>Persona 5 won't have dual audio but it might be added as dlc
http://gematsu.com/2016/06/atlus-looking-persona-5-japanese-voice-dlc
Atlus finding new ways to charge more money somehow.
>>341448827
Thank god, I want the whiny dual audio fags to have to pay more for being whiny cunts. Then about they can be happy with a dub or just not be such a noisy minority.
>>341448827
>Atlus finding new ways to charge more money somehow.
Cause they know they WILL profit off it oh so easily.
>>341448827
I would get it. We are playing at Atlus hands though, I hate it but I will put m money where my mouth is. If they release a Jap VA DLC I will get it as soon as possible.
Fuck the english VA the morgana english VA was fucking garbage.
Atlus is always "looking into it"
They're all talk
And the $10 Atlus tax to boot.
>>341448827
Can't they do the Koei Tecmo route and add it as free DLC if you want japanese voices? Fucking hell.
>>341448827
I'd buy it. There is no fucking way in hell I'm playing the game with those shitty English crap voices. Persona 3 had disgusting voices, Persona 4 had disgusting voices, and so will Persona 5. It's a disgrace, especially since the Japanese voice cast is fucking amazing.
It's a Japanese game, taking place in Japan, with Japanese culture and Japanese characters. There is no fucking reason for them to speak english. Just like how there is no fucking reason for Solid Snake to speak fucking Japanese even though the game is made in Japan. He is an American, from America, speaking with Americans and should speak english.
Good. Charge the weeaboo crybabies.
I don't mind paying a bit more to get the original dub
I also don't mind not paying at all
>>341448827
The sweet, sweet Atlus Tax.
Oh no, you'll have to listen to the audio in a language you actually speak.
What a fucking tragedy.
>>341448827
Fuck Atlus JP for having incompetent programmers and Atlus USA for having basically having no programmers.
This is such a fucking easy thing to do. Even Vanillaware and Arc System Works can do it, and they spend chicken scratch to make games.
>>341449025
This really. Let them pay or learn moon.
>>341449857
I don't speak english though
If you want to play a game in a language you don't understand you're just a fucking spastic there's not much else to it.
>>341449894
You have to go back.
>>341448827
Who else has actually charged for the Japanese dub as DLC? Sony with Soul Sacrifice is the only one I can think of off the top of my head.
>>341449857
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BAtC1SzWSXg
>>341449857
Except the US voice actors are going to be shit while the Jap ones are actually well known. This is the equivalent of re-dubbing Uncharted 4 with whatever non-union trash Atlus can still get their hands on. Unless Sega made them stop doing that, but I doubt it.
>>341448827
>We demand you double your efforts translating so we can read subtitles instead of look at the game!
Fuck off you retards, I'm glad it's not in the base game, this way it's just the freaks that want it who have to pay for it
>>341450050
SE did it with Drakengard 3
>>341450168
No retard it would be more like uncharted not being in a language you understand and forcing you to read subs
Dual audio fags are such faggots
>>341449857
I'm not american and american dubs are fucking terrible.
Meanwhile the Jap VAs for this game are great. Thanks USA.
>>341450179
Enjoy your discount dub with ashley burch
>>341450023
Or maybe you don't want your ears to bleed every time the characters speak and would rather switch the voices to gibberish (read: japanese) so that you stop cringing and still understand what they're saying through text.
FUCKING sugita is doing VA for the game. HES THE GOD OF VAs!
FUCK YOU ATLUS
>>341449857
Take the honorfics out of the English dub and then we'll talk.
>>341448827
Or you could just get the undub and stop complaining
>>341450387
Enjoy understanding literally nothing without reading subtitles you fucking idiot
>>341450050
>Sony with Soul Sacrifice
wait what.
>>341450168
>are going to be shit
Literally an opinion
>Jap ones are actually well know
Being well known =/= quality. You have no way of gauging their quality, subjective or otherwise, because YOU DO NOT UNDERSTAND WHAT THEY ARE SAYING.
Fucking subfags, I swear.
>>341450179
>>We demand you double your efforts translating
what the hell are you on? it's just switching voices, all the english slang and shit would still be the same.
Smaller companies like Vanillaware and NISA do it, there's zero excuse for Atlus not to.
>>341450050
SE had Japanese DLC for Lightning Returns. It was free for a the first month before costing money.
>>341450451
fucking this such a godly voice
he was also a bro to the guy who was the victim of the kokoro connect prank
>>341450572
> well known =/= quality
fair enough, but in this case these are actually quality voice actors. Again, this would be like getting Troy back, for example.
>>341450451
Who is he in P5?
>>341450324
>Jap VAs for this game are great
How the fuck do you know? Can you really tell the good gibberish from the bad gibberish? You have no concept of what "good" acting is in a language you don't speak.
>b-but the EMOTION in their voices
Literally kill yourself.
>>341450421
Yes because teenage sounding high pitched Japanese voices isn't the most embarrassing and cringe inducing thing ever huh?
At least English voices go some way towards making the game less embarrassing to play... Oh yeah and the fact that YOU CAN ACTUALLY UNDERSTAND WHAT THE FUCK THEY ARE SAYING YOU STUPID FUCKING WEEB
The fact that people want to play a game set in Japan with English voice actors using honorfics and saying Japanese food and locations astounds me
>>341450023
I always watch movies and play games with the audio on its original language. Dubs are for plebeians.
>>341450519
Enjoy your discount dub with Scruffy the janitor
>>341450572
You don't need to understand to convey emotions and such. Besides, I do have a basic japanese knowledge so I'll understand something.
Meanwhile, save for like 2 or 3, american VAs are all terrible and make my ears bleed.
>>341449857
Yeah because English VA ARE SO GOOD that they didn't shit the bed completely in Persona 3 and 4.
Fuck you faggot.
NERD FIGHTTTTT
>>341450650
Wait so it's even the same translated script? Then what's the fucking point? You faggots really are the worst. I had figured the non dub would have better translation or something but if not you all need to get a grip
>>341449857
>>341450023
Good job, Steve. Keep this samefag shilling up and you might get a $2 bonus in your account.
The dub does not fit the fucking atmosphere of the game. You do not want Call of Duty characters to speak vietnamese, because they are fucking american characters fighting for the U.S. The same reasoning goes for this game. Not to mention that the dub is objectively atrocious compared to the Japanese counterpart, just take a fucking listen without being a biased cunt. They cannot pronounce their own names, the locations, the culturally specific objects correctly. It's fucking cringeworthy how they are speaking honorifics. Fuck the dub and all those who like it.
>>341450739
>Yes because teenage sounding high pitched Japanese voices isn't the most embarrassing and cringe inducing thing ever huh?
Yes because at least I can't understand and thus is less embarassing. Not to mention in this case the japanese voices are far better since they have Sugita.
>>341450732
I'd rather have gibberish that sounds good than having terrible fucking actors that sound like shit. Fuck you faggot.
>>341450916
>Then what's the fucking point?
Gee I dunno, not wanting to listen to the ear-bleedingly awful voices that is the English VA cast?
>>341450804
>enjoy understanding the language you understand
I will. You try and enjoy the game while doing all that heavy reading.
>>341450739
Looks like we got a self hating weeb here. Play a different game you cuck
>>341451062
Nigger even if I play a game in English I read faster than what the person speaks. How slow do you read
>>341451062
>all that heavy reading.
Boohoo, reading is so hard.
>>341450451
Fucking Shuichi Ikeda is in the game. Literally a VA legend.
>>341450739
>At least English voices go some way towards making the game less embarrassing to play.
Other way around, the fact that you can understand makes it more embarassing when they spout it the horribly cringy lines that you find in every teen anime (and thus Persona).
>>341450921
No retard, in Vietnam version of the game they would speak Vietnamese. There is no logic in what you say stop speeding out . You're obviously just a huge WEEB, also if I wasn't phone posting while watching e3 I'd screen cap to show you your 'samefag' paranoia. You've just got several people in this thread telling you that if you don't understand jap and want no dub you are a retard.
>>341451062
>heavy reading
>reading ever being a problem
You must be one dumb fuck
>>341451317
>>341450921
don't worry bud I got you covered
>>341450728
Yusuke
I'd pay 20 Euros for it.
As a European, English dubs on my weeb games are insuferable.
>>341451035
Why don't you turn off the voices then?
>>341451339
>>341451225
>>341451204
>I'll just pretend I missed the obvious point!
Arguing with weebs is hilarious. There is no point in not playing with the dub you're all being autistic and 99% of the world would agree so yeah keep lying to yourself.
What is it really? Do you just want to touch yourselves to the sounds of little Japanese girls and boys? That's why you're all so mad isn't it?
>THIS AMERICAN DUB MAKES THEM SOUND OLDER THAN 12!!!!
I'd rather listen to a language I don't understand than listen to shit like this
https://youtu.be/kNauq6_9iP0
>>341451618
It's better to have some voice acting, in this case the least embarassing option. Also they have Sugita.
>>341451035
Might as well play it on mute then you autistic fuck
>>341451682
What obvious point? The only obvious point here is that you are a fucking idiot.
>>341450572
But he is right. There are good english VA and most of them don't usually work in anime VA translations. And as there are less good actors for this type of games that are less good directors for this.
A good director can completely make terrible VA work but a terrible director with terrible actors can led to fucking garbage dubs.
If Atlus was in charge of UC I doubt the cast of VA would be in them and they would basically hire scrubs for $2.5 and have them shit a script in 10 seconds.
>>341448827
they wont add japanese voices at all
this is just "BUY THE GAME NOW AND MAYBE WE'LL DO IT LATER (LOL NO WE WONT, DUMB FAGGOT)"
>implying that you have to know a language to be able to tell if the voice acting is good or not
You can tell when people are shitty actors, in any language. It's really not hard
>>341449472
Koei Tecmo is good, Atlus is scum.
Why are there people defending the lack of dual audio? Is it not better to have more options? It doesn't hurt you in any way.
>People don't think Japanese voices would sound more natural in a game that takes place in fucking japan
Right, because hearing c-list americans say shit like "YU-KUN SENPAI LET'S GET SOME OKONOMIYAKI AT SUKIBAYASHI JIRO" is so much better. much better.
>>341451682
You're a fucking retard. Lets take uncharted 4 as an example. Its dubbed in many languages but still include the original English dub in all versions as an option.
Fuck off and get off your high horse
>>341449857
Yeah because the VAs Atlus hires aren't total shit right?
>>341451912
I dunno, Atlus loves to squeeze money out of its costumers any way they can, like their unique ''$10 Atlus tax'' or making the only region-locked PS3 game.
No dual audio No buy
>>341451952
It's just trolling obviously
>>341448827
No problem since I'm getting it on the Japanese PSN Store
>>341451952
>>341451959
It's just bored anons playing devil's advocate to shitpost.
So many normalfags weebs in persona threads. The kind of cancer who watch toonami and cosplay at anime convention.
>>341451697
I remember an old youtube video with some "horror" VA work in another anime game. Where it goes with the range of voices "Surprised"/"Anger"/etc etc and the actors failing horrible at every turn.
Thank you Atlus for having to make me pass for the same shit again with your retarded VA that you hire for a blowjob from a tend camp.
>>341451952
Pearl Harbor.
>>341451952
It really doesn't matter much since PS3 and 4 aren't region locked.
>>341451317
>There is no logic in what you say stop speeding out.
No, Captain fucking Price speaking vietnamese sure is logical. Olga Sjauvananov speaking perfectly american is extremely logical. Tsjing Nao speaking Swedish is exactly how it should be.
No. The languages should be based on the game's location itself and where the characters are fucking from. You don't go to Germany and see everyone speak perfect Chinese. Neither should you do in a video game. It breaks the fucking atmosphere when you have a character like Lisa from Persona 2 who speaks excellent english like every other character in Japan, yet the characters around her find her accent funny.
>>341452340
What if you don't speak japanese like most people and just want the non-cringy voice option?
>>341449894
Boy it really hurts any point anyone has to make when a tripfag agrees with you
#FuckAtlus
#NoDAnobuy
>>341448827
At this point I don't care anymore, I just fucking want the JP audio any way I can get it so long as it's not something like a $15 dlc.
>Dual audio with subs.
>Dubfags can enjoy the game with dubbed character.
>Subfags can enjoy the game with original actors and subs.
There is literally no downside to having both. I don't understand this retarded trolling.
>>341452434
Wait for someone to make a guide I guess.
Why americans always ruin everything?
>>341448827
DAMAGE CONTROL to shut up people
It's not happening
EVER
>>341452658
Yeah nah, fuck that.
>>341452647
The only downside is that Atlus USA goes broke
>>341452720
Just gonna have to bite the bullet then.
>>341451924
Show me an example of bad Japanese voice acting.
>>341452786
Hence why I asked why are people defending it.
>>341452370
Interestingly enough Ass Creed 2 is supposed to be played with the English/broken Italian option. Even though there is an Italian audio the game uses a translator software to make everyone Speak English.
>>341450732
https://youtube.com/watch?v=PVAUJgI1TJE
Can you seriously tell me you can't say if this voice acting is good or bad, simply because you don't understand Finnish?
>>341452434
Turn off the VA. If you don't understand japanese and don't like the english dub then VA is pointless.
They won't add it as DLC.
Atlus USA have been scamming the home office for years and years that gamers here don't want moonspeak dubs.
Unless you are a very rich publisher who can afford to do it whenever you want, dual audio is inevitably a transition towards JP-only audio.
When that happens, Atlus USA will be given less budget to spend on dub-related expenditures. They won't be able to hire their nonunion VA buddies, and people in sound and translation will get laid off.
The only way to avoid this is to lie and keep lying.
>>341452754
Oh please, plenty of smaller localization companies regularly pay for jp audio and they don't charge $10 extra for their releases based on nothing like Fatlus does.
>all these gaming site reporting John ''2015 worldwide release'' Hardin word as news worthy
HE'S LYING DAMMIT HE JUST WANT PEOPLE TO SHUT THE FUCK UP
>>341452647
Most DVD companies and the like also do it, shit smaller publishers are also doing it in even more niche JRPGs Atlus USA has NO EXCUSE other than they are cheap fucking bastards.
>>341452754
That would make sense ONLY if there weren't several other companies that already have several games with Dual Audio for those that care, is not like people are asking Atlus to adventure into an uncharted market, they are asking to maintain the standard set by the other companies that localize japanese games.
>>341452754
Yeah because all those smaller companies like NISA totally don't have dual audio options in their games. Poor Atlus! Especially with how retardedly cheap japanese VAs are to the point where even lowbudget indie fangames can hire a bunch of stars like Rina Satou.
>>341452754
Good, fuck them.
>>341452754
You're delusional.
Compile Heart games always have dual audio for fucks sake
I've never believed in those stupid petitions some make but dear god do I want one of those for this.. for the love of god give me japanese VA
>>341453062
Have you seen the cast for P5?
>>341448827
I honestly don't mind that as long as the price is reasonable. It does cost them extra to pay the added royalties, so if they want to charge me a couple of bucks to use the original voices that's cool, I'm happy I at least have the option.
If it's more than like $5 they can get fucked though, I'll just pirate the undub in that case.
>>341452791
Bossun's sister in Sket Dance, she was voiced by an idol slut who had no VA training.
>>341453257
Have you seen the cast for Danganronpa? Stop defending Atlus USA lazy and garbage pratice.
>>341448827
>Persona 5 won't have dual audio
Thank Christ. NeoGAF got blown the fuck out so hard this year.
No female Link.
No dual audio in Persona 5
Persona 5 PS3 100% coming out in English
PS4.5 is real and they need to purchase it again
Cry harder
>>341452754
It's a ATLUS game.
They don't do dual audio because they want to push the English dub.
That's the reason
>>341453257
Have you seen the cast for Zero Time Dilemma? Still got dual audio and worldwide release. Atlus is just garbage.
>>341453429
what does it have to do with neogaf?
>>341452961
>Turn off the VA
But I want voice acting, that's like saying ''turn off the voices in a french TV series because you don't understand what they're saying''.
>then VA is pointless
No, I just don't want the embarassing English option that P5 has.
>>341453603
Don't reply to bait.
>>341453485
Man I can't WAIT to hear Ashley Burch again!
>>341453429
Persona 5 PS3 is also free and has dual audio :^)
Shitlus BTFO'd, shill boy.
I just don't understand atlus us because they don't have any consistency
Dungeon Travelers 2 was JP only
Odin sphere is dual audio
Persona 5 is dub only
>>341453367
>Have you seen the cast for Danganronpa?
Danganronpa didn't get localized until 2014. Also, NISA is a subsidiary of NIS.
I'm sort of confused because I hear a lot of the times ATLUS doesn't provide the Japanese audio because of how expensive the voice actors are because they're top rate or whatever. But then we have shit like Dangan Ronpa which has a cast of almost entirely famous and popular voice actors and a small company like NISA is able to release them with dual audio no problem.
>>341453603
I know the female Link thing was brought up by that girl from NotEnoughShaders who claimed she played the demo and there was a female option, but I have no idea about the rest.
>>341453771
Danganropa isn't a NIS game
>>341451062
>I will. You try and enjoy the game while doing all that heavy reading.
fucking americans
>>341453946
NISA has NIS to back them up
>>341453771
Atlus USA is a subsidiary of Atlus.
>>341448827
How is this fucking news? We have known about this for over a week, since the day of the original announcement.
>>341454060
Is Atlus rich?
>>341454004
And NISA makes more money than NIS does
>>341448827
>weeb tax
About fucking time.
>>341454108
Sammy is, who owns them.
>>341453814
It's bullshit, that's why.
>>341453524
What is infuriating is that Persona 5 is the Behemoth of niche franchise. And Fatlus CAN'T FUCKING INVEST A LITTLE MONEY IN RELEASING WW AND HAVE DUAL FUCKING AUDIO?
God fucking damn it this game is going to sell in the millions easily WW and recover most of the money invest in it and then make a healty profit but this cheap bastards want to invest the less amount possible while not pissing most of the fanbase.
Well fuck you Atlus I will fucking pirate the PS3 JP version and play the undub hack as soon as it is available.
FUCK YOU ATLUS! FUCK YOU!
>>341453741
Depends on the devs, I think. DT2 and Odin Sphere were only published by Atlus.
>>341453814
Then there are also some other games localized by Atlus USA that have dual audio like Odin Sphere.
>>341454108
Easily richer than NIS, which is by all accounts circling the drain right now compared to their own american branch.
>>341454198
All Sega's gonna do is publish their games
>>341453814
It is fucking bullshit. Atlus US is lying because most of their employees and friends depend on the localization dub shit. Atlus JP most likely doesn't know ANYTHING about the US market so they take whatever ATLUS US says at face value and truly believe the bullshit that the US and western markets will never buy a dual audio/JP only game.
The no jp audio to prevent reverse importing argument doesn't even hold any weight in this case given how it's fucking 8 months apart from the JP release.
>>341453814
>because of how expensive the voice actors are because they're top rate or whatever
That's a bullshit excuse. Japanese voice actors are notoriously cheap to hire, hence why they take up so many jobs by seemingly everyone and their mom. MUCH smaller companies than Atlus have hired top notch VAs for their games all the time.
>Persona 5 NA release delayed five months so they can get to work making a shitty dub of it.
>No effort made to do a worldwide release.
Really just the fact that it's coming out five months later has killed my enthusiasm for it. I can't stay off the internet for almost half a year so it'll most definitely be spoiled. I don't want dual audio, just give me the fucking JP audio with subs in September so I don't have to fucking duck /v/.
>>341454451
That's not why the game's coming out in February
REMINDER
FUCK JOHN HARDIN
HE IS A LYING PIECE OF SHIT
>>341454004
And NISA is the only reason NIS still exist, your point being?
>>341450860
Persona 4 had an amazing English dub. What are you talking about?
Rise's English VA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Jap VA
>>341454603
I don't see any lies in that picture. The game has no JP audio.
>>341454669
You cannot say any dub is amazing if it includes Yuri Lowenthall
>>341448827
I will pay 30$ for that.
>>341454603
>we're no slouches when it comes to dubs
That's probably why they hired the other female burch with ADHD, right?
>>341454568
I never said it was, your reading comprehension is weak. What I said is that the excuse of not including jp audio to prevent jp players from reverse importing isn't relevant considering the huge gap between the jp and western releases.
>>341454217
this 2bh
it's such a big release and they could easily make people happy by adding the japanese audio
but they want to jew every little cent
>>341454004
And ATLUS is able to financially back themselves up what's you're point?
>>341454603
>We are no slouches when it comes to dubs
I hope people when ballistic over that comment.
> We have known about this for over a week
Only the fact that it wouldn't have dual audio, not that they might charge for it as dlc.
>>341454856
Then why bring it up? We both know that's not the case.
>>341448827
Persona 5 is shit.
>>341455130
In case anyone tries to use it to defend Fatlus' money grubbing decision.
>>341454301
...Yes? Are you saying that publishing doesn't include funding?
>>341448827
Post yfw Ashley Burch happens.
>>341451682
The whole world isn't the US.
>>341450572
Nigga i know what conviction and good line delivery sound like on my ears. Your dialog doesn't even have to be good or realistic if your VA can make the voice pop out the screen.
I dont hear no john cygan nor sarah Kestelman doing anime dubs.
Persona 3's dub was so hit and miss, certain characters were good, others made me want to rip my ears out.
Jap VA's have careers built on selling shitty dialog, the mediocre ones are hidden by the language barrier but when there's good voice direction and acting talent that shit can smash right through the language barrier.
Also hearing english with honorifics thrown in it makes me feel like I'm stuck inside an anime club. Ill damn near say it's more weeaboo listenibg to that.
>>341448827
people still care about these shitty games?
>>341452791
Jap Vaan in FF12 was so bad he literally became a meme there. He was some kinda model or something and they were just shilling him despite having no VA training, kinda reminds me of how Jessica Nigri became the dub voice of Sonico.
>>341454217
>Fatlus CAN'T FUCKING INVEST A LITTLE MONEY IN RELEASING WW AND HAVE DUAL FUCKING AUDIO?
They lie. In the long run, Atlus USA gets more budget by doing dub-only releases.
If you're not cash-rich, dual-audio is often justified as a transitional measure towards JP-only audio. It makes both weebs and dubfags happy, but it does cost more money than to do one or the other.
Hypothetic budget figures:
Fatlus game with moon audio only: $800,000
Fatlus game with English audio only: $900,000
Fatlus game with dual audio: $1,000,000
That extra $100,000 would go towards paying translators to localize the script, nonunion VA wages, sound engineers to select takes and retime audio, and QA to make sure the audio doesn't fuck up anywhere. These people wouldn't have this work if Atlus USA adopted JP-only audio.
Sketchy shit they've done in the past suggests that they are deceiving their Japanese parent company, like a poll that was promoted on the Atlus forums during late night hours where people could vote between dual audio or "collectors editions" with worthless toys and extras. This poll was closed after just a few hours, presumably because they got the gerryandered results they needed to continue lying to the home office.
If there were a DLC moonspeak pack, then suddenly the lies they've been telling Atlus Co Ltd will no longer hold up. They won't allow this to happen.
>>341455465
t. ATLUS USA employee
>>341454301
What do you think the word "publishing" means? You fucking retarded AtlUS apologist.
>>341455386
Ashly Burch is a #queen, weebshitter. #smexy #goddess
>>341455205
Not always. Nintendo doesn't fund those DQ 3DS games despite publishing them in the west, for example. Sega certainly doesn't fund Atlus games either when Atlus publishes them themselves (in Japan).
Well, it's coming to PC and a simple mod can fix the audio, so who cares?
>>341455728
dumb gerbil poster
>dubfags defending this
I bet you cancerous fucks play Danganronpa with english VAs too right?
>>341455386
Who else are they gonna cast for Futaba?
>>341448827
Sure, FINE, I'll pay anything, just fucking include them or I'm getting the game elsewhere.
>>341448827
I feel like a hypocrite now but I WILL bend over and pay for that.not that it's happening so I'm safe
>>341455506
Remember that time Square made an entire character just to shill some faggot?
>>341455787
>mfw the english dub for DR
>>341455787
They definitely play GTA5 with japanese dub!
>>341455386
Who fucking cares?
>>341455959
The jap dub in Witcher 3 is incredibly well done
>>341455386
If there is bullshit like that with the English VA I am canceling my PS4 preorder and just wait for the undub PS3 version, fuck Atlus US, if I want to give money to support Persona team I will just buy the Japanese version and skip the middle man from this fucking retards.
>P4 was released in 2008
>2008 was EIGHT years ago
>"Guys we took all this additional time for polish, trust us"
>Nearly a decade worth of milking the shit out of P4
>NO WORLDWIDE RELEASE
>EIGHT YEARS
Fuck Atlus.
>>341455549
Is that true? I never knew that poll was so shady.
>>341455674
>Nintendo doesn't fund those DQ 3DS games despite publishing them in the west, for example
Do you think that publishing outside Japan doesn't include funding for the translation, localization, unit distribution and extra features (like, say, dual audio)? This isn't just about funding the game development from the beginning.
>>341455787
Junko's english VA made my wee wee stand up. Please don't ruin the illusion by posting her VA.
>>341456045
Having fun reading and hearing Japanese.
>>341448827
Hope so. I will happily pay silly amounts of money if only it was available. If not I'll import.
>>341456137
Not him but I remember participating in it, pretty much filled with all sorts of questions regarding how much money they could squeeze out of consumers just for jp audio.
NO DUAL AUDIO NO BUY
NO DUAL AUDIO NO BUY
NO DUAL AUDIO NO BUY
>Don't like Jap voices for games because a lot of them sound the same
>Don't like Eng voices for games because 8/10 they're a terrible fit if it's a localized product
Who /turnofvoice/ master race?
>>341456181
>This isn't just about funding the game development from the beginning.
When you talking about funding, it's about game development. Localization and distribution are different costs.
>>341456239
I have no problem, I used a guide to play jap only games in the past. I thought those days were behind me but I guess Fatlus US doesn't want my money.
>>341455959
Lmao that would be fun novelty experience for 10 minutes just for the hilarious image of a chink tryna stay up at real nigga hours.
>>341456237
>Junko english VA
Sound like a tumblr landwhale.
>>341451948
They would be even better if they knew how to PC.
>>341456002
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r8QUIlFAqa4
Anything but Burch :(
>>341456370
But those are the cost that Atlus US has to face and those are the cost people here are discussing. NISA had to face the same cost for their games before and so the rest of the american companies that localize games from Japan.
Atlus US is the only retarded company that hasn't received the memo that the standard in the industry now is to have dual fucking audio.
>>341456370
> it's about game development
No, how the hell does funding not include publishing? Do you think kickstarters are only for hiring devs and not publishing?
How is a publisher not funding the game by hiring a localization team, manufacturing the new copies and distributing them on retail stores?
>>341456459
WUWUWUWUWUWUWUWHAT?!
>>341449283
It's business talk for SHUT THE FUCK UP ALREADY YOU WHINY FAG.
>>341456459
It's actually Erin Fitzgerald, who was Chie in Golden/Arena/Q/Ultimax
>>341456237
>mfw eng VA's can't match the range of japs so they hired 2 actresses for toko and junko
>>341456038
Well nothing can be worse than the English dub Geralt.
>>341453429
Wtf, NeoGAF are dubfags, they shit on dual audio fucking dumbass
>>341448827
Now that's scummy of them.
>>341456652
>How is a publisher not funding the game by hiring a localization team, manufacturing the new copies and distributing them on retail stores?
Because none of that is funding game development. It's funding localization. Two separate things.
>>341456683
Chie have the worst voice next to teddy in the dubs.
This Erin whatever cunt sound like trash and need to stop getting call.
>>341456614
Lmao she's not even trying.
>>341456614
Holy shit which character in P5 is she voicing?
Please not the biker.
>>341456628
>the standard in the industry now is to have dual fucking audio
In your head, sure
>>341456614
>that RANGE
>That quality
>yfw she is Futaba VA
>>341456872
Futaba, although I feel like they could cast her for any of the girls
>>341456683
Also Amanda Celine Miller, who was Kokonoe.
>>341456797
>Because none of that is funding game development.
So? Also going inside the game's code and changing all the text/images/whatever is development too.
How is a game's publishing not related to the game itself? Again, do you think that kickstarters are only for the game development part and totally not for the publishing one?
>>341457028
>How is a game's publishing not related to the game itself?
I didn't say it wasn't. I said publishing doesn't always mean funding game development.
>>341456857
>>341456872
>>341456982
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nICdbrGa00s
>>341456905
Every western game that releases in Europe usually has German VA, Spanish VA, etc etc and people can choose what version to download depending on the setting of their console or Steam configuration.
A lot of new localization of smaller companies than Atlus Us have been including dual audio for a while now.
>>341456396
Rockstar didn't do any dubs beside English for V. Would like to see these dub fags defending English only P5 defend non English GTA
>>341455787
If I wasn't playing with the japanese VA I wouldn't know the faggot was acting like a girl
>>341457149
>I said publishing doesn't always mean funding game development.
You're the only one who decided to include ''game development'' and I pointed out how funding the game DOES include funding its publishing. Not to mention that in the process of publishing outside Japan, you are developing the game for its western version with non-japanese text and whatnot.
>>341448827
Good, if the true weeaboos want their precious fucking Japanese seiyuu so hard and are still too stupid to learn the language, they should be exploited for their money.
All they do is bitch and moan about their subs anyway.
>>341457345
Which faggot? There are a lot.
>>341457291
How is that relevant to the US?
>>341457028
>Thinking they change jack fuck to the code.
All they do is that they get the dialogue tools they have, compress them into a file, replace the file from the original. Testing. Done.
Same thing with the spoken dialogue. It's a reason why you can undub the games just by fucking copy pasting the Japanesesound files directly into the english disc and it'll be perfectly undubbed. They are cheap as fuck.
>>341448827
>Atlus finally starts to realize that they like money
PC ports soon?
>>341448827
Another thread about this?
>>341456852
Persona 4 golden chie yes. Original Chie's english voice was cute and english Naoto was fucking incredible, shame she didn't want to be credited. Wonder why.
Seiyuu is an actual career choice, while actors who tank on stage or screen gotta do voices.
>>341457456
Chihiro.Since he's a crossdresser, he was voiced by a guy in jap, but a girl in US because males can't do a good girl voice
>>341449523
How does your autism deal with this?
>>341457587
Every day until people realize they can just buy the Japanese version
>>341449025
>pay more
Except I'll be paying exactly zero dollars
>>341457230
Thank god I didn't bought Persona Q, I would have smashed my 3DS in a rampage.
Thanks for your service anon, now I have completely convinced myself to avoid the localization at all cost. Cancelling preordering and seeing how can I import a jap version. Thanks for nothing Atlus.
>expecting anything from atlus USA or JP
>>341457557
Whatever, it's still development of new non-jp copies. Not that it matters to the main point here anyways.
>>341448827
>Personiggers will defend this
>>341457230
Literally nothing wrong with Burch as Rei
>>341454759
yuri lowenthal is the best dub vocie available tho
>>341457565
dgital only n real m00tdub like ys pls
>>341450168
Are you faggots just ignoring that dozens of games are dubbed into other languages every year?
https://youtu.be/esm-A6dpXPU?t=97
And yes, that includes Uncharted 4.
https://youtu.be/5ybkODGFiy4?t=11
Fucking fags.
>>341457812
Atlusfags are fucking stupid. Options are apparently bad
>>341451568
You're not getting the game at all though.
>>341457590
Chie's original English VA sounded like a 45 year old woman, which was exactly what she was. Original Naoto had the hottest voice ever, which while sexy as hell was not good for a character trying to pass as a boy.
>>341457605
Seiyuu are only big if they have had music career, voiced something iconic or super long running like Doraemon, or voiced Michael Douglas in all the Japanese versions of films. Otherwise you're all but unknown to the public
>>341449025
You dub shitters seem like the whiny ones, I still can't understand why anyone would be against having the option. You still get the dub, you still get it for the same price, and maybe even you'll end up liking experiencing another language.
To that end I don't mind at all paying for it if it's purely a cost thing since other games have done it. Why do you suck their cooperate dick? In what way could it possibly be a negative for you to have it included even if you never use it?
>>341457842
Can't forgive anyone who voiced in Silent Hill HD. I'm just not a strong enough person to let go.
>>341454603
>We're throwing everything into English dub
>we're no slouches when it comes to dubs
Just a reminder that if VAs are not listed in the credits (or any other official source), it means the cast is non-union. Which means the VAs are working for LESS money than they would make under SAG-AFTRA scale wages.
So not only do Fatlus in fact skimp on spending money for the dub, they hire scumbags who shit on their own union for quick cash.
How can you believe that Fatlus want to make a quality dub any more than you can believe the VAs aren't third-rate hacs?
>>341450860
Except Persona games are known to have great dubs
Stop being a jaded weeb
>>341457934
You still have the option to buy it in Japanese
>>341457451
>Good
You're saying it's better to have less options that piss off your fanbase?
>>341451868
Most of the great, well known voice actors in the industry came from anime dubs you idiot.
>>341458039
>Persona games are known to have great dubs
I'm glad I know Japanese when Murricans have such pathetic standards.
>>341458046
I also have the option of pirating the undub. Which is exactly what I'm going to do
>>341457824
I thought she was ok there too. Maybe they just try harder for more complex games and not a quick spinoff.
>>341458039
Yukiko and both Chies are awful, and Ashly Burch Rise is absolutely horrifying.
>>341457587
>Another thread
Actually only today did we know that Atlus might make dual audio dlc.
>>341457673
>they can just buy the Japanese version
Yeah cause everyone can read Japanese right?
>>341457549
You are saying that it isn't a standard and I am giving you a framework where it is. Shit in Japan most western games include dual audio despite Japan having shit ton of VA that could take care of the dub and in the case of CoD the undub version (in english) always does better than the dub version (by jap VAs).
And for a couple of years smaller niche companies in america have been pivoting towards dual audio releases for years now with Atlus US even releasing dual audio games and even JP only audio releases, but when it comes to the biggest niche Japanese game in a decade they aren't going to release it with dual audio? They are fucking retarded.
>>341451912
What kind of idiot would go ahead and buy the game before there's any confirmation? If it does get added I'll buy the game and DLC, if it doesn't then I won't.
Persona is Atlus's best selling series in NA. I understand having the dub, but I don't understand not going all in with dual audio.
Like Tokyo Mirage Sessions doesn't have it because that is going to tank hard and nobody cares, but this is different
>>341451952
It's one thing to ask for something, it's another to demand it.
I think dual audio is a nice option to have, but far from necessary. It's no different than other games having optional voice packs for other languages. Most of them don't, but some do and it's nice.
>>341458259
They are cheap and take advantage of a fanbase that doesn't know any better.
>>341458246
>Yeah cause everyone can read Japanese right?
No, but there's not much else you can do about it.
>>341451110
Persona is Normie now.
Persona 3 days are over
Get used to it you fucking weeb
>>341458046
Because everyone knows japanese right?
People want dual audio because they can skip the horrible English and still understand what they're saying through text, not to mention it's cheaper than importing.
>>341458201
Only if they're already playing low-grade weebshit like Persona.
>>341458259
Wait, seriously?
I thought that shit has a lot of idol influenced stuff in it. Are they gonna do the songs in English?
>>341457842
>Yuri Lowenthal
>>341458039
The only good voices they had were JB Blanc as Dojima, Laura Bailey as Rise, Both Baker and Mercer were good as Kanji (they sound almost identical), Liam O'Brien as Akihiko, and Dan Woren as Igor. Everyone else wasn't that great.
>>341458039
>honorifics in english
>great dub
>>341450739
>>341458396
>normalfags weebs
Worse than actual pure dudebro normalfags.
>>341458259
Because it's expensive and they don't think it's worth the risk
>>341458407
Even Murrican made games have cringe-worthy voice acting. Every E3 I watch a bit of the burgerland conferences and it doesn't get any better.
It's also on PS3, so you'll get a free undub. And judging by this game's popularity, you won't wait long.
>>341458510
>risk
>>341458376
>No, but there's not much else you can do about it.
Meaning that you can't say ''they can just buy the japanese version'' since it doesn't fix the issue here that people are rightfully complaining about.
>>341450739
>english speaking people saying san,kun and senpai
>IM NOT THE WEEB YOU GUYS ARE!!!!
>>341458452
#FE is jap voice only.
Eh, I am OK with this as long as the price point isn't high, like at most $1-2 bucks. Beats waiting for a undub of the game.
>>341458452
If Nintendo/Atlus found enough VAs that could sing, you know damn well #FE would've been dubbed
>>341457920
He is talking about undubing UC with C tier Voice actors for a US release. Like getting rid of Troy, Nolan, Emily and Laura and the gang and bring in their VAs to make the Voice acting.
Atlus hire shit tier actors and has been doing so for a while now.
>dumb weebs have to buy dual audio
lol
>>341458452
No. The entire game retains its Japanese audio track, but obviously has English text. No dubbed songs, no dubbed anything
>>341458618
Because Ashly Burch can't sing.
>>341458039
>Except Persona games are known to have great dubs
>>341456614
>>341458506
You asked for normalfags when you got hyped for babby's first megaten.
>>341448827
As long as I get it, I'd pay as much as they want.
>>341458397
SFYL then
>>341458039
>english males and females stumbling through japanese terms and honorifics
>great
>>341458618
>>341458628
>>341458671
My bad, I misread. Thought it said English only
English songs would've been fucking hilarious though.
>>341458510
>they don't think it's worth the risk
Yet they're bringing a game that's beyond Japanese here to the states and throwing it on a literally who sinking ship platform with no marketing. Yeah I would say they already took the risk
Personally want a duo audio option, but I am tired of seeing this fucking argument taking 90% of P5 threads. Even when there is news, the threads just become about duo audio. I wouldn't be surprised that its purposely done just to shit up the threads just like the censorship shit.
>>341450739
>f-fucking weebs
>now I'm gonna go and play my totally not embarrassing english dubbed JRPG
playing with dubs is embarrassing as fuck since they are always cringe.
I'm new to persona. Will 5 have english subs? I prefer JP audio, but I don't know moon
>>341458628
>mfw I liked Laura Bailey's version of True Story in P4G
>I will never have a full version
Kill me
>>341458039
Yukiko was garbage, Chie was garbage, Rise in DAN was the biggest Atlus US turd ever.
>>341458510
Bullshit, much smaller companies do it all the time.
>>341458613
>since it doesn't fix the issue here that people are rightfully complaining about.
Learning Japanese does
>>341458548
They found a way to make Laura Bailey sound like the worst shit in their Dudes of War trailer.
>>341458613
Learn Japanese and import
>>341459050
Because they're willing to take that risk. Atlus isn't.
>>341458164
I am talking after they break through. Troy Baker and Bayle have complete schedules and can't appear in anime games anymore that usually pay a lot less and offer less recognition. Which is why Atlus usually hire non union actors.
>>341449857
Can you people come up with anything other than just saying nothing. Why do you care if a company includes a feature that they should, you still get the dub full and intact.
>>341459117
>>341459241
Yeah, simple as that, right? Instead of Atlus simply putting dual audio which smaller companies do all the time, just eat shit and learn japanese! Who cares about pleasing the customer? Are they entitled or something?
>I think all dubs are shit
>I believe Japanese voice acting is objectively superior
>I believe the original is always superior
>I watch a lot of anime, read a lof of manga and play a lot of Japanese video games
>I want to experience the subtleties and nuances of the original language, as well as the creators original vision, as they intended it
>But I refuse to learn Japanese, so just translate it for me, but don't change anything, make it in English but have it be the exact same experience as if it was in Japanese
>>341458867
I honestly don't understand why it turns into an argument. I see no fucking reason anyone could be against it in the first place.
>>341458867
This s why I don't get people who claim they "enjoy the tears of butthurt X", the threads just get shitted up.
>>341458803
Persona's a pretty popular series. Localizing it is a no brainer.
>throwing it on a literally who sinking ship platform with no marketing
what are you even on about
>>341458039
No, Persona dubs are known for having a few good actors for charactersMitsuru, Junpei, Akihiko, Yosuke and Kanjisurrounded by utter trashthe rest of the cast
Special shoutouts to Fuuka and Chie.
Who /undub/ here? Thank god they're bringing over the PS3 version.
>>341450131
Dubs have gotten significantly better since then,anon. You're lying to yourself if you think other wise.
>>341459248
Those smaller companies' games are much more niche than Persona. Atlus has no excuse whatsoever to not put dual audio in their weeb games and then suggest a dlc option.
>>341458506
>normalfag weebs
This are the darkest times.
>>341448827
I don't give a fuck, I'd buy it in a heartbeat. P5's jap dub is GOAT
>>341458942
They all have English subtitles. Not every line is voiced.
>>341457920
Polish Geralt is best Geralt.
There's not going to be Dual-Audio
You can cry all you want
Nobody cares about a loud minority of autistic weebs
Persona is for us Normies
You can play that shitty SMT 4 dlc
JUNPAIKOON
>>341458867
Somehow there's always people defending Atlus over this or straight up saying how it's actually good to have less options, it's mind-boggling.
>>341459358
>I like Mitsuru
https://youtu.be/ua6WmL_0LaI?t=432
remember this? This is literally the worst voice acting I've ever heard in a video game.
>ironic weebs defending Atlus USA dubs
>ironic weebs who hate other weebs while only watching mainstream anime
Love to make these kind of people butthurt by posting loli.
>no worldwide release or dual audio
I'd be fine with one or the other but having a 5 month wait AND dub only? It's terrible.
>>341459339
You can continue to be mad, but unless Atlus says otherwise, you can go ahead and learn Japanese or just pirate an undub.
>>341459448
>what are you even on about
Probably #FE.
>>341459476
>>341459476
And Rise.
>>341459564
So what is the issue people have? That they have to read, or prefer dubs?
>>341459381
I don't think anyone is actively against it.
It's just the fags whining for it attacking the dub and anyone who doesn't care about the Japanese audio, so people like to shit on them because they're fucking idiots.
>>341459358
Because I don't want my ears to bleed each time the characters open their mouths since it's less cringy to hear honorifics coming from a jap than a western VA.
Why is the P5 dub changing Morgana's gender?
>>341459497
Anime dubs will always be garbage.
>>341448827
>sega letting atlus charge for dual VA
Why
Aren't they suppose to wear the pants in this relationship
>>341448827
Based atlus going out of their way to help the community again.
>>341459358
Literally don't give a fuck except that the dub is the reason we get the game half a year later. I can always mute the characters.
>>341459625
Actually according to official polls about 50% of fatlus buyers want dual audio while the other 50% want dub only.
>>341459713
>You can continue to be mad
Well yeah this thread is about people rightfully complaining, but for some reason there's others who are defending Atlus and making excuses, I have no idea why they think that less options are better.
>>341459820
Amerilards are a bunch of furfags.
>>341459696
>by posting loli
Well where is it faggot
>>341459625
>le golden face silly man.
Why couldn't he stay the shit in lunchbag man?
I NEED YOUR HALP I NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALPI NEED YOUR HALP
>>341459880
Where are these polls?
>>341459494
/undub pirate/ reporting in.
>>341459748
They want Japanese voices in the English release, but Atlus said it's not happening.
>>341459248
So those companies are willing to take an investment risk like releasing games with dual audio with less safe properties and meanwhile Atlus US is correctly working on the biggest Niche game release of the decade and they are thinking that releasing Jap VA is a FUCKING RISK?
>>341459880
And they're still going to buy it regardless so it doesn't matter. No dual audio doesn't affect sales much ever.
>>341459972
Terrible taste, cat boys are much better.
>>341459880
>Poll
Doubt the number of people who voted on that was significant
>>341459880
Who the fuck would want dub only? Its not like having the option of dual audio prevent you from playing in english.
>>341459924
You have other options though, but okay
>>341449283
>Atlus is always "looking into it"
>They're all talk
Not really Here's how it went.
>Atlus US: "Could we put the Japanese audio in our localization?
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "Please?"
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "Please?"
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "Please?"
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "Please?"
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "Please?"
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "Please?"
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "Please?"
>Atlus JP: "NO"
>Atlus US: "...as DLC?"
>Atlus JP: "...maybe"
You forget who is in charge here.
>>341460028
Ordering me an E3 Flasher next week myself
>>341460028
>>341459494
Finally have a reason to boot up my CFW ps3 again.
>massively steep, uphill request
lazy non-moon readers btfo
you wouldn't have this problem if you learned moon
>>341459880
Can I have a link to these polls?
>>341460050
Ok, so my original question is - If I buy the JP version (because I'd prefer the JP VA) will there be english text?
Or is that what the dub would have accomplished if it had JP audio?
>>341459832
>thinking Sega is any better with localizations when they can't even bring their games in the first place
http://www.siliconera.com/2016/05/19/sega-currently-no-plans-bring-7th-dragon-iii-code-vfd-europe/
>>341449379
What is this 'Atlus tax' I keep seeing pop up everywhere. For every Atlus game I've ever bought, it's been £40 on release (actually £18 in the case of SMT4) and as far as I know in the US their games are priced at $60. So where is this Atlus tax? Not dismissing you or anything but I have never seen it.
>>341460134
retarded casual weebs who dislike reading that keep spamming arguments such as "you don't even know japanese, why do you want jp audio?"
>>341459494
#undubpirate
>>341460134
>Who the fuck would want dub only?
Fatlus idiots
>>341457996
>I still can't understand why anyone would be against having the option
It is not us being against there being dual audio, it is about them flat out saying no dual audio and accepting it. You whiny little dual audio cunts always like to bitch and moan about not getting the game because you can't yell kawaii at the screen with the characters.
>You still get the dub, you still get it for the same price, and maybe even you'll end up liking experiencing another language.
And you still get the game with a decent dub most of the time so if you don't get dual audio you should be okay regardless but nope, got to whine and beg some faggot for a undubbed iso. I watch muh Japanese animu in their language because that is all that is available most of the time but you don't hear me crying about not getting a dub so I can't watch it.
>To that end I don't mind at all paying for it if it's purely a cost thing since other games have done it.
You shouldn't mind, you wanted it so badly so you should pay extra.
>In what way could it possibly be a negative for you to have it included even if you never use it?
There is no negative for having or not having it for me. It is only a negative for you and your crybaby kin.
>>341460056
Yeah, although I imagine P5's cast is a lot more expensive than other niche games.
>>341449146
Sure, you're showing with your wallet that people do want dual audio enough to make it a worthwhile pursuit for them, however you're showing in such a way that encourages them to continue charging extra for it as DLC. That's kinda the problem with the system these days though. "Voting with our wallets" is a broken system that still puts us at their mercy and places us in a position where we have no power. We refuse to give them money for what they're doing and they get to use it as an excuse of "well, people must not want it so we'll never bother again". We give them money to show we do want it and we continue to support the shitty practices and give them the excuse to keep doing scummy practices.
That being said, I've never had a problem with the English dubs. There's some cringe, yeah, but never bad enough to stop me from playing and the concepts and characters are all too ridiculous to take seriously for me anyway. I do understand the problem with your situation though.
>>341460281
Doubt it's gonna have english text
>>341460187
>You have other options though
Uh no? What are you on? Are you one of those who's defending Atlus for this inexcusable bullshit?
>>341460226
>>341460219
>I bought a Super Slim
Oh well. I'll be playing PS4 anyway. I actually didn't mind the P3/P4 dubs.
>>341460281
>If I buy the Japanese version will there be English in it?
Sorry senpai.
>>341460015
>>341460276
Can't remember, I think I saw it on atlus' twitter. There was a different of 4 to 6 percent between one side or the other but I can't recall which one was in the lead.
>>341459494
>>341460028
How easy is it to get cfw on my ps3? I never really bothered to do it before.
>>341460281
>Ok, so my original question is - If I buy the JP version (because I'd prefer the JP VA) will there be english text?
No
>>341460481
Depends on what firmware you have
>>341460209
>source: my rear love hole
>>341460209
>You forget who is in charge here.
If Atlus Co Ltd were the ones standing in the way, Hardin would already have confirmed it.
Atlus USA have no incentive whatsoever to put in JP audio. They have negative incentive in fact, because English-only protects their jobs/budget.
POLL! Are any of you ignorant 'Murricans that are fine with the original Japanese voice acting being removed also freaked out about censorship? I really enjoy hypocrisy and would love to watch some mental gymnastics.
>>341449857
I'm not American, I don't want my games dubbed with annoying American accents, fuck off.
>>341450451
>>341451249
Also Mamoru Miyano is pretty godly. I would also pay for this JP dub, although I'm not averse to Yuri Lowenthal, Liam O'Brien or JYB so it'll be two playthroughs for me.
>>341460420
I'm saying you can learn Japanese but Atlus isn't gonna do anything about it
>>341460134
>why the fuck would they want dub only?
Because they are well aware that subs are superior to dubs so they prefer when they get forced on the rest of us. It's their insecurities acting up, you see.
>>341460281
>If I buy the JP version (because I'd prefer the JP VA) will there be english text
If that were the case there would be no issue at all
How hard it is to CFW your ps3? I did not have trouble hacking my 3ds so is it harder or easier than that?
>>341460481
If you're on an old firmware, it's a one click install.
If your console was ever on the old firmware, you can use hardware to downgrade.
If your console was never on the old firmware you're fucked.
>>341460281
>If I buy the JP version (because I'd prefer the JP VA) will there be english text?
If you could, do you think there would be as nearly as much people complaining?
>>341448827
I'm not even going to fucking buy it anymore. Fuck companies that do this.
>>341460549
True. Just as your source for they're not trying is your own, my friend.
>>341460481
If you are still on 3.55 firmware or below, it's fairly straightforward software deal.
If you updated past 3.55, it's hardware flushing fuckery that you likely won't be able to do alone.
>>341460281
A lot of Asian release games have been showing up with English text options, with the original dubs.
Maybe that'll be the case.
>>341450572
The good voice actors are not working on anime games that's the problem. It's not a comparison because the two casts are in an inherently different league.
>>341460669
Depends on your firmware. If your PS3 is 3.55 or below it's easy as fuck. If it's anything above that you need to do all sorts of shit
>>341460374
So what you're saying is that people shouldn't complain and instead eat it up like good sheep?
>>341460669
This this
>>341460775
>If you updated past 3.55, it's hardware flushing fuckery that you likely won't be able to do alone.
It's not difficult. You just need to follow instructions. You don't have to solder or anything, the hardware tinkering just amounts to opening the console and placing a clip on one of the chips.
>>341449087
>implying more than a dozen people will buy the DLC
>>341460669
It's harder than the 3ds, but only because the files are a lot bigger. You also have to buy a particular ps3.
what console should i buy for these persona games?
do they pley pirated versions?
>>341460410
>>341460434
>>341460518
>>341460665
>>341460732
>>341460812
That's fine. I haven't played Persona before. I wouldn't start with 5.
In that case, dub with dual audio is the only option? (which I guess isn't happening based on this thread)
Any suggestions for getting into Persona from scratch? As I mentioned, I'd prefer JP audio with subs, so where do I start and what will I need?
>>341460669
You need to buy proprietary hardware and also disassemble your PS3,also you need to hAve a compatible model.
>>341460648
And I'm saying how that's bullshit seeing as how smaller companies include dual audio in their games and don't make me have to learn japanese as well as waste more money importing a japanese copy.
Atlus has no excuse.
>>341450739
>high pitched
You wot m8 you've heard the entire cast none of them are high pitched at all. The English Morgana was the highest pitch I've heard.
>>341460557
Dub only + pro-censorship is the neogaf lifestyle.
>>341460209
More like
>Atlus JP : "Hey Atlus how is that budget going for the release of P5 in the west? I am counting on you to maximize the sales in the west!"
>Atlus US: "Sure no problemo, Atlus-San, is just that I need more money to hire engineers and English VAs (that we pay like slaves because of non union actors) because the american market doesn't like japanese voice actors"
>Atlus Jp: "Really? OK, here is more money, everything so the americans buy our game!"
>Atlus US: "Arigato Atlus-san!"
>>341449025
>oh no people want more options from their video game
>let's fuck the people over who want this because ???
You're a fucking faggot, anon.
>>341460812
when has that ever happened for a Persona game
>>341460861
As long as it isn't getting censored, enjoy your own language. Do you watch Game of Thrones with a Japanese dub? Do you only get Chinese food directly in China?
I might actually not buy this is Burch is one of the main characters.
Like if she's a side character or something fine whatever, but if I have to hear that fucking hack all game I'm gonna blow my head off.
Hopefully they can at least get Liam, Mercer, and Laura. They're alright as far as weeb dubs go.
>>341460995
each game story is independent of the others
>>341460831
>>341460971
>>341460997
Pretty sure I have a compatible model. I had my ps3 since day 1 but this CFW seem pretty annoying to install.
>>341460990
You can play the first four on a Vita or PS TV, or emulate the first four
>>341448827
NO DUAL AUDIO ( ON RELEASE) = NO BUY
>>341461302
If it's a fat PS3 it's definitely compatible, but I think they're more difficult to CFW
>>341460998
SFYL
>People actually not liking the Persona dubs
The dubs are really good in their own campy way, which fits the series perfectly. I couldn't imagine Fukka not having her grating old woman voice, or Chie (post Golden) not sounding like a spaz. They bring more life to the characters, and are performed as well as they're written.
I'd like dual audio just for the option, but ultimately, the dub is just fine, and the only people who REALLY care are weebs.
>>341459448
I'm talking about Tokyo Mirage Sessions m8
>>341461240
The blonde girl is Ashley Burch
>>341460990
Emulate the others on PC with PCSX2 and a PS3/PS4 for Persona 5.
>>341461193
>comparing GoT with anime dubs
You're fucking dumb. Western games will always have great and awesome english VAs.
Anime dubs will always be trash. Fuck the union.
>>341461431
(You)
>>341461193
>enjoy your own language
So you ARE saying that people shouldn't complain and they all should share your opinion regarding what they like?
People want dual audio because the jp option doesn't make your ears bleed like the english option does, also they have Sugita.
>Do you watch Game of Thrones with a Japanese dub?
No? What does that have to do with anything? Game of Thrones isn't japanese.
>>341461447
Source motherfucker.
>>341461050
it wouldn't surprise me if they wasted half of their budget on those retarded Morgana hats
just a reminder
>>341461431
>the only people who REALLY care are weebs.
or not Americans
>>341451317
actual vietnamese who live in vietnam here. No they won't, and we prefer that.
Lots of Korean MMO get translated to vietnamese but they never change the voice. That explain why the country is full of korean-boo
And knowing the state of the voice acting industry of Vietnam, we rather not
>>341461140
It is a language option that you are not a native speaker of. This would only be a problem if they went to Japan and said, well only english audio for you. If you are living anywhere besides Japan, you have absolutely zero, none at all, no reason to need dual audio.
>>341460593
You realize that whether or not the Japanese VA is there or not, that you're still getting a localized script right? So if there was censorship you'd experience it regardless of the voice track you were using.
Unless you understand Japanese, in which case why the fuck would you be playing the English version in the first place?
And I wanna say it again, no-one is defending the lack of Japanese audio, just bickering with the people who are whining for it because all they do attack the dub.
Saying "eh, I'm fine with the dub" does not mean you're defending it being English only, or make you some sort of Atlus apologist.
>>341461447
No, she's the squid kid
>>341461240
>>341461447
I never heard her speak. Is she really a bad voice, or do we just hate her by association because her brother is literally Anthony Burch?
>>341461484
Shut up and listen to Johnny Yong Bosch again.
>>341449894
shut the FUCK up onsokumaru
>>341461592
I didn't think we were talking about Euro release. Atlus does shit differently in Europe, so I don't think any of this applies. You guys might get dual audio over there. Who knows.
>>341461193
This is so ignorant. I speak another language so if I watched GoT I dont want it dubbed in my language. I want to hear the original voices.
>>341461484
You are trash and you are going to have to live with either no dual audio, importing the game with no english subs, or paying to fulfill your little whiny runny ass.
>>341461431
>The dubs are really good in their own campy way
>>341456614
>>341458314
>demand a large company to give you a better product for your money
There is nothing wrong with this.
>>341461761
This anon fucking gets it.
>P4 comes out on the tail end of the PS2's lifespan
>Despite this it launches the series into new heights of popularity
>P5 comes out on the tail end of the PS3's lifespan
Still, the fact that it took like a decade is unforgivable
>>341461670
The latter, and people grew attached to Bailey's Rise too.
>>341461805
T. John Hardin
>>341461670
I don't hate her because I never heard her
>>341461748
>Atlus does shit differently in Europe
The only thing they do differently in Europe is delay shit for months
>>341459880
The ultimate weeb civil war is here! Fuck you dubfags die in a fucking fire!
>>341461670
see >>341456614
She's complete trash. I'm not even really a fan of dubs but I can at least admit laura bailey did a good job.
Burch however is just offensively bad. See: That annoying little girl character in Borderlands.
>>341461871
There isn't, but don't start crying when they don't
>>341461193
Why the FUCK would I watch GoT in Japanese? Subfags prefer watching stuff in the original language.
>>341461805
>he doesn't realize I can just pirate an undub and not give Atlus a cent
>>341448827
At this point I would gladly buy it as DLC
Kanji, Junpei, Rise, and Mitsuru were the only good voices in English
>>341461857
Okay, but that game is campy and cringy enough as it is. I don't know any non weeb who would play a game like that or Project Diva.
Also, I'm pretty sure that's not Laura Bailey.
>>341461748
No they do not, other than being late as shit, the games are exactly the same. This is the case for Atlus and pretty much every weeb game. Source: European.
By the way, he's implying 'murricans are too retarded to read subtitles because they're used to have everything in their own language, something that doesn't happen elsewhere.
>>341461748
>Atlus does shit differently in Europe,
Atlus doesn't do ANYTHING in Europe, it's always other companies who step in and sometimes fuck it up like Ghostlight who somehow added gamebreaking bugs in the european version of Devil Survivor Overclocked that weren't present in the other ones.
> You guys might get dual audio over there
Ahaha no.
>>341461898
well they were milking Persona 4 for like 6 years. so...
>>341461603
>none at all, no reason to need dual audio.
No, but I want it, because the english dub of persona games are on average, totally fucking terrible and I don't want that. I want the Japanese voice acting.
also don't give me this "you can't understand it" shit, yes I can. I actually fucking speak Japanese, but it's the weaker language of the two that I know so I'd much rather do all the reading in the language I know and not have my eardrums assaulted by the useless shits they get to do these fucking english dubs.
>>341461670
She's actually a good VA when the voice director knows how to use her. See: Steins;Gate and Attack on Titan.
>>341461556
>So you ARE saying that people shouldn't complain and they all should share your opinion regarding what they like?
I am saying you live in a western country and they provide the game in the language your country speaks, you shut the fuck up.
>People want dual audio because the jp option doesn't make your ears bleed like the english option does, also they have Sugita.
Import or live in Japan, you aren't entitled to dual audio, be happy you have the game and can understand it.
>No? What does that have to do with anything? Game of Thrones isn't japanese.
You obviously hate your own language and want to be japanese so might as well go the whole mile and hear everything in japanese.
>>341457996
Agree completely. It's always the dub shitters that appear to be the lareger babies when the issue with dual audio gets brought up. They are complaining about other people complaining. I will never understand why there are so many people pissed off that people want the Japanese audio. Like it triggres them all the time, and the MUST comment in every section like:
>I'm fine with English dub anyway
>It's not an issue for me, really
>It's a shame but oh well
>I don't understand why those weeb need it anyway
>VOCAL MINORITY olololol
They always HAVE to comment that they are unaffected, and then proceed to shit on those who are affected. Just shut the fuck up and be happy, your wish for an English dub is already completed, why do you feel the need to shit on those affected?
>>341448827
That's not "looking into" anything, that's "PLEASE BUY OUR GAME AND MAYBE WE'LL DO IT LATER.(LOL YEAH RIGHT)"
Seriously, even Final Fantasy XV has FOUR languages.
>>341461903
She really sounds like shit as Rise. I don't even care about Anthony Burch, his gay shootan garbage or any cuck drama. I just really hate that voice.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ABAtP4O2M0
>tfw no Laura Bailey gf
>>341448827
i played P4 golden on the vita and got hooked on Persona i then played P3P for the original PSP and am in love with it. they should really make a version that isn't Persona Q for the 3DS it would be great
>>341461892
Everyone gets it.
Except that one retard whose afraid of being a weeb so he demands ONLY the english voice acting for his japanese waifu simulators.
>>341462047
People aren't allowed to complain over a company not having an option that makes the game far more enjoyable and that much smaller companies have in their games? Meaning that Atlus has no excuse.
Why are you defending them at all for this inexcusable bullshit? Are you an employee or something?
American 3DPD oldhags will never ever be able to do good loli voices.
Expect the twin loli to sound like a tumblr landwhale trying too hard to sound cute or a 30 years smoking whore.
Dual audio should be a industry standard, Square Enix does it, even low budget companies do it, there is no fucking excuse to not do it other than being a cheap piece of shit that would rather get a bigger cut.
>>341460209
>Codes of Princess on 3DS by Atlus
>English dubs only
>Code of Princess on Steam by Degica
>Jap audios (no English dub though, but who cares)
Explain this.
>>341450753
2 Bucks isnt actually that bad. Not "reasonable" on the whole sense of the word, but passable
I'd buy the game used if this happens tho, fuck AtlUSA
>>341462096
Subfags play Overwatch with Japanese voices because of Jojo meme voices so I don't know about that.
>>341462165
>but that game is campy and cringy enough as it is.
Doesn't make it any less ear-bleedingly bad.
>>341462324
I have heard plenty of good VAs do lousy in dubs because of poor direction.Spike in Cowboy Bebop was the only good dub performance Steve Blum ever did, despite having a good voice.
>>341462450
If you liked P1 you'll probably like P2 IS and EP as well. Also kudos for being one of the few who doesn't baseless hate P1 and 2 but love 3 and 4, or love 1 and 2 and hate 3 and 4.
>>341462510
>Except americans
ftfy senpai
>>341462510
This.
It's literally just one or two dipshits trying to get a reaction.
>Want to play P4 undub
>Can't stand Rie's grating voice
Welp
>Yuri lowenthal
>Johnny yong bosch
>Bryce papenbrook
One of them will in P5.
>>341462443
This is the secondary problem with english dubs which is that for reasons unknown to me, Japanese VAs are like all apparently super good singers as well. English VAs just don't tend to have that skill.
DUAL AUDIO OR WE RIOT
>>341462628
Overwatch English voices are vastly superior to Jap ones though
>>341461761
Too fucking bad, you are a vocal minority who at this point is just really annoying and a cunt.
>>341462096
Subfags love to bitch and moan about getting shit.
>>341462105
Do it faggot, your dime won't make one difference.
>>341462663
Do you actually prefer hearing the same Japanese VAs say "Ah... Wakata" and "SHIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" while running over and over? English VA might be bad, but Japanese VA is cliche as fuck. They do the same shit over and over, and they all over act.
>>341462737
JUST
>>341462538
I already said it's not a problem, genius. Just don't act shocked when they don't do anything about it. How have you lived so long and not know how companies' interests don't always align with costumers'?
>>341462697
Congratulations, you somehow managed to have the worst opinion in this thread.
>>341462324
>dub anime
>steins;gate
>AoT
Perfect example of the cancerous normalfags weebs only watching mainstream dubbed trash right there.
>5 months delay
>dub only
WAKE ME UP
Tbh lads, I just can't wait for it to be released in the west next year so I can finally stop going into these shit flinging threads
Either Atlus stop being wankers and include dual audio or JP DLC, or I end up playing it dubbed.
Wish those fuckers would stop being so indecisive and just set something in stone.
>>341456614
RESPECT
THE
DUB
>>341462737
I like Yuri.
>>341462335
>you shut the fuck up.
Because you say so?
Other, much smaller companies have dual audio in their games. There's literally no excuse that you can defend Atlus with.
>you aren't entitled to dual audio
See above. Also people have a right to complain when Atlus fucks up so badly. Stop shilling so much.
>You obviously hate your own language
Cool projection, dude, I already told you how I wouldn't want to listen to GoT in Japanese. What if I told you that English isn't even my native language?
>>341462708
They made no mention of P1 or P2 though
>>341460995
I played 3 and 4 undub on emulators.
They're not hard to find. Though, sometimes, I can make out when they straight up change the dialog from what little nip I know. Nothing super major though.
>>341462553
>good loli voices
>loli voices
>good
That shit is ear grating regardless of language.
>>341462315
Wouldn't that be super annoying though? I remember when I was in the earlier stages of learning moon, I literally couldn't watch anime in Japanese because I didn't know it well enough to watch without subs comfortably, but watching with subs was annoying because of the disparity the subs and what was being said. I ended up watching a shitload of dubbed animewhich was actually pretty fun
Well maybe it's different for other people, or different for games, but I 'd go mad trying to do that.
>>341462921
Prove that I'm not right.
He was hot garbage in Big O, before you even try to play that.
>>341462868
Why yes, I prefer it because that's how the game was made. Dubs are an alteration by a third party uninvolved in development. It's effectively like playing a modded game, which is not ok on your first playthrough.
>>341462814
That Widowmaker Ara Ara though
Even if there is dual audio, the text will still be in English and it won't be a 100% 1:1 translation because not everything can be translated to English. Unless you speak and read moonrune you will never get the full experience and you'll be playing a localized product regardless
Even the tales of series and Final Fantasy are now giving us dual audio.
Atlus is trash.
If it's day 1 I'll buy it
Well I've done it /v/, I have purchased a used 3.55 PS3. I will be able to enjoy Persona 5(TM) the way it's meant to be played, as well as many other PlayStation(R) games. Thank you, Atlus, for directing me on the right path, and I look forward to Morgana.
>>341463047
Oh shit, you're right. Thought he said he played the original Persona for PSP.
I redact everything, unless I'm not wrong, then I don't.
>>341461193
You're ridiculing the idea of someone watching the US produced GoT dubbed in Japanese while defending playing the Jap produced P5 dubbed in English. Literally the worst cmparison you could've ever made, even a farfetched food analogy would've been better.
>>341462919
>I already said it's not a problem, genius
For you maybe. For others hearing the english dub makes their ears bleed. Ears bleeding is a bad thing.
>Just don't act shocked when they don't do anything about it.
Nobody is, Atlus rarely (if ever) puts dual audio in their games. People are just rightfully complaining about this inexcusable bullshit and how now they might suggest adding a dlc option. How scummy is that?
>>341462721
>not liking teh Rie
Are you gay anon?
>>341462315
You want it and yet you don't need it. The point is if you get it, be happy but if they don't give it to you, just say okay. If they decide you can have it just you need to pay extra for it, suck it up because you asked for it
>also don't give me this "you can't understand it" shit, yes I can. I actually fucking speak Japanese, but it's the weaker language of the two that I know so I'd much rather do all the reading in the language I know and not have my eardrums assaulted by the useless shits they get to do these fucking english dubs.
Tough shit homeboy, either buy english or jp version, you are not entitled to an in between.
>>341462553
I swear I've heard a few English voices that would suitable for a loli from time to time. The problem is these are never EVER spent on an actual loli. If it's a weeb game, you're guaranteed to have a shitty hag dubbing it.
>>341462443
>Laura isn't a bad singer
>They cast a girl with terrible range and no singing chops as her character in DAN
Talk about saving money!
>>341463176
They said they played P3P and would like another Persona game for the 3DS
>>341463153
>>>/MAL/
>>341462868
>Do you actually prefer hearing the same Japanese VAs say "Ah... Wakata" and "SHIIINEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE" while running over and over?
Yes I do, at least I don't understand their gibberish which makes it less embarassing. So much so that it's a deal breaker if the english voices are bad enough.
>>341461193
You have to be underage or you have never left your moms basement.
Anyone have the collab of voice actors and their earlier roles in other series?
>atlus apologists
lmao
>>341463123
I love it but those characters were made with their English voices in mind, it's just not the same character anymore.
>>341463291
Yeah, I notice this now.
>>341463172
Enjoy
>>341463208
>implying children can act
>>341462553
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yd-Yhaa8kTc
>>341462850
>$0.50 has been deposited into your account
>>341463207
>f they decide you can have it just you need to pay extra for it, suck it up because you asked for it
No, fuck them. Tons of companies before then have managed to include dual audio at no extra cost to me at all.
>you are not entitled to an in between.
Actually, yes I fucking am! Everyone else can manage it, so those cunts don't get away with half-assing it either.
>>341463125
Spoken japanese is way easier to make out than written IMO.
Unless they use Furigana. Granted, I just started, but still.
>>341463197
When I said it's not a problem, I was referring to people complaining.
>How scummy is that?
I don't really care
>Russia
>all of people who prefer shit dub don't read books
>all people who don't like subs can read only by syllables
Seems like it's same for US. Rednecks love dub
JUST PLAY THE JAPANESE VERSION!
The English version is in English and the Japanese version is in Japanese. Some of you guys blow your top at easily solvable dilemmas.
>>341463020
>See above. Also people have a right to complain when Atlus fucks up so badly. Stop shilling so much.
How did Atlus fuck up badly by making a dub in the language you speak for you to understand a game? You are fucking retarded and this is why no one gives a fuck whether bitches like you can yell kawaii at the screen.
>>341463172
Where did you purchase it and how much?
>>341463617
But I shouldn't have to do any work to get what I want!
>>341463125
So what? People just want a non-cringy voice option, it doesn't matter if the text doesn't include the ''da-ze'' that a character might say.
>>341463456
This is terrifying
>>341463451
>he didn't watch the FMA dub
>>341463451
Neither can grown ass hags, so I certainly could care less if they're getting children to do the task.
>>341463602
Don't blame us for everything anon. Contrary to popular belief, most of us are actually fine with reading subs.
It's just a couple of Atlus fanboys.
>>341463617
>tfw hoping and praying for the 0.00001% chance that the JP version will have an English subtitle option.
>tfw it's already too late, it is always too late.
I just want to play the game in September, man.
>>341462779
Almost all female Jap VAs have gone through singing training, because they're kind of mini idols. Opening themes, ending themes, character songs, etc are the norm in Japan. Of course not all are very good at it, but most manage to do OK on a simple shitty Jpop tune.
With men it's only the super pretty boy ones with natural singing talent that do singing, such as Mamoru Miyano.
>>341463584
It's not a problem for your customers to complain about something that smaller companies give them all the time?
>I don't really care
Course you don't, you're defending them to no end and attacking the option to have more options and please more people.
>>341463678
eBay, 210 USD + shipping, there were cheaper ones but this one was 500GB, looked clean and comes with controllers and power cable unlike most.
>>341463602
How is the Russian anime scene Ivan? Do you have Russian subs or just watch English sub releases?
>>341463662
Why are you shifting the argument? I don't care that they're dubbing it. I haven't got a single problem with the dub existing.
But I'd like to have the option to switch to the japanese audio that already fucking exists if I want to
>Yukiko's English VA was bad
Why are such shit opinions allowed?
>>341463617
>>341463731
You do realize I'm a paying customer and it's perfectly fine for me to ask for features that can be easily implemented into the game because it's up to me whether they get my money or not, right?
>>341463662
English is not my first language, so they should either make a dub in my language or let me have the original one.
>>341463617
I like the way japanese voices sound but I want to understand the game. What do?No, I won't kill myself
>>341463602
Russia is full of shit dubs. Browsing the web for old softcore films I found Russians dubs that were voice over the original acting, shit was hilarious.
>>341463617
>>341463731
Except, you know, most people can't read japanese, dipshits.
Dual audio is a standard now that smaller companies add all the time. Atlus has no excuse.
>>341452963
It's mostly Euros who don't speak English as their first language that are complaining. I also don't mind if not having moon speak means that Atlus HQ won't go cheap and not even bother with Dubs in the future. If US Actors get work then over time it'll get better which it has compared to the 90's not to mention more of the money I spent on this game stays in the US economy instead of japan
>>341463617
No. There is no reason dual audio cannot be accomplished.
>>341463617
Dual audio is a thing.
>>341462737
I like them all except Papenbrook.
>>341463926
Are you intentionally obtuse? You can complain about what they're doing, that's fine. Don't be a bitch when it doesn't go your way though.
>>341463983
Amanda Winn Lee's first role in forever was Yukiko, and then she wasn't asked to return as Rei for the Rebuild movies. Not sure what she does now
>>341463662
>How did Atlus fuck up badly by making a dub in the language you speak for you to understand a game?
By making the english dub a horrible ear-bleeding abomination. English isn't my native language either.
Holy shit how much are you willing to shill for them?
>>341463942
But you do have the option, buy the jp one and not the eng one.
>>341464000
>easily be implemented
You do realize it costs them more money to get the dual audio for you than just doing what they are doing right now. I refuse to buy an inflated game because some minority is bitching about not yelling kawaii with cute characters on a screen.
>>341464239
>not paying for a product that doesn't meet your standards is being a bitch
>>341464239
>Don't be a bitch when it doesn't go your way though.
Fuck off. Absolutely be a bitch about this when they're just being lazy and not doing something people obviously want and attempting to jew people for extra cash in the process.
>>341464079
>Dual audio is a standard
I love this meme
>>341457673
Would there be an option for english subs with the japanese version because I can't enjoy a game when I have no idea what is being said.
>>341464271
>I refuse to buy an inflated game
>he actually believes the game would increase in price for the consumer if dual audio was implemented
Are you retarded?
>>341464271
>You do realize it costs them more money to get the dual audio for you than just doing what they are doing right now.
Don't give a fuck. Smaller companies manage to pull it off all the time, Atlus has a way larger fucking budget to work with, this excuse does not fly with me.
> I refuse to buy an inflated game because some minority is bitching about not yelling kawaii with cute characters on a screen.
>i refuse to buy a game because it has more options
Stop being a fucking faggot.
>>341464016
Buy the jp version, you have the option to have the original. Them putting eng subs is not the original either so you either get english version or jp verison.
>>341464402
No, go learn Japanese
>People actually consider JOONPAY-KOON garbage to be a good dub
>>341448827
>They locked the comment section
bunch of fucking pussies I tell you
>>341462737
Just one? I'm expecting all three.
>>341464271
I bought Danganronpa at 30 yuropoors and it's got full dual audio, so what you just described is a non issue
>>341464271
>But you do have the option, buy the jp one and not the eng one.
That's not an option dipshit, most people can't read japnese.
>You do realize it costs them more money to get the dual audio for you than just doing what they are doing right now
You do realize much smaller companies add dual audio all the time meaning Atlus has no excuse?
>inflated game
What? You mean price? Do you think the retail price is going to increase?
>>341464549
That VA was replaced later on in future games for the character.
>>341464040
I once downloaded a hentai, except it was dual audio and the default track was a russian man voicing all lines in monotone.
>>341464372
It is, smaller companies' weeb games have it all the time.
>>341464732
And she still uses fucking honorifics
LOL SENPAI NOTICE ME XD.
dubsfags not even once.
>>341464869
All the characters do.
Just put it as buyable DLC Atlus you fucking jews
>>341464539
> you have the option to have the original.
But I can't read japanese so I wouldn' be able to understand the game.
>>341464732
Yes, by motherfucking Wendee "Is in fucking everything" Lee
>>341464964
Which is part of what makes it a shit dub
>>341464857
good for them
>>341464792
fucking cykas.
>>341464726
It is an option and it might just be the only option you whiny cunts get.
>>341464669
Good for you.
>>341464534
You gotta have to take it or pay extra for dual audio, I don't need it so if it is an option I don't have to look at it.
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