So then does Breath of The Wild take place in the wind waker timeline?
>>341325782
Probably really fucking far in, remember in WW when you had to go plant seeds around the islands and they said that it turns them into more land? This is all probably the result of that.
>>341325782
What says it has anything to do with the wind waker time line?
We don't rightfully know what a deku shrub looks like in the Failed hero time line (the Zelda 1 and 2 path)
>>341326243
Doesnt really mean anything. How would there be the castle and temple there?
Though seeing koroks is odd. Same as SS ChuChus
>>341327097
>How would there be the castle and temple there?
People built them of course.
>>341325782
>giving a flying fuck about zelda timelines
>>341327097
If you actually played the WW line then you'd know they abandoned old Hyrule and rebuilt.
>>341327219
So its a Hyrule that rose on the old one and fell again?
I find it odd they already confirmed Ganon for villian without even showing him.
>>341327527
I'm just speculating, but I'd assume so. Hyrule gets fucked over a lot.
>>341325782
It takes place in the Zelda is a dead franchise timeline
Rusted Master Sword makes me think it has to be long after any of the mainline 3D games. If the Kokiri evolved into the Koroks in one timeline, I don't see why they couldn't in another.
I'm placing my bets on before Zelda 1, because the Master Sword isn't even in that game.
>>341327489
That was Spirit Tracks Hyrul,e
>>341325782
Who cares?
Not sure if it does OP since they showed wolf link.
I think this whole game is the aftermath of all man.
nah, they know we will wreck our brains around the continuity and they are just sipping sake and raffing their asses off
>>341327489
so what happened to the old hyrule they abandoned
It's Ocarina of time 500-1000 years into the future.
The old man you meet at the start of the game is Ganondorf, who has wiped out most of the people in Hyrule except for himself, and is left now to wander it's decimated carcass knowing that he could never give his people the land they wantedI hope
>>341327848
It was wiped from existence, along with Ganondorf and the Master Sword.
Japanese dialogue is a bit different than the NoA translation.
>>341325782
I CAN'T STOP READING BREATH OF THE WILD AS BREATH OF FIRE
HELP
>>341325782
>catalogs are hard
>>341319303
>>341327998
>It's Ocarina of time 500-1000 years into the future.
That could mean any of 3 things at this point you doofus
>>341328054
I read it as Beast the first timethen breast
>>341325782
old man mentions, that great plateau is a bitrhplace for legendary Hyrule, so i guess that indicates that hyrule doesn't exist for hundreds nor thousands of years?
It's a retelling of the events of Zelda 1.
What if it's a fucked up world that's an amalgamation of the other timelines because of the time traveling world ending shenanigans that happen on a daily basis in the franchise?
>>341325782
Does that mean we'll see Ritos again?
>>341329010
no the wolfpeople extincted them
>>341325782
After phantom hourglass but before spirit tracks.
>>341325782
The Master Sword is a broken rusted mess in the opening title. I'm assuming this is, if the timeline is being taken into account (which it never fucking should be, EVER) then it could be the latest in said timeline.
>>341332381
That's what happens when Fi lets Link fuck her into oblivion. She gets broken by the fuckimg and rusted from all the cum.
>>341332687
>fucking something that rusts
how even
It's either thousands of years in the future or the start of a new time line as an alternate version of Zelda 1.
>>341326765
Koroks are what the Kokiri turned into in the WW timeline. Looking forward to seeing more Rito girls.
>>341328210
Two you mean.
There is no third timeline.
>>341332687
This reads like it was written by an 8th grade boy.
>>341334319
There is anon.
There is...
>>341325782
>drowned hyrule
>water evaporates
>the ruined land is now on the surface again
>islands 100s of ft up in the sky on massive pillars
>they're wind waker areas
As much as Aonuma's tried to push Wind Waker too much, I'd cum buckets.
>>341325782
>Hyrule has declined
>Zelda I and II are the era of decline
Original timeline confirmed. First ALBW, now this. Finally some canonical Zelda games.
>koroks
time and magic, don't gotta explain shit
>>341334895
Agreed. Kokiri can easily have become the Korok for reasons besides the flood in other timelines.
>>341334473
Show me the third timeline in the ending to Ocarina of Time.
Show me something is not by definition a retcon. In case I have to explain it to you, that means it's not canon.
Unless this game shows a flashback to Link getting impaled by Ganon, it's not canon to it wither.
>>341327998
>The old man you meet at the start of the game is Ganondorf
>Implying he's notthe king of Hyrule.
>>341325782
Timeline doesn't matter when there are TWO links in the same timeline because of amibos. If anything, it has to be somehow after twilight princess.
Didn't link leave the master sword to drown along with ganon and hyrule at the end of WW? It would make sense then that this is the same land resurfaced ages and ages later and that's the same master sword being rusted for staying underwater so long (hyrule was sealed from the waters during ww so it wouldn't have rusted)
There is no proof whatsoever that koroks do not exist in a state of quantum flux between timelines.
>>341335314
>>Show me something is not by definition a retcon
Lmao. There are three timelines, get over it.
>>341335774
This makes sense.
>>341335714
If it was Ganon after WW he'd need something to cover up his huge fucking forehead scar, anyway.
>>341335314
>die to ganon
>???
Do you really need to be show an cutscene of ganon getting to power and shit?
Link dies after the game over, thats obvious.
You game over on final ganon, then ganon wins.
Then the sages come and try to buttfuck ganon.
etc.
>>341335774
Thats... make sense.
Still, who removed it from Ganon's head?
>>341335314
Go away paid snill.
>>341336145
All the Sages with Link could not defeat Ganon at the end. What makes you think, that a Ganon empowered with the Triforces of Courage and Power would be defeated by Zelda without the Master Sword?
>>341336670
>zelda
Nigga what.
The sages seal ganon, then Alttp happens.
I hope this game has no ganon. He is canonically dead at the end of each timeline at this point, having this take place at the farthest point in the timeline and have a final showdown with Demise would be a nice way to bookend the series but it will never happen
>>341336949
Don't the triforce of power plus demise's curse give Ganon immortaly or some shit?
>>341335770
Can anyone justify this? It's cannon, it's in the universe. You can't just ignore it.
>>341335314
The original timeline is the canon one. Ocarina and its branching timelines are not canon.
>canon maymay
>>341328054
Breath of the Wild is a lame title anyway
>>341336834
No, they don't. It's not in the game, and it contradicts ALttP which says that the hero's blood flows through your veins.
You don't know anything about Zelda.
>>341334895
this is what I'm feeling too
it feels like it's either a remake of LoZ 1, or it takes place before
or maybe it falls in between OoT and LttP
>>341337246
The ALttP manual only describes the sages sealing Gabon away actually
After Windwaker
>>341337246
It only tells that the sages seal ganon after an war, not what happened before it.
For fuck's sake, stop being so salty about that.
>>341327998
that's the dumbest shit i've ever heard
also,
>implying the villian will be anything but an angry person who is evil and wants to destroy and/or rule everything
>>341337624
now, how did spirit tracks lonk and zolda fucked up?
>>341337070
ToP gives him immortality as long as he has it, which is until someone actually beats him 1v1 like in TP. Demise curse lets him be reincarnated so he can continue to be pissed off about things.
>>341337624
one more
>>341327097
they got pushed up to the top of the ocean and somehow, through Aonuma physics the land stayed level and intact not destroying the foundations of any of the buildings but causing slight damage to the infrastructure
>>341327489
you faggot
New Hyrule is far away on another continent somewhere founded after Phantom Hour Glass but before Spirit Tracks
they just confirmed gerudo desert so where the actual fuck is this game
>>341337519
>>341337668
The Sages and Ganon are never mentioned in the same context in ALttP. You would know this if either of you actually played the game.
They sealed the forces arising from the Dark Realm after Ganon perverted it. Yes, like OoT. But Ganon was not IN the Dark Realm.
READING COMPREHENSION, DO YOU KNOW OF IT?
>>341338295
Clip?
>>341326243
I hope there's a lot of deku trees around to talk to. I love those fuckers.
>>341325782
I don't think it does.
A. Hyrule is "decaying", whereas it should be gone if it was after Wind Waker
B. Ganon is alive
C. Koroks don't prove its in the Wind Waker timeline. Kokiri could have transformed into them in other timelines as well.
>>341338295
It's hyrule man.
We saw the Temple of Time from Ocarina like 5 seconds into the gameplay demo.
>>341338331
Why.
Are.
You.
So.
Angry.
About.
This?
>>341325782
It's a tie-in.It's actually kind of a post-apocalyptic Zelda, the world has ended and the few living beings left are all spirits of the past. The old mand is Ganondorf, since he literally will always come back to life. The game is about Link trying to get to the Master Sword, which is the single thing holding the dead Huryle in piece. Ganondorf will help Link as the old man, he just simply hopes to be able to finally rest. Zelda is the last boss, all her incarnations formed a goddess and she caused the world to end. All those machines are made by her and they're one of the instrument which caused the world to end.
>>341338497
sorry i meant gerudo valley
they showed this bridge, i dont have a clip
between phantom hourglass and spirit tracks for sure
>>341337876
The only time he actually reincarnates is in FsA though, he is the same ganon in every other game (split between multiple timelines of course)
We also never see the human form of Ganon in FsA so for all we know he could even be radically different before turning into a pig.
I don't really like the curse of Demise since it removes agency from Ganon as a villain making him a lot less threatening but eh.
>>341338802
>Old man is Ganondorf
>but this thing >>341337624 is Ganon
Exorcised Dorf might be interesting.
>>341339137
I like to think that ganon is half demise's anger and half ganon itself wanting to fuck things.
>>341338592
>ganon is alive
that's putting a lot of faith in nintendo even attempting to write a plot twist into a game. The old man looks like the king of hyrule, so he's definetly going to be the king of hyrule.
>>341338331
Lol you're retarded.
"The wise men and the Knights Of Hyrule combined forces to wage war on this evil horde. The Knights took the full brunt of the fierce attack, and although they fought courageously many a brave soul was lost that day, However, their lives were not lost in vain, for they bought precious time for the Seven Wise Men to magically seal Ganon in the Golden land. All of Hyrule rejoiced at the victory that upheld peace and order over Ganon's evil and chaos."
Ocarina of Time's final boss isn't the Imprisoning War
>>341338592
>A. Hyrule is "decaying", whereas it should be gone if it was after Wind Waker
After it's unflooded.
The ground is eroded and rounded from the flow of waters.
The land is unpopulated and wild because the people left.
>B. Ganon is alive
Demise or just magic nigga, Ganon can be anywhere anywhen.
>C. Koroks don't prove its in the Wind Waker timeline. Kokiri could have transformed into them in other timelines as well.
Their evolutionary specialization like the Rito, is the result of adapting to the flooded world.
The Rito adapted to fly over the water.
The Koroks adapted to live with the tree and spread its seeds to regrow the world.
>>341337081
They show a decrepit bridge of eldin in the trailer
>>341339572
>the zoras, built to live underwater, adapted to a flooded world by turning into fucking birds
this will never stop being funny to me
>>341339572
>After it's unflooded.
Wonder who the fuck did that, there was a fucking ocean of water.Its prob magic.
>>341327848
It was flooded with the rest of the old world as part of the King's last wish. Tetra uses her ancestral bloodright to found the new Kingdom so Status Quo is maintained.
>>341339928
Zoras are not made for salt water.
I think...
Pretty sure this is the Great Bridge of Hylia
>>341339931
Well it is littered with Sheikah shit. Gotta be magic.
>>341339137
I have mixed feeling about the Demise thing, but I think it at least makes Ganon a bit more sympathetic. Is he literally the hate curse incarnated? Or did the curse enter him at birth, making him cruel, greedy and dangerously unstable? Either way, the guy was destined to be the villain.
Going by the master sword placement I would guess the original timeline. Child timeline is also possible because Link left the sword in the woods then as well. I think there's some deliberate resemblance to the one in ALttP/ALBW though. Also the setting of a declined Hyrule and the "decline" label used in the (albeit translated) historia.
>>341339572
>The Koroks adapted to live with the tree and spread its seeds to regrow the world.
Hyrule seems to be in a rough time in this game, maybe the Koroks need to grow new Deku trees for a different reason.
Weren't Sheikah extinct throughout the WW timeline?
How do they return after thousands of years?
>>341340698
>Hyrule seems to be in a rough time in this game, maybe the Koroks need to grow new Deku trees for a different reason.
With a few exceptions most of the trees look very young.
There's a few giant rotted logs laying about though.
>>341339559
No shit Sherlock.
>>341340501
Koroks don't exist outside the adult timeline though
old Hyrule got pushed up to the surface thanks to the Deku Trees they planted and the Master Sword rusted from all the time it spent below the ocean
>>341325782
the ruins of the temple of time are in the demo so who knows
>>341339572
They said there are towns and people you can meet. That and they confirmed Ganon is back.
Also look at the logo for the game. It's a rusted ass Master Sword.
>>341340441
I think wind waker made a better job of making him sympathetic. His land was shit and wanted a better life for him and his people. Though yeah, I guess seeing it that way makes it better.
>>341340501
The pedestal in alttp/albw is the same as the one in OoT, it's just that the temple crumbled and woods grew around it eventually. TP shows the beginning of that process.
>>341327527
>they're switching up the formula this time around
>probably gonna subvert expectations
>ganon is in the game
>they say this straight out in the demo
>what would subvert expectations?
>ganon isn't the villain
I'd love this.
We might have seen him anyway. That once NPC who's really friendly towards Link.
>>341340209
There are Zora in the ocean in Oracle of Ages and Majora's Mask
>>341341031
I'm inclined to thinking they're fast and loose with lore anyway and just wanted to use koroks i.e. anything that contradicts what I say can be disregarded.
>>341341213
>Ganon is just an extra/end-game boss with his own dungeon that's actually irrelevant to the games story
>lets you sync your cellphone with the mastersword so Fi can call you up and say "hey"
Since it mentions the goddess Hylia and not Din, Nayru and Farore i assume its sometime after Skyward sword
>>341341024
Then what's your fucking problem? There's nothing wrong with the Decline timeline and Link dying since the Imprisoning War never had a hero assist the sages sealing Ganon
>>341327527
an NPC refers to "the Calamity Ganon"
he's like an evil force this time around
>>341335310
That's assuming they even have a 'true form'. Korok, Keewit, Kokiri, perhaps even skull kids.. what if they're all just one and the same, forest spirits that can take on new forms from time to time?
>>341328354
I would actually really like this to be true. It's got the feel down as a proper Open World Zelda in the the style of the original.
I hope all the other area's look this great.
>>341341662
The world seems to have already been laid to waste. I'd love it if Ganon was around but wasn't an antagonist. He's evil and he destroyed everything and now he's just empty inside.
>>341341492
>Ganon dungeon that isn't a boring mishmash of previous dungeon gimmicks and then a bunch of stairs
I can only hope
>>341325782
It's not impossible. We might even bee seeing the same Link from WW. When he wakes up and leaves he exits from a placed called the Shrine of Resurrection or some shit.
>>341341213
>Link is blue
>Link CAN jump
>Ganon isn't the villain
It all makes sense to me
so the new zelda actually looks good?
cool. will probably not buy a WiiU for it doe
>>341341605
>Since it mentions the goddess Hylia and not Din, Nayru and Farore i assume its sometime after Skyward sword
Every Zelda game is sometime after Skyward Sword
>all these theories
>no mention of the MGS Venom Link/robo-Link theory
It's the craziest yet most intriguing theory out there so far, imo.
Didn't Aonuma confirm that the story is going to be a lot more cryptic this time round?
>>341342168
heres a pic
He's trying to end the world this time around, I guess he just degenerated into pure evil
>>341341031
>find the Master Sword stuck in an overgrown potrusion on the ground
>pull it out
>suddenly you're standing on Ganon's head and he's pissed
>>341342639
Yeah that reincarnation machine just built an android Link to save them, it's pretty obvious.
>>341342925
>find Master Sword
>pull it out
>it's rusty as shit
>does less damage than the traveler's sword
And then you can find a way to repair it, I guess.
>>341341487
that's fair
I don't know though
I think they're only bad with science
like Zoras evolving into birds and in who knows how little time
but the fact that they're using Boko Sticks from the Boko Babas in Wind Waker as opposed to Deku Sticks from Deku Babas makes me think they're establishing that it's in the Adult Timeline
in regards to the master sword placement, I think they're just aware that the Master Sword looks the best when it's in a serene outside garden area, like in Twilight Princess, Link to the Past and Link Between Worlds
Sacred Grove just looks a lot fucking better than inside a temple. Also what >>341341157 said
if I had to guess where the Master Sword is now
I'd say maybe Ganondorf broke the seal once the land was pushed up and he's confirmed to be in this game, since Miyamoto mentioned how you can even fight him, whilst naked.
I'm guessing someone probably just put it in a pedestal or maybe it's at the ruins of Ganon's Tower. Ganondorf isn't back and someone smashed up his stone body and fashioned a pedestal out of his rock solid corpse
>>341342925
kek
>>341342725
hope somebody can get a source for this, because that sounds great. The idea of the story not being so apparent this time around makes more room for gameplay. Honestly this game is just finding a million new ways every segment to surprise and amaze me, I've not been this excited for a game, since I was a kid
>>341337624
>>341338040
How does this prove anything?
>>341325782
Yes
>The Koroks were once the human-shaped Kokiri, but when Hyrule was transformed into the Great Sea, they took on a more plant-like appearance. The Great Deku Tree says in the game, "Once upon a time, long ago, the Koroks took on human forms, but when they came to live on the sea, they took these shapes."
IE they evolved when hyrule was flooded, then wind waker happened and now it isn't flooded anymore
>>341333778
YES. I almost forgot about the rito. So fucking pumped to see them again
>>341325782
It's definitely the end of one of the timelines, but Koroks could easily surface after TP
I doubt the Zelda team even remembers where they came from
>>341343482
It doesn't, I just think they're interesting.
The presence of Koroks though means it absolutely HAS to be after Windwaker since the transformation of the Koroks and Rito are adaptations to a flooded Hyrule.
>>341343636
>now it isn't flooded anymore
>Ruining one of the most poignant story telling moments of the Zelda franchise
thanks Aonuma
Why hasn't Nintendo made a TV series that follows OOT Link's journey to find Navi post-MM?
>>341343919
>it absolutely HAS to be
I'm going to 'ave a giggle when it's one of the other timelines.
>>341325782
Why can't it be a mix of all the timelines? It's got the wolf too, and I doubt nintendo would care much about making things even more confusing
>>341344089
Nigga, they evolved because of the fucking flood.
>>341343919
>The presence of Koroks though means it absolutely HAS to be after Windwaker since the transformation of the Koroks and Rito are adaptations to a flooded Hyrule.
I think they'll just make some bullshit about Koroks appearing in the child timeline too. Too much doesn't fit for this to simply be a Wind Waker sequel
>>341344069
because OoT link doesn't have a happy end, in any timeline
>>341325782
Its clearly a remake/reboot of the original Legend of Zelda
>>341344210
What doesn't fit?
>>341344029
>make prequel featuring the origins of Ganon as a man named Ganondorf
>make two sequels to it that contradict it being a prequel
>the master sword sleeps FOREVER
>lol jk link picked it up again like a hundred years later but it's alright he put it back
>>341343773
Literally my original waifu
>>341344363
The fact that this looks like old Hyrule with the original Master Sword. The King wished for it to be forever washed away, and Link and Tetra restarted the royal bloodline in the far away New Hyrule.
>>341344195
Maybe climate change occurred and kokiri forest kept getting flooded. You know as well as anybody there's a possibility they'll just ignore the lore. It's Aonuma, this is why there's three timelines to begin with.
Guys.
GUYS.
If this takes place in the WW timeline, howdid the Master Sword get from being embedded in Big G's skull to being at a pedestal in the woods?
does anyone knows if there are actually "story" long dungeons? or just those shitty 1 puzzle mini dungeons
>>341344594
>The fact that this looks like old Hyrule with the original Master Sword.
Did you even play Windwaker?
We know for a fact, that the entire kingdom is just the bottom of the ocean.
You fucking go there in-game.
>>341344594
And this could be set centuries later after the land resurfaced. I agree it's retarded but zora turning into fish and the master sword sleeping forever while getting picked up every other game also happened.
it's kinda surprising that they just start the game with link waking up from stasis, no build up whatsoever. feels like a deliberate callback to the original zelda game.
>>341325782
More importantly, what is with the eye theme of this game?
>open your eyes, link
>>341344749
Yes, they've said this multiple times, and you'd be delusional to think they'll make a Zelda game without dungeons.
The mini dungeons aren't even called dungeons, they're called "Shrines" presumably for the specific purpose of differentiating them
>>341344791
>That doesn't explain how the Master Sword went from being impaled in Ganondorf's Head, to being back at the sacred temple.
I'm pretty sure it being inside him helped seal him for good.
>>341344670
They built a temple thing over his body
When you pull out the Master Sword,Ganon comes back to life and flies out of the ground
>>341344791
And the game ends with the Master Sword buried in Ganondorf's skull
>>341344836
It really cheapens the ending to unflood it with no explanation.
>>341343919
>implying the Great Hippy Tree wasn't thinking about turning them into wood creatures anyway
Besides, they couldn't do shit on their own as kokiri. In OoT, they had to stay inside because no one could be bothered to prune the Deku Babas before they got huge as fuck, and Mad Scrub rape gangs ruled the streets.
>>341344925
It is, you can see the mountains from some original Zelda 1 artwork
>>341345034
>>341345050
Nobody said it had to take place immediately after Windwaker.
There's plenty of time for the sword to move around.
>>341345158
that's so awesome
I guess aonuma finally beat zelda 1
>>341338802
That'd be sick.
>>341345231
But we'd also need an explanation for why Zelda left New Hyrule
>>341325782
Between Phantom Hourglass and Spirit Tracks.
>>341344929
the gimmick for this game is called the Sheikah Slate
eyes are kind of the Sheikah's thing
>>341325782
Despite the chuchus and those wood fellows, I'm hoping it's the hero is defeated timeline. It would make the start of the game make more sense and why it's all wild life now.
>>341344670
sprouted little fi legs and walked
>>341342808
>form of the pig
now which timelines had him as a pig??
that's right, not wind wakers
>>341345373
she dies and reincarnates back on the original continent with a new link to combat a reemerging ganon
>>341341213
Ganon is the old man. Screencap this.
>>341345487
>walked
>underwater
>>341345584
>goddess hylia mentioned
Can't be set after Zelda 1 then, as by then Hyrule is Christian.
>>341345513
OoT has him turn into a pig and the guy in WW is the same dude.
>>341345584
no, he is a loyal follower from a sect that is trying to revive him, what you see in the trailer and castle isn't ganon, that's why he i asking for the spirit orbs
screencap THIS
>>341345584
Yeah thats the first thing I thought of too.
Dude looks too much like ganon
how can the blade rust under the sea if it was lodged in ganondorfs stone skull?
>>341338802
>First girls get triggered that they can't make Link into a girl
>Then the ultimate always has been evil was Zelda
>>341325782
>Link, wake up
>Adventure of Link is the only game where the name Link is used canonically
It's set 100 years after Zelda 2.
Link starts at the shrine of resurrection. Did he died?
>>341345050
Maybe it is explained, we don't know yet. It's not like they never did anything similar though. The whole destiny shit in SS cheapens the efforts of every character in every game a bit as well in my opinion.
Though the fact that the master sword is rusted, it being placed in a random spot in the woods (the pedestal in alttp and albw is the same as the one in the temple of time, it just gets ruined with time and surrounded by the woods as shown in TP. We see the ruins of the ToT in this game, so the sword is definetly placed in a different spot), the existance of creatures originated by the flood, the fact that the world is in ruins all point out to this being unflooded hyrule. Not saying it's 100% certain but it's the safest bet at this point.
>>341345750
metal is heavier than water anon
>>341345513
Pig mode is like Dorf's rage mode now
>>341334895
>Has the Temple of Time in a less ruined state
>Has a bridge similar to the Bridge of Eldin
>Koroks
>Parts of the map look like LoZ
Honestly hard to say. I am seriously thinking this is either pre-twilight princess, or in the same era as Zelda I and II.
Link was revived by ganondorf (old man) in the beginning of the game.
Zelda is the villian this time.
>>341345773
also
>era of decline is when Hyrule becomes Christian
jee Nintendo cut it out with the historical commentary
stream guy just said "the world's probably changed a bit, it's been a hundred years"
Idk his name sorry
>>341345925
But Zelda stories are typically written to be understood even by those who have never played one, but it's going to take a lot of time to have this premise make sense to those familiar with the lore
>>341346045
The old man is the King of Hyrule you dumb shitposter. His facial features are identical copy pasted from Wind Waker.
>>341344929
Isn't this the Magnifier thing from Oot?
Did they just avoid it due to spoilers or did the temple of time ruins have nothing interesting inside? I was getting firelink vibes from it so it was disappointing not to see it.
>>341345038
someone must have removed ganondorf.
>Dampe is the one that finds the body and removes Ganon from Ganondorf, leaving dorf mild and neutrally aligned
>>341325782
we'll have to wait for further confirmation. Koroks could easily just be a newly added race to any of the other timelines. WW timeline leaves Hyrule to form New Hyrule so any gameplay we see here assuming it's within the WW timeline would have to be set in the far future.
Ganon being an established character and not something being teased or alluded to makes me think this is the fallen timeline or the young link timeline both in their most possible futures.
>>341346213
Why? It just needs a vague introduction like WW. People who played the previous games can piece it together and people who never did will be content with the context given. In WW, it was quite inconsequential that adult link once showed up from the past to defeat ganon once and then disappeared, but people who played OoT obviously recognized him as the protagonist from that game. All this game needs to do is mention a huge cataclysm in ages past and the land starting to recover and there you go.
>hyrule has declined
>old cave hobos
this is zelda 1 timeline for sure
>>341345584
And Link is an android or a clone. Screencap this.
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>>341340293
looks nothing like it fucktard
>>341346171
Isn't that basically ever Zelda game. I think Wind Waker was said to be 100 years (later 100s), same with TP, Spirit Tracks and ALBW.
btw the old guy is Link from which Venom-Link is cloned.
>>341346276
>>341344929
>>341345429
The sheikah symbol is the eye. Appears on the gossip stones, built by the sheikah
The lens of truth, was believed to be made from a dead sheikah's eye.
They're all about seeing into your mind and seeing the truth and shit.
>>341346547
Like I said, the problem is Spirit Tracks.
The royal family is now living in New Hyrule which is in a far off part of the world and was last seen doing extremely well for itself. What reason would they have to return?
>>341346216
What old man? I missed the stream today
>>341327763
A lot of people apparently. Hyrule Historia sold a TON and there are a lot of dedicated sites to talking about the time line. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean everyone agrees friendo! :3
>>341345919
Last one game over'd'. The shrine will keep pumping out Links until one of them gets it done.
>>341325782
Seems like it's really far in the future - probably way after spirit tracks which was "Hyrule's rebirth" on the timeline.
I think it's aliens.
>>341325782
Honestly, the Korok's presence in the game is a mystery in itself. We know that the Kokiri only evolved into the Korok after the great flood, which eliminates a potential prequel to WW, but then there's also the fact that the original Hyrule is flooded forever in the titles after it, eliminating this game as a potential sequel to it either. The Temple of Time never got rebuilt in the new Hyrule.
Even with this in mind, there is an odd timeline possibility from what we have in mind. This mural in TPHD clearly shows rito despite them not even existing prior to that in said timeline. What this could mean for this game is unsure, but it does prove that Aonuma can pull pretty much anything no matter which timeline it takes place in.
>tfw it's at the end of all three timelines
>>341337113
you mean the failure timeline?
>>341335714
That was my first thought too, that the Old Man is the King.
Seems kinda obvious, imo.
>>341345919
More like he's a clone.
>>341346849
>What old man?
So far the guesses are
>king of hyrule
>ganondorf
>a previous link
>the old dude from zelda 1
>>341337624
Ganon transforms into a giant monster and you have to climb up his body and hit his weak points to beat him.
>>341347102
yes, the canon timeline
>>341344296 ....
>>341335314
>Go back in time to get into the bottom of the well
>Go forward in time again and save Hyrule
>There is still a future left behind with no Link
Whenever you travel backwards in time and change something you create a new timeline, which is the only reason why a split is allowed to happen at the end of OoT in the first place. In theory there could be more than one "Hero is defeated" timelines depending on how often Link time travels, but they would all turn out effectively the same.
>>341346849
That's true, but that's just as hard to explain as to why races from wind waker, which all originated along with the flood, exist in this land. Either the reincarnation cycle is not tied to direct lineage (which would make sense since, in the failure timeline, link dies without having any heir and yet he resurrects anyway a few generations later) or they just moved back for whatever reason during the millennia (colonizing a new land that was starting to come up from the waters, for example)
>>341347172
Closer image of the old man.His nose looks almost exactly the same as the king of hyrule's.
>>341347172
It's very clearly a take on the old man from Zelda 1.
maybe itignores the timelines and draws elements from all previous games
>>341337081
Summoning his spirit maybe? Hero of time was in TP, albeit a ghostly version, but he still appeared in the over world as a golden wolf. So it's not that far fetched to think this magic wielding Link could summon a past incarnation
>>341347490
>Alone fr quite some time
Okay, I'm sold that it's connected to Wind Waker
>>341337624
I hope this thing changes as you progress in the game.
Why isn't there a timeline split from every game for when Link fails? Why just Ocarina?
>>341345429
>>341346832
but how do you think it specifically ties into the game's lore
>>341347362
Im sorry bro, have this (you)
>>341347172
HMMMM
I wonder who this shady old man could be.
>>341347482
They could easily just have the Koroks become Kokiri in the child timeline
When Rito show up I'll be more convinced
>>341347490
Holy fuck, you're right!
>>341347490
You mean from Wind Waker? But he was just a spooky ghost or some shit.
>>341347490
whoa he got a tan
really makes you think
>>341347567
That would be ideal, but I sort of doubt it. Still, it's stupid to try and guess the timeline placement with such little information, and saying it has to be one or the other because of science or geographical location is dumb when Zelda games have no problem messing with both for the sake of the game.
>>341347671
see
>>341347404
Link's "failure" is only canon when he travels back in time and leaves the future behind. There are countless timelines where Termina is destroyed for instance, but those are all likely dead ends.
>>341347172
I'm surprised people aren't saying Rauru/Kaepora Gaebora. On the stream they even compared him to "the owl" which presumably means KG and not the nameless owl.
>>341347671This game is a failure timeline for Wind Waker
>>341347793
He looks more like the king of red lions than ganon t.bh
>>341347490
the tan makes me say its ganondorf
>>341347671
I'm gunna go with the time travel aspect.
Its technically the only game that had multiple links, which is what caused the split.
Will there be a rapist in this game?
>>341347809
>implying half of the rito haven't reverted back into Zora and thus there is a long 437829407091289 year war about which is the superior race developing nuclear warheads along with super advanced tech which is why the entirety of hyrule is a baren desolate post apocalyptic world with tribes of Bokoblins running around trying to take over the place.
>>341347172
Post WW-Ganondorf whose been freed from his evil curse and now intends to do good.
The spectral Gamon is Demise's soul, looking for a new host to incarnate into.
>>341347490
His eyes though, look at them. Yellow Irises.
Seems like G to me. Also the nose looks like Ganondorf's.
Majora's timeline is best timeline with the best games
OOT > MM > TP
ye nig
>>341348190
please stop posting microagressions to perpetuate rape culture. This is 2016 for fucks sake. Stop talking about this.
>>341348232
I'd love that. It's never going to happen though. Nintendo would never even attempt a plot twist in a game like this, so ganon is going to be evil, the king of hyrule is going to be the old man, at some point you'll be getting the triforce of courage and defeat ganon restoring peace to the land
>>341347490
old man is the king. I will accept no other opinions until proven otherwise by the game or spoilers.
>>341348310
Only the child segments of OoT count. ONly Wind Waker and LttP acknowledge the good parts
after cow tits got the ice-thing-rune, she skipped a bunch of dialogue with the old man, did it say anything that could hint of where the story takes place?
>red trousers
>hair in a bun
Nintendo did it.
The old man is Ganon misdirecting you
>I trained him wrong, as a joke
>>341347172
or what if
hear me out here
what if it's just an old man
>>341347940
>>341347926
>>341347404
No.
>>341347671
Downfall timeline is the original timeline where Link was never frozen in time and faced Ganondorf younger.
Why else would Link aging be important this time but in no other game unless it was known that he'd fail using the Master Sword at that age?
ALttP's Link's wish probably made the time freeze in OoT happen.
>>341347967
>>341347490
>the nose
the long nose is more of a ganondorf thing.
king hyrule from ww had a pretty flat nose that started right at his forehead.
Ganon is the guy with the pointy nose.
see
>>341347793
>>341347926
>every time you use the song of time in MM a termina is met with a terrible fate.
What was the purpose of planting seeds in WW?
Was kt to 'grow' land or something?
Might explain the new Hyrule, with parts of it bringing the ocean floor up
For most of the trailer Link is shown wearing a verity of shirts and armors. Do you guys think the classic green tunic will be absent?
>>341348519
His talk was just vague stuff about ancient sheikah magic.
>>341348495
Look at the fucking nose the guy has.
It's ganondorf.
King of hyrule has a flat boxer nose, ganondorf has the jew nose.
>ancient sea
Are people really debating this? It's pretty much confirmed to be sometime after A Link Between Worlds, likely after Zelda II.
Source:it's not confirmed at all, I deceived you.
>>341348750
Anouma just noted it in stream, didn't say anything more.
It well will be though.
>>341348750
It will be the best outfit in the game.
