>Overwatch is a TEAM FOCUSED, HERO BASED, COUNTER BASED, OBJECTIVE BASED, FPS.
>Individual skill is greatly diminished by the focus on HARD COUNTERS
>The objective based gameplay makes team coordination the most important
>No death match means no need to balance the 1v1 element of the game
>Quake Champions is an ARENA BASED, DEATH MATCH BASED, FPS, with Champions having unique attributes and abilities
>The champions give a small twist on the game play, the different attributes and abilities are there to keep the game strategy diverse and varied
>Every Champion can pick any gun, with other elements that made Quake so great
>The game is death match focused so 1v1 balance has the highest priority
>Ranger vs Visor will have different strategy than Ranger vs Blue haired chick, but every hero is balanced for 1v1
>The "classes/hero" aspect of the game is minor and there for variety and a breath of fresh air
>Abilities won't be that high impact that they come at the cost of FPS element of the game
>The game is designed to be a big E-Sport
>The team play doesn't come at the cost of INDIVIDUAL SKILL, a great player will be able to solo carry against multiple good players
This game is nothing like Overwatch and will become the biggest shooter and E-sport of the future.
Prove me wrong faggots, you can't.
>>341577846
Yeah, no, it's a re-skinned Overwatch.
sounds gay as shit desu
>>341577846
sounds terrible.
>>341577846
You're right.
I don't know why everyone immediately transformed "abilities" into "class-based"
Asymmetry is strange in a skill-based game but it could work if it's done well.
>>341577962
Nope, it isn't. Die from aids shill.
as much as I love quake I doubt this will succeed.
Bought over watch today and am downloading it right now, I know it's casual garbage for shitters but that's where the player base is.
This will be just like quake live, a small group of bitter vets circle jerking about how it's the best most skilled game in the world and somehow that means it should be the most popular.
QC will come out, be played a bunch, and dead within a month.
Id doesn't have the pull the name used to have.
>>341577846
DELETE THIS OVERWATCH™ WILL NOT FAIL
>Now were getting games trying to be Overwatch killers
>>341577846
>ARENA BASED
Arena shooters are a dead phenomenon m80. No one want so to watch player X kill player Y for the 17th time.
There's no impact to it and thus doesn't do well as a spectator sport.
I'm not saying that Overwatch is better, but the focus of that game isn't on the kills, but the objective.
Quake doesn't have anything but kills.
>>341578265
Not as terrible as your whore mothers abused gaping wizard sleeved vagina you subhuman bastard mongoloid.
>>341578752
I never got why Blizzard games seem to warrant some custom-made killer.
>WoW killer
>Hearthstone killer
>Overwatch killer
>>341578793
people will get bored soon from the object gameplay in OW it's just chokepoint over chokepoint.
>>341577846
Why will Quake Champions fail:
>It's a twitch shooter
I'm a huge QL/UT fan, i wasted thousands of hours in gaming centres playing and watching other play competetive twitch shooters, but their time is gone. Milions of casuals are going to play Overwatch with friends because that's what they do, but only a handful of "super pro veterans" will play a twitch shooter.
Sorry boys.
>>341578610
I also play Overwatch and that is why and how I know these two games are different in nature and will offer different experiences, all my Overwatch buddies are also going to play Quake Champions. Trust me, Quake Champions will get big.
>>341578749
Overwatch won't fail because a lot of Blizzard audience will keep playing it. Quake Champions will give alternative gameplay experience to a more adult and serious player base.
Also, Quake Champions will become a big E-Sport and Overwatch will NEVER become a big E-Sport.
Why?
1. 20 tickrate.
2. Favor the shooter system.
>>341578901
Maybe. Very likely, yes.
But people are already bored of death matches. Which is why the genre is dead.
>>341578974
>people are bored of death match
>there is literally no good death match based game atm
Death match based games can become E-sport, there are just no games with modern quality that offer it, Quake Champions will.
>>341578903
>a game is only fun if it has a million player base
Can we stop this meme? Is Justin Bieber the best musician alive? Srsly who ever came up with this shit? In reality I prefer a smaller userbase over millions of bad players.
>>341578965
The game will die the moment Legion hits retail.
>>341577846
>Why Quake Champions WON'T succeed
It has no waifus to promote marketing
I'm not even joking, the public won't even know it's coming out
shut the fuck up BITCH
>>341579157
>fun
retard, he is talking about if it will fail. popularity IS a necessity for commercial success
>>341579375
>necessity for commercial success
and that is important for you because?
>>341577846
Meh, i don't like arena shooters. And since the resurrection of Wolfestein this is becoming something of a meme honestly. I'll stick to my Battlefield, thanks for your shitty taste overlook tho
>>341579137
Death Match games died BECAUSE people didn't care for them anymore.
There's only so much interest you can generate through that formula and by the late-90s that buzz was mostly gone.
>>341577846
Todd, go away. New Quake just like all Bethesda games doesn't require good reaction or aim from player, it will just another Overwatch-clone.
>>341579157
A bigger player base means more games, more variety of teams and probably a longer time for the dying game to stay playable
Nothing like music where you can listen to it whether others do or not
>>341579514
i honestly think it can come back...it's time...
>>341579157
I didn't say the game was or wasn't fun, i merely stated the obvious - Overwatch has a shitloads of players and it makes the money roll, it makes the tournaments appear, even if it isn't a hypercompetitive pro game. New Quake won't have a huge playerbase and if it's "succesfull", it'll be more of a SC2 succesfull, not SC:GO succesfull.
>there are just no games with modern quality that offer it, Quake Champions will.
>published by Bethesda'>good quality of gameplay
Shill, please.
>>341577846
It's shit. The balance is worse than dota2.
>>341577962
Nah it's not, it's a Stillborn clone (as in heavily PvE focused)
Anyway, what matters is it's too complicated for casuals.
Can't lie, I like the idea of having a choice to more suit your playstyle and give you individual power rather than being fucked by hard counters but playing better than other players will always make you win.
>>341577846
Quake is a game where is really difficult to keep up with the pros. Casuals will drop it unlike Overwatch where just oressing a button grants them easy kills
>>341579883
And here is come another shill.
>all these salty blizzcucks
afraid your game is dying faster?
>>341579717
>publishers develop the games
heh
>>341579883
>Press Q to win
>>341580027
Publisher always ordering how exactly game should be made and Bethesda wants to make games for casual market only.
>>341580137
>casual market only.
not true
>>341577846
>with Champions having unique attributes and abilities
How can these retards fuck up Quake this badly?
>Your face when you stop playing overwatch for a moment and play quake champions to see what all the fuzz is about and you realize how shit your aim and skills are.
>Your face when no Q to win
>>341579804
You have no clue what you are talking about, kill yourself shill.
>>341580321
>Your face when you realize pushing a cart is not a skill
>Your face when you realize the only appeal to overwatch were the waifu.
>>341577846
>with Champions having unique attributes and abilities
And another great game fucked up by some trendy moba shit.
Back to playing with fucking poles in qlive, meh.
>>341580247
THE ABILITIES AND ATTRIBUTES ARE MINOR DUMB FUCK, CAN YOU READ? GET CANCER.
>Quake
>with classes
already exists, it's called Team Fortress and was a mod.
>>341580646
>I have no idea what I am talking about the post
Wait and see the gameplay dumb fuck, Quake Champions will dominate.
>>341580532
>Your face when you can't fall back on your teammates carry and all responsibility falls on your lack of skill.
>Your face when you can't unlearn these facts.
It's time to end it.
>>341580717
>shilling so hard
>>341580665
IT ISN'T CLASS BASED YOU SUBHUMAN NIGGER WHORE.
WEAPONS AND PICKUPS ARE OPEN FOR ALL. THE CHARACTERS OFFER A SMALL TWIST ON GAMEPLAY.
>>341577846
source for all this?
>>341580717
Should I judge it by trailer? It was GODAWFUL, that shaft usage made me cringe a bit.
>>341580807
This
>>341580764
>having an IQ this low and being a herd mentality nigger "hurr durr moba shit"
KILL YOURSELF ASAP.
>>341577846
Whatever. As long as i can get into matches that has railgun jumps enabled.
>>341577846
Arena shooters are dead for good, and for a good reason. The evolution of the genre is only natural, it all started with Doom and the pinacle of the genre is Battlefield. You have to let it go, man
>>341580989
>Battlefield
>arena shooter
???????????????????????????????
>>341577846
They need more waifu to complete with OW.
I'm sure it will be amazing bethestashill.
As fun and popular as DOOM® multiplayer. Man DOOM® multiplayer sure is great.
>>341580807
>>341580954
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-6fQyNkZo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=545l1WQ-sLU
Listen carefully to what he says and stop spreading meme cancer.
Why did Overwatch fail to be a good MOBA and fps? I can understand failing to be a good fps since it's the first time blizzard has ever made one but failing to make a good MOBA??? Are you kidding me?!?!!
>>341581041
go away waifu cuck.
>>341581038
Are you retarded? The genre is FPS, not Arena FPS.
>>341581064
I don't play DOOM, DOOM was focused on SP, wasn't designed for MP or E-SPORT.
Quake Champions only has MP and is designed for world class E-sport.
Get a clue before you spread your cancer subhuman nigger shill.
>>341581041
No, keep the waifus in Overwatch.
>>341580959
Only after you Todd.
But thank you you really make me think about buying Overwatch or returning into TF2 or UT.
>>341581217
>Quake Champions only has MP and is designed for world class E-sport.
Nope it's designed for "We want Overwatch audience".
>>341581107
Overwatch is good for what it is supposed to be: a HEAVILY TEAM FOCUSED, HERO COUNTER FOCUSED, OBJECTIVE FOCUSED, fps game that diminishes individual skill.
The only problems with it are 20 tick rate and favour the shooter system (favour the cancer). If overwatch had 120 tickrate and didn't use this favour the cancer system so you could actually sidestep abilities and shits, it would be much better and have a higher skillcap.
So much blizzard shilling here. OW is boring broken and unbalanced. DEAL WITH IT.
>>341581041
No Crash no buy
>>341581107
Same way CS:GO failed to be a good 4x strategy game.
>>341581356
>OW is boring broken and unbalanced.
So just like any game published by Bethesda.
>>341577846
Where is the source for any of this?
>>341581314
No it isn't, I play Overwatch and the concepts of the game are too different.
Overwatch is not an arena shooter.
Quake Champions is an arena shooter.
Overwatch is not an individual skill matters game.
Quake Champions is an individual skill matters game.
Overwatch is heavily focused on objective gameplay.
Quake Champions is heavily focused on death match gameplay.
Overwatch is heavily focused on counters.
Quake Champions isn't.
Overwatch has locked in weapons.
Quake Champions has weapons and pickups available to all.
Overwatch doesn't care about 1v1 balance between heroes.
Quake Champions will focus on 1v1 balance between the characters.
They offer two different gameplays, all my Overwatch friends and myself included will instantly buy Quake Champions and play the shit out of it.
>>341581107
>calling overwatch a moba
jesus christ
>>341581225
Buy Overwatch retard, I don't give a fuck, I've bought it as well and play it, it offers different gameplay and the concept of the game is totally different to what Quake Champions will be.
>>341581080
What I am hearing is
>mechanical differences between characters.
Meaning that some will be objectively better thant others.
And that some maps will favor some characters.
It will not be minor. It will not be perfectly balanced for 1 on 1.
>>341581575
>No it isn't, I play Overwatch and the concepts of the game are too different.
So you must know that there is no games published by Bethesda with good gameplay, so away shill.
>>341581542
Watch and listen carefully: >>341581080
>>341581706
Sure shill.
but does it have waifus
shit can't succeed without those now
>>341581686
>publishers design the game
Kill yourself asap meme autist.
>>341581608
but that's what it is.
>dead franchise
>niche, outdated gameplay
>bethesda
>pc exclusive
>no single player
>muh esports
kek. thanks for the laugh bruh. Quake Championz will be the next Battleborn
>>341581686
Doom SP has fantastic gameplay you silly cunt
>>341581850
Shill, name at least 5 games published by angry manlet with good gameplay.
>>341581874
Please stop shitposter-kun
Find some purpose in your life
>>341581930
Eh, it was okay.
>>341581686
Dishonored has a pretty good gameplay.
>>341581850
>publishers have no say and love taking risks
you have to be 18 to post here, kid.
>>341581930
>Doom SP has fantastic gameplay you silly cunt
For gamepad.
People don't seem to notice the huge reason why Overwatch is a success is because it'is not heavy on system requirements. A lot of people with toaster can play it.
Normie's easily forgotten Doom because a lot people can't play it on high. most of the popular games on twitch don't require a $400 gpu.
>>341582014
>Dishonored'
Nope, game was super-easy with lack of replayability and broken spells and combat-system. Literally "baby's first Thief/Stealth"
>>341581919
We will see, retard. Battleborn was a cancer game full of SJW and autistic cancer mixing pve with pvp.
Don't compare Quake Champions, in the trailer we saw an SJW female thinking she can be a man getting BTFO in the face. Quake Champions doesn't have autism or PvE, it will dominate and there is nothing you can do about it.
>>341582006
you first mate
>>341582014
It's fun and well designed but too easy
I hope the sequel kicks it up a notch
>>341582082
People forgot Doom because it was just average Halo.
>>341582082
Wow that confirms it. OW players are bottom feeding pleabians.
How poor do you have to be to not be able to afford a gtx 1070. Literally console peasants.
out of 12 images in this thread, 5 are wojacks and 3 are frogs
what is going on, we're talking about Quake vs Overwatch, this is video games board, not suicide hotline
>>341582124
Broken though it may be, the gameplay itself is good.
That you can break the game with it is testament of that.
>>341579514
>late-90's
i think yoiu mean mid-2000's because the late 90s was litteraly the highest point of its popularity (see: Quake 3 and Unreal Tournament)
>>341582169
I'm not the one spamming frog and sadman.jpeg
>>341577846
>>Quake Champions is an ARENA BASED, DEATH MATCH BASED, FPS, with Champions having unique attributes and abilities
They should not release one video if they gonna emphasize anything from your list otherwise we can watch Quake pull salto battleborn. If what you wrote is true they did not see, much less play, quake.
By staying quiet they could at least cheat some of hard core fans of franchise into buying the game.
>>341578815
Being this mad
>>341582160
I look forward to your tears as your shitty game noone is intrested in or even asked for flops.
made me happy when he said the game was "made for pc" haha its the first shooter in years without focus on accessibiloty to console babbies. i think it'll be as popular as CS:GO
>>341581575
Sound a lot like Battleborn arguments when we pointed out that there will be no players since Overwatch is going to release free beta on same day.
My guess ? Five new heroes and free trial period for Overwatch on the day when Quake is released.
>>341582932
>this shill
LOL
>>341582932
The difference is, battleborn is a SJW cancer game abomination that thinks it is a good idea to implement PvE elements in a PvP game.
>>341582660
You will look forward to dying from aids faggot as you watch Quake Champions dominate the scene, nigger.
TEN
MILLION
ACTIVE
PLAYERS
>>341583331
What was the name of that one Evolve shill? You act just the same.
>>341583273
>battleborn is a SJW cancer game
This one is new...
I think it will flop big time. Maybe not on game sales but will almost certainly fail to attract steady player audience to become anything relevant; AND THAT KILLS MULTIPLAYER BASED GAME !
Its gone too far into casual realm that is filled with money grabbing garbage.
Ill pirate it (if possible-->denuvo is still there) and wait for month to see who is going to play after that period.
its going to have the playerbase and quake live and the fun of unreal champions
>>341577846
>Game not even out
>Already reasoning why it'll succeed by comparing it to Overwatch
Can't wait for BattleQuake to come out.
>>341584913
>>341577846
i refuse to believe it could fail. if it costs money i guarantee at least half a million sold, maybe even more if it doesn't turn out disappointing (keep in mind, doom 4 sold 600 thousand in its first month pc alone and it was barely above average). if its free to play i guarantee at least a million will try it. wont die either if it succeeds in what it promises in the e3 video, being movement exploits and suggestively weapon pickups with NEW maps to accompany that (im fucking tired of campgrounds and aerowalk god dammit they are ported to EVERY SINGLE FPS THEIR IDENTITIES ARE FUCKED TO HELL AND BACK BECAUSE ITS ALWAYS THE SAME). the other fluff is just a way to pull in new players i guess but hopefully isn't the be all end all of balancing in the game. wish for the best for the quake title
>>341586980
Yeh, it will be good.
>>341587462
you cant say that yet you muff
>>341580773
>WALLHACK
>SMALL
nice try, todd
>>341580989
No, the logical conclusion is cod.
bf is another genre at this point.
>>341587708
>Wallhack lasted 2 seconds, gave a information edge, that is all. We do not know the cooldown, resource or how the ability will be accessed at all.
Abilities can be good if done well, not like Overwatch where you give global wallhack to your entire team for 2 minutes.
Kill yourself subhuman nigger shill.
>>341587994
>game A does something horribly
>game B does something horribly, but a tad bit less
>this is supposed to be good
moba-fps babbies
not even once
>>341587994
>Wallhack lasted 2 seconds, gave a information edge
and visor killed both ranger and mynx
small indeed.
Literally a quakeified overwatch.
i'm ok with quake being slightly more noob friendly if it means quake comes back in to the spot light
>>341588242
>2v1 mynx and ranger don't cover eachother by looking at opposite directions to avoid flanks
>shitters being terrible getting rekt
And nothing wrong happened, they deserved to get raped, git gud motherfucking nigger.
>>341588684
It will be like souls shit. Custom server for the vanilla quake experience will shit on normal player, calling them casual.
le charismatic heroes arena game xDD
>>341589185
could have been better, but its still much better than fat chicks
>>341589185
Unreal Cucknemant on suicide watch, stay cucked trying to develope a game for free for Jews, nobody cares.
>>341590369
>cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck cuck
>>341589185
Where's fucking Crash?
>>341580653
>hi! Im Dense shill Pajeet! Give me shekels, Bethesda!
>>341591825
The only shills here are you naysayers, get cancer.
>>341581041
>we totally need more tumblr-designed wiafus guise!
Eat shit, degenerate nigger.
>>341578892
Blizzard is like the Apple of gaming in every aspect. They never are the first to do something but manage to do it in a more attractive and user friendly way, manage to sell said thing as innovative, and carries a huge brand loyalty.
Everyone tries to take them down because in the eyes of the majority of consumers they are the golden standard which is used to measure all others. Everyone wants that kind of reputation.
>>341581575
Champs can't be a balanced arena shooter when you make character based abilities, you dumbfuck.
A balanced 1v1 enviroment like you are parroting IMPLIES good level design, good item placement and neutraly-designed characters, so people playing can win by means of PLAYING and PRACTICING the god damn game, not PICKING OBLIGATORY CLASS TO WIN.
but since your generation its more concerned with Tumblr-ripoff waifus you wouldn't know.
>>341577846
I thought the whole point of Quake was that you didn't have any of this "champion" bullshit and everyone was on an equal playing field.
Am I wrong? I've only played Quake 1 and 2 singleplayer but those are my impressions from watching videos and listening to some reviews
>>341582160
I cant believe the community has degenerated into "muh wominz getting owned, soo cool, soo edgy anti-sjw's".
I am not defending this fucking game though, it can bomb for all i care (and it will actually do), but please, use and actual fucking ARGUMENT next time you post.
take a game that was popular with FPS arena tourneyfags because they gotta go fast pick up dem power-ups deny dat map access rocket launch yo ass screaming across the map at 300 frames per second while strafing in midair to avoid incoming fire
make it an Overwatch clone with 20 tickrate and 'Champion' characters...because apparently there were characters in Quake? I only seem to remember Carmack's autism being the defining characteristic of the game. Carmack HATED having any whiff of story in his video games. He just wants epic gibs in intricate maps. Oh yeah, the maps will be dumbed down, too.
...seems like a great decision from Zenithesda!
>>341593637
they already said the game will have 128 tick mate and the best netcode.
>>341593759
don't believe Todd's lies!
>>341577846
>The game is designed to be a big E-Sport
And that's where the game fails.
>>341593828
but Todd has nothing to do with the game.
>all these years and STILL no sequel to Quake 1's single player
>>341593623
Eath shit feminzed cancer, get out of the gaming community, you never belonged here and never will, go back to the atheism community and suck those SJW strong womans off, you beta faggot.
>>341593637
...Oh, right, Bethesda owns Quake now.
I was mildly interested until that reminder, but I don't play bethesdashit.
>>341579443
Read the op you god damn fool, this is a thread about the success of the quake game.
>>341595771
>bethesda
Can this meme end? It is id software you mong.
>Why Quake Champions will succeed
>The game is designed to be a big E-Sport
I've got bad news for you, anon
>>341578535
not him but the only shill here is you. try harder scrub
>>341598283
Yeah, that. Build a good game and then worry about whether people want to play it like a pseudo-sport.
