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>tfw these games are going to flop due to 3ds piracy becoming rampant
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>>341238609
that's only one factor

the west is way too casual for Dragon Quest games

the games are way longer than 6 hours
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Are you talking about in the West
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I will buy them anyway
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>>341238712
Obviously.
Japs don't pirate games like western thieves do.
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>>341238609
Just like all DS games flopped, amirite?
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>>341238838
DS was much more popular than the 3DS, anon
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I'm a piratefag but I'll probably end up buying it. Hopefully we'll get Joker 3 if a lot of people get it instead of pirating it.
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>>341238609
>>tfw these games are going to flop due to 3ds piracy becoming rampant on /v/
FTFY
I only hear about piracy here and almost all the 3ds owners I know don't know about pirating. I have (just a little) hope that this will sell well. I'm buying both.
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>>341238609
I can't wait for VII
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>>341238609
Name a single game that was popular as fuck but flopped because piracy.
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>3ds piracy

Like the 10 people pirating here?
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>>341239157
Most people would be afraid of any risk of bricking their system unless it was a plug into your pc and click a button kind of pirating.
I just wanted to give my 3ds a little bit more life but ended up just abandoning it again.
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>>341238609
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>>341239157
Virtually everyone with a 3ds on /v/ pirates don't kid yourself
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Doesnt matter, they already sold 5M in Japan alone
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>>341238609
>3DS piracy
>rampant
Is this a joke?
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>>341239417
3DS piracy is easy as fuck, m8

come to China
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>>341239417
>3ds piracy
>not rampant
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>>341238609
Oh what a fucking travesty two more creatively bankrupt frankenstein JRPGs will flop because nobody bought them

Oh wait we can just blame the pirates for people not giving a fuck about shitty games

I remember when /v/ used to be good
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>>341239157
>>341239417
You have no clue how easy it is to pirate shit on the 3DS. Even a fucking toddler can do it. There is hundreds of sites that you can just download 3DS games from.
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>>341239584
(you)
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>>341239592
>>341239513
>>341239509
Piracy on 3DS is irrelevant and I ever only heard about it on /v/.
But feel free to name a single 3DS game that sold poorly because of piracy.
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>paying for games
what are you rich or something?
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>>341239592
Downloading 3DS games is easy but the steps to unlock it is not

t. a guy with a modded 3DS
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>>341239769
It's both amusing and sad watching pirates try and downplay how cancerous they are
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>>341239769
Anon of fucking course no game has sold horribly on the 3DS because of privacy considering piracy has only been a thing since early last year and barely any games for the 3DS has came out this year. Dragon Quest is a extremely niche series and most of the fans are at least knowledgeable about hacking and privacy. Because of that combined with DQ generally poor sales over here, that could make both games a complete and utter flop.
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>>341239917
I'm not a pirate, I'm making fun of them for thinking they're far more important than they actually are.
See their FE boycotting that ended up with Fates being the best selling game in the series by far.
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>>341238609
I'm pirating them. Problem?
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You are going to buy Maribel's game, right /v/?
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>>341240427
Good so we can blame it on you fucks when the game flops
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>>341240065
how much of a faggot do you have to be to be a dragon quest fan and pirate it when you know the series is on lifesupport in the west.
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>>341240619
If they flop it will be due to Square Enix not marketing them. They choose to market the shit out of that embarrassing garbage FF15. Not my fault.

Bring Seth Green back and they might sell like 9
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>>341240725
When have pirates ever been intelligent people
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ld5KrP-5kxQ
>tfw no commercial for VII/VIII
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>>341238609
I'll buy ten thousand copies to combat piracy.
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>>341238960
>I'm a piratefag but I'll probably end up buying it.
you know you won't
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>>341238609
Yeah, like Fates right?
Oh wait...
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>Wanting a game to flop.

You guys act like a bunch if whiny nigger bitches. How about we look forward to another awesome installment of the DQ series.

> B-but its Nintendo!!!!

So fucking what. A good game is a good game no matter what system its on.
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>>341240976
Thanks, Donald Trump
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Can't wait to play 3 DQ this year!
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>>341241043
>A good game is a good game no matter what system its on.
top kek. DQ8 is worse for being on 3DS
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>>341241136
It's worse for being on the best system this gen?
Go back to your delusion general, vitafaggot.
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>>341241136
>More enemies
>More characters
>More gear that shows on the characters in battle
>More endings
>Extra post content
The one and only bad thing is graphically isn't as good. Fuck you DQ8 is fucking amazing and 3DS is even better.
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>>341238609
yet mobile version of 7 will have higher resolution and fidelity plus better music
and besides ios games sell
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>>341241492
Yeah, in bizarro world.
Phone ports are the most pathetic and miserable garbage that has ever happened to DQ, a fucking joke.
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>>341241492
>DQ
>iOS
Fuck that
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>>341241593
uh,this is from square enix officially
the phone version of 7 will have bettter music and run in 1080p
compare that with 3ds.
sure the 3ds will have better controls but visually the phone one looks better and sounds better too
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>>341238609
I've had em pre ordered on Amazon for months
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>>341241136
You illogical niggers are getting old as fuck.

> hurt durr down with nintentodllers! Sonyfags for life!!! Amirite guys!!??
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>>341241718
>source: my ass
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>>341241292
B-but muh graphics
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>>341241718
>better music
What?
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>>341241718
>sure the 3ds will have better controls but visually the phone one looks better and sounds better too
So you mean the 3DS has better GAMEPLAY
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>>341241718
Yes, phone ports of DQ and FF are official garbage, this is a well known fact.
Plus DQ 7 makes great use of 3D and plays great on the 3DS.
I'm sure the western DQ fanbase loves mobile gaming tough.
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>>341241292
>more reskinned bossfights
>more awful looking armor that is worse than the hero default look
>shitty jessicafag ending
meh

Only worthwhile addition is the new party members. The 3DS version is so underwhelming I might not even waste my time pirating, after all I have the superior original copy to play anytime I want
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>>341241862
Everyone who actually likes video games should hate mobile gaming.
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>>341241708
what kind of name is Ushi?
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I'll purchase VII.

Not sure about VIII, I played VIII not too long ago on PCSX2 and it looked gorgeous, I don't think I could bother with a semi-open world on a 3DS.
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>New Fire Emblem breaks series sales records
>but piracy

If a games good enough people will buy it legitimately
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>>341242006
Fates wasn't good
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Is 7 good?
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>>341240728
Ever since 8. Square sort of knows that they are going to loose money on DQ titles. Since the game does have a fanbase, it still doesn't have the numbers that Final Fantasy does in the US. So they really release these in English for the sake of having them in English because the japanese side of square finds these games to be of importance.
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>>341238609
>3ds piracy becoming rampant
Maybe in the wildest dreams of the vitagenner that spams it daily.
In the real world, no one cares about piracy
People love collecting and supporting the 3DS.
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>>341241789
here is the source http://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/688276-dragon-quest-vii-fragments-of-the-forgotten-past/72527238
a japanese guy compared them.
also you could try it yourself on a jailbroken i phone and compare it to the 3ds version
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>>341239509
China loves DQ though

They are getting Dragon Quest X in PC soon
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>>341242093
Nice boogyman
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>>341242112
So a bugged mess.
Just like every other SE phone port.
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Well I'll buy them.

I mostly just pirate ripoff DLC.
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>>341241897
>more reskinned bossfights
Wrong.
>more awful looking armor that is worse than the hero default look
Hot opinion you got there.
>shitty jessicafag ending
There are also additional cutscenes with backstory of the hero, Medea and other characters.
And that anon forgot fast alchemy and no random encounters.
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>>341241718
>>341242112

This guy again with his stale shitposting
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>>341242239
no,the guy said that framerate is better than 3ds,the music is better and also draw distance aswell,something not possible on weak hardware of the 3ds
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>>341242419
You're simply retarded.
The game runs perfectly on the 3DS and SE phone ports are a joke.
This is a fact.
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>>341242324
>Wrong.
Nice cherry picking the one new boss, why don't you post piss filter evil Jessica and the other rehashed bosses? Retard.
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>>341242460
im sure it does but the phone version runs,looks and sounds better.
this is an official fact and your butthurt can't change it
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3DS piracy is a thing now? Last I heard it was only one card that only worked on certain firmware and could only be written to once.
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>>341242791
You've been living under a rock
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>>341242791
3DS Piracy is so good you can literally steal game directly from Nintendo's servers and they can't do shit about it
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>>341242856
I haven't had any reason to pick my 3DS up again in years. Is it easier now?
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>>341242643
He's not the only not reskinned boss.
And no one denied that the game has harder version of story bosses, it was you who claimed there were only reskins.
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>>341242918
How so? Care to explain?
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>>341243094
Look the shit up yourself.
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>>341240427
Find your marbles yet you fat fuck?

Btw, rufio is still dead
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>>341239404
Nobody gives a shit about japan when we're talking about ENGLISH versions, dumb fuck.
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>>341240892
7 got one, numbnuts.
I don't know about 8 though.
Kinda doubt it, but I haven't kept u-
Oh shit, I guess it did.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dNj-iYfvNGk
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>>341238609
i hope they come out this year. i never got to play dq7 on ps1 and it's not on psn so i guess i never will. i tried emulating 8 but i was finding it troubling to find a sweetspot in my settings.
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>>341245112
DQ7 3ds is rumored to get its release literally today at Nintendo event
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>>341245187
Forgot are they going to play DQ7 today or tomorrow?
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>>341245187
Well, let's see.
I'm really hoping they put it at a better time, because as mentioned, SE has done literally ZERO advertising for it.
>>341245112
>dq7 ps1
Just emulate it. I'd say it's just about different enough from 3DS to warrant playing twice if you're up for it. Be prepared for REALLY shitty CG cutscenes every 50 hours though.
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>>341244563
Where were you when the japanese rating system killed fanservice?
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>>341238609
I'm learning runes so maybe in 4 or 5 years I can play them on their native language, so I don't care about western piracy.
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>>341238609
Good

Squeenix doesn't deserve a single cent
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>>341245373
Shitposting on /v/.
>I literally posted proof of censorship when it was first revealed
>nobody on /v/ believed me claiming I was full of shit
Who's laughing now, assholes?
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>pirating 3ds games

How poor can you even be?
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Pirates wouldn't be an issue if nintendo didn't force creators to remove content out of their games, simple as that.

You can argue that people pirate games regardless but I didn't even buy the new FE because of that awful company decision.
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>>341245554
>You can argue that people pirate games regardless
They do. No matter how much money they have, faggots will always try to get stuff for free.
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>>341245554
Nintendo didn't do shit to Dragon Quest.
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>>341238609
What if I pirate games that doesn't have a chance of localization like Terry's Wonderland?

SE has made clear that they don't have any desire to localize or let Nintendo localize the other 5 DQ games, I would've gladly pay for them if they were available here.
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>>341245685
They fucking region lock their consoles and that's the main reason why we can't play DQ.
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>>341245685
Yeah, technically Cero is to blame here.
>>341245758
Not him, but I honestly wonder how much of DQMr and DQM2r is in Joker 3. They seem pretty similar, all things considered, but Joker 3 seems to be taking it to the next level. I'd love for the newest game to have ALL monsters from past games, but it seems like they never do that 100% from what I've seen. Maybe I'm wrong. I hope I am.
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>>341245861
Not him, but good point.
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>>341245861
No, the main reason is that you can't read moon.
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>>341245992
Not him, but how does that even matter when you buy a local 3DS?
Nobody wants to fucking import an entire system.
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>>341246108
You could play 7,8, J3 and M1&2 already with an hacked 3DS.
But you don't because you can't read moon.
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>>341246417
>hacked 3DS
Yeah, way to support the franchise, asshole.
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>>341246476
I'm just pointing out how region locking isn't the main issue.
You could pirate the game AND buy the japanese versions if you wanted to support the franchise.
But you don't because you can't read moon.
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>>341238609
This isn't going to stop me from pirating it.

We don't need more generic JRPG shit, so it's not like I care or something.

_________ :^) _____________
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>>341238609
Is Dragon Quest one of those JRPG series where the games are completely unrelated to one another?
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>>341247149
Honestly, the retards that ask this make me wonder:
How many fucking series do you THINK are completely related to one another that this question has to be asked so many damn times?
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>>341247149
No.
1 2 3 and 4 5 6 are trilogies.
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>>341247260
Not him, but I'm glad this franchise is a failure in the west just because of faggots like you.
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It will flop anyway because DQ games don't sell well in west like FF
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>>341247383
I'm asking a serious question here.
I myself can't even think of five series where every fucking game in the franchise is related to one another, requiring you to start from the very first entry.
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>>341247524
You're retarded
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>>341247437
So FF sales are the Not-Flop trashold now?
Wew lad, I guess every JRPG that wasn't Pokemon flopped then.
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>>341238609
>rampant
3DS piracy is not nearly as rampant as PSP and DS piracy. Hacking your 3DS is still not as safe as hacking a Wii and there is so few homebrew available it's not even totally worth it.
FE: Fates' sales pretty much confirm that.
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ITS HAPPENING

NINTENDO PLEASE ANNOUNCE
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>>341242092
DQIX sold great you stupid faggot.
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>>341247661
Great counterargument, dicklips.
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>>341248068
Tell SE that.
Oh wait, you can't, because they don't accept consumer messages on social media or email.
What a swell company.
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>>341248068
>Source: My ass

Jajajajajajaj
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>>341238809
>piracy is theft
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>>341238609
These shits have been ported to every system since they released almost.
Who gives a shit.
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>>341249028
>piracy isn't theft
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>>341249335
>The company is going to lose money from a game that I'm not going to buy anyway

Ebin.
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>>341238609
IM GONNA PIRATE ALL THE 3DS GAMES AND THERE IS NOTHING YOU CAN DO.

I hope it kills nintendy and no games ever get localised again.

Im not even going to play it just pirate them and leave a bad review on the eshop.

Have a nice day :^)
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>>341249493
>i'm taking something that doesn't belong to me for free
>not theft
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>>341249578
Let me fix that for you.

> I am taking a COPY of something that costs nothing to produce and leaving the original in place. Also I clearly have sand in my vagina and/or butthole.
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>>341249768
Still theft.
Still taking something that costs money for free.
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>piracy arguments
>console warring
>general shitflinging
DQ threads were a mistake, Horii would NOT approve
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>>341249875
You must be high, on chromesomes.
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>>341249578

Theft:
Person A has an item. Person B steals the item. Person A job longer has the item.

Software piracy:
Person A has an item. Person B pirates the item. Person A still has the item.

Theft != piracy. Piracy is closer to copyright infringement than theft.
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>>341250016
You must be poor.
And homeless.
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>>341248068
Still not as well as a mainline FF game.
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>>341250098
You must be 18 to post.

Come back when you understand how the real world works.
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>>341249875
You cannot steal a digital copy of something, that's not how theft works retard.

If I manage to drive off in a car that is exactly yours, right down to the saliva and gay prostitute jizz in the back seat, and your car is still sitting in the driveway, I have "stolen" nothing from you.
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>>341250239
I'm not the one trying to defend the fact that he's a poor thief.
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>>341238770
me too, I need these physical
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>>341248068
Eat a dick yo. DQ games always sold like butt in NA.
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>>341250335
No you are the one defending a corporation that would absolutely kill you and everyone you know for a profit.

Good goy.
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>>341238609
serves them right if they gave a fuck I wouldn't have lost hope
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I'm buying them both.
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>>341250904
Nice /pol/ meme
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>>341250904
So you don't play videogames or watch tv or do anything. Why are you even here?
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>>341251126
>implying.

Im just not retarded enough to pay for these brainwashing services.
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>>341251250
But you are here, the engine of pop culture for the last decade.
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Rampart DS piracy didn't stop IX from selling a bajillion copies
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>>341251513
Only in japan. It didn't crack 0.65 million copies. DQ games only sell well in Japan.
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>>341251345
Shit posting gets me awake in the morning.
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>>341251691
It sold a million and a half outside japan.
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>>341251345
Yes I am here.
This FREE image board for singaporean game journalists.
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>>341252157
Compared to 4 million plus in Japan. And its 1.33 million when you combine NA and Europe and like 100k outside of those 2 regions. So 4 million VS 1.43 million. Compared to something like FF13 which sold 1.74 million in the US alone.
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>>341252157
Combined.
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>>341252430
What are you trying to prove exactly?
That FF sells more than any other JRPG in the west?
That DQ in Japan is a national passtime not much different that going to sing Karaoke?
Those are well known facts.
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>>341252715
Karaoke is more popular than DQ.
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>>341252715
Oh that it doesn't sell enough for Square to even release it in NA. But they still do and a shit load of people think pirating games don't cut into sales.
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>>341250330
Actually you are since with how piracy works now, you're downloading the game off Nintendo's servers. So you're stealing it directly from Nintendo.

Just admit you're stealing games and are a cancer. Especially if you steam Dragon Warrior via piracy, So stop trying to rationalize it.
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>>341253021
>it doesn't sell enough for Square to even release it in NANA
By that logic no JRPG other than FF should leave Japan, since DQ still sells much better in the west than stuff like Tales or SMT, not to mention niche Vita weebshit that still gets localized regardless.
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>>341253528
What's good for square isn't the same as whats considered good by other publishers
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Not a real problem, DQ is doomed anyway.
Sugiyama will die in a few years, and DQ will die with him.
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>>341253848
They'll just keep releasing remakes.
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>>341253714
So you're saying that a big publisher localizing games that sell decently is in a worse position than irrelevant publishers localizing games that sell almost nothing?
How exactly?
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>ask pirates for steps on how to mod N3DS
>no help at all, just call me a retard
>10 threads of 'Why haven't you modded your 3DS /v/?' later that day

Pirates are cancer
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>>341241967
>Not naming your kid Ushi
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>>341254904
If you write Luma3ds on Google the fucking first result will be a Video on how to do it step by step, a foolproof guide.
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>>341238950
DS piracy was much more rampant than 3DS. Literally everyone had a flashcart
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Nobody cares enough to even bother pirating DQ, its fucking terrible.
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I'm pretty sure NoA will find a way to ruin the localization so I'm fine with that.
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>>341238609
>implying they are coming in the first place
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>>341260575
Yeah, still no release date.
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>>341261005
WTF is wrong with the font, it looks like ass
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>>341261005
We did. It was "summer 2016".
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>>341261420
It's "late 2016" now.
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>>341259096
why would Nintendo localize DQ
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>>341238609
I'll only pirate it because my country won't have this game for sale and if I imported it I'd have to spend around 120 obamas overall and it'd take like 2 months to get here.
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Did the 3DS version of DQ7 remove the random battles? I still like them in a DQ game.
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>>341261551
With DQ8 likely pushed back to 2017.
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>>341249768
>costs nothing to produce

i know you're retarded, but try trolling harder, ok
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Good, they shouldn't be on Nintendo exclusive.
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>>341238689
Retard post of the day

DQ is one of the easiest games out and they were ez mode versions of popular WRPGs.
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>>341261998
Good thing they're not
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>>341239783
>being poor
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>>341261695
I'm pretty sure, yeah. Last I remember I saw monsters roaming the world.
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Yep, pirated that shit for PCSX2

>unironically playing the downgraded version on "three dee ess"

I DO hope you guys aren't serious.....right?
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>>341262093
Still harder then many JRPG, especially FF.
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>>341262506
We can't all be as serious as you, playing worse versions for some reason
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>>341262604
That's really sad and thank god JRPGS are dead in the west.
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>>341238770
>>341250787
I'm glad you will so I can pirate them without regrets
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So, if I hack my 3ds, Homebrew, whatever, it won't fuck up it up?

I just want to play Japanese games.
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>>341262397

That's a shame.
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>>341250832
>600k is bad
>SE thinks these are considered greatest hits status for any of their games
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>>341263283

it up*
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>>341238609
I just started DQ5, it's pretty neat so far, any tips for someone completely new to DQ?

does the order matter? can i play DQIV after and then jump to VI and IX?
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>>341262363
Yes I'm poor.
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>>341263305
Yeah. I don't mind that in particular but I think an option to have either roaming monsters or random encounters would be nice.
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>>341238609
>rampant

seems like it is just one guy who keeps making threads saying it is "rampant" and "you have no excuse" and judging people for not stealing games lol
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>>341263356
It's pretty small compared to Japanese sales, but it should be enough to justify localizing the games
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So how censored will it be? Sucks it's published by shitendo.
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>>341263283
No. You don't lose saves, you don't lose streetpasses, you don't lose NNID, you don't lose purchases, nothing. The worst that can happen is just that you get stuck on 11.0 which means you can't downgrade without hardmods. As long as you follow guides and don't touch what they don't tell you to you're just fine.
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>>341263860
It's already censored in japan. It's gonna be ripped to shred in the west.
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>>341263405
Playing 1 2 3 and 4 5 6 in order would be better.
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If I'm a lazy fuck, does Sky3ds offer the same things as hacking the 3ds or does it have some limitations?
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They're going to flop because Square doesn't care. DQ7 disappeared from Amazon the other day and now is only available as a digital code preorder.

Calling it now they're changing them to digital only.
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>>341264571
>Paying to pirate
Come on son.
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>>341260575
>>341261005
Release dates will be announced today at nintendos stream thing
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>>341264114
The games hardly even have raunchy content but you just know how jihadtendo is lately.
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>>341264114
>It's already censored in japan.
It's not.
A dress was changed to make it look better on 3D.
Others were even made more revealing.
Go to hell sonybrony.
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I like how evident the tone change of the thread is when the sony kiddies woke up.
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>>341263283
i followed the /vg/ guide and despite fucking up several steps still managed to get it working in the end. got dq7, dq8, and theatrythm but later realized they deserved to be played translated to really appreciate them.
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>>341266259
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D0v2wWxOpw
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>>341266259
every single extra jessica outfit got censored.
if you look closely in your image you'll see an extra white material covering even more cleavage.
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Piracy is a non-issue for the 3DS.
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>>341266757
We're opposed to lace on lingerie now?
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>>341264571
>or does it have some limitations?
You need a private header for every game so you don't get banned if you go online with them.
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>they shortened VII 3DS and is now like a quarter of the length

thanks squeenix
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3DS piracy is so easy you can literally download games directly off the eshop for free now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DluGYTT2aqw

Any questions, please ask.
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I'm still on rxTools from back in January because I'm too lazy to look up how to switch to this new cfw.

Also I've already preordered DQ7 anyway. Favorite PS1 game of all time, excited to see how the remake goes.
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>>341267139
t. piratefag
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>>341263405
In the beginning boomerangs, whips, and the sleep spell are great. Before going to the hunted castle money grind for the best stuff you can buy. After that you never really need to grind again.
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Dragon Quest 1 remake when? I play that shit every other month.
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Is there a written out guide to h4x0ring the turdds?
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>>341269090
hella sure broski
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>>341269090
check the homebrew general on /vg/
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>>341238609
>implying nintendo deserves any money

Their kusoge deserves to flop, desu.
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>>341269090
http://pastebin.com/EBKipkPW
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>>341266259
>butchered bunny suit
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>>341269589
>>341269589
>>341269589
>>341269589
>>341269589
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>>341262093

That's still way too hard for western audiences now.
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>>341266259
Ok that one looks better.
But what about this?
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>>341271379
And this?
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>>341238609
Gonna buy VII
Already own VIII
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>>341271379
>>341271551
Time will tell
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>>341272153
The game has been out for a year already.
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The percentage of people who pirate 3ds games is probably much lower than that we see here. Lots of kids out there and normies who wouldn't know where to begin or would run the risk of modding. Also plenty of people here admit they don't want to do it for one reason or another.

Also there is a high concentration of underaged and shut in neets who use it as their only means to get vidya
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>>341272682
>shut in neets who use it as their only means to get vidya
you know you can order online right?
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>>341250028
The theft is fiscal. From the loss of a sale. The whole "a game I was never going to buy" argument doesn't work when you still play the fucking game retard because you are supposed to buy the game to be able to play it in the first place. Piracy just creates a loophole in that.

Im not against it. Pirate if you want. I'm playing a pirated pc game right now. Just don't try to act like it's not stealing because the developers aren't losing sale since you were never going to buy it. For that to be true you would also have never illegally downloaded it to play through it.

Bottom line is you are using someone's services and not paying for it.
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