Modern day VR is like motion control games in the 90s and 00s before the Wii and PS Move came out. It's a clunky gimmick that won't see widespread use in an effective manner for years.
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i doubt many people think differently
great tits
If people want VR to survive, they should separate from vidya. It'll stay a fad that'll die and will likely drag down any potential gameplay and capabilities
It should be another platform altogether, maybe another way to use the internet but keep it away from vidya.
I WANT MY EDEN and VR PETS, YOU FUCKS.
>>341303298
>discuss
No need
You pretty much nailed it.
ITT: People who haven't tried 2016 VR/ children that think the tech giants working on VR arent 50 steps ahead of them in future market speculation.
>>341303298
VR is only going to take off for porn.
>>341304383
Those are fake, though.
>what people who don't own a VR headset think
HAH, VR is DOA
>what people who do own a VR headset think
Fuck this console war exclusive bullshit. Motion controller / body tracking aside at the end of the day the headset functions as monitor. There is literally no reason to flood the market with exclusives other then the greed of Oculus/Facebook by exploiting poor indie/small teams by throwing wads of cash at them.
I don't blame the devs as it was rough for me the last four years working with oculus dk's but Unreal/Unity/HTC have plenty of programs setup to fund you. There's no reason to sell out for Oculus' exclusives.
>>341307901
This. It'd be porn or internet browsing world like Cyber Sleuth
>>341308063
Wholeheartedly agree, anon.
>>341303298
VR is what gamers have been waiting for literally since gaming became a thing. To immerse yourself into the game environment 100%. I don't understand this VR=gimmick bullshit.
>>341309051
Because that's what it is. You're strapping a monitor to your face and standing there. You look stupid playing. Spacing around you is now an issue. Fatigue and strain are now factor.
It's just a silly replacement for a monitor and keyboard, except now you have to smartphone displays stuck on your eyes. Use it to have fake sex with a porn stars video and move on.
>>341309502
It's blindingly obvious that you've never tried modern VR. I had a friend that was adamant about the "monitor strapped to face" thing, and they 100% changed their mind after using the HTC vive. Also, if you think how you look while using VR is going to stop people from delving into the tech, you need to reevaluate some things in life.
>>341309051
Would rather pick a cool guy and perform sick combos than walk around like IRL tbqh, senpai
>>341309502
Our weakest link (the video game aspect) has just fired it's first console war shots and this joker still thinks we're a small handful of gooftroops strapping phones to our face...
>>341306269
Don't worry anon Porn will keep VR alive and improve it. It's really the only way VR just werks. It's a good middle ground until we can get our fuck bots.
>>341310515
>blindingly obvious
the only thing obvious here is how sweet this party is.
>image.jpg
Hello Rebbit!
>>341308569
How about you keep your fucking mouth shut. Pic bitchin' related. Read and weep you stupid anon bullshit sucking piece of shit
All VR will do is turn vidya into a work out.
>>341310679
I don't even care what these SLIMY maggots say!
I WILL have my hats in VR!
>>341311373
Is that why people hate it? Nerds don't want to move?
>>341309502
Well, it's still in the early stages of technology. Without doubt within few years we'll have "second gen" headsets with superior resolution that will be much closer to monitors/limits of human vision while being lighter, and the technology will continue evolving beyond that.
And if VR headsets don't make a breakthrough, another technology like brain-computer interfaces will.
>>341311612
Yes, and it will attract even more normalfags.
>>341310895
Why can't VR just fuck off from vidya to porn and cyberspace like this?
They are sitting on gold to make internet browsing cyberspace and they still stick to ruining vidya
>>341311289
I don't even understand what you're s triggered over.
>>341303298
There's nothing to discuss.
You're wrong.
It is already seeing widespread use.
What you're saying is it'll be years before its super duper cheap. Like any new technology.
You want to talk about clunky and impractical, try the $100,000 arcade machines that could only play shit that the lawnmower man would call low tech.
Wrong. Modern day VR is the evolution of the shitty VR we had with the virtual boy and its ilk.
>>341307901
From VHS to Bluray, whatever the porn industry adopts becomes standard.
>>341312524
Keyword: shitty
Evolved shit is still shit, kike.
>>341312707
>monitors are media
Might as well bundle each on with a fleshlight.
I'm kind of glad Sony is pushing VR. This way normalfags can finally see for themselves that VR is garbage and we can finally move on from this meme.
So we have Occulus, Sony, and Vive. Are there any other ones coming? Because this will get ridiculous if they all have exclusives.
>>341312992
VR isn't just a monitor. It's an input device.
>>341313067
But anon, VR platforms are the Future!
>>341303298
Yeah, we know. But the thing is, you can't just invent a technology and expect it to be perfected and for everyone to make excellent use of it.
People have to learn and adapt to it, and that'll take time.
>>341313067
The open source one
>>341312990
By that logic nothing ever gets better so you may as well kill yourself.
>>341313067
Razer have one coming out.
>>341312990
>Said the evolved ape.
Can't make this shit up.
>>341313710
Yeah, niggers and dune coons are still violent as cave monkeys from pre-stone times..... your point?
Wait a second, I just realized something.
Everyone only acts like they are hype for the garbage video game gimmicks, they just want the VR porn.
Man, that's genious!
>>341313067
>can't afford 20 different VR sets
Fucking poorfags.
I'm not the only one who thinks these VR headsets look like shit, am I?
I don't mean when you wear them and what you see, I physically mean, they look retarded as fuck. You strap a box on your head. It looks like some sort of tacticool sleeping mask.
They could have made it look something like pic related (which is literally a motorbike helmet).
You could have walked around looking like the fucking Stig or some Tron Legacy reject, but instead they made you look like some tacticool tired person.
>>341312707
But didn't the porn industry side with HD-DVD?
>>341303298
I went to the latest convention Niggri was at.
She wasa lot like you /v/
>>341314352
Picture related. Would you rather look like the guy on the left, or the one on the right?
The first person to make a fashionable VR headset is going to become a fucking billionaire.
>>341311930
> 4chan is a seedy crack den in the corner of the bad part of town
>>341314862
Google?
>>341314352
I doubt headset aesthetics are something they're overly concerned with considering you're going to look ridiculous wearing one of these things anywhere in your house or in public no matter what, even if it just looks like a motorcycle helmet. It's going to make walking in on people jacking off much more hilarious.
>>341314352
I've read some stupid posts in my time here.
Whilst stupid, yours isn't say mlp users wishing Equestria was real levels of stupid. Just average stupid.
>>341307982
Okay?
>>341314862
Who the fuck cares what you look like when you're moving around in a virtual space you autist?I agree that the current form needs improvement and a helmet would be sick as hell though
>>341314973
4chan would be really fucking annoying. At least we can easily ignore the retards or not five them attention when it's all text.
>>341315260
If it was designed like a motorcycle helmet, they could make it do something like this with the screen.
It'd still look stupid if you see someone fapping, but at least they don't have to completely take it off, just flip the screen up.
The first VR headset to adopt a design like this is going to be the one that succeeds.
>>341315506
Because in the future when we're all wirelessley plugged into the VRnet do you want a box strapped on your face or some cool looking helmet?
Someone should start some kind of business and customize these VR headsets. You'd become a millionaire overnight. If I had the expertise to do it, I'd have a kikestarter page up for it already.
>>341313067
The Google one too.
>>341303298
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>>341312990
Let me guess. You guys range in age from 12 to 17yrs old. Rely on your parents for all you have and enjoy Anime and Japanese games..Oh of course I am right on this.
There is a reason you all think as you do, and yet none of you can see that reason.
That is amusing.
>>341316057
We're up to six now. Hopefully half of them die fast.
>>341313067
Right now it's just Oculus and the obvious Sony that are dealing with exclusives. Sony being a no brainer since it's their console. Oculus on the other hand basically has their backs against the wall with their multifucked launch.
>I will never get to rail Nigri no matter how /fit/ I get
>>341316028
So you own a Rift or Vive currently? How many hours have you logged on your device?
>>341316815
I don't. I'm saying if they make the headset aesthetic as fuck it's going to quadruple sales and win them this whole VRwar shit.
Man, if I could I'd literally make a business customizing them like some people do with customizing controllers. I got no idea how to do it but if I could I would and I'd become rich as fuck because of it.
>>341317057
No, no you wouldn't.
Literally no one cares what they look like playing VR.
>>341317272
You underestimate how much console gamers enjoy ricer shit. They are perfectly willing to pay hundreds of dollars for a customized controller and massively inflated prices for a shitty paint job for their console.
You think they wouldn't eat up aesthetic looking VR headsets?
>>341317057
Name a guy who customizes controllers who is rich as fuck as a result of it?
I think your idea of rich as fuck is most adults idea of struggling to pay your grownup bills.
And by your comments it was obvious you don't own one. And I am betting have not actually tried a commercial release version of either as of yet.
I own both, one on loan to a friend. 2nd, 3rd gen will only make it better, but as it stands now, they're pretty damn good.
>>341316463
Someone's triggering for bait
>>341317851
You do know there is literally entire businesses set up that do nothing but customize consoles/controllers right?
Not just a guy, an entire business with it's own offices and factory for producing customized parts.
>>341303298
post her 4head
>>341317883
haha..oh the tried and true 'projection defense'. The literal heaviest weight weapon a kid who has been correctly identified pulls. I see I hit a homer with my initial summation. I am pretty good at the plate.
>>341317764
No one pays hundreds of dollars for a customised controller.
What you're talking about would be upwards of a thousand, if not more, on a single peripheral device. Especially if you consider each piece is bespoke.
>>341318218
You do realise "just a guy" can mould his own parts using household materials right?
No factory is needed.
>>341318218
Sure I do Evil controllers, The Controller Shop..etc.
Does not change my point of your perception of them being rich as fuck as a result of it.
Your idea of rich is really not rich. I invite you to contact the owners of the companies you are thinking of and ask. They are used to questions I am sure.
>>341313067
>So we have Occulus, Sony, and Vive. Are there any other ones coming? Because this will get ridiculous if they all have exclusives.
Microsoft said they aren't going to make their own. They said that Scorpio would use third party headset(s).
http://www.wired.com/2016/06/xbox-vr-scorpio-phil-spencer/
>But when you do play VR on Project Scorpio, what exactly will you be putting on your head? Spencer isn’t saying, but it won’t be made by Microsoft. “Right now we are not focused on a first-party VR hardware device,” he says. He didn’t call out any particular headset that might plug into Scorpio, but noted that Microsoft hoped to “enable many hardware manufacturers to make progress there.” So it might be a BYOHMD situation. Maybe you even already own your Xbox VR headset.
>>341318406
>No one pays hundreds of dollars for a customised controller.
A simple recolour will run you $80-90 for a controller that would normally be $40 or so. More complex customizations can easily go into the hundreds of dollars range.
>>341318613
It's not just the case. They'll replace any part of the controller you want, from the shell to the buttons, some parts (buttons and sticks) can even be made of fucking metal.
These aren't small businesses, and it's so profitable even Microsoft took it up now or did you miss the part at E3 where they were letting you customize and buy your own Xbone controller?
>>341319089
Define rich. Because these companies are pulling in millions a year. I'd consider having a million rich by anyones standards.
>>341314365
Nope
>>341307982
great tits
>>341318406
People pay $159 for the xbone elite and that looks like shit. You must be living under a rock to know nothing about the custom controller market.
>>341319278
Have you heard of the terms 'overhead' and 'operating costs'
If you own a company that does 1mil in sales. You as the owner did not actually make a 1 million dollars. You do realize this right?
>>341319278
More complex customisations such as adding buttons.
The reason it costs so much is the bespoke nature of it. Its the fact that its a cottage industry with one or two people doing it, not factories producing components en masse.
I guarantee that Microsoft's option will be cheaper not simply to compete, but because they can afford to build the components end masse where the other competitors can't.
>>341319861
>It's 1 or 2 guys doing it from home
Picture related. It's the factory for The Controller Shop.
Man, why the fuck are you guys always so contrarian?
>>341303298
Sounds exactly like the last two generations of VR.
Whoodathunk it would fail again for the exact same reasons
>>341303454
I still think it's funny when /v/ thinks the rest of the world agree with you. I'm not saying you're wrong, but surely you understand that the opinions people on /v/ have are usually not popular
The only problem with it right now is how expensive it is. Granted, this is coming from a poorfag. Regardless it looks promising and too many fags here want something to fail to feel slightly superior to like usual.
>it should be like a motorcycle helmet
it's adorable how none of you have worn a motorcycle helmet
>>341303298
it's like 3d in cinemas
the first 3d with those red and blue glasses was utter shit
In 2009 or so they finally figure out a proper way for 3d cinema
and it's still shit because its annoying and impractical. VR will never be more than just a gimmick like 3d cinema
>>341321747
Except vr and vidya in general is more immersion based. Not to mention that 3d itself has been done well with the 3ds.
>>341320617
OK, so you've just proven you're retarded.
Well done I guess.
>>341303298
fuck off baldy
>>341322642
true, but the impractical argument still stands. In cinema it's just the stupid glasses issue; in VR it's basically everything you do in normal vidya; walking around, using/interacting with objects. Walking around alone would either require a huge contraption on which you can freely walk/run and jump (and maybe even getting into vehicles?), or you would have to use a controller which 1.) you cant see 2.) kills immersion to at least some degree. And if not that, games would have to be specifically tailored to fit VR, so: you cant move around, you cant use more than 1 object etc. It would basically bend gameplay to fit the limitations of VR.
>>341323869
>imp!ying games aren't always bound by the limitations of their systems
>>341303298
so like the wii and ps move they will move out of the way for real controllers in the end no matter what
i dont know why they call it vr
its just a wii taped to your face
stupidest shit
>>341323869
Why do you need to see your controller? Do you stare at your hands the entire time playing games?
There is literally nothing wrong with using a controller in VR as even 2D games are plenty immersive as is.
Furthermore hand controllers pretty much nullify that argument.
You already don't physically walk around playing 2D games so that is a non issue. Have you actually played anything in VR yet?
>>341325361
I have not, so I've yet to see how much that is true. I could be wrong, but intuitively think those would be some problems inherent to VR.
>>341324129
My problem here is that the limitations are rather drastic compared to what we're already used to. But shit, like I said, I'd have to try it.
VR is pretty great, tbqh
I'm content with the current state of things and my only gripe is oculus holding games hostage. Fuck me if I'm going to install oculus runtimes, shit sounds like wearing a brony badge to get into a con.
>>341327479
The biggest problem I had with VR is that if you're playing something that requires movement it's easy to forget about stuff around you like furniture. It's a little too immersive in that regard.
And that Oculus is shit and doesn't let you adjust the distance between the lenses and your eyes so I can play without glasses/contacts. That alone is enough to make me get a Vive.
>>341327479
I'm pretty sure PlayStation VR will work with a controller. At best that's a screen swap from TV to eye screens.
>>341303298
The only clunky part is the corded headset. If they made them wireless and weightless it would be perfected.
>>341314565
She's depressingly nice and down-to-earth
Depressing because she reminds you there are genuine 10/10s out there that you will never be with
>>341328879
>wanting laggy shit on your face
Enjoy motion sickness.
>>341328874
It's going to primarily work with the controller as well as the psmove controllers/ps eye combo for other games. But yeah, eye screens with no dead zones while looking to the sides is a huge upgrade in terms of immersion
>>341318357
I have no idea what you two are quibbling about but holy shit you type like someone with weapons-grade aspergers
>>341311930
desu once you're talking about VR the distinction between vidya and everything else falls off a bit more. As in, pretty much any technological or algorithmic developments that are useful for games will also be useful outside of games, and vice versa. Same with porn.
It's not like PCs where fancy 3d graphics are pretty much only important for making games and movies
>>341314565
How much of a slut is she really?
>>341333728
She's not (anymore).
Though who knows if the stories are true for how she used to be.
She exists in this weird place where she's just totally fine with people ogling her and even jokes about it and is totally open about it, but isn't actually a slut. It doesn't come off as a tease either.
She's just confident and hot I guess.
This huge push for VR reminds me of a few years ago when TV's of all kinds pushed HARD for 3D and how 3D was a gotta-have.
Some 3D stuck, but most didn't. That's what's going to happen again. Everyone hops onto the VR bandwagon, lots of people get dysentery, and a few strong people get to Oregon.
>>341314352
I think the helmets are okay if you're going for total immersion and in a private space. Maybe somewhere that you're sitting back in your chair. It probably blends in after a while.
>>341334274
she used 'sex sells' and created a career out of being racy while cosplaying
she sucks
>tfw you'll never be with a hot woman with Star Wars lingerie
Genuinely makes me want to die
Man, as long as I can fuck hot anime girls with VR, everything is gonna be alright.
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>>341303298
This broad just needs to start doing porn.
>>341303298
She can force choke my chicken any day.
