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>GTX 970 performance
>Actually 4GB VRAM
>~$149
>last gen performance at current gen prices
>>341317945
Current card is an HD7770, might get this one.
AMD: Get excited for last year's performance, today!
>>341319130
I feel you anon. My current card is a HD7790 and It now struggles to run modern games.
The 470 rivals the 1050, right?
970 performance is pretty good.
>>341317945
but I already have a r9 290
>>341317945
>4gb vram
It's the current year.
>>341317945
>GTX 970 performance
Where your benchmarks to back that up?
It's the same as them saying "hur dur 2 of our 480 beat a 1080 in this highly AMD optimized game xD"
While Crossfire is fucking dead and straight up useless in most 2016 games.
Also
>buying a GPU with only 4GB in 2016
>>341317945
That's a pretty damn fine price for that performance.
>>341319190
you only need to aim for current gen console's performance since everything is a port
unless you aim above 100fps or 4k res you're wasting money
>>341317945
This really feels like good old days with 6600GT and 6800GT
GPUs should be cheap, fuck you mother fuckers.
>>341318896
the gtx 1070 is 400 bones
IF you can find one.
The gtx 970 is still more than 149.
>>341318896
Where the fuck can you get a 970 for $150?
>>341320542
>400
It's 450
>>341320542
>>341320694
Irrelevant. Price cuts always happen. AMD has to fight tooth and nail just to stay afloat.
>>341318896
>>341319190
It's all relative you shits, there will always be a performance overlap spanning many concurrent generations.
Only thing that changes is the performance ceiling, and price.
>>341320803
So it isn't current gen prices and you can't buy a 970 for $150?
Yeah. Don't let the door hit your ass on the way out.
>>341317945
That looks like the kind of hardware bit that breaks constantly
>>341320803
for last 2 years, price cutting wasn't even considered.
as everyone cuts old production line and old cards don't get produced any longer, they will stay same price if not higher.
tfw I'll finally get rid of my 750 Ti.
Never built a PC before and recently began looking into it because I want to play BF1 with some friends (haven't played any BF since BF 2 on a shitty laptop which I still use)
This could be good for a budget-ish PC for 1080p 60fps r-right?
>>341317945
I have a 570 from years ago
What should I get to play doom and mgsv and the upcoming new games?
>>341321539
Fuck yes. If the performance truly is like what they told us.
I'm regretting buying a 970 last year now.
>>341321078
You might want to look into the RX 480, according to what they said, that one is build with all high-end components. And it's just 50 bucks more.
And by that I think they referred to voltage mosfets, and capacitors, and so one.
>>341321545
nigga i got a 580 and i'm running MGSV on high/ultra, this game is well optimized
>>341321545
Anyone?
>>341321545
wait for actual ingame tests and then decide between either a 1070 or 480
>>341319403
We can't say for sure until Nvidia launches their mid and low range products. Nvidia might not even be competing in the $100-$200 range
>>341318896
>last gen
you mean last year? the 970 can still play literally every video game at 1080p 60fps and will continue to be able to play such games in the future.
>>341321756
>I'm regretting buying a 970 last year now.
But you got to play games at high settings for an entire year, that's what the extra money was for
>>341320803
>think before you speak
Top kek nice one anon.
>>341322314
it can't play every game and stay above 60 fps though
>>341321539
The rx 480 will be better for that.
>>341317945
When did they present this?
Was it at the E3 PC gaming show?
>>341321120
I'm with ya
>>341322314
You're literally means nothing when you know the games won't be played at max.
>>341322435
>above
1440p is a tiny and niche market
144hz is a tiny and niche market
1080p 60fps has been the standard of PC gaming for ages and will continue to do so, which makes cards like the GTX 1070 and GTX 1080 useless to most consumers because they're so obnoxiously overkill for 1080p 60fps gaming.
So I've got an ancient ATI 5850. Any recommendations for an affordable upgrade?
>>341317945
RX470 will not have GTX970 performance, RX480 will. RX470 is about a GTX960
>>341323000
actually, benchmarks have all put the 480 around the 980
>>341322768
how affordable is 'affordable'?
>>341322768
RX 480 looks like a worthy upgrade at $230/$200.
OP's prediction of RX 470 at $150 is reasonable sounding but completely pulled out of his ass due to no pricing announcements at all for 470/460.
>>341322768
>5850
Anyone who has that card knows what they're doing in terms of value for the money.
I doubt you actually need advice on this.
>>341323125
Benchmarks have been released? Actual game benchmarks or just 3dmark scores?
>>341320780
>450
It's $379
>>341323213
As long as it isn't some absurd $700 pricetag. I'm just trying to do an upgrade for once.
>>341323230
I'd definitely go for the 470 if it's only $150.
>>341323336
I've been out of the loop for quite some time.
>>341319190
I'm 4 years behind and with these cheap cards I can afford to catch up, its pretty great for me.
Will probably get the RX480 when I move after summer.
Better than what I got and required specs for games aren't going up that much anymore.
Anything better is just overkill unless you really must have 200fps for some reason or want to run at a higher res than 1080.
>>341323587
one of the rx 400 series cards i guess
>>341323347
Game "benchmark" depend heavily on the support the devs provide for the cards, synthetic shit is the best you can get for a fair comparison.
>>341324050
Game benchmarks are more realistic though, and theres a reason why mutliple games are tested instead of one. You get multiple scenarios which paint a more realistic picture.
>>341323662
To clarify I have a GTX 660 (Released 2012), @ 2GB vram. I can double my power and it will cost less than my 660 did when I got it two years ago.
>>341317945
WHERE IS MY FUCKING FLAGSHIP CARD??? FUCKING POORFAGS
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341322768
Same situation, I'm sitting at an ATI Radeon 4600 with 256 mb VRAM.
It seems inevitable that I'll have to replace the Processor and Motherboard also to get any effect out of a new GPU, but who knows, I've never built a computer before.
>>341323516
> believing Nvidia's jewish lies
link to someplace with 1070 *in stock* at something remotely resembling no-FE MSRP?
>>341324469
>amd flagships
>literally melting your PC
y
>>341321756
lol I bought a 970 for $200 a few months ago cause I thought it was a great deal
>>341324469
your choices are a 980-esque $700 psuedo flagship today that will be a laughingstock next year, or waiting 8 more months for Vega/GP102, which will actually have some longevity and decent price/value.
>>341324385
Which only prove to my eyes which devs optimise their game.
Also each side will cherrypick one game with bad results to shitpost with, every single time.
While shit like the 3dmark score mean jack-shit, it still help positioning them in comparison to other cards.
>>341324664
>memes from years ago
I feel like buying AMD this time
>>341322525
Anyone?
>>341319130
>>341319130
My current card is a HD5850.... built the PC 6 years ago
I can run overwatch on all low settings... i need a new computer BAD
>>341324420
same here, except i have a 670 gtx
>>341317945
the fact that anybody is excited about this should tell you how many poorfag children are on this board claiming to be "PC masterrace"
>>341324862
it actually was at that point.
hopefully you got more value playing stuff since that it will have depreciated by the end of the month.
I have a GTX 670, I want to play witcher 3 at 1440p. Should I get a 480X? will it run witcher 3 maxed out (without AA)?
>>341317945
>muh one shitty rts that shows amd in better light
show me benchmarks
>>341321545
>doom and mgsv
yeah, both those games are extremely well optimized. MGSV way more than Doom. Get a 470
>>341317945
>Eggfrying temperatures with no room for overclocking, unlike 970
>>341324664
2bh my current nvidia card runs pretty hot and heats up my room in the summer and i hate it.
amd's new stuff runs on pretty fancy tech. the 480 has really low power usage so i assume the 490 will be relatively energy efficient and thus not that hot.
>>341322525
>>341325207
yeah like yesterday morning in the middle of the 1.5 hour PC Gamer presentation.
very underwhelming, with just the 470/460 unveiled and a retarded VR backpack concept thing.
I just want a RX 480 in my hands and firm details on Vega/1080Ti.
>>341325591
The RX 480 is said to use less than 100 watts.
The 470 should be even less.
>>341317945
>149$
Definetly not in my country, it's a little under 375$ in the land of poles.
>>341317945
>Just built in January with an R9 380
Well that sucks. At least the whole build was only 700 bucks and works pretty well for a sub-800 build.
>>341325778
>The RX 480 is said to use less than 100 watts.
only by idiots.
PCIe + 6-pin = 150W absolute max.
people are guessing anything from 110W to 130W, but anything much lower is way out of line with the perf/Watt gains (~2.5x) AMD has been vaguely hinting at.
>>341326051
No need to worry about cooling in Antarctica at least
>>341322525
>>341325207
yes it was at AMD's (PC gaming) conference
RX 490 FUCKING WHEN
>>341323000
RX480 = GTX 980
>>341326470
next Winter/Spring, faggot.
same as GP102/1080Ti.
>>341326591
>next Winter/Spring
no fucking way they're gonna wait that long
what am I supposed to upgrade my 390 to?
So is AMD using HBM2 on all their cards above the rx 480? Because I doubt they've won *everything* this generation if that's true. HBM2 is definitely better, but it costs more. Nvidia is still using GDDR5 for the 1070 and below, so Nvidia *might* have a price advantage in the below 1070 but above rx 480 or 470 bracket. In terms of cost to produce, that's most likely the case. It's just up to Nvidia to not demand super high profit margins...
>>341318896
>bringing better performance to lower price points is a bad thing
WHAT THE FUCK ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT
Holy shit, this isn't consoles, PCs have always had levels of performance at appropriate price points, it's one of the advantages of PC gaming you simple motherfucker.
>>341326721
iktf m8
t. 980ti
>>341324978
Fair enough. Sadly devs not optimising their games properly, or using things like Gameworks is a reality and not something the play can fix
>>341326721
a 1070
>>341319190
you are truly stupid troll.
>>341319494
I'm running modded Skyrim with 1gb vram. Finished both Metro games, now I'm playing Witcher3.
You are truly brainwashed.
>>341326721
There's not enough evidence that the Polaris 10 is really a 2560 shader chip being binned to the 2304 shader RX 480.
Unless there's going to be a big and small Vega and the small one uses 384b GDDR5(X), we're stuck waiting on the Gooks to get HBM2 manufacturing going.
>>341317945
Unless I'm seeing things wrong
>No additional power connector
Should appeal to 750tifags looking for an upgrade
>Single slot
That probably means they're killing DVI on their entire reference design. Doesn't affect me personally but it seems kind of dumb to do that on their budget cards.
>>341326470
Rumours say October albeit with the source being a chink's ass, so take that with an American size serving of salt.
I'm really looking forward to the 8GB 480. I plan on selling my 7950 and replacing it.
I have a 4k monitor but even if it performs as well as it does I can at least play at higher resolutions and upscale a bit more.
>>341318896
So 3 980s in sli is also "last gen performance"?
Sign me up for some last gen performance then
>>341325591
that's the opposite of Polaris, you retard. why do people like you, who clearly have no idea what they're talking about, even browse /g/?
>>341327406
>SLI
So barely faster than a single card most of the time.
>>341327026
This is one of the few main reasons why I cheer for the current gen consoles.
With those, you just know (most) developers will make fair games.
On the PC things just get political really fast, and you will see developers destroy performance on every platform like Assassin's Cree Unity, to punish every AMD machines, as well as to punish every Nvidia machines (but they get punished less, so they will look better in benchmarks).
It's just a shitfest I've gotten tired of.
I can't wait for the 480 benchmarks so that I can full compare them to the 1070's.
Oh, and fuck the founder's editions. What a ripoff. I can't believe we have to wait a month for Nvidia to finish draining whale's credit cards.
>>341327546
you're getting baited, son
>>341317945
The fuck would i buy that when I could buy a 1070?
>>341326916
GDDR5X is certainly a bit cheaper than HBM+interposer, but when you look at how thermally fucked 1080s are, HBM might be almost necessary for 400+ mm^2 14/16nm GPUs.
The other thing to note is that Fiji was 600 mm^2 and its interposer needed space for 4 HBM modules to reach 4GB / 500GB/s, whereas Vega could get the same bandwidth and 2x-4x the capacity with only 2 modules.
>>341319130
Why not drop $50 more and get a 480?
>>341317945
This should be expected.
The 970 was released 2 years ago.
A cheap card should be able to match it by now.
>>341328008
You shouldn't. You need to stay loyal to Nvidia, like you've been told to be.
>>341328495
I'm not talking about loyalty. I'm talking about performance wise. Money is not an issue at all.
>>341328875
then get a 1080 cuck
>>341328983
Amd fans y'all lmao
>>341317945
Youre already jerking off on /g/, kill yourself
>>341328008
>150$ vs 470$
>>341328008
do you play at 1440p or 144hz?
>>341326051
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>>341329361
fuck off, faggot. I jerk off to lolis
>can't make my mind up between a $700 GTX 970 build or a $1100 GTX 1070 build
I'm kinda leaning to the 1070 because I shouldn't need a new GPU for several years that way.
>>341330339
>970
go for a 470 then you idiot
>>341326721
>tfw I have 380 2GB
>mfw I can calmly decide which GPU I'm upgrading to
>>341329680
Not yet, but I'm hopping on board VR with the first Vive price drop.
>>341330405
If I was going to go AMD then I would just get the 8gb 480 "you idiot". Fuck the other cards, I can spend $200 or $229.
>tfw my current card is a 6790
Might actually get the RX480, the performance/price seems insane.
I have a Radeon HD 7950, are any of these a good upgrade?
>>341331554
480 is. equivalent to a 980 for $200
>>341317945
Can't wait.
Been hanging on with my HD 7950 for a few years now, but I can't play games like Witcher 3 without sperging over shit frames.
But, is it better to get RX480? I don't care for VR though.
Im running an older 8800 gts that was a hand-me down. What should I pull the trigger on /v/
>>341332787
your headLOL
FUCKING NICE.
NVIDIA IS FINISHED. RX470 IS A NEW HIT.
>tfw 7950
i want to change it but I have no idea which card should I get
>>341332679
>But, is it better to get RX480?
for sure. if you can afford it ($199-$230), get it
>Going to wait a year and get the 1180 so that Scorpio doesn't leave me behind in the dust.
>>341335061
>>341334748
the pic on the right, source? I want to compare my card to it.
>>341332679
We have to wait for benchmarks to be sure. If you have no interests in VR or going past 1080p then it seems like the 470/480 will be the way to go.
I'm personally still eyeing that smexy non-founder 1070.
>>341317945
>~$149
>I will be able to upgrade like this
>>341335286
http://videocardz.com/61064/amd-polaris-10-and-polaris-11-specifications
At the very bottom of the article.
>>341317945
>Was looking to upgrade
>Was gonna get a 960
>This
Neat.
>>341331810
Only 980? That's a bit disappointing, as 980 already can't handle all newest games at 1080p at the highest settings.
>$149
So what's the catch?
Is it going to explode when you turn the PC on?
Will the heat it generates keep me warm for winter?
>>341317945
Who the fuck cares about the 470? The 480 gives between 980/390x and Fury performance for $200.
Nvidia will be forced to bring down the 1070 to the $300 range before long.
>>341317945
finally a card for my eastern european wallet
>>341336094
But it can.
>>341324469
October with Vega. Until then, get two 480 for $400 and get better performance than a $700 1080
>>341336193
It makes so little heat you'll freeze this winter.
>So what's the catch?
The RX 480 is better value in my opinion.
>>341330963
>380
>2GB
mistakes
made
>>341336346
>there have never been GPUs in the 100-200 priece range
>>341336648
Yes I know. That's what you get when you buy second hand stuff cheap from your relatives.
>>341318896
>>341319190
>1070 offers 980ti performance for 30% less money
>Nvidiots cream themselves
>RX 480 offers 980 performance for half price
>RX 470 offers 970 performance for half price
>Nvidiots pretend it's bad
>>341317945
>470 performing as well as a 970 and 390 for $150
>480 performing better than the 980 and 390x for $200
I pity the retards that are paying $450 for the 1070 right now. The Nvidia tax meme has never been as true as it is now. I can picture their faces once Nvidia cuts its price by a hundred bucks or so in a couple months.
That's pretty fucking awesome.
But my hope is that Nvidia launches a 1060/1060 ti that can compete with these cards in terms of price/perf. I definitely don't want to be stuck on shitty fucking AMD bug-ridden drivers.
If I can't avoid that I'll go with the rx 480.
>>341336424
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXhHivCLBwc
See 5:37 and 6:25
>>341337176
nah there's many more idiots pretending to be retarded than actual fanboys
>>341334748
Very nice.
I'm using an r7 250x and I'm shooting for the RX480, so this will be a huge upgrade.
>>341336771
bugger off scoundrel, i have GTX 760 that i bought 2 years ago
Retards. You really think AMD will keep these prices if Nvidia have shit the bed this hard with their price/performance ratio of their new cards?
I remember back in 2009, the 299 euro 5870 could rival the 599 euro gtx 480. I grabbed one immediately. A month later, the 5870 was at 499 euros.
If AMD releases with these prices, grab a card ASAP, they won't keep them for long.
I have no idea how GPUs work, but you can cross fire these right?
Have big is the comparison of one 480 versus two?
>>341317945
how much different are the 470 and the 480? how much worht it is it to spend the extra 50 bucks?
>>341338347
Supposedly stores already have large stock of 480. It's not a paper launch with low availability
>>341338347
>I remember back in 2009, the 299 euro 5870 could rival the 599 euro gtx 480. I grabbed one immediately. A month later, the 5870 was at 499 euros.
Didn't that happen because of the whole crypto currency bullshit? Or was it the HD7xxx series?
I remember one AMD gen was screwed by miners who'd buy their cards in bulk, inflating the prices.
>>341338445
Two 480 is faster than GTX1080 in 3DMark and Ashes of singularity. Thats all we know.
>>341338556
I say around 20% difference.
>>341319725
were you the same asshole claiming the 970 was still a good buy even with the 390 8GB superior in every way was out
>>341338775
I just remember wanting a 2nd 5870 and being surprised by the increased prices.
I assumed it was because Nvidia had shit the bed with Fermi.
>>341338556
470 is 970/390 level. 480 is between 980/390x and Fury. So IMO those extra $50 are worth it.
>>341338797
my PC has a pci-express 16 slot, will one of these cards fit in this slot?
>>341323516
Link?
450 everywhere for the next 2 months, 379 next year.
>>341339275
Sure.
Someone tell me what to think. 1070 or RX 470?
Have an R9 290 4GB, should I grab a 480? Looks like a great upgrade, and I have a 1080p monitor, MAYBE getting a 1440p monitor in the future.
>>341317945
it doesnt even have a cooler fucking amd
nvidia wins again
>>341339243
>>341338797
roger that, thanks
>>341338775
The 58XX series predates the cryptocurrency bullshit by quite a few years. Nvidia really fucked up with their lineup during that time.
Around 2012 prices skyrocketed for the HD7XXX due to bitcoin mine demand.
>>341339597
Right, thanks. I knew one gen was ruined by miners but didn't recall which.
>>341339531
It's only a 20-25% upgrade. Not worth the investment.
>>341317945
>>341317945
>Have an ASUS hd7870 Direct CU II
>Been wondering if I should upgrade any time soon
Did I mention I kinda found the Asian Businesswoman attractive?
150$ is an alright price point.
But I think it may be time to upgrade to 16gb of RAM
So I'm looking at a 375$ Pricepoint for the card plus ram upgrade. Assuming I don't need a heavier PSU.
>>341339275
There's pic-e x16 1 2 and 3
2 and 3 it'll work fine, 1 will limit the speed of card
>>341317945
>>341317945
>a new card can beat a 2 year old card
wow.
>>341339724
Why not though? I have no brand loyalty by the way, I'm going purely based on price performance
>>341339925
Really? well then. I should just wait for the 490 inevitable announcement then I guess, or maybe upgrade the CPU. the 6300 I have has been putting in tons of work but I think it's starting to show its age even though I'm overclocking the shit outta it.
>>341339939
16GB of ddr3 is like 50$ dude, 32GB is 100$.... It's not expensive right now for ram
>>341339939
8GB RAM is still enough for games.
>>341339950
damn I dont recall which one my motherboard has.
well I do plan on upgrading the whole thing later, so I could buy a 480 now, to increase performance in some games, and when I buy the other components just move the card there, and hopefullybuy a second card to crossfire it
>>341319190
Why pay $800 for an nvidia high end card when a $150 AMD card does 100% of it when I'm just gonna play 1080 @ 60fps anyways.
There's no games out there that actually need nvidia cards. I can max shit out on much cheaper and more efficient AMD hardware.
Call me when nvidia has reasonable prices
>>341340050
>A new mid-low end card that will retail for $150 will perform the same as a two years old card that still sells for $320 today
You Nvidiots really try to find excuses to talk shit about anything.
>>341317945
i hope amd does something
nvidia has dominated since the 4xx series
>>341340256
>>341340256
It's not for me.
Either that or something else is ailing in my system.
I get lock ups and shit playing arma with firefox open.
I've usually got like 6+ Tabs open.
FX6350, 8gb of DDR3 Ram a normal HDD & My HD7870
>>341340162
maybe it's a 30% upgrade, but that's still not worth it.
you should be aiming for 70-100% performance upgrades. This probably means 490
>>341340551
>"since the 4xx series"
Fermi says hi.
>>341340549
Technology is suppose to be cheaper. When it's cheaper and can only very slightly beat a two year old card, it doesn't mean shit for anyone who already has a capable PC, as in 90% of the people on this website who play PC games.
Notify me if the 490x outclasses the 1080ti for half the price, now that would be something to report.
>>341339490
are you the kind of person who thinks a 10% (possibly less) performance boost is worth paying 3x as much for a GPU
if yes 1070
if no RX 470 (though it's silly to not get a RX 480 really)
>>341340568
modern browsers eat RAM. close your browser.
Also ARMA Doesn't like the FX6350. It's a very CPU hungry game AND badly optimized for multicore at the same time.
If you have a decent cooler on the FX you should overclock to 5GHz.
Itt: cheaper equals better memes
I had a HD7970 GHZ for a few years and driver and game support was rotten. Switch up to a 980 and have noticed nothing but better software support and drivers. Zero problems running 2016 titles at 1080/144hz. I'll send the extra hundred bucks for the card with greater support and adoptions.
>inb4 shill!!!!!!!!!
Nope just a dude with enough money to not need to waste dozens of hours min-max beta drivers and praying to the AMD God for good fortunes to play Far Cry 3 at a decent FPS.
>>341340638
gotcha, thanks my man. Any word on when they'll reveal the 490/x gpus? I haven't been to /g/ in a REALLY long time or paid too much attention since the R9 fury release
>>341340568
>he bought a 6 core
laughinginteljews.png
>>341341201
bruh the 6300/6350 are great CPUs for the price, when did this change?
>>341340932
>10%
Nigga, have you not been on /g/? The 480 is barely as powerful as the 970. It's sad.
>>341320694
i got mines for 50 bucks on craigslist
>>341341018
>>341341018
I'm paranoid as fuck about overclocking to be honest.
>>341341201
Yeah, it was cheaper then a fucking Intel 4 Core, and ran my shit just as well for the most part.
Despite the fact that I leave my PC running for fucking days at a time with no resets or powering down.
>>341340882
The 470 is for the people that were thinking on buying a 960, 370 or 380 before this announcement. AKA, the sub $200 price range budget.
By offering a card that performs as good as a $320 card from the competition, they are offering one hell of an unbeatable deal for this customer base, which you're clearly not part of.
>>341341043
Cool, I've had a 7850 for 4 years now with zero driver problems or other issues.
>>341317945
>tfw riding out my 770 for another generation
i just want a reason to upgrade already
>>341318896
>970 performance at a $150 price point for an actual 4GB of VRAM
>1070 is just titan x performance at a $450 price point but it gets beaten by the 980ti when both are overclocked
>all those AMD plebs
>consoles get new games revealed all week
>pc gets new hardware to play games that are not coming to PC
PC just has Multiplats. I don't get why people choose to game like this
I'm upgrading from a R7-250
How much is a FX6300 gonna bottleneck the RX480? Planning on upgrading CPU soon as well.
As long as I can play modern games, that aren't indies, I'm happy.
>>341341741
PC and PS4 are the way to go unless you are into Nintendo.
>>341341370
it is for multithreaded loads, but ARMA is the opposite.
>>341341436
Worst you could do is fry your already old hardware.
Don't have any experience with OCing AMD CPUs, but it shouldn't be very risky if you read some guides and use common sense.
>>341341870
>FX6300
It won't, just read up on OCing if you are afraid it will.
>>341341370
great CPUs on paper for the price
terrible CPUs in practice for the price
you pay extra for two cores nothing ever uses
who the fuck is ever gonna optimize for 6 cores lmao
>$149 for a 960-970 performance
What's the catch? Seems too cheap to be true
Has there been any word on the overclocking of 470/480?
I got a 7970 still to play vidya
When do I upgrade
Not a total fail if its 80% of the markets price range and games aren't maxing it out 4GB VRAM
>RX 480
>A legitimate option
no.
>>341341741
Too busy going through my hundreds of Steam games
>>341342256
I was wondering this as well. Unless AMD has turned into a charity.
>>341342203
>paying extra
>it's cheaper or the same price as an i3
What the fuck are you talkin about
>>341321545
RX480, $199 for GTX980 performance is pretty damn sweet
>>341325380
seconding this, how much of an upgrade is it
good fucking card though, been punching above it's weight for a long time
>>341342278
wait for 2nd gen polaris
1st gen is often buggy; or dies within 2 years (see R 2xx cards)
>>341341956
>>341341956
My shit got unstable just Locking it at 4.2 and then I sat it at 4 for awhile, then bumped it back up to 4.2 I think after awhile and it was stable.
Those fucking Hyper212 EVOs are godly traditional coolers.
30 Celcius. With only two case fans in a fat ass Fractal R4
>>341342408
>no.
This image is supposed to prove it?
>>341342408
it's the cheapest card on that list by a large margin though
$200 card against a bunch of $400+ cards
>>341317945
>>GTX 970 performance
[citation needed]
>>341318896
>1080
>Worth it unless you wanna play 4K and pay gay amounts of money for a monitor.
NVIDIA is definitely enthusiast tier, but most gamers don't need 4K 60FPS maxed out shit, 1080 does it just fine because it's more than affordable and it still looks pretty damn nice. AMD is looking like the best one for that. Also, the 980ti rivals a 1080 in performance, you may as well stick with that honestly.
>>341342474
it's more expensive than the 4300 which is what you really pay for when you get a 6300 because only 4 cores ever get used (at most)
>>341342408
>It outperforms the 390X for 200 dollars
>Two of them rival the 390X and even the 1080 apparently
Nice me me
I'm thinking of making a babbys first rig with a A10 5870 APU will this new card be able to run with this APU? If it would, I don't think I'd have to worry about upgrading for a while right? How does the APU and GPU combo work?
>>341317945
I have a GTX 750ti. Would this be a significant boost in performance for me?
>>341342256
No Drivers
>>341343334
>Two of them rival the 390X and even the 1080 apparently
Did you meant to say 1070 and 1080?
>>341342408
>It's pretty much a 980 for fucking 200
It doesn't matter to me all that much but come the fuck on dude.
>>341343326
I want to say you have no idea what you are talking about but I don't care to look up any more information on the subject
>>341343351
>I'm thinking of making a babbys first rig with a A10 5870 APU
Don't. Get a cheap i5.
>>341343536
Yes, a considerable one.
>>341343573
Yeah, my mistake. I'm tired, stayed up all night playing meme games.
>>341343351
at least wait for Zen APUs anon if you're going to go down that route
>>341343536
470 = 970
http://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-970-vs-Nvidia-GTX-750-Ti/2577vs2187
>>341343536
Don't do this to me, man, I'm starving.
>>341319894
or get a 770 and call it a win
>>341343536
>that picture
Fuck I'm hungry, good thing I'm in Texas where I can get this kinda BBQStill broke till tomorrow evening though ;_;
>>341343570
At least on Linux the quality of the drivers has been improving by leaps and bounds, but the open source drivers are of course only available on Linux.
>>341343536
>that delicious bread
mmm.
>>341343778
True, there's basically no point buying AMD hardware now until socket AM4 parts start appearing.
>>341321089
If other cards are more powerful and cheaper, it's obvious that lesser cards drop in price.
About o join the Masterrace soon. But problem is, I have no idea what the fuck to buy.
I have no desk, no montiors, no mouse, no keyboard, completely from scratch.
I have a 2k budget, I'd like to be able to run everything at max settings at 60 fps (minimum), can you anons help a retard (with seemingly a lot of money)
>>341343536
hueg
JUST DON'T PREORDER YOU STUPID FUCKS, WAIT TILL PEOPLE HAVE TESTED THEM OUT IN VARIOUS GAMES!
explain this amdrones
rx 480 8gb w/ i7-5960x and 16gb only gets 6.3 on steam's vr test
meanwhile my i7-4790k and gtx 970 with 16gb gets 7.8
>>341344208
>bioshock
>loonix
>tfw probably going to upgrade from fx 6300 and gtx 770 to rx 470 or rx 480 and the i5 6500
Feels good man
>>341339531
First, try unlocking your 290 to a 290X, if it doesn't work, go for a 480, and if it does, sell it for a little bit more than what a plain 290 goes for and get a 480 anyway, it'll be a decent and cooler upgrade that also has the newest GCN features, which happen to really shine if you're into MadVR
If you think a 1440p monitor is happening down the line, make sure you grab the 8GB version, 1080/1200p and under won't exceed 4GB unless you're doing something retarded like using 4k Skyrim texture mods
>got a 970 at the beginning of the year
>hasnt even worked right because of usage drops that I've done everything to fix
>6 months later I've played no intensive games and sub $200 cards are on par with it
I'm going to kill myself
>>341317945
card looks like shit on the inside but still good 9.975/10
>>341317945
I don't trust AMD drivers desu
>>341317945
>mfw my r9 290 broke down
>2 year warranty is already passed
>i only have 690 dollarydoos(canadian)
>don't want to spend 200 on a shitty r9 380 with lower performance
>can't afford to buy 390, cause i still have to pay rent
Just fuck my life up famalam.
>1080p
Literally No reason to buy a 1070/1080, and the AMD 400 series is better and cheaper than older alternatives
>1440p
480 for a year or 2, 1070 slightly better, 1080 for an extra year
>4K
1080 is The only decent performer here, but will be destroyed by the 1080 Ti and Vega 10 cards releasing in 5-6 months
>>341341741
>I have so many games backlogged I doubt I'll ever clear it in the next 3 years
try again console pleb, you can keep your ubisoft trash
>>341345363
AMD clearly thinks there's something to all this Linux stuff. They just committed patches the other day that provide another pretty massive speed increase for OpenGL 4.3 and their Vulkan support is still getting better as well.
>>341345867
I'm sorry you live in Canada
>>341345949
>1080 is The only decent performer here
Or 480 CF
>>341346189
DELETE THIS
>>341345292
yes because SteamVR is a well known benchmark for video cards.
>>341317945
Would it be worth it to buy ONE 490x to replace TWO R290s or should I just get a 1070 to last me longer? I'm tired of crossfire and want a single card.
>>341343640
>I think you're wrong
>I have no idea
>I'm going to give up without fact checking or changing my opinion though
t. Amdrone
who is this supposed to excite?
>>341345823
>using old memes
Where are you guys getting these figures? AMD didn't announce actually prices for the two lower end cards and I can't find any articles that has been updated with MSRPs (just that the whole range would be 99-199), and there are no benchmarks that I could find aside from a single unconfirmed 3d mark benchmark (which the article claims in 100%, but I'd take that with a grain of salt for now).
I'm personally very interested in a 480, but I've had some not so great experiences with AMD's R9 line with screen shaking and video playback corruption.
>>341347070
The market for sub $200 video cards which is huge.
Which gpu brand has less input lag? Amd or nvidia?
>>341347070
Seems like a great time for anyone trying to get a gaming pc.
>>341347070
the majority of the market
people who pay $500 for GPUs need not apply
>>341347070
People who can't/don't want to drop $400 or more for cards. There's a lot of people who can't run modern games decently enough, so this is a big deal for them.
>>341327271
>bringing up a 5 year old shitty console game as a counter argument
>>341347626
input lag is mostly on the monitor end anyway isn't it?
Or if you have degraded cables
>>341346189
>i5-4690k + gtx 480 beats an i7-4790k + 780ti
are you purposely trying to look retarded?
>>341346860
they marketed the card as a vr premium gpu for $200 that's worth $400+
6.3 for the 8gb version and a $1000 cpu is pitiful
again, amd disappoints
>>341327861
>comparing mid range to high end
>>341348180
newer nvidia drivers have more input lag than older ones, i don't know about amd though.
>>341343536
Damn I could totally go for some Rudy's right now.
I kept telling myself for years not to upgrade.
I'm still using a9800GTwith anearly dual coreand2GBs of RAMwith asub-1080pmonitor and mynear 10 year old 1TB 5400RPM HDD
It sounds dreadful, but up until about the release of the new consoles I could still play most everything I wanted, including new releases, if I turned down some settings.
I'm so ready to upgrade.
>>341347626
AMD has asynchronous compute, which minimizes that.
>tfw 980 Tis are $370 now and dropping
feels good
>>341348334
What the fuck is a e-sports gpu?
>>341348460
backup your TB son
doesn't matter what brand you bought dont trust a 10 year old HDD
>>341345994
steam is going after linux hard because they need/want to escape the windows walled garden before the botnet puts them out of business.
>>341347443
>>341347935
>>341347949
>>341348078
so basically people that have no business trying to game on a PC? why not just buy a console instead?
>>341348334
>are you purposely trying to look retarded?
Uh, no, he's pointing out that the way Steam VR gauges VR capability is extremely arbitrary, and isn't a great way to compare gpus
>>341317945
So for my first gaming PC can I use this to get into PC gaming for around $400?
Please help, I want to play with people on PC!
>>341348610
Cheap and low powered, designed to play meme games like LoL that anyone with a toaster can run.
>>341348874
man you nvidia shills do nothing but grasp at straws all day
>>341348874
GPUs used to cost 100-300bux.
nVidia made their shit expensive around 8xxx series.
AMD is making PC gaming great again.
>>341348874
Because consoles suck?
>>341348537
why would you buy one though when they're only a 4% performance boost on an RX 480
>>341342408
surely if you wanted a high end card you'd just buy a 1070 or 1080
>>341349002
Probably not. A solid system, even with that cheap card, is more like 800 bucks.
>>341349164
980 Ti not 980, retard.
>>341348460
>10 year old 1TB 5400RPM HDD
I hope your important shit is on flash drives or dropbox cuz you sittin on a time bomb nigga.Trying this again because my post needs to make sense, jesus fuck.
>rx 480 comes out, sold out immediately
>will have to wait weeks to buy it at a reasonable price
Is this goint to happen?
>>341348334
>are you purposely trying to look retarded?
This guy >>341348941 got my point. Guess its youre whos retarded.
>>341349002
Depends on how cheap ZEN is going to be.
as of now you still need beefy CPU to run GPUs without a bottleneck.
at least i3/ low end FX
>>341349002
Easily, but if you're willing to boost your budget to $450-$500 you can get something really great that should last you for a while.
>>341349319
It absolutely is.
>got 270x last year
i'm mad
Oh boy here we go again
>>341349097
Why not just get a decent gpu then, i dont get this atall. Seems like a stupid decision. when you can just sell them a 470...
>>341344921
logical increments
>>341348334
>esports gaming
How finished are AMD?
>>341349243
>>341349379
>>341349380
I want to get into PC gaming cheap though. I was thinking about using the GTX 750Ti for my cheapo build for 1080p 60fps. But now that this is out...
>>341345292
LOL
Holy shit.
So AMD lied after all.
>>341349535
It's for poor people to play their F2P trash on at an acceptable framerate, getting them to buy a new GPU at all is an uphill battle.
>>341348460
Basically me until a few months ago. It's sad that the game that pushed me to upgrade was ff14.
>>341349525
You missed the multiple Hitman and Overwatch benchmark posts, nvidishill.
>>341323336
i recognize that loli and that anime was total garbage
>>341345292
Mine gets an 8 with an i-5. Feels good man
>>341350187
WILL
>>341349142
Is that what happened?
I remember "high-end" GPU's used to be like $400 max, and then I went to buy a 290x last month and it was fucking $500, like where the fuck did reasonable prices go?
>>341349379
I want to get in on AMD's apu meme
AMD GPU+CPU helping each other out
>>341349726
Like I said, $400 can easily build you a more than capable machine.
The extra $100 would simply help future proof it a bit. At the very least, save around $50 for a 120GB SSD for your OS. Trust me on this one.
how much of an upgrade would this be from an r9 280x (neither my gpu or cpu are overclocked)
>>341349726
You can get Okish PC with Athlon x4, it will do for RX470
>>341350469
I already have an SSD in my laptop. can I use it in my PC?
>>341350468
Zen/Vega APUs will be out for Socket AM4 motherboards next year. If they stick to their current pattern they'll launch for laptops first and then come out for system builders later.
One neat thing is that chips for AM4 have to be SOCs so the boards themselves should be very cheap so if the APUs still top out at $150 it could be possible to build a decent system for less than $400.
>>341350632
If you wipe it, yes.
>>341350560
>pre-Zen AMD CPUs
He'd be way better off with a first gen i5 or i7, even their very latest CPUs still don't have Nehalem IPC.
>>341328217
This. The 480 comes out a day before my birthday and I'll have at least $300 of BDay shekels to spend and I'm definitely getting one, my 7850 2gb can barely get 50-60fps on medium settings in newer games.
>>341348874
The GeForce4 Ti4200 costed $179 at release and it was far faster (more than double the FPS) than any other GPU on the market than the other GeForce4 Ti versions.
>>341349002
Absolutely possible. Use http://www.logicalincrements.com/ and /g/ for help.
>>341351014
first get i5/i7 are fucking 200bux on second hand market.
>>341351258
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Intel-Core-i5-750-2-66GHz-8M-09B-SLBLC-Computer-CPU-Processor-/331782808034?hash=item4d3fcbe1e2:g:uIQAAOSwUuFWx5aZ
???
>>341351242
Logical increments guy is a paid off shill though anon. /g/ conformed that a while ago.
>>341351479
/g/ is my main board and i can confirm that he is not.
>>341351479
and there is any source to this where
>>341348874
Now is a perfect time to build a gaming PC if you own a ps4 and were debating getting an Xbox. You get steam games plus Xbox one games on one platform.
>>341351404
ahh yes, ebay.
I forgot about that option.
>>341341741
So get a console of your choice to go alongside a good PC.
>>341352180
There was a thread a while back where they confirmed prices and knew something was up when some parts were much worse. Turns out They paid him to switch the gpu for theirs when it had more problems.
>>341343536
>>341343536
>All that fucking meat
Holy christ.
Making my goddamn mouth water.
>>341351014
>>341350560
>>341351404
>>341350469
Thanks Anons. Can't wait to get a nice cheapo rig to play with /v/
>>341352441
>things that never happened
He is regularly discussing every piece of hardware for each category on /g/. They whole site was pretty much created by /g/.
>>341344778
>I'm new to PC hardware
If you were familiar with anything you'd see how hilariously wrong you are.
June 29th CAN'T COME SOON ENOUGH
I want to retire my GTX 760, you've been a good card buddy but you're getting old.
I can't wait to make a Witcher marathon with 480
Also does anyone know how long does it take for OEMs to slap on their coolers ? I have a friend in the US who returns on July 11th and i hope they'll be on shelves by then
Why was she saying one was an esports card? The fuck is the difference?
>>341352942
/g/ hates him though.
>>341353175
It means it's only fast enough for MOBAs and Hearthstone.
>>341353175
The system requirements for the most popular mass market PC games is kept low to allow the most people to play them.
Its basically AMD's way of saying 'This is the new 750' without mentioning the competition.
>>341321120
But it just came out like a year ago.
>>341349726
750ti will not get you 1080p 60fps. Do not fall for the $400 PC meme. I highly prefer PC power consoles, yes, but it IS more expensive if you want something that is worthwhile.
It just depends on your preference.
PC: Complete freedom, tons of customizability when it comes to your setup and your games. More expsneive
Console: Cheaper, quick to just buy and play without learning about hardware. Yet very limited.
>>341353175
Because mobas have really low system requirements. Lots of people play LoL, CS and Dota on ancient integrated GPU's. 460 will be literally perfect for such people.
>>341353650
The fuck? You mean its just a normal card or some shit? The fuck? I"m thinking CSGO ready or something? That shits moronic i'm all over /g/ but what she said doesnt make since to even someone whos been building PCs forever
>>341353547
I dont hate him. Didnt notice any hate from community either. Maybe its your wishful thinking, idunno lol.
>>341353782
well then how about this card that AMD just announced?
I just built a rig with 8GB 390 this winter.
This is only for 1080p.
Did I fug up or should I be looking into the new AMD cards?
Is the 8gb 480 a good card to upgrade to from a 280x?
If I want to get a 480 and not wait for the late as fuck Vega, what kind of performance should I expect? 1080 at 60fps?
People compare it to the 980 instead of putting it into more understandable terms so I have no idea how well that one worked.
>>341343778
What's that?
>>341343738
Why should I? Are there even any drawbacks to the APU? I'm gonna get it along with some fast RAM sticks
>>341354159
Sell 390 and buy 480. You literally make money and get a better card in exchange.
>>341348334
>>341348610
>>341349669
>cool & efficient esports gaming
league of lol
>>341354159
Your system is fine, if you want to spend money upgrade your monitor.
>>341354465
Do not get AMD cpus, ever. Single core to core performance is still what matters most in games, AMd has notoriously terrible single core performance. You will feel handicapped as your choices of games will be limited and worrying if this new game you want to play is optimized well enough for AMD. And forget treying to play any older game at a decent framerate.
Only get AMD if you're using it for multicore applications like video or music editing. DO NOT get it for gaming. Get a jewtel cpu when they go on sale.
t. former amd cpu owner
>>341354194
>People compare it to the 980 instead of putting it into more understandable terms
How more understandable can it get? Just look up 980 benchmarks and that's it.
>Was looking at a 970 when I first built this PC
>3.5 hits, decide to wait a bit and my brother's 7750
>Realise there's nothing I particularly want to upgrade for
>Still want a performance boost but any change is either going to be too slight an increase or too much for what I need
>All this hype for the 480
Feels good man.
The october release date is too late.
When are the nonreference 1070s out?
>>341342408
The 480 is basically a GTX 980 for $200, it's an absurdly good fucking deal you homo.
>>341354994
Four days ago
>>341354159
>1080p
>60hz
Nigga join the future. If you're gonna go for 1080p, why not go for a higher framerate? Once you do you'll kick yourself for not doing it sooner
FPS > resolution
>>341354194
If it performs like a 390/390x/980, it will be a decent 2560x1440 card. At least high settings 60fps.
4GB version will probably be good for 1920x1080 for a long time.
>>341355116
Really? I don't see them available anywhere. Asus strix, Evga, etc.
>>341354946
THIS. Please spare yourself the agony, anon. Do not make the same mistake we did.
>>341354946
>AMd has notoriously terrible single core performance.
Only true of Bulldozer and their low-power 'cat' cores. AMD has competed on single-thread performance well in the past vs Intel's high end and Zen seems set to move them back into a more competitive position.
>>341355225
That's good to know I'm getting this shit
>>341317945
>Current gen card that outperforms previous gen card for a cheaper price
>This is impressive
Uh...?
>>341354946
That and it will bottleneck any higher tier cards if you decide to upghrade in the future. (yes TRULY bottleneck, not the buzzword bottleneck that people throw around)
>>341354194
the 480 for all we know right now is nearly the same thing as a GTX 980, just look up gaming benchmarks for the 980 and you have your answers.
>>341355125
resolution > muh Hz.
"muh Hz" is just a marketing technique for monitor manufacturers to sell 1080p panels for a lot of money.
2560x1440 144Hz monitors are getting cheap anyway so you don't have to choose
>>341353547
I browse /g/.
No we don't.
>>341355327
Well hopefully they will, because Intel's price gouging and lazy 'new line' releases are getting ridiculous. There needs to be some copetition already.
>>341354957
>higher numbers are better
What the fuck does that tell me about anything
>>341355225
Thanks, I'll keep my eye on it
I'm on a GTX 770 that I bought expecting to upgrade by buying a second 770 when the price dropped. Instead they fucking discontinued it and prices sky-rocketed (also I'm working with shit-tastic canuckbucks here).
I know that this won't be a significant upgrade but at that pricepoint I'm pretty tempted, do you think making the jump to the RX 470 makes sense bros? Are there better alternatives?
All memeing aside. I've had both AMD and Nvidia cards before and know what to expect, just fine.
>>341353547
>/g/ hates Falcon
Good joke
>>341355603
>maketing technique
So being able to see more FPS is a marketing technique? What the fuck are you on about? I literally notice a drastic difference when using 144hz compared to 60hz, and even 75fps is way smoother than 60. It isn't a 'marketing technique' when you can see the difference first hand.
>>341355754
If you already have a 770, jump to 480 to make it worthwhile
I just bought a 960 for $140, should i try to resell it or is it fine for another year or two?
>>341355924
you notice a way bigger difference from more pixels or having a bigger screen.
144Hz is nice for shooter games, but it doesn't trump image quality and big screen immersion
>>341349142
>nVidia made their shit expensive around 8xxx series.
that's because you're paying for quality, if you're not ready to shell out at least 400 dollarydoos then you should just stick to your consoles
>>341356117
you should RMA it and get the 470x
>>341317945
About damn time Nvidia gets some competition. They charge ridiculous prices for their cards.
Hopefully AMD will keep this up, cause if they do, you may actually get some good Nvidia cards for a sensible price.
>>341349002
Get an i3-6100, it is dual core but kicks the shit out of AMD single core performance and doesn't bottleneck a good GPU in the majority of games.
So get an i3-6100, cheap mobo that atleast supports DDR4 2134mhz (this actually maters for the i3-6100), 8gb 2134mhz-2400mhz RAM, and wait for the AMD 480 on the 29th if you want to build the smartest build, otherwise get a cheaper GPU, but the 480 is looking like a godsend for price/performance ratio, you'll be able to max all games at ultra, 60fps @1080 with it.
>>341355603
>getting cheaper
>cheapest one is 450
>even then you have to have an extremely powerful system to get 100+ fps at 1440p
I'm good with 1080, mate. I've played at 4K/60, and it's not near as enjoyable as 1080p/144. Games are not paintings, games are about motion.
>>341355714
>higher numbers are better
So you didn't look up any benchmarks? You're just going off of the 3dmark in the OP instead of looking up some real world benchmarks?
>>341356290
I hope AMD released their 490x or what ever to compete with the 1080 at the cheaper price point
>>341319190
These are obviously not AMD's new highend cards, those will release later this year.
>>341356362
And I can't get that here or are you just as clueless as I am
AMD has gone bananas and is offering deals that even the most penny pinching Jew couldn't pass up
>>341356152
As someone who's played on a 4K monitor I can say
High framerate + decent resolution >>>> High resolution + decent framerate
I guess it's subjective though.
>want to upgrade to play witcher 3 at 1440p
>all benchmarks use AA and Hairworks (performance killing placebo shit)
well fuck
>>341356182
Are you 12?
Only 10 years ago $400 bought the fastest GPU on the planet. Today Nvidia is pricing their midrange cards at $380.
Even 5 years ago it the super high end cards were only $500.
>>341318896
A 960 has 125% the power of current gen consoles, at $150. A 970 is like 2x that performance.
>>341356704
a 980ti plays Witcher 3 at 1440p for 60fps almost all the time except in certain intensive situation like novigrad in the rain or something
>>341356651
Jesus Christ you are utterly hopeless. Just google "980 benchmarks" and find the ones at your resolution. Higher is better will be FPS unless you're looking up synthetic benchmarks like 3dmark.
>>341356878
>Ti
so does this mean I have to buy the overpriced 1070?
>>341356757
5 years ago we had dual GPUs on single PCB's as the flagship high end card
the 490 and 590 were ridiculous and often double the price of their x80 series counter parts
>>341320803
>price cuts always happen
and then when the price cuts do happen:
>ha, why are you buying the 1070 you fucking poorfag? Buy an 1170 with daddy's money like the rest of us
>>341355953
appreciate the advice bro
>>341357086
>the overpriced 1070
I thought the price point was 330 dollars? the founders edition was 100 dollars more than the regular one
>>341356662
As someone who owns and regularly plays games on a 1440p 144hz monitor I'll tell you you're dead wrong.
Stable 60fps >>> Higher Resolutions >>> Extreme Framerates
>>341318896
too bad a 970 is incapable to running 4k VR
nvidiots have to understand that spending $450 on a graphics card that will become outdated in 3 years is unacceptable.
>>341357310
>330 dollars?
HAHAHH
>>341355603
You're right. 60hz is a scam. Go for the cheap 30hz HDMI cable and you'll be set my friend.
>>341357092
GTX 295 was only $500. HD4870x2 was slightly cheaper.
Imagine Nvidia or AMD releasing a dual GPU for low prices like this today.
>>341357594
the founders edition is 440 so the non-founders is probably 100 less
>>341357720
a regular 295 was not a dual GPU
the 590 was a 900 dollar GPU
>>341317945
hol up, the new Xbone will have 6 tflops and 480 only has 5. Rule of thumb when it comes to #PCMR is to never buy a card less powerful than the consoles.
Is preordering an absolute requirement to get this new card?
>>341320216
You think the plebs here old enough to experience the golden age of gpu price/tech ?
You have mistaken the situation, senpai.
>>341357750
$379-$479
>>341356152
That is entirely subjective.
>>341357881
285 was the single chip. 295 was a dual GPU.
GPU prices were noticeably lower in the 2000s. The 2010s is when the big price hikes happened and flagships breached the $700 mark
>>341358053
no, only Nvidia has issues producing enough cards, which is why the reference card was rename to founders' edition and costs 100$ more
>>341357692
Yes, because he was clearly referring to 60hz monitors.
>>341335064
Same here, but like, it still runs all my games.
I am happy that graphics card performance seems to be moving ahead faster than CPU performance though.
>>341358313
You're right, he was. Refresh rate is a scam. 30hz is literally all you need in order to play. Why would you spend money on expensive cables and monitors when refresh rate is just a gimmick?
>>341358313
>60hz is a scam
>>341358552
>30hz is literally all you need
/v/eddit acting like a retard
>>341358391
GPUs advance quicker because "moar cores" scales almost linearly on GPUs.
For CPUs you don't get this kind of scaling. At least not for gaming workloads.
I have SLI GTX 570s. I wonder if thats any good now, should I upgrade?
>>341358552
Stop being so fucking obtuse. You know what he meant, and trying to drive his argument to extremes, because apparently it threatened you enough that you had to get all defensive, doesn't change that.
>>341358819
>>341359116
Refresh rate is a scam.
Stay poor spending money on everything that's advertised to you, kiddos.
>>341359036
2x RX480 = better than Nvidia's GTX1080, and cheaper.
where my 7950 bros at who also plan on buying the rx 480?
>>341317945
>same performance as a 2 year old mid range card
the future... is here...
>>341359361
yfw you have no counter argument
>>341359407
at half the price.
>>341359268
Fuaaark I thought I was the only one left with that clunker
>>341359407
>>341359461
with full DX12 support. and Hardware async compute, unlike Nvidia's high end cards: 1070 and 1080
>>341359407
>less than 2 years old
>was fastest card on the market until mid 2015
>was $550
>now you can buy same performance for $199
480 is 980/390~ performance for $200
great value but not an upgrade for anyone who has a high end rig from any time in the past two years
meanwhile in camp nvidia
>>341360192
DELETE THIS
and upgrade while I gimp your card with new driver updates.
>>341360189
Are you complaining that a $200 card is not a good upgrade compared to $500 cards from just 2 years ago?
I have a radeon hd 6850. Will these new cards fit in my board? Can I just swap my GPU for a new one without needing to replace anything else?
>>341360709
yeah, you'll be fine.
>>341317945
>amd finally brings out half decent card
>too late for me to care about it
I'll just get a 1070 thanks.
>>341360848
>buying an overpriced, gimped 1080
when do the new amd cpus come out? Will it be good with the new cards?
>>341323516
1070 is 499€ plus shipping from Germany.
What kind of PSU do you need to run 480 CF?
>>341360848
Enjoy spending 450 bucks on planned obsolescence.
>>341360189
Nvidiots have found a way to admit that the 390 outperforms the 970 and still insult it and STILL be wrong
>>341361096
~400W-500W
>>341361096
600w should be fine
I need a new GPU
Do I give in and buy a $529 AUD 390x or wait half a month for the $400+ AUD 480?
>all the casual faggots in this thread that would settle for anything less than max settings at 144 fps
>>341361421
wait for 480. Async computer (hardware support), and DX12.
>>341360643
no, im saying that for most enthusiasts the 480 serves no purpose, it's a mainstream card that raises the bar on the midrange side of things
the 1070 is $380 and performs as well as a 980ti that was $650 which is a similar jump in cost/perf
>seriously considering upgrading my computer
>know a 500 watt PSU will be cheap as anything, not sure about the card, been running on a 750 Ti for about three years now
>this stuff happens
Well how about that.
The fuckign 1070 is a fucking meme. Mine just came in and i am getting the exact same performance I got with the 970 in all of my games.
>>341361246
Spotted the AMD drone.
>mfw i need to get a 1070 or 1080 just because I need them to boost the speed of my programming projects.
If AMD made a package like CUDA with the prices and power of their cards they could easily come and steal the entire GPU accelrated software market, but no
>>341361446
>Dude the sky is the limit for what id spend on video games lmao
>>341361586
You must be doing something wrong because all of the benchmarks show performance above 980 ti.
>>341317945
I've got an XFX R9 290, should I get this?
>>341361552
>1070 is $380
The hell it is. In Sweden a 1070 goes for around 600$
>>341323662
This.
I have a 650 ti and I hadn't seen hoe to upgrade my pc without spending fucktons for some years.
Then the rx 480 was presented.I still don't know how to change cpu/mobo. I know I would miss the comfyness of my C2Q Q9550
>>341361613
they have a max draw of 150W, and an average of a lot lower.
>>341361931
The only game that sees improvements is TW3. Everything else is the same. TW:W, ESO, FFXIV, Far Cry 4, fucking everything has been the same.
>>341362003
wait for Vega, end of this year. otherwise, get 480
>>341362035
it is in america my fellow cuck
you think our goverment gets money from thin air? the giant chain of taxes jacks up the price
>>341362178
There is always this guy
>just wait for the one about to come out bro
When in reality if you get a 1070, a 1080, a 980ti, etc, you are still going to be set for years to come
>>341362349
>get 480
can you read?
>>341353771
You might want to check the date, shut in. It's mid 2016 now.
>>341361016
It's not even in STOCK in the US.
So much fucking bullshit in this topic its hilarious
Your fucking piece of shit 480 is barely comparable to a 970 and this 470 looks on par with a 960
I seriously hope you AMD shills get paid for this
>>341362110
Wrong.
>>341317945
>GTX 970 performance
Where the fuck are AMD cucks getting these numbers?
[citation needed]
>>341362680
Actually right, it really isn't the 980ti whatsoever
Once developers start designing more games around the new framework you'll see better performance, but for now it's the same damn card
>>341362874
>t. triggered nvidiot
>>341361446
>The casual gamers who think caring primarily about graphics makes them hardcore
You're the same as the console fags who only buy the shiniest new releases, just less poor.
>>341362049
Correction: 250w.
You'll need a 600w PSU minimum and they'd better have hefty, split rails for stability.
>>341323662
>>341317945
I have a 1GB 560ti relic from five or six years ago that still runs all modern games but can't hit high settings anymore.
I've been in the market but Nvidia can't manage to stock the 1070 and the 970 is expensive and >3.5GB
Exactly whats wrong with the RX 470?
It's a silver bullet. It delivers great performance for great price.
>>341362890
I'd ask you to prove me wrong, but you can't because your source is your ass.
>>341362949
>thread about graphics cards
>getting ass mad about graphics discussion
And I'm not allowed to laugh at poor people now? Fuck off
>>341363017
>Exactly whats wrong with the RX 470?
nothing, nothing's wrong with the 480 either. but people don't know shit, and have brand loyalty, so they talk shit.
>All these AMD drones lying their asses off in this thread
So this is the power of AMD astroturfing.
>>341362927
>>341362874
Actually the only reason why I haven't put the money away to get one at the end of the month is there is no legitimate comparison. I'm pretty sure any second now someone will post that chart comparing them that was debunked as fake.
>>341363093
Considering you were the one who claimed it outperformed the 980ti in everything the burden of proof is on you hotshot
>>341357582
Why? Now they could sell the 970 right before this card comes and get SLI.
>>341363257
then just stfu and wait for more benchmarks.
>>341362035
and do you REALLY think the 480 will be $200 for you?
I'm too old for this shit
I should really stop browsing /v/, the posts in this thread reminds me of the shit I wrote when I was 12.
>>341362035
>>341363398
it's because nvidia lies about MSRP
>>341363601
Thankfully when we were twelve it wasn't considered a goal to get quoted the most times.
>>341363664
no dipshit, Nvidia SETS the "manufacturer's suggested retail price", vendors can choose to ignore it or not
>>341363017
I mean you have to realize that you will be paying for old performance, so in a year or two that 470 wont be hitting what you want either
>>341363664
>I don't know what MSRP is
This is the type of person that is trying to get you to buy his budget hardware.
>>341363823
>7 FPS difference in the single game that the 1070 crushes
>no source
>>341364160
>>341364053
>nvidia sets an unreasonable MSRP
>has production shortages
this is how you do false advertising and get away with it
>>341364290
Reminder that you got BTFO
>>341364065
Anon I use a card that came out when some of the people who post here legally were 12.
I could get a 770 and triple my performance.
>>341362680
Wrong? How the fuck am I wrong you fucking faggot mongoloid. I did benchmarks before I installed my 1070 with the 970, then did the same benchmarks after. There was no framerate increase in any of those listed games outside of The Witcher 3. Fucking get the cock out of your mouth you nigger
>>341328217
For the price difference I'd agree with you but I'd imagine much like myself some others are stuck with a lower watt psu and are factoring that in. I also don't play many new games and want them quieter fans that I imagine the 470 will pack. It will be a nice upgrade from my 260x when I get around to it
>>341364736
Reminder that you are super hyped about the next generation of cards that you literally can't tell any difference in performance in and will even pay more money for
>tfw playing witcher 3 on a gtx 470
>>341317945
I hate graphics cards that wipe the floor with last generation cards for a pittance.
Fuck, AMD.
>>341361446
You forget that over half of /v/ is NEET
I enjoy my PhysX features, so I'm going with nVidia again this time. I'll finally be able to leave it on in Borderlands 2, always killed my poor GTX 285.
>>341355273
That's because nvidia rushed to market to beat AMD to the punch, so that they can compare their high end 1070/80 cards to AMD's low-end 470 and 480 and BTFO AMD in advertising, even though the cards aren't meant to be compared to each other.
There's not enough 1070/80 cards to actually meet market demands because the cards were rushed out though, so the prices are even higher than they're supposed to be, and it'll likely stay that way until at least October.
Meanwhile AMD is grabbing the vast majority of the market at the $150-$250 pricepoint with cards effectively comparable to the 970/980 in performance, and in some benchmarks even comparable to the 1070/80; e.g. crossfire 480's at a lower price and better performance.
nvidia is winning the advertising/PR war like they always do, but AMD's offerings are a fucking kick in the teeth to nvidia right now. They've got a very good product for the price point that makes up the majority of the market and nvidia doesn't have a decent competing card there. For example, a gimped 970 that can't do async compute vs a 470 that can and comes with more memory, and does it with lower TDP and 60-70% of the cost.
nvidia got fucking rekt by AMD's 400 series cards in the biggest market that matters.
>>341364318
or it's like literally every other GPU or hardware launch ever and it takes a few months for things to even out due to high demand
>>341363136
>And I'm not allowed to laugh at poor people now? Fuck off
Not him, but that's not discussion, that's just bullying. And this is a bully-free zone.
>>341366291
die in a fire poorfag
>>341321120
tfw living in NZ
tfw only just bought a 750 Ti because it was the only thing i could afford
tfw this new amd card will prob be 2 times what it is in america
>660 ti
>just bought a 1440p monitor
>have to lower settings to console standards just to get 60fps at native res
>mfw
What should I do, comrade-tachi? I was thinking of waiting for the GTX 170 ti, but that probably won't be out for a year.
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