STRANDING
>>341215437
what did he mean by this?
>>341215725
He's deliberately taking the piss out of his broken English.
>>341215437
This was literally the most pretentious thing I've ever seen.
I was laughing out loud while watching it.
>>341216216
>This was literally the most pretentious thing I've ever seen
You're like a baby.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OT4nMqTeVuE
>>341216216
>im 12 and everything that tries to be art is pretentious
>>341216631
No, but that trailer was pretentious.
>>341216216
>btw my favorite films are Star Wars and Pulp Fiction :)
>>341215923
Fuck, I have some clues. Shinsekai Yori book or anime. He read book 100% because it was top one seller. Not LN shit, real novel. Dumping useful info from manga
>>341216663
>>341216216
Why are you (and some others on /v/) calling this trailer "pretentious?" Would you call anything with vague symbolism at all "pretentious?"
I'm not exactly calling Kojima some creative genius, but when did /v/ become so vehemently anti-intellectual?
For a trailer without any gameplay, I thought it was well-made and interesting.
Could some good guy tell me the name of the song?
brb fapping to Reedus' butt
THE QUESTION ISNT WHAT THE FLASH DRIVES ARE
BUT WHERE WHAT WILL HE DO WITH THE FLASH DRIVES? IT SEEMS LIKE THERE AREN'T COMPUTERS LEFT IN THE WORLD, OR ANY KIND OF MACHINE THAT KIND SUPPORT FLASH DRIVES
>>341216663
It was a vague teaser showcasing the tone of the game.
>>341216663
suck it up, if the game turns out to be as interesting and provoking as the trailer theres nothing wrong with the trailer showing this
>>341216732
“Cantus” is the name we gave to 呪力 (juryoku, cursing power). It’s psychokinesis, but as far as I know it’s pretty much omnipotent. As explained by the fake minoshiro (the Tsukuba branch), psychokinesis was scientifically attested in year 2011 by the Azerbaijani cognitive scientist Imran Ismailov. Before then, just like in our society now, superpowers like psychokinesis are considered mere fantasies.
He realized that much like the observer effect in physics, in cognitive sciences as well observing a system has effects on the outcome. If you think about it, this has been common sense in pharmacology for ages, that’s why they always include placebo as well in every experiments. Ismailov realized that if they want to scientifically prove the existence of psychokinetic powers, they need to avoid the observer effect. People working on the experiment, expecting it to fail in disbelief have a negative effect on the experiment subject. So to minimize the influence of observers, everyone taking part in the experiment in any way only knew their little bit, and not the whole. No one knew all the details, not even the place and time of the experiments
>>341215437
Can't wait for a bunch of cryptic "amazing" trailers and it ends up being Phantom Pain 2 and the game is garbage.
Kojima is past his prime and will never make a good game again.
>>341216216
I bet the doctor and nurse laughed out loud when your whore mother gave birth to such an ugly sack of shit
>>341216216
You faggots are going full circle I swear.
>>341216757
The pretense is assuming that any of the imagery in the trailer had meaning.
>>341215437
HERE, I REALIZE
>it's literally okay when the nips do it
If this was a SJW indie dev, the reaction would be completely different.
>>341216216
No it wasn't. There is a difference. Someone making a pixel art game or walking simulator with no real direction other than the desire to make art is pretentious. Kojima is a man who has a clear vision and wants to see it come to life through his medium. He's not creating just to create. I doubt he's trying to make art just for the sake of it being called art. I'm a huge believer in video games are not art but I was proven wrong tonight.
>>341216216
>don't understand the high IQ trailer
>start to feel insecure about this
>w-what can I do, I guess I really am retarded
>wait.... I KNOW, I'LL CALL IT PRETENTIOUS
The trailer is amazing and i want to be hype but the trailer of MGS V was also amazing...
>>341216990
The first identified esper was a 19-year-old girl called Nona Maldanova. During the experiment she successfully moved a light plastic ball inside a transparent tube. The success of the experiment had dramatic results. After the first case, there was no stopping to psychokinetics showing up one after another. In the end about 0.3% of humankind awakened to psychokinetic powers. Even that small number with their (at first) feeble powers managed to cause huge disturbance in society. Especially that according to resources from that age, a large number of PK users showed signs of the schizoid personality disorder.
As I said, at first their powers were very weak. Scientists thought that PK’s source of energy was the burning of sugar in the brain. But evolution showed once again that it still has a strong grasp on humankind. Once people started using PK for crimes, such as in the case of Boy A, society started to fear them, and we all know that if society as a collective starts to fear something, then society as a collective starts to act to erase that threat. PK users were hunted, and of course they fought for their survival. That was exactly the threat of death and natural selection that was necessary for evolution to blast down the doors.
>>341217128
>Everything bears no objective meaning to me hence I'm of the intellectual variety.
>>341217214
If it was SJW there would be hamfisted imagery that does not leave their political leanings to the imagination.
>>341217214
If this was a SJW indie dev, the trailer would be completely different.
MAN ASS
>>341217214
It's okay when Kojima does it because he has fucking credentials and experience unlike some low key twitter posting dumb shit.
You probably don't have a job because you never write your experiences and just spew bullshit like "ITS OKAY WHEN HE DOES IT! IF IT WAS ME YOUD HAVE A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT REACTION!"
Anti Kojima fags haven't given me a sound argument yet. None.
So... What are the chances of this game just being what Silent Hills was originally going to be?
>all these mad drones
I didn't know Patrice Wilson was making a game.
>>341217452
Del Taco isn't working on it so pretty low.
>>341217332
>the high IQ trailer
>>341217332
Explain to me all the symbolism.
I'm waiting :^).
>>341217582
give me 3 books and 3 films you consider deep and high IQ.
>>341217128
Symbolism is fine - even blatant symbolism is fine. Look at Orwell (Animal Farm) - or C.S. Lewis, whose allegories hit like sledgehammers. Just becase symbolism is blatant, doesn't mean it is bad.
Now, if the imagery has no meaning, then it could be fine as well - it might hit on more surreal notes.
Ridiculously shitty ass trailer
Just some "look at all the hidden meaning behind this stuff" shit
>>341217332
>high iq trailer
>>341217332
>the high IQ trailer
>>341217557
it needs to be illegal for patrice wilson to make videos, he's a fucking madman
>>341217724
the dark tower
1984
twilight
star wars
whiplash
drive
>>341217803
More like "look at all the hidden meaning in norman reedus' behind"
>>341216216
its okay to say you are stupid :)
So are we gonna be able to see his dick in the actual game or not?Will the game have realistic dick physics?
Anyone have that edit with Giant Rei's head in the water?
>>341217876
Gas yourself!
>>341216976
lmao
>dead crabs on the beach
What did Kojima mean by this?
>>341218139
Nope, even the Witcher 3 guys said dicks are hard to make. If Slav magic can't make it happen, nothing can.
>>341218439
He just hates crabs
>>341218439
Are you feeling it now, Mr. Krabs?
So what was the scar on his stomach anyway? I thought maybe it was a c-section scar as some kind of symbolism, but a c-section scar is only one cut and not a + shaped cut like that.
>>341218439
its a literal death stranding.
>>341217332
>>don't understand the high IQ trailer
>>341218528
It's going to have to do with him being the only one who didn't get killed by the umbilical cords, or something of the sort
He probably got his stomach removed or somethin
>>341218439
This kills the crab
>>341216216
>shitposting the same thing in every Kojimbo thread
Bravo, you aren't pretentious at all
>>341216705
Pulp Fiction is great, you fucking cumguzzler.
>>341218528
It's a kojima c-section , remember how Joy's looked? Though this one looks less dumb compared to hers.
5 floating figures were 5 clones of him that were dead. 6th clone is the baby and it's dead and gone to join others. 6 tags on the necklace to contact his clones.
>>341218484
Bullshit. If Kojima wants dicks, you'd better believe there's gonna be dicks.
>>341215437
Kojima is Norman. The shackles are from when he was locked up at Konami. The baby is MGS which is why he cries and then it leaves. The scar is from his time at Konami, it's somthing for him to remember them by. The vast sea is him being free. The 5 figures are 5 MG games. Which represent like 5 ghosts from his past.
>>341218770
no it's not you tasteless faggot
>>341216914
>if the game turns out to be as interesting and provoking as the trailer
It's a Kojima game; it won't.
Seriously, get through the five stages and accept that MGS was good because of the people Kojima was reigned in by, not because of Kojima himself.
>>341215437
LOOK UP HERE, MAN, I'M IN DANGER!
>>341216797
It's in the fucking trailer at the end
Revengeance, subsistance, ghost babel, integral, stranding?
As much as i enjoy that Hideo is giving a huge fuck you to Konami by announcing a game at the Sony both less than a year after he was sacked, i really hope this comes out for PC.
I hope he finally saw what happens when you sell on PC.
>>341218439
How deep does the lore go?
Thank you playstation
Xbox cucks mad they won't get to play this LUL.
>>341219137
beautiful
>>341216216
>I didn't understand it, so it's bad!
>It was so bad that I was even laughing! Aren't I cool, /v/? I'm jaded and cynical just like you!
God you are fucking retarded.
>>341219054
>I hope he finally saw what happens when you sell on PC.
Yeah his upcoming games were cancelled and he got fired, this is a PS4 exclusive buddy.
>>341219172
cringe
So how did Kojima manage to get a real-time concept trailer for his game?
Was he rusing us all this time about how far he is into development?
Did Sony strike a deal with Konami to leverage the Fox Engine or some of the Silent Hills assets?
Did Kojima out-right lie and the trailer was pre-rendered and made by a third-party?
>>341216757
>but when did /v/ become so vehemently anti-intellectual?
>anti-intellectual
Stop using buzzwords which you don't understand the actual meaning of dumbass.
>>341216216
>symbolism and religion is too much for me, haha so pretentious
You've never read a book or even seen a movie have you?
Good god
I'm gonna say this sincerely
Kill yourself.
>>341218528He's Jesus
>>341216216
I like how everyone hates you for being correct
>>341219398
you dont think an experienced team can make a trailer in 5 months?
this is probably ALL they have
>>341219501
Praise gojima :^)
>>341219398
He's probably lying about how far into development he's in.
>>341219376
Thats fine, but please don't imply that it was in any ways the release on PC at fault for getting MGS killed.
Last time i checked it was because Konami hates the fuck out of Kojima and they wanted to make Pachinko machines.
>>341217332
>>341217251
>>341217106
>>341217086
>>341216757
>>341216705
>>341216631
>>341216606
>all these butthurt Kojima dick sucking faggots
How the hell have you delusional retards not learn your lesson from the abomination that was MSGV?
>>341218528
It's not a c-section. That would be much lower on the abdomen, and like you said, would be a single cut.
It's a removal of the bellybutton. Umbilical cords seem to have some sort of literal or symbolic importance in this story, and by removing the main character's bellybutton, you're removing their connection to their past, home, family, what-have-you. Norman Reedus has been forcibly extracted from whatever life he had.I'm bullshitting, but this theory holds about as much water as any other(hint: none at all)
Thank Christ Kojima is releasing a new game. That means we have years of good trailers and hundreds of threads, charts, OC, and general batshit insane stuff on /v again. Thank you based Kojima.
You punched your ticket for this ruse cruise, lads?
>>341216797
Smash Mouth - All Star
>STRANDING
I'm sure someone's already made this joke
>>341219631
Mgsv was shit due to konami getting tired of waiting for kojima to finish the game
>>341219635
maybe they are all giant artificial womb bred humans. Of course you'd hug the baby version, it's your womb mate, your twin
so much damage control from xcucks it's surreal
you'll never going to play it even on your 6 memeflop machines :^)
>>341219449
So... whats the real meaning then?
>>341219725
T-the actual game will be good though right?
What if Norman Reedus knew this game was gonna happen the whole time and he made the Silent Hills petition just to drum up controversy??
>>341217163
YOU WERE JUST LIKE ME
NORMAN REEDUS'S BABY
STRANDING HERE
I REALIZE
>>341219619
Not him, but you can't believe he'd work so closely with Sony and not be obligated to make it exclusive.
I'd like a PC release too, but there's no way.
>>341219896
It doesn't matter. The threads leading up to the game are the best part. But maybe Kojima will make an amazing horror game. Who knows?
>>341219631
ah yes the MGSV is bad meme even though it was the best game of last year, and if not one of the best games of last year
>inb4 last year was all bad games
>>341216216
>I refuse to think about anything even remotely abstract so this is pretentious
Watch Enter the Void and then talk to me about pretension, you dumb faggot.
>>341216732
Can you make a point, because all it looks is you dumping a manga you like.
>>341219896
There is literally no way of knowing this will be good or not its just man grabbing newborn on the beach
>>341220007
Maybe a post release PC release.
You never know.
It's not worth getting hyped. Not again.
Bowie's death has finally driven Kojima over the edge. Hats off to him for making literally the most insane E3 trailer ever.
>>341220140
Shit If he found this pretentious he should watch Eraserhead.
>we want the david lynch audience
>>341219635
Umbilical cords are in a way, proof that one was given life by someone else.
I think it's a way of saying he lost his connection to life but also it's what saved him in the end since everything else died.
Christ I need to stay away from these threads, I'm slowly going nuts.
>>341216216
This
>>341219631
>you're a butthurt Kojima drone if you're annoyed by some ignorant faggot who says "pretentious" to everything he can't understand
fuck off retard
>>341220050
t. babies first mgs game.
Yeah I loved a story driven game being completely shit at that with a completely empty open world.
>>341220368
Eraserhead was pretty entertaining at least.
>>341217332
>high IQ
>>341219449
"Anti-intellectual: A person who scorns intellectuals and their views and methods."
Again, you probably didn't read the subtlety of my post, but I said I'm not calling Kojima a creative genius - rather, I'm responding to a pattern all across /v/:
>game has vague symbolism or requires you to use critical thinking
>wahhh it's pretentious
It applies outside of games, too. Try to see what happens if someone mentions the Monty Hall Problem on /v/, and you'll see.
>>341220392
Nah Kojima is sucking off Nicolas Winding Refn these days.
Just like he was sucking off Woo in the 90s and Carpenter in the 80s.
Loving kojima drones delusions and butthurt in this thread. Keep it coming
>>341216216
Jesus Christ read a fucking book or something.
>>341219631
MGSV had some very tight gameplay.
The story was complete shit but then again I thought /v/ didn't give a shit about story in video games.
fuck, the song was pretty good
>>341219725
Last thread was better and more crazy. People probably just take a break. And looks like shitposters from third world are wake up
>>341216216
>>341217662
>naked man freed from his shackles
Kojima released from Konami
>man holding his baby and suddenly losing it
MGSV
>staring into the unknown
Kojima and his studio going independent
hope that helped you.
Xbox fanboys mad all they this E3 were two new consoles to buy.
>>341218439
In most asian cultures, the figure of a dead crab by the beach, or a large body of water, is meant to evoke the coming of a bad omen.
>>341217069
You're past your prime but you've never made anything
>>341220745
Kojima fans all need to do this
They'll fall for any touch of symbolism of any kind from their gook king Kojima even if it doesn't serve any narrative purpose but to seem obtuse and cryptic.
He has 0 writing talent but he's a great game designer and it takes a special breed of retard to conflate these two.
really hope this ends up being an actual video game and not just an interactive experience
>>341221025
Wouldn't the image of any dead animal be a "bad omen?"
Do you have a source on this?
>>341221165
MGSV was a video game, PT was one too unless you think horror games are walking simulators.
I believe he has learned his lesson from MGS4
>>341221257
well, the crab did show up before all the dead whales and whatnot
but i think i get the reasoning behind that. a dead crab, or a bunch of fish, near a beach would signal that the water is bad or something
>>341220987
>>man holding his baby and suddenly losing it
>MGSV
I thought it was supposed to be PT. Considering the baby and all. And it makes sense to have Norma crying over it since he had a part in it.
>>341221506
Yeah, I suppose either of them could work since they were both left unfinished.
>>341216976
kek
>>341220654
>Try to see what happens if someone mentions the Monty Hall Problem on /v/, and you'll see.
That just sounds like an ordinary Zero Escape thread to me.
>>341216976
Let's take the stairs.
>>341216606
Kojima here, I just got a great new idea for a new trailer!
>>341222408
Why don't you stop eating sausages on twitter and finish your other game first you fucking hack.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GwofRzkROo4
>>341222803
No, I am currently buying paper mache frog suits and a casio keyboard.
>>341216216
I bet you dislike MGS2. Brainless redditor.
>>341222947
I bet you cry when the bird says Hal 50 times you fag
dear idiots
Death Stranding is an actual term
http://www.greateratlantic.fisheries.noaa.gov/protected/stranding/overview/
A stranding is essentially when a marine animal (from turtles to whales) washes up on shore.
A Live Stranding is when they wash up and are alive
and a Death Stranding is when a dead body or a carcass washes up.
studying stranding patterns is important for checking on the marine ecosystem and weather effects in the ocean
>>341217332
>don't understand the pretentious trailer
>start to feel insecure about this
>w-what can I do, I guess I really am retarded
>wait.... I KNOW, I'LL CALL IT HIGH IQ
>>341216216
bad idea, /v/ will jerk off over anything kojima even looks at.
>>341217908
not too subtle and not too obvious
I like you
>>341217861
this is an amazing image
>>341222976
>kojoma using a company cup like a good sarariman
>autistic kojicuck badly shops le tears meme onto it
r8 my theory
>Reedus is a super soldier. One of the best in wherever this game take place is.
>Ludens is his power armor or some shit.
>They make mass produced clones of him, cue the baby connected to him via wire
>He embraces his legacy, but then looks at his hand to see oil.
>This represents his participation in cloning fueling warfare, and all the blood being spilled is literally on his hands.
>>341223842
yeah, Norman Reedus is a notorious internet prankster
SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Dont ask where I got this :^)
>>341223932
That is horribly similar to the plot of mgs.
Incredibly likely though
so it is pretty much confirmed this game is about ayy lmao's right?
>>341224029
i'd rather ask what the hell this is.
>>341224029
fucking idiot the x is completely irrelevant in the first equation why is it even there?
>>341224029
It means nothing, anon
>>341219137
this meme is gonna take off
>>341224156
Yes, in an interview with the dorito pope after the sony conference, kojima says the 'death stranding' the title refers to is from another world.
>>341224029
>Dont ask where I got this :^)
The kojipro website...
http://img.kojimaproductions.jp/img/works/modal/menu-img-01.png
>>341224286
It's not though, that'd be implying that
xab - xcde = ab - cde
Which is clearly false. If you were dividing and not subtracting you'd be correct.
>>341224029
>>341224210
the first one is shwarzschild radius equation (black holes n shit)
the second one I have no idea
>>341224660
I think he means that X = 0 anon.
>>341223842
Yes, Norman Reedus himself shopped it and posted it on Instagram you autistic fuck.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BGnrvZIMcOS/?taken-by=bigbaldhead
>>341224660
It clearly says 0=(x)*(a)-(x)*(b)
0=(x)*(a-b)
x=0 or a-b=0
it just looks like a dumb stock image layered on the art desu
>>341223932
in the post iterview kojima literally said ludens is not part of this game
>>341224029
Is the second one the equation that has to do with gravity between different objects?
>>341225262
It's a quantum wave equation, that's why the (x)s don't cancel, they're variables and operators.
so the Astronaut will be in this or not?
>>341226063
Cute. Maybe make it look like a part of wiki page?
>>341219383
>doesn't know wt snacks
>join pac-man discord
>some guy keeps coming on and sulking about how he's getting banned from servers for stalking some chick
>people console him
>every fucking day
I just wanna talk about the yellow orb what the fuck is this shit
>>341215437
So did they somehow fart out another not-Fox Engine?
Shit looks just like the Fox Engine even though he isn't able to use it?
>>341226528
>Discord
Wew lad
>>341226625
What's wrong with Discord?
Look at me g-guys i'm l-like d-david lynch t-too! Haaa...
>>341226528
fuck wrong tab
>>341226625
I think it's pretty useful for finding friendlies fast, and there's a lot of people on there better than me who can offer good advice.
>>341226659
A David Lynch video game would be great.
>>341226721
Play Deadly Premonition.
>>341226721
>>341226832
A real Lynch vidya would probably just be a 16 bit VN with 3d tetris gameplay sequences.I'd play it
>>341226131
Kojima says no, it's just the company mascot, but he also said >>341224656, so it sure does seem like it will be.
is it weird that out of everything i was more interested in his necklace and if it has some significance?
>>341216216
>welcome to the age where it's prideful to be ignorant :^)
>cinematic trailers are okay when nips do them
>>341227184
Its a teaser for a game that just started development. Not a trailer that has anything to do with the gameplay (or even story).
>>341227384
Doesn't make it any less shit with a bunch of 2deep4u "I wanna be art so bad ;_;" imagery.
>>341227184
>BWOOOOOOOOOONG
>THIS SUMMER
>BWOOOOONG
>*no context David Bowie song*
nice trailer burgertard
Tell me when you want clues for the ruse cruise
>>341215437
>Ctrl + f
>No "ON THE EDGE"
I'm disappointed in all of you.
yfwI'M BACK
>>341215437
I actually hope it'll have that militaristic horror atmosphere, akin to the hospital part of MGSV. If done correctly, the potential is limitless.
>>341228619
>6 dog tags
>5 people
So, he's the sixth?
>>341228619
I'm getting such strong interstellar/prometheus vibes from this game and I hope I'm right.
>>341228841
>I hope I'm right
I hope you aren't
>>341228998
>>341228841
I hope you both are wrong.
>>341216216
I want to have bored sex with the brunette while she keeps telling me to cum already.
>>341228619
Alright, I give up. Where is it?
>>341215437
ON THE EDGE
>>341229078
I hope neither of them are wrong desu
>>341218929
How is HS treating you, pleb?
So what's the difference between art and pretentious art?
>>341217724
The Matrix, Inception... Can't think of anything else
>>341229739
Realistically, art would have symbolism that means something and some kind of actual meaning. Pretentious art is just vague for the purpose of trying to be deep but doesn't actually have any kind of meaning.
On /v/ most people err on the side of calling everything pretentious art since there's so many bullshit "art" games in vidya so people are cautious
pls let it be silent hill
>death stranding
dafuq?
>>341218842 Are you a filmographyfag or you have a...
>high iq
>>341218439
Dead executives at Konami
Hidden text in frequencies of sound at ending of trailer. Use spectrogram and brain
http://picosong.com/ZD3K/
>>341219607
True. He even said it was rendered real time as if they already have something. All they have is that trailer most likely. They still have no engine.
Can someone shoop the stranded dead refugee kid over the baby?
>>341230764
I recognized that right away but am too lazy to load up my spectograph
>>341216606
This should be used for a horror game soundtrack
>>341229739
Here, whether or not you like the art.
In general, pretension refers to 'putting on airs' or claiming to be more than what you are. In art, that usually comes down to putting undue emphasis on theme/symbolism, or pretending to have significance in a work that the work doesn't really contain. Basically, any off note that symbolism strikes, or symbolism done badly in a variety of ways. That's why it's so hard to pin down a definition: we use the same word for the ditches on opposite sides of the road, and because of the different experiences and analysis methods people bring to art, different people can accuse the same work of contradictory types of pretension.Or maybe the work is just that bad, and features all of them.
It usually ties into condescending to the audience - underlining the symbolism with a red pen, directly stating the theme, or some such, done in a way that insults the viewer's intelligence.
A painting of a single red cube, accompanied by a paragraph of bullshit philosophy indicating that the red cube is an allegory for mankind's struggles with itself is pretentious. The significance that the artist is pretend is there simply isn't there.
This is where "throw a bunch of random symbols in" comes off as pretentious - the artist is trying to fool the viewer into thinking that there's some deeper, hidden metaphorical significance to the work, when it's just a jumble. Unfortunately, a work with carefully constructed symbolism will seem to be this kind of pretension to someone who hasn't managed to unravel the symbolism.
So basically, having a theme and expounding it hamhandedly, using too many symbols, too few symbols, too obvious symbols, symbols that aren't obvious enough - all of it can come off as pretentious.
>>341225262
>>341225815
Interstellar confirmed.
>>341220567
>my first mgs
my fav is 3 and my first believe it or not was fucking 4
>>341231176
Well said. This doesn't really apply to Kojima besides using too many symbols or too obvious but both of those are arguable.
I feel like his fans are really the ones creating this atmosphere of pretension around his work with all their dumb fan theories.
Fan theories and predictions are really just people trying to show their views coincide with the author's or that they "get" him just to stroke their egos.
Most of the "theories" posted in this thread are perfect for the cringe threads but these people take it way too seriously. They feel like Kojima is actually symbolizing Jesus and God and the 4 horsemen and MGS V is the baby, it's ridiculous but they'll just cover their autism with "but it's fun" but it really just boils down to ego stroking and circlejerks over Kojima's mediocre writing.
>>341230764
>implying
Show us what you've got, otherwise you're as good as people who were saying that there was a hidden message in the light effects in GZ.
>>341226063
Heartily lol'd.
Fucking Normanfags Rrrrreeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedus
>>341220567
>he thinks witcher was good
the argument is over
>>341232092
>pic
someone want to explain to an idiot?
>>341219576
Dumb frogposter.
>>341232092
Neofags might actually solve this before you do.
Im just the messenger
>>341217128
No, it was all definitely random things assembled together, there was no thought behind the FIRST PUBLIC SHOWING of the game Kojima needs to convince Sony he's worth keeping around.
Now, go back to playing CoD.
>>341232503
Series of infinity sums up to -1/12 mathematically
Try it :^)
>>341232503
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1_%2B_2_%2B_3_%2B_4_%2B_%E2%8B%AF
>>341215898
Stranding is what it's called when whales beach themselves, genius.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cetacean_stranding
Death is acting as an adjective here.
>>341232596
Moby Dick Studios, the ruse cruse is on again.
>>341225778
Yes, but it was shown by some guys that it's clearly Norman wearing the Ludens armor in the pictures of it. The comparison images are somewhere in the mess of Kojima threads.
That could just be them using him as their model though.
>>341232503
It's a local (and kind of overdone) /sci/ joke. Basically, the analytic continuation of Riemann zeta function at -1 is -1/12. If you apply a normal formula of the zeta function, you get that 1 + 2 + 3 + 4 + ... = -1/12.
>>341232596
That looks like a PCR results. A common DNA test to determine what genes are present in a sample.
What the hell could the game even be about?
Was the scene literal? But then the baby vanishes.
And then 5 Psycho Manti come and the handprints and dogtags umbilical cord what the fuck does any of it mean
>>341232990
Oil. See >>341232667
>>341232938
i want /sci/ to leave
fuck you and your dumb numbers
>>341215437
KOJIMA
UNLEASHED
Anyone else notice the umbilical cord was a fiber optic cable?
Wow this might look interesting but then I remember it's a Kojima game so it will take 5-6 years to be made and still be dogshit at the end
>>341232072
>his fans create the atmosphere
We certainly did for MGSV. MGS2 had some legitimate complexity to it, but few things he's done since have approached that level of fuckery, excepting advertising/publicity stunts.
You're definitely right in general about the audience creating pretension, by reading deeper meaning into a work. Literary Analysis is rife with that sort of thing, because the only way to get recognition in a paper on an already-analyzed classic is to find something in it nobody's found before. Ties into another one of your points.
>Fan theories and predictions are really just people trying to show their views coincide with the author's or that they "get" him just to stroke their egos.
Sure, you Joestar'd me with "but it's fun!"
But you're assuming a lot about people's motivations here. Most people don't play vidya to get into the leaderboards, or win speedrunning competitions, acquire legions of youtube followers, or accumulate what fame their is in vidya.
We play them because they're fun. It's the same reason people make most of these theories. Wild speculation is its own pleasure.Now, if someone's doing it to acquire and monetize a following, you're probably right. Looking at GameTheory and Vaati (although they are just reposting theories other people came up with for fun).
Besides, asking "why?" is the most basic human impulse, and "what does it mean?" is simply another form of that. Searching for patterns (and thus 'meaning'), even when there aren't any, is a foundational human impulse, more deeply-seated in out neurological circuitry than the desire for recognition. That's the reason every single culture developed some sort of religious cosmology: to explain the things about the world they could explain by any other method.
Don't attribute it to some questionable ulterior motive. It's difficult to fight our programming.
>>341218439
He had crabs while having "The Encounter" with joost.
>>341232990
nanomachines
>>341232596
I really, really don't think there's anything here. At least wait for the clear official version of the trailer without people talking in the back.
>>341233601
/x/ here, that picture made me laff
you won't die tonight, have fun
>>341233815
LOL
>>341228016
i literally just did that, thinking i wasnt going to be the first, but then i saw this. and >>341229331
My Balkan brain understood this this way:
Crude oil kills fish (obvious)
Our future (baby) is disappearing / turning into crude oil because we're hungry for crude oil
Much like nukes in Metal Gear, this game will focus on crude oil and the business
So the message is FUCK OIL (probably in the literal sense when Neo Quiet forms from crude oil and shit)
it's Kino you fags
why did it take this long for someone to say it
>>341220987
So game will be about Kojima? Thats pretentious.
>>341218439
CRAB BATTLE
>>341220301
I think the game is published by SIE, so I don't think so, but eh, who knows.
>>341216216
>Literally mfw during a anxiety attack
;_;
>all those people who dissected this image and determined it was Norman
>They were right
>>341234463
>>341234107
You know what.
What if it's not deep space.
Butdeep sea
There are a lot of easy connections to make with mgs.
Diamonds and oil
Norman reedus is naked protagonist
Loses the baby is similar to a phantom pain
No belly button is a common clone trait
Ominous floating guys that may be good or bad
>>341226998
It's probably just dog tags OF THE FUTURE.
>>341234463
>Some dude finds a Kojimbo tweet from 2014 talking about an album he likes.
>Album has a song called "I'll keep coming"
>That song is actually in the trailer of the new game.
Some people has nothing better to do with their lives I guess, but shit that was amazing when I heard that song playing.
>>341233815
r(sub s) = 2GM/(c^2)
>We can determine the radius of a black hole however, using an equation called the Schwarzschild radius. For a black hole of mass m, the Schwarzschild radius RS is given by RS = 2Gm/c2, where G is the universal gravitational constant and c is the speed of light
Physics n shit.
Let's see some gameplay, you fucking gook.
>>341234554
>deep sea
>suit is covered in fabric akin to a space suit
>Reedus holding ps4 games.jpg
>>341234781
They don't even have a game engine yet
>>341234608
the big boss clones were birthed normally though
>>341234843
kek
>>341234904
I was actually wondering about that, if he said that shit was running on real time, how can they not even have an engine?
>>341217861
>>high iq trailer
>>341235076
Running a video in realtime of a prerendered cutscene :^)
>>341234731
The original video for the song shows naked man the entire time too.
This and Resident Evil 7 blew my mind. They managed to save E3.
>>341216216
>pretentious
Can't wait until yet another word gets thrown around enough on /v/ so that it loses all meaning.
>>341235313
The guy in the music video is also being covered in a black viscous liquid
>>341235385
don't be so pretentious
>>341225801
>>341225262
It's the Dirac Equation.
>>341233374
>>341235512
Didn't see it that far cause his dyel body was repulsing
The possibilities Im thinking are
>Island sandbox to go with the stranding naming and how kojimer wanted to shift mgs5 to sandbox so he might have this game follow on that
>cloning to follow the stranding naming or dna strands
>dog tags imply military so maybe super soldier project
>baby and cesarean scar to support cloning theory since he may be the original
>floating men imply higher power so maybe the leaders of the project but Im getting precursors or time travel plots from it
>beached animals could mean the end of the a marine animal's life due to the shift into a inhospitable terrain so maybe some alien race conquered humans and now are treating them like test animals again coming back to cloning
Im still have no theory or idea to the black ink though
>>341235852
>dog tags
They're not dog tags, they're padlocks with equations written on them
>>341236084
They did look strange, I didnt know what to make of it though. What could this imply?
>trailer is convoluted, full of symbolism and meaning
>Game ends up being just dogshit
>>341236160
Nothing, just like chico's chest headphone jack.
>>341236084
They dont look like padlocks though. More like just solid as fuck bars with hoops on top for easy keychaining and shit engraved on them.
Almost like those keyring notecards students use, making Normie Reeee a cheatnote using physicist/spessman.
>>341236084
>>341236160
An anon in another thread pointed out that they look like Kingston flash drives. Perhaps they hold extremely vital data?
>>341236434
>They dont look like padlocks though.
You need glasses.
>>341236351
>Even if it's good /v/ will still shit on it because it's NEVER going to XBoner or PC
>>341236543
Aren't usb drives for sure since there's no usb interface on them, wireless may be, like key-chips for magnetic locks
>>341216732
>>341216990
Wait so was the quote you replied to taken from SSY? I don't remember the quote but I only watched the anime, and even that was a while ago.
>>341236563
It is coming to PC. PC and PS4 buddies will get to enjoy the game together with their friends.
>>341236549
Wheres the keyhole and how does it swivel open when its blatantly one solid chunk of metal/stone?
Anyone got a good image of the five guys floating in the air? That was creepy.
>>341236434
>>341236543
Neat, cheatnotes could mean that they need to constantly remind themselves about core info so frequently induced amnesia may be a thing, and the flash drives could be a metaphor for a Johnny Mnemonic plot
>>341226721
The closest thing you'll get.
>>341226721
start tweeting him about doing one
id hate to see him go without making one because i think he can do it, even if it's just the story so long as the devs dont out themselves as being balless
>>341235852
I like your theory.
Post apocalyptic future with fucked up planet.
Natural birth is no longer possible, and a project using cloning has been started in order to proliferate and "create" life.
Or the project was started to make super humans that can warp reality or have supernatural powers to make/shape the world (Homo Ludens/Faber), hence the weird equations.
The black oil is a primordial ooze that either helps create or sustain life, shown by the umbilical cords to the dead fish baby.
Norman Reedus was one of six humans used to create these Homo Ludens/Faber clones, hence the six tags. His clone failed and the resulting baby thing formed back into ooze/oil. He sees the other 5 successful clones at the end of the trailer.
Wait a minute that goo....
>>341228841
It's like making videogames that look (and often, play) like movies instead of movies allows Kojima to be completely devoid of originality.
After ripping off campy 80's action movies, he's now ripping off Lost, Interstellar, Prometheus, Inception and modern sci-fi.
>>341234819
As long as it's a sealed environment then it doesn't really matter, you just need to protect against radiation and shit in space and pressure in the deep sea.
Getting tired of Kojima's vague artistry and "cinematic" trailers.
How will this play and how will they join the plot with the gameplay? Because after MGSV I'm not too optimistic about either.
Why would anyone be hyped?
Literally nothing shown.
>>341215437
why the fuck is this guy in every video game?
I want gameplay fags to leave.
>>341228841
I'm getting more Evangelion vibes, honestly.
Someone 'shop Kojima's head on the beach.
Friendly reminder this game will be a The Division-like according to Kojima
>>341216216
>all those (You)s
>>341238693
He also said uncharted. He's basically just describing a third person shooter but didn't want to say MGS.
>>341238535
He's probably a pretty easy person to work with?
Homo Ludens are the "people that play".
Homo Faber are those that create.
Through play, new things and concepts can be created, thus Ludens are sometimes also Fabers.
Kojima has stated that the game will upend the player's expectations of what the game is actually about after several hours into the game. This is probably the point where the game turns from a more guided, linear experience to something open ended, possibly freeform creation based like many survival games currently on the market.
Maybe it's supposed to let us recreate Chapter 3 for ourselves.
>>341215437
He certainly knows what music to pick
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KnrGMHhnqrw
>>341238535
He literally only appeared in Walking Dead Survivor Instinct and this game
>>341228771
>>6 dog tags
>>5 people
>So, he's the sixth?
good find
yeah i guess hes the sixth, and the 5 other are dead?
a war veteran?
>>341235385
> pretentious preten gets pretentious
MFW ALL PRETEN TRIGGER KEKED FERRARA GOO JUICE
HAHAHSHSHAHAHSHAHSKZ LO WHXO ESS JN W OK WO192O4 I R IEIEIW6CUDOW OK WA KKK2A WALK W U 4J ESS J X BEI2HSBR V RO
>>341239629
n o i c e
>>341216216
Nice big dubs dude.
>>341239629
MOTHER FUCKING TWIST
The trailer was bad. It really reminded me of Prometheus, I don't know why.
Show me the gameplay, Hackjima. I don't give a fuck about your trailers anymore.
>>341238685
http://www.youdubber.com/index.php?video=k0ladBsb7rg&video_start=0&audio=2KYYVrBX4v0&audio_start=181
>trailer full of symbolism for kojima's departure from konami and the fact that he lost his "baby" metal gear solid
>trailer has absolutely to relevance to the actual game
>basically a massive fuck you trailer made for konami
>>341240505
no*
>>341240505kill yourself
OK in a more literal sense, might have to do with a man being punished after doing something and punished by the military organization to death by being stranded on an island. Man slowly goes crazy while slowly dying and it go into his past to have flashback events. Open world on the island. Making it a mix in uncharted gameplay with the division. This is a nightmare the character has why on the island.
>direct japanese translation is hitori no jima (Island of one)
>Hitori Nojima is the author of the Metal Gear novels
>The Battle of Iwo Jima (19 February – 26 March 1945) was a major battle in which the U.S. Marines landed on and eventually captured the island of Iwo Jima from the Japanese Imperial Army during World War II. The American invasion, designated Operation Detachment, had the goal of capturing the entire island, including the three Japanese-controlled airfields (including the South Field and the Central Field), to provide a staging area for attacks on the Japanese main islands.[4] This five-week battle comprised some of the fiercest and bloodiest fighting of the War in the Pacific of World War II. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Iwo_Jima)
I think I'm onto something here
>>341240157
>gameplay
there's no game yet anon. There's nothing more than ideas, a team, and a game engine so far.
He made his studio not even a year ago, it's impossible for their to be a game.
>>341241002
some possibly interesting parts of the article:
>The importance of the battle to Marines today is demonstrated in pilgrimages made to the island, and specifically the summit of Suribachi.[69] Marines will often leave DOG TAGS, rank insignia, or other tokens at the monuments in homage
>Of between 20,530 and 21,060 Japanese defenders entrenched on the island, from 17,845 to 18,375 died either from fighting or by ritual suicide. Only 216 were captured during the course of battle. After Iwo Jima, it was estimated there were no more than 300 Japanese left alive in the island's warren of caves and tunnels. In fact, there were close to 3,000. The Japanese bushido code of honor, coupled with effective propaganda which portrayed American G.I.s as ruthless animals, prevented surrender for many Japanese soldiers. Those who could not bring themselves to commit suicide hid in the caves during the day and came out at night to prowl for provisions.
>"Raising the Flag on Iwo Jima" is a historic photograph taken on 23 February 1945 by Joe Rosenthal. It depicts five Marines and a U.S. Navy corpsman raising an American flag (replacement flag) atop Mount Suribachi.[14] The photograph was extremely popular, being reprinted in thousands of publications. Later, it became the only photograph to win the Pulitzer Prize for Photography in the same year as its publication, and ultimately came to be regarded as one of the most significant and recognizable images of the war, and possibly the most reproduced photograph of all time.[14] Of the SIX MEN depicted in the picture, three (Harlon Block, Franklin Sousley, and Michael Strank) were killed in action; the three survivors of the battle (John Bradley, Rene Gagnon, and Ira Hayes) became celebrities upon the publication of the photo.
I don't think the trailer is "pretentious", but I DO think people are overthinking it.
Even if you do manage to glean some information from it, it's all contextless andmeaningless without anything to coroborate it with. You could get more meaning out of a Jackson Pollock painting.
No, the only thing this trailer says, is there's going to be a game with full, 100% Kojima crazy, with zero continuity or corporate mandates to get in the way.
And that's enough.
>>341241545
This picture somehow reminds me of Norman Reedus standing on the beach at the end of the trailer.
some more interesting stuff:
>Unfortunately for the landing force, the planners at Pearl Harbor had completely misjudged the situation that would face Gen. Schmidt's Marines. The beaches had been described as "excellent" and the thrust inland was expected to be "easy." In reality, after crossing the beach, the Marines were faced with 15-foot-high slopes of soft BLACK VOLCANIC ASH
>The Japanese kept up a desultory mortar-and-rifle fire as the Americans gradually crowded more and more men and equipment onto the beach. The lack of a vigorous response led the Navy to conclude that their bombardment had suppressed the Japanese defenses.[25] Gen. Kuribayashi was far from beaten, however. After allowing the Americans to pile up men and machinery on the beach for just over an hour, he unleashed the undiminished force of his countermeasures. Shortly after 1000 hours, everything from machine guns and mortars to heavy artillery began to rain down on the crowded beaches.
The dead animals on the beach could be the result of the mortars firing into the ocean or represent the American soldiers.
That's all I found
>>341241002
>direct japanese translation is hitori no jima
>Hitori Nojima is the author of the Metal Gear novels
can't make this shit up
>>341241002
HITORI NOJIMA = HIDEO KOJIMA
Did he have to get a fucking main character that has downs for fucks sake?
People need to realize that Kojima is a huge westaboo Hollywood fanatic. He wants to make Blockbuster Hollywood flicks. Unfortunately in Japan, they didn't have that so he went and worked in vidya where Japan was prospering. With each iteration of games he got to spill more of his "creativity" in imitating his Hollywood heroes. This is the culmination of all of his hopes and dreams of making it big as a Hollywood-style director!
>>341242206
yeah so you can relate to him better
>>341242292
Well I'm sorry anon, but I can't relate to retards.
>>341217086
best post
>>341242034
Black ash at the start of the trailer (the whole beach is black ash really)
>>341242868
The beach, the rock on the right side reminds me of a battleship but whatever.
Definitely is a volcanic island though
>>341242986
Iwo Jima today. Again, black ash
>>341217724
Ulysses
Hyperion Cantos
Jackie Chan
Fuck.
>>341215437
THE END OF EVANGELION
YET ANOTHER FINAL: DEATH STRANDING
>>341232938
Shit, what do /sci/ have against engineers
>>341217729
>animal farm
>symbolism
kys neogoof
>>341234248
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThutNUSMDfY
You think?
It'll come out right after Silent Hills
>>341242291
not really because he's still working for japs
>>341244735
Yeah but Sony Pictures is a films branch and I'm sure he's getting hook ups with those guys now that he works for Sony m8. Dude is finally close to making his Hollywood movies. Even got Kiefer Sutherland for Snake in MGSV. People need to realize that he wants to make movies and not actually games.
>>341229331
OF THE CRATER
All the letters that were producing string in the trailer.
aa naentrs dyd jame nln eatsting
>>341244979
ironically if he actually made a hollywood movie it would fucking bomb
>post yfw your iq just isn't high enough to comprehend the trailerOCELOOOOOOOTTTTEEEE
>crtl+f"pretentious"
>27 matches
Just leave this here for you.
http://crossfade.io/#!/fletgjluk9
No, Norman! No!
>>341246290
What the fuck
>dissolve
>and make your
>heart proud
>soon i'll come around
>lost and never found
>waiting for my words
>seen but never heard
>buried underground
>but i'll keep coming
your a fucking ghost or god or adam
>>341246290
oh fuck
>the whales have umbolelical cords
What did he mean by this?
>>341244404
kek
>>341246952
WE INTERSTELLAR NOW BOYS
>>341246952
I thought it was Adam as soon as they showed his stomach.
>>341247026
>>341247093
or maybe a fallen angel
>>341215437
ON THE REDGE
>>341246992
mammals
>>341247354
>in an industry full of Otaku Japs, one man stands alone
what does it mean?
>seven seals
>first is a crown
>>341216216
>le pretentious meemee
Stop.
>>341247590
Watch Southland Tales
>>341215437
ON THE EDGE
Oh shit, that's the Walking Dead guy.
What was his name again?
>>341247908
NORMAN REEDUS
>>341218915
so he probably sank most of his avaliable money to be able to have the right to play a song and use a face just for a self-insert.
who will take the blame of the game being shit now that he left konami?
Wait so first I thought Norman's character was cuffed to his wife, who gave birth to the infant. Wife is missing somehow. But then they showed C-section scars on a boy (male). Does this imply he gave birth?Shit's pretentious as fuck, OP is right
>>341245596
A lot of these theories are total bunk, don't feel bad, anon.
It looks likely to be a Prometheus/Adam/sci fi game, which I'm hyped for.
Inb4
>NOT ORIGINAL
>NO GAMEPLAY
Honestly, all you pessimistic fucks can fuck off, there's nothing wrong with being excited for something.
>>341218439
Because it's the 10th anniversary of GIANT ENEMY CRAB.
>>341248223
drink some horse piss, shitposter
>>341216216
>he didn´t get it
>>341246290
>other instruments hit just as the credits appear on screen
>when norman walks near the flying things the chorus starts
>instant fade to black when the backing vocals come in
Had to be done on purpose.
>>341215437
KOJIMA EVANGELION GAME HYPE
http://crossfade.io/#!/8y8u1k1z2r
So does this Walking dead guy fuck Kojimas daughter or something? Why are the two sticking together so closely? Even after changing studios? The fuck? Are they gay and in love?
>>341215437
ON THE EDGE
Has anyone deciphered the sound effect at the end yet?
>>341232990
>>>But then the baby vanishes
Ocelotte?!
>>341248719
They are both big fans of eachother.
My compiled tinfoil hat theory
I hate Norman Reedus.
>All those posters saying it was going to be the second half of TPP
Sorry, everyone
>>341248869
>implying it can't still be
what if this is actually the pre-quel to bloodborne's fishing hamlet?
>>341241002
Island of One sounds way cooler than Death Stranding
>There was a baby crying in PT.
>There's a baby crying in Death Stranding
>Norman Reedus
>Norman Feedus
Cheeky Kojima still making PT.
The necklace things spell out M I L L E R
>>341216606
SUCC
>>341215437
>Dead whales on a beach
wtf I hate Japan now
>>341243712
Engineers are literally chads and jocks
Of course mr physical chemistry neckbeard is gonna be pissed at them
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IYM7QkJi8s
OH FUCK!
>>341228619
Is it just me or are there letters underneath the dogtags?
>Be Kojima
>Get fired for spending too much money and taking too long to make games
>Start my own Indie company
>Make something that looks better than everything else I have made in less than 6 months
Was Konami just holding Kojima back?
>>341224029
duffin-kemmer and shwarzschild radius equations?
>>341249560
>No whales were harmed in the making of this trailer
>>341249702
dont be so pretentious konami has always been a hack and have no idea why /v/ sucks his dick
>>341249702
Considering Sony is throwing money at Kojima, yes.
>>341248719
Somebody post the Kojima tweet where he says he's "not a gay"
>>341249679
Decifer?
>>341249145
Konami owns the MGS IP, idiot. How many times do we have to go through this
>>341249741
i don't understand these comics, what is their purpose?
>>341249940
>Decifer
Decipher human genes
>>341249940
Peace?
>>341250020
Absurdist humor
ストランジンぐ
>>341249741
>>341250020
i don't understand them either, but they're fucking adorable. It's by the same artist that did chibi Chen right?
It's probably some dystopian man vs. machine/ technology scenario combined with some supernatural or psychic elements.
>>341250020
I don't think this series follows any reason, it's justcutedrawn girls doing randumb shit. I can't get over the fact how funny they look, I love it
>>341216976
underrated
>>341216976
>Dat Joost
>Dat Ishmael
pretty good
>ctrl + f "high iq"
>10 matches
found a game for me it seems
>>341215437
He's Gray Fox.
>call a trailer pretentious
>'haha yeah man it is'
>call a kojima trailer pretentious
>'TROLL ALERT HOW DARE YOU FUCKING INSULT THE GOD KOJIMA LE RUSE CRUISE CONTINUES'
>>341218439
Kojima loves kino so he obviously loves crab legs, too.
>>341220956
Ey, stop posting manga, faggot.
>>341218439
Its a HIGH IQ game
>>341250880
why is my language's word for "cinema" currently the TOP meme on /tv/ ? Care to explain?
>>341234248
All art is about the artists life in some way or another, idiot.
I appreciate Kojima for finding these obscure artists to place in trailers.
Kojima drones need to be lined ip on the streets and shot. You faggots are the main reason he turned into such a hack.
>>341251271
I hope you are joking.
>>341216216
Damn, you sure managed to trigger /v/ with your Kojima hate, lad.
>>341251089
because multiple words for "cinema" was already a meme, kino wasn't already used, kino is new and novel, foreign, and a humorous sounding word in english context, contrasting with "film" "flick" "movie" etc.
>>341217452
I've seen this a billion times and every time it gets cuter
>>341216976
>Ishmael isn't hiding under the bed
>>341223501
thx drooling doggo of wisdom
>>341250859
Most people get pretty defensive when you call something they like pretentious, not just kojimadrones.
>>341250859
Thisu
>>341251586
Also thisu
>>341216216
>most pretentious thing I've ever seen
someone is triggered by a game that doesn't have a gun in the foreground
>>341248809
That's fucking dumb.
I'd believe volcanic ash but where the fuck did Iwo Jima come from?
>>341226653
>mumble
>teamspeak
>discord
one of these is not like the others
>>341257193
fucking incredible rebuttal