Aonuma: "If we made Link a female we thought that would mess with the balance of the Triforce."
BASED
src: http://www.freezepage.com/1465995650RBUVEJNCDR
>>341433318
I feel so smug knowing there's so many articles loathing his explanation.
>>341433746
these Marxists who don't allow any independent creative vision, everything must be assimilated into their politics.
let talk seriously about this game
anybody had a strong phantom pain feeling? or it's just me?
>>341433318
Shit answer. You could gender bend the other two.
Real answer is Nintendo is too afraid to mess with the recipe.
>>341434931
*gender swap
>>341434931
How would being female mess with the recipe outside of you being forced to play as a weaker character?
>>341435058
>females
>weaker sex
>in Hyrule
>>341434931
>dominant musclegirl Ganon
>>341435110
Thats 100% true, this isn't uncharted where women could beat up the pussy MC.
>Mess with the balance of the Triforce
How?
Last I checked, the Triforce was dictated by the blood in your veins, not the thing between your legs.
>devs now have to explain why character x is gender y
>>341435613
When was it dictated by the blood in their veins?
It was dictated by one being a reincarnation of Hylia, one being Link, and the other being a descendant of Demise
>>341435613
>balance
>two dudes and one girl
I don't see how that's balance
Balance would be if one of them had a fat futa fuckpole and a tight pussyBut which one?
>>341435613
>female link gets triforce of strength
>women
>strength
>>341433318
More importantly, why do people feel the need to turn a male character into a female for no reason? I'm convinced this is a loud minority of hentai faggots
>>341435881
None of those 3 imply or dictate a sex
Why are gender politics so heavily engraved into video games of all fucking things
>>341435783
>this is how much SJWs have infected the game industry
>>341436175
They do, Hylia is a girl, Link is a boy, and Demise's only descendant is Ganon.
>>341436181
Its not gender politics
I just want to play as a cute girl
/v/ is apparently too gay for that now
A bunch of fucking retards had inflated expectations for no reason, and now they throw a tantrum. It's fucking pathetic.
We need another world war.
>>341436181
Because /pol/ infected /v/ and they literally can't ignore things or they implode
Based Japs not giving a shit.
>>341436307
Fuck off retard. Plenty of shitty anime games for you to choose from.
>>341433318
So make a hot ass female Ganondorf for a bizarro world spinoff.
>>341435613
It is. However, because of Skyward Sword, it's now canon that every Link is a direct reincarnation of the original Link and so is always born male and every Zelda is a direct reincarnation of Hylia and so is always born female.
>>341436464
Why?
>>341436378
>/pol/ infected /v/
when will this newfag meme end? /v/ has always hated stupid shit in video games and the latest stupid shit involves social justice.
stop being a meatboy queermo
>>341435206
Dude, Impa could bench press Jabu Jabu.
>>341436443
Why would you want to pretend you're a gender you're not?
Why should we force video game characters to be genderswapped just for the heck of it?
>>341434931
>Real answer is Nintendo is too afraid to mess with the recipe.
If that was the case BotW wouldn't exist.
Where are the DUDE WHY NOT HAVE FEMALE MARIO retards?
Oh wait, they barely exist.
Almost like this all revolves around a tickle in your wee-wee, or mentally ill fetishists wanting to self-insert so they go another day without suicide.
Fetishfags ruin everything they touch.
>people getting this anally frustrated because Link isn't gender swapped
>when the whole reason girls even like Zelda games in the first place is they like playing as a androgynous elf boy who may or may not fulfill their yaoi or /ss/ fantasies
And if there was a female option there would be just as many complaints that it taints the spirit of the series
>>341433318
Why did you make me click twice to give Kotaku a pageview?
>>341435783
WHY CAN'T I PLAY AS A MAN IN METROID?
>>341436803
>men play games like metroid and tomb raider for years
>wow she's a bad ass girl!
>never once complain about having a female MC
what is wrong with women
>>341436865
Really. Watch the streams. All the Treehouse sluts are sopping for Link the entire time.
>>341434826
>naked link (snake)
>Wolf link (DD)
>Epona (Dhorse)
>giant open world
all we need now is a female companionmaybe linkle does make her canon debut
>>341436507
>it's now canon that every Link is a direct reincarnation of the original Link
True
>and so is always born male
[citation needed]
>>341436865
This. Plus I can imagine these sjw freaks bitching even more if female link was a thing.
>ugh violence against women
>ugh she's sexualized
>REEE FUCKING SHITLORDS SHE DOESNT LOOK LIKE A REAL WOMAN
>>341436976
Western women in general are just very entitled.
source: jap/korean halfie that had to spend time with them (never again)
>>341436976
It's not women. It's tranny scum and other fetishists.
Someone post the chart.
Females like Link because they can rub their vag thinking about him getting dominated by Ghirahim, or write shitty fanfiction.
>>341437081
Link isn't a title anon.
>>341433318
you just have to make Zelda a prince
>>341435206
Yeah, it isn't like Gerudo capture Link in OoT or anything.
>>341437081
It's literally the spirit of Link being born into a new body, so he is always male because his spirit is male.
>>341437198
Yeah but then they would complain about you doing the bidding of an 'opressive' male. Or something similarly retarded
>/v/ glad they cucked themselves out of femlink
Grats. Stuck it to the SJWs. Won the internet battle.
Was prepared to draw some good new femlink porn while the internet went crazy. Nevermind then.
>>341437229
He rekt their shit after too
STOP MESSING WITH JAPANESE DEVELOPERS
THEY WERE SUPPOSED TO BE SAFE
>>341435110
>>341437229
Gerudo is an annexed state and isn't a part of Hyrule.
>>341437183
Okay...?
>>341437268
Why would a spirit even have a sex?
>can't play as a cute girl
Wow, way to make me not care about the game at all.
>>341437426
Because the spirit is of Link not of Linkle.
>>341437306
This is fucking disgusting, why is nobody calling these shitheads out on sexism? Men aren't objects, fucked up wrongthink like that is NOT ALLOWED in 2016.
>>341437426
>Why would a spirit even have a sex?
I don't know, but that's what it says in the game. We can argue the philosophy all we want, but it won't change what it said in the game.
>>341436926
>Why would you avoid promoting your enemy?
Why do you think?
>>341437340
Draw porn of linkle then faggot. It's not too hard to imagine what a female link would look like. I'm pretty sure the tears of nu males and tumblr cunts is more delicious than rule 34 porn which already exists
>>341433746
It doesn't really make sense, so naturally. How can something with three pieces be gender-balanced either way, unless Zelda has got something to hide under that dress?
Why not just say it doesn't match their creative vision for Link? I think people would be much happier to accept that.
>>341437557
Did it literally say "this is the male spirit of the male hero who is always definitely male"?
>>341434931
Fuck off, links a dude, I don't want a female link especially right now because then they would just be like the rest of this weak ass world bending to this retarded gender equality shit
Link is a male character.
>OMG FUCKING TRIGGERED
Grow up.
>>341437742
No, you pedantic fucking retard, but it said Link's spirit will be directly carried down through time by the gods, and so far we've yet to see that Link will ever be different in the slightest because even each body he's born into is an exact clone of the original.
>>341436307
Atelier games still exist
>>341437981
>No, you pedantic fucking retard, but it said Link's spirit will be directly carried down through time by the gods
Right, which I never denied.
I was just having trouble recalling the part where it said that meant he was always a guy.
>>341435613
Why should a male character become a girl?
Bonus points for not using non-arguments such as [CURRENT YEAR], 'why not?', and equality.
>>341437981
>because even each body he's born into is an exact clone of the original.
Uh... huh.
I think you might want to get contacts or something.
>>341437981
>exact clone of the original
>different hair colors
You can't cite a source and then just make shit up. The line you are talking about doesn't imply cloning or gender in any way.
>>341433318
>if we create a game with princess peach what would mario do?
Say you don't want to do it, don't be a faggot.
>>341433318
You don't even have to make it canon cuckamura, just add it as an option, Link looks gay and feminine as fuck anyway.
Women are weak and could never save the world. Face reality, SJWs.
>>341437073
>book of sheikans is the iDROID
OH MY GAWD
>>341436307
This. It's fucking annoying, there's actually 3 sides but 2 of them are similar at what they want. Which is playable female characters. But one of them is retarded SJWs.Same with /u/.
>but muh established character
Link isn't even that good of a character anyway.
Why does anyone want a female Link? Just because the modern Link looks feminine?
I don't even think women would like it if they made a woman version of Link. He fits an iconic niche, and probably wouldn't feel as good if it was a girl running around with a sword and shield making squeaking girly grunts.
>be aonuma
>work hard on new zelda
>cut down on hand holding game design as much as possible
>implement physics and climb/jump abilities never seen in a zelda game before
>genuine open world like the first NES game
>come to America to show off my work and hope I've made fans happy with this new way to play
>sit down for interview
>"why the fuck isn't link a girl you shitlord? you'd better have a good explanation."
>>341438472
Fuck you, go play with Linkle.
>>341438501
>I don't even think women would like it if they made a woman version of Link
This.
See >>341437306.
The only people who want it are trannies and fetishits.
THIS IS LIKE BEING MAD SAMUS ISN'T A MAN
THIS MAKE NO FUCKING SENSE
Western feminists trying to export their culture wars onto Japan is so fucking stupid. Japan's historical relationship with women is so much more balanced and healthy than whatever was going on in the Christian West, especially in the Imperial court and among the high nobility. Women were seen as physically weaker but more emotionally developed than men. Their sensitivity was actually a quality that was highly valued in Japan's nature-venerating culture, which is why some of Japan's most respectable poets have been women.
>>341438501
Because I like cute adventurer girls, especially when there's lots of different armors for them to wear.
>>341438606
Don't forget all the whiny "progressives".
reminder ganon is a pig and NOT a human
>>341438527
I'd rather go play the mainline Musou with custom characters instead.
>>341438734
Play a different game. Link is a male character.
>People ask for femLink
>They create Linkle which is femLink
>People sperg out, they hate her
>Zelda BotW footage
>Hurr, why is not female
Just make up your mind, fuck.
>>341438514
Stop getting offended for other people. Fans were curious, game journalists followed up on that curiosity, the question has been answered, and the world can move on. Except for you.
>>341433318
Aonuma shouldn't have aknowledged this dumbass "criticism", it doesn't fucking matter
>>341437306
>These comments
They're not inherently bad, i mean, fetishizing isn't that much of a big deal.
But i sure hope they haven't made any comments on oversexualized female characters.
>implying they can see hypocrisy
>>341438606
>fetishits.
lol at that typo.
Also what kind of fucking retard would call wanting to see a chick in a video game to wank to a fetish, might as well call porn a fetish.
>>341438734
Fetish retard, opinions disregarded.
A man, a woman and a... trans? Link is a trans male?
>>341438835
People literally want a r63 Link. They don't want Linkle, they want Link as a female.
>>341438826
Why both asking if you're just going to say "play a different game" no matter the answer?
>>341438884
Cute girls is a fetish now?
>>341438835
Different groups. /v/ has grouped all sorts of people under one "SJW" banner, even people who have conflicting ideas.
>>341438514
zelda 2 and the dream island one had jump mechanics
>>341438835
Yeah, I specifically remember seeing people calling Linkle like a Ms. Pac-Man type character and calling her sexist and exploitive. But now they want Link to be female? That will be closer to Ms. Pac-Man than Linkle was.
You can't fucking please these people.
>>341438938
It represents the trinity in the Bible. You have Adam (Link), Eve (Zelda) and the big fat Jew (Ganondorf)
>>341438843
don't accuse him of not moving on when the question comes up regularly in interviews, you bumbling retard
>>341438878
You want to play the game holding your dick instead of actually caring about the world, characters, lore, game, etc.
If not fetishists, then degenerate hormonal teenage monkeys.
If they make Link female, then they would have to censor her. Why do people want a female Link again?
MARXISTS DONT DESERVE TO LIVE
>>341438514
>be member of the dev team
>work hard on new zelda
>deal with multiple people all conflicted about how to design the games
>code in new physics and jump/climb abliltes seen before but only in the older games
>Stay home whilst a guy goes to america for some PR thing
>>341437340
>making good link porn even harder to find
hey fuck you man
>>341439115
Please, do show me.
>>341439010
They're all different groups until one group is pissed off, then the rest of them join in together. You can't anger one of them without angering all of them, and that's where all of the contradictions in their logic comes from and why people think you can't do anything without triggering someone.
>>341434931
>Nintendo is too afraid to mess with the recipe.
>this game is the definition of messing with the recipe
Here's another reply faggot, screencap them and put them on your refrigerator
>>341439152
Not him, but I take it you have similar disapproval of attractive non-playable female characters?
>>341439073
The idea is that Linkle isn't Link, but Link is.
It's the difference between the main character and the main character's cute little sister who stands on the sidelines.
>>341438965
>they want Link as a female
Linkle is Link as a female. Down to the name.
>>341433318
they should just make a female link and make her gay so it doesn't interfere with the story
So what was the response from sjws with linkle? Or does it not count because it isnt the MC?
>>341439345
No.
If a character is a female I don't give a fuck. I'll happily jerk off to lewd designs.
But taking a male character and making it female for literally no reason other than "muh dik" or "muh equality" is the height of cancer.
since Link is tied to Sheikas, what if he learns to transform into a girl to stay unrecognized in villages or by some enemies?
>>341439170
You're not actually making sense.
>>341439257
Oh shush, Koei Tecmo gave you Postman Link.
Link has been a male character for 30 years and will always be a fucking male character.
Fuck off gamur gurls, SJWs and you autistic pedo weebs from /a/ that want to turn everything into a cute girl.
>>341433318
I can purchase this game knowing it wasn't tainted by SJWs.
Ty Aonuma
>>341438835
Even if Wild Link was female, they'd still sperg out because "hurr durr y she fit? she doesn't represent the female body at all, durr durr"
Courage isn't a trait you would naturally assign to a woman. It is, and has been historically, a male trait.
I refuse to platy Metroid because Samus is a women.
*Turns Triforce upside down*
There, now it's female.
>>341439473
So it's fine to play the game holding your dick instead of caring about the world and that doesn't make you a monkey, just only if it's to an NPC?
>>341438472
Fuck this opinion.
Go start or support a new IP with a female MC. Don't take something away from someone else.
>>341439036
>>341439245
Minish cap had jumping too I think, but no other 3d games have done it.
>>341438843
You haven't seen the absurd things some people have said in reaction. I'm definitely not gonna "move on" without making fun of them for awhile, don't tell me what to do m8
>>341439301
Or they actually still are all different groups and you've just managed to piss off several.
Why do you need them to be one group? This isn't logical.
>>341439620
People literally went into autism overdrive when linkle was made. The same exact thing will 100% happen if a female link was made.
A very loud minority should be ignored. Throw the crying baby in a crib and they will eventually fall asleep.
C'mon, /v/
Post those reaction fb/tumblr/tweets posts.I'll start with something light.
>>341433318
All these people who have this "why not?" approach to all fantasy are so fucking boring.
>>341437340
No you weren't.
>>341439473
I'll agree with this.
>>341439802
Quit gettin' mad at video games.
>>341439792
Take away... what? The lack of a choice for you to not choose?
>>341439790
>equating NPCs to the main character that you see literally 100% of the time and has been a set character for 30 years.
wew
Also depends on the game. Like Senran Kagura, where the main appeal is life and hometown. That's completely different to LoZ.
The original way Akuma Toriyama imagined Zelda was with three characters, one of them being a girl. Since he invented Zelda, it's his call to make. If he wanted it that way, and still wants it that way? It's going to stay that way.
if Donkey Kong became Dankey Kong and wore a corset instead of a tie, we'd have to accept it because he made him.
>>341439992
You're retarded if you think a gender choice won't have any impact on what the game will be like.
>>341433318
>the balance of triforce needs a dick
good to know
>>341439891
What about the "it might be fun" approach?
>>341439851
Why don't people complain about Mario being male?
Oh wait because it's all about sex appeal. They don't think about anything else.
These scum need to fuck off.
>>341439851
>you will never be this desperate to get laid
>>341439473
why? Pokemon did it and nobody cared despite being at the heights of animash popularity
>>341440101
Yeah, Zelda really is a series steeped in sexuality.
>you will never bring balance to the triforce
>Female hero
when will this meme end
>>341439301
Not really. SJWs are SJWs. And SJWs only care about complaining something, so when they get bored and dont have much to complain about, they complain about each other and eat their own. Thats how it works.
https://youtu.be/KXy8S6EkfJ0
>>341440135
Ah yes I forget that having a penis or vagina can change up how fun a game is. Especially on a character that only grunts.
>>341440276
How would Skyward Sword have worked with a Gender choice?
>>341440135
Link is male.
If you're trying to actually tell a story that has years of canon behind it, then you should treat it with some dignity. Don't just rape it because, hey, it could be fun! You need rules if you are actually trying to tell a story. If it's something retarded like Hyrule Warriors, who cares?
>>341440259
They didn't make a male female, they added a female option with Kris in Crystal as a gimmick. Your character isn't some legendary hero that always shows up to stop evil. It's just a kid who happens to stop evil organizations, that get progressively more powerful as the games go on, from stealing pokemon to changing the landscape of the world to tearing the fabric of reality.
>>341440276
There's plenty of flirting going on, especially the 3D console ones.
>b-but being /u/ is fine too!
Again, fetishists who only think with their dick.
>>341440162
>implying Mario isn't sexy
Guess you're not a partner in Paper Mario
>>341440135
Sort of like giving in to terrorists for the lulz. Things escalate.
>>341440162
Because Mario is always the same person.
We also had a good game about Peach saving Mario and Peach was playable in 2& that wiiu game
>>341440185
>smarter
>still have a vagina
>>341440564
>Mario is always the same person.
No.
>>341440596
>all guys i reject are actually secretly evil people
how convenient.
>>341436601
it is based on the recipe of zelda 1 nes
>Boipussi wins
>Both waifufags and white SJWs got blown the FUCK out
>>341433318
Did not know the Japanese were fans off the 2 male trisome.
>>341433318
>mess with the balance of the Triforce."
While that's bullshit, at least he's telling people off.
Should've just said "Your shit's retarded, go make your own game" though. He can't but should've.
I hope that if ever they do use a female Link it is because it is vital to the actual concept behind the games' story and not just a random inclusion to appease the "we need equality so please change all the genders of characters who are male because that's what the story requires" audience - a.k.a. the "we won't buy the game anyway" audience.
And I hope that, if it ever happens, it's one of the handheld Zelda games and it's developed by Team Ninja.
>>341440674
Yes. Monkeyhater smash star sport olyimpian party player Dr Mario
>>341438459
>You find a malfunctioning but friendly Sheikah spider bot (d Walker)
>>341440481
This. If they give them an inch these retards that don't even play games will take a mile.
>ugh why isn't link black?
>why can't link be transgender?
>ugh wow racist and sexist much? Link is a fucking ableist
>so like why isn't link a quadriplegic?
>>341439851
>ubisoft levels
Aren't they the most progressive developer?
They even had a tranny in the last AC
>>341440674
Yes.
>>341440473
/u/? The general level of "flirting" in these games is so low it wouldn't even need to be changed between the two to just come off as close friendliness, outside of very specific non-central characters and scenes.
>>341440402
It wouldn't, and presumably wouldn't be a game with one or would have to change dialogue. Most games are not Skyward Sword.
>>341441079
>It wouldn't, and presumably wouldn't be a game with one or would have to change dialogue
Sounds pretty limiting to be honest.
>>341440983
Ugh, blonde and blue eyed link defeating the evil black arab guy again?
Ugh, I can't even deal.
>>341440957
>>341441068
Play Paper Mario, he has a very different personality.
>>341440426
>>341440481
>Some people might have fun with an opposite gender option
>That's terrorism and also rape!
I thought SJWs were the ones to cry rape on everything?
>>341440473
>Again, fetishists who only think with their dick.
Now you're projecting.
>>341440983
>>ugh why isn't link black?
I'm actually surprised they don't ask Aonuma this. I'd love to see what his response would be.
I don't want Link to be a girl, but people were suggesting this Zelda would be Link/Linkle co-op, and I thought that was a really neat idea.
Link would have the sword and shield, Linkle the bow. Co-op puzzle solving is fun.
Really though tumblrites would still be offended at this, somehow. Even if Linkle had the fucking Triforce of Courage they'd be mad that she wasn't Link.
>>341440983
And you do get to play as a female in Zelda. You possess Medli in WW, Midna does shit when you're in wolf form, I think you do something in Spirit tracks and like 90% of the hero roster in Hyrule Warrior is female.
I don't understand. Why does it specifically have to be Link?
>>341440861
>both weebs and SJWs got BTFO
Aonuma is based as fuck.
>>341433318
Based Japan man. Tell those culture appropriating trannies to fuck off.
>please understand
>iie, fuuku thatto. You WILL undastandu.
>Skyward Sword link is a girl
>"UGH THIS GHIRAHIM GUY IS SO RAPEY. FUCKING TRIGGERED. WHY IS HE OBJECTIFYING ME?"
>secretly schlicks to fanart
This would absolutely happen.
>>341441368
Actually the gender roster in Hyrule Warriors is 50/50 at this time.
>>341441226
I wasn't equating Linkle to terrorism you fucking autists. I thought that only SJWs defeated eric strawman arguments
>>341440958
>'outpost captured'
>>341441368
>Why does it specifically have to be Link?
Because these fucking betas and mentally ill trannies saw fanart of female link and thought: "I want to fuck that", or "I want to be that".
>>341437073
Don't forget waking up after a long sleep and link's identity being questioned
>>341440185
I could tattoo the word "KEK" on my forehead and that guy would STILL be more of a cuckold than me.
>>341435613
>Last I checked, the Triforce was dictated by the blood in your veins, not the thing between your legs.
But blood in your veins dictates what is between your legs.
>>341441320
SJWs are never happy. Thats why you should never pander to them or apologize to them, and never ever take anything they say to serious consideration. If you give them the little finger, they take your whole arm away.
>>341441252
>Aonuma: "Because I fucking said so nigger"
>>341441368
I don't get it either. I don't start fucking screaming at my monitor wishing Lara croft was a man. I imagine these people start hyperventilating when only given the option of male/female in games instead of some slider.
Like ugh it's the current fucking year
>>341440387
Oh, like /v/.
>>341441679
do you even talk to people?
>>341441320
>Even if Linkle had the fucking Triforce of Courage they'd be mad that she wasn't Link.
I'd be not mad, per se, but a little miffed.
Not at her not being Link, at Link's role in the game ACTUALLY being diminished and made redundant. I'm never going to understand why letting an OC take over the heroing job is somehow seen as less threatening to the role than the idea that Link could have been born a girl.
>people are actually crying because a male character is a male character
>>341441785
not with bigoted hateful turds like you
>tfw Zelda herself will never get her own game
Fuck Rule63 Link, when are we getting a Zelda game where the MC is actually the character in the title.
>>341441572
>DD!
>>341441758
Yes, just uncontained and political power. But besides that, just like /v/.
>>341441631
>Recognize the back of that head
>.gif
Fuckin' nah, dude. Nah.
>>341441868
????????
what did they mean with this?
>>341441631
Well, yes, cuckoldry requires you to be in a relationship first, and I doubt that's easy with a tattoo like that.
>>341442020
blocked
This is fantastic, it's a real Kojima-style asspull. I am ashamed of my words and deeds.
>>341441990
>just uncontained and political power
>Implying
>>341441863
this is the SJW infested world we asked for
>>341441252
Zelda was black that one time, when she was Tetra.
>>341442016
I guarantee its not what you think it is.Its ainsley
>>341441945
I cant believe the cdi games are more progressive than modern Nintendo games
>All these post-90's babies who never played the original Zelda games when they came out who all of a suddenly want a female Link
You're the fucking cancer of the videogame industiry. Kill yourself you fucking retards.
>>341441945
Fuck Zelda, when's the Dorf getting his own game?
Anyone who wants a female Link who wouldn't be okay with Samus suddenly being male is an illogical hypocrite.
You're welcome to want it, but understand that if it actually happened, it'd be undermining an established character that's existed in more or less the same form for a very long time.
Pandering to fans is always a recipe for disaster. If you want something in life you have to either luck out and get it handed to you, or else forge it for yourself. Trying to wrangle someones prexisting vision to conform to your trite desires is greedy and insulting.
>>341442441
That'd be pretty awesome. Just being the guy who fucks up the land, but all throughout the game, you know you're going to ultimately fail because the hero would come.
>>341442476
I'd be ok with a male Samus because it would mean Nintendo is actually making a new Metroid game.
>>341442315
>it was ok because it was done in the past
I bet you defend a sexualised samus
>>341442570
they did anon, they did
>>341441945
This.
Either playing as captured Zelda and escaping from the Dorf with a partner game where you play as Link so you get two sides of one story...
... Or in a game where there is no Link or he lost to Ganon or he's gone to Prague for the weekend and shit's going down.
I don't want Super Maria World and I don't particularly want Legend of Zelda: arbitrary gender-change either.
>>341442476
>Anyone who wants a female Link who wouldn't be okay with Samus suddenly being male is an illogical hypocrite.
No. Samus is the same person in every game.
>>341434931
>Men and women are exactly the same, so changing their gender won't impact anything else about their personalities and relationships.
>>341442679
>musclegirl Samus wasn't sexual
F A G
A
G
>>341442476
Samus does not reincarnate.
That said, if by "Samus suddenly being male" you mean "there's now a button on the file create screen that I won't press", then yeah, I would not give a fuck.
>>341442739
>>341442816
>all Metroid games are in the same canon
Kill yourself my man.
>Nintendo is the only developer in this world who doesn't listen to SJW Americans
Thank you based Japanese.
>>341442476
was there ever a case where people got mad because a female person got turned male in media?
>>341439970
Quit gettin mad at someone gettin mad at videogames
>>341442894
Grorious nippon
>>341442016
Nobody actually posts the scary one here.
>>341442893
Which canon has Samus reincarnating?
>>341442894
What about the Polish ones?
>>341442767
FUTA LINK
>>341442739
Link is the same character in every game, along with Zelda and Ganondorf, even if they aren't necessarily the same person.
Rather than make a Zelda game where link is arbituarily changed to be a girl, why not just have one where you play as Zelda? That's a more sensible idea than making such a pointless, left field change.
>>341442893
I get that you might want to disavow Other M but it's still true.
>>341442739
And Link is the reincarnation of the same guy every game.
>>341442991
There is literally no reason to have a canon where Samus is a man.
t. (You)
>>341434931
>No shota Zelda for femLink to save
>>341434657
But anon. That's what capitalists do. They rig politics to fit what they want because "muh selfish ego is most important".
>>341442779
>musclegirl
that is just fanon thinking
>>341433318
I for one love it when games let me control a cute girl, but female Link makes no sense. He's been a male since forever, why do they suddenly feel entitled to make him genderswapped?
Never change Japan, you have the better female MCs anyway.
>>341442894
>it's only good when Nintendo does it
>Wanting to play as a girl
You're all fucking gay. If I had youre addres I would fucking murder you.
>>341443075
So have him reincarnate as a woman some time.
>>341442767
>this is what SJWs actually believe
>>341443329
>doesn't want to play as a girl
What a faggot, holy shit.
>>341437736
Yeah right, they don't give a fuck. Anyone got the tweets of the deliverance come developer that got some hate cause they aren't including niggers even when he said they want it to be historically accurate and that he consulated historians on it.
>>341443023
>why not just have one where you play as Zelda?
It would be fun if you could have a game where you can play as both in different sections.
>>341443329
>not wanting to be the little girl
What's wrong with you?
>>341443329
Hello Omar. Didn't know they had internet access in hell.
Figures they'd let you on /v/ though.
>>341443329
calm down omar
i just want some nintendo's tits
>>341443116
You could be right. There don't seem to be many people who would enjoy Metroid games any more if there was, though I could be wrong.
What does that have to do with the fact that she doesn't reincarnate and so it couldn't be seamlessly integrated with previous games with a simple "this time, you chose to have Samus born a guy"?
>>341441660
They still would have bitched. I'm glad he stuck to his vision.
You guys are arguing the wrong issue, the problem isn't if a female Link would work or not, it's that these fucking SJWs are considering this a legitimate fucking criticism
>>341436570
how do you think girls feel when they play?
>>341443704
you would have bitched
>>341443779
>game was shown off very early in development
>Link's gender was unclear, People expressed wishes
>
>
>haha fuck you
>>341443894
How do I feel when I play Shantae?
>>341444021
fuck off tumblr
>>341443779
Agreed, I don't give a shit if Link is a boy or a girl but the fact that people legitimately complain about this is blowing my mind.
>>341433318
Just turn it sideways.
>>341443531
There are always rabble-rousers, on both sides.
>>341443779
Not having the option isn't a criticism, although I'd probably have enjoyed it, but the bizarre justification for it instead of just saying "doesn't fit the character, sorry" I totally understand people who were hoping for it getting annoyed by.
At least over here, most of the actual outrage and vitriol seems to be in the traditionalist camp.
>>341444038
I know howyour penisfeels
>tfw couldn't care less if the character i'm playing has a dick or pussy
just me?
>>341444254
Me too. As long as they're fuckable I don't care if it got a dick or pussy.
>>341444021
>Link's gender was unclear, People expressed wishes
>>341443894
Horny. >>341437306
>>341444102
as you can see I am clearly 4chan
>>341443779
What's the criticism you're talking about?
He is a Japanese man where most of the women are pilled up mentally retarded multi colored dyed hair, plus size, angry, gender confused, daddy issues, tumblr slamming lazy cunt bags.
So when you live in that world, you do things as it should be. You do things like YOU want it.
You don't like it? Don't buy it.
But you are too busy trying to convince people Mario is a Trans or Link is a Female.
You don't want success, you want THEIR success.
>>341444392
http://kotaku.com/some-people-think-link-might-be-a-girl-in-the-new-zelda-1589374151
>>341444507
The 4chan? Mr. 4chan himself?
What an honour, pls tell me who best girl is
>>341444404
Argument not found.
>>341437306
That is like unbelievably sexist ugh... I cant even!
>Lazy japanese devs refuse to add female Link because it would be more work
>"It's because women lack courage!"
Bravo.
>>341444639
>linking Kotaku
You're really earning these (You)s my friend!
>>341444646
Lucina
I don't care about political views or feminism.
I just wanted to play as qT Linkle and now that they added clothing customization I feel more sad now.
Feelsbadman.
>>341444760
At least they are honest.
>>341444790
Har Har
I posted proof of my statement
>>341444693
>implying that when presented with an argument, you'd listen to it.
>>341444790
Isn't Kotaku a site usually thought of as being one of the most ridiculous and forcefully progressive? Surely a link showing that even a site like that was framing it positively but calmly is exactly the point he's trying to make? Are you just memeing because you saw a word you recognized and want to fit in? Is the answer to all of these questions "yes"?
>>341444950
Lurk more, newfriend. This is your last (You).
>>341444596
Oh sorry, i guess there was no criticism, everyone was happy and we're having this thread for no reason
>>341444858
Either honest or stupid or lying and lazy. Who the fuck applies real life traits to fiction?
>>341445019
That would require you to have one first, and that would require you to listen to mine first, and those are two things that aren't going to happen anyway.
>>341444810
Only the real Mr.4chan would say this.
I'm starstruck, honestly (even though Tiki is the real best girl).
Which video game character should be genderswapped and why is itnone of them?
>>341440387
>Not really. SJWs are SJWs. And SJWs only care about complaining something
so theres 2 people who both say they are for gender equality but belive that means wildly different things and dont agree with one another on a multitude of little issues. You would say that those 2 people should be completely lumped together and no distinction should be made? Seems like this view only serves to make you angrier as it makes it seem like your enemy is even more unreasonable than they really are.
Honestly, SJW's are bad enough on their own, we dont need to help them by misrepresenting viewpoints
>>341433318
As long as there was no homofaggotry I'd be fine with Linkle.
>>341445089
No, I actually don't know what you're talking about and your post comes off as a bit of an unhinged rant. What is supposed to be the legitimate criticism?
>>341444639
>retards got their hopes up for no reason
>threw a tantrum when Nintendo made a male Link like they have for 30 years
What's your point?
>>341445109
>implying I'm the same person
This is /v/ and this thread is pure garbage.
>>341445214
>like they have for 30 years
It's 2016 now though.
How would female Link even make sense? Link is strong, brave, and capable not a woman.
>>341444021
Only in America. In Japan he was the usual male fuckboy they throw around.
Original link for anyone who isn't a sheeple and thinks for themselves on here.
http://kotaku.com/zelda-producer-explains-why-despite-speculation-the-n-1781973528
>Rule63 fetishists upset
>>341433318
Why not make a different character instead of genderswapping?
>>341436307
playing as a female is the more gay option mate
>Wanting to play as a female Link is now some SJW conspiracy
You guys are getting borderline schizophrenic.
>>341445316
>>341444639
>linking to kotaku
Summer, or shills?
>>341445316
ban this man for advertising kotaku
>>341445335
They legit did with Linkle. Though apparently she was a cocktease or something since there's no sign of her in the new one.
>>341445316
Only gay fags allowed in this thread.
>>341445335
>Link is totally unnecessary to the legend, play as this random new chick instead if you like
This is fine, Link's 30-year role in the series is secure.
>Link could have been born a boy or a girl this time
Character fundamentally ruined forever.
It makes total sense
Zelda is Wisdom and Link is Courage
and if Zelda goes fight Ganon, she'll have both Wisdom and Courage
leaving Link with nothing
Wisdom and Courage must be their own separate thing
I like the fact that Aunouma's plan is to just make a game focused on Princess Zelda rather than force a female Link
Link is not a fucking female fucking deal with it
Don't force a series to force a female, just focus on new IP's, you have your fucking horizon game already
>>341445305
thats because japs get autism if the hero isnt some male teen hero
>>341445359
No I'm, we're, not!
We have to defeat the SJW adjenda!
>>341439086
But that isn't the holy trinity at all you giving retard
>>341445558
>will never play a Zelda game in which Link is the courageous young prince of his kingdom, pushing for bold changes to help the poor and disadvantaged
>he gets kidnapped by Ganon
>wise mage-in-training zelda must save him
>>341445664
Point is, he was always a guy and outside the circlejerk on tumblr it was obvious.
>>341445692
We don't have to do anything because Aonuma isn't a faggot that caves into SJW demands
>>341445278
>implying I'm the same person
I don't think I did, actually.
>>341445359
Yeah where did that shit came from? I thought /v/ liked to play as a girl if the choice is given.
The fuck happened?
>>341445152
>so theres 2 people who both say they are for gender equality but belive that means wildly different things
No, SJWs dont actually believe anything they say, they only care about playing the victim and belonging to the cool kids club. Their very own victim mentality makes them antisocial enough that their own groups are constantly fracturing and they're at each others throats for whatever made up microaggressions of the day.
Arguing that they believe in different things or debate about multitudes of issues suggests that they would actually have some sort of a coherent ideology or agenda beyond narcissism. They dont.
>>341445559
Huh? He wants to make a Zelda game with Zelda as the protagonist because all the shitstorm we did?
WE DID ITtumblr.
>>341445859
/v/ will gladly deny themselves options in games if it means sjw tears. Like cutting off the nose to spite the face.
>>341445865
Look, man, I get that that's how we do things on 4chan but you can't just extend that to outsiders.
>>341445859
Some did, some didn't I didn't like the idea because given the other Zelda games, the way characters interacted with Link wouldn't work the same if he was a girl. Zelda was always kinda unique in that the "strong female leads" were the other characters. Link was kind of their messenger bitch. It worked.
A lot of people don't agree with me though, and that is fine.
I don't get why people think Link is even a character, it is just a vessel for the player.
Same as Gordon Freeman or Chell, everything about them could be changed and their games would still be the same, at that point why even care 'who' the character is... just pretend it's who you want it to be and enjoy the game.
>>341445865
Are you a redpiller?
I find it hilarious that of all the places on the internet i browse, /v/ is the one where i hear about all the sjw shit thats supposedly everywhere. There might be a stray comment or 2 on other places, but the absurd sperging out and obsessing is most prominent here.
If i want to learn what sjws are up to i check here rather than reddit or tumblr because it gets more discussion here than either of those places
>>341436507
Oh, that actually makes sense,I never actually finished Skyward Sword so I didn't know.
Other than that, I see no reason femLink wouldn't work.
>>341437198
No, dummy, Hylia is a chick.
>>341444810
I'm the new 4chan, this is what the people want.
>>341445865
i know its easy to see your enemies as unfeeling monsters, but the unfortunate truth is that every idiotic terrible awful person thats ever lived was a person just like you with thoughts and feelings and dreams and they likely thought of themselves as a pretty decent person.
It would be easy if the sjws were just evil, but unfortunately they are just people doing what they think is best for the world. They are wrong of course, but none the less thats a lot harder of an enemy to combat
>>341444810
I want to see her feminine penis
>>341446289
Reddit and other places censor any negative comments about that shit. So there you go.
>>341446289
You don't exactly get an accurate picture from this place though.
>hmm wouldn't it be cool if Link was a girl?
>yeah that would be great! I hope nintendo does it some day
>nintendo now you have to make link a girl
>what are you doing nintendo? link isn't a girl like we imagined you promised us!
Why are people so fucking entitled?
>>341446616
>Home of gamergate, men's rights activists, and Trump supporters
>Censors negative comments about SJWs
>>341446540
I'm not arguing they're evil, I'm arguing they're as retarded as Emoes used to be back in the day, and people with common sense should treat them as retards who do not say anything worthwhile. Engaging in a discussion with them is a waste of time. At best its like talking to a wall, at worst you become retarded yourself.
SJWs have infected the US beyond the point of salvation
Someone please nuke this country, Western civilization was a fucking mistake
>>341444632
>most of the women are pilled up mentally retarded multi colored dyed hair, plus size, angry, gender confused, daddy issues, tumblr slamming lazy cunt bags.
Are you talking about Japan or the world in general because Japan is nothing like that.
>People (SJWs, Feminists, and a few normalfags) thought Link was going to be female
>Just because he looked effeminate
Sexist as fuck. Guys can look stylish too.
>>341446885
he is right you know?
>>341446769
regardless, you are reducing them to 1 or 2 traits and making them out to be less than human, talking about how they dont really are about anything and its just narcissism down to the core. Thats a cartoon character, not a person.
>>341441645
This guy gets it
>>341446885
Kuchera cant play Zelda games though, too violent for him and Master Sword is a political tool, just like assault rifles.
>>341446775
That's for insurance reasons. They drive anyway, and so not allowing them to license really fucks people up when they get into an accident.
>>341446885
I get this is bait but does whoever made that not realize that regardless of what Link "is", he's still a male at the core?
>>341446982
When a person decides to act like a child, you should treat them like spoiled children, this isnt difficult. And majority of SJWs act like children the exact moment they spit out words like "microaggression".
>all you'd to do to make link a girl is gender swap ganon and zelda
if someone pitched that at a nintendo meeting it would fall at the first hurdle, a simple "for what purpose?"
It's more work for no gain.
>>341437426
>Why would a spirit even have a sex?
as above so below
/v/ btfo
>>341447068
The correct response is to send them back
>>341433318
>caring about the gender of a video game character
>a video game character who looks more androgynous than any other mainstream protagonist
autism at its finest
>>341433318
is the game almost finish!!? like is there a completion percentage?!!
has famistuse written anything about this game?!
>>341447068
They should've even be here in the first place, hence "illegal".
>>341446978
Shut up.
>>341434931
Link already panders to straights, fujos, and homos. The only ones being left out are lesbians.
Why bother changing the recipe?
>>341447437
It is complete but they delayed it for the nx release
>>341433318
If Nintendo went with female Link, SJWs win.
If Nintendo went with male Link, fujoshits win.
What did you win exactly?
>>341434657
This has nothing to do with Marxist though
>Aonuma went from hack to based in this E3
>You thought this would ever happen
>>341444632
I think he means the women in Japan AIN'T that.
>>341442894
Yeah, no.
>People don't want female Link
>But everyone on /v/ was OK with this
Also Linkle was praised when she came out just because the SJW hated her.
Now SJW want female link and you fags don't?
What the fuck is up with this board?
>>341447437
Who fucking cares about this shit game, what are you doing here.
>>341445859
"I wouldn't mind playing a female character" isn't the same as wanting to gut every single artistic vision to suit the unified social, cultural, and political perspective that is SJWism.
>>341442179
TIME
TO
OIL
UP
Let's look at this from the perspective of the people playing it.
Straight men enjoy playing as a male Link because it lets them live out their fantasy of killing things with a sword.
Straight women enjoy playing as a male Link because they can enjoy the idea of getting fucked by him.
Gay men enjoy playing as a male Link for the same reason as straight women.
Incorrect women want to play as a female Link for the same reason as gay men and straight women.
lel western SJWs are so used to getting what they want when they kick and scream enough they have no idea how this could happen
There is nothing wrong with having a female link, and their reason sucks.
The real reason is probably that they want to include romance options, or at least light shipping, and Nintendo sees same sex relationships as something inproper and vulgar, and having two options for sex would require them to remake the entire game to avoid that.
>>341447904
NoA is not NoJ
>>341448049
...
...
...
...
like what is wrong with you?
The real answer is that it wouldn't make any sense for Link to be female, because this is the same Link from a previous game that was sleeping for 100 years.
>>341448278
>like
>>>/out/
>>341448278
pardon
>>341446885
This completely disregards the dynamic link has with other characters. If midna was a guy that rode a female wolf and treat her like a slave there'd be controversy out the ass.
All the girls of series help link because of his bravery and good looks. Would a hairy middle aged man appearing out of a fairy fountain have the same affect?
Even older women helping link are smitten by him, it would come off as sleazy the other way around.
You would have to change the dynamic of far more than 3 characters. The entire world would change.
Aonuma is being polite by only naming one reason.
>>341448537
>Would a hairy middle aged man appearing out of a fairy fountain have the same affect?
Worked for Goemon.
>>341437306
I'd be fine with it if these weren't the same people that call you a creep for wanting uncensored games.
>>341448423
hey thats a pretty cool board
Fucking GOOD.
Seriously, I'm so sick and tired of people crying for female Link. Where does that shit even come from, anyway? Link is a boy.
Aonuma reasoning for link being right handed was dumber.
"You hit the sword button with your right hand so link is right handed!"
... but you've always hit the button with your right hand why now?
>>341446885
holy fuck the retardation
>child
>teenager
people age you fucks
>hair colors
dye you mongs
>multiple links
>different forms
magic you fools
>y no womyn????
What twisted fuck would write magic for sex change operations?
Also, what kind of retard gets pissed at a game solely because of the MC's gender/genitalia/sex?
>>341448856
Show me one image of them doing just that.
>>341441945
If she ever gets one they should make a game with kid Link being the companion of an older Zelda. My dick would explode.
Mario is a guy
Samus is a girl
Link is a guy
Zelda is a girl
Captain Falcon is a guy
Peach is a girl
This ain't rocket science. Do we really live in a world where were can just change someones gender like it's nothing
Truly the transgenders and traps are bleeding into our culture and complaining.
>>341448973
You're right with the rest, however:
>multiple links
>different forms
>magic you fools
Magic can also be used as a bullshit reason to transform link into a female.
I didn't care if link could be female before but now I know you can make him run around in his underwear and lament would could have been.
>>341433318
I do like that he acknowledged that he'd rather just make a Princess Zelda game if they were going to respond to the acknowledged fan demand for a playable female character in Zelda, and also that you couldn't just throw Link under the bus in that case.
>>341449202
>Do we really live in a world where were can just change someones gender like it's nothing
I'll answer your question with a question: do we live in a world where people reincarnate?
>>341449196
Like the new god of war but with badass war hardened Zelda showing kid link the ropes
>>341438843
>>341447927
are these new fags or summer fags cant even tell anymore
>>341447670
that sounds so believable its crazy
>>341449274
>>341448973
>>y no womyn????
>What twisted fuck would write magic for sex change operations?
>>341447907
Reverse SJWs.
>>341448956
I think in this game you now use ZR to attack, and ZL to shield.
So in that case it makes sense why they'd make him right-handed. It's not the same as face buttons, "L" and "R" literally signify left and right.
>>341437736
Link is supposed to b e the androgynous middle, also anouma just wants link dick in porn
>>341449350
You know you will never be accepted. Ever.
>Zelda is the goddess Hylia
>Ganon is the demon king Demise
>Link is just Link
Does anyone else find this weird?
>>341448973
>What twisted fuck would write magic for sex change operations?
Taro.
Your argument is retarded, magic can be used before reincarnation.
>>341433318
Lol ummm so yeah you people are pretty problematic honestly. There is literally no reason as to why Link shouldn't be a female. Shitlords the lot of you
>"hurr nintendo hates women"
>"hurr muh feminism"
>"hurr what triforce balance?"
>tmw in Hyrule Historia it was clearly stated that the owner of the Triforce of Wisdom will be a female descendant/reincarnation of Hylia, the owner of the Triforce of power will be a descendant of Demise/Ganon and the owner of the Triforce of Courage will be A BOY NAMED LINK
Fucking retards, the lore is set in stone, shut up about feminism, it won't get you laid.
>>341449525
>>What twisted fuck would write magic for sex change operations?
You're asking THAT on /v/ of all places?
Where we have constant genderbent threads, people suggesting games where the MC gets genderbent and whatnot? And that's just the tip of the iceberg.
You're acting as if /v/ was full of normal people.
>>341449735
I accept your admission that your argument was flawed.
>>341448820
PURASUMAAAAAA
>>341438242
>>341438326
You retards, Link always looks the same, it's only the artstyle that changes.
Link is Link, Zelda is Zelda, Ganon is Ganon.
This isn't gonna change just because a bunch of retards are shouting CURRENT YEAR politics.
>>341449202
>Do we really live in a world where were can just change someones gender like it's nothing
Unfortunately, no. This has nothing to do with video games though.
>>341449739
It's like the good and evil gods, and then the human in between, I think it makes sense.
>>341449565
I guess that makes sense. Sounds like a weird control scheme though.
>>341449524
Keep trying, you don't quite fit in yet.
>"WE WANT GAMES TO BE ART"
>"WE WANT DEVELOPERS TO CHANGE THEIR CREATIVE VISION TO SUIT OUR SENSIBILITIES"
The hypocrisy demonstrated by people who are pissy about Link remaining male is astounding. You can't have both of the options above.
Furthermore, giving players the option to change Link, an icon for over 30 years, severely devalues the uniqueness and integrity of the character itself. Sure, there's nothing special about a silent protagonist but Link has remained that way for 30 years now--and there's no reason for that, nor his gender, to change.
>>341449350
You can't prove that we don't.
>>341449739
No, nothing like an average joe to balance out le mary sue fanfic half angle half demon shit.
>>341449924
>isn't going to change
should not change
ftfy
>>341434657
>I have never read marx in my life but trust me I know what I'm talking about.
>>341449775
>GIMMIE FEMALE LINK! I WANT TO FAP TO FEMALE LINK!
No wonder weebs support feminism. They believe if the gaming industry introduces more female protags they'll have more fap material.
Which in contrary it will have the opposite effect.
>>341449854
Why would I argue with some an opened ended question when I could just point out how you can't leave the house
Link will always be a guy, I win.
You can't leave the house without feeling like shit. I still win.
The noose is waiting.
>>341449739
Ask on Neogaf, they tend to be retarded as well.
>>341434931
Correct answer
Link is an established character and if Gender doesn't matter then why change it potentially harming sales?
>>341434931
You know the shit storm it would cause if Ganon was a girl? One female Gerudo born every hundred years, turned into a sow to be raped to death so she can sire enough children to last another hundred years.
>>341450295
What are you, gay?
>>341450134
>"WE WANT DEVELOPERS TO CHANGE THEIR CREATIVE VISION TO SUIT OUR SENSIBILITIES"
I keep seeing this. Who is actually saying they have to change anything? They're stating preferences. They're stating disappointment. But I don't think many people are making demands.
>>341433318
link's stupid vagina would knock the triforce out of whack
it's probably start menstruating or something
Can we make Otherkin a big thing?
Like we'll do it as a prank at first but then there will be actual autists joining in before long.
Then they can bitch and moan endlessly about no Otherkin Link and compete with the people wanting tranny Link, and everyone on the outside can collectively ignore them.
>>341450595
I wouldn't call plastering articles about how problematic and hateful a company is as a simple "disappointment"
While my dick would love a femLink I am perfectly fine with them not changing it. It is their descission and they should never let other people dictate their games.
>"Make Link female!"
>mfw feminazis need video game characters to be female because women in real life can't achieve anything big
>>341449739
It's supposed to show that while ganon and Zelda are born into their roles with innate power, Link is a state of being achieved by heroic deeds, not through any specific lineage.
Sure some of the games frame you as the chosen one but that still involves starting from nothing.
Link's such a non-character I wouldn't really mind if he was a girl. I mean the only thing interesting about him is that he gets reborn over and over again, no? So why not have him be reborn as a girl
>>341450769
we had an otherkin&crossdressing link already
wasnt aonuma's wife the one who wanted a twink link?
>>341450595
>Who is actually saying they have to change anything?
are you for real?
>>341447703
At an internet pissing contest
>>341433318
the balance of the triforce got messed up when Iwata died
>>341450875
Well I hope you like President Clinton
>>341433318Why do people want Link to be female?
>>341450875
Wouldn't that be the thing if they made Link a girl though? It's saying Women can't stand on their own and need to rely on an established series to be noticed. Hardly an achievement.
>>341450797
>how problematic and hateful a company is
Where?
See, this is the thing, /v/. Everything you say is steeped in hyperbole but I get the sense you actually believe it. Then you feel the need to exaggerate it further and then someone else takes that at face value. And now we're in a situation where the things you're saying don't correspond to reality any more.
People are having opinions on the internet. Same as you.
>>341451050
people are retarded, you should know by now
>>341435613
[Citation needed]
Had they chosen to make a female link you all faggots would be defending it as well.
Every time Nintendo takes a step you all follow like the sheeple you are.
I don't care for either side, but you fags taking the contradiction for the sake of spitting SJW is just pathetic.
>>341451050
MUH VAGINA
>>341450438
>if Gender doesn't matter then why change it potentially harming sales?
I see this a lot, and it's a conflation of two different contexts. Gender can not be important to the character / story but still matter to some players. Just look at Pokemon - absolutely no gameplay or story consequences, trainer choice is a subject of discussion every single new gen.Yes, I know that Pokemon trainers are different characters and always change between games. No, that has nothing to do with the point.
>>341451050
Cute girls make everything better, are you stupid?
>>341434931
They have Linkle so they can Fuck off already
>>341451050
Link doesnt need to be female, but a female option would be nice especially since this new game is all about freedom.
Also who doesnt want to play as cute girls besides Fujoshits?
Nintendo should make Zelda a man and Ganondwarf a woman
Zelda is never captured and Malon being the interest
>Tfw we've gotten to a point where it's commendable and rare to NOT design your characters in a way that panders to SJWs and political correctness
>>341451157
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/alexis-kleinman/nintendo-doesnt-understand-women_b_6893130.html
>>341451508
>Also who doesnt want to play as cute girls besides Fujoshits?
Well done, you just broke the code.
>>341451365
>>341451508
But why are they complaining over Link specifically? Why not just video games in general? It seems like the focus is on this game more than anything else. I don't hear people wanting Mario or something to be a girl.
>>341439423
Didn't count because not the MC.
>>341451617
Old article but a woman who was fired from her job by trying to fuck her way to the top.
NEXT.
>>341450218
leftypol?
>>341451617
Well, congratulations, "problematic" does actually appear once in that article, although it's not applied to the company, of course. And "hateful" predictably doesn't show up at all.
>>341434931
Isn't Ganondorf's story that he is the only male born to an all female tribe which makes him some sort of King?
>>341436307
>wanting to play as a girl
>not wanting to play as a twink
what are you double faggot
>>341446885
these guys might just manage to ruin beards for a generation
shit's itchy as fuck anyways
>>341451842
Because women don't play video games, but they like the marketable and "hip" idea of liking The Legend of Zelda.
Next time you see a chick with a Triforce tattoo, ask her if she played a Zelda game, OF COURSE SHE DID........ for about an hour, then she got bored and decided to watch Bing Bang Theory instead.
OH BUT SHE HAS THE GAME, NERD CRED RIGHT?
>>341435969
Plot twist:Ganondorf isn't actually male. Ganondorf is just a futa woman with magical enhancements to appear male (courtesy of the Twinrova sisters, who were in on it from the start) and is therefore not the true King of the Gerudo.
>>341433318
>freezepage
what is this
>>341452003
Exactly.
But who cares about story and 20 years (OoT) of fiction right? We need trans-Link and Female Ganondorf teaming up to kill all the white-cis Hylians who we learn originally came from the Dark World.
>>341451842
mario is an icon. Link for the most part is just a vessel(though some games his gender is actually important). Combine that with the fact people want zelda to turn into dark souls. There's some sense in wanting to just have character customization. That or they're just SJWs spouting shit. The same kind of people who would want a female mario. That's just my thoughts though.
>>341435783
>Overwatch panel
>IS ONE OF THEM GAY?
I know this isn't a OW thread but it's pertinent. Fucking gender and sexuality have no place in a warzone or quest to save the world. No one fucking cares. Save that shit for Bioware.
>>341434657
do you even know what marxism is?
>>341433318
>male ; courage
>female ; wisdom
>monster ; power
he's right
>>341449350
*reincarnation research intensifies*
>>341451298
It can easily matter to an atmosphere and tone
imagine making Wolverine a woman. She could act the exact same as Wolverine but there would be an air of ignorance surrounding it as the actions don't fit.
Hell you'd probably see the comic sales plummet over 50%
>>341452591
x-23
>>341444639
WTF anon.
Don't link to Gawker assets.
>>341452241
Ganondorf can't reincarnate, I get people not understanding that Link can't reincarnate as a girl, but Ganon is just the same guy clinging to life through pure willpower.
>>341433318
Link is a boy.
There can be female heroes but they deserve to be original. Ashei was cool.
>>341452591
Are you not reading All-New Wolverine? She's female.
>>341452636
Yeah and Wolverine comic's sales are doing so poorly it's in the process of being canceled because they made X-23 Wolverine
>>341452723
They don't want original.
They don't want popularity that is earned by their own actions.
They want the staring role without any effort.
The want their Joan of Arc with the 30 year history of another's work.
They want the easy route
They want to be women.
SJWs thought all the censorship in recent Nintendo games would pander to them, when in reality Nintendo is as "family friendly" as it has always been. Cant have anything controversial on their games or little Timmy's parents wont buy their next gimmicky console next christmas.
>>341447558
>The only ones being left out are lesbians.
Based.
>>341452802
That's the entire problem with pandering to the loud community
Cats meow loud 10 cat's can sound like a hundred but in the end if you deprive 50 to feed those 10 you end up with a net loss and a needy 10
>>341433318
Absolutely based. I love this man. Long may he reign.
>>341453002
No. You are the one who thought these things.
>>341433318
Being male is one of Link's few consistent character traits. Making him a girl will further make him a non-descript "my unit" which always makes sequels and cameos difficult/impossible. It's a cop out of story telling and it creates a lot of problems when nobody remembers if the hero of legend was a boy or girl.
Make a new hero that's a girl.
Let the butt hurt flow. I feed off the anger.
These companies will always, always give stupid answers for these questions that could be easily politicized. They would never give in to the fans for this.
I just can't believe people have fueled a controversy out of this.
>>341441079
>Most games are not Skyward Sword.
But all the games are set in the same universe you faggot.
It is not as simple as changing the sex of Link. Once that is done the entire culture of the world has to be changed to justify why a chick is the legendary hero and no one bats a fucking eye.
The Gerudo are considered notable for being all female. Impa was notable for being a female when every other guard was male.
The world of Hylia is one of traditional gender roles. That allows the female characters that defy the norms to stand out.
Suddenly having the Hero of Time be either male or female in the same game requires a complete fucking change to the entire culture of Hylia that has been created to explain why no one gives a fuck.
In short, you don't know shit about the actual world building process. Go get pegged by your dyke-in-denial girlfriend.
>>341437306
>Anyway who wants to draw naked feral link hunched over in the forest shoving leaves into his mouth and hissing like a cat for me
da fug?
>>341453818
If anything sounds like a world with lots of interesting storytelling opportunities if you have the hero suddenly be a woman. Instead of no one batting an eye, make it a plot point.
>>341437742
>Did it literally say "this is the male spirit of the male hero who is always definitely male"?
Does the game have to spell it out everything for you retards? Why would the game EVER explicitly state that something as dumb as that?
>>341441805
Because Link is an established character.
Think of it this way, it would be like you having your reincarnating special snowflake blue haired negro tranny turned into a straight white Christian male in the third part of a trilogy, because "Why not?".
Maybe that will help you wrap your mind around it.
>>341446381
>other than the only reason you need, not going against your canon, i dont see a reason
fuck off sjw
>>341452229
To prevent traffic/ad-revenue going to Kotaku.
>>341453818
This.
Go back to your Undertales or something. Oh wait you are bored with it because the creator told you also to fuck off.
>>341437351
>with a bow
>from a distance
>puts his hands up if caught
>>341453818
Hello, overanalysis taken as tenets of world design.
>>341436181
Because it's what the current media hounds keep pushing onto both the creators and the consumers. OP's article isn't the only one to be talking about Link not being a girl, there's at least 7 other websites making the same article and the same criticisms about it right now. That's just for this one series too, there's probably a hundred other articles about why character isn't so and so gender for other games floating around the internet.
>>341439663
>autistic pedo weebs from /a/
It's actually the degenerate /u/ crossies, even we hate them shipping girls who interact in the slightest, or get triggered and shitposting when a male exists.
They're literally everywhere because of the t/u/mblr invasion, go check an Overwatch thread and see 100 lesbian fanart images every time. They get so butthurt when you post anything hetero.
They'll even agree with feminist/SJW agenda if it means getting more cuckold lesbian porn.
>>341437306
UGH SO DISGUSTING
ALL WOMEN ARE PIGS
>>341433318
I just think if they make him female, they'll continue whining to change everything else.
Why are adults so fucking whiny? None of these people gave two shits when they were kids playing Link's Awakening.
>>341437306
>that last one
real girls are scary, this is why I stick the more pure 2D girls
>>341436223
>I-if you ignore t-them, they will go away!
Enjoy the ride, /v/. You asked for this. You don't fucking "tolerate" or "ignore" bullies: you snap and beat the crap out of them trying to be as barbaric as possible to make sure they don't fuck with you or your shit ever again.
>>341456040
You never tolerated or ignored anyone for even a second, you tit. But you did already snap and overreact, and it only convinced the world at large that misogynistic gamers are a real problem.
>>341456276
If the world is in a state where the "actions" /v/ "took" count as misogynistic/harmful/etc, the world already had a problem.
>>341456567
It's you. You're the problem.
Behave like civilised human beings and we can all get along.
>>341441945
Playing a game from Zelda's perspective as something is going down would be pretty cool. It' could even to be totally different than the Zelda games.
<spoiler>Think of all the men who'd complain that Zelda isn't a boy doing this stuff!</spoiler>
I'd only be okay with it if they also gender-swapped Zelda, which would cause an SJW shitstorm.
Plus they go out of their way to make no other relevant females in the game, so yurifags have nobody to ship Linkle with.
>>341456276
It has been growing like a snowball ever since it got trendy. We didn't do shit. I didn't do shit.
Wanna beat them? Make a better trend for normies or make then seem outdated and retarded among their ranks.
>>341456663
You don't get to decide what behaving like "civilised human beings" is.
>>341448049
So only dykes get the finger? Everything is right in the world.
>>341456949
That's the dumbest plan I've ever heard. It's based on so many misconceptions I don't know where to begin.
>>341457074
Civilised human beings do. So /v/ doesn't.
This seems like just a general reminder why companies shouldn't listen to their audiences unless they have to. At least there are still plenty people who are actually criticizing the game's features, as opposed to the character's consistent gender.
/v/ in a nutshell
>>341457276
>civilised human beings decide what civilised human beings are
Circular reasoning at it's finest.
>>341448125
>Nintendo sees same sex relationships as something inproper and vulgar
Truly the saviors we need.
>>341450295
>No wonder weebs support feminism.
Not all do, mainly the t/u/mblr ones which are more prominent these days.
>>341457441
Too bad it's actually a thing.
>>341457441
>>341457276
Please time your posts a little less obviously next time.
>>341457441
When you have an image like this ready to go on your HD, it's pretty clear who is posting it
Go away you ham beast of a woman
>>341438501
I think faggots who fap to Link are insecure of themselves, so they want a female Link to be like "SEE? LINK'S A CHICK! I AIN'T GAY BECAUSE I FAP TO HER HURRR DURR!"
>>341433318
Shit excuse, but it's not like they even need an excuse for link to be a boy other then because it's their own fucking vision so they'll do whatever they want
>>341451050
/u/fags are so beta that they feel oppressed by other fictional males, making impossible for them to relate to any male character. Even a twink like Link is too alpha for them.
They'd rather take a backseat and imagine the Zelda world with no males, with Linkle x Zelda dyke romance and no icky males to bully them.
So they take it upon themselves to ally with Feminist/SJW to make their agenda come true. Don't pin it on the weebs either, it's t/u/mblr falseflagging. Any true weeb is fine with traps.
>>341433318
Because if they change the gender then SJWs will start asking for lesbo romance options, free from the patriarchy of males.
It's a slippery slope and Nintendo wants to remain family friendly.
The only way to do it would be to change Zelda to a male, which would rename the ENTIRE FUCKING FRANCHISE.
It will never happen.
>>341456663
>everything I don't like is racistsexistphobic and if you disagree you are Hitler
>I will scream, dox you, shame you, get you fired, censor you in the name of free speech and make sure you never work again or get positive reviews because I am right and you are wrong and you should cater my needs and not anyone else-s because thay would be wrong.
>did I mention that if you complain you are literally Hitler?
But anon, those tactics are barbaric and often used by extremist groups, that is uncivilized and often used by actual oppressive forces. Hitler would'nt be against SJW. He'd be right behind their neopuritan zealots, where it has always been.
And no, I don't want to go to /pol/. If I wanted a place where authoritarian fucks roam free I'd go to tumblr. It's bigger and the hugbox is even more controlled.