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Are PS4 fans ok with Sony OWNED games ported to the PC ?
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"The first software title ... will be console exclusive to PlayStation 4."
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To sum up, it's been confirmed that

>Sony owns the IP.
>It's console exclusive.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=annuTcmB1rw
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It's full %100 exclusive, confirmed by Kojima and Andrew House themselves.
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no, and im going to start a petition to remove it from PC, just like we tried to do with GTA5

https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-dont-make-a-pc-version-of-gta-v
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did you know that all games are made on PCs?
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>>341553754
>confirmed

when ? the official youtube announcement says console exclusive.
I think House is going to use the "it's a Kojima game" excuse to stealth port a PS4 gam on the PC.
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STRANDING HERE
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>>341553950
Really? Thought they were made on the latest iPhones.
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>>341553382
PC is not as relevant in the grand scheme of things as you think.
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What is even making you think this will go to PC I don't understand
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>>341553382
>poster doesn't list PC
>"confirmation" of the PC version was from some mistranslated article
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>>341553382
>STRANTING
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>>341554140
>PC is not as relevant

that is poor reasoning. House is planning to pull a fast one in front of their eyes and PS4 buyers are just standing there.
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>have to buy a stupid $300 childs toy eventually to play two games

can we just get past this with video gaming please
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>>341553498
IT KEEPS HAPPENING
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>>341554503
competition is healthy, grow up and join the idorts anon
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>>341554281
>What is even making you think

video description
>The first software title created by the newly formed Kojima Productions will be console exclusive to PlayStation 4.
>console exclusive
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>>341554690
Console competition should strictly be about the consoles themselves, not the franchises they hold hostage.
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>>341553382
it'll be funny if it isn't because of pc asspain

and it'll be nice if it does because more people can enjoy it and it might make more money depending on how many pcfriends pira8 it
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For anyone who is actually unaware of what's gone down regarding this, here's what's actually known with any retarded spin or fanboyism from NeoFAG or /r/pcmasterrace refugees on it.

Kojima was unveiled by Andrew House as reforming Kojima Production and making a new game, which would be "console exclusive" (So presumably Sony were chipping in enough money to development costs to keep it off the Xbone). Nothing regarding publishers, personnel or anything is discussed. The next day, a community manager from Sony Europe put up a Q&A, one of the answers in which was saying that the game had a timed exclusivity period and that they were planning a PC port at some stage afterwards. However, the entire Q&A was taken down only a few hours later and when someone asked the community in question what the deal with this was, he said that he'd been asked to take it down by his higher-ups.

Nothing more regarding any of this is heard until E3 this year, where it turns out that SIE are publishing it and Sony own the trademark for the IP (As well as Mark Cerny, a high-level Sony employee, being involved with the development), so the possibility of Sony having since decided to fully fund the game in return for legitimate exclusivity may exist, but at this stage as others have said, it's far too early to tell what the story is.
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Now that Kadokawa owns From Software, expect their Sony collaborations to be "console exclusives" as well.

I think Hideo Kojima learned the importance of PC as a platform for software archival once MGS4 became completely irrelevant to anyone without a PS3
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>>341553382
WHOA WHOA HOLD FUCK UP
look at his necklace
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I'm ok with it. Kinda sad seeing pcucks licking xfats' feet because of all the W10 nonsense.
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>>341555031
The difference is PS4 is the best selling console right now where as the PS3 was not.

Idiot.
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>>341554854
>not the franchises they hold hostage.

this "total biscuit" line is possibly the most blatantly retarded thing ever said in gaming.
people paying other people to create something: hold hostage.
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>>341554854
Games sell consoles dummy. Death Stranding isn't being held hostage. Seriously, stop this pc/console war stuff. If PC or etc was the only one left, the market would get lazy and stagnate. Idort for life.
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>Mark Cerny, the guy who literally designed the PS4 is working on it

Yeah there's no way this is coming to PC anymore
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>people literally advocate for the fragmentation of video games so their corporate team won't "lose"

I'm glad consoles are dying.
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Sony now completely owns the IP and is publishing yet somehow this is coming to PC

Holy fuck just give up lmao, the sheer desperation.
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>>341554281
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>>341554071
Cerny is insupercharge sounds like kojipro with japanstudio backup,and probably new kojipro getting help from various sony 1st party. Remember his tour
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>>341555494
Cerny is the one that announced that it would be coming to the PC
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>>341555504
The reason exclusives game even exist in the first place is because manufactures can afford to make them with funds acquired by console sales.

You are a total fucking moron
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>>341555005
>a community manager from Sony Europe put up a Q&A

I know that and it sounds fake as hell to be honest. BUT it doesn't change that fact that Sony right now OWNS the IP and is NOT referring to the game as PS4 exclusive as they do with other gamer like Horizon.
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>>341555616
What? Mark "The PS4 is a super-charged PC!" Cerny never said this, the PC information comes from the Q&A with Sony's European community manager.
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>>341554854
> nogaems multplat box
>pc when! game hostages
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>>341555719
>it's an exclusives literally keep video games alive post
no
If that were true, we wouldn't have the A & AA.
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>>341553382
thank god, I hate using my PS4 for gaming

>are PS4 fans okay
yes, it's my blu ray box so it's on my big screen tv
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>>341555031
>importance of PC as a platform
Lmao, how can idiots actually believe this
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>>341555841
no SIE game ever comes to another platform. you can look at the list.
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>>341555616
source ?

>>341555581
that's fake as hell.
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>>341555973
Helldivers did.
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>>341554854
If console users didn't buy games, there'd be nothing but F2P mobile-style garbage left on PC. I don't get why PCfags don't realize this.
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>>341555973
Planetside
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>>341556149
wow, helldivers. sure is relevant. out of all the blockbuster huge games of all time that SIE has handled, helldivers came out!

>>341556218
made to be a pc game to begin with in order to try to give the game a living community, sort of a different thing
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>>341555504
You do realize that console makers are often the ones funding the exclusives being made, right? Like if Nintendo hadn't paid for Bayonetta 2, it's not that it would've come out on PC, it wouldn't have happened period.

I don't understand why people get so butthurt about it, they seem like idiots who think every developer has infinite money to make and port everything
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>>341553382
Dude, this isn't news. Kojima and House said this back when they first announced that Kojima was making a new game
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>>341556335
I think that shitty walking simulator Everybody's gone to the rapture did, or was at least supposed to
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>>341556380
it doesn't cost anything to "port" games this generation. and probably never again.
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>>341556380
>it wouldn't have happened period.
>what is finding another publisher
It's not like Platinum are short on funds anyway.
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i could just watch an episode of the walking dead if i wanted to see sexy redneck man tv show, so no big loss. same as quantum break.
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>>341555973
>no SIE game ever comes to another platform.

sure but as I said above Sony is NOT referring to this game as a full exclusive, how they refer to horizon for instance. If they agreed on full exclusivity they wouldn't miss the opportunity.

And my theory for that is that House is going to use the "it's a Kojima game" excuse to stealth port a PS4 game on the PC. In other words PS4 gamers will pay for a mutliplat (PS - PC) game.
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There is literally nothing wrong with exclusives, competition is a good thing
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>>341556615
>sexy redneck man
Is there something you want to tell us anon?
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>>341556639
Honestly, if MS games do well on Windows 10, there's no doubt Sony will follow atleast somewhat.
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>>341553382
PC doesn't deserve this game, they're just going to steal it anyway.
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>>341553382
The vast majority of "PS4 fans" wouldn't give a shit about whether or not a game shows up on another system. It's only closed-off enclaves like this which fetishize exclusives.
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>>341556461
What actually was the deal with Rapture? It was a PC exclusive, then a PS4 exclusive, then went back to the PC a few months later.
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>>341556818
>if MS games do well on Windows 10

yeah about that
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One of Kojima's conditions may have been that it had to come out on PC. I can see this as a possibility because he loves 4k 60 fps stuff, and that just won't be possible on Neo with the same fidelity he'd get on PC
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>>341556553
No one besides Nintendo offered to publish it.
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>>341556886
You know what I mean.
Steam.
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>>341556672
My only problem with exclusives is the fact that it holds the game technically back, and it makes digital archival a bitch. MGS4 may as well have not even happened to the people who don't have a PS3

>>341556818
Why would Sony put their games on a platform that Microsoft owns? That's why Microsoft is doing it, they literally own Windows.
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Nothing wrong with exclusives. If you want the game buy the platform. I don't like anything about the 3ds but I still bought it for monhun.

Having said that I don't really care if some games go to pc. The more people that can experience Bloodborne the better, that game is fucking fantastic.
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>>341556981
>>341556976
pc in general.
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>>341556976
uh no that isn't what you mean since xbox games are only coming out on windows 10 store

know what you are talking about, don't rely on me knowing what you are talking about for you.

oh, BTW, Rise of Tomb Raider sold 98% of its PC copies on steam. Windows store effectively doesn't exist.

But that's MS' problem, not due to lack of interest
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>>341556820
What the fuck is this meme of hardware userbases "deserving" games? Do you think that Sony is like "If you PC users are good little boys and girls, we'll port this game over to your system."?
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>>341556818
I can see maybe their smaller games developed by indies that they publish going on PC like they did with Helldivers but you will never see anything like Uncharted or God of War or Bloodborne there
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>>341553382
>Console exclusive
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>>341553382

If Sony put up the money to make the thing, then Sony can do whatever they want with it as far as I'm concerned.

If they release it on PC, great. But if they don't then I'll just have to suck it up.
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>>341555952
/v/ is now full of r/pcmasterrace kiddies huffing their own farts.

Fanboys of any console are dumbfucks, but PC fanboys make it even more cancerous by pretending that they're 'saving gaming' when 95 percent of the pc market are normies playing assfaggots and CS:GO
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>>341557095
Still supporting Microsoft unless you're talking a Linux/Mac exclusive (at that point, don't even fucking bother lol)
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>>341556672
Personally I wish the competition was based on hardware power, price, extra features, stability, etc but it is what it is.
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>>341557129
I just meant pc sales in general.
>>341557141
Sonyggers being sonyggers
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>>341556639

Look at t this way, ''SIE Presents'' = Sony owns the IP and is publishing but that's not even important.

Kojima can choose to keep his game as his own property and port the game to PC for steam sales, or, he can give Sony the rights and instantlly have access to an incredible amount of tools and resources from SCE Word Wide Studios and they will publish, market, fund and work alongside him to develop his vision, oh and Mark Cerny will also just happen to join the project.

Why would he pass up that opportunity just to cheap out with some steam sales?
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>Are PS4 fans okay with Sony OWNED games ported to PC.
Not really, but Sony paid for it to happen. When Bayonetta 2 was saved by Nintendo I defended their right to exclusivety. I don't know why this concept is foreign to PC gamers.

Ips happen because publishers are willing to fund them.
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>>341557282
>Still supporting Microsoft
Money is money.
Steam sales wouldn't support MS anyhow.
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>>341557380
>oh and Mark Cerny will also just happen to join the project

after "Knack" his star can't shine any brighter!
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>>341556380
>>341557386
>Bayo 2
Years later, I'm still amused.

>>341556553
Quite literally no one except Ninty was willing to commit to funding it.
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>>341556956
>One of Kojima's conditions may have been that it had to come out on PC.

That's even worse. Kojima is making a game with the help of Sony studios, meaning it's indirectly funded by PS4 gamers who give their money to SIE. And that game will end up on the PC. Text book definition of being cucked.

>>341556860
>The vast majority of "PS4 fans" wouldn't give a shit about whether or not a game shows up on another system

that's diplomatic bullshit. playstation always had many noteworthy exclusives. people buy the console with the promise of exclusive games.
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>competition is good
The competition is other video games
There's literally no reason for a game to be exclusive
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>>341557545
Oh, a game that tried to reinstate the importance of action platformers that turned out to be pretty mediocre completely defiles his record as an industry leader. Nah
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>>341556105
It was taken down. I'm guessing he published old or incorrect info. Looks like it'll be an exclusive. Disappointing, but oh well.
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>>341557758
>The competition is other video games
But Anon that would mean they would have to make good games. Are you crazy?
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>>341557380

>Sony owns the IP
>Kojima can choose to keep his game as his own property

are you retarded ?
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>>341554498
I don't care if other people play this video game.

As long as my platform is getting it, that's all I care about.
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>>341553754
his brother andrew mansion said its exclusive to ps4
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>>341557884
Are you illiterate?
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They are only selling the first as console exclusive because Sony probably didn't have the money to outright by KojiPro, guarantee by his second game he's purchased and a first party.
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>>341557870
You're right, how could I be so foolish
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>>341557758
>The competition is other video games
And sometimes you hear these people in a board meeting asking each other what will be the next "Halo killer." Or the next "God of War" killer. These are just examples.

But that's competition in a nutshell.
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>>341557836
I don't really see mark cerny as an industry leader. He directed games like crash and spyro which were never good or relevant

They're cherished by a generation because they're the generic game that everyone from your generation played. Not because of extensive value.

Mark Cerny: Probably better than other people of his era at programming 3d platforming controls.

That's about it.
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>>341557758
So should Nintendo port every Wii U game they make to PC/PS4/XBone and deliberately destroy any reason to buy their console? You can argue that might be nice, but it'd be a retarded idea for them to actually do it
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>>341553382
>Hideo Kojima

So it's going to be unfinished, repetitive, overbloated, and only shoved out the door because the people actually funding and making the game say 'cut your bullshit' and force it to be released.
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>>341558218
>All Cerny did was help make games
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I'm going to form a Weezer cover band with Mark Cerny!
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>>341558272
Isn't Nintendo dying as is
Or are ambios that profitable
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>Silent Hills was coming to PC before it got cancelled
>Kojima has become a PC fanboy since he played MGR:R and then ported MGSV
>new title was already said to be coming to PC and PS4 before it was announced at E3
>"n-no it'll be just for us....please...."
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>>341558421
>Or are ambios that profitable
They wouldn't keep making new ones otherwise.
Also Pokemon Go is probably going to net them some decent shekels in more than one way.
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>>341558218
>crash
>never good or relevant
Crash was the only Western platformer that was positively received by a Japanese audience during its time. Granted it's been standing in limbo owned by Activision. For its time that's pretty impressive.
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>>341558481
You forgot
>sony now owns the rights to the game and is publishing it thus ps4 exclusive
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>>341558481
If he's under contract, there's nothing he can do.
It really depends if Sony came to him or he came to Sony.
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>>341556493
Hahaha. Oh wait you're serious. Let me laugh even harder. HAHAHAHAHA
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>>341558015
IP means intellectual property.
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>>341558421
Nintendo's still making a profit, and they have a gigantic warchest of billions of dollars. Just because they're in last place doesn't mean they're dying, just means they're not making money hand over fist anymore like they were in the SNES era
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>>341553382
What's up with this one faggot who puts a space before the question mark?
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>>341553382
What you seem to be missing here, is this is just like what is going on with From, From isn't tied down to just Sony, Bloodborne was. He'll make games for other platforms it just won't be this one.
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>>341558409
Dear Sony
I write you
In spite of desperate shilling
You cleaned up
Found Kojima
Things are good or so I hear
This trailer
With Reedus
Awakens ancient feelings
Like father
Konami
The game is drowning in the sales
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>>341553382
Going by past experience if it's published by Sony and it's not an MMO it isn't coming to PC.
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Who cares? Sony already has a presence in the PC market as Sony Online Entertainment.
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>>341558538
i just dont see it as relevant in gaming history.

tell me where 3d platforming ever went after being a "make these games and make money" thing on playstation 1 2 and 3

its gone. and it never resulted in other things growing like other lost genres like 2d platforming or true FPS

just a dead end genre and i'm being honest that i think they only matter to a plurality of you becuase you played them when you were young.
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why would anybody care if ps4 games get ported to pc?
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>when PCucks or xniggers get a game that's on YOUR platform
this sucks so fucking much. only sonybros should get to play kojima games.
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>>341558481
Where do you get the Silent Hills coming to PC bit from? I'm honestly curious, since PT was a PS4 thing and never appeared on PC
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>>341558481
>Kojima has become a PC fanboy

that's a lie. MGR and MGSV was all Konami.
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>>341558606
>>341558625
then I guess it's less of a sure thing.
Sony is less distanced from PC now than they used to be though to be fair.
They financed SFV which launched on PC with crossplay, they marketed the DS4 as being PC compatible, they're doing the PS4 streaming on PC and I wouldn't be surprised if they saw Microsoft doing that crossplay thing as a threat.

MS and Sony don't seem to see PC as competition anymore, they both want PC on their side, because it's becoming really common for people to have a console and a gaming computer (even if it's just a toaster/laptop)
That's why PC got both Killer Instinct and SFV, because both brands will play nice with PC but not each other.
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>>341557758
Sony likes having money. That's reason enough.
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>>341559002
not that it matters anymore but several people involved in the project said there'd be a PC version and internal emails at Konami confirmed its existence.

If you go back and check all mentions and marketing for Silent Hills, they never once said it was PS4 exclusive.

Again, kind of pointless now that it isn't coming out on anything.
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>>341554101
pffft, you think they really code on those things? nope.
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>>341559014
>MS and Sony don't seem to see PC as competition
Kind of funny considering they spent years trying to DC resolution and framerate.
And then VR
and then the new consoles after only 3 years.
But yeah, it's better to join rather than try to fight.
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>>341559014
Steam on consoles when?
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>>341558538
>crash shows up
>its sky landers shit
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>>341554101
Then they would be exclusive to iPhone, you toadfucking niggernogging faggot. All games are mode on their respective platforms.
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>>341559304
years ago
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>>341559014
>They financed SFV

marketing is not financing. the rest of your post is plain stupid.
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>>341559304
this would actually make me buy a console sooner.
One of the things I don't like about consoles is that you generally have to rebuild your library every generation.

If I bought a XBO/PS4 and got even just a handful of steam games I already owned it would make it way more attractive to me.
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>>341555193
i dont get this. if they were REALLY just going to use him completely stock, why not fmv it. in this case it would ACTUALLY make sense. instead its just him, looking uglier?

wheres the giant fucking horns growing out of his head or ANYTHING that would make this worth cgiìng over fmv?
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>>341558928
That company is no longer known as Sony Online Entertainment
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>>341559014E
It makes sense, since although home built thousand buck gaming computers are still really uncommon, everyone needs a pc, even if it's just a toaster laptop. I mostly play on consoles because my computer is garbage, but I've still double dipped on some games like Revengeance
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>>341554690
Obviously the video game market is still dictated by people who game on one platform, see multiplats. Western games are multiplatform because some people only have playstations, some people only have xboxes, and some people only have PCs. Meanwhile Japanese games are PS exclusive because the Japanese don't game on anything else.

If everything is exclusive, nothing is.
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>2016
>a console exclusive

please grow up and buy a PC
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>>341559387
they literally said SFV wouldn't exist without Sony.
Sony helped fund development.
http://www.inquisitr.com/1663537/xbox-head-on-street-fighter-v-playstation-4-exclusivity-its-a-business-decision/
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>>341559387
you seem to forget how poor capcom are.
not even SF can sustain them.
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>>341559387
Sony chipped in quite a bit to development costs for SFV to keep it off the Xbone (Though they didn't entirely fund it, hence why it's on the PC). Capcom said they more than likely couldn't have afforded to make the game entirely by themselves for years if it wasn't for Sony contributing some coin.
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>>341559338
>they're remaking 3 Crash games.
>t-this is a good thing r-right?
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The fact that the game is published by Sony leads me to believe that it is almost certainly a PS4 exclusive. At the very least it indicates Sony has complete control over what platforms the game releases on and it would be very strange for them to release it on PC when they haven't done that in a long time.
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>>341556010
HES BACK.
AND ABOUT TIME TOO!
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>>341559338
>i didnt hear anything the guy said before the skylanders trailer showed up
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>>341558989
>this sucks so fucking much. only sonybros should get to play kojima games.

a ton of moronic posts and one guy that gets it.
House is screwing his customers to get a better deal for himself. It's a Sony owned game but at the same time he lets Kojima port it on the PC because he can play the "a Hideo Kojima game" card, and pretend he couldn't keep Kojima from porting the game.
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>>341559872
This is why I don't get the anger about exclusives. I don't own a Wii U so I can't play Bayo 2 right now, but I'm still happy that it exists rather then never being funded, so that I can play it at some point in the future. It honestly just seems like the kinda thing a child would complain about
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>>341553834
>no, and im going to start a petition to remove it from PC, just like we tried to do with GTA5
>https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-dont-make-a-pc-version-of-gta-v
>>341553834
but why?
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Timed exclusive or not, most of the sales will be on PS4 and not on PC. Even when games come to PC at the same time, they rarely, if ever, match console numbers. Often times, sales numbers go PS>Xbox>PC. The fact that PC is the least selling platform is the same reason why PC ports are often mere after thoughts, the same reason why PC versions come later, and the same reason why games outright don't show up on PC.

In short, there IS no "untapped market" on PC that's "free money". It's just a negligible amount of money they earn, and often times it's not enough. Ports of older games are hardly profitable, especially when you consider how long said game has been selling on console. Even if the port was literally free, the small sum of money they earn from a PC release is so minuscule, they might as well have kept it exclusive.
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>>341560873
Sonyggers are that kid that used to unplug your controller or turn off the game when he lost.
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>>341560513
Not sure if you're baiting or seriously retarded, but Kojima games have never been Sony exclusive. Metal Gear was on NES, Twin Snakes was on Gamecube, and MGS2 Substance was on Xbox
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PC users, you are really testing yourselves with how much never ever posting is going to be flung back at you, the moment new info comes out about this game it'll start and it won't stop.

This is of your doing and I say this as a PC user who has a PS4 specifically for games like this.
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>>341560963
Nice citations, /biz/.
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sony wins again!
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Why do people honestly care if it also gets ported to PC?

PC players are literally the minority compared to consoles. Even within the PC community not that many people have high end gaming PC's to begin with, so they are even a smaller margin compared to someone with just a regular PC that they occasionally try to game on.
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>>341559775
>>341559872
>>341559661

once again. marketing is not financing. all that bullshit you post is pure speculation. No sony studios helped with SF V, the only reason SF V is on PC is because Sony didn't pay Capcom more.
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>>341561171
>>341560963
It's pretty sad that fanboys care more about profitability and popularity than the actual quality of games to justify keeping them exclusive. Like it's legitimetely pathetic.
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>>341561171

>Why do people honestly care if it also gets ported to PC?
>PC players are literally the minority compared to consoles
They

They are the majority here though. The reason why people at least on here care about this game going to PC is the shitposting that'll occur if it gets ported but now we know it won't and it is a win for the discussion and the community that'll spawn from and for the game
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>>341561325
once again, they literally helped fund development, the game would not exist without Sony.
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>>341561017
>Not sure if you're baiting
>talks about Twin Snakes
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>>341561068
>This is of your doing
What is GTAV
What is MGSV

The Never ever shitposting was always instigated by console warrirors who overvalue exclusives. People like to meme about PC petitiosn but it's nowhere near as cancerous as the console warriors who literally petition to cancel ports and keep games exclusive to their platform. See: FFXIII and GTAV

I say this as a PS4 user who has been moving more and more towards PC specifically because of people like you. You have no one to blame but yourselves.
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>people didn't learn their lesson after V
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>>341561423
>The reason why people at least on here care about this game going to PC is the shitposting that'll occur if it gets ported

Oh boy am I ready for all the shitposting from PC users. I mean, it's not like we experience it every single day here.
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The trailer was missing the Playstation 4 Exclusive label found in every other E3 trailer for actual PS4 exclusives
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>>341554723
do you not know how to read or what? console exclusive means exclusive to consoles, in this case the PS4.
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>>341561090
Let me use one game, Arkham City. On PS3 alone, it sold 5.5 million copies. On PC, it sold a paltry 3 million. Bear in mind that the console versions have been available for purchase for a much shorter timeframe, while you can buy the PC version today. PC still sold less, and there's no telling if the majority of the sales were when the game was on a discount.

Let's try another game. Fallout 4 on PS4 sold 6.6 million copies. On PC it sold less than HALF that at 3.2 million copies. The Phantom Pain sold 3.25 million on PS4, while it didn't even break 1 million on PC. Sales discrepancies like these is the main reason why many companies don't care about PC.
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>>341561691
Oh the ironing.
Console users never induldge in shitposting literally every second of the day here they dindu nuffin he a good boy.
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>>341561497
>they literally helped fund development
>no citation

they didn't. you are insisting on stuff you made up based on a marketing deal.
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>There are people that still care about Kojima and his pretentious, self-indulgent attempts at making a "game" like Hollywood
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>>341561790
>Let me use one game, Arkham City
I'm gonna stop you right there.
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>>341561790
Do you think companies would rather sell less on PC but sell when it costs virtually 0 to port it to PC and let Steam handle the hosting and distribution or just not sell at all?
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>>341553382
so what is this game about anyway? Naked Norman Reedus holding a dead baby?
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>>341561090
Not him, but just go onto steam and look at whats on top of the charts. The lions share of it is DOTA 2 and CS:GO, with the only multiplat in the top 10 being Skyrim.
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Exclusivity is anti consumer, why would anyone other than a marketer or corporate share holder have problems with it?
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>>341561790
>On PC, it sold a paltry 3 million.
And it barely even started up, you think that's a good reason to not buy it?
also
>3 million
>""paltry""
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>>341561568
>I say this as a PS4 user

fag please.
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>He doesn't have a high end PC + PS4 + 3DS
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old news
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>>341562046
Aliens.
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>>341561567
Kojima still worked on Twin Snakes, even if you don't like it
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>>341562064
>a free game is played by a lot of people
Insightful as always, /biz/
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>>341561790
>Bear in mind that the console versions have been available for purchase for a much shorter timeframe
Except for the fact that it came out first and is still available for purchase. You're just lying out of your ass.

I like how THREE MILLION SALES of a console franchise is considered paltry because it was ported to PC. And how sales are used to literally discredit PC sales of a game as if used games and discounts don't exist for console games.
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>>341561831
So nothing changes here then.
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>>341562117
>If you disagree with me you must not own a PS4!
>meanwhile I'm a PC user shitposting about how PC deserves to be shitposted trust me guise

Fag please.
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>>341562157
>high end PC
>only to play console ports

PC is so worthless as a game platform, it's almost as if it's a joke.
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>>341562192
Don't forget the PC version had multiple technical issues that meant nobody could actually play it.
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>>341553382
Kojima went to Sony over other publishers because Sony are flexible

The funny thing about all you platform war idiots is that you have no clue how the industry works, Sony are happy that its both PC and PS4.
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There are already multiple Sony owned games on PC. Helldivers. Everybody's Gone To Rapture.
>>341561790
>3 million
>paltry
Considering I've seen companies be extremely happy with 30k sales of more niche games on PC I'm not sure that could be considered paltry.
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>>341562192
its juuuust 50% more profit. im the business major here, and i KNOW that 50% profit is pretttty minor!
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>>341562321
He went with them because of their past relationship. He even explained it in that one video, he even got other offers too.
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>>341562314
>this is what console-only fags actually believe
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>>341562509
Name ONE good PC exclusive

Just one

O N E

You can't
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>>341562672
Stronghold HD
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>>341562321
>Sony are happy that its both PC and PS4.

Self proclaimed internet analysts and pseudo ethical bullshit aside, if sony is indeed porting it on the PC they are screwing their costumers. They never said "buy my products so I can release games on the PC". That MS level of backstabbing.
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>>341562314
I like gaming on PC specifically because of multiplats and ports. Usually they are higher quality than any other version, and oftentimes these multiplats and ports come from various consoles. The PC has some Xbox One games. The PC has some Vita games. The PC has some PS4 games....And so on. When those consoles die and get replaced, ports and multiplats will continue coming to PC. So in the end the PC ends up with its own decent library of games from various different platforms, which I think is somewhat ideal. Its not perfect, but I find its a fantastic multiplat and port machine, so much so that its definitely a viable gaming platform. Its hardly worthless, even if you don't find much use for it.
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>>341562314
>it's almost as if it's a joke.
That's what the doctor said when you flopped out of your mother's dumb cunt. Your so worthless as a person the world would be better off without you in it.
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>>341562672
undertale
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>>341559363
No, they're all made on PCs.
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>>341562782
>if sony is indeed porting it on the PC they are screwing their costumers. They never said "buy my products so I can release games on the PC". That MS level of backstabbing.

Like fucking poetry.
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>>341562782
>they are screwing their costumers
They forcing VR into mostly all their games basically demanding a second $400 purchase.

Or should we talk about console life-spans now shortening so MS and Sony can now push out more consoles faster, forcing you to buy them?
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>>341562314
There are some good games which are PC exclusive, like Civ and Paradox stuff, it's just you usually don't need a super powerful rig to play them. It's why dropping a ton of money on a computer has never seemed that worth it to me, I don't really care if Civ 5 has slightly better textures or whatever, it's not something I play for the graphics
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>>341555841
>wearing t-shirt with a naked man
what a gay
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>>341553382

"console exclusive" 100% means its for PC as well. Otherwise they simply say exclusive.
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>>341562437
>Considering I've seen companies be extremely happy with 30k sales of more niche games on PC

Those companies are so happy with the numbers they got on PC, then they wouldn't keep being console first > port game to PC 8 years later. If Sega was so satisfied with their PC numbers, they wouldn't keep making games exclusive to the PS4. This is nothing more than PR speak saying "we got a nickel out of you, at least it's better than nothing", it doesn't mean "you guys are valuable, we'll focus on you more".
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>>341562672

Gone Home
Bad rats
Undertale
Microsoft Solitare Collection
Minesweeper
Dinner Date
Minecraft PC Edition
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>>341562672
When has this line of questioning ever resulted in anything but LMAO THOSE GAMES ARE SHIT or some variation thereof?

Why would anyone take you seriously?
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>>341562783
>So in the end the PC ends up with its own decent library of games
>ends up

the eternal petition master race. every tecmo koei game is being ported... apart from the ONE that matters and is not a muso game
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>>341562780
>>341562908
>>341563069
>good
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>>341563149
>I've never played Stronghold HD
I know sonygger, but you should.
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>>341563147
So you're cherrypicking. Got it.
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>>341559363
check this out. these are console dev kits, its what you actually test the shit you make.

pro-tip: note how they appear to be fucking computers
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>>341563147
>the eternal petition master race.

https://www.change.org/p/washington-post-remove-the-washington-post-review-from-uncharted-4-s-metascore
http://web.archive.org/web/20111119104312/http://www.petitiononline.com/capcompe/petition.html
https://www.change.org/p/rockstar-games-dont-make-a-pc-version-of-gta-v#share
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>>341563295
hmm, image might help
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>>341562974
>Like fucking poetry.

we are talking about a SIE owned IP.

>>341562996
>what a gay

not a gay
https://twitter.com/hideo_kojima_en/status/367894294322872320
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>>341559631
This
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>>341563410
I'm really amused by the Dev kit being just as XBOXHUEG as the actual console was
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>>341561872
>"game"
I'll remind you that MGS-V was mechanically excellent.
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>>341563482
>we are talking about a SIE owned IP.
You're talking about bringing a game to other platforms somehow screwing over their consumers. As if bringing a game to PC is literally backstabing the other people who bought it.

That's how badly your brain has been rotted by console war mentality. You're literally a walking cliche.
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>>341563578
And MGSV was an actual game while this is looking to be an interactive movie
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>>341562672
This guy >>341562780 is right but the PC is not fit for exclusives unless you are really into Western games and especially strategy games. PC is for multiplats and ports. Not that that's a bad thing. I don't believe bragging about exclusives is a good thing anyways; ideally, all these games would be on all platforms. It'd be awesome to figure out a way to play Stronghold on consoles for instance. I don't like the idea of bragging about exclusives as it takes choices and freedom away from the consumer. So I don't think whether or not the PC has exclusives is even something worth bringing up. Exclusives are not something to brag about, and I personally like the PC as a multiplat machine.
>>341563068
That's not it; These sorts of companies are happy enough with their numbers to continue porting games to PC; that doesn't mean they'll release games at the same time, though some companies are now doing that (Bamco especially with God Eater 2 and Tales of Berseria). For example, Spike Chunsoft stated that if Danganronpa 2 got as good sales as DR1, they might port more interesting games to PC. And now Zero Time Dilemma, 999, and Mystery Chronicle are popping up. I'm not saying the sales are so high that companies are going to prioritize PC first; just that they are satisfied with the sales. You claimed originally that the sales numbers were insignificant and paltry, but if they were, why would companies make statements of satisfaction/continue to port games? It doesn't make sense. I feel as if the only people really qualified to say whether something is having good sales or not and what sales goals even are though are the actual companies themselves. No one knows exactly what these companies are aiming for in terms of sales.
>>341563147
What are you even shitposting about? Are you talking about Nioh? Are you implying musou games can't be good?
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>>341553382
As a ps4 owner I don't really care. I don't see PC as any kind of big deal, competition or threat to my gaming on playstation.

Pc's kind of.. it exists. It's not a big deal though, and it might as well not exist for all the impact it has on anything.
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>>341553382
Wait so is it coming to PC or not? All the shitposting has me confused.
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>>341553382
>Are PS4 fans ok with Sony OWNED games ported to the PC ?
Probably more okay with it than Sony developing PC games, and not porting them to PS4 til years later.
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>>341563021
>"console exclusive" 100% means its for PC as well. Otherwise they simply say exclusive.

OP here, yes that's why I mentioned it. "console exclusive" for a "Sony trademarked game" means that House is plain and simple backstabbing his costumers.
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>>341563376

delete this
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>>341563809
>House is plain and simple backstabbing his costumers.
>by porting the game to PC

This is weapon's grade autisim.
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>>341563482
No, the fake tweet.
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>>341563771
http://www.videogamer.com/ps4/metal_gear_solid_5_the_phantom_pain/news/kojimas_new_game_will_be_published_by_sony_is_also_coming_to_pc_wont_be_silent_hills.html
Probably? Not sure
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>>341563771
Nobody knows yet. We barely know anything about the game in general
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>MS slowly becoming pc again
>Nintendo are pretty much their own bubble
>Sony expanded their movie branch

What a weird world.
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>>341553382
No matter what I'll be getting this on ps4 but I don't mind it coming out on pc. If only because the character swaps for mgsv were hilarious and the data mining allowed us to see the nuclear disarmament ending without actually doing kojimas impossible task
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>>341563771

See >>341555005
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>>341563726
Consoles are STILL more profitable is what I was getting at. PC is nowhere near as profitable as they lead you to believe, otherwise they wouldn't focus so heavily on console and only port a game here and there.
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>>341563687
>You're talking about bringing a game to other platforms somehow screwing over their consumers.

yes that's the very definition of screwing your costumers.

>>341563758
>As a ps4 owner I don't really care.

such diplomatic bullshit. indies aside this is the first time a SONY OWNED game is being ported on the PC.
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>>341564210
>yes that's the very definition of screwing your costumers.

I don't think you know what the definition of screwing your customers is. Letting people play a game you bought on other platforms is not that.
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>>341564210
Why do you give a fuck, mate? Did MGSV being on XBone and PC hurt your experience in anyway
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>>341564123
This is what Confucian scholars would call the "Mandate of Heaven" in action.
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>>341564210
Consoles are on the out, sonygger, better accept it now.
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>>341555005
>no PC

dropped tbqh my famicoms
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>>341554140
Money is always relevant.
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>>341564210
>such diplomatic bullshit
Just cos you're ass ravaged about muh exclusives it doesn't mean that other ps4 owners have to be.
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>>341563771
Probably but nothing is confirmed. It's more likely that if the game was truly PS4 exclusive Sony would tout the game as a PS4 exclusive like they've done with Spiderman and God of War, not the otherway around.
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I think the conclusion of this thread is that fanboys of all varieties are scum, and should stop shitting up /v/ with console war retardation
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>>341562782
If you're getting upset because a game isn't exclusively on you plastic toy then I recommend seeing a therapist.

>>341563758
Yeah PC is such a non-existent threat that Microsoft and Sony are developing Scorpio and PS4 Neo.
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Yep. See, unlike most of /v/, I feel everyone should be able to play a game. Exclusivity can ruin games and their fanbases. Just look at Bloodborne.
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>>341564183
I don't think I ever said you were wrong about that. Just that calling 3 million sales paltry and making your own assumptions vs taking companies' words themselves is kind of silly. You essentially claimed "No they're not. They aren't satisfied" which isn't the case. They are very much happy with the sales they are getting in their ports. The sales are not high enough to make companies consider PC first, but they're high enough to where the ports keep happening, and they definitely wouldn't be happening if there wasn't some money to be made out of it. It just makes your statements seem kind of ridiculous.
>there IS no "untapped market" on PC that's "free money". It's just a negligible amount of money they earn, and often times it's not enough. Ports of older games are hardly profitable
Statements like this I mean. They're really silly. You should've just said "consoles are more profitable", and I think people might've found such a statement more believable/agreeable/in-line with the way games are being released
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>>341559014
You're delusional
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>>341564594
how do the shit come out as a regular sausage? in that position his ass checks will be clenched the the shit would come out as paste
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>>341564210
>PS4 players
>screwed over somehow
How? You still have your game. Its not as if the game is suddenly scooped from your library and you no longer can play it on PS4. You still have your game and more people get to play the game. No one is screwed over.
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>>341564743
What's wrong with what he said? It seems pretty spot on to me
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>>341564425
You can not drop what was never for your hands
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>>341562182
what about mgs4?
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>>341564315
>Letting people play a game you bought on other platforms is not that.
>>341564331
>Did MGSV being on XBone and PC hurt your experience in anyway

guys I don't know if you are half asleep americans or eurofags with poor english or just summer but can you please stop posting nonsense and read the fucking OP:

>Death Stranding is a trademark of Sony.
>console exclusive

this is unprecedented cuckoldry
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>>341563714
Its a cinematic trailer released six months after the studio was formed. They haven't even decided on an engine yet.
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>>341564705
Yeah, WB was so happy with their 3 million sales, they decided to outsource the port of Arkham Knight to a 12 man team, which led to a legendarily broken game. Those Japs are so happy with 30 thousand units sold, they won't port the newest game until the newest console entry is out.

Companies view video games purely in numbers. 6 million is more than 3 million, plain and simple.
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>>341564759
You might be able to maintain such a position using only your legs and not your glutes, it would take some effort and conscious thinking but I think it's possible. I'm not willing to try it myself though, I think it would actually be damaging to maintain that position for the time it takes to shit.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PnCN043dQ1s
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>>341565191
>>Letting people play a game you bought on other platforms
>>that's the very definition of screwing your costumers.

Feel free to kill yourself any time.
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>>341565191
Except nowhere is it confirmed that it's coming to any other platform than PS4
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>>341564425
The whole point of that post was saying that it's unclear as to what exactly the situation is at this stage, though.

>>341563714
Development on the game itself hasn't even started, senpai.
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>>341565191
You didn't answer the question. How does it affect your version of the game?
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