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Where do you expect the game to fall on the timeline? What kind of story is it going to tell? Has the Zelda team finally figured out good writing after SS was such a mess?
>>341474437
>zelda
>timeline
>>341474437
The mere existence of the Kokori paints it post WW
![Hyrule-Historia-Timeline-translated-Graphics[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/UunBoGT.jpg "Hyrule-Historia-Timeline-translated-Graphics[1]")
>>341474757
Gannon being referred to as gannon implies fallen hero timeline, but the presence of koroks implies that it is either pre or post wind waker
That being said, its just like nintendo to throw it all out the window and do things because they thing it's cool
>>341474802
They could BS it and say that Koroks appeared after TP too.
If it's post Wind Waker then Princess Zelda shouldn't be in it
>>341474908
Wolf link is in because Amiibos so probably.
Things we know for sure:
>Koroks
>Link woke up in a "resurrection chamber"
>people will want to go back and play Twilight Princess after this game
Ganondorf is supposedly dead post-TP, but there is something called "Calamity Ganon" sealed up in this game.
Also you can put amiibo shit in there, which I have a feeling might be "canon" to the storyline, as in, you can summon shit from other timelines/eras through sheikah tech.
My guess is the game revolves entirely around timeline shenanigans.
>>341475273
Some other important hints in the demo:
>Voice at the start says that Link must save the land "once again"
>The Old Man, outside a shrine, says that the Sheikah used to protect the land with their power and wisdom.
>>341474908
The King called him Ganon multiple times in Wind Waker
>>341475524
WTF IS THAT
>>341474802
No it doesn't, Koroks were not created during WW. They were already there before the game started and we have no indication of how long they have been (although presumably they're ex-kokiri?).
>>341476338
TECHNOLOGY
>>341475524
>muffled ayy in the distance
>>341476608
They were created during the flood
I think this game will take place in the WW timeline, right after Ganon appears but before the flood.
The hero failed fighting Ganon so he already destroyed Hyrule and nobody is there anymore. The sages are able to keep Ganon imprisoned in Hyrule's Castle but the hero fails and needs to recover.
Once the hero is recovered, he wakes up again when somebody tells him that he must open his eyes.
>>341476761
No, they were created because they wanted to be able to fly, so that is why they look like that. The fact that they did that because of the flood is just wondering.
>>341476608
They are ex kokiri. When you bring makar to the sage place his ancestor is a Kokiri, same way medli ancestor is a Zora.
>>341475524
>we're literally getting ayys in this game
>game's plot will literally involve ayys in some form
>>341475524
could it be the city in the sky from TP?
>>341475273
I was thinking about the amiibo thing too, like you could use the other heros. Or if they just threw it in because fuck it, it's a video game.
It's set a good time after WW flood was drained.
This is the ruins of Hyrule, which is why OoT temple of time is right there
>>341475524
Noice
>>341476975
>they wanted to be able to fly,
Because of the ocean, same as the Rito
The wandering old man is clearly Ganondorf. A Ganondorf with nothing to do in an empty Hyrule. Almost seems post-Wind-Waker but without the flooding that followed.
I think we may be looking at ANOTHER "hero fails" timeline branch - this is what happens if Link fails in Wind Waker.
>>341477126
I think so. Sky cities happen all the time it seems like, and just its shape seems to suggest it's going to be a dungeon.
>>341477356
More likely is the King Daphness Johansen Hyrule
>>341477356
Ganon's shadow is around Hyrule's castle.
>>341477356
The old man is King Daphnes.
>>341477517
He didn't have this nose. And that skin color looks more than just tan.
>>341474908
>gannon
literally kill yourself
>>341475524
HOLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
SHEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET
FAAAMS
>>341474437
>Where do you expect the game to fall on the timeline?
They are going full Dark Souls where BoW's Hyrule is like Lordran 2.0, in that this Hyrule is one that defies the laws of time and physics and is converging elements from all timelines together.
That's why we're seeing Koroks, Wolf Link, Bridge of Eldin, Goddess statues and OoT's temple of time all within the same setting.
>What kind of story is it going to tell?
I have a suspicious feeling that it's going to be extremely dark, maybe even the darkest game in the series by a long shot an that the game will go full Bloodborne with its plot twists halfway through.
First off, I doubt this Link isn't the real deal, but is instead an artificial entity created by the Sheikah. It's already pretty telling when the game opens up with Link waking up from a cryo-stasis pod with virtually no mention of his past life. Because he doesn't have one.
Either he's the back-up in case if the real hero were to die or something were to go wrong, or perhaps he was created as a counter - to counter the real Link that is out there right now, for whatever reasons. Basically we're playing as Punished Link.
Keep in mind that the Sheikah monks who help upgrade your Sheikah cellphone only exist for one purpose like Link does, and that they pretty much die after fulfilling it. This is foreshadowing some real and seriously deep shit regarding Link's future.
And assuming that the Lordran timeline theory is correct, this could mean that we might even run into multiple Links from the other games.
The old man at the start of the demo is Ganondorf, after being free of Ganon (Demise) and its curse.
He's now just a good, humble man who wants to help you out.
That's pretty much all of my crackpot speculation for now.
WHY ARE LINK'S THIGHS SO SPREAD APART
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341475524
That thing looks like a sky dungeon layout. Which either wind control to glide, or hookshotting to traverse its gaps.
>>341477290
>WW flood was drained
Why would that happen? How would it happen?
>>341477070
but ayy already appeared in zelda games before
>>341478498
SO YOU CAN SEE HIS SUPPLE YOUNG BOY THIGHS OF COURSE!
REEEEEEEE
>>341478892
Goddess magic
>>341478273
I like your theory. I also think Link was either created or an older hero/someone thought to be the hero and being saved at whenever he was thought to be needed. They did refer to it as the Regeneration Gmaber and that's where you will respawn after death.
>>341478273
Ok kojima
>>341478978
Triforce magic caused it.
Lore is the worst thing to eve happen to Zelda. Well, aside from the fans that worship it.
>>341478959
HE'S ALSO GOT THAT V LINE ON HIS PELVIC AREA.
WHAT DID NINTENDO MEAN BY THIS?
REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341478892
This, I feel like The Great Sea was Hyrule centuries later, after everything, it is now covered by water forever. The only way to keep evil out the land for good.
>>341479268
Look they wanted Link to be a cute girly boy and there is absolutely nothing wrong with that.
>>341478998
>Regeneration Gmaber
Did you have a stroke?
>>341479321
>Ganon is back
>unflooded hyrule
There I spoiled BotW story for you
The only thing I'm worried about, is we got hyped for mgsv in the same way as this because of how dynamic it looked. I'm hoping the rest of the game is as good as the sandbox content they've shown
>>341474437
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491081
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491081
http://www.strawpoll.me/10491081
>>341479371
I'm having strange feelings for this new link...
What does this mean?
>>341479393
Apparently. *Chamber
>>341479268
THEY WERE MERELY POINTING OUT THAT LINK DOES INFACT POSSESS A BIG FAT COCK ONE OF WHICH HE WILL USE TO RAPE PRINCESS ZELDA DID I SAY RAPE? YES I SAID RAPE! WHO COULD STOP HIM?!
REEEEEEEE*BONER*EEEEEEE
>>341479512
>Canon timeline
What?
>>341479059
Well they're definitely breaking conventions to the point where we can run off and fight the final boss first thing if we really want to, so I don't see why they wouldn't go full mindfuck and crazy with the plot this time around.
Also Aonuma admitted that they're already taking a sort of Dark Souls/Bloodborne approach with the plot in that it will mostly be told through the gameplay and atmosphere, as well as the decisions we make. You can skip or ignore it all if you desire.
>>341475273
wasn't reincarnated Ganon sealed in FSA (after TP)
>>341479512
It's a Hero Fails timeline of WW you fools! Hyrule beneath the Great Sea left unflooded.
>>341474437
Taking from another thread:
So, timelines. Resurrection Chamber, etc.
>Idea 1: Old Man from the beginning of the game is the Wind Waker Boat dude guy who wished Hyrule to remain a water wasteland and somehow lived long enough to see the waters recede and preparing you for Ganon's return.
This seems to be the most logical way to do things, however "breaking away from zelda tradition" has been bothering me
>Idea 2: Old man from the beginning of the game is Wind Waker Ganon who either killed Link/Zelda in that final battle or before hand because all throughout Wind Waker he let those two live countless times and got his wish and lived long enough to regret it and trying to prevent a new evil from taking over a dried out Hyrule
Considering the King of hyrule is "human" and it would take years for Hyrule to dry out naturally or a second chance with the tri-force, not much chance of him living long enough and leaving Ganon to get old would make more sense
>Idea 3: Old Man is Ganon, but making clone links using the Resurrection Chamber and using the cloned links to defeat a greater evil than Ganon and plans to ambush clone link
pure bad fanfic idea right here
>>341479530
I'm sorry, anon, but you've come down with a case of the gays.
Squadala, dont mind my huge gerudo nose, I'm totally a cave hobo.
>OoT link goes to sleep
>Goddesses pull a phantom pain and wake him up 93 years later than expected
>Now go and bring the legend back to life!
>>341479530
You're gay or you've been on /v/ too much.
>>341479671
I thought it was "Resurrection" chamber.
>>341479701
The timeline of the canon Zelda games dude.
>>341479681
The quality of posts is important to us here at 4chan
>>341479453
No i mean it HAS to be post Wind Waker because oceans dont just unflood in a few hundred years.
Unless Nintendo has decided fuck our intelligence, its unflooded again you filthy american dogs
>>341479787
>This seems to be the most logical way to do things, however "breaking away from zelda tradition" has been bothering me
That's pretty far from tradition
>>341479917
You're probably right, I remembered the wrong word.
>>341478273
>to counter the real Link that is out there right nowBig Link is the villain
>>341476608
They were created as a reaction to the flood.
>>341479868
not little boy link, I'm talking new older link ~
>>341478273
makes sense. At first I thought it was going to take place after a link to the past because of the rusty master sword in its pedestal, as the shot that shows it mimics the artwork present in altp. although combining elements from other zelda timelines would be a interesting approach to the game
>>341479821
THIS CANT...
>>341479938
ARE YOU IMPLYING, GOOD SIR, THAT MY POST'S ARE OF POOR QUALITY?
YOU SHAME ME WITH SUCH TALK.
reeeeeeeee
Consider this:
The old man owns the same flying cape Link has. I don't thing it is a minor detail.
>>341474908
It's most likely Post-Wind Waker, due to Koroks and the Old Man looking like the King. Also Hyrule being in ruins makes sense if this is the Wind Waker Hyrule once the waters have finally dried up.
I think Link is a Robot, created by the shiekah to save Hyrule in case the Hero of Time Fails his mission. He is actually one of many Robots that tried but failed. He will be treated like a hero but he is merely a pawn of the shiekah.
>>341478273
>I have a suspicious feeling that it's going to be extremely dark, maybe even the darkest game in the series by a long shot
I really hope this. Skyward Sword was just too light for me, I want some dark shit like Majora's Mask, that game was so engaging purely because of the NPCs.
>>341475021
Why not? Zelda reincarnates just like Link. Why would this being in the Wind Waker timeline hundreds/thousands of year after WW preclude there being a Zelda?
>>341480362
it means he invented the flying cape, he's leonardo da vinci
>>341480537
Because Tetra's descendants are now living in New Hyrue on the other side of the world.
>>341480342
It's terminal, usually. Luckily, there is a suppository you can take to stave off dying indefinitely.
>>341480537
Zelda doesn't reincarnate, she just has the blood of the Goddess.
>>341480406
>the final area you walk into a room full of half destroyed Link bots
>you walk into the middle and all of their eyes turn on and glow red
>penultimate boss is 30 shadow links surrounding link
>>341480539
Suck my mona lisa.
>>341475273
There is the rock salt found at the plateau/central hyrule too. It seems to imply there were a sea at this place before.
To me, it looks to be post-WW but some things don't make sense :
- The sea level has gone down for an unknown reason.
- Ganondorf revived, unless it's a reincarnation again.
- The master sword is back in its pedestal, in a forest (reminder, in WW, the castle was on top of the pedestal, and the sword ended in ganondorf head).
- The master sword is in a terrible state. Did the seawater makes it rust ?
- Sheikah are back ? They were almost extinct in OoT and we have now all this crazy tech and their symbol everywhere.
However, it would be interesting if the old man is truly the king and survived the ending of WW. Imagining him alone in flooded hyrule for centuries is kinda sad.
>>341476608
Koroks are what the Kokiri turned into due to the flood, in the same way that Rito are what Zora turned into.
If Koroks and/or Rito exist, that means the Flood happened. And as far as we know, the Flood only happens in the Wind Waker timeline. The Old Man looking like Daphnes seems to also imply this.
It certainly could be something else - granted there are hints at the other timelines too (Aonuma saying we will want to play TP after this implies it's in TP's timeline, and the Old Man's existence as well as all the visual callbacks to the original LoZ imply it could even be in the "Ganon Wins" timeline of the original games). So who knows. But I still think most of the evidence points to this being centuries after Wind Waker/Phantom Hourglass/Spirit Tracks.
>>341474437
it's a reboot
>>341480664
What is it Dr. Anon? I'll do anything.
So, are we sure the voice Link hears at the beginning is Zelda's voice?
Couldn't she be the Godess? Or Impa?
>>341477843
>Clairvoyance! Or something like that.
My bet is that the tablet-thing has a gossip stone and he has another one, allowing him to spy on us (like Tetra in WW).
>>341481212
I'll need you to take your pants off and assume the position. It's time for yourdose
>>341474880
>Era of decline
>Master Sword not used because it didn't appear in Zelda I and II
it's a Zelda II sequel with fan service elements from other games. You read it here first.
What if this is the hyrule that got sealed off and flooded in Wind Waker
>>341474437
It takes place right before the flood. As in, the climax and conclusion to this game will be the flooding of Hyrule.
Look at the facts about what we know about the setting of the game.
>Ganon Returned and wrecked shit
>No Hero appeared to stop him
>Hyrule now in a state of decay
>Villages are rare and not shown yet because they are "deeply linked to the story and no spoilers will be shown"
I guarantee that those villages are going to be filled with devout people praying to the gods to save them from this evil that ruined their great kingdom of hyrule.
The twist? The Gods don't flood Hyrule. You do.
>>341481072
My point was that there's a very large gap between the flood happening and the start of WW. The world being flooded was already "a very long time ago" by the time of WW. There's plenty of time for adventures between the two.
>>341474437
Post everything.
>but plotholes
Magic.
Screenshot this and try to tell me to eat shit when I'm proven right.
Try.
>>341481348
I'm like 6% sure it's literally the voice of Zelda Williams
>>341481597
>It takes place right before the flood
That wouldn't explain the koroks.
>>341480967
Maybe leaving the sword in ganondorf's head at the end of WW caused it to become broken. Combination of evil and salt water.
>>341480717
It's Hylia that reincarnates then. But still, Link is the constant reincarnation of the spirit of the Hero, and Zelda is the constant reincarnation of the spirit of the Goddess Hylia. I still don't see why there wouldn't be another Zelda.
>>341480626
And how do you know somewhere in those centuries one of those descendents wouldn't have moved back to this area? All kinds of things could have happened in that span of time. They could have been called back to Hyrule somehow.
>>341481451
okay doctor so I jus-
WAIT NO STOP
AHHHHREEEE
>>341474437
>zelda lore
nice meme desu
>>341480856
NOO man...sigh It goes like this:
>the final area you walk into a room full of half destroyed Link bots
>you walk into the middle and see ganon waiting for you
>waiting for the hero that will finally save hyrule
>>341481838
Too soon
>>341481910
>And how do you know somewhere in those centuries one of those descendents wouldn't have moved back to this area? All kinds of things could have happened in that span of time. They could have been called back to Hyrule somehow.
Why would they? Neww Hyrule was doing great.
If it was to take place after Wind Waker then I think it would mean that link in this game isn't the real link since after Wind Waker, Zelda and Link sail to a new island and build a new Hyrule away from the old one that got flooded
but somehow old Hyrule became unflooded, but since it became unflooded there is no link around to stop Ganon so he destroyed Hyrule until he got trapped inside Hyrule Castle and the Shiekah meanwhile work on creating a machine that is able to make a "clone" of Link to come back and save Hyrule.
So the Link you're isn't the real one but just a clone to take the real Links place.
Of course I could just be talking rubbish oh well.
The curse of Demise has become sentient and is GANON, which is the big shadowy stuff around the castle.
The wielder of the Triforce of Power is the lone man of the Gerudo, Ganondorf.
They are two separate entities.
The fact that there are hints to ALL 3 major timelines points to two things.
Either
A. Nintendo doesn't give a fuck
B. Nintendo is trolling us and there is some multiverse bullshit going down
The fact that this game's story is all lore, I see B. As more likely.
I hope it makes sense, I love Zelda lore
Could the flood happen in a different timeline?
It's post Wind Waker after the flood waters receded. This current Link is a reincarnation of OoT Link, who felt guilty over not being able to return to fight off Ganon prior to the Goddesses causing the flood.
>>341482037
I DIDN'T MENTION HIM YOU FUCK
ZELDA'S A FAN OF ZELDA IT MAKES SENSE FOR HER TO BE CAST FOR THE FIRST VOICED ZELDA OUTSIDE OF CARTOONS AND CDI
>>341476812
This theory now seems very possible and cool as an idea
I honestly think it's between OoT - TWW
>No Hero of Time
>Ganon returns and blows Hyrule the fuck out
>Becomes known as the Calamity
>Somehow sealed away inside Hyrule Castle, the kingdom crumbles
>The Sheikah create a sort of human construct to try and replicate the Hero of Time
>It will be woken up once Calamity Ganon becomes too strong to contain within Hyrule Castle
>You aren't Link, but you're being led to believe you are
>BOTW does MSGV better than MGSV.
>>341481880
In Wind Waker Deku Tree said "they used to take the form of children but one day decided to take this form" He never claimed or stated it was related at all to the ocean.
>>341474437
It takes place after Phantom Hourglass but before Spirit Tracks.
>>341482052
Because in the centuries to come something could happen that causes them to no longer be doing great. It isn't too far-fetched to imagine something could have wrecked New Hyrule in that time.Or again, there might just be destiny or something unknown calling them to the other side of the world. Zelda games happen centuries apart from each other and the world experiences massive changes in that time, there's all kinds of reasons a Zelda could be back in that area.
>>341482117
>Ganondorf was jealous of Hyrule's wind.
>Ganon is now THE WIND.
>>341477356
It seems more like he is the king of Hyrule
>>341474437
Here the real "lore". The original intent was there was none. Each games was it own stand alone retelling the "Legend of Zelda" over and over. However some autistic splegh tried to connect all the games together and it started to gain steam. Nintendo just went "Heh, this pretty neat" and just went along with and created the mess that it is now.
tl;dr Lore fags over complicate shit
Screencap this: in a very high mountain, we will find some old and rusty train rails, confirming the game takes place after Spirit Tracks.
>>341482153
Nintendo gives zero fucks about Zelda timeline autists.
>>341478273
Noice
>>341482645
Yes, let's ignore the fact that most of the games since Zelda II have explicitly mentioned either in marketing or in their manuals their placement on some sort of timeline.
Yeah I think it's sometime before WW.
Too bad, I'm looking forward to the Zelda game where you're told to go retrieve the master sword and you find it still stuck in Ganondorf's stupid face.
>>341482645
I love how people keep saying this even though it's bullshit. Nintendo gave Zelda a chronology themselves but mired it with inconsistencies which led to fanwank.
>Can't show towns because spoilers
>Koroks
>Wolf Link
>Not underwater because there's weather
>Guardians are broken and old
We're getting time travel stuff again. That's why they released an official timeline with Skyward Sword.
>there is a Korok right at the start of the game
>BotW takes place before WW
>>341474437
>Ruined Ocarina of Time!Temple of Time
>Koroks
Pretty obvious this is finally the post-Ocarina-pre-Wind Waker flood game we've been waiting for.
Anyone have a webm of qt Link shivering
>>341483071
Wolf Link is just a fun bonus feature. Don't think too hard about required Amiibo support.
It's in the ruined timeline, many centuries after Zelda 1 and 2.
>>341482895
It can't be before WW. Before WW there have been a huge war, Hyrule still wasn't a desolate land like in BotW.
This doesn't have to be the WW universe, the Korok was put there to throw us off the trail, this is the hero fails timeline, only the kokiri forest got flooded, and they became koroks anyway
>>341483092
Are you trying to imply there's some logic issue in that? By the time WW starts, the koroks had already existed for some unknown amount of time.
>>341483183
Yeah, no. That anon is right. If they allowed Wolf Link, there must be a reason. Remember, Aonuma talked about connections to TP.
>>341474802
It can't be post WW because they would need to retcon both PH and ST. Also, its too obvious. This has to be on the "era of decline". Koroks will be retconned as a natural Kokiri evolution maybe.
I think we'd be able to figure this out easier if we knew what the guardians are and who built them.
>>341482645
Bullshit. That came WAY after the fan theory. Shiggy didn't make LoZ with this grand master plan. LttP is a remake of of the original, and OoT is a remake of them both.
If anything it just a story being retold over and over again, with different perspective.
Lorefags are the faggotry that ruin games nowadays. God forbid games can just be fun and not have this over complicated bullshit connecting to each other. They as bad as the faggots who argues that Dark soul and Bloodborne is in the same university cause the moonlight great sword is in it.
>>341474437
I want some timeline shenanigans to be a part of this. It's the only way all the technology would work. I'm expecting some bullshit about how somehow some of Demise's minions from pre-SS ripped open a portal through time, went into the post-WW future, and fucked New Hyrule's shit up. Or something like that.
>>341477843
>RETURN OF KING TOILET BOWL
Awwww yissss
>>341476812
Wait, I thought the Hero was supposed to be OoT Link who vanished because he went back in time and was unable to stop Ganon because of that.
>>341483524
>It can't be post WW because they would need to retcon both PH and ST
Not if it takes place many centuries after ST, when the water level went down and people went from to new Hyrule back to old Hyrule.
>>341479512
>Canon timeline
Don't you mean the decline timeline?
>>341475524
WHAT THE FUCK
>>341482645
Maybe not all of them, but most of them have clear connections to each other. Nintendo came along and cemented the timeline thing in an effort to sell their Hyrule Historia book.
It's set in Wind Waker 'Downfall'/'Power' timeline. Ganondorf victory, where he successfully raised the old kingdom.
The game will give an explanation of why the Goddesses sank Hyrule. Probably something not entirely just/selfless, and which will make the conflict of Wind Waker (whether or not to raise the old kingdom) even more morally ambiguous.probably about the sheikah, who may also finally get their big reveal in this game. something like, they are antagonistic to the gods, but not 'evil'.
This is the game at the end of all the Zelda timelines as they converge.
On top of that, the game takes place before Skyward Sword, making the "Zelda Cycle" a very real thing in the timeline.
>>341483289
I don't know why high quality animations for Zelda games always make me happy...
Could be because I was very isolated from other games when I played the original oot...
>>341475524
The fuck.
I've heard many theories. The three that make the most sense are:
A. It's far into the future of the ruined timeline
B. It's post Majora's Mask, pre Twilight Princess, just prior to or after the twilight interloper war.
C. It's long after Wind Waker in Old Hyrule after balance was restored to the world and the flood waters receded
>>341483289Do you have any of shirtless Link shivering
>>341483974
Do you have a single fact to back that up?
>>341483890
Skyloft/Oocca city
>>341478007
>>341477070
>>341476749
>>341475524
When we got a closer look at those thin towers that are dotted around they kind of look like they're extracting resources from the earth, the blue ones water and the fiery ones lava
>>341483652
You're saying shit that's contrary to fact. It's on the back of the box that A Link to the Past is a prequel to Legend of Zelda numbnuts. Ocarina of Time is the story alluded to in A Link to the Past and gives Ganon an origin story.
>BotW Ganon is supposedly so badass they call him CALAMITY Ganon now
>He fucking gets a prefix of the word "Calamity"
He better be badass and hard as fuck or I'm gonna be mad.
>>341476812
How do you make a Zelda game where you're forced to die/lose at the end?
It's in between Twilight Princess and Four Swords Adventures
>>341475021
but a Zelda appears in Spirit Tracks, and that's after WW.
>>341480967
>Ganondorf revived, unless it's a reincarnation again.
Again? Isn't Ganon usually the same one? I don't think he's reincarnated in any game (he's resurrected in most). OoT Ganon is the same one as in TP, as in WW, as in ALttP.
I don't think Malladus has any connection to Ganon does he?
>>341483919
>It's set in Wind Waker 'Downfall'/'Power' timeline. Ganondorf victory, where he successfully raised the old kingdom.
This actually makes a shit ton of sense.
>probably about the sheikah, who may also finally get their big reveal in this game. something like, they are antagonistic to the gods, but not 'evil'.
Agreed, we'll see more of the Sheikah here. Probably something also about how they're really in-tune to pre-SS Hyrule, so they know how to work magical technology and such, hence the Sheikah thing Link carries around with him.
>>341483652
>LttP is a remake of of the original
"The predecessors of Link and Zelda face monsters on the march when a menacing magician takes over the kingdom." - ALttP box
>OoT is a remake of them both
"The story in Ocarina of time isn’t actually original, it deals with the Sages’ Imprisoning War from the Super Famicom's ALttP." - Interview with Satoru Takizawa
>>341483593
They're built by the Sheikah to protect Hyrule. Old Man's dialogue lays this out.
>>341484271
Given that they turned over a new leaf and want to allow players to fail again, I am optimistic about boss fights.
>>341474437
>Ganon knocks link off of the top of the temple into the water
>Hyrule floods
>Link is saved by le deus ex machina
>ONE HUNDRED YEARS HAVE PASSED
>WE NEED A NEW HERO
Still doesn't explain the shrines.. did we see shrines like that in WW?
The monks look like they were sent there THOUSANDS of years ago and were meant to keep knowledge safe for whatever future hero comes.
>>341484271
Calamity Ganon sounds like Ganon as a cowboy
I want it.
>>341484418
And she lives on the other side of the world. She's not in Hyrule anymore
>>341484123
>and the flood waters receded
Wind Waker took place centuries after Ocarina of Time, how much longer would it take for the flood waters to recede?
>has something to do with TP
Are we getting Midna again?
>>341483431
They had existed since after the flooding of the world, it makes no sense here.
>>341484526
WW doesn't take place in Hyrule
>>341484435
FSA Ganon was a reincarnation as far as we know.
>>341484580
Very hot periods happen in history. ùLike there are Ice ages, there are hot ages.
>>341484526
>Still doesn't explain the shrines.. did we see shrines like that in WW?
We didn't see much of Hyrule at all in WW though it does look kinda similar.
I thought this light might be coming from Zeruda already imprisoned in the castle
>>341484459
In addition to that, I also recall before it came out that they did expreslly talk about a timeline before OOT came out, and said that OoT was the "earliest point of the timeline so far", which is accurate with what they had done at the time. Then again, it was easy to claim that one would be the earliest in general since it served as Ganon's origin story anyway.
>>341482153
It's definitely multiverse shit.
We also now know that the Sheikah wee an extremely advanced magitech race, they created the resurrection chamber, the shrines and all of these towers and robot guardians scattered across the map.
We also know that they pretty much created Lanayru desert's ruined city and that they manipulated time via time shift stones for their own liking, and also as an energy source.
What if Ganon absorbed so much of this ancient power the the created a time nuke, breaking the laws of physics to the point where timelines are converging together? That would explain why he's called calamity Ganon now.
>>341484729
It happens ON Hyrule.
>>341474437
It would be neat if this was a world where Ganon won.
That somehow Ganon would split off from ganondorf resulting in dorf to be remorseful. Maybe training the new link to stop calamity Ganon.
>>341484435
He does in four swords adventure >>341474880
In the game itself, we got his story about how he got the trident of power of the pyramid and became Ganon.
There are supposed to be actual towns with people. Maybe we're supposed to make the towns, or gather the people, and raise them up to high places before it's time to release the flood?
>>341484271
>Calamity Ganon is seen in the first 20 minutes of the game as a giant fucking shadow boar
>is never explicitly referred to as male, just this ominous fucking "thing" that laid waste to the world
>no Ganondorf in sight
I think I've gotten over the fact we're going against Ganon again.
>>341484908
I think they will be more similar to Zelda 2 towns. No sources, just speculation.
>>341484750
Hyrule Historia also explains that the concept of "Ganon" exists almost as an idea too. So even when he is destroyed, the hatred and his will are so strong he just comes back eventually. And this is what happens between ALttP and LoZ.
>>341481685
But the world was still under water, and that's Hyrule castle. Also the old man said this was the kingdom of Hyrule
>>341484458
There are no alternate timelines created by WW though. OoT created a split because it involved actual time travel, not just hypothetical "what if link game-over'ed' scenarios
>>341475524
we ghibli now
>>341474908
GANNON-BANNED
>>341485282
No.. OoT didn't create anything, it showed possibilities in the actual game, not just the transition between them.
>>341485236
There's air and shit in sunken Hyrule. It's like a bubble at the bottom of the sea
>>341485295
>now
did you miss TP?
>>341484187
There's Koroks, Wolf Link, Ganon is mentioned up front (So you can count on there being some kind of twist where he's not actually the big bad this time), the Master Sword is aged, there's TECHNOLOGY that doesn't really fit anywhere in the timeline, and the kingdom looks destroyed.
My money is on the seal on Demise being broken because the Master Sword is damaged or 10,000 years have passed or some shit. Monsters and enemies have taken over and there's little civilization left (hence breath of the wild). You play as the OG Link from the pre-SS comic.
>>341484538
>calamity ganon has a magical revolver
>"triforce o'power, and o'courage... ya see Link, there ain't enough room in this land for the both of us"
>>341485069
Wait, it's supposed to be a boar? I thought it was some sort of evil spirit with horns (like Phantom Ganon).
>>341484767
Is this ganon floating around the castle, in a black wind state ?
>>341481482
We can only pray.
>>341485069
You say that like it's a bad thing. Ganondorf reduced Ganon to "rarrrgh this is my final form!!!!" I am loving, LOVING, the notion of Ganon being the main antagonist with no Ganondorf in sight.
And I love Ganondorf mind you.
>>341483974
This would be the fucking shit. I'd be so fucking surprised if Nintendo actually had the balls to do that.
It'd make a LOT of sense too.
>Hyrule grows more and more technologically advanced
>Ganon grows more and more powerful, to the point where he eventually becomes the full on Anti-God figure known asDemise
>his forces overrun the entirety of Hyrule
>eventually the goddess Hylia sends what little remain of Hylians into the sky
>you are simultaneously the latest and final Link in the timeline and the goddess Hylia's Champion, making you also the first Link ever
>game is about you, the King of Hyrule, the Sheikah, and what little remain of surface dwellers, including Koroks and all, taking on at first 'Calamity Ganon', then Demise and starting the cycle all over again
Jesus fucking christ.
>>341485069
>Ganon hasn't been the main antagonist since TP except for HW
>>341484767
Is that supposed to be Ganon with the glowing yellow eyes?
>>341485434Linkto said comic?
>>341484613
>return of the Twili realm
>return of best princess
I don't think my heart could take it.
>>341485282
The problem being there's nothing specifically about the scenario they present with the third timeline that implies it's only tied to OoT. They suddenly bring up multiverse theory in a series that otherwise only had a timeline split due to a very specific and very conscious event, but now all of a sudden stuff we never even experience or see can create a whole new timeline, and nothing about that under the multiverse theory they seem to be going for implies that time travel has to be involved. It just happens as a result of possible branches, or which there are potentially billions.
I do hope the old man in the beginning is a Ganondorf who has been freed from Demise's curse and is helping link to kill Ganon, would be a nice twist and could lead to new villains in the series
>>341485434
>game introduces weapon durability
>as soon as durability exists, the master sword gets instantly wrecked like the stone that had time stopped on it and released after being hit too many times
meta lore
>>341484187
Do any of us have facts to back our theories up?
>it's the hero of time
>the voice in the beginning is Navi
>yfw
Ok, hold the phone, we did saw the Temple of time, isn't it? No speculations about that?
>>341484271
If there's one thing consistently good in all 3D Zeldas, it's the final boss. OoT Ganon is fucking terrifying. Majora's Mask is crazy. Wind Waker has a super cool arena. The final face off sword-to-sword in TP is pretty damn menacing when you don't use the fishing rod. And SS, as shitty of a game as it is, still has a pretty damn badass fight with Demise and the lightning.
>>341485624
Ganon getting cockblocked in ALBW was a nice surprise.
>>341484196
Oh fuck, that would tie right into what I said here >>341485554
SHIEEEET
>>341485440
>realbrown zelda
>funhouse zelda
>anime zelda
>trainpunk zelda
>before the beginning zelda
are we gonna get Western Zelda?
>>341485709
>tfw Illya is you favourite girl
>she won't show up ever again
>actually caring about the official timeline
Fuck it. My headcanon states the games are set in their own individual continuitys, a la Final Fantasy. Besides obvious direct sequels of course (Zelda 1 -> Zelda 2. OoT -> MM, etc)
>>341485840
Hope sqwaudahlah makes an appearance.
Why hasn't Link ever fucked Zelda?
>caring about zelda lore
>>341485910
>fishing rod
You can literally just walk behind Ganondorf and he'll try to turn a little (not nearly enough) while kicking the air forever. You can fight him entirely with Mortal Draw if you want.
>>341484893
>split off from ganondorf resulting in dorf to be remorseful. Maybe training the new link to stop calamity Ganon.
Fund it.
>>341485440
>>341484538
>just a magical revolver when he could have a magical lever-action rifle or shotgun as well
>>341474437
OoT sequel in Decline Timeline with an amnesiac OoT Link waking up around the time of the Imprisoning War.
>Iirc, Hyrule Historia never mentions OoT Link being killed. Just "defeated".
>After his defeat and Princess & Sages seal Ganondorf, they recover his body and Master Sword.
>Princess and Sages take Link to the Sheikah who put him stasis in the Resurrection Chamber to heal.
>Master Sword is taken to the Lost Woods instead of the Temple of Time away from Ganon.
>Castle Town and Temple left in ruin since Hyrulians move elsewhere to get away from the seal's location at Hyrule Castle.
>Calamity Ganon is the result of Ganon's power from the Triforce leaking from the shitty seal. Has no physical form and is just energy, much like how TP Ganondorf was flying spirit face.
>BotW Hyruleans are Hyrule's millennials who do not care about Hyrule's history.
>These are the greedy fuckers mention in ALttP who foolishly seek the Golden Power from Ganon and get turned into monsters.
>ALBW has a picture of a Korok, so they exist in the Decline timeline.
>Sheikah have essentially died out in TP's and WW's timelines.
Resurrected OoT Link seems like the only answer since he's the only Link who's defeat is such a big deal. You can get a game over with every other Link in this franchise, but his defeat lead to more games including the originals. So it stands to reason his "resurrection" would be a big deal.
It's also stated that in the Imprisoning War story that the Seven Sages of the time could not find a new hero to take up the Master Sword. So instead they could have reawakened an old one and give him a second shot at properly sealing Ganon's ass.
On an additional note, the Decline Timeline is the only one without a sequel that explains what exactly went down after its OoT ending.
>>341485736
>new villains
Uhm, have you played anything since TP? Bellum? Cole and Malladus? Yuga? The Lady? Ghirahim and not-Ganondorf/Demise?
>>341485709
>>341484613
>love midna
>she's the worst fucking character in HW
help me
>>341485878
Yeah, it directly called it as such ingame, and it's very similar in structure to OoT's.
>>341485540
Not at all. I love how they're treating Ganon like a catastrophic event, rather than an extension of Ganondorf. It'd be a wonderful throwback to the original game as well, where you know there's some big bad fuck named Ganon fucking shit up, and he's your target.
>>341485442
Looked like a boar when I saw the cutscene. It's faint, but there's two tusks on the shadow-y entity flying around Hyrule castle.
>>341486123
He did. At least twice.
>>341486095
>a la Final Fantasy
IV is connected to I through VI. VII is set in the same universe as X. Ivalice exists.
>>341485952
Ganon nor the Master Sword should have been in ALBW. Heck, ALBW shouldn't even exist. At least not on the Decline Timeline.
>>341486056
>are we gonna get Western Zelda?
Nigga, that was supposed to be Twilight Princess. It's pretty obvious and Miyamoto even outright said as much. TP is literally supposed to be Western-themed. Just look at both Kakariko Villages. Plus the ranch in the beginning, the emphasis on horse-riding, etc.
And then there's Link's Crossbow Training, which did even more with that iirc.
Kind of a waste since I hated TP though.
>>341485714
Oh yeah reading up on it again, you're right. Nintendo describes the downfall timeline specifically as Link failing the final battle. How stupid. I'd remembered it as being any of the timelines Link left behind when he traveled back before Ganon was defeated.
>>341485878
Confirmed in the game itself that it's the temple of time
Calamity Ganon is actually Vaati.
>>341486056
Twilight Princess had a shit ton of western themes in Kakariko and the Hidden Village.
From the western shootout scene to the magical native american
>>341484123
The weird mechanical monsters and the deep connection to the Sheikah, seriously make me think that this game takes place during the interloper war, or almost immediately after it. I think we'll find out that the interlopers are indeed the Sheikah, who are eventually banished to the twilight realm and become the Twili. That would explain why Aonuma says you will want to play Twilight Princess after this, and that Midna might appear in this game. Would also explain why Wolf Link is possible.
>>341486110
Hero of Winds and Tetra/Zelda banged. There's no way ST Zelda isn't their grandchild.
>>341485069
Calamity Ganon is Demise's curse gone sentient, but without a host to possess.
The old man is Ganondorf, who has been freed from the curse and Ganon's possession; he's now a good guy.
I really feel this will be the comfiest game up to date
>soundtrack will contain lots of ambient noises and piano
>that feel of loneliness on a big ass map
>scavenger link with hunter clothes, collecting stuff to survive since no more rupees in grass
>can explore vast enviroments with climate changes that affect you, normal nature events like fires and lightning
>riding a horse across the land freely or walk with a wolf partner
Jesud christ im so hype and i dont know jack shit about the story yet
>>341486335
>>341486220
Well, at least we can exclude it takes place before OoT like some used to say.
There's another thing that points to this being the WW timeline. BotW Link was in stasis in an alien machine for 100 years or so. Remember that there were no incarnations of Link in the WW timeline, even WW Link wasn't the hero reincarnated, he earned the right to wield the master sword through deeds, not prophesy.
>>341483806
Fair enough, but that would make WW ending even more retarded than already is, considering the sequels.
>"In the Japanese version of Twilight Princess, the Dark Interlopers had no name, instead being just a clan of people native to Hyrule that were skilled in magic. Also, Lanayru mentions that the clan attempted to control Hyrule and not the Sacred Realm."
>"At the back of the completed Fused Shadow is a symbol, very similar to the iconic eye emblem of the Sheikah race. The eye part can be seen beforehand on Midna's section of the Fused Shadow, but it is usually hidden by her ponytail. The appearance of the symbol here, as well as in many Twilight-related places, may suggest that the Sheikah were the original creators of the Fused Shadow. Also the Sheikah eye is seen on the throne in the throne room of Zant and in many other places in the Twilight Realm."
>my fucking face when this game is about the Sheikah being the dark interlopers and trying to use a revived Hero of Time Link to do their bidding and control Hyrule
>>341474437
Right now? No telling.
Pro-Wind Waker:
-the existence of Koroks
Con-Wind Waker:
-relatively clearly "old" Hyrule, with the Temple of Time being present. Koroks could have been created by the Deku Tree in response to a hostile environment in the other two timelines as well.
Nothing in favor or against the other two timelines so far. All that's clear is that there must be a huge, huge gap between BotW and any other game, judging by the heavily degraded level of civilization and the Master Sword's ancient appearance.
>>341486515
Same. I don't want to wait another year to play it
>>341486234
>Looked like a boar when I saw the cutscene. It's faint, but there's two tusks on the shadow-y entity flying around Hyrule castle.
Yeah you're definitely right. You can see his hands/paws at one point. What I thought were horns were his tusks.
It is entirely possible that Nintendo just said fuck it and rolled everything together. I hope they didn't, what would be the point of releasing an official timeline if you promptly throw it out the window?
Playing as the original chosen hero of the Goddess Hylia sounds pretty cool, I really hope that's the angle we're going through. Imagine what it must take to convince a goddess you're worth binding your souls together for all eternity.
>>341474437
>general
>>>/vg/
>>341486308
And the hidden village
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5vWiXcJrDE
>>341486205
Imp Midna? only her level 3 attack is good, so good that it's one of the best in the game so spam that endlessly to make everyone your bitch. Twili Midna? you must be playing wrong because she's just powerful.
Haven't played TP in years, but wasn't there a reference to a technologically advanced race before that time period?
BotW could be a prequel to it, as Aonuma said there are references in it to TP.
Pick one
>Pre-WW, immediately before the Flood, showing that Hyrule is fucked so it doesn't matter if it gets flooded
>Post-WW maybe even way after PH/ST, old man is Gannondorf who just wants to bring Hyrule back, doesn't even betray you at the end
>Pre-Zelda 1 or remake of Zelda 1, old man either is, or wants to bring Ganon back, betrays you at the end
>>341486538
Never know, maybe they fix the temple of time up before OoT. Get some stoneworkers in, a rake, mop and bucket, good as new after a few years.
>>341474437
>open world
>story
>good writing
ahahahHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!!!!
>>341485483
>>341485631
Looks like it could be him, or Phantom Ganon, or maybe it's his triforce of power taking form separated from his body, splitting him into that thing (Calamity)Ganon and the old man Gannondorf in the cloak.
In that case he'd likely try to use you to combine with it again
>>341486645
>-relatively clearly "old" Hyrule,
That's pro-Wind Waker
The kingdom would be in ruins in any sequel to itt
>>341486691
>I hope they didn't, what would be the point of releasing an official timeline if you promptly throw it out the window?
1. Hyrule Historia was a big Skyward Sword ad anyway
2. Hyrule Historia straight up contains a diplomatically-worded disclaimer to the extent of "btw we can and will change this shit whenever we feel like it"
>>341486578
>an alien machine
>alien
'no'
>>341485376
Thank you anon
>>341486150
It just seems like kind of a neat idea. That maybe they go back to the original trident idea giving him the power like in alttp, but instead make the weapon sort of sentient or possessed. Maybe it becomes so powerful that it decides it doesn't need a wielder anymore and separates itself from Dorf and becomes a mass of evil, calamity Ganon.
>>341484271
He's going to be the huge Ganon they wanted in OoT, and you'll be able to climb on him. Maybe the castle itself is the final boss this time.
>>341486820
But
>Kokiri
>>341483974
>>341485554
>Wolf Link can be brought forth with Sheikah Slate
Can you bring WW link too? Can I amass an army of the different incarnations of Link because of time-travel shenanigans?
>>341486419
>it becomes Demise's Malice / Malladus
> to control it the gods bind it to the earth
>the flood it so Demise's malice cna't escape
>some of it escapes
>binds itself to a ship and becomes Demise's Belligerency, aka Bellum
>>341486419
>SS Lore
>Dumb fan theories
Gross.
GUYS THIS IS AN EMERGENCY
I NEED A BREATH OF THE WILD MOBILE WALLPAPER
THIS IS NOT A DRILL, I WILL DIE OTHERWISE PLS HELP
who the hell plays Zelda for lore, let me ask you that
>>341486750
The City and the Sky is probably the closest you think of
>the skyloftians fucked thier birds and made horrible hybrids
>>341486056
Twilight princess has native americans
>>341486750
I hate the of there being a game and as such an even bigger timeskip between OoT and TP.
>>341484271
A stationary guardian enemy can fuck you up in one hit if you're not buffed up in preparation. I'm inclined to trust them on action difficulty this time.
Am I the only one that DOESN'T want this to be part of the WW timeline, or not related to OoT at all?
I feel like after Skyward Sword or the decline would be the more interesting ones. Specially decline.
>>341474880
Ya know technically every single game could just end up with a split the way OoT did.
>>341477356
>ganondorf is a wandering old man
DIABLO x ZELDA CONFIRMED
>>341487124
This would actually be cool if we got recurring main antagonists like Malladus, Bellum and Vaati.
>>341486604
that's so crazy and logical it might just work
FUND IT
>>341486750
I don't think so, but there was in Skyward Sword
>>341486325
It was basically the worst thing they could have possibly done with an official timeline. It's very clearly a product of laziness, not wanting to think of how games like ALttP and Zelda II fit within the two-branch timeline, but the result is that the timeline becomes needlessly convoluted due to the possibility of infinite timeline splits.
>>341486578
>even WW Link wasn't the hero reincarnated
He's not the Hero of Time, but he is an incarnation of the Hero from before SS
>>341487491
Not as it used to be, because the split that happens in OoT is very specifically because of Zelda's actions in that game, which aren't repeated in any other.
>>341474437
>same place on the tp trailer
> wolf link is until now the only amiibo
>technology
> Master sword isn´t in Ganondorfs head.
> Majoras Mask Button on his Bag
post or pre tp
>>341486604
>The Spirits thought that their super powerful tech was just magic.
WAIT
NOW THAT I THINK ABOUT IT
THE TWILIGHT REALM PALACE LOOKS A LOT LIKE THOSE FUCKING SHRINES
>>341486645
Everything being deserted seems pretty Pro-Wind Waker. There are a lot of spaces in that timeline that create a deserted Hyrule:
-before Wind Waker, after Ganon wins, before the flood happens (and civilization is waiting to be restored on the surface above)
-before Wind Waker, after Ganon wins, after the flood happens and everyone's gone from the undersea bubble that old Hyrule exists inside
-after Wind Waker, when Ganon defeats WW Link and restores old Hyrule, there's no sea above it anymore but it's still empty
-LONG after Wind Waker, with WW Link victorious, and the flood eventually receded and mainland Hyrule is a frontier ready to be resettled
>>341487657
>but he is an incarnation
Fuck NO.
WW Link is an everyday kid that loves to go into adventure and eventually becomes the Hero after a long trial. He is not an incarnation at all.
>>341487763
Every game can have win/lose conditions resulting in a split.
>>341486684
What if that shadow boar thing is like an enhanced version of Phantom Ganon?
My theory is that this Link is the Hero's Shade that trains you in TP, ressurected by the Sheikah as he was the one known to them.
>>341487081
You can fix those too with enough elbow grease
>>341474437
I think the story might have something to do with link defeating ganondorf and dungeons which all have key items to pass through them
I MIGHT be wrong though
>>341475273
>>341480967
Baseless theory time.
ZeldaU takes place at the end of all timelines. This game is taking place in a new universe, a 'reboot' universe. Nintendo has already implied reboot, so they're placing this game in a new timeline that's the result of all three timelines somehow becoming distorted, breaking, and merging into one.
This is why nothing adds up and we have things from multiple timelines in one game. Because this is the result of all three timelines converging together. It's entirely possible the reason Link wakes up in the weird shiekah revival chamber is because his soul, along with Zelda and possibly Ganondorf's, were thrown around during this time due to his connection with the triforce. This Link is a fusion of all three timeline's souls. It's possible we could see three 'Zelda's or just have one. This also raises possibilities out the ass for character shenanigans.
Also shoehorning in my baseless speculation that you get to customize Link's appearance to an extent, because the intro gives off the idea that his body is artificial.
>>341486402
Considering that an evil version of Link appears with the interlopers, Dark Link could be the big bad in this game. That or you find out that this Link is being manipulated by the Sheikah, and eventually HE becomes the "Dark Link".
The only hole in this theory is why Ganon would be free prior to Twilight Princess in the Child Timeline, if he was immediately arrested and banished to the twilight realm after OoT. My only explanation could be that he hasn't been banished yet. Simply arrested and magically imprisoned. The events in this game could lead up to his banishment.
>>341487406
Its been so long since we got a wind waker timeline game, I am thrilled we are finally getting another.
Wasn't a link between worlds decline?
>>341487939
but the shield he gets from his grandma is a family heirloom right? so if it was passed down through generations then he is a descendant of the hero of time
>>341487939
The chosen heroes don't have to be blood-related, but the "Spirit of the Hero" very much makes them pre-designated by fate.
>>341487946
What if it's just a really big boss monster on top of a mountain?
>>341487940
Now it does, because they were stupid enough to make the Decline timeline. Before the split was solely because Zelda wanted Link to have a childhood, and so sent him back in time to cause Ganon to be ousted before he could wage war. Now suddenly the timeline can split because TP Link happened to stub his toe on a rock when he could have avoided it, or SS Link falling off of Skyloft like an idiot and causing no heroes to be born.
>>341488086
You are definitely wrong, queer.
So has nobody else noticed that the ressurection chamber Link wakes up in is an opened up Guardian?. Maybe all the guardians have people inside them in some sort of cryostasis?
>>341487406
If this game is to not be related to OoT, then it has to take place before it, because every game in the setting taking place after OoT is directly affected by its multiple-reality shenanigans.
>>341486604
One thing that's always been bugging me is that the completed Fused Shadow is reminiscent of Majora's Mask. And if you look at old fan theory for Termina, you come to a logical conclusion that the natives of Termina turned their backs on the Goddesses for being feminine, embraced the masculine Four Giants as their gods, and as punishment for the heresy of building the Stone Temple the Goddesses inverted it, turned it into a place of death, and unleashed Majora, who is a noticeably female demon, onto the natives. Even more puzzling was how Majora would call Deity Link, an extremely masculine entity, the "real bad guy" at the end of the fight. This then begs the questions about whether or not the Shiekah created both the Fused Shadow and Majora's Mask, if the ancient Shiekah were enemies of the Goddesses, and whether or not they created a Link clone in order to get revenge on the Goddesses since his engineered bloodline could technically fool any warning flags the Goddesses could have put on shrines and temples.
>>341487113
This would be pretty badass.
Or how about:
>Link in BotW is not just A Link but also a SUPER Link due to the timelines converging and the Sheikah putting the spirits of all three Links from each timeline into one body
>this is why he wakes up where he does in BotW, he's more of a clone, a magically-constructed humonculous made to be the perfect champion rather than Link's usually more humble origins
The setup reminds me a lot of Crystalis.
>>341487939
He's got the "spirit of the hero". It's metaphysical shit, so it's best not to think about it too much.
>>341487406
In Decline though, it could only work as either an OoT sequel or a sequel to the NES games.
However by the end of the NES games, Ganon is dead and stayed dead. There is no Link that needs reviving and no Ganondorf on the verge of being unsealed.
>>341487657
No, he specifically isn't. WW Link is not any incarnation the Hero, he was just a kid who's sister was kidnapped.
>>341488129
Oh also it'd be pretty neat to somehow discover the lore of past games and how the timelines exactly converged.
It'd also be neat if the main plot wasn't just "Ganondorf lol" but literally repairing the universe.
>>341488160
In WW, all male kids, when they hit the teen age, will get a green tunic, a shield and a sword, as a way to honour the hero of legend.
>>341487263
You will get cute shit and like it!
>>341488129
Or... what if..
Nintendo got so sick of all the timeline bullshit that they decided to just do a spiritual "remake" of the first game, toss in a bunch of random notes to prior games and this game will soft reboot the entire franchise moving forward so we can all go back to just ignoring timelines in general.
The official timeline is such trash. Oracles being between ALttP/LA because MUH BOAT
Nevermind the fact Link meets Zelda for the first time in the Linked Game...
>>341487785
>majoras mask button on his bag
[Citation needed]
>>341488129
>>341488591You're both right.
>>341488435
glad i'm not the only one. for a long time as a child I didn't realize Crystalis wasn't Zelda.
>>341488573
right but doesn't he get a specific shield passed down from family? an honourary random sword and shield is one thing but the real deal is another
maybe i'm remembering this wrong, i haven't played WW in ages
>>341488253
the way they did it pretty much just renders the first few games non canon
>>341488358
pic?
>>341488505
>>341488201
>Spirit of the Hero
Which, as the anon said, doesn't mean shit. Spirit of the hero means he is brave and pure of heart. Not an incarnation.
Guys, if this is post-WW Hyrule it means that the mountains were the islands in WW.
>climb a mountain
>at the very summit there's an abandoned boat with a lion face
I'd literally shit myself.
>>341488358
I would bet more on the Guardians originally were under the control of the Shiekah to protect this bio-Link, but with them all dead the machines are running rampant.
>>341488201
He wasn't the chosen hero though, which was why he had to go through all those trials to wield the Master Sword.
>>341488152
I hope not, I always imagined the evil links were a way of communicating that the Twili weren't always evil outsiders, they were people like you who went down a dark-path. A literal evil link would be ghey.
>>341488912
That's how he got chosen.
>>341488850
This. This is what it will happen. On the top of the highest mountains we will find
>A red boat
>Train rails
>Linebeck skellington
>>341488850
if this doesn't happen i will LITERALLY kill myselfafter i finish Breath of the Wild
How cute will this game's girls be, do you think?
>>341488358
>all of the guardians you slaughter contain Link clones inside of them
>the Sheikah manipulated the curse of Demise to such extreme extents that they created a literal clone army of Links to protect Hyrule
Jesus fucking Christ we're going full Evangelion now, Link is Rei Ayanami with the guardians being the equivalent to soulless dummy plugs.
>>341488992
People who take the Dark Links from TP literally are retards.
>>341489047
>Linebeck skellington
>Implying said skeleton wouldn't be running a shop.
>>341478892
Ganon getting stronger, again? Maybe he undid the flood.
>>341489060
Link has girly cute covered in SPADES
>>341488253
>because they were stupid enough to make the Decline timeline
Well had to to put the best games in there somehow or else it would have been just another wank fest for OoT babies who look to far into things. At least with the good games on there we know deep down that it's just Nintendo saying "Here, we put all the games in lines will you people please shut the hell up and go away now?".
>>341488829
Yeah the Spirit is really just like being marked by fate. It ties in with the whole origin triangle of the triforce: Power is tied to one man, Wisdom a bloodline, and Courage can arise from anywhere.
>>341489060
>girl
What if they crash the 3 timelines into one?. You know, magic
>>341489047
Linebeck was buried.
Now Linebeck III....
>>341488129
Yeah you can customize his appearance, besides the clothing they were messing with there were a few parts shown with him in some kind of shiny gold and red armor pieces with his hair tied up in a different style, and one where he had on a full suit of knight armor minus helmet
>>341483974
>>341485554
Impossible, Skyloft has landed.
Unless it lifts off or something.
>>341489047
>Train rails
>Linebeck
Nah, they fucked off to another place. Remember they sailed to find a new Hyrule?
>>341489179
>Running a shop
>On the top of Hyrule's highest mountain
I need this to happen
so the master sword is supposedly rusted from being underwater and shit, right? But that doesn't make any sense, because only the lower section is rusted, if it were underwater in Ganons head the upper part would have rust. It's also interesting that the tip of the blade isn't rusted either.
Here's my retarded theory: The master sword was not damaged from the water. Ganondorf was the one damaging it. But how could Ganon do that if it killed him in Wind Waker? Answer is simple, it didn't. It simply encased him in stone, but he was still alive and conscious. We know that there was a good portion of the blade that didn't enter his skull, and it's safe to assume that the end of the blade went past his head and into his neck. The rusted portion of the blade is also the part of the blade that was in Ganons brain. If you look at pic related, the stone is "wider" than Ganon. Ganon didn't turn to stone, he was encased in it.
So what the fuck am I trying to say here? Basically, this is how it went down. WW Link shoves the sword into Ganons head. Some of it goes past his brain and into his neck, the middle is in his brain, and the rest of the sword is outside. Ganon is then encased in stone. Ganon is still alive. Ganon is stuck here, unable to move, unable to see, only able to think about the pain of having a sword jammed into his fucking skull. That pain and anger fueled his evil, and over hundreds of years his evil powers are rusting away at the sword. But only in the portion touching his brain, because thats where evil thoughts are located. Now, if you notice in the trailer, you don't see the rusted portion when it's inside the pedestal. You see the rust when it fades out to the logo. That means that the rusted portion is underground (obviously). And what would that mean? It means Ganon is underground as well.
Im calling it now, as soon as you pull out the Master Sword in Botw, Ganon will burst out of the ground and beat the shit out of you.
>>341489092
Reminds me of that semi-recent Tom Cruise movie actually. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oblivion_%282013_film%29
PLEASE, TRY TO RELAY
THERE IS PLENTY OF TIME
>>341489060
I hope Zelda gets a cute voice.
How do you guys like voice acting? Old Man being voiceless is confusing, but the "Link wake up" can't possibly be the only voiced part.
Thoughts?
>>341486604
>Sheikah are actually the Illuminati
>Zelda is a fantasy conspiracy thriller
whoa
>>341489280
You think it would be creative or something but it would actually just be fucking lazy to say "time travel" and "time glitches".
>>341489292
>We will meet Linebeck XVI
>>341488152
>>341486402
I'm willing to accept that this game is prior to Twilight Princess around the time of the Interloper War. My only question is why the Master Sword is in such terrible shape? I get that it hasn't been touched since OoT, before it was moved to the forest. But the Master Sword is in perfect condition in Twilight Princess.
In TP, it could be that it hasn't been too long since the last Link held it.
This game will need to explain it though.
We all agree that adult Link in OoT got Malon pregnant, right? It's the only way for him to have blood descendants in all the timelines, and unlike Ganon / Demise both Link and Zelda need to have descendants in order to be reincarnated. (Link's family being from the Royal Guard, Zelda's family being the Royal Family.)
>>341489585
The voice we've heard is probably Zelda.
>>341489224
It's not the fans' fault Nintendo gave OoT two direct sequels in two alternate realities. They started this shit.
>>341485419
Yeah, but you know what ISN'T in sunken hyrule? Koroks. The only reason Koroks would be down there is because the ocean receded, otherwise there was no way down until Link opened one in Wind Waker.
>>341489585
maybe they can turn off VA for gameplay.
>>341489468
And by the way, autists, Im talking about Ganondorf this whole time but character limit sucks ass
>>341479861
>for quite some time
YOU SEEM KIND OF PHONEY
>>341483875
semantics d00d
>>341489494
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cLoytewvn0g
>>341489228
http://zeldawiki.org/Luda
>>341489468
>But only in the portion touching his brain, because thats where evil thoughts are located.
I kekked at this and I don't know why.
>>341489358
Either it will lift off at some point in the actual game OR it's already lifted off at the start and the game is set in the period where everyone was fighting off Demise already. Only Demise at first is 'Calamity Ganon' and at the very end, Ganondorf levels up, obtains full on Satan form, becomes Demise, and you fight him as the final boss again.
>>341489674
I would bet on the Master Sword falling into a state of decay to reflect OoT's Link / Hero of Time's transformation from a Hylian to a Stalfos, and cryo-Link is the one who ends up restoring it.
>>341489614
>Sheikah are The Watchers
>>341489689
Hylians just fucked everyone ages ago. The only thing that Link needs is to have Hylian ancestry; he's not a regular bloodline.
>>341489674
Didn't the interloper war take place before OoT though?
Wind waker prequel. My dad works at Nintendo
>>341489734
What if they fell through a glitchy wall inside the deku tree (who must have a dungeon inside him like the old one did because come on), and his roots reach down to old Hyrule? They can't get back up from that, and only Link has the power the respawn at the doorway!
>>341489896
What the fuck, I thought it was male all along
>people still think this is a real "Link."
He's a fake. The lack of a tunic, the right-handedness... We are being taken on a ruse cruise. This is Medic all over again.
>>341490208
Nope. Little girl.
Two things:
1) This Link is one who was previously featured
2) This Link had to have died to be ressurected
>>341490042
It's theorized that it took place a generation after Skyward Sword in what's called "The Era of Chaos", but the lack of specifics in both the Interloper War and the Era of Chaos make it difficult to say.
>>341489689
>both Link and Zelda need to have descendants in order to be reincarnated
That's not how it works
>>341490229
Being taken on a ruse cruise is what I want. If any series would benefit most from some nice big ruse cruises, it's Zelda.
>>341477843
His hair color suggests that it does take place pre-WW then. Sick.
I have no explanation for all the tech though.
>>341490439
This Link was a created by the Shiekah to serve some sort of purpose, and him waking up means that either he's been "activated" or an emergency protocol has been triggered. What we're trying to figure out is what's the situation in this Hyrule to make this robo-Link wake up and where it takes place in the established timeline. Everyone here seems to agree this isn't a "natural" Link.
>>341490557
Why would there need to be explanation?
The only indication of where technology was at pre-flood was the Tower of the Gods, which was ultra high-tech.
>>341490557
>His hair color suggests that it does take place pre-WW then
Wat
>>341477843
The old man is just an old man and nothing more.
>>341489468
>But only in the portion touching his brain, because that's where evil thoughts are located
10/10
>>341490042
The interloper war and the triforce war are not the same.
>>341490917
t. ganondorf
>>341490750
>Anouma says you can ignore the story, go and fight the final boss right away and just finish it
>but you won't know how or why Link was waken up, and by who
The mystery deepens
>"Wild Link" in Smash 5
>Wildly new moveset and creative character
>Heavy customization like Palutnia
>Everyone bitches "huuuuur 3 Links"
>Zelda: BotW
>Zelda: BOT W
>>341489494
>Zelda: please try to relax, Link. There is plenty of time.
>Zelda: Don't panic but you... Have been in cryo-stasis for quite some time.
>Zelda: I'm afraid it's been... 100 years.
>>341491034
He doesn't have to be a fully fleshed out character. He's likely just the modern equivalent of the old guy in the cave who shows you his dick from the first game.
>>341490165
As much as I really want this to be the case, the endgame timeline convergence/loop seems like the most plausible theory right now.
>>341491401
It will be hard to convince people otherwise anon, he looks too similar. Ganondorf and King both kinda look the same
>>341490917
The old man was waiting for Link to come out of the cave at the very beginning. He knew someone was in there. He knows something and it's probably a more important character than we tought.
>>341491345
STANDING
>>341475524
city in the sky
REMINDERS:
>Dark Interlopers / Dark Tribe / Twili / Ancient Tribe are all the same
>all created the Fused Shadow and Majora's Mask
>all know how to cross Realms and dimensions
>Shiekah literally means "Shadow People"
>Shiekah have access to high-tech and are experts at shadow magic
>Shiekah literally have their symbol on the Shadow Temple
tl;dr: hold on to your butts, Shiekah are actually evil
>>341490750
The fact that the voice tells Link his light must shine upon Hyrule once again tells me he's done this before. Also, why would robo-Link be bothered by temperature if he's artificial
>>341491998
But they have protected Zelda for generations, Impa in Skyward Sword played that role too because the goddess spoke to her, they are loyal to the goddess Hylia.
>>341492256
The Goddess have turned on us and we get to kill more Gods. Truly Nippon's favorite pass time.
>>341475524
Ok so guys is it
Ayy) A spaceship
B) A skyloft-like floating island
C) Pancake moon
>>341491998
>Zelda will be a conspiracy thriller too
what a deal
>>341492436
Gonna go with B.
>>341492256
Impa is the only Shiekah we've met, and she only functions to protect Zelda. Either Impa is an anomaly within the tribe, or there was a split in the tribe with some lusting after power from the Triforce and forcing them to get banished, but their ability to "planeswalk" allowed them to survive being sealed in the Dark World.
>>341492436
It moves. It moves in avery spooky and gross way. It almost look like an organic floating Island.
>>341492436
Definitely looks like some sort of flying fortress
>>341492183
Just because he's a robort doesn't mean his circuitry can't be damaged by extreme temperature. His synthetic skin and reaction algorithms also allow play a part to stop him discovering what he really is.
>>341475524
looks like a type of plane to me, don't know why people are freaking out over ayys.
>>341492183
Not that anon, but it's possible that he's also a clone or a synthetic life form.maybe the Sheikah gave him the ability to eat, sleep and feel and the like so that he and others wouldn't question his true origins as some artificial construct that isn't the real hero.
>>341475524
Laputa
>>341492665
or the sheikah are vessels with all-encompassing goals and purpose, and no understanding of the greater sphere of the Sheikah
i.e. Impa protecting Zelda would be for ulterior motives but Impa would not know why, nor attempt to understand
>>341489886
Underrated post.
>>341491335
I prefer Zelda: BOW
>>341485554
HOLD UP
They're clearly taking notes from Dragon's Dogma and SOTC here, and Dragon's Dogma has the exact same cyclical nature shtick.
>>341475524
Why the fuck is everybody overreacting? It's just a spaceship from Earth carrying Christian missionaries to explain the fact that there was a Bible in Zelda 1.
>>341489886
>yfw his shorts are styled like Sheik's pants
>has access to Sheikah magitech
Is link Sheikah?
>>341492941
Pretty sure he's human there is nothing about him that suggests otherwise, he needs to eat food to recovery hearts and weather effects him. A better guess is maybe the Link of that world fucked up or something and this is back up Link.
>>341491070
Calling it, somehow Ganon is the good guy, the game will have at least two different endings. If you go straight to Ganon and kill him you get a bad ending, like Ganon was keeping in check an even greater evil or something. If you take the time to trigger all of the correct story scenes/beat the dungeons, only then will you be able to get the true ending revealing how the Sheikah are using Link for their own ends.
>>341486357
>magical native american
What
>>341491998
>Shiekah literally have their symbol on the Shadow Temple
What did they use this temple for? I have always wondered, it seems more like a catacomb or something.
>>341493375
Renado
>>341486604
The dark interlopers are obviously the guys fuckin with Majora's Mask, Midna's helmet has the same eye.
>>341493373
I'm guessing old man WAS Ganon/dorf, lost his power, and now Ganon is unchecked and became Calamity Ganon.
>>341489674
>>341489946
Yeah it sounds plausible that the Master Sword is decaying because OoT Link was the last person to hold it, and he became a Stalfos. The current Link could have been created by the Sheikah. I'm willing to bet that they some how found a way to reincarnate a previous Link prior to OoT's Link, because they believe he died without leaving any decedents (it could be Skyward Sword's Link or maybe The Minish Cap).
Upon picking up the Master Sword, it resonates with him and returns to its former glory.
If he does end up becoming a Dark Link, it could be because he follows the Sheikah and the Sheikah aren't necessarily evil, they just don't agree with how the Royal Family is running things, so they rebel. They truly believe that what they are doing is right, and so does Link. The Royal Family wins, and thus history is written by the victors, so the Sheikah and their sympathizers are branded as Dark Interlopers and banished to the Twilight Realm.
REMINDER that the Shiekah want Impa to protect Zelda so Ganon doesn't kill her, and then force her to manifest Hylia to use the Goddess' power to break open the Sacred Realm and claim the Triforce, but their main problem is outplanning the Goddess of Time, so they've been constructing a biological clone of Link to confuse the balances of Good and Evil within Hyrule and cause Hylia's power to wane, making her weak enough to be defeated.
There is no Ganon in this game, only illusions to make the world react in such a way as to force a Zelda to appear.
>>341484175
I'd rather have a shirtless Audrey shivering.
>>341492892
>>341492941
This sounds like a really bad fanfic and is baseless conjecture. All signs point to him being human. I think it's more likely that he's OoT's Link from the defeated timeline (or at the very least, a Link we've already played as). The line about Hyrule needing him again points towards that
AND IF THE SHIEKAH ARE THE DARK INTERLOPERS, THAT EXPLAINS WHY THEY ARE NEARLY EXTINCT IN HYRULE DURING OCARINA OF TIME BECAUSE THE MAJORITY OF THE TRIBE WAS SEALED IN THE DARK WORLD USING THE MIRROR
>>341493995
>This sounds like a really bad fanfic and is baseless conjecture
no shit just 'aving a giggle m8
>>341492256
>But they have protected Zelda for generations
Isnt that kind of a trope?
>Group of people serving the royal family for generations get tired of serving and try to take over the realm
Like the guy malik from yugioh
>>341480967
I feel that the game would be placed in a new segment of the timeline, specifically the Wind Waker Link dies segment. Link dies before getting the Master Sword, Ganondorf eventually finds all prices of the Triforce to bring Hyrule back from its undersea slumber to conquer it with little trouble since the world before hyrule came up didn't even have much of a police force unless you count Valoo, Deku Tree and Jabun but they shouldnt be too difficult to handle.
The revived Link could be OOT adult link or Skyward Sword Link judging by BOTW Link and where he wakes up.
Or maybe Nintendo says fuck it to part of Wind Waker's backstory and it takes place before Wind Waker and after OOT in the small time-frame when Ganondorf revived and Hyrule needed a savior, they revive the hero of time but he fails and the king who has the Triforce asks the Gods to flood Hyrule.
Fuck, maybe it takes place before the creation of Hyrule and we get some paradox shit and everything recreates itself for all eternityWhich explains why this franchise keeps going and will continue to do so.
>>341494224
>Malik
Stop this shit you non-weeb, you don't know what you're talking about.
>>341485736
Ganon/Ganondorf hasn't been the main villain since Twilight Princess, which was 10 years ago. We're actually fucking overdue for having Ganon as the main villain again.
>>341491786
damn that is a really good screenshot.
>>341493893
>but their main problem is outplanning the Goddess of Time
>There is no Ganon in this game, only illusions to make the world react in such a way as to force a Zelda to appear.
t. kojima
>>341491335
>The Legend of Zelda: Breath of The Wild
>Aonuma admits that this the time subtitle in the series where the subtitle doesn't refer to an important item, character or event, but to a metaphorical concept that is key to the game's story
Assuming that This Link, really is a robot, then
>Breathe= life, awakening, reactivation
>of the wild = humanity, life, letting go of his purpose and cycle, discovering his humanity
tl;dr,
>Breath of th Wild: Awakening of Humanity, Awkening of Freedom from the cycle, Becoming Human
>>341491998
The Sheikah are like the Men In Black or some intelligence agency like the CIA. They aren't evil, but they are dark. If they use evil tactics they believe the end justifies their means.
>>341493893
>engineer a Link to exist
>engineer a Ganon to exist
>"outplanning the Goddess of Time"
I am quite erect.
>>341493723
>Ganondorf will finally be free of Demise's curse, and is just a chill old dude trying to help out the hero
>this Ganondorf will be even more developed than the one in WW
>>341494631
as somebody put it:
>the power to "see the truth"
>the eye symbol
>which is also featured in apparently unrelated places EVERYWHERE
>a secret elite
>serving only the godesses themselves
illuminati
It's clearly Hyrule after the flood waters receded and vegetation grew back. Hence why it isn't full of people and described as a wilderness. The old man is Dorf who came back after someone pulled the sword out of his stone prison
>>341494224
Worked for the Mamluks
>>341493995
>this sounds like really bad fanfic
>but let me share my theory that also sounds like really bad fanfic even though this Link looks nothing like the Hero of Time
If he's a clone, then he's a clone of SS Link or maybe ALTTP Link or o e of the downfall Links. He only really resembles those.
>>341491401
he's confirmed to be more like Kaepora Gaebora. the recurring mentor/hint character. he's also who you trade in the Spirit Orbs (Temple rewards) to, exchanging them for equipment.
>>341474757
>Zelda
>lore
>>341493723
>game actually is post receeded water Wind Waker
>the curse has seeped from the sealed Dork's body because muh anger
>Ganondork's body is unsealed without the curse/his personality slips out of his body after the curse leaves and infest King Urinal
It's impossible, but considering we have artificial Link, Ayylmao invasions and possibly meaningful physics? Sounds legit.
Man these theories are so crazy they make me really excited for the OPTIONAL story this time around, but I wonder if we will get something as radical.
Regardless, more Sheikah lore is always great to have, it is clear they are the focus of this game.
>>341493458
it's an actual dungeon. for imprisoning, torturing, and executing people. sheikah were the intelligence agency of the kingdom.
If this is post WW, someone had to free Ganondorf. He couldn't extract the sword from his head alone, no way.
>>341495560
I'm hyping myself up so badly through these threads, and I'm going to be so disappointed, but whatever. I haven't had this much fun talking about Zelda since before TP came out.
>>341495560
I wonder if the names of those sages hide some kind of secret.
calamity ganon isnt a giant spooky horned demon
it's just a big ghost pig.
>>341495248
Anon, every Link outside of Toon Link looks nearly the same. It all just depends on artstyle and available tech at the time. Don't be dumb
>>341496069
This the symbol of Hylia right?
>>341495297
>game actually is post receeded water Wind Waker
This has to be what it is. Like 1000 years after. Anyone saying that it's pre-WW is an idiot and doesn't realize that the flood happened because there was no Link to save them from Ganon.
Was Link really sleeping for 100 years or is this some meme bullshit?
>>341475524
CAN YOU SLINGSHOT ONTO IT USING THAT TRICK WITH BUILDING UP MOMENTUM ON A ROCK AND THEN RIDING IT
THIS IS IMPORTANT
>>341493458
I have always been kin to the theory that Bongo Bongo was a Shiekah that created the Lens and Mask of Truth, and used his house (which used to be located where the Well / Shadow Temple is located) as a place to extort "confessions" from Hylians while looking for some "real truth", resulting in several deaths, but was ultimately caught and had his hands cut off and was executed by mortals around the same time the rest of the Shiekah were banished to the Dark World.
>>341496089
Oman Au (Shrine #1) is an anagram of Aonuma. I imagine a lot of them are anagrams of people's names and shit like that.
>>341496516
Nobody tried to do that yet, I think.
>>341496089
One of the sage's name was an anagram of Aonuma. It's possible that they named them after the developers.
Reminder that the Tower of the Gods was Sheikah tech
Reminder that Temple of Time in TPHD has an easteregg showing stuff from each timeline. We /convergence/ boys.
>>341496638
>Oman Au (Shrine #1) is an anagram of Aonuma
Thins kind of shit makes my dick hard
>>341496905
any pics?
>>341496581
his head looks like a dick
>>341491034
Okay. I'm sorry. But, I've lurked, and I've lurked, and I've lurked. I've desperately tries to piece the puzzle together so I finally give up.
What the fuck does t. mean?
>>341496842
>The tower of gods was built to test the sleeping hero
>A little kid stole BotW Link's trial and sword
>>341497121
that would be the neck where is head was removed, he was suspended and quartered according to this theory if i recall
>>341497183
>because it's all machinery, it doesn't recognize that this boy is a separate entity from their own created Link
>>341496924
>Final Shrine
>Ta Iwa
>It's just a peaceful place with flowers.
>>341497159
it means regards in Finnish or some shit
>>341497159
t. Lying newfaggot
>>341497070
I didn't save it like a retard but it was in a lore thread yesterday. Let me see if I can check the archives for it. Hopefully some other fag will beat me to it.
>>341489712
I hope it's not.
>>341491145
>Smash 5
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha no after how poorly Smash has been doing I doubt we'll ever see it again. Plus Sakurai is tired of it and good riddance, he sucks.
>>341497332
i would set the controller down and softly weep
How could Link let her get in that state?
>>341496842
So the Sheikah are like the Jews from Wolfenstein: The New Order?
>>341497332
Fuck you man I was having a nice day until this
>>341497332
No, please, no
>>341497070
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4IXdJFE6D6c
28:40
>>341497159
Basically 'from'
>>341495259
>He wants the protected orbs that are being kept safe by the shiekah out of evil's reach
If that was the King, the royal line the shiekah serve, he wouldn't need to manipulate Link into fetching them. It's Ganondorf.
This Link is a macguffin-retrieval-tool that Ganondorf uses like a mechanical arm to safely retrieve shit that's been protected from evil.
>>341496264
Yes. And you give those to Gan- i mean, the old man :^)
>>341497332
>One fo the sages is called Birno Liawilm
What is it guys?
>>341497538
>after how poorly Smash has been doing
4 million sold as of April last year.
>>341496581
>mfw I realized that this thing fucking sings while you're fighting him
But yeah, most people who theory craft about this stuff think the same thing. I don't remember if the game ever mentioned a Sheikah traitor, but it would explain why guarding his prison fell to the Sheikah.
>>341497856
STOP
>>341482645
obviously nintendo never gave a fuck about continuity and shouldn't, but I don't see why it can't be fun to try and fit it all together anyway. i enjoy how stupidly convoluted the fan theories have become.
>>341497892
What video is this from anyway?
>>341497070
Found it.
>Sheikah are actually evil, their alliance to the Royal family is just a facade
>plan to take over Hyrule via space and time warping shenanigans thanks to the timeshift stones
>accidentally wake Ganon up somehow by fucking with Demise's time curse
>Ganon absorbs most of their time technology's power, becoming Calamity Ganon
>Calamity Ganon throws BoTW's Hyrule into Lordran effect cycle where timelines are converging
>this could pissibly destroy all known existence within the Zeldaverse
>Timeline convergence is also bringing about the real Links from other games
>Sheikah crest punished Link to combat all of this
>since the real Links are thrones that define change in the overall Zelda timeline, punished Link must kill the converging real Links to end these timelines, stopping the convergence from happening In BoTW's Hyrule
>basically the Sheikah are killing two birds with one stone thanks to
Punished Link, destroying the timelines and inevitably Calamity Ganon so that they can take over.
I hope there's a sidequest involving a letter from the old man to the old woman that opens a potion shop. It'd be a nice throwback.
I'm a huge MGS fag. I just want to let you guys know that if you keep on making these elaborate fanfictions and theories, you might end up being very disappointed. I know you guys are all excited for the game, and I am too, but this game isn't coming out until 2017. Don't get hyped, just forget that Zelda exists for a little while. I think it would be best that way.
>>341489060
Character designs seem pretty good so far
I just hope there are decent races
>>341498164
>that fucking manlet link
but looks like gorons, humans, rito and s giant occoo
>>341493916
this
>>341486170
hmm, i like this one.
>>341494793
>>341493893
>the shiekiah wanted to put an end to the cycle so they could "defeat" the spirit of Demise for good and finally let Hyrule rebuild itself into a proper new world
>to do this, they first build clone/robo Lunks to fulfill the obligitory Triforce of Courage wielder spot needed
>then they somehow manage to split the spirit of Demise from Dorfy and allow the spirit to rampage as "Calamity Ganon" whilst the actual Ganondorf is free of his suffering, to fulfill the Triforce of Power wielder spot
>they did this in hopes of bringing out of hiding Zelda to complete the trio to set all the players into their roles
>the Shiekiah then set up as much shit as possible to "test" the hero and ensure he not only gits gud enough to be a true hero, but also uses him to power up the "Old Man", who is actually Ganondorf, to let him help you defeat Demise
>they even likely had a plan to deal with Zelda trying to screw up everything and going back to status quo if she tried to attack the Dorf
>yfw the game is all about the cycle being broken, and allowing Lunk, Ganondorf and Zelda to be free of this cycle at last as they finally put this madness to bed for good and Ganondorf finally gets peace at last
>yfw this is the game where basically the Shiekiah ruse basically god herself and fix shit after ages of the same story playing out
>all as a perfect way for the series to reboot and allow new shit to happen
>>341498273
nobody really expects the story to be elaborate or throw any curve balls, it's just memery
Vally of the Flood
>World is in ruins
>Far off Castle covered in magic (trapped in time?)
>everything is dying and people are losing hope
>Create trials so that one day a new hero will come and prove himself
>Restart a dying world Noah style
Post WW doesnt really make any sense because the timeline goes on into different lands and hyrule is under the sea
>>341498273
I can't. This game is life now, help.
>>341496638
I'm almost afraid of what lies within the Lil Ninbert shrine.
Why is there a crypt underneath the well? Were the Kakariko people drinking the remains of dead people without realizing it?
>>341496467
It's a ruse cruise.
This Link isn't even the real deal, but a clone or a bot.
He's Punished Link.
I was thinking that maybe the Koroks drained Hyrule when they planted those trees, but then I remembered that the only thing they said they were doing was creating new forests or some shit like that.
>>341498164
Nice of Nintendo to give Todd Howard a cameo.
>>341498831
>Dead bodies of female dogs
>>341474437
>Can I give you something...?
You sure can big boy. You're made of wood and all, and my tight little boypussy has been wet for awhile now soooo...
>>341498859
Literally a Shiekah underground torture complex to find some sort of truth, which is why the Lens of Truth is down there.
>>341498864
And Punished Link is(You).
>>341496842
>Sheikah made the Tower of the Gods
>They made the Guardians and the Shrines
>Are most likely the Dark Interlopers (who became the twilight people)
>Probably made the robots and all of the hi-tech stuff in Skyward Sword
HOW DEEP DOES THE RABBIT HOLE GO?
Koroks, huh?
I hope that Zora and Gorons appear.
>>341484228
Dear Lord it's the Aurum from KI: U
>>341498164
Decline / Adult / Child
Why is the triforce only on decline tho.
>>341498968
DELET THIS
>>341498164
what are the odds that, given all the time shift themes in recent zeldas, the BOTW finally reunites the timelines?
it could be perfect
>>341499125
And somebody thought it was a good fucking idea to put a well here?
>>341498164
Nobody had a counterargument in that thread for the idea that it's just showing a progression over time of people transforming from Skyloftians to hybrid bird people to Ooccoo, and has nothing to do with the Rito.
>>341499371
How would that even work?
And no "Time is convoluted in HYRULE" is not a fucking excuse
>>341499328
something something the royal family has access to the triforce post lttp.
>>341499165
>created the Lanayru desert ruins and mines
>created the timeshift stones from SS
>created Majora's Mask
>likely created this Link, who's just a robot or a clone to fulfill their goals
Goes pretty deep tbqhfam
![Twilight_Majora_by_Nayru_Scholar[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/Mjl6L2A.jpg "Twilight Majora by Nayru Scholar[1]")
>>341499165
Wait until you realize that the Sheikah created propaganda to entice the people of Termina to stop following the Goddesses and build the Stone Temple to create the Fierce Deity Mask in an attempt to kill Hylia.
>>341499371
It makes no sense.
Multiverse 101: you can't converge multiverses, just split more universes.
>>341498016
That's only 40% of Wii U's sold. Terrible.
>>341499672
>>341499702
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>341499643
the sheika trying to repair the fabric of space and time by reuniting the shattered timelines of hyrule?
sounds big enough for a game like BOTW
I'm confused about one thing.
In the videos we've seen that Koroks exist in the BotW world which would suggest that the games timeline is somewhere around WW.
However the old man and sages mention the Goddess Hylia. Didn't Hylia decide to reincarnate into Zelda around Skyward Sword? Did Hylia exist and was she worshipped after that reincarnation at all?
>>341499556
>has nothing to do with the Rito.
>Shows a Rito
Uhhhh
>>341488576
>Wolf buddy can die
>>341499165
>Their gossip stones are everywhere
>watching you
>keeping track of time...until?
fresh bread pls
>>341499963
It's gotta be timeline convergence
>>341499991
Did you not read the rest of the post or something?
>>341497332
Senpai no....My heart couldn't take something like that.
>>341499893
Why would they even bring this out of nowhere?
Having different timelines doesn't mean that there's something wrong with the fabric of space and time.
At most they may be able to look into the different timelines and fearing that a chosen one might not show up like after OoT Adult timeline they decided to create their own one in the image of the legends.
>>341499702
>the Twili were some of the Sheikah
>Majora's mask created by the Sheikah
>Majora's mask gives Link the Fierce Deity mask
>Fierce Deity mask looks like Link
>BoTW's Link might be an artificial being created by the Sheikah
>>341497856
>Birno Liawilm
what?
>>341500419
>Shiekah had the Ancient Robots mining Timeshift Stones
>Ocarina of Time is special in being able to warp through time
>the Ocarina itself is made of Timeshift Stones
>the Shiekah created the Ocarina of Time
IF THE SHEIKAH ARE SO GREAT WHY ARE THEY DEAD?
>>341499556
Makes sense. But what about the man behind Link?
Does this remind anyone else of the guardians?
>>341500515
The father of Zelda Williams
>>341500781
holy shit
that actually makes sense
So everything blue travel through time.
That's why Link is weaning blue in this one?
>>341500917
THAT WASNT MY IMAGE JAPANESE MOOOT
HERES THE WHATS MEANT TO SHOW
>>341498164
>it shows how the species are different in each timeline
>zora are still zora in child timeline, with the other creatures from TP
>in the adult timeline they evolved into rito in WW
>in the decline timeline the Tri force is a major story element and shows the Goron from OOA/OOS and the gerudo
DEEPEST LORE
>>341500859
that's what they want you to think.
>>341497770
Are you implying that is not just an old man who just wants to guide you in your quest?
Just literally an old man.
>>341501247
>MOOOT
Who?
![Bongobongo[1].png](https://i.imgur.com/ux1zg02.jpg "Bongobongo[1]")
