap sucks pretty bad.
Spirit Tracks is even worse.
Phantom Hourglass is based.
>>341588963
Says you, my character's name is Captain Pantsu.
>>341588897
Same reason people argue that Dark Souls isn't a JRPG because it's not anime, despite it literally being a Japanese RPG.
>>341586819
>we
kysmm
>>341588897
What makes it an RPG?
>>341588259
Wizardry.
>>341588963
So at worst, it's still a JRPG.
>>341589113
than post pantsus
>>341589202
it's an adventure game with no roleplaying and leveling up
>>341586819
>we
How about if WE go to your house and kill you?
>>341586819
No. After WW it was down hill. Wild made me interested in a Zelda game for the first time in a decade.
Arguing whether or not Zelda is an RPG is like arguing whether ALIEN is a sci-fi movie or a horror film. Who fucking cares?
>>341589302
So at worst, it's still a JRPG.
![Wolf-Link-2-rcm992x0[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/cqeave3.jpg "Wolf-Link-2-rcm992x0[1].jpg")
>you have to buy a stupid overpriced plastic figure to get access to one of the features of this game
So you guys are just ok with this now?
>>341589229
>>341589513
i'll steal it
>>341589039
You could also emulate
Also the DS ones are bleh. I'm a hardcore Zelda fan who loved Skyward Sword and even I didn't like them.
>>341589513
I'm fucking pissed off.
Especially because having DD in MGSV was my favorite part of the game because I could pet him.
>>341588897
If you're calling Zelda an RPG then you're calling God of War, DMC, Darksiders, and a lot of other games RPGs as well.
The only good ones were ALTTP, 64, MM, Link's Awakening and LBW. The rest were garbage.
>>341589970
Early RPGs in the 8-bit and 16-bit era were the defaco genre of choice for people who wanted a more cerebral gaming experience.
As video games evolved, more games starting to include RPG elements to give them more depth.
The lines have been blurred.
But Zelda was always considered an RPG until it wasn't.
>>341589513
No, but I already have the amiibo because waifu
>>341588416
>mmorpg
interest dropped
>>341590314
Zelda being an old series does not somehow grandfather it in to a genre. Zelda has been an action/adventure game far longer than it has been an RPG by a majority of people. Genres are blending together a lot lately, but Zelda doesn't fit what we put out as RPGs today. Having an inventory system does not make something an RPG.
>>341586819
Nintendo should drop their console altogether and develop games for PC instead.
>>341587529
Towns and NPCs are confirmed
They just left it out for the demo
And the music is awesome. For me at least
>>341590379
your waifu is a male wolf?
So, what run are you gonna do first when you get the game?
Shirtless Vegan run for me
>>341590901
Axe only, shirtless run
>>341590901
sneak up on moblins
>>341591078
don't tell me your waifu is that fat goblin...
>>341591078
not that I have anyhing against loving wolves if that's you thing...
Can this game be played single player?
Is it even worth it?
>>341590590
If you read gaming magazines back then, people used to call Zelda action RPG up until some time when Zelda is suddenly not an RPG anymore.
Maybe there will be wolves Link can befriend in the game. There is still a lot we don't know, and they kept saying Link didn't have a companion for MOST of his adventure instead of not having a companion at all
I always saw Zelda as adventure games
>>341591340
>Can this game be played single player?
Yes
>Is it even worth it?
Eh, Did you ever play Four Sword Adventures? It's like that.
>>341588963
But that is what you are doing, you are playing the role of Link, you are not supposed to be him you never where supposed to be him he is a literal link between you and the game.
You are you and Link is Link.
RPG has become a broad term but it still stems from the fact that you are playing a role, stats is just something commonly attributed to RPG.
Yes, we can save the time for arguing the semantics that I understand every single game is an RPG by this definition, which kind of is my point.
>>341591535
>You are you and Link is Link.
6deep10mii
>>341591502
I only played the Four Swords game that came with the GBA LTTP (but someone else over link cable), not the GCN one.
>>341591181
midna is hawt
>>341591535
Addition:
This falls under "Everything is so nothing is", maybe that's why everyone seems to think Stats and levels are crucial to what makes and RPG.
>>341591181
You say it like it's a bad thing?
>>341589824
I replaced PH like a year ago and I enjoyed it much more than I did when it released. Haven't tried ST yet though.
If I was Nintendo no way would I be putting this game out on WiiU. Id launch it next to NX as the big "killer" app.
This game needs a bump in resolution and some MSAA and it would look great. Maybe bump the Foliage slider up a bit why we are tweaking it
>>341591309
Not today Ace
>>341591750
*replayed, not replaced
>>341586819
Zelda is the normie cancer killing games and I fully believe that.
But for the record the new one looks fun
>>341591370
Because genres change, and is largely up to personal opinion when they're "blurred". You could say Zelda is an RPG, but it's not strong enough to be actually classified as one. It has extremely light RPG elements but by current standards it's not really enough. When things like CoD are even adding in RPG elements (Level progression, branching story archs and decisions) you gotta draw a line somewhere.
But back on release, the first 2-3 Zelda games were definitely advertised as RPGs. Things got muddier once they went 3D
>>341591770
It's already coming out on the NX. Just like Twilight Princess, and to some extent even like OoT MQ on the Gamecube.
I don't understand why so many people hate Zelda. Or more specifically, the "Zelda formula".
Someone please explain to me how going into a dungeon, getting a fun item to use, solving puzzles with said item and defeating a boss with said item is apparently inexcusable, horrible game design?
Personally I think it's makes perfect sense.
>>341589647
NO ONE WILL EVER KNOW.
>>341590901
Shirtless run until the game forces me to use one in order to progress.
>>341592220
because it's not an adventure like Zelda fans praise the series to be. It doesn't become exciting it becomes an obvious chore. The sense that you're an adventurer is totally blown out of the way be how obvious everything becomes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOC3vixnj_0
(you don't have to watch the whole thing there's more specific parts about what you're talking about.)
>>341589513
They mentioned any dog amiibo would allow some sort of summon. It could have been a slip but if I could get a bloodhound using duck hunt that'd be pretty sweet.
I'm thinking that there may be other tameable animals aside from horses so you might still be able to have a wolf companion just not wolf link.
Could be talking out my ass though.
>>341592547
I don't think you'll ever be forced to wear one.
In cold areas you can bring a lit torch with you or eat spicy foods. Presumably hot areas will have similar temporary fixes, meaning a shirtless run is entirely doable.
Alternatively, you could get buff and just slowly tank the damage.
>>341592818
A lot of people are thinking there will be a zora tunic again, a dungeon with such extreme temperatures it requires a special suit, or something like that
>>341586819
nice b8 m8
>>341592957
well, then you're just gonna have to skip that dungeon for the shirtless run.
you can do the final boss from the beginning anyways
>>341592031
I agree. By the time it turned 3D, Zelda only has vestigial RPG elements. Dungeons, item progression, increasing HP, sidequests, etc.
>>341592220
Maybe because the Zelda formula is to gamey? (Whatever that means.)
>>341592112
>Zelda has been a fairly linear affair for a while
>Finally getting freedom to explore a proper sized Hyrule
>A possible shake up of the tired story
>Possibly Zelda 2 esque villages that may be more fleshed out or as fleshed out as the single Kakariko village most games have
>Not restricted to just a sword or linear item progression as you can fight Ganon from the game start if you hate you life.
>Resurgence of magic items and equipment.
The open world where you can literally climb that mountain is just icing on the hype mate.
>>341592678
>OoT Sequelitis
Everything in that video is bullshit.
>>341592957
That's all speculation. Aonuma says he's trying to break every convention of Zelda, so it's possible that mandatory tunics are out, too.
In fact, so far it seems the only mandatory thing in the game is the Sheik Slate.
>90% of them have been some of the best games ever made.
Nigga there's been like four bad Zelda games in the last decade.
>>341592678
Those legs.
>>341593338
>Sequelitis
People accuse him of cherry picking, but everything he says is true.
When I was a kid, I didn't honestly enjoy OoT until after I escaped Kokori forest. Until then I was disappointed. And I hated being told which dungeon to go to next.
Playing it now, it's kind of boring. Majora's Mask, on the other hand...
>>341587086
I've played every Zelda on release sense of Link to the Past. I have never seen anyone outside of the internet referred to Zelda as an RPG. And I usually make fun of the ones who do
Zelda isn't an RPG, retard
God Tier
Majora's Mask > Link's Awakening > Oracle Of Seasons/Oracle Of Ages
Great Tier
Zelda 1 > Wind Waker > Zelda 2
Pretty Good Tier
Link To The Past > Minish Cap > OoT
Kinda-boring-but-still-good-games tier
Skyward Sword = or > Twilight Princess
>>341589513
You people are so retarded with amiibo
They didn't come up with the wolf companion and then say "let's lock this behind an amiibo"
They said, "How can we reward people that own this amiibo" and came up with the wolf. I know this is a fine distinction (so it can't be made by most anons) but it's important.
tl;dr version: the wolf companion wouldn't exist at all if there were no amiibos, so people without the amiibo wouldn't have wolves either way.
>>341588416
>>341588096
It's Dragon's Dogma Online, retard.
>>341595068
>source: my ass
>>341589513
You'll probably just be able to tame other animal companions in the game and the Wolf is just one of many skins for them. Instead of Wolf Link you'll just get Wolf, who cares?
>>341591340
>Can it be played single player?
Yes
>Is it worth it?
I had fun with it, but some of the challenge stages are damn near impossible (maybe literally impossible) without other human players. It's also sometimes tedious.
The game could have used a lot more DLC than it received (I'm going to bet lackluster sales is the culprit here), and also amiibo support.
>>341595183
Nintendo has said as much
amiibos are about selling toys for fun and profit, and then they reward the people who bought toys with content that wouldn't have existed otherwise.
Point me to a single example of amiibo locking out content that would previously been "free" to every player? Even one? Like, the Fire Emblem characters would not have been in S.T.E.A.M. if there weren't amiibos, there was never a "train an AI" mode in Smash Bros before amiibos, you never got to unlock costumes for your Mii in Mario Kart before amiibos, etc
>>341594829
Koizumi should just take control of Zelda.
Between Awakening and Majora, it's clear he has a knack for it.
>>341595049
This is pretty fair.
I think SS is the best 3D Zelda for a first playthrough, but the worst to replay.
Wind Waker is probably the best game in the series but Minish Cap is a close second
>>341587576
As much as I love Dragon's Dogma, some of this MMO shit is too flashy.
>>341595221
This.
They wouldn't go through the trouble of programming pet/companion AI just for an amiibo.
W-woah! Revolutionary, this will be the best game ever!
>>341595735
I dropped it in the middle of the third dungeon. Went back to it, cleared the dungeon, and enjoyed the event afterwards. Then lent it to a curious friend, who's had it for almost a year and still hasn't played it yet. And I'm not even itching to have it back.
I wonder if I should actually attempt finishing it.
>>341596506
The fact that it reminds me of DD in so many ways is what has me so excited 2bhfamiliar
>Breath of the Wild
>for Wii U
>not waiting for NX
Nintendo has already failed before it even began.
>>341596998
Shit I thought it was DD for a minute, so similar
>>341586819
>They've made almost 20 games now and 90% of them have been some of the best games ever made
The only decent Zeldas came out in the 80s and 90s. Series has been garbage for 15 years.
>>341589513
You do realise that you can just borrow someone else's Amiibo and use it to get the companion, right? Unlike DLC that literally every other company does, including the ones you like, Nintendo's Amiibos can at least be shared and generally affects minor things.
I mean fuck, pretty much all Amiibo related unlockables in games have been comsetic stuff from what I've seen.
Is it right? Is it jewery? Maybe, but it's a bit too late to complain now when literally every fucking company on Earth does it and Nintendo was among the last to do it.
so
are you gona buy all the amiibo?
>>341597101
>Didn't buy a WiiU because of course not
>CEMU coming together quickly
>don't mind waiting a couple years extra to get my hands on Zelda, since there will be so many just-as-good open world RPGs coming out in the meanwhile, this is just another one on the pile.
>If I get impatient I can simply buy a NX and play the superior version
Feels good to have better options, m8
