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How viable is Winston? He has low damage and short duration bubble
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How viable is Winston? He has low damage and short duration bubble with high cd.
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He's very good for pushing. Can protect pushes with bubble and take out snipers by jumping into their perches. He's a better tank than D.Va because his bubble is a lot better cover.
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>>341366892
>He is better than D.VA meme

Fuck off /v/ you are always posting this shit
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>>341366462
He's a real pain in the dick in the hands of those who know how to use him. Very hard to kill.
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do people still play overwatch
wtf
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He's fun. I like fucking with snipers, plus he's a pretty good distraction.
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>>341366462
100% of the difficulty of playing him is memorizing the location of health packs. once you have those memorized basically anybody can play him at a high level
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>>341366892

Dva isn't a tank.
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>>341366462
Counters Tracer, Genji, Widowmaker and probably Mcree after today's patch. Sucks against Lucio and armored targets due to slow damage over time.
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>>341366462
he's a better "tank" than zarya but a far far far worse damage dealer. both being worse than rheinhardt and better than d.va or roadhog

totally viable depending on team and enemy team comp and player skill
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>>341367305
She is. It says so in the game
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>>341367305
>"she's not even supposed to be a tank!"
D.Vankers on full desperate damage control
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>>341367305
But D.va is literally a Tank according to the game?
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>>341367359
>roadhog
>not s tier
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>>341366462
He's good at jumping behind the enemies and attacking the squishies
Hopefully your team is smart enough to take advantage of the confusion you make.

Also the bubble is long cooldown but works both inwards and outwards. You can bubble a Dva mech nuke inside of the bubble and running outside the bubble will protect you. Same with reaper ult.
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He's basically an assassin

Absolutely murders most 200hp heroes but tickles anything with armour
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I've actually gotten POTG with him a few times, but he's either feast or famine. If you have a good healer who's willing to stay near you, and a team that sticks together and either finishes off enemies you harass/weaken or softens up reds for you to zap to death, he's amazing. He's so much more mobile than Reinhardt, and his gun is great on soft, fast targets like Tracer and Genji.

But those are a lot of ifs, and if you're like me and just playing pugs, you're lucky to even find people who are willing to stand behind Reinhardt's sheild.
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>>341367315
Is armor a different amount of damage taken or what?
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Winston is a tank meant for infiltration and confusion. He's meant to scramble the enemy team and allow your allies to shoot them up while they're running around like chickens with their heads cut off trying to kill you.
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>>341367757
50% damage taken
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One winston? Eh.

Two winstons? You'll be forcing reaper/roadhog/bastion picks because every squishy will get violently raped
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>>341367757
Halves all damage done, but not by more than 5

Doesn't do much against attacks that do a lot of damage in one hit, but against weapons that use a lot of damage ticks like the tesla cannon it's really effective
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>>341367861
>>341367757
50% only if the damage is below 10.
If it exceeds 10, then it only decreases the damage by 5.

So snipers, pharaoh, junkrat shreds armor.
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His strategy is dependent on what objective. If it's payload, you're either leaping to snipers/people running away or throwing down shields on the payload. If it's capture, I find it best to run up to people and then leap away to lure them away from the area.

>>341367359
Roadhog is fucking awesome. Eh interrupts ultimates and doesn't afraid of anything
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>>341366462
He destroys the sniper faggots
Genji is helpless against him
Gorrila Manila Magic Ultimate decimates all the shit squishes randoms are always playing

Winston is literally a counter to shit players.
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>leap as Winston to take out enemy sniper
>enemy team rapes me
>enemy winston is raping our mercy
>allies just spam "I need healing" and ignore an 800 pound gorilla raping a german woman
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>>341368852

That's what you get for playing with a bunch of Swedes
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>>341367861
>>341368083
>>341368114
Huh, I didn't know that
Does it explain that anywhere ingame or was I just not paying attention
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>always get fucked over on cute sprays

>get 3 with d.va explosion
>get 19 teleports with Symmetra
>get 3 with Mercy's rez
>get 4 with Zarya's bomb

fuck
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>>341366462
I liked him better when he was called Cheston
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>>341366462
His mobility helps close in, but it's also a good escape when things go shit. I've run in before, zapped, and as soon as people turn around I bubble and fly away. By then, a flank is set up and the bubble keeps them from shooting out briefly
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What I do with Winston:

>take down medics
>take down snipers
You can kill anyone squishy before the enemy can react if you land you jump/punch/shoot combo, and you'll almost always have the health to survive until your cooldown ends and you can jump to safety.

>cancel ults
Since the shield doesn't keep momentum, you can cancel plenty of threats with it by jumping over them. D.Va's explosion is effortless to neutralize. While High Noons, Molten Cores, DIEDIEDIE, and JUSTAUG can break through it, dropping the shield over it is going to buy a second for your team to back away (or fully absorb some of the High Noon bullets/make Pharah kill herself if she did it close to ground level). In short, if the damage source is slow, you can waste the ult completely.

>contesting
If you don't make the mistake of trying to beat someone to death, your ult (which heals you when used) gives you the ability to stall a capture for 12 seconds. If they've got less than 4 people there, you can break the push completely without being at risk of death.

What I don't use Winston for:
>actually tanking anything
>killing anything with more than 250 health
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Hi there
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>>341366462
He's good for distracting bad players. Getting people to chase you while you're jumping around to health pack to health pack while your team picks them off/goes for the objective. You can jump over a team and some of them will turn around to shoot you and then your team takes them out while their back is turned. He's basically just good for jumping in and disrupting shit.
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>>341367534
>>341368342
Keep playing roadhog. You fat cunts are just free walking ultimate chargers. I love you idiots.
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>>341369859
No monkey business.
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>>341369093
>want to platinum the game
>all of the trophies that require you to be lucky enough to have 4+ enemies in one area for you to hit your ultimate on
>Lucio 3 kills while wall riding
>Zenyatta orb of discord six seconds
>maintaining 70+ particle for a whole minute with Zarya
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>>341369859
Natural selection!
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>>341367104
But anon, anyone is better than D.Va.
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>>341369801
also good for taking out sentries and turrets
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>>341369859
EXCUSE ME

for dropping in
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>>341370229
literally the only way to get that Lucio trophy is at that spot with the bridge with the wall next to it.
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>>341367214
only 10million, it'll be dead any day now
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If he just counters shit players, why is Winston ranked among the highest used in competitive, particularly in King of the Hill?
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>>341370446
2 winston allows you go to bananas on the enemy team
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>>341370446
Sounds like you don't recognize the unspeakable horror of a 6 winston hot monkey circlejerk on the point.
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>>341367104
>D.Va main clinging on to dying hopes of his hero being good
Monkey does more dps and doesn't even have to aim
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>Up against a 6 man widowmaker team
>Entire team just goes 6 winston
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>>341370573

>2 winston allows you go to bananas on the enemy team

Why the fuck does that always get a laugh out of me?
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>>341366462

He's situational. He is very good at dealing with snipers and backline supports.
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>>341370412

I think you only need to finish 3 people off while wall riding, and it doesn't even need to be during the same wall ride, just the same life. But I don't play much Lucio who knows.
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>>341370610
I faced a team that had 4 Winstons on Offense at Hollywood. I just went Reaper and wiped the floor with them.
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>>341370818
Some things make you laugh no matter how dumb they are. It's okay, I smile at it too.
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>>341370625

D.va does more DPS, she's just garbage for chasing down people, which is pretty much her main job. Winston does that better.
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>>341367315
>Sucks against Lucio
You'd be surprised.
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>>341366462
considering his weapon can damage multiple enemies at one time and OW is a team-game where grouping up matters, yeah, I'd say he's perfectly viable.

imo winston isn't really supposed to rush down snipers and definitely not sentry guns/bastions, his damage is too low and slow to compete. He does very well when there is an established skirmish line, and he can jump across it into healers territory. Winston will completely disrupt a good team and potentially create the crack necessary to break the wall and push through. Less effective against zone based teams where everyone is spread out.
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>>341367315
>>341371223
As a lucio main, once Winston tries to dick me with his ape cock, the most I can do is bounce him away and speed boost away with amp it up if I can. If I have that on CD, it's a few agonizing seconds of getting tazered like the chimp Lucio is.
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>>341371234

The beauty of using Winston against snipers, in my opinion, is that he can jump away 6 seconds later, while most other characters on your team are going to spend more than 6 seconds just taking the non-monkey path to the sniper nest.
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>>341371101
Yeah on paper, but the monkey can hit multiple people at once. Gun goes through shields as well.
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>>341371234
>can damage multiple enemies

everyone always forgets this
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>>341369403
Its borderline immoral how much of Monday Night Combat was lifted directly into Overwatch.
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>>341371460
Lucio can easily take down Winston if he can reliably headshot, but a good Winston isn't going to let you. Without headshots, Lucio has to land every wub in every burst in order to out DPS him, and Winston doesn't have to actually aim to kill Lucio.
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>>341371460
>you will never know the pain of playing Zen "The Tank Slayer" Yatta but getting a two-piece and a biscuit from a Winston and there's nothing you can do about it
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>>341370818
Monkey jokes are the best part of playing Winston
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>>341366462
He is best husbando.
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>>341366462
Land behind the enemy team
Drop your shield
Zap anyone within range of your gun while staying inside the shield, pursue if they're on low health
Survive for at least 6 seconds, then your leap will be back and you can retreat.
Heal if you need to and wait for your shield to come back
Repeat
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>>341370625
>b-but D.Va is weak!
>b-but """""pros""""" don't pick her!
I laugh every time I blow you the fuck out with actual D.Va webms and POTGs
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>>341371702
>Take Robo Hobo
>Call him Bastion
>Give him Tank's moveset

Genius.
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>>341367267
>enemy team has three Widowmakers bullying our squishies
>go Winston and counter bully
If I had a Winston pepe I'd post it so fucking hard right now
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No... I do not want a banana.
HOW EMBARASSING.
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>>341371702

SMNC was shit, so I don't mind. They deserved to go down when they decided to make it a MOBA with horrible snowballing gameplay. No one wants to be stuck playing a game for 20+ minutes when the match is decided in 5.
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>>341370262
>also good for taking out sentries and turrets
This is bait. Symmetra, fine. Not Torbjorn or Bastion.
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>game starting
>two people lock in winston
>YES 2 winston is great
>one of the winstons switches to useless reaper/genji/hanzo cancer
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>>341372010

Thats a highlight, not POTG. And two of those kills were for 3 and 5 percent. In most games those wouldnt even be considered assists.
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>>341372010
http://masteroverwatch.com/

Post your fucking stats or shut the fuck up.
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>>341369403
>>341371702
>>341372105
Those heroes were all completely different from the OW heroes you're comparing them to and SMNC was garbage anyways
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>>341372581
Symmetra turrets will go down quickly.

Symmetra herself however is dangerous if you're not able to leap away before her rape beam charges.
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>>341372010
>35
>3
>5
>mopping up while the rest of her team is doing the heavy work
>this is considered skill by a D.VA player
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>>341372127

>a group of six genjis try to meme on us
>crush their bungholes with six winstons

50 levels above us and they didn't even try to switch to Reapers.
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>>341372010
>35
>3
>5
Nice assists you faggot.
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>>341372010
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suck a dick plebyyy
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>>341367386
>>341367386
>>341367439
Samefagging this hard.

You know what he meant and if you don't than you didn't play the game.

You lost.
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>>341372832
Pretty much, people forget that eliminations are not always actual kills.

Good D. Va players are still able to put out decent damage on headshots. Still don't know how this D. Va got away with passing right through Mei's ult though.
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My best game with Winston I joined a team getting steamrolled on Anubis and turned the game around almost singlehandedly. I'd go out to harass the attackers and fuck their Mercy/Widow then jump back to the point for healing or to wreck the dumbass Tracer who kept trying to sneak in. Was pretty fun.
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Winston is a monster on KoTH maps. The disruption he causes is incredibly helpful to a focused team.

Jump past tanks, land on squishies, drop barrier on top of them, run around moshing, jump either to safety or onto survivors.

When your ult is ready, jump in and mosh until 150ish HP and then trigger ult to top off at 1000 and start throwing bitches around (Nepal, Ilios and LiJiang allow for insane amounts of enviro kills if you herd your enemies correctly.)

He also bypasses barriers and deflects with every attack he possesses.

Downside is, yeah, hes conventionally a weak duelist versus most enemies. So hes more of a party grenade your team throws in before they storm a room.
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>>341372010
down scale your capture bud, you will make much better webms if you do
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Winston is a joy to play, melting snipers and healers after leaping behind the pack is great.
Even when I get fucking destroyed as him I can't be mad, Winston keeps me from being mad because he's a fucking ape with a jetpack, the absurdity keeps me going.
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>>341366462
i use windstone to break up the fight and distract the other team while they should either be pushing or prevent taking over a point/payload.
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>>341373562
>Winston is a monster on KoTH maps
>Jump past tanks

All they need is a reaper on their team and Winston goes down within 2 seconds. Jump pack cd is 6 seconds. Good luck.
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>>341372010
>D.Va main posts embarrassing highlight
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Give a Winston your harmony orb, and discord orb people he's attacking and he'll be your friend for life.
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>solo queue
>jump over
>start melting healers etc
>enemy team turns to deal with me
>my team doesn't move in for the easy kills
>I die
>enemy proceeds to continue pressing against my team
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>>341369005
Made me kek.
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Are we posting our potgs?

>that feeling when you make them all die, die, die
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Hanzo is such a scrubby character
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>>341374124
Based winston I love his PoTGs
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>>341374405
He is

But goddammit he's so fun to play
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>>341374105

>some heroes are good against others

Fuck, guess I'll never play... any of them.
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Thread theme

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SBP1Lxsj0wc
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>>341374373
I love how you land right on that other Reaper's head.
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>>341374373
>>341374874

Reaper hat is the best. I once ulted on top of a Roadhog's head and he didn't know what to do and died.
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>>341374681
McCree was good against everything pre-nerf.
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>>341367214
The most edgy comment of the day desu
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>>341374874
>Playing Reaper
>Mfw I teleport right into a Junkrat's bear trap
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>>341374985
Don't bully Roadhog, come on man, he can't do anything until his hook recharges.
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>>341375419

He could have just looked up and put a shotgun blast into my dick, that would have been enough to stop it.
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>>341375393
>Press shift
>Float there like a spooky ghost
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>>341375419
>Roadhog hooks me as Junkrat
>Use my mine to blast away and kill him in the process
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>>341375393
>Playing Junkrat
>Place bear traps on health packs
>Wait for some poor sap to fall for it
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>>341375635

>roadhog fucks up combo and gets punished

I hate when that happens.
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>>341375572
>Die immediately after it ends
I always have the worst luck when playing as the offense heroes
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>>341371234
>mfw winston zarya team
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>>341375780
Gotta be fast.

Sometimes the hook will fuck up and pull them behind you though. That's never good.
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Winston shits on any character with 200 HP or lower.

>hey let me just spam my jump, throw down my shield immediately then hold this one button until you die
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Winston a shit, but two Winstons on one team suddenly turn into rape escape.
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>>341375572
>Float there like a spooky ghost
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>Play with friends
>Lose constantly because they're fucking retarded and just memestrat that doesn't work, or run in to shit and never look beside/behind them
>Just get fucking mad

>Play with pubs
>They're less retarded than my friends
>Don't get fucking mad

Video Games
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>>341376265

>Play with a friend who I pocket as Mercy, we make an amazing combo typically
>Sometimes one or two of his coworkers join us
>Guy is pretty shit at the game and complains about everything being bullshit and not just gitting gud, even friend gets annoyed by him

I just want to play with my pocket and win
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>>341376265

>Play with friends
>Manage to be less mad even if we lose than if I'm playing alone

I think it partially has to do with the fact that if I lose and I'm them, I know that it's their fault so I don't feel that bad, but if I'm alone it could very well have been me that brought the team down.
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>go to site
>all stats missing

http://masteroverwatch.com/profile/shared/89c0121166368d6e

is this normal?

i have >30 hours i think
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>>341367450
Symmetra is also considered a support when she's strictly a hero for defending teams. Even on koth maps she's shit. Blizzard doesn't know what they're doing with the categories.
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>>341376583
>I know that it's their fault so I don't feel that bad
That makes it worse.

I can make MYSELF improve. I can't make them not retarded.
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>>341376265
>Play with friends
>Have fun and don't have to deal with angry teenagers getting pissed that a pub match is disorganised
>Don't care if I win or lose

>Play with pubs
>50/50 decent people to angry kids ratio
>End up annoyed at how shitty people behave over videogames
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>>341376587
arent you a permabanned shitposting tripfag?
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>>341375719
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>>341370262
>sentries
yes
>turrets
god no. Burst damage is good against those, and Winston is literally the opposite of burst damage
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>>341376265
>play with friend
>try to restrain power level and pick support or tank, he's not very good at FPS and constantly complains
>average skill level noticeably goes down next time I do solo queue
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>>341376972
You should see some of the places I hide Symmetra turrets
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>>341371702

aaah, SMNC sucked so bad I don't mind really
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>>341376081
Woah there.
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>>341369009
im sure its in there if you look deep enough but i didnt find out through game
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>>341374124
>standing next to a medkit
>lol, it's okay, only 80% HP missing
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>>341377081
>That spot under the bridge in doraro
Sucks it can't hold off a whole team but it's funny seeing tanks panic.
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I have yet to play a game mode, both defending and offensive, no matter who my teammates are, where he is not a good choice.
Winston is always 100% of the time a good pick.

Unless the enemy is memeing full Torbjorn
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>>341372010
>thinking this is a potg
>35
>3
>5

the 35 is the only time you were close to useful. Arguably you might've been useful if you distracted them in your charge through, but you took like no damage, so they didn't give a flying fuck about you. And they were right not to.
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>>341377151
Medkits are for cowards who don't have confidence in their killing abilities and want their mercy to struggle to build her ult
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>Just faced arguably the most retarded Mercy in existence
>Imp skin
>Would just sit in the middle of the area she was in and heal whoever needed it, almost always Pocketing their fucking god of a Pharah
>Got footed with Mercy, which isn't usually a problem, but our team was pantonhead retarded and didn't focus ANYONE
>Die TEN times in one Dorado match to that Pharah
>Total stomp
Matchmaking fix when?
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>>341375284
He's still good against everything in his flashbang range
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>>341377298
Says the faggot playing the "Hit Q to heal to full" monkey man
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>>341377402

I play Mercy and pocket my pharah friend, best combo, always makes me smile when someone on the enemy team makes some insult about me being up pharah's ass.
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>>341376265
>Play with Randoms
>Can choose any character I want, no one really cares

>Play with Friends
>"ANON WHAT THE FUCK WHY ARE YOU PLAYING THAT CHARACTER PLAY THIS CHARACTER REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Haven't played this game in a week because I don't want to deal with my real life friends throwing a fit and you can't appear offline because the Social tab in OW will still tell you if people are on playing.
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>>341372010

the funny thing is this guy legitimately though this was impressive, to the point that they looked through their replays, started their recording program, trimmed and shrunk it down to 3MB and then finally posted it to the thread with a funny name

the other team completely ignored you for a good reason
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>>341372917
>2 teammates pick Winston
>pick Winston expecting fun times
>another teammate does too
>one teammate spergs out about too many Winstons, threatens to report and claims that a balanced comp always will beat stacks

Sorry you're allergic to fun, spergs. Stacks are fucking hysterical
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>>341377567
>Not wanting Mercy on Pharah's ass

what a gay
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>>341375932
>lost yesterday because a mercy I hooked stopped 10 feet in front of me so I couldn't kill her
>she ults 1 second later and revives 3 people on the point
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>>341377612
>Game loads up
>We're on attack on Route 66
>Friends instantly lock in double Torbjorn and bastion

I literally get mad right away because we're going to lose before we hit the fucking gas station.
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>>341370015
And then he counters your ult with his ult or his hook. Stop saying this dumb ult charger shit, it makes you look like a retard.
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>>341377567
Well the thing is, they never used right click. Are Mercy bots a thing?
>Next match is Volskaya total shutout again with a god of a Junkrat
I am starting to get tired of this game's matchmaking. It's still fun, but being put up against teams of premades and people whose combined level is TEN TIMES our combined level, is NOT fun.
And it happens a LOT.
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>>341377804
>Torbs and bastions on route 66 offense

tired of these nigs. It takes like the whole team's support to be mildly effective.
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>>341378434

Oh not using right click, pretty dumb Mercy then, damage boost is one of her best assets by far, especially on a good pharah. As for the matchmaking, it can be hit or miss. Sometime me and my friend have good nights and get paired of with usually competent people, other times we get matches where my friend has 4 gold medals and our team isn't doing jack shit. Unfortunately it's a bit harder to carry in OW than TF2.
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>>341372010
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>>341378434
>Junkrat
I'm tired of this fag in general.

He does too much fucking damage and never has to aim shit and even if you fucking kill him if you're too close you fucking die anyway.
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>>341378815
his skill floor is ridiculously low, but he's alright
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>>341377452
No I play the "press E to aoe heal everyone around you" brazilian hockey player
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>>341378760
>Xbone
>disgusting fag taunting
>Dva player
Fucking ah I'm glad I am a ps4 shitter
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Best off tank, you pick him to fuck with certain characters like widow

Can't compete with Reinhardt for main tank
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>>341378760
The best part of that webm is the Rein's Zarya shielding him at the last second.
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>>341378815
>Mfw killing fags like you
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>>341378815
if I was going to nerf anything about junkrat it would be his matrydom or his trap desu
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>>341377673

>Whole team stacks 76 on Numbani defense
>BTFO the other team with constant healing and DPS at all distances
>mfw
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>>341379679
>his matrydom
Do people actually get hit by that? I guess I don't do CQC on him and so maybe that's why I don't find it much of a problem.
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>>341380535
I mean he's not extremely OP, I don't know why you would ruin his main weapon when he's already pretty balanced
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he's competitive
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>>341380485
>defense on kings row
>getting stomped
>last 15 meters of the game
>whole team says fuck it and picks soldier 76
>hold the point for 8 fucking minetues and over time
>win the game and PoTG goes to a I GOT YOU IN MY SIGHTS team kill
fucking glorious the fact 3 of them quit and the rest were saying shit in the chat made it better.
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This has happened DOZENS of times now.
Come the fuck on.
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He is now A+++ tier now that Mcree is nerfed.
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>>341380862
just play an AI game m8
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>>341380750
>Defense on Anubis
>5 torbs and one Lucio
>They don't even capture the first point
That one faggot that went Lucio didn't want to join in on the fun but we still won anyway.
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>>341380869
He can still kill everyone it's not even much of a nerf. Fan the hammer does 270 instead of 450 but it gets the job done.
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>>341367104
D.va cant chase.

She moves at the speed of a cripple with leg braces while firing a gun with unreasonably high falloff.

Its actually really hard to shake a winston.
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>>341381127
>180 damage difference
>literally an entire tracer
>not much of a nerf
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>>341381127
lol, now he actually has to hit most of his shots.
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>>341381224
Why the fuck would you need to kill two tracers in one fucking fan?
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>>341380716
>MEI IS OP!!!!!
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>>341379209
>playing overwatch without a mouse
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>>341381492
I have it on pc too but I have more friends and it runs/looks better on my ps4 over pc because I haven't upgraded it since like 2011 besides drivers.
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>>341380750
There's honestly nothing you can do against 76 stacking.

No hero directly counters 76, and 76 has decent mobility, great damage, good range, and an aoe heal.
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>>341366462
He's good for harassing mobile squishies and builders
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>Anubis defense
>we set up like always, Torbjörn turret, Symmetra sentries, a Junkrat, Widowmaker, Mercy, Reinhardt (me)
>Attackers incoming!
>two Winstons jump in
>destroy all the sentries because fuck aiming, our Symmetra was gone in seconds
>they jump to our Mercy, I managed to hammer one down and get the other to leave, but our Mercy was dead
>meanwhile the remaining four players killed our Junkrat and stormed the point, our Torb could build a new turret and contested the point, I only remember they had a Lucio and Soldier76, the rest I forgot
>the Winstons came back, I didn't have full hp because health packs do nothing to Reinhardt, but managed to kill one again anyway
>it was the wrong one, the other went berserk and killed our Mercy and Symmetra once again
>we lost A within 2 minutes
>we managed to defend B for about 5 minutes
>the Symmetra switched to Reaper, the Widowmaker went Bastion
>then both Winstons came in and went bananas, a Lucio ult was thrown in as well
>1500hp double Winston plus their whole team on the point
>hell breaks loose, every ult available gets thrown in, I remember I took down their Lucio
>even the Bastion ult could not do anything, they just threw him around and he couldn't aim

Winston is not to be underestimated, he can mess up squishy heroes pretty bad. He can even mess with a flying Pharah. He can jump away from danger, towards opponents and protect his team with the barrier, even though it's not as high as Reinhardts, but it's spherical which is very useful.
Not to mention he is funny as hell, it's hilarious to shock enemies with his gun, they always sperge out.
>excuse me for dropping in!
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>>341381224

They brought him down to what he is supposed to be, he still kills most softies in one Fan. He just now can't drop tanks as well which he never should have been able to do.
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>>341381992
Reminder that the first trailer got it right
If enemies start going ape to attack your Widow, just counter him by playing the best hero
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>>341366462
I hate playing as him. Most of the time he's pretty useless.
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>>341382303
Why does he have 3 arms?
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>>341381992
>He gave your healer the monkey dick and you couldn't do a single thing
how does it feel to be such a helpless little toy anon?
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>>341382414
*grows another arm and 2 heads to shoot you as well*
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>tfw you want to play with a friend but they don't want to just because you're not as high level as them
i remember the days when there weren't levels and even nowadays with levels they hardly account for anything other than time played
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>>341382303
So is Reaper supposed to just be magic? or does he have some bullshit science explanation?
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Why does everyone underestimate Zarya?
How do I play her better?
Why do dumbasses keep shooting after I put my bubble up?
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>>341372010
>thinks this is impressive
Embarassing
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>>341382706
>Tell team not to shoot her shield it charges up her rape lazer
>some faggots tells me don't tell me how to play and does nothing but shoot her shield as reaper
I'm still mad
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>>341382671
Something along the lines of he got rezzed wrong after the Overwatch base explosion, plus he was also a super soldier like s76, as so now his cells are in a constant state of regenerating and decaying

This somehow translates into being able to control them like they're nanomachines.

Also I think he's supposed to actually have all the guns on him
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>>341382820
I would do the same thing desu
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>>341383105
Why for what reason I just want to be able to kill the bitch
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>>341382706
>Why does everyone underestimate Zarya?
cause they are retards
>How do I play her better?
Aim the bomb and combo them with the laser, dont overextend and try to use many shields you can, ult is really slow to charge but really good.
They can break the shield but it will put you at 50 charge.
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>>341382706
Against good teams your projected barrier will be 10x more useful than your self barrier. If people won't shoot my shield, I'll hang back and shield a tank that everyone starts focusing fire on.
Like zenyatta is best paired with another support, zarya is best paired with another tank. Especially.
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>>341382820
The only time it's acceptable to shoot her shields is when you know she has low health. If she's at like 5%, and she pops her shield, go for it. You might be able to out DPS her if you can get around her. But that's really the ONLY time you should ever shoot her shield.

Otherwise DO NOT SHOOT HER FUCKING SHIELD.
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>>341383180
Because I'm playing solo queue quick play. I just want to fuck around and have fun, and watching somebody get uppity about something I do in a pixel world is pretty funny to me.
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>>341380716
>>341381389
>basing anything at all on competitive stats
>a scene that notoriously doesn't try anything new once it finds one specific comp/meta that works

mei, pharah, reaper and zenyatta are all ridiculously good in many scenarios but most comp teams like to stack fucking genjis and mcrees(can't fault that) instead of trying anything else
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>>341383365
Triggered
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>>341383248
Zarya/Roadhog and Zarya/Winston are the best combos. Zarya/Reinhardt is OK, but I don't think you get damage boost if he's shielding while being bubbled. Could be wrong though, don't play enough Zarya.
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>>341382432
I don't think I couldn't do a single thing, I could do a lot on B because our Mercy could LShift to someone else, out of money range. I could hold them off pretty good. We lost A because we were not prepared for double monkey action and B because of a massive ult massacre. She even got her ult off and revived 3 of us without dying to monkey trouble
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>>341383463
I was supposed to say "especially roadhog" but I got distracted and ended the post there. But roadhog/zarya is indeed the best combo, especially with this "lol ult battery" meme.
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>>341383463
>Playing Mystery heros
>team ends up with 4 zaryas a winston and roadhog
>no one died once
I felt bad for the defense team
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>>341383463
You don't, but shielding him allows him to be more aggressive with his fire strikes and charges and even hammer swings, and you get damage boosts for it. An aggressive Reinhardt in the right hands can be fucking terrifying and you can make it happen.

But therein lies the main issue with Zarya: if the team is playing too passively she's almost useless.
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>>341383243
This, get charge and right click the enemy team.

If you can get a good ult at high charge you can right click the ball of enemies for a team kill.
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>>341383379
for good reason

but I mean if you understand the true potential of a character, why don't you try blowing them out of the water with tactics no one expects
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Furious George takes a pretty big shit on Hanzos, Widows, and, if the enemy team is bad enough to not defend their healers, Mercy and Zen.

His high jump will let him close distances between supports and snipers, and I usually pop the barrier on the Payload, on top of Torb's turret, a Bastion or 76's Biotic field. My team likes me for this.

If you're good and the map has pits, push them in with your Ult. It's also great for healing, having TONS of mobility, and general distracting/panic the enemy team. I don't go for kills when enraged though. I just haven't gotten the hang of it. (Though I often push people into pits if I can.)

In short, harass enemy squishies, shield friendly encampments.

>Mfw I killed the same Hanzo over 17 times in a single match, almost always in the same spot.
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Hes a cool concept but his whole kit is fucked. His jump makes him effective at taking out squishier targets for which he has enough damage output but for he struggles with anyone else putting him at a disadvantage against other tanks. His shield would be alright if the cd was shorter but it would also be too overpowered in certain game modes. His ult is good for disrupting the enemy team or getting people off an objective but thats about it meaning it's use is very situational and limited.
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>>341370229

really the only stupid ones are the 3 solo kills with one reaper clip, wall riding as lucio, and rapid discord. everything else you can most definitely get by playing well
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>>341383831
because losing a single game is a big deal to those spergs
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>>341383868
And Winston is the only character I cant beat as Symmetra, and I main her.
His stupid gun auto-busts sentries at any angle
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>>341366462
I find him very useful in koth matches especially if your team constantly huddles up around the point
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>>341372010
A soldier could've done this faster, better, and been helpful to his team at the same time.
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>>341383549
You shouldn't have helped her anon shes a slut she likes it
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>>341384248
>maining
>maining symmetra
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>>341384525
Say that to my 73% winrate on her :^)
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>>341384248
This is another reason I enjoying playing Winston.

>Hold Left-click to win.

Too bad the damage is shit. (On the plus side, Reinhardt and Genji shitters ain't got nothing on lightning.)
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>>341376265
>>341376583
Damn I wish I had that. Play solo only, even when I'm doing really well myself, and even when my team wins I still get pretty irritated over shit. I have found random players are usually complete retards. i can't even count the number of times we've been in overtime and the stupid fucks waste time trying to pick off enemy defences rather than getting on the fucking point to keep overtime going. Similarly theres been a few times I've wiped out most of the enemy (or at least the ones on the point) but died in the process, and nobody goes to take the point.And the worst is when people think they can just kill the enemy on escort missions, like they dont even realise if we dont push back the payload when it's clear then it's right where the enemy left it when they come back.
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>>341384660
winrate means literally nothing, you can leave before you lose any game and never lose ever
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>>341366462
>How viable is Winston?
I don't play black characters.
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Despite mediocre DPS, Winston is actually crazy good. Jump pack is probably the best mobility special in the entire game and bubble shield allows him to create a zoning situation where you have to either retreat or approach him. If the enemy team's DPS is dead or dicking around, he essentially gets to kill supports for free. Primal Rage is also very helpful since it doubles as a survival tool along with a way to break hold setups during stalemates.

Winston is a disruptor, NOT a fragger. You cannot take on actual DPS classes like McCree, Tracer, or 76 one-on-one, and trying to take a fight with Reaper is suicide.
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>>341384810
>Winston
>black
Fuck you how are you insult best bro like that.
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>>341369859
Did somebody say [/spoiler]peanutbutter?
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>>341383248
You don't have to shield a tank. Shielding a squishy dps is way more useful.
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>>341384808
You must be a real shitter to actual know that.
How many games have you left, buddy?
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>>341380535
>Junkrat knows he's going to die.
>Just runs at you while shooting
>If you run away he lives and you die to MUH INSTANT RELOAD BOMBS
>Shoot him
>Die to martyrdom shit, or running backwards in to MUH BOMBS

Fuck memerat.
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>>341384810
He's clearly purple.
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>>341380535
>>341385018
They do a lot of damage and the explosive range is actually surprisingly large

Should be changed to only drop 1 grenade per shot he has left in his launcher tbqh
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>>341375419
Small pigs are cute
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>>341385018
>Junkrat is runnign at you
>kill him before he reaches you
What's the problem here? Junkrat only excels are mass artillery fire onto objectives or point blank close quarters combat and flanking
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>>341385007
tons of games because there is no reason not to before you get penalized

matchmaking right now is awful, I'm not going to play with people 50 levels lower than me just because blizzard didn't think I'd be willing to wait an extra 30 seconds
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>>341384037
I forgot about the Reaper one, that one's retarded too, as well as the full powered scoped headshot while in midair with Widowmaker.

The +4 Ultimate trophies aren't hard, it's just a matter of luck that you happen to have four people in the area while you trigger it, I haven't played for very long yet, only at level 32, but the amount of times I've missed out by one kill
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>>341384525
Symmetra is mandatory on Dorado and Hanamura
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>>341385664
>Dorado
>not Volskya
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>>341385303
>Junkrat just spins like an autist holding LMB
>One pill hits you
>CHUNK
>Lose 2/3rds of your health
What a fucking bullshit character.
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how do i get good at this game

Just bought it and I'm having trouble with Tracer and Lucio.
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>>341383379
Mei is only good at stalling cap on defense due to Cryofreeze allowing her to block point/payload, which is fucking retarded.

Pharah is used extremely often in one-hero limit (which seems to be the direction the competitive metagame is going) and goes fairly even with McCree in damage, despite how Widow-centric the meta is right now.

Reaper has seen significantly more use in one-hero limit and replaces the second McCree quite often.

Zenyatta is crazy situational and Winston and Widowmaker makes his life a living hell.
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>>341385932
git gud
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>>341385854
>Meeting a explosive expert in a closed area
>not expecting to get hit
that will almost never happen out in the open unless they are good with the angles and bounces or you are standing in place.
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>>341385854
>grenades explode on hit even if they've bounced
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>>341385740
volskaya's first point is good for symmetra but you might as well switch once it's lost
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>>341386183
Her sentrys can shut down either the right or left side to breach from on top of being able to spam her M2 at the front door.
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>>341386115
>Overwatch
>"open areas"
90% of this game is an "enclosed area" unless it's a
>Widowmaker hallway featuring Reinhardt
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>>341384248
>abuse Symmetra's sentries for free, riskless energy as Zarya
>immediately blow them all up with a single M2
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How do we fix Roadhog?
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>>341386364
What is
>temple of anubis
>most of volskya
>hollywood
>numbani
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>>341386312
yeah too many times i've completely shutdown one of the entrances. the enemy team's response? don't go that way and leaving me twiddling my thumbs
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>>341385854
>does as much damage as Pharah
>same health as Pharah
>less manoeuvrable than Pharah
>rate of fire half a second slower than Pharah
>reload time half a second slower than Pharah
>1 less projectile in a clip than Pharah
Yeah Junkrat is such bullshit and needs to be nerfed.
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>>341386587
Nigga if they don't go that way they are doing their job it gives you a sense of sercurity knowing one way is closed off and you don't have to worry about it. When a sentry breaks you know someone is there always. Are you such a killer hungry faggot you don't understand the role of a builder support character?
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>>341372010
*farts*
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>>341380716
nerfed last patch
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>>341386801
shutting down one of the 5-6(depending on the character) entrances is not a fair trade for your team losing a teammate.

symmetra's best best on 2nd is to spread out the turrets and do like you said and use them as a signal for incoming enemies and warn your team. but you're still not doing much damage, barely a distraction, and praying your rando pubber teammates will listen
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>>341386783
>manoeuvrable
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>>341386450
Hook doesn't stun you like a flashbang. You can defend yourself while you're being pulled towards him.
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