So then does Breath of The Wild take place in the wind waker timeline?
>>341325782
Probably really fucking far in, remember in WW when you had to go plant seeds around the islands and they said that it turns them into more land? This is all probably the result of that.
>>341325782
What says it has anything to do with the wind waker time line?
We don't rightfully know what a deku shrub looks like in the Failed hero time line (the Zelda 1 and 2 path)
>>341326243
Doesnt really mean anything. How would there be the castle and temple there?
Though seeing koroks is odd. Same as SS ChuChus
>>341327097
>How would there be the castle and temple there?
People built them of course.
>>341325782
>giving a flying fuck about zelda timelines
>>341327097
If you actually played the WW line then you'd know they abandoned old Hyrule and rebuilt.
>>341327219
So its a Hyrule that rose on the old one and fell again?
I find it odd they already confirmed Ganon for villian without even showing him.
>>341327527
I'm just speculating, but I'd assume so. Hyrule gets fucked over a lot.
>>341325782
It takes place in the Zelda is a dead franchise timeline
Rusted Master Sword makes me think it has to be long after any of the mainline 3D games. If the Kokiri evolved into the Koroks in one timeline, I don't see why they couldn't in another.
I'm placing my bets on before Zelda 1, because the Master Sword isn't even in that game.
>>341327489
That was Spirit Tracks Hyrul,e
>>341325782
Who cares?
Not sure if it does OP since they showed wolf link.
I think this whole game is the aftermath of all man.
nah, they know we will wreck our brains around the continuity and they are just sipping sake and raffing their asses off
>>341327489
so what happened to the old hyrule they abandoned
It's Ocarina of time 500-1000 years into the future.
The old man you meet at the start of the game is Ganondorf, who has wiped out most of the people in Hyrule except for himself, and is left now to wander it's decimated carcass knowing that he could never give his people the land they wantedI hope
>>341327848
It was wiped from existence, along with Ganondorf and the Master Sword.
Japanese dialogue is a bit different than the NoA translation.
>>341325782
I CAN'T STOP READING BREATH OF THE WILD AS BREATH OF FIRE
HELP
>>341325782
>catalogs are hard
>>341319303
>>341327998
>It's Ocarina of time 500-1000 years into the future.
That could mean any of 3 things at this point you doofus
>>341328054
I read it as Beast the first timethen breast
>>341325782
old man mentions, that great plateau is a bitrhplace for legendary Hyrule, so i guess that indicates that hyrule doesn't exist for hundreds nor thousands of years?
It's a retelling of the events of Zelda 1.
What if it's a fucked up world that's an amalgamation of the other timelines because of the time traveling world ending shenanigans that happen on a daily basis in the franchise?
>>341325782
Does that mean we'll see Ritos again?
>>341329010
no the wolfpeople extincted them
>>341325782
After phantom hourglass but before spirit tracks.
>>341325782
The Master Sword is a broken rusted mess in the opening title. I'm assuming this is, if the timeline is being taken into account (which it never fucking should be, EVER) then it could be the latest in said timeline.
>>341332381
That's what happens when Fi lets Link fuck her into oblivion. She gets broken by the fuckimg and rusted from all the cum.
>>341332687
>fucking something that rusts
how even
It's either thousands of years in the future or the start of a new time line as an alternate version of Zelda 1.
>>341326765
Koroks are what the Kokiri turned into in the WW timeline. Looking forward to seeing more Rito girls.
>>341328210
Two you mean.
There is no third timeline.
>>341332687
This reads like it was written by an 8th grade boy.
>>341334319
There is anon.
There is...
>>341325782
>drowned hyrule
>water evaporates
>the ruined land is now on the surface again
>islands 100s of ft up in the sky on massive pillars
>they're wind waker areas
As much as Aonuma's tried to push Wind Waker too much, I'd cum buckets.
>>341325782
>Hyrule has declined
>Zelda I and II are the era of decline
Original timeline confirmed. First ALBW, now this. Finally some canonical Zelda games.
>koroks
time and magic, don't gotta explain shit
>>341334895
Agreed. Kokiri can easily have become the Korok for reasons besides the flood in other timelines.
>>341334473
Show me the third timeline in the ending to Ocarina of Time.
Show me something is not by definition a retcon. In case I have to explain it to you, that means it's not canon.
Unless this game shows a flashback to Link getting impaled by Ganon, it's not canon to it wither.
>>341327998
>The old man you meet at the start of the game is Ganondorf
>Implying he's notthe king of Hyrule.
>>341325782
Timeline doesn't matter when there are TWO links in the same timeline because of amibos. If anything, it has to be somehow after twilight princess.
Didn't link leave the master sword to drown along with ganon and hyrule at the end of WW? It would make sense then that this is the same land resurfaced ages and ages later and that's the same master sword being rusted for staying underwater so long (hyrule was sealed from the waters during ww so it wouldn't have rusted)
There is no proof whatsoever that koroks do not exist in a state of quantum flux between timelines.
>>341335314
>>Show me something is not by definition a retcon
Lmao. There are three timelines, get over it.
>>341335774
This makes sense.
>>341335714
If it was Ganon after WW he'd need something to cover up his huge fucking forehead scar, anyway.
>>341335314
>die to ganon
>???
Do you really need to be show an cutscene of ganon getting to power and shit?
Link dies after the game over, thats obvious.
You game over on final ganon, then ganon wins.
Then the sages come and try to buttfuck ganon.
etc.
>>341335774
Thats... make sense.
Still, who removed it from Ganon's head?
Go away paid snill.
>>341336145
All the Sages with Link could not defeat Ganon at the end. What makes you think, that a Ganon empowered with the Triforces of Courage and Power would be defeated by Zelda without the Master Sword?
>>341336670
>zelda
Nigga what.
The sages seal ganon, then Alttp happens.
I hope this game has no ganon. He is canonically dead at the end of each timeline at this point, having this take place at the farthest point in the timeline and have a final showdown with Demise would be a nice way to bookend the series but it will never happen
>>341336949
Don't the triforce of power plus demise's curse give Ganon immortaly or some shit?
>>341335770
Can anyone justify this? It's cannon, it's in the universe. You can't just ignore it.
>>341335314
The original timeline is the canon one. Ocarina and its branching timelines are not canon.
>canon maymay
>>341328054
Breath of the Wild is a lame title anyway
>>341336834
No, they don't. It's not in the game, and it contradicts ALttP which says that the hero's blood flows through your veins.
You don't know anything about Zelda.
>>341334895
this is what I'm feeling too
it feels like it's either a remake of LoZ 1, or it takes place before
or maybe it falls in between OoT and LttP
>>341337246
The ALttP manual only describes the sages sealing Gabon away actually
After Windwaker
>>341337246
It only tells that the sages seal ganon after an war, not what happened before it.
For fuck's sake, stop being so salty about that.
>>341327998
that's the dumbest shit i've ever heard
also,
>implying the villian will be anything but an angry person who is evil and wants to destroy and/or rule everything
>>341337624
now, how did spirit tracks lonk and zolda fucked up?
>>341337070
ToP gives him immortality as long as he has it, which is until someone actually beats him 1v1 like in TP. Demise curse lets him be reincarnated so he can continue to be pissed off about things.
>>341337624
one more
>>341327097
they got pushed up to the top of the ocean and somehow, through Aonuma physics the land stayed level and intact not destroying the foundations of any of the buildings but causing slight damage to the infrastructure
>>341327489
you faggot
New Hyrule is far away on another continent somewhere founded after Phantom Hour Glass but before Spirit Tracks
they just confirmed gerudo desert so where the actual fuck is this game
>>341337519
>>341337668
The Sages and Ganon are never mentioned in the same context in ALttP. You would know this if either of you actually played the game.
They sealed the forces arising from the Dark Realm after Ganon perverted it. Yes, like OoT. But Ganon was not IN the Dark Realm.
READING COMPREHENSION, DO YOU KNOW OF IT?
>>341338295
Clip?
>>341326243
I hope there's a lot of deku trees around to talk to. I love those fuckers.
>>341325782
I don't think it does.
A. Hyrule is "decaying", whereas it should be gone if it was after Wind Waker
B. Ganon is alive
C. Koroks don't prove its in the Wind Waker timeline. Kokiri could have transformed into them in other timelines as well.
>>341338295
It's hyrule man.
We saw the Temple of Time from Ocarina like 5 seconds into the gameplay demo.
>>341338331
Why.
Are.
You.
So.
Angry.
About.
This?
>>341325782
It's a tie-in.It's actually kind of a post-apocalyptic Zelda, the world has ended and the few living beings left are all spirits of the past. The old mand is Ganondorf, since he literally will always come back to life. The game is about Link trying to get to the Master Sword, which is the single thing holding the dead Huryle in piece. Ganondorf will help Link as the old man, he just simply hopes to be able to finally rest. Zelda is the last boss, all her incarnations formed a goddess and she caused the world to end. All those machines are made by her and they're one of the instrument which caused the world to end.
>>341338497
sorry i meant gerudo valley
they showed this bridge, i dont have a clip
between phantom hourglass and spirit tracks for sure
>>341337876
The only time he actually reincarnates is in FsA though, he is the same ganon in every other game (split between multiple timelines of course)
We also never see the human form of Ganon in FsA so for all we know he could even be radically different before turning into a pig.
I don't really like the curse of Demise since it removes agency from Ganon as a villain making him a lot less threatening but eh.
>>341338802
>Old man is Ganondorf
>but this thing >>341337624 is Ganon
Exorcised Dorf might be interesting.
>>341339137
I like to think that ganon is half demise's anger and half ganon itself wanting to fuck things.
>>341338592
>ganon is alive
that's putting a lot of faith in nintendo even attempting to write a plot twist into a game. The old man looks like the king of hyrule, so he's definetly going to be the king of hyrule.
>>341338331
Lol you're retarded.
"The wise men and the Knights Of Hyrule combined forces to wage war on this evil horde. The Knights took the full brunt of the fierce attack, and although they fought courageously many a brave soul was lost that day, However, their lives were not lost in vain, for they bought precious time for the Seven Wise Men to magically seal Ganon in the Golden land. All of Hyrule rejoiced at the victory that upheld peace and order over Ganon's evil and chaos."
Ocarina of Time's final boss isn't the Imprisoning War
>>341338592
>A. Hyrule is "decaying", whereas it should be gone if it was after Wind Waker
After it's unflooded.
The ground is eroded and rounded from the flow of waters.
The land is unpopulated and wild because the people left.
>B. Ganon is alive
Demise or just magic nigga, Ganon can be anywhere anywhen.
>C. Koroks don't prove its in the Wind Waker timeline. Kokiri could have transformed into them in other timelines as well.
Their evolutionary specialization like the Rito, is the result of adapting to the flooded world.
The Rito adapted to fly over the water.
The Koroks adapted to live with the tree and spread its seeds to regrow the world.
>>341337081
They show a decrepit bridge of eldin in the trailer
>>341339572
>the zoras, built to live underwater, adapted to a flooded world by turning into fucking birds
this will never stop being funny to me
>>341339572
>After it's unflooded.
Wonder who the fuck did that, there was a fucking ocean of water.Its prob magic.
>>341327848
It was flooded with the rest of the old world as part of the King's last wish. Tetra uses her ancestral bloodright to found the new Kingdom so Status Quo is maintained.
>>341339928
Zoras are not made for salt water.
I think...
Pretty sure this is the Great Bridge of Hylia
>>341339931
Well it is littered with Sheikah shit. Gotta be magic.
>>341339137
I have mixed feeling about the Demise thing, but I think it at least makes Ganon a bit more sympathetic. Is he literally the hate curse incarnated? Or did the curse enter him at birth, making him cruel, greedy and dangerously unstable? Either way, the guy was destined to be the villain.
Going by the master sword placement I would guess the original timeline. Child timeline is also possible because Link left the sword in the woods then as well. I think there's some deliberate resemblance to the one in ALttP/ALBW though. Also the setting of a declined Hyrule and the "decline" label used in the (albeit translated) historia.
>>341339572
>The Koroks adapted to live with the tree and spread its seeds to regrow the world.
Hyrule seems to be in a rough time in this game, maybe the Koroks need to grow new Deku trees for a different reason.
Weren't Sheikah extinct throughout the WW timeline?
How do they return after thousands of years?
>>341340698
>Hyrule seems to be in a rough time in this game, maybe the Koroks need to grow new Deku trees for a different reason.
With a few exceptions most of the trees look very young.
There's a few giant rotted logs laying about though.
>>341339559
No shit Sherlock.
>>341340501
Koroks don't exist outside the adult timeline though
old Hyrule got pushed up to the surface thanks to the Deku Trees they planted and the Master Sword rusted from all the time it spent below the ocean
>>341325782
the ruins of the temple of time are in the demo so who knows
>>341339572
They said there are towns and people you can meet. That and they confirmed Ganon is back.
Also look at the logo for the game. It's a rusted ass Master Sword.
>>341340441
I think wind waker made a better job of making him sympathetic. His land was shit and wanted a better life for him and his people. Though yeah, I guess seeing it that way makes it better.
>>341340501
The pedestal in alttp/albw is the same as the one in OoT, it's just that the temple crumbled and woods grew around it eventually. TP shows the beginning of that process.
>>341327527
>they're switching up the formula this time around
>probably gonna subvert expectations
>ganon is in the game
>they say this straight out in the demo
>what would subvert expectations?
>ganon isn't the villain
I'd love this.
We might have seen him anyway. That once NPC who's really friendly towards Link.
>>341340209
There are Zora in the ocean in Oracle of Ages and Majora's Mask
>>341341031
I'm inclined to thinking they're fast and loose with lore anyway and just wanted to use koroks i.e. anything that contradicts what I say can be disregarded.
>>341341213
>Ganon is just an extra/end-game boss with his own dungeon that's actually irrelevant to the games story
>lets you sync your cellphone with the mastersword so Fi can call you up and say "hey"
Since it mentions the goddess Hylia and not Din, Nayru and Farore i assume its sometime after Skyward sword
>>341341024
Then what's your fucking problem? There's nothing wrong with the Decline timeline and Link dying since the Imprisoning War never had a hero assist the sages sealing Ganon
>>341327527
an NPC refers to "the Calamity Ganon"
he's like an evil force this time around
>>341335310
That's assuming they even have a 'true form'. Korok, Keewit, Kokiri, perhaps even skull kids.. what if they're all just one and the same, forest spirits that can take on new forms from time to time?
>>341328354
I would actually really like this to be true. It's got the feel down as a proper Open World Zelda in the the style of the original.
I hope all the other area's look this great.
>>341341662
The world seems to have already been laid to waste. I'd love it if Ganon was around but wasn't an antagonist. He's evil and he destroyed everything and now he's just empty inside.
>>341341492
>Ganon dungeon that isn't a boring mishmash of previous dungeon gimmicks and then a bunch of stairs
I can only hope
>>341325782
It's not impossible. We might even bee seeing the same Link from WW. When he wakes up and leaves he exits from a placed called the Shrine of Resurrection or some shit.
>>341341213
>Link is blue
>Link CAN jump
>Ganon isn't the villain
It all makes sense to me
so the new zelda actually looks good?
cool. will probably not buy a WiiU for it doe
>>341341605
>Since it mentions the goddess Hylia and not Din, Nayru and Farore i assume its sometime after Skyward sword
Every Zelda game is sometime after Skyward Sword
>all these theories
>no mention of the MGS Venom Link/robo-Link theory
It's the craziest yet most intriguing theory out there so far, imo.
Didn't Aonuma confirm that the story is going to be a lot more cryptic this time round?
>>341342168
heres a pic
He's trying to end the world this time around, I guess he just degenerated into pure evil
>>341341031
>find the Master Sword stuck in an overgrown potrusion on the ground
>pull it out
>suddenly you're standing on Ganon's head and he's pissed
>>341342639
Yeah that reincarnation machine just built an android Link to save them, it's pretty obvious.
>>341342925
>find Master Sword
>pull it out
>it's rusty as shit
>does less damage than the traveler's sword
And then you can find a way to repair it, I guess.
>>341341487
that's fair
I don't know though
I think they're only bad with science
like Zoras evolving into birds and in who knows how little time
but the fact that they're using Boko Sticks from the Boko Babas in Wind Waker as opposed to Deku Sticks from Deku Babas makes me think they're establishing that it's in the Adult Timeline
in regards to the master sword placement, I think they're just aware that the Master Sword looks the best when it's in a serene outside garden area, like in Twilight Princess, Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds
Sacred Grove just looks a lot fucking better than inside a temple. Also what >>341341157 said
if I had to guess where the Master Sword is now
I'd say maybe Ganondorf broke the seal once the land was pushed up and he's confirmed to be in this game, since Miyamoto mentioned how you can even fight him, whilst naked.
I'm guessing someone probably just put it in a pedestal or maybe it's at the ruins of Ganon's Tower. Ganondorf isn't back and someone smashed up his stone body and fashioned a pedestal out of his rock solid corpse
>>341342925
kek
>>341342725
hope somebody can get a source for this, because that sounds great. The idea of the story not being so apparent this time around makes more room for gameplay. Honestly this game is just finding a million new ways every segment to surprise and amaze me, I've not been this excited for a game, since I was a kid
>>341337624
>>341338040
How does this prove anything?
>>341325782
Yes
>The Koroks were once the human-shaped Kokiri, but when Hyrule was transformed into the Great Sea, they took on a more plant-like appearance. The Great Deku Tree says in the game, "Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes."
IE they evolved when hyrule was flooded, then wind waker happened and now it isn't flooded anymore
>>341333778
YES. I almost forgot about the rito. So fucking pumped to see them again
>>341325782
It's definitely the end of one of the timelines, but Koroks could easily surface after TP
I doubt the Zelda team even remembers where they came from
>>341343482
It doesn't, I just think they're interesting.
The presence of Koroks though means it absolutely HAS to be after Windwaker since the transformation of the Koroks and Rito are adaptations to a flooded Hyrule.
>>341343636
>now it isn't flooded anymore
>Ruining one of the most poignant story telling moments of the Zelda franchise
thanks Aonuma
Why hasn't Nintendo made a TV series that follows OOT Link's journey to find Navi post-MM?
>>341343919
>it absolutely HAS to be
I'm going to 'ave a giggle when it's one of the other timelines.
>>341325782
Why can't it be a mix of all the timelines? It's got the wolf too, and I doubt nintendo would care much about making things even more confusing
>>341344089
Nigga, they evolved because of the fucking flood.
>>341343919
>The presence of Koroks though means it absolutely HAS to be after Windwaker since the transformation of the Koroks and Rito are adaptations to a flooded Hyrule.
I think they'll just make some bullshit about Koroks appearing in the child timeline too. Too much doesn't fit for this to simply be a Wind Waker sequel
>>341344069
because OoT link doesn't have a happy end, in any timeline
>>341325782
Its clearly a remake/reboot of the original Legend of Zelda
>>341344210
What doesn't fit?
>>341344029
>make prequel featuring the origins of Ganon as a man named Ganondorf
>make two sequels to it that contradict it being a prequel
>the master sword sleeps FOREVER
>lol jk link picked it up again like a hundred years later but it's alright he put it back
>>341343773
Literally my original waifu
>>341344363
The fact that this looks like old Hyrule with the original Master Sword. The King wished for it to be forever washed away, and Link and Tetra restarted the royal bloodline in the far away New Hyrule.
>>341344195
Maybe climate change occurred and kokiri forest kept getting flooded. You know as well as anybody there's a possibility they'll just ignore the lore. It's Aonuma, this is why there's three timelines to begin with.
Guys.
GUYS.
If this takes place in the WW timeline, howdid the Master Sword get from being embedded in Big G's skull to being at a pedestal in the woods?
does anyone knows if there are actually "story" long dungeons? or just those shitty 1 puzzle mini dungeons
>>341344594
>The fact that this looks like old Hyrule with the original Master Sword.
Did you even play Windwaker?
We know for a fact, that the entire kingdom is just the bottom of the ocean.
You fucking go there in-game.
>>341344594
And this could be set centuries later after the land resurfaced. I agree it's retarded but zora turning into fish and the master sword sleeping forever while getting picked up every other game also happened.
it's kinda surprising that they just start the game with link waking up from stasis, no build up whatsoever. feels like a deliberate callback to the original zelda game.
>>341325782
More importantly, what is with the eye theme of this game?
>open your eyes, link
>>341344749
Yes, they've said this multiple times, and you'd be delusional to think they'll make a Zelda game without dungeons.
The mini dungeons aren't even called dungeons, they're called "Shrines" presumably for the specific purpose of differentiating them
>>341344791
>That doesn't explain how the Master Sword went from being impaled in Ganondorf's Head, to being back at the sacred temple.
I'm pretty sure it being inside him helped seal him for good.
>>341344670
They built a temple thing over his body
When you pull out the Master Sword,Ganon comes back to life and flies out of the ground
>>341344791
And the game ends with the Master Sword buried in Ganondorf's skull
>>341344836
It really cheapens the ending to unflood it with no explanation.
>>341343919
>implying the Great Hippy Tree wasn't thinking about turning them into wood creatures anyway
Besides, they couldn't do shit on their own as kokiri. In OoT, they had to stay inside because no one could be bothered to prune the Deku Babas before they got huge as fuck, and Mad Scrub rape gangs ruled the streets.
>>341344925
It is, you can see the mountains from some original Zelda 1 artwork
>>341345034
>>341345050
Nobody said it had to take place immediately after Windwaker.
There's plenty of time for the sword to move around.
>>341345158
that's so awesome
I guess aonuma finally beat zelda 1
>>341338802
That'd be sick.
>>341345231
But we'd also need an explanation for why Zelda left New Hyrule
>>341325782
Between Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.
>>341344929
the gimmick for this game is called the Sheikah Slate
eyes are kind of the Sheikah's thing
>>341325782
Despite the chuchus and those wood fellows, I'm hoping it's the hero is defeated timeline. It would make the start of the game make more sense and why it's all wild life now.
>>341344670
sprouted little fi legs and walked
>>341342808
>form of the pig
now which timelines had him as a pig??
that's right, not wind wakers
>>341345373
she dies and reincarnates back on the original continent with a new link to combat a reemerging ganon
>>341341213
Ganon is the old man. Screencap this.
>>341345487
>walked
>underwater
>goddess hylia mentioned
Can't be set after Zelda 1 then, as by then Hyrule is Christian.
>>341345513
OoT has him turn into a pig and the guy in WW is the same dude.
>>341345584
no, he is a loyal follower from a sect that is trying to revive him, what you see in the trailer and castle isn't ganon, that's why he i asking for the spirit orbs
screencap THIS
>>341345584
Yeah thats the first thing I thought of too.
Dude looks too much like ganon
how can the blade rust under the sea if it was lodged in ganondorfs stone skull?
>>341338802
>First girls get triggered that they can't make Link into a girl
>Then the ultimate always has been evil was Zelda
>>341325782
>Link, wake up
>Adventure of Link is the only game where the name Link is used canonically
It's set 100 years after Zelda 2.
Link starts at the shrine of resurrection. Did he died?
>>341345050
Maybe it is explained, we don't know yet. It's not like they never did anything similar though. The whole destiny shit in SS cheapens the efforts of every character in every game a bit as well in my opinion.
Though the fact that the master sword is rusted, it being placed in a random spot in the woods (the pedestal in alttp and albw is the same as the one in the temple of time, it just gets ruined with time and surrounded by the woods as shown in TP. We see the ruins of the ToT in this game, so the sword is definetly placed in a different spot), the existance of creatures originated by the flood, the fact that the world is in ruins all point out to this being unflooded hyrule. Not saying it's 100% certain but it's the safest bet at this point.
>>341345750
metal is heavier than water anon
>>341345513
Pig mode is like Dorf's rage mode now
>>341334895
>Has the Temple of Time in a less ruined state
>Has a bridge similar to the Bridge of Eldin
>Koroks
>Parts of the map look like LoZ
Honestly hard to say. I am seriously thinking this is either pre-twilight princess, or in the same era as Zelda I and II.
Link was revived by ganondorf (old man) in the beginning of the game.
Zelda is the villian this time.
>>341345773
also
>era of decline is when Hyrule becomes Christian
jee Nintendo cut it out with the historical commentary
stream guy just said "the world's probably changed a bit, it's been a hundred years"
Idk his name sorry
>>341345925
But Zelda stories are typically written to be understood even by those who have never played one, but it's going to take a lot of time to have this premise make sense to those familiar with the lore
>>341346045
The old man is the King of Hyrule you dumb shitposter. His facial features are identical copy pasted from Wind Waker.
>>341344929
Isn't this the Magnifier thing from Oot?
Did they just avoid it due to spoilers or did the temple of time ruins have nothing interesting inside? I was getting firelink vibes from it so it was disappointing not to see it.
>>341345038
someone must have removed ganondorf.
>Dampe is the one that finds the body and removes Ganon from Ganondorf, leaving dorf mild and neutrally aligned
>>341325782
we'll have to wait for further confirmation. Koroks could easily just be a newly added race to any of the other timelines. WW timeline leaves Hyrule to form New Hyrule so any gameplay we see here assuming it's within the WW timeline would have to be set in the far future.
Ganon being an established character and not something being teased or alluded to makes me think this is the fallen timeline or the young link timeline both in their most possible futures.
>>341346213
Why? It just needs a vague introduction like WW. People who played the previous games can piece it together and people who never did will be content with the context given. In WW, it was quite inconsequential that adult link once showed up from the past to defeat ganon once and then disappeared, but people who played OoT obviously recognized him as the protagonist from that game. All this game needs to do is mention a huge cataclysm in ages past and the land starting to recover and there you go.
>hyrule has declined
>old cave hobos
this is zelda 1 timeline for sure
>>341345584
And Link is an android or a clone. Screencap this.
>>341346374
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>>341340293
looks nothing like it fucktard
>>341346171
Isn't that basically ever Zelda game. I think Wind Waker was said to be 100 years (later 100s), same with TP, Spirit Tracks and ALBW.
btw the old guy is Link from which Venom-Link is cloned.
>>341346276
>>341344929
>>341345429
The sheikah symbol is the eye. Appears on the gossip stones, built by the sheikah
The lens of truth, was believed to be made from a dead sheikah's eye.
They're all about seeing into your mind and seeing the truth and shit.
>>341346547
Like I said, the problem is Spirit Tracks.
The royal family is now living in New Hyrule which is in a far off part of the world and was last seen doing extremely well for itself. What reason would they have to return?
>>341346216
What old man? I missed the stream today
>>341327763
A lot of people apparently. Hyrule Historia sold a TON and there are a lot of dedicated sites to talking about the time line. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone agrees friendo! :3
>>341345919
Last one game over'd'. The shrine will keep pumping out Links until one of them gets it done.
>>341325782
Seems like it's really far in the future - probably way after spirit tracks which was "Hyrule's rebirth" on the timeline.
I think it's aliens.
>>341325782
Honestly, the Korok's presence in the game is a mystery in itself. We know that the Kokiri only evolved into the Korok after the great flood, which eliminates a potential prequel to WW, but then there's also the fact that the original Hyrule is flooded forever in the titles after it, eliminating this game as a potential sequel to it either. The Temple of Time never got rebuilt in the new Hyrule.
Even with this in mind, there is an odd timeline possibility from what we have in mind. This mural in TPHD clearly shows rito despite them not even existing prior to that in said timeline. What this could mean for this game is unsure, but it does prove that Aonuma can pull pretty much anything no matter which timeline it takes place in.
>tfw it's at the end of all three timelines
>>341337113
you mean the failure timeline?
>>341335714
That was my first thought too, that the Old Man is the King.
Seems kinda obvious, imo.
>>341345919
More like he's a clone.
>>341346849
>What old man?
So far the guesses are
>king of hyrule
>ganondorf
>a previous link
>the old dude from zelda 1
>>341337624
Ganon transforms into a giant monster and you have to climb up his body and hit his weak points to beat him.
>>341347102
yes, the canon timeline
>>341344296 ....
>>341335314
>Go back in time to get into the bottom of the well
>Go forward in time again and save Hyrule
>There is still a future left behind with no Link
Whenever you travel backwards in time and change something you create a new timeline, which is the only reason why a split is allowed to happen at the end of OoT in the first place. In theory there could be more than one "Hero is defeated" timelines depending on how often Link time travels, but they would all turn out effectively the same.
>>341346849
That's true, but that's just as hard to explain as to why races from wind waker, which all originated along with the flood, exist in this land. Either the reincarnation cycle is not tied to direct lineage (which would make sense since, in the failure timeline, link dies without having any heir and yet he resurrects anyway a few generations later) or they just moved back for whatever reason during the millennia (colonizing a new land that was starting to come up from the waters, for example)
>>341347172
Closer image of the old man.His nose looks almost exactly the same as the king of hyrule's.
>>341347172
It's very clearly a take on the old man from Zelda 1.
maybe itignores the timelines and draws elements from all previous games
>>341337081
Summoning his spirit maybe? Hero of time was in TP, albeit a ghostly version, but he still appeared in the over world as a golden wolf. So it's not that far fetched to think this magic wielding Link could summon a past incarnation
>>341347490
>Alone fr quite some time
Okay, I'm sold that it's connected to Wind Waker
>>341337624
I hope this thing changes as you progress in the game.
Why isn't there a timeline split from every game for when Link fails? Why just Ocarina?
>>341345429
>>341346832
but how do you think it specifically ties into the game's lore
>>341347362
Im sorry bro, have this (you)
>>341347172
HMMMM
I wonder who this shady old man could be.
>>341347482
They could easily just have the Koroks become Kokiri in the child timeline
When Rito show up I'll be more convinced
>>341347490
Holy fuck, you're right!
>>341347490
You mean from Wind Waker? But he was just a spooky ghost or some shit.
>>341347490
whoa he got a tan
really makes you think
>>341347567
That would be ideal, but I sort of doubt it. Still, it's stupid to try and guess the timeline placement with such little information, and saying it has to be one or the other because of science or geographical location is dumb when Zelda games have no problem messing with both for the sake of the game.
>>341347671
see
>>341347404
Link's "failure" is only canon when he travels back in time and leaves the future behind. There are countless timelines where Termina is destroyed for instance, but those are all likely dead ends.
>>341347172
I'm surprised people aren't saying Rauru/Kaepora Gaebora. On the stream they even compared him to "the owl" which presumably means KG and not the nameless owl.
>>341347671This game is a failure timeline for Wind Waker
>>341347793
He looks more like the king of red lions than ganon t.bh
>>341347490
the tan makes me say its ganondorf
>>341347671
I'm gunna go with the time travel aspect.
Its technically the only game that had multiple links, which is what caused the split.
Will there be a rapist in this game?
>>341347809
>implying half of the rito haven't reverted back into Zora and thus there is a long 437829407091289 year war about which is the superior race developing nuclear warheads along with super advanced tech which is why the entirety of hyrule is a baren desolate post apocalyptic world with tribes of Bokoblins running around trying to take over the place.
>>341347172
Post WW-Ganondorf whose been freed from his evil curse and now intends to do good.
The spectral Gamon is Demise's soul, looking for a new host to incarnate into.
>>341347490
His eyes though, look at them. Yellow Irises.
Seems like G to me. Also the nose looks like Ganondorf's.
Majora's timeline is best timeline with the best games
OOT > MM > TP
ye nig
>>341348190
please stop posting microagressions to perpetuate rape culture. This is 2016 for fucks sake. Stop talking about this.
>>341348232
I'd love that. It's never going to happen though. Nintendo would never even attempt a plot twist in a game like this, so ganon is going to be evil, the king of hyrule is going to be the old man, at some point you'll be getting the triforce of courage and defeat ganon restoring peace to the land
>>341347490
old man is the king. I will accept no other opinions until proven otherwise by the game or spoilers.
>>341348310
Only the child segments of OoT count. ONly Wind Waker and LttP acknowledge the good parts
after cow tits got the ice-thing-rune, she skipped a bunch of dialogue with the old man, did it say anything that could hint of where the story takes place?
>red trousers
>hair in a bun
Nintendo did it.
The old man is Ganon misdirecting you
>I trained him wrong, as a joke
>>341347172
or what if
hear me out here
what if it's just an old man
>>341347940
>>341347926
>>341347404
No.
>>341347671
Downfall timeline is the original timeline where Link was never frozen in time and faced Ganondorf younger.
Why else would Link aging be important this time but in no other game unless it was known that he'd fail using the Master Sword at that age?
ALttP's Link's wish probably made the time freeze in OoT happen.
>>341347967
>>341347490
>the nose
the long nose is more of a ganondorf thing.
king hyrule from ww had a pretty flat nose that started right at his forehead.
Ganon is the guy with the pointy nose.
see
>>341347793
>>341347926
>every time you use the song of time in MM a termina is met with a terrible fate.
What was the purpose of planting seeds in WW?
Was kt to 'grow' land or something?
Might explain the new Hyrule, with parts of it bringing the ocean floor up
For most of the trailer Link is shown wearing a verity of shirts and armors. Do you guys think the classic green tunic will be absent?
>>341348519
His talk was just vague stuff about ancient sheikah magic.
>>341348495
Look at the fucking nose the guy has.
It's ganondorf.
King of hyrule has a flat boxer nose, ganondorf has the jew nose.
>ancient sea
Are people really debating this? It's pretty much confirmed to be sometime after A Link Between Worlds, likely after Zelda II.
Source:it's not confirmed at all, I deceived you.
>>341348750
Anouma just noted it in stream, didn't say anything more.
It well will be though.
>>341348750
It will be the best outfit in the game.
>>341348750
Course not.
It will probably be mid to late game gear, possibly the best obtainable gear along with the hylian shield.
Unless they involve it in the plot in which case you'll get it earlier.
>>341348829
>ancient sea
WW TIMELINE CONFIRMED
>>341348430
It's can't be rape when you look this good, Anon.
>>341348829
Netherlands fucking confirmed.
>>341348829
>salt
Oh fuck, it really is
>>341325782
>people on /v/ take Hyrule Historia seriously
>>341344929
>>341346832
>>341347762
That's the eye of hylia. One of the sheikah old dudes in the shrines hints it.
>>341341705
Could be, maybe they all adopted human forms to accommodate Link in OoT.
My prediction: Old man is Ganondorf after aging on his own for decades/centuries/millenia and somehow has become wiser and watched as old hyrule fell and nature took over the kingdom.
He sees Link come out of the resurrection chamber (which oddly enough reminded me more of the DOOM intro, sans Rip and Tear) and realizes something is affoot.
Turns oit in the end Link has a choice and can side with Ganondorf to protect the natural world or side with Zelda and ressurrect a fallen empire. Siding with one makes the other the final big bad villain.
Yes I did just suggest Zelda could be a villain in this game.
>>341349108
Why wouldn't they friendo? :3
Awoo~~
>>341349108
It's fun
>>341348675
>>341348301
I think his appearance could go either way, really. Even the shape of the beard is more reminiscent of the king, but the eyes and skin tone (assuming the fire's reflection hasn't totally warped it) are closer to Ganon.
>>341349170
>eye of hylia
>>341348829
WW CONFIRMED
>>341349108
The murals in TPHD just plain shat on the timeline because they featured rito in a timeline in which they never even existed according to Hyrule Historia. And that was a recent and intentional addition to the game.
>>341348829
chapter 3 confirmed
we did it /mgg/!
>>341348815
Old man's forehead is also covered by that hood. If it's Ganon, he's gonna have a sick scar there.
Come to think of it, Ganon always has a gem or something to cover his forehead with.
>>341325782
That bridge looks like Eldin Bridge in the trailer.
>>341349342
Yeah, the sheikah symbol seems to signify that, as one of those zombie elders said.
>Ganondorf is actually a good guy now, intent on helping you
>this Link is likely either a clone or an android, not the real Link. The real Link might've died
>for all we know, Zelda is the villain this time around
>setting is flat-out post-apocalyptic taking place in the distant past or future with remnants of sci-fi and potential ayy technology
Why do I have a strange feeling that this'll be the deepest and darkest Zelda since MM?
>bunch of eerie abandoned villages in the beginning with zero peoe in sight
>>341349356
I haven't played tphd yet, care to expand on that? Sounds like a goof
>>341348630
The reason why it's important is because at the end of OoT, Link goes back in time to when he was a child and has Ganondorf sealed away. That left one timeline with Ganondorf defeated (no Link), and one timeline with Ganondorf sealed away (with child Link).
>>341347172SQUADDALA
>>341348190
You, the player, force Link against his will.
You are the rapist.
>>341348829
>>341348979
holy shit it's true. the koroks, the rito, all of it.
>>341349480
but what is this eye of hylia, a reliq?
>>341349604
It's so dense, every frame, there's so much going on
>>341325782
Considering the stasis powers and weird shit all over, maybe it takes place in a time anomaly/failed timeline that doesn't particularly fits anywhere
>>341349338
....What if the King and Ganondorf are siblings? Convoluted yes, but not impossible if they were identical twins.
>>341349019
please stop posting about this. I have personally been raped I don't enjoy thinking about it. Please stop please. This is starting to give me panic attacks.
>>341325782
http://zelda.wikia.com/wiki/Elma
LAZY
>>341349439
Demise also had a sick scar exactly where the sword hit ganondorf in wind waker.
Considering the fact that skywward sword was all about time travel bullshit and you fight demise in a endless ocean stage chances are the zelda timeline even loops at some point.
>>341348829
>we're getting more Rito qts
>>341349540
The mural is shown here >>341347092
They added that mural to the HD version of TP for some reason. It wasn't in the original version and was a deliberate addition since the original version counterpart didn't look anything like that. It literally makes zero sense within the timeline established in Hyrule Historia.
>>341349923
Was that not to do with his first death/imprisonment with that spire thing?
>>341337624
Malladus and Ganon
>>341349831
>BotW ends up unifying the timeline again
whoa
>>341349524
the peoe were taken out of the E3 build to prevent storie spoilers
>>341349910
Could be the same character
>>341349857
Impossible, a gerudo man is born every 100 years
>>341349992
Where was it, though? If it was in Temple of Time, it makes sense because that dungeon doesn't make sense.
>>341347092
Is this mural depicting all three timelines?
Well it is the 30th anniversary, so they could put cameos of past zelda characters in. If it is after Wind Waker, expect Byrne to return.
>>341349992
>showing zoras together with ritos
triggered t͏͏b͏͏h͏
>>341349637
Hylia was the first goddess, and appeared in Skyward Sword for the first time.
"Eye of hylia" seems to be some kind of metaphor for the sheikah's to build a symbol around.
>>341349524
>Link was asleep for 100 years
>During this time another Link was born
>This Link had no one to fight because Ganondorf was sealed, eventually grew uneasy
>Somehow became evil, wiped out the kingdom rather than taking it over like Ganondorf would
>Killed Zelda and took the Triforce of Wisdom
>Old Link has to team up with Ganondorf to fight Link
>It's the end of the world
>>341350050
Dude, zelda timeline is so convoluted at this point, who knows how demise got there in the first place.
After all time travel is a reoccuring element in zelda now. Ganondorf had the master sword in his head and all the time of the world, the temple of time was right next to him.
Who knows what happened.
Even demise's robe looks sorta like wind waker ganondorf's robe
>>341349857
Siblings or half siblings, maybe. Twins are probably impossible because of the male gerudo thing.Unless the king didn't count as a gerudo because he looks hylian?
>>341350198
what if Ganondorf was just a really butch woman all along
>the hairpieces
>the painted nails
>the earrings
>every other member of "his" race is woman
this is the biggest conspiracy in Hyrule's history
I swear that temple is the mouth of the Great Deku Tree. That one with the shiekah symbol.
>>341345919
its pretty obvious that his body was reconstructed. i dont get why people think the whole "wake up" part is literal. hes a clone.
>>341350308
It's in the corridor right in front of Hyrule Castle, between Hyrule Castle Town Square. It's all over the place in that area, hard to miss.
>>341350542
I doubt gerudo and hylians can even reproduce. They are different species, it would be like a giraffe fucking a rhyno
>>341350409
but the eye has been around since forever, and in skyward sword as you say. I was just curious of the focus around it in this specific game
>>341329010
I hope so, Rito best race.
>>341349992
Where is this mural located in game?
>botw is the zelda game to finally disregard all that shit that happened since the 90s and just be a direct sequel to zelda 1
yes please
>>341347490
ITS KAEPORA
>>341349990
Hopefully we can pick them up and throw them into walls.Or stop time on them, whack em with a hammer a few times and send em back home
This Link is the Hero of Time who died in the final battle with Ganon in OoT and the sages put his body in a stasis into the chamber of ressurection so he could be revived sometime in the declined world and redeem himself
What if this is the fallen timeline and Zelda placed links body in the recovery chamber to defeat ganon in the distant future.
>>341347490
SQUADALA WE'RE OFF
>>341350805
It's stated Gerudo go to the Hylian market to get husbands, and considering they have kids despite being all women they presumably can.
>>341351026
Since this is the WW timeline this is plausible
>>341348829
>ancient sea
Great Sea or Lanayru Desert,
>>341335714
>Implying it's not Hyrule King Ganondorf, after he successfully killed OoT Link and unleashed the Ganon Calamity upon the land, forever cursed to walk the land until the hero is reborn and rights his wrongs
HOW DOES THE WAND OF GAMELON PLAY INTO ALL OF THIS?
>>341349992
I think its a sequel to TP, if I remember when they announced TPHD they said it would have some connection with BotW also the large bridge in the trailer is likely the bridge of elden and the temple of time does exist in ruins in that timeline. Likely the Koraks are a nod to WW and still could be a possibility in that timeline as we haven't seen kokiri since OoT and they could have just evolved that way naturally.
>>341351067
>white boy hylians cucking bbc rhyno dick ganondorf out of wives
truly a fantasy world
>>341350921
>no own features
no
>>341325782
game takes place in the child timeline confirmed.
centuries after twilight
Obviously before windwaker you stupid fuckers
>>341350662
Or some kind of sophisticated android/synth-like entity, king of like Ghirahim or Fi.
Didn't Ainuma make us second-doubt in 2014 by implying that they never said he's Link in the first place?
Now I look back on it, I think he meant it literally. The Link we play as is a fake or a copy, possibly created for nefarious reasons
>>341351302
Gamelon is the key to all of this
>>341351474
>obviously before the land was flooded
Yeah no >>341348829
>>341351474
Literally the least possible timeline placement of the game. At least post WW has some kind of plausibility with the presence of the koroks and sea salt.
>>341351551
>The Link we play as is a fake or a copy
Oh shit, Megaman Zero 3 vibes.
>>341351551
That's why the old man is ganondorf.
>>341350198
Though not impossible if that one embryo cell divides in such a way they become identical twins.
Improbable, but not impossible.
>>341351474
There was no hero before WW though. That's why the sages flooded Hyrule.
>>341351474
You don't fucking know that.
>>341351551
KOJIMAAAA
>>341351551
>Didn't Ainuma make us second-doubt in 2014 by implying that they never said he's Link in the first place?
If I remember correctly a day later he retracted it confirming that it was Link because it was a joke and people took it too seriously.
Did anybody notice the deceased Great Deku Tree outside that temple?
I believe the old man is Ganondorf. His skin tone and his nose aside, the reason he cannot be the King of Red Lions is that the King drowned.
He didn't transform into a boat to save himself, he wasn't wrapped in a bubble like Link and Zelda were. He just stood there and disappeared in the flood as the water crashed down upon him, dying along with what was left of his kindgom. He didn't speak another word when the water came, either. He drowned.
Meanwhile, Ganondorf was locked in stone and is generally more immortal and powerful. He might have awakened one day, after the water had long receded, and began wandering the long-lost Hyrule that had now resurfaced.
I would also like to point out how WW Gandondorf longs for the winds that stroked the green of old Hyrule, and the name of this game is BREATH of the Wild.
>>341351063
GREAT, I'LL GRAB MY STUFF!
>>341351920
post pic
>>341351725
>the the final boss is the real Link
>artificial vs real
>man vs machine
>technology vs nature theme
>>341351361
Dude, imagine how fucking sore G's dick must be after a day of trying to repopulate his amazon race. There's no time or stamina left for conquering shit after having to knock up like a hundred cock-starved women.
>>341352037
>Cannonball plays
>Groose out of fucking nowhere.
I really hope the final game looks this colorful.
>>341339428
Uncursed Dorf: A King Without a Pig
>>341351962
The temple entrance looks similar to the mouth of the deku tree.
>>341351361
GERUDOD.COM
>>341352037
We be Dark Link now.
>>341349543
What is the antecedent of "it's" in your post?
>>341349356
>>341349540
Zelda theory bullshit time?
It could be a simple easter egg, but it does seem to have significance.
One assumption you could start with is that each panel shows a subsequent period in time.
The Goron and the Triforce could represent a pre-SS time, the gorons being made of rock and probably the oldest race. It would explain why the Triforce is there. Link might represent humans, smaller than the Goddess. And the tall man could be Demise.
The last panel shows a time closest to TP, with TP Zora and the Oocca.
So then the "Rito" panel would be somewhere between SS and TP. It could be showing a time when the surface kingdom and sky people still had a connection (as the dominion rod and TP lore describe). If I wasn't so fond of the idea that the tadtones become the Zora, it could be that the Zora and Oocca have a common ancestor in the sky citizens. The sky folk would either be the people that remained on skyloft, their loftwings, or some fusion of the two.
Now I don't really like the common ancestor idea I'm putting forth because then the Goron panel is unrelated to the 'evolution' idea, but since the Zora got turned into the Rito somehow it could be that the bird form was just dormant in their DNA like how you can make chickens grow teeth and scales.
At the very least, it does make it seem like the Oocca once looked like Ritos.
>>341350853
I don't think it means further than that metaphore, but who knows.
>>341352372
Well fuck.
And Dark Link travels between timelines too.
The current clues from the demo are all over the place in terms of the timeline.
The. There are those impossible timeline hieroglyphs in the temple of time for TP....
>>341352431
I like this theory so I'm going to pretend it's the official canon from now on, thanks anon
>>341350309
Downfall doesn't have Gorons proper, does it?
>>341351941
Ganon's wish being also his personal purgotory/hell for being nigh immortal.
>>341352431
>Why else would Link aging be important
>>341347256
That's what they wanted to do for the OoT Ganon fight.
With these climbing mechanics, it's definitely happening.
>>341352230
Did you not see the stream
It won't. The grass visibility radius is really small compared to that, for example.
>>341352614
>And Dark Link travels between timelines too.
Wait what?
Maybe this Link is an artificial creature created by the people of pre-flood Hyrule to fight Ganondorf in the Adult timeline. They might not have been able to finish him in time before Hyrule was sealed away under the sea, so he was lost and forgotten.
Now, many thousand years later, he is finally activated/given life to stave off a wholly different evil.
>>341351941
The King of Red Lions might not be "alive" enough to drown, though. He isn't as powerful as Ganondorf, but we've seen him do weird shit like posses a boat for 90% of the game- he's a spiritual being, like the sages, not a physical one.
I'm pretty sure this is in the Failure Timeline. Between the constant references they keep making to the original Zelda - specifically that both games share a "ruined Hyrule" - and that something like this doesn't really fit in with any other place in the timeline, it seems to make the most sense. It doesn't make sense that it takes place after WW, given how that game ended and what we know Link and Tetra did afterwards. The trailer for this game shows the Master Sword in the Sacred Grove (as it is in the Failure and Child timelines): how did it get there from Ganon's skull? It wasn't even in the Sacred Grove in WW anyway. And why would Link and Zelda's descendants abandon their new kingdom and go back to chill in the ruins of the old one, even if it did dry up?
The Korok are a bit of a head-scratcher, but we never saw what became of the Kokiri in the Failure Timeline, so it's possible they took the same form as they did in the Adult TImeline. We see a pictures of Makar in A Link Between Worlds, but most people dismissed that as a reference that didn't mean anything. Maybe there've been Korok in the Failure Timeline this whole time?
>>341340708
Who says they do? Maybe only their old tech remains. Or maybe they put themselves in stasis pods
>>341348829
holy shit dude, post-ww?
also this got me thinking, will this game have underwater exploration?
>>341352959
Well, we see him PPP up throughout the timeline, assuming it's the same entity.
>>341345584
The old man is your father and at the end of the game you either side with him and nuke hyrule, or kill him.
Screencap this.
>>341325782
At least 100 years in the future.
Everyone forgets the Lanayru Desert was once an ocean.
>>341334895
Pretty sure the floating-plant niggas confirm it's after WW, but the lack of any major buildings/infrastructure would put it before spirit tracks. Then again, they purposely excluded that from the demo, but even the name suggests that nature is the focal point of this title, which is awesome. I'm already chuffed from what I saw today, can't wait to see more.
>>341341031
Orange it's not old OG Hyrule but old Spirit Tracks Hyrule
>>341352431
>At the very least, it does make it seem like the Oocca once looked like Ritos.
They certainly did in the concept art
>>341353215
Water Temple senpai.
>>341352872
Okay another way to phrase it is, why would they know to freeze Link when every other time his age does not matter to when he gets the sword? You explained why it's important to the series lore after the fact of it happening in game, I mean how does Rauru know Link needs to be frozen?
The downfall timeline being an original time helps "the hero fails" make more sense.
I guess I just don't really understand what your post was trying say.
>>341325782
I have to be honest, this was the most exciting thing about BOW for me!
>>341345906
Why are you bringing up girls at all? Sounds like it was them triggered you.
>>341351941
>I would also like to point out how WW Gandondorf longs for the winds that stroked the green of old Hyrule, and the name of this game is BREATH of the Wild.
All bs aside. That was my feeling while playing WW constantly.
I LONGED FOR THE GREEN OF OLD HYRULE.
I'm so glad breath of the wild is finally closing that flooded hyrule chapter.
>>341352230
It will look a lot more blue due to the draw distance, but there's nothing your TV cannot do. Xenoblade X looked too grey without some TV settings tweaks
>>341351063
THE BIRDS ARESTONED, ISN"T IT BEAUTIFUL
>>341353083
>how did it get there from Ganon's skull?
He put it back.
WW Ganondorf was a pretty chill dude anyhow.
Seems like he got over his bad side and became a cave hobo dishing out advice to link.
>>341352230
Maybe on NX, but I doubt it.
>>341353215
Did we see any indication of oceans/new lakes in the demo gameplay? I was looking off into the distance but the level of detail was absolute shit.
>>341353626
>play WW
>first see the splendour of sunken Hyrule
>lush green as far as the eye can see
>land stretching beyond the horizon
>really wish I could explore mroe of it than just the small stretch between the temple and Ganon's tower
They made that wish come true after all these years. ;_;
Whats the lifespan of a korok?
>>341353083
The Deku Tree can transform the Kokiri to Koroks if he damn well pleases.
Reminder that Kokiri only appeared in OoT, they haven't been established further timeline except Adult, as Koroks
>>341337228
This. Only lame part about the game.
>>341353949
There is actually desert outside of Ganon's tower if you break beyond the boundary.
>>341353945
I think there was a boat segment, but I missed it.
>>341353949
I stopped playing the game for a few years after I learned you cant de-flood hyrule in the game.
It annoyed me too much. Well and in the end of the game you flood fucking hyrule. It felt like a slap in the face.
And then came TP with it's weird overworld and skyward sword with no overworld.
I'm so glad botw is finally giving me that overworld I wanted for 12 years now.
>>341353949
I really wonder if sunken hyrule was the original plan and they had to rush the game and decided to just put a giant empty ocean on top of it and keep the assets they already had in place.
Because for a simple skboy it looked to well crafted.
>>34135335
>desert
>grassland
>>341353558
I think that in every game before OoT, provided it was stated somewhere, Link was always 16 or 17. OoT was the first time there was ever a playable child Link.
>>341354149
Welp.
I just looked up a video of someone going OOB it and most of the area is a lake surrounded by mountains anyway, but it still looked so vast and lush when I was younger.
>>341353083
After this
>>341348829
I really think it's connected to Wind Waker
What I want to know is where the fuck is civilization?
Is the world totally wasted? Are there just no people in the starting zone? Will we make settlements and reclaim the world like in ActRaiser?
Retarded Idea hereWhat if the game takes place at the same time as wind waker in old hyrule, and that's why everything is so abandoned and ruined
>>341353949
It was so weird how Ganon's tower was just outside the castle's main entrance. On the only road out of the castle, at that.
>>341354346
No way, way to simple geometry
>>341354346
>skboy
meant to write skybox.
Also the only parts I enjoyed about wind waker were the parts in OG hyrule.
Pissed me off so much when they walled it off from you.
FUCK, MY DAD THREW MY TV TO THE FLOOR AND BROKE IT BECAUSE I WASN'T PAYING ATTENTION TO HIM SINCE THE STREAM WAS SO HYPE
GOD FUCKING DAMMIT PLEASE TELL ME THIS HAS OFF-TV PLAY
>>341354662
WW and TP HD did. Why not?
>>341354662
My sides.
The demos they are showing have nothing but the controls on the gamepad, so who knows.
>>341353371
sup britbong
>>341353371
>but the lack of any major buildings/infrastructure would put it before spirit tracks.
That would be impossible given spirit tracks is 100 years after wind waker and this link has apparently been sleeping for a thousand years.
>>341354961
Sleeping? Try again.
He wakes up in a resurrection chamber.
>>341354428
Link is a kid in the first one and then he's 16 in 2.
>>341354428
But then you have games like WW where Link gets to use the sword as a child.
>>341354609
WW actually had very complex geometry for some areas of Old Hyrule that you can't fully see in game. There's even some cave entrances and stuff.
https://tcrf.net/The_Legend_of_Zelda:_The_Wind_Waker/Hidden_Level_Features
>>341325782
I'm in love with the art direction.
>Fi is resting dreaming of her adventures with Link since SS and been through three different timelines.
>>341355205
oops meant to say 100 and wait....what? What even is this game's lore
>It's not from the MM timeline
>It's not TP related
>It's not even OG LoZ related
It's fucking WW
Lame as fuck, least the gameplay and rito's will be cool.
>>341349338
>trapped underwater they merged into one being
>not a force for evil
>not a force for good
>he simply waits, and guides, and watches
>the world may have ended, but he will never die
>>341325782
It's clearly related to Skyward Sword since the enemies have the same design.
>>341355206
>>341355249
Well then I guess they thought he'd get offed by Ganondorf if they hadn't sealed him away until he was older. That wouldn't cause a timeline split though.
>>341356005
And the overall magitech theme. And the Sheikah designs.
>>341355613
WHO GIVES A SHIT NIGGA
GET READY FOR SHIELD SURFAN
ZA WARUDAN
EXPLORAN
GLIDAN
SHRINE SEARCHAN
SHIVERAN
>>341349857
Except Ganondorf is literally the only male born Gerudo in a hundred years so that makes no sense
>>341356005
Well all Zelda games are related to Skyward Sword, but the creature in the OP is a Korok, who only exist in the Wind Waker timeline.
I'm not sure what to feel about the trailer I saw. It feels like it tried to emulate every other open world game, and in most of them, the open world part is shit.
The effort required to make each and every part interesting is gargantuan in a game world of that size so it's almost always fucking nothing. Which is why I prefer smaller worlds where each level is incredibly detailed. I hope I'm wrong with this.
Why do people talk shit about the Zelda timeline? I think it's really awesome how fans were able to connect together each of the games well enough that Nintendo actually made it canon.
For the 100th time,
>It's comfirmed towns and villages will be in the game. They are not in the e3 demo because, of reasons.
>Shrines =\= dungeons. Dungeons will also be in the game, and can be completed in any order.
That said, I think this will be a retelling of Zelda 1. They continously discussed the elements they borrowed from the first game. They wanted Link to view Hyrule from a clifftop like in the pic, and someone even mentioned that you can see the same twin peaks that are in the artwork. Also, I think the large black structure with the swirling red aura is Ganon's Castle.
>>341332687
His dick would get sliced in half at the first thrust into her sword pussy.
>>341356353
The open world segment alone was about a million more times more interesting than ANYTHING in fucking Dark Souls you pretentious faggot.
I really wish Soulsfags would leave.
>>341345773
Is this the Sheikah Slate?
>>341340209
>instead of adapting to salt water, Zoras grew wings
epic
>>341356353
I'm still waiting on dungeons before I write it off.
>>341356658
it was divine intervention, senpai
>>341353376
Then how do you explain OoT temple of time right there?
>>341335314
All games are canon, that's the point of retconning and having alternate timelines.
There is no one true timeline, and if there is one, it's certainly not the original one, labeled "failure timeline"
>>341356074
Right, but what I'm saying is that ALttP's Link's wish undid Ganondorf's taking over of the Sacred Realm, which doesn't happen in either the Childhood or Adult timelines, by changing something that'd have that Link not fall in battle i.e. making him an adult before he fights Ganondorf. It's not that Link dying as a kid using the Master Sword creates a timeline split.
>>341356663
This.
The lack of dungeons is making me nervous. I liked WW the least because of the shitty and few dungeons.
>>341355426
>This Link is an artificial being.
>Link gets the Master Sword.
>It chimes.
>"You...you are...Master Link?"
>"..."
>"No, you are not."
>"..."
>"I see..."
>"You and I are similar beings..."
SHIRTLESS LINK FANART
W H E N
H
E
N
The voice in the E3 demo tells Link that he's been sleeping for a century, while the Old Man tells him that Hyrule Castle has acted as a seal for "Calamity Ganon" for the same amount of time. The Old Man seems to know that Link is the hero, the voice strongly implies it, while the Sheikah monks outright say it: I really don't think we're looking at a "fake Link" here. He was probably somehow involved with Calamity Ganon's defeat a century prior, and was put in-stasis to return when they predicted Ganon would regain his power. Maybe he was mortally wounded or killed or whatever, but he's still the actual chosen hero. Being a 'clone Link' is so out of the scope of anything we've seen before in Zelda and doesn't really make sense, while being the re-animated corpse of the Hero of Time similarly makes no sense and contradicts a lot, especially considering he doesn't have the right hair or hand-dominance to be the HoT.
I don't think the Old Man is Ganon, either. Skin and eye color aside, he's way too short and his facial features are too soft and rounded: Ganon's always been very angular with well-defined features. I wouldn't be surprised if he's Gerudo, but I don't see him being Ganondorf himself.
Four swords returning when?
>>341339928
>>341356658
Goddesses had to keep them away from Old Hyrule at the bottom of the ocean.
>>341356658
At least that one made fucking sense.
WHY DID THE KOKIRI TURN INTO FUCKING TREES?!
Better yet! Why the fuck did the gorons, who were arguably the least suited to ocean life, not change at all?
>>341325782
>game begins in a room called "the resurrection chamber"
there's no way that it could be anything other than the decline timeline.
>>341356628
I like Souls and Zelda and I feel the same way. My expectations are low but I hope Nintendo of all developers can pull it off.
>>341357056
Much as I hate Fi, if the Master Sword just spoke to you in cryptic little sentences like that, hinting at lore, that would be boss as fuck.
>>341357098
>fighting the final boss shirtless
It'll be so awesome.
>>341357045
You niggers are pathetic.
No matter how many fuckign time it's said there are fuckign dungeons, you keep your dumb shitposting stance going.
Fucking disgusting
>>341357045
They said there are proper dungeons in addition to shrines.
>>341334895
If there is a timeline for if OoT Link loses, then shouldn't there be a branch for the possibility of any of the other Links losing?
>>341356353
>It feels like it tried to emulate every other open world game
The only open world game that's even remotely similar to this demo is Witcher 3, which was a fucking fantastic open world game, and even IT lacked some of the things that were present here (like cooking, weather effects, more interesting combat, etc.).
Your post is terrible because you're making the same argument that most shitposters on /v/ make about open worlds where they just regurgitate the same buzzwords about "muh emptiness" and "waaah it's like every other open world" without actually explaining their reasoning behind those statements.
>>341357345
The same shit keeps getting posted.
>"Haha no dungeons!"
>There are dungeons.
>"STILL CAN'T COMPETE WITH PS4 GRAPHICS!"
>"Haha no towns!"
>There are towns.
>"LALALALALA NO TOWNS LALALALA!"
I think its obvious that this takes place far after Wind Waker as it makes sense that the Hylians would have sealed themselves away in stasis to wait out the flood.
The game takes place in old Hyrule separate from the New Hyrule founded by the Link from Wind Waker.
>>341356628
Souls has nothing to do with this, fag. That webm was literally a random one picked from a folder. Fuck off with your victim complex or whatever it was that gets you all butthurt.
The open world I saw looked like every other one I've seen before, with a sliver of interesting things here and there.
>>341356663
Yeah, definitely. I'm not saying it's shit. It's just that I'm always wary about open world games.
>>341325782
Because the graphics don't look shitty like they do in TP.
Ok, seriously though, the cell shading looks nice. If I had a WiiU I'd get it. Maybe the NX. Maybe.
>>341357130
Your post reminded of that statue in TWW.
>>341357185
Kokiri were always forst spirits, them looking like Hylians was for child Link's benefit.
Their korok forms let them soar on the winds like leaves, seeds, and pollen can. Seems pretty useful to me. I mean Goron are rocks, Zoras are fish, doesn't it make sense for the forest creatures/spirits to be something more woodland related than Hylian children?
Gorons didn't change because their deity didn't change them. There's actually a lot of mystery with WW gorons. Did Valoo tell them to fuck off? Did they leave on their own to search out larger landmasses?
>>341357185
because the gorons live in mountains
when the ocean flooded, the gorons were already safe.
goddess told the zoras to get the fuck out of oceans and changed them into birds
the kokiri are fae so who gives a fuck
>>341357130
Calamity Ganon is the coolest fucking name
>>341357345
>>341357487
I never said there weren't. I just wanna see them.
Shrines look like a nice timewaster, but dungeons need to be the next level.
I also wanna know how key items work. I'm sure Link won't be forced to fight the final boss with a rusty sword and a bow made out of a fallen branch
>>341325782
It's another Split in the Timeline:
At the end of Wind Waker, when the King touches the Triforce, the results are Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.
But if Ganondorf succeeds and touches the Triforce, resulting in resurfacing Hyrule, Breath of the Wild happens.
So like how the Hero of Time was either successful or defeated, now the Hero of Winds was either successful or defeated.
>>341357861
>them looking like Hylians was for child Link's benefit.
This angle makes no fucking sense. Why make the kokiri look like hylians for Link's comfort if you're just going to make him a fairyless pariah anyway? Seriously stop with this shit it's totally baseless.
>>341358129
Probably gonna be the classical Master sword hunt.
I'd assume the MS would be indestructible, but like in a lot of other zelda game not the strongest ( Biggoron, Fairy, Gilded, etc etc.)
They also showed that weapon can have modifier that increases stats liek damage, so i suspect there's gonna be a way to add those, probably some blacksmiths character
>>341358210
The only problem with that theory is that the Hero of Winds is blond. This Link is brown haired.
>>341357629
I'm not sure how many details you want. Emptiness is a valid argument given that there is little point to a big world if it has nothing interesting in it. Adding "muh" to a word doesn't somehow make something not an argument. I saw plenty of open space, and there was nothing of particular interest in it. That's all there is to it. If that is not a valid argument for you, be my guest and enjoy it.
I even said that it feels like it tried to emulate other open world games, I'm not immediately writing it off or saying the game will be bad. That was simply the impression I got, and I'm not going to shit on a game from a 3 minute video.
>>341358210
furthermore, Old Man = King of Hyrule
>>341357603
OoT is the only one that deals with different timelines created by time travel. What you're talking about is infinite different universes where Link coulda lost, Link coulda been the bad guy, etc.You make a decent point, I have no clue what the fuck I'm talking about.
>>341327527
Ganon did nothing wrong. He won't be the villain.
Ganon = old man you meet in the beginning.
>>341358563
What?
>>341358641
>No Xeno
>No DLC
>RP
Fucking apply yourself, man.
>>341350459
TRIGGER WARNING
>>341358563
but that's irrelevant. This Link doesn't need to be a descendant. Hell, of all the Links in any Zeldas, this one is the most derivative.
Link in BotW has also been asleep for over a century. Perhaps even asleep while Hyrule was still underwater, and therefore awake during Ganon breaking his seal.
>>341358407
Nice internet exaggeration there anon.
Link gets a fairy. The idea that Kokiri look like Hylian children for Link's benefit isn't "baseless." It isn't confirmed canon by anything in game, but that's usually how Zelda lore works anon. 70% is conjecture and head canon/fan fiction. You can not like my ideas, but that doesn't mean I'm making them up out of nothing.
Do you have an explanation for why they look like Hylian children?
>>341338331
are you 4?
>visiblevagina bones
Could they pander any harder?
>>341357603
I wholeheartedly agree, and barely anyone else on this planet does.
We are two of soul.
>>341328054
Me too.
Then I remember BoF6
And the pain come back.Please make it stop
>>341359079
>70% is conjecture and head canon/fan fiction
>doesn't mean I'm making them up out of nothing.
I'm not even who you're talking to, but shit, son.
>>341358210
No time travel, no split.
Why the fuck is this so hard?
>>341358601
I watched the entire Treehouse presentation and every part of the map was dotted with items and enemies. There was a lot of open space but very little of it was "empty". Honestly, how is that not utilized space? What in the literal fuck were you expecting?
The emptiness argument is not even an argument at this point, it's nothing more than a buzzword frequently spouted by shitposters trying to sound clever.
>>341358936
there is xeno, right to cooking mama
>>341357301
>Fighting the final boss shirtless and with your fists
Feels as good as this.
>>341357045
>Earth Temple
>Shitty dungeon
>>341352230
Maybe on NX
>hole on the mountain
I just noticed the gamepad screen is unused.
Was Miyamoto so focused on Star Fox Zero that he forgot to tell Aonuma that having a quick menu like TP HD and WW HD is a good thing?
The game takes place after Wind Waker but before Skyward Sword. The Zelda timeline is just one big loop.
>>341359503
I only saw the 3 trailer, didn't know there was a bigger video. If it is how you say, that's great.
>>341359468
what's eh?
A split can happen anywhere, anytime, in any universe. Anakin could've not chopped Mace Windu's hand off and Mace would've been the chosen one after all. Actions have consequences.
>>341359607
>Escort dungeon
>"Use windwaker 100000 times" dungeon
>THAT MIRROR PUZZLE dungeon
>>341359685
Well we have robots with giant anime lasers. Not a stretch to speculate that's where it came from.
>>341359546
I stand corrected, but you have to admit that it blended in a bit.
>>341358601
>I'm not sure how many details you want
Not that anon but I could say the same thing to you. What exactly did you want from the open world part of the demo? The plateau was filled with all sorts of stuff. It's like there's no pleasing you people.
>>341359846
Meant "3 minutes trailer".
>>341359079
>Do you have an explanation for why they look like Hylian children?
I don't need to have one and don't wish to present one, it's just a fact that they do.
I don't know how much of OoT you remember but Saria is the only Kokiri Link is close to and him not having a fairy and being weird for it is a plot point. "Pariah" is not "internet exaggeration" and you can't disregard what I say with bullshit like that.
Your theory is a crock of shite and apparently you know it yourself so I don't know why you're bothering.
>>341359718
It's almost 100% guaranteed that it'll be the same as WWHD and TPHD.
>>341359825
It fucking might as well be, lest we get some cybernetic dystopian bullshit 30 years from now.
>>341325782
WW left us with a Ganondorf turned to stone and a Master Sword used as a seal so how can it be?
>>341358563
Zelda2Link confirmed
>>341359928
I only watched the trailer, I'm looking for the demo now.
>>341359858
>A split can happen anywhere, anytime, in any universe
There are universes where any possibility happens, but that doesn't mean that they "split" from each other, right? Aren't they just independent from each other?
>>341342168
>Ganon rampages across the coutryside
>you meet an aging old man named 'dorf who tells you cool stories and teaches you how to beat Ganon
>final boss is "surprising" twist where 'dorf steals Ganon's power to become the ultimate being
>no one cares about the final boss fight but we spend the next ten years analyzing everything old man 'dorf says in his stories
>>341360073
Ganon won, Hero of Winds lost.
Ganon, being the honorable monarch he has become, lays the sword to rest, to rot and rust.
Breath of the Wild begins in the Hyrule Ganon resurrected.
>>341360184
splitting from each other is the actual act of becoming independent from each other.
split's the verb, independence is the state.
>>341360594
I guess I'll just have to take your word for it, I have no clue how infinity or any of that type of shit works.
>>341354662
It is confirmed yeah
Sorry to hear that anon
>>341337624
I'm looking forward to fighting ganon instead of ganondorf again
>>341359858
That's not how Zelda's time splits work though.
So does this mean that zelda games are going to pay better respect to lore now? Because up until they decided to link the games together arbitrarily to appease fanboys the only lore has been between sequels (zelda 1 and 2, OoT and MM, Wind waker and phantom hourglass etc.)
>>341359197
Yes. His pants could be way more hip-huggy than they are.
>>341344670
Here's my theory.
Let's assume it's the WW timeline.
And you are playing in the old Hyrule unflooded.
When the world unflooded, people obvious went to see what was down there.
Of course, a fuck ton of years passed, so the technology evolved and they had robots and shits.
And a new hyrule was created with said technology.
But when they were working on the vestige of old Hyrume,they then discovered Dorf as a statue with the Master sword in its head.
Some idiot decide to pick up the sword which free Dorf.
A shit ton of things happens, Dorf destroy everything, but the lineage of link died age ago.
Then some sages hide the master sword from Ganon in the sacred forest.
Then with the help of their technology they create a clone of old link (dunno which one tho) with the ADN of Link on the master sword.
Which is why he wake up in that strange futurist cave.
>>341356493
Glad to read this.
this was a nice thread
>>341325782
It occurs approximately 30 centuries after the events of Wind Waker.
After Link and Tetra left the old Hyrule to find a new one, the Koroks followed through with their responsibility to revive the "old" Hyrule.
As the centuries pass, descendants of all the islanders who resided within the Great Sea develop their own history as the newly revived Hyrule regains prominence once again. The Sheikah also develop new technology to help sustain and protect Hyrule.
However, one century before the start of BotW, the evil power once sealed away by the Hero of Winds resurfaces as the Master Sword's power weakens over time. This power, known as Calamity Ganon, attempts to take over Hyrule and eventually succeeds, taking over Hyrule Castle and the Sheikah's technology. The hero of this game is put into a century-long stasis by the Sheikah in order to escape the destruction that Calamity Ganon wrought.
Cue the beginning of the game, in which Link awakens once again to stop Calamity Ganon and save Hyrule.
Screenshot this post.
>>341361291
then educate me. how do splits in the zeldaverse stand out from basic chaos theory?
>>341359197
Those are pelvic bones and literally everyone has them
>>341359870
THAT MIRROR PUZZLE dungeon was literally 25% of the whole place.
I hated that dung.
Synthetic Link created with ancient technology for the sole purpose of saving a Hyrule that doesn't have its own Link.
>>341359197
So Link can have vagina bones but that slut from #FE can't
>>341361869
>only time travel creates split timelines in this game series
>BUT CHAOS THEORY
This will go nowhere.
>>341361637
>there are no Hero's clothes because the Hero of Winds took them with him
>>341362024
Turns out this place isn't Hyrule at all but another kingdom that heard about Link's legend and are trying to make an artificial one and everybody that tells him that he's in Hyrule is in on it and are just trying to save their own kingdom.
>>341361637
>>341361794
Okay but, what about Link trying to pick up his sword when he wake up?
