>XBOX SCORPIO
>6 TERAFLOPS
>PS4 NEO
>4 TERAFLOPS
Has Sony become the new Nintendo with under-powered hardware?
>>341135061
DELETE THIS
>>341135061
>Less power
>Actually has exclusives
>>341135061
>Sony has already started production on the Neo
>can't upgrade the hardware now
wow sony is fucked
A 1/3rd less powerful than Xbox
You can dual boot a 2nd terrabyte harddrive with Win10 OS just for gaming.
You'll have your PC's power that blows Scorpio out the ass, and can still use your original Win7/XP for normal stuff.
It's also ridiculously cheaper. Xbox as a console is finished.
>>341136602
>everyone has a GTX 1080 PC by default
>>341135061
>all that power
>no gaems
>>341135704
>Sony
>Exclusives
good one, anon
>>341136602
>Everyone could buy the equivalent of one in 2017, end up with 3x selection of games.
>>341136602
>I post in vidya forums everyday
>I can only afford one platform
>I shit on other platforms because mommy wont buy me everything I want
The PS4 actually has exclusives though
Nah, Nintendo always had games. Sony became the new Jaguar, with shitty hardware and no games.
There's a reason "neo" isn't being announced today. MS showed their hand too early, they fucked up bad.
>>341137383
Yeah, the reason being Neo is complete shit compared to Scorpio and would make Sony look even worse than usual.
Bit wars.
>Xbox
>CPU: 32-bit 733 MHz
>PS2
>294.912 MHz
IT'S FUCKING OVER, PS2 IS DOOMED
>>341135061
>>341137168
I just gave advice for a more cost effective solution to experience PC + Xbone games.
The console dies but it lives on PC, you still have to buy their games?
Don't be salty by intelligent advice. You are also covered if they pull ANOTHER Scorpio.
Compared to Sony this is quite a good bang for your buck really, just embrace their choice.
What's a teraflop, anyway? Never heard of it before
>>341137892
>I can only afford one platform
sucks being underaged with no job huh
>>341137952
90% of the idiots don't know a shit about it they are just swapping their dicks around hurr durr it has bigggeeeeeeer terraflops mate!
>>341138192
5 billion Transistors!
Scorpio has an 8 core CPU
>decide wait out on this console generation for a bit
>it's already over
>>341135061
the right question is : why the fuck would anyone buy a console at this point? Those are the machines that were supposed to last "years"? The "next gen"? what a joke.
>>341138184
I've got a kick ass computer that just got a whole lot better thanks to Microsoft Win10 killing their console exclusivity. VR ready as well, must suck being left out on current trends since you don't know how to cut the fat in budgeting.
>>341138502
It will have been 4 years when Scorpio is released m8
>>341138673
>I can only afford one platform
>that means you can only afford one platform too
nah mate I have a job and white skin.
Sorry bout it
>>341138682
nah
scorpio is an overpowered xbone. In 4 years there will be the new Xbox, they will release this shit around 2017 christmas
>>341138491
This.
Even the fucking Wii U lasted longer than the Xbone.
>>341135061
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>>341135061
What can I do with the teraflops tho?
like bill gates said 4 teraflops is more than enough!
>>341135061
DELETE THIS!
>>341139332
>than the xbone
what about the PS4? with the NEO coming out wont the PS4 have the shortest life span of any console ever made?
Glad I didnt fall for the memes and daily /v/ shills
>>341136602
To be fair 6 tflops puts it above everything but a GTX 1080. The 1070 is at 5.7 tflops and everything else falls in line behind it.
I've never been one to complement consoles for their power, but the Scorpio is a powerful piece of hardware.
Now let's see if they can keep the costs down or if it will cost more than it should.
>>341137650
This. Who cares if it has 2 more terafucks. Xbone is still absolute shit because MS doesn't care about gaming. Xbone is just now coming to fruition after almost 3 years trying to flex in front of a mirror and masturbating to pictures of itself.
MS cares more about games than Sony
>>341138491
>>341139332
It isn't though. The Neo/Scorpio are literally new GPUs and OCing the shitty CPU's the PS4/Xbone already use. They even let you play the older xbone/ps4 games.
>>341138491
Yes and no. Effectively generations are over. Consoles have moved into x86/64 architecture and will probably release new hardware iterations that run on shared software. The Xbox One and Scorpio will run the same games, just at different settings. Then when the iteration after that comes out all three will run the same stuff. Then maybe after that the Xbox One will get phased out while the Scorpio and the two iterations after that are running the same games.
Basically the iPhone model but dragged out to every 3-4 years instead of every 1-2 years.
>>341139909
Too bad both the neo and scorpio are still using the shitty AMD tier CPUs.
Its the bit wars all over again.
>>341140053
>MS doesn't care about gaming
>literally put Xbox exclusives on PC and even give you a copy of the other should you buy it on either platform
k
>>341140234
>Sony
>the company that put a 'share' button on their controller
The Scorpio is literally an i5+1070 desktop Windows computer. No one will notice because Xbox has no exclusives
>>341140410
Games are pretty GPU intensive. As long as the CPU is powerful enough to no bottleneck it we're fine.
>>341140628
CPU is 8 cores
>Xbox says 4k is the target
Fuck you xbox.
Right now you can't play 4k 30fps unless you have a 1080 and it costs $700 - if you add on a CPU, mobo, and all those additional parts it's going to cost like $1100+. Yeah they'll take a loss on the hardware maybe, but it will probably end up costing $1k at least.
Either that or Microshit lied about 4k.
DELETE THIS THREAD NOW
>>341135061
>falling for the teraflops meme
>>341140191
What's the fucking point, then?
>>341140501
What's wrong with that?
>>341140774
What? You can get a consistent 50 fps 4k on new games at MAX settings with a 1080
>>341135061
But anon, the Neo is what the S is for Xbone
>>341135061
>Consoles
>Shitflinging about power
>CONSOLES
>>341138982
Do I really need to say I'm rich enough to afford other consoles when I mention VR??
Do you even play and finish the games you buy.
Did you even know that in order to post in /v/ you have to be proficient in 5 respective genres to not be considered a casual shitter?
Did you also know you need a degree of perception to appreciate games. Cause your autistic responses are proof of a very big mental limitation.
>>341140480
>after almost 3 years
>>341137042
>Japanese games aren't games!
Only JP games hitting Xbox are FF15/KH3 because contractual obligation from before the Xbone was revealed a lost cause.
>>341135061
wow some theoretical performance values that each company promised some number from last gen?
Remember when Sony and Microsoft boasted their performance with Tflops but none of the games actually played that well at all and it was all irrelevant?
Oh yea its the same shit, now Console shitters going around saying dumb shit with "my shit has a bigger number than you!" not knowing that it doesn't mean jack shit
now they think its on par with a 980ti even though it'll perform NO WHERE near it
>>341141138
Stay delusional
>>341140243
Good thing I wont live to see that day.
>>341141017
>im triggered right now
>stop pointing out the fact Im a salty poorfag that can only afford one platform
>I just want to partake in platform wars in peace
>>341140774
A few things with that.
-It's a console. It's more efficient with the power it has. An RX 490 (which is close to what I assume the Scorpio will have) can do more in a console than in a PC. It's being able to program for one (well, now two) hardware profile instead of programming for unknown hardware profiles.
-That's the newest cutting edge games at ultra settings. Consoles have always been willing to bump down to high settings (or even lower) to get more framerate/resolution out of games. Also Fallout 4, a major AAA release from last year, runs at ~45fps on a GTX 1070 at ultra settings. Even some major games will hit 4k at mostly max settings on the Scorpio.
-Most likely some more intensive games will run at lower resolutions. Not 1440p lower, but maybe 1600p or 1800p (kinda like how current games will run at 900p). Still a lot better than 99% of gamers, even PC gamers.
>>341137383
>MS showed their hand too early, they fucked up bad.
Neo was already locked in on specs and launching early 2017 by last April when it locked. Bethesda even said they were only told by MS about Scorpio 2 weeks before E3. AMD only got the Custom "design win" recently
There's nothing Sony can do since they have the Semi-customs ordered from AMD except maybe change from Jaguar to Puma cores on the CPU but the GPU was locked in early and it's too late in the game to change it for them since Neo's roadmap is being shown at TGS then released in late 2016 or early 2017.
It's too late for Sony to change Neo unless they scrap the whole project and go for 2018.
>>341141310
You already have. Nintendo started it with their DS years ago
>>341135061
It's a retarded move. The console don't even exist they just announced a vague project way too ahead of time.
What they did in effect is remove ANY reason for people to buy an Xbox now, effectively killing the console.
ITT: People with absolutely no idea what they're talking about.
>>341141797
E3 is all about reassuring shareholders
all these sonyniggers saying graphics dont matter now, just like paid online right?
what a pathetic as hell fanbase
>900p on xbone
HAHA FAT FUCK XBONERS MEME
>Scorpio kicks Neo's shit in with power
g-g-g-graphics dont matter!!! l-l-look our one exclusive!!!!!! t-t-teraflops marketing gimmick!!!! ;_;
>>341141310
I don't see why it's a bad thing. New hardware every few years and a new target for higher end is a good thing.
We only recently came out of one of the most stagnant periods in gaming (2007-2013). It was because the last major push for hardware prior to that (outside of PC) was in 2005. Hardware stagnated, and gaming itself stagnated right alongside it. Regular and incremental hardware upgrades will prevent that from happening again.
>>341141797
I have been dead for twenty years.
>>341141267
>you're delusional for not buying into baseless numbers that don't actually mean anything
>>341135704
Just like ps3
>>341141313
Not even being peaceful, I've spent the entire time getting a ride out of butt blasting and killing threads with this pasta I cooked up.
Getting a reply is fine enough for me, I've got Sony, Nintendo & PC covered. The only thing I left in the dust was Xbone after Titanfall, and there have been no regrets as a console with subpar games isn't worth a purchase.
The good thing is, I'm already covered with PC and have played the best of the multi-plats of this generation in that style.
I've made the superior choices to cover everything, the only thing I enjoy more is reminding a few of the 4 million people they made the wrong choices.
Stay mad and reply, but my job has been done. Facts can't be beaten by half baked opinions, there's a solution to any xbox console available and nothing will save this fact.
>>341142042
>history repeats itself
its not even a meme
You people don't even know what a teraflop is.
Enjoy another before I go.
You gave your mantle to PC.
If you are a PC gamer you won during this entire conference.
Literally no reason to buy Scorpio.
:^)
Especially with the new AMD Cards next year.
Sony + PC Master Race is a powerful combo.
>>341142470
some people think that this theoretical maximum potential number means anything
see: PS4 and Xboner
>>341142310
20 rupees have been placed in your PSN account, Pajeet
>>341142310
>stay mad
>>341135061
Scorpio is going to be an overpriced PC just like the Steam Machines. $800 minimum price tag, calling it now. PS4 Neo will actually be a console with some better hardware and a reasonable price.
>>341142042
Microsoft really wants to go back on having the strongest console.
Won't really help them much though (if at all), but at least they'll be known for having slightly better frame-rate than their competitors.
Also, I know that the PS3 techinically was more powerful than the 360, but it still had worse multi-plats (with some rare exceptions of course).
>>341140480
>Win10 Exclusive
>>341137952
This, I first saw it here a month or so ago and thought that it was a joke.
>>341142565
>Sony + PC Master Race
Fuck off, Sonyggers.
>>341135061
>Watching the Sonyggers that bragged about the PS4's 40% power increase suddenly backpeddling about how power isn't important now that Scorpio is more powerful than Neo
>>341138421
Moar cores = moar games, right? Isn't that how that works?
>>341142659
This is the same shit they pulled in 2013
>wow guys we got a 1.84Tflop machine
>a 560ti and 7850 is also around 1.84Tflops
>none of the PS4 games perform anywhere near a 560ti or 7850
>>341135061
>a single reason to buy the xbox over a pc doesn't exist
>while atleast sony has some exclusive bideo games
Yeah nah doesn't matter what they do at this point, xbox has lost everything. Microsoft will atleast be k tho
>>341142695
Cell processor had a garbage architecture and was very difficult to program.
>>341138421
cores are not indicative of performance
an i3-2130 with 2 cores and 4 total threads outperformed an AMD FX-8120 with 8 cores
>>341142042
I am a sony supporter and hate ms on gaming due to crimes against gaming
I am pretty impressed about their conferance desu. Cross platform with pc copies with windows 10 games is damn sweet and new xbox looks powerful so far
>>341138502
A console bought tomorrow will not magically stop working the day it's successor is released. It will still last years.
>>341142315
>that backpedal
>>341143013
And people will still try to convince others that AMD makes good hardware
>>341140737
The thing is that the CPU is a fucking bottleneck, 6 TFLOP GPU is gonna be held back by those shitty Jaguar cores.
>>341143272
AMD got a lot better with their FX-8350 which boasted like a 4.5ghz core clock and 8 cores but Intel challenged them hard with their Ivy-bridge shit and it drowned out AMD to the point that AMD hasn't released a processor in almost 5 years
>>341143272
Once you see the Nvidia shitshow inside the NX, you would begin wishing Nintendo chose AMD.
>>341137952
Neither do most people spouting that shit.
Just like until like around 2 months ago next to nobody knew what 20 ticks were.And we better not mention the whole 8bit/16bit deal back in the 90's.
>>341138421
The existing XB1 and PS4 are already 8-cores. Cores are worthless as a measure of performance.
My fucking phone has an 8-core CPU.
http://kyokojap.myweb.hinet.net/gpu_gflops/
The Xbone is capable of 1311.5 GFlops while the PS4 is capable of 1840, making the PS4 "40% more powerful". The actual difference seen in games wasn't that large because these numbers don't actually have anything to do with gaming but if you do still care, and assuming the numbers OP is providing are correct, Bolo Santosi is capable of 6000 GFlops and the Neo is capable of 4000 GFlops. That means a flip flop in power with the new Xbone model now having 50% more power. However, developers are still struggling to make 8th gen games at the expected graphical fidelity so in reality it's just going to be the same games as on current models but with more anti-aliasing and/or at a higher resolution. Which is nice, but hardly worth the cost if you've already got a console. This is also assuming you even have a 4K TV, because if you don't the only benefit will be that aforementioned anti-aliasing. The only exception to this would be if you plan to get into VR (is Microsoft supporting that?) because in that case you would definitely want one of the new consoles.
Overall if you're thinking about getting the new consoles I would instead recommend keeping your current console and getting a PC to supplement it. All Microsoft had to show was their new console so definitely wait for some actual games to be announced before doing anything. Hopefully the same cannot be said for Sony.
>>341141601
To be fair, Microsoft said "no compromises". So either they lied or this thing really is going to be expensive. Do we know anything about the Neo's price yet?
>>341135061
DELETE THIS!
>>341142747
It's like Ghz. It's a way to measure performance, but you can't really compare between architectures and generations. Like an Intel 3.0Ghz CPU will kick the shit out of an AMD 3.0Ghz CPU.
>>341141601
Unless it's an Xbox One exclusive, they'll have to program it for 4 systems
XB1/Scorpio/PS4/Neo.
If the NX turns out to use the x86 AMD APU like some rumours say, they might be making it for 5 systems.
>>341143841
An intel 3570k at 3.5ghz with 4 cores out performs an AMD-8350 at 4.2ghz with 8 cores.
All jokes and memes aside theyre the first ones to push 4K gaming this hard, and from the looks of it we'll be able to get 60FPS 4K games by next year or so.
Have they set a new standard, don't you guys realize how huge this is for consoles at least
>>341135061
Can't I just play fun video games?
>>341143272
>post says that cores aren't indicative of performance and gives an example
>respond by saying that the hardware is shit if it's not better than something with less cores
>>341138421
and every 8 core cpu that amd has released has been completely destroyed by every 4 core intel cpu
muh cores
>getting hype for 4k at 30fps
Y'all niggas dumb
>>341144036
I never understood why people make pseudo-philosophical posts like this.
>>341143965
I know, I just was too lazy to look up the part numbers for the AMD chip.
Has sony actually confirmed the whole 4 teraflops thing?
>>341144207
Because you blindly hate things without realizing how good of a move this is. Drop out of the /v/ hivemind for a second
>>341144207
That's not pseudo-philosophical. Are you well?
>>341135061
OP, up until the PS3, Nintendo had the more powerful consoles.
>>341137168
Tfw own both ps4 and xbox and my xbox gets played more
>>341144289
Who cares, its not gonna even come close to that performance
They haven't even made mention to 4k games despite the rumors and shit
>>341144289
That's from the Digital Foundry leak or insider information. In one of their PS4k/Neo they mentioned it.
>People think a RX 480 & a Laptop Jaguar CPU can do 4K gaming, or even 1440p with current games
I don't think people realize how demanding higher res gaming is, though it was evident enough /v/ are retards about this shit since we keep hearing "6 TFLOPs = 1070"
Even Neogaf figured this out on the first page of the Neo thread
>>341135061
That MS hardware is gonna flop hard. People didn't like a $500 Xbone. What makes them think people will buy a $600-$800 Scorpio? Because that"s what that shit is going to cost.
and yet it still wont get 1080/60fps and neither will sonys new console
>>341144698
Outdated gif. It's Holiday 2017.
>>341142315
>>341143246
This is why i've never owned a xbox/sony product after gen 6 and i never will.
PC gets most of their shit anyway. I refuse to support either of their practices.
>>341144775
That's what the Xbone S is for
>>341143513
This
>>341144698
Holy shit i laughed so hard.
+1
>>341144721
'4k gaming' is a joke, you would have to spend literally tens of thousands of dollars to get it to run even somewhat okay
its like 10 years away from actually be plausible
>>341144721
Totally, Fry. Nobody took notice to that until you graced us with your presence. What would we do without you?
Reminder that 6 TFLOPS isn't even enough to properly hold 4k gaming which is the big gimmick.
>>341145170
Uh no you don't, the reference 1080 gets 50 fps on new games with ultra settings 4K
>Has Sony become the new Nintendo with under-powered hardware?
Actually, Microsoft is pulling a Sony, a PS3-gen Sony. Think about it, the Xbox Scorpio will likely release for $599 US Dollars, where as the Playstation Neo will likely release for one hundred dollars less, maybe even at $449 depending on what tech they use.
That's basically exactly what happened with the 360/PS3 gen, with the 360 gaining a massive lead early on due to its lower pricepoint. So this might actually fuck over Microsoft far more than they expected.
>>341144610
Sony's roadmap was leaked before they confirmed it as well. It was never going to be at E3. Reveal at TGS, then ship in late 2016/early 2017.
Sony is stuck with 4TF.
>>341145170
But that's wrong you fucking retard
>Microsot pushing already for an upgrade of their console that was supposed to last years. The "next gen" and all that jazz.
>Xbox owners apparently loving to be fucked over and gloating over it.
>mfw
>>341144721
Don't think you actually know how 4K works. bunch of absolute retards in this thread
>>341145170
>you would have to spend literally tens of thousands of dollars
what is people talking out of their asses?
>>341145463
It's an optional upgrade. Nothing on it will be exclusive except for VR shit
>>341145463
>4 years isn't years
Pushing 4K will suck up all the extra juice without improving the graphics, even then i have my doubts Scorpio could run the likes of say Battlefront at 4K/60fps without lowering the shadow quality/draw distance etc even more
Devs will stick to 1080p/30fps & focus more on shit like Dynamic GI, which will make games look way better, most people don't even have a 4K TV anyway
>>341144610
>In one of their PS4k/Neo they mentioned it.
*In one of ther PS4k/Neo videos they mentioned it.
>>341145447
I'm really curious as to where this leaves Nintendo. They'll probably be behind again...
>>341145398
360 was a year early as well.
Sony just fucked Phil into a hole he can't get out of.
Welp with that move they effectively killed the Xbox one. No one in their right minds will buy one now. RIP
All these people thinking that less exclusives are a good thing are clearly Ps2 era newfags.
Exclusives, like it or not, have steered market competition in this industry since the NES first debuted. The race to tie down exclusives that pushed each platform's respective hardware is what created the golden age of gaming from the 4th generation to the 6th generation. Exclusives, so to speak, have been the name of the game since the height of the industry.
The more the lines are blurred between platforms, the easier it is for developers to patent out a game that works on everything so they can sell it to as many people as possible and load it down with bullshit post-release, the more homogenized and stale videogames will become. Even more than they are right now. Why do you think practically ALL the multiplats we've had this generation have been underwhelming or just straight up dogshit, but most of the exclusives across all platforms have maintained a sense of integral design and quality control?
Microsoft just went ahead and took that first step beyond the point of no return by eliminating platform exclusivity on their brand, the rest of the industry is likely to follow and from there it gets even worse. Calling it right now.
Who the fuck wants to even upgrade already? Seriously my console hasn't shown any wear yet and I already put an extra 2TB on it. I see 0 incentive to upgrade at all for like 400+ dollarinos. I'll just keep buying games at this rate. Smartest thing Sony could do with their new console is make external hard drives capable so people can easily make a switch but even then its still fucking dumb.
>>341145463
>its ok when sony does it
>>341146127
Only 2 of the top 20 selling PS4 games were exclusive & they were both PS3 ports, so not really exclusive
>>341146154
>Who the fuck wants to even upgrade already?
the sorpio isn't out till late 2017, might as well be a 2018 console. doesn't change the fact that the scorpio will be MUCH better than a neo.
>>341135061
>buying a steambox 2.0
>A worse steambox since you can only get marketplace games
Yeah no, xbone is ded
>>341145798
all tv's are moving towards tv, and 8k is in the works. this isn't a "niche" market. everything is transitioning over. It's like when standard HD came out. There's no avoiding it. If all new tv's being made, are being made at the 4k standard, eventually, your old tv's will die out, and you'll buy a new one, which will automatically be 4k. this is how things work
the creators aren't creating 4k content yet, because no console has announced support for it yet
people said the same thing about color tv, that it was just a fad, and nobody will buy them
>>341146354
The Scorpio is much better than the Neo in the same way that the PS4 is way better than the Xbox One.
>>341146154
do you even hdr?
>>341146323
Sales numbers are not indicative of quality when FIFA, CoD, and Assassin's Creed are always top sellers. Playstation itself has always had a very low attach rate since the Ps2 regardless.
What those numbers DO indicate is the influx of casuals plaguing the industry right now and buying up the endless schlock of AAA developers. Again, you can thank the Ps2 for that, not that I hate the system itself or anything
>>341142695
Games ran better on the 360 though, take Red Dead Redemption for example
360 - 720p 30fps
PS3 - 640P 30fps
>>341146727
>640P 20fps with less grass
fix'd
>>341141017
>When /r/pcmasterrace and /r/atheism collide.
>>341138318
wouldn't a single xbox take forever to make just to solder those on?
>>341139020
2017 Christmas IS 4 years, anon
>>341146860
>what are assembly lines
>>341146953
what, so its 5 billion people lined up, each soldering a single transistor each?
ITS ALL OVER
XBOX WINS ITS GOD MODE
SONY FAGS ON SUICIDE WATCH
PC FAGS CRYING IN THE CORNER
CHINKSTATIONERS AND FRIENDLESS PC AUTISTS
ABSOLUTELY
B
T
F
O
OH WHAT ABOUT NINTENDOFAGS?
THEY BEEN DEAD FOR YEARS
LOL
>>341146727
Because the 360's GPU was better than the PS3's.
Getting the PS3 version to be better required unloading traditionally GPU orientated tasks onto the Cell CPU, this required pretty intimate knowledge of Cell not to fuck it up badly.
>>341147070
Yeah but it's made in China so it doesn't take too long.
>>341147163
nice copypasta
>>341146608
>all tv's are moving towards tv
I know you meant to say "all tvs are moving towards 4k" but what you wrote sounded hilarious. Also, I think you and that other anon are in agreement, he was just describing how immensely difficult it is to run modern games in 30fps/4k, for example even a 980ti struggles heavily with it.
So, basically, by the time most people have 4k televisions, even with advancements in gpus I still think we'll be playing at 1440p at most. If you think about it, we've had 1080p as the standard for so many years now, yet the Xbone still plays games at 720p like Quantum Break for one example, and most others at 900p which is quite a step down from 1080p.
TL;DR - I think you and that anon are in agreement.
>>341147070
Yes, it's more faster that way.
>>341135061
>6 Teracocks
>for a Windows 10 shilling machine
>>341135061
>Has Sony become the new Nintendo with under-powered hardware?
>Op doesnt remember how PS1 and PS2 were the most underpowered hardware of its time yet they sold like hotcakes
Or he just confirmed he is a underage microshiller
>>341136832
Yes? And what is this
>>341141086
Ah yes, Sony has been about nothing except games since day one really. If you think about, they are the only company out there who holds their customers happiness over any bottom line. They wanted to make the online more secure, so they had to start charging to afford the better security.
People want to be able to play older games on a newer system, so they made ps now
They partnered with activision to give us map packs earlier for COD so we don't have to wait so long
On top of all that they have the best exclusives too. With games like Bloodborne, etc, it seems like I'm never not on my PlayStation
>>341147715
Not to mention the Wii.
>>341147726
DELETE THIS
>>341144698
fucking kek
>>341145060
And the S is nearly identical to the Neo (if the hardware spec leaks are true). So the Scorpio just seems like MS trying to grasp for relevancy in this console gen. Or worse, admitting defeat and trying to Steam Machine that shit.
>>341147726
Games for Windows 10?
>>341148034
The S doesn't have upgraded hardware (beyond a UHD Blu-Ray Drive and HDMI 2).
It isn't more powerful than the XB1.
>>341140053
>HAHAHAHA TAKE THAT XBONER, THE PS4 IS MUCH BETTER THAN XBONE, LOL 768p 30fps? WE GOT 1080p60 XD
>W-who c-cares if PS4k is 2 teraflops lowers than Scorpion? G-graphics don't matter
>>341148034
God forbid MS try anything new or innovative
>>341148034
>30% more power
stay mad sonycuck
>>341147726
>shovelware, shit, and halo wars 2
>>341145118
Most people on this board know nothing.
>>341139909
>better than everything but a 1080
>mfw I'll be running a PC with two
>>341146289
No it's not. If Sony announce the same thing you can bet your ass I'm going to rant all the same. it will just prove that this next gen thing was all lies and rubbish and that there is really no point to owning a console anymore.
>>341148235
What's innovative about what they're doing?
>>341148458
>Im a stupid cunt
ok anon. Maybe crawl out from under that rock and read a book then you ignorant cuck
>>341135061
>PS Aquarius in 2018
> 8Teraflops
>Xbox Cygnus 2019
>9 teraflops
The cycle repeats, consoles become the new smartphones, new upgrade every two years. Welcome to the future.
>>341135061
Would older titles run better on the scorpio?
techbabby here
what's a teraflop
>>341139909
That's only one benchmark.
For example my 780 Ti only does 5.04 teraflops, but still has a higher memory bandwidth than the Scorpio. (336GB/s vs 320GB/s)
thats still nintendo
>>341148804
And continue to eat the shit you're given with a smile like a good goy. retard.
>>341148806
The Xbone will most likely be 3 years old by the time Scorpio releases. An upgrade every 3 years isn't really that bad even if you're poor. And our game libraries will always work on new models.
>>341148806
I'd be ok with this if they offered a discount if you trade in your previous console
>>341135704
Oh boy, I can't wait towatchAssassin's Creed on PS4 Neo in 4k!
THE PIXELS THO
>ENHANCED PIXELS
>>341149079
4 years old actually
>>341149079
>It's alright, just accept it
My PC will be 4 years old at the end of the year. Last gen last 8.
3 years is abysmal.
I'm gonna laugh like a motherfucker when it comes out at $599 and the same retards who got an Xbone day one get this day one
>>341149202
Gamestop will jump on that opportunity. They did it with the N3DS.
>>341135061
Well, PS2 was weaker than Xbox but PS2 had no problem selling, and selling, and selling. So I don't know if Sony is running scared, but it seems like there will definitely be a noticeable difference.
>>341142845
Sonyggers are laughing at how Microsoft eliminated itself by going PC access, even if Scorpio is more powerful it won't be worth it at its price compared to a latest gfx upgrade.
>Neo niggers are going to be missing out on the highest quality pixels possible on any machine
>mfw
Any fa/g/ here ? What's a teraflop supposed to be ?
>>341148806
I want to die
>>341149063
you do realise the new PS comes out later this year right you dumb nigger?
whatever continue to shitpost and imply people do things to fit your personal agenda. I dont have time to reply to children.
Enjoy your teens
>>341149461
PC Access won't affect the vast majority of users. They just want a console under their TV to play the latest CoD and FIFA's.
This is one of those moves that Microsoft makes to try and make it look like they care about PC Gaming.
>>341149485
Yes, that's PC.
You are talking about machines right?
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>>341149527
i'm a f/a/g
whats a teraflop
>>341149527
FLOP = floating-point operations per second
Terra = 1*10^12
>>341137650
This
>>341148806
>Console users lose their last shitposting argument about how consoles are "simpler" and "just work".
>>341149730
whazzat mean
>>341149375
I was wrong. This anon is correct:>>341149345
The original Xbox had a lifespan of 4 years and managed to have a bigger library than the GameCube, which had a lifespan of 5 years.
PS1 to PS2 only took like 5 years.
And libraries will be forward and backwards compatible.
>new consoles every 2 years
>we're going the smartphone route
jesus fucking christ
I guess it's time to drop this hobby
>>341135704
So the Wii and WiiU?
>>341149826
How many thing it do per second
>>341135061
Scorpio is a new system, Neo is an updated current-gen system. There is no foothold for the console war to stand on over this.
>>341149826
it does things really fast
>>341139909
1070 is 6.4TFlops.
>>341149836
It's been 4 years
When will you retards learn that the 360 was unusual in how long it lasted
>>341135061
>that feel when NX is confirmed for 8 teraflops
>>341136602
>windows xp in fucking 2016
god i hate you people
>>341143670
>how fast your gpu can crunch numbers(which is one of the big jobs the gpu has to do) isnt indicative of performance and has nothing to do with gaming
>>341147726
>exclusively
Oh, you kids make me laugh.
>>341149985
And entitled babbies are still crying that games are dropping 360/PS3.
>>341149985
it hasn't even been 3 years, retard
the ps4 was released in november 2013
>>341140053
>MS doesn't care about gaming
Literally bringing games to mere people unlike sony who tries to lure people in to buying ps4 with exclusive
>>341149827
but the jump from ps1 to ps2 was more impressive (gameplay, technic) than from 360 to one.
>>341149985
>>341150136
5 years is the average before the successor is released. If something was released earlier it was because the predecessor fucking failed.
Seeing as these consoles have no exclusive games let alone games at all you have to explain to me why they want to release MORE of these platforms that have nothing to run.
>>341150206
Bullshit, they are going for a phyrric victory, "as long as it runs on Microsoft environment we have you" which is dumb as fuck.
I thought the neo was somewhere around 5 or 5.5 teraflops?
>>341142141
Nothing will change if they keep making games that have to run on previous iterations of the hardware as well.
>>341150210
Because the performance jump % wise wasn't as drastic.
>>341150479
4.18
http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2016-sonys-plan-for-playstation-4k-neo-revealed
>>341150206
if you remove exclusives there is literally no point to buying consoles in the first place
you can save up the money and build a pc that is hundreds of times more powerful than even the newest microsoft meme machine
>>341135061
TFLOPS don't mean anything. You have to take everything into account from the other hardware used, software used and even how the game it's self is made.
It'd be like a car engine. In a car it's going to work fine, but the exact same engine in an 18 ton truck isn't going to be able to do anything.
>>341150754
Console players don't want to play on PC.
>>341140628
Which sounds amazing, but let me tell you why it's not. The Scorpio is being touted as a 4k 60fps machine.
The 1070 struggles to keep 60fps at 1440p. And that's when it's paired with a processor that's massively more powerful than what could potentially be in a console. In a year and a halfs time when its released PC will be getting 11-13 Tflops cards, meaning it'll already be outdated.
WHAT THE FUCK IS A TERAFLOP
>>341151214
the new buzzword
Wonder where MS are getting the extra power, but most predictions are for holiday 2017, so that gives AMD a whole year to work on new cards... So maybe MS are banking on Polaris's successor while the PS4 Neo is targeted at either holiday 16 or early 2017 using the newly released polaris architecture.
Perhaps they are also banking on a successor to Jaguar or straight up using Zen?
>>341151098
This Tbh
PC is full of cheaters, hackers and autistic 'professional gamers' who ruin games
>>341151214
THE MORE TERAFLOPS THE BETTER YOU RETARD IT'S NOT THAT HARD TO UNDERSTAND
>>341135061
Those numbers don't mean shit if the parts aren't worth a shit. Example on GPUs for instance. The R9-390 has 8gb of vram 4 of which just idle in the background for the fuck of it.
>>341141008
consoles are literally computers
>>341151214
How hard it'll flop.
>>341151098
>>341151264
you realize you ARE playing on a PC, right? It just has pretty packaging
this new hardware race bullshit removes one of the only two benefits to owning a console over a PC and the xboner's lack of exclusives removes the other one
>>341151591
The PC userbase is shit
>>341151494
DELETE THIS THREAD RIGHT NOW
>6
>4
>6 is clearly bigger than 4
Sony is fucking finished.
![1_Zdt2NFm07C9CvZJ_yGF4LQ[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/kF6pcRW.jpg "1_Zdt2NFm07C9CvZJ_yGF4LQ[1].jpg")
>>341151214
they dont want you to know
>>341135061
Microsoft would still need Japanese dev support though
