How likely do you think it is that Zelda Wii U/NX will give players the option to choose from a male or female Link?
If it does, is this a good thing?
Why do people think that you will be able to choose?
Pretty likely. I think it's good. I like playing as females, man.
Not likely.
No. Link is a guy. Mario is a guy.
Unlikely but I would welcome the option. People who are literally angry over having more options in a game are cute.
>>341048596
Link is pretty androgynous so you could just consider the character a male or female depending on your preference.
I think they should just make zelda a guy instead and you get to fuck him at the end of the game
0%
I just want that girly boy link from the first trailer.
Unlikely, and it would definitely be a bad thing. Link is the one of the few iconic constants in series that visually reinvents itself with each new entry.
To change such an iconic character into a customizable player avatar with no set idenity or personality for the sake of pandering would be shitty, fuck the lore, and cheapen the brand all in one foul swoop.
>>341048946
Mario is the same person in every game.
Link is almost always a different person in every game. The only games that it has the same Link is direct sequels
fuck that, when do you get to play as ganon for the whole game?
>>341048596
How about a game where link can travel to two different universes and in one of them he changes into a girl.
Will that please you?
>>341048596
Anyone else not even gonna bother with the game if they involve a gimmick? The DS games, the Wii games...all fucking gimmick trash that have been unable to fucking do anything that matters to the series other than DEGENERATE IT into a extension OF the gimmick.
>>341048937
You're a sad little man, bro. They aren't FEMALES, they are fucking pixels on the screen, you are living out some fantasy of wanting to be a pretty princess. Just go buy a dress and get pegged, you'll feel better.
>>341048596
I'd give it, maybe 20%
Link has clearly been male in all of the media shown so far. People are just trying to apply stupid logic to try and convince themselves it will happen (men can't have long hair?)
I think the only thing pointing to it being possible is how many people want it, and how more sensitive Nintendo has become to these sort of topics (e.g. gay marriage).
I want to say unlikely, but Aonuma listens to bad ideas from fans occasionaly so I can see it happening. It would also be a way to 'surpirse ' people without doing anything to improve the gameplay and he's quite fond of that too.
>>341048839
Tumblrtards and waifufags getting hyped by different artwork of the same character
How many threads a day do we need about this? God damn.
>>341051185until you like it
>>341048596
None.
He already looks like a total cock sucking twink faggot in all the art Neo-LGBTendo has released so far.
>>341051185
/v/ loves drama I guess.... lol
>>341051374
buzzwords: the post
>>341048596
I wouldn't give a shit if they gave you the option. Hell I wouldn't care if they made Link female by default.
What would get my goat though is the swarms of people going "EAT SHIT MANBABIES ZELDA IS OUR FEMINIST GAME NOW NINTENDO IS ON OUR SIDE UR ON THE WRONG SIDE OF HISTORY"
>>341048596
i'd be fine with it if Zelda and Ganondorf were also switched
>>341051654
say it isn't true. he totally looks like a fluid-gendered fag.
>>341051958
>say it isn't true
Ok. It's not true
>>341050708
maybe you should be the one to fuck me, sexy man
>>341051654
>>341051958 again.
Just look how "he" is angling "his" legs here for fuck's sake >>341048596. pussies jump like that.
>>341048596
>How likely do you think it is that Zelda Wii U/NX will give players the option to choose from a male or female Link?
If this happens, I want a Metroid game where you can choose to make Samus a man.
>>341052582
that's retarded. samus doesnt even look like a man
>>341052834
>that's retarded.
Exactly. Just like needlessly gender-swapping Link is.
>>341053069
it's fine in link's case
>>341053972
Then it's fine in Samus' case.
>>341051839
This.
It isn't even what they say that bothers me anymore, it's how fucking predictable they've become.
>>341048937
Man they have you shills start early don't they. Do they pay you overtime since they haven't even revealed it yet?
>>341050271
That's not what Skyward Sword said.
>>341048596
Depends on how they do it.
Wouldn't work in other Zeldas, largely because the other characters and how they relate. It's always girls in charge telling him where to go, and it's worked well.
>>341054131
no it isnt. never swap a woman to a man. men arent so appealing
>>341054443
This. Link is canonically one person reincarnated every hundred years or so, with exception of the Wind Waker Link.
>>341054846
Back to tumblr with you.
>>341052347
That's fan art, you dumb fuck
>>341054131
You know how people on /v/ always say "vote with your wallet?" I'll bet you anything it would actually happen if Metroid were a man. Sex sells, but not dudes.
>>341054443
even if some of them are re-incarnations or relatives in some way, Wind Waker already set the precedent for that not always being the case.
>>341055004
I'm just saying it to be an asshole and show how absurd the concept is. i don't ACTUALLY want a male Samus, that would be stupid.
>>341054263
maybe you're the shill. always goes in the direction that would be a real twist in the movie
>>341052834
The whole point was that Samus didn't look like a woman because of the suit. They could reveal a male Samus in the exact same way and it really wouldn't change anything at all, but people would still throw a huge fit over it.
>>341050561
That sounds interesting but it would let the genie out of the bottle and there would be no stopping things after that. Give them an inch and they want a mile.
>>341054931
you're the one who should go back to tumblr. mras are still sjws, you know
>>341055468
see>>341055242
I hate MRA's just as much as feminists.
>>341055242
I just don't think it's absurd. People have been joking about what if Zelda was a girl for years. Not one person ever wondered what if Metroid were a guy. As I said, sex sells.
>>341055302
>samus in a game revealed to be a man, maybe posing as samus or something neat like that.
that actually sounds cool as fuck.
>>341055302
we all know how samus looks now. she's a hot woman. you really want her to be a man now? shit. you must be a straight woman or a gay man
>>341048596
Calling it now, changing between a guy and a girl is going to be a core game mechanic, whether that means switching genders or switching characters.
>>341049786
This fampie. Ever since Elder Scrolls/Bioware got big with normies, every game needs to have a customizable blank slates or else faggots can't self insert.
Like it or not, Link is an iconic character/character design that shouldn't be changed without a damned good reason. It's not broken, so don't fix it. There are a shit ton of other, more pressing issues with the Zelda formula that are far more important to address than the face of the series that is still popular enough and sells games to this day.
>>341055614
okay, so maybe we both should go to tumblr and team up. whaddya say, pal?
>>341055648
I don't care about the jokes, if it's done it'll just be a shallow attempt to pander to whiny Liberals forcing identity politics into video games
>>341049786
>Link
>identity
>personality
He's got slightly less characterization than Gordon Freeman.
I don't want it. There is no reason that Link couldn't be a girl, and it wouldn't alter the gameplay but I just don't want it.
>>341055242
yeah, man. enough ugly dudes are in games already. we could definitely use more hot women, even if it means changing link.
>>341048596
Who cares? At least it fits within Zelda's reincarnation lore as opposed to just changing an established gendered character for the sake of it like say Mario to female or Samus to male.
>>341055395
Who's 'they?'
>>341056063
Man you are so blinded by ideology that you can't see what's going on. This isn't being done to pander to women or anyone who thinks gender equality means having male/female palette swaps for protagonists. It's being done to pander to horn dogs.
>>341056408
Since WW Link has started to get a lot of facial expressions and character in terms of how he reacts to things.
>>341052582
Thats not really an equal comparison as Metroid is a singular Samus Aran while Zelda is the story of many different Heroes throughout Hyrules history. A female Zelda protagonist is conceivable especially if they decide the game is post wind waker and Ganon is perma dead/Demise's curse is lifted. In which case you could play as any race taking up the mantle of hero as well.
Afterall WW Link wasn't a blood related hero but was still chosen because he had the qualities needed to hold the title.
>>341056720
Use your brain m8. "They" are obviouslythem.
>>341054263
spotted the shill
>>341056408
That's true though, and has been since OoT. Link and his history are more often than not important to the plot/lore, he has his one goals, aspirations, and motivations for adventuring, and despite what faggots say a personality. (Especially post Wind Waker games, when he really started to get more expressive.)
These arn't the NES days anymore, and the franchise has evolved. Link is a character at this point.
>>341056791
So the idiots on the Left aren't constantly bitching about this shit?
>>341056932
Only two Links are blood related, TP Link to the Hero of Time and ST Link to the Hero of Winds.
Also ST is after WW, we generally know the races and what's going on with New Hyrule.
>>341055648
and men can be sexy, too. just look at guts, snake, raiden, adam jensen, big boss, ryu hayabusa, hayate, drake, spider-man, franklin, captain america, ect
Zero chances, Link is, and will always be a dude. Having a female link would be as repulsive as having a male Zelda. I would not be against having a female protagonist, but that protagonist will not have the triforce of courage, and therefore, not be Link, and if the protagonist isn't Link, then it would not be a Zelda game, but a spin off like the Tingle game.
>>341054931
Reincarnation does not imply same gender. Heck, it doesn't even imply same species. What is there to stop Link from being reincarnated as a dog, or a goron, or an ant?
Where does it say Link can't be an ant?
When are we getting a Zelda game where Link is an ant?
Do you know how many ants there are?
It should have happened by now!
>>341057285
I wish I understood half those words.
>>341057313
I still would love the chance to run a Goron at some point.
>>341056509
I definitely want it and millions of other women lovers.
>>341057382
I don't think you understand how reincarnation works. Hell Link could be a cow for God's sake.
>>341057285
Sure, and everyone's interests just happen to be aligned in this case. Who loses is Zelda is a girl? Do you? I guess you do if your idea of losing is when people you don't like to ever get anything they want, but otherwise you don't.
>>341057458
Because Link is/was a young, and therefore is reborn again as a young boy that resembles the original hero.
Just like Zelda is a young girl who resembles the original Zelda, etc. etc.
Did you not even Wind Wanker?
>>341057360
Most traditional video game players are still boys and young men. The right sex sells even better.
>>341057458
Because each Link is the same character reborn again to stop evil you idiot.
The same princess, the same link, and the same evil reborn again and again and again in an endless cycle because of Demise's curse.
>>341058047
But Wind Waker Link wasn't a reincarnation.
>>341058007
Yes, because if they "get what they want" they'll never be satisfied. Next they'll want a trans link, then a trans racial Link, then a non binary gender fluid Link, etc. The fact that Nintendo is even considering bowing to these people shows they don't understand that this is a crowd that will NEVER be pleased.
>>341057458
>>>341054931
>Reincarnation does not imply same gender. Heck, it doesn't even imply same species.
This isn't Hinduism, it's Zelda. Ever notice how Link always looks the same (femine-ish face, long yellow hair, a dude)? That's how the reincarnation works.
>>341058851
I agree.
>I don't want female Link
>>341058812
>the fact that Nintendo is even considering bowing to these people
Except they're not doing that. Do you really think grorious Nipponese sararymen even know what Tumblr is?
>>341058851
What about an ant with a femine-ish face, long yellow hair, and a dude?
>>341059560
>I want female Link.
>>341058851
Link has had a masculine face, brown or pink hair before too.
>>341059781
After the Fire Emblem translation debacle, yes I do.
>>341058259
I bet many of them are gay a f or you know, the men i named can make it a case of "if it's with you, then it's okay."
>>341058812
There's already obligatory traps in video games. That Rubicon was crossed years ago. I don't even know what the hell a trans racial is. Is that like Michael Jackson? Anyway, I don't think this is a slippery slope, or at least it's not very slippery. Women have been arguing for female protagonists that pass the Bechdel test since well before the term Bechdel test was coined. These trans-whatever terms don't even seem well defined enough for SJWs to agree on whether a character even meets their fluidity standard.
>>341048596
That sounds completely pointless and I would oppose it purely on the grounds that Zelda is the wrong genre of game to care about cosmetic options.
It made sense in Pokémon because the player character is just one of many trainers in that world who can battle other player characters. Even then, if you pick the female character, the male character still exists as your rival, so they're not the same person.
Link is the chosen one and a man. If it just so happens that the hero reincarnated in a female body this time, he would still be a man by SJW logic.
This option would be as bizarre as the next Tomb Raider game giving the option to play as Larry Croft.
>>341054443
So you guys like skyward sword when it is convenient I see,
>>341058851
Not every Link had yellow hair
>>341060749
I've always liked SS.
>>341059928
>I want a female Link
more like
>>341059928
>tfw she complains you used low calorie bread and too many vegetables in the sandwich.
>>341060749
You don't have to like Skyward Sword to point out the lore it established.
>>341051070
Where is this artwork? I'd like to see for myself.
>>341060214
What, the fact that they removed the romantic petting minigame? You think the slacktivist Left was the one pulling the strings on that one? The fact that they had it in the first place should give you a hint as to how in touch Japan's taste is with American feminism.
50%
Neo Nintendo and Aonuma are brainless enough to do it, yet there's so much history and LoZ is such a money maker, I doubt the idea would get very far, thank God.
>>341061431
Look up "Zelda e3 Lanyards".
>>341061041Me too ;_;
It's bound to happen eventually in some form given the attention it's been getting and the handful of official comments on the subject, but I've never been entirely convinced that this is going to be the game that does it.
>>341062097
>It's bound to happen eventually in some form
It's called Linkle. It already happened and nobody cared because it's a shitty idea and Linkle is a shitty character.
>>341061672
And the "gay conversion scene", which can mostly be blamed on Allison Rapp, a vocal member of the "slacktivist Left". After the fallout surrounding that, you can't tell me Mainstream Nintendo isn't aware of these people.
>It would be like having the option to select a male Samus or male Lara Croft!
That is not the same fucking thing and you know it. Video games aren't severely lacking in male characters. Stop pretending you're pushing """equality""" and just admit you think girls are icky.
>>341062687
Linkle is a wholly different character in a spinoff Musou game where the entire point is to have an ensemble cast of playable characters.
>>341063423
How isn't it the same thing?
>>341061746
This? They don't look different at all. Both just look like link with and without a hood on.
>>341063825
Bingo. The salt will be fun, to say the least.
>>341063569
Video games have millions upon millions of male protagonists while ignoring females.
>>341063423
But they are severely lacking in attractive male characters. And numale betacucks like you want to ruin one of the only in existence to create yet another boring moeblob to fap to. Go fuck yourself.
>>341064072
That doesn't change the principle of the argument. Both Link and Samus are "blank slate characters", so what does it matter if we give the option to make Samus male?
>>341064072
There are already too many female video game characters. There's never been a shortage, even in the 90s.
>>341063423
Not every game needs to have gender options. This would be changing something up just for the sake of doing it. If anything I'd rather have a game with Zelda as the playable character than a female character. It's not like she is some lazy butch who just sits around.
>>341064539
Why the fuck do people keep saying Samus is a blank avatar? She's been talking since Super Metroid.
>>341063825
Full sized pictures of each image have also been posted. They're both confirmed to be male Link, just in different poses. The people spreading this rumor have serious brain problems.
>>341064826
Link talked briefly in Skyward Sword through dialog options, and had a defined personality in Wind Waker.
>>341064539
females are more easy on the eyes. even females agree
>>341063023
Even if they listen to these people while localizing, this isn't a concern of the dev teams. Nintendo has always had a pretty clear attitude of designing for Japanese audiences and then making localization decisions to match foreign markets.
>>341065138
Which is why games with male leads on the cover sell better.
>>341065138
Females are objectively disgusting. You just have terrible taste.
>>341055685
>Being hunted down by the real Samus part way through the game
>Teaming up to fight the last boss
Could be rad as hell, but it'll never happen.
>>341054931
>Link is canonically one person reincarnated every hundred years or so
Not really. His spirit is reincarnated, but each Link is a different person. And since Hylia is not the one that reincarnates him post-SS, there's really nothing stopping the spirit of the hero from being born in a female body.
That being said, I hope they keep Link male. I don't see any reason to change things up at this point.
>>341065637
you gay, man/straight woman
Will this game remind you what rupees are and where they are in the inventory screen every time you pick them up? Will it have unskipable mandatory dialogue with a partner who tells you exactly what to do twice in a row?
>>341065542
cant fault solid snake. he fiiiiiiine
>>341058554
>The same princess
Zelda isn't reincarnated. Each Zelda simply possesses the bloodline of Hylia.
>>341048937
Playing as a really strong, powerful woman always really turns me- interests me
>Why no male Samus
Why do people keep pretending this is the same thing? Samus is one person, changing her would necessarily require changing an existing character, but Link is different. Introducing a female Link doesn't change any of the existing Links because they're different characters.
Zelda is one of the few series this is possible for, since the lore could allow it and hasn't squashed the possibility yet.
Sounds like it would be about is consequential as changing your name in most Zelda games.
>>341071193
Skyward Sword squashed it by establishing that Link is "one character" reincarnated into the same form every hundred years, with exception of Wind Waker.
Again, why is this justified but the other isn't?
>>341071193
All of the Links are tied together by a common theme and design. Being male is part of that theme. It's essential to every Link. Changing one Link would change the concept of Link, which isn't acceptable because it would ruin an established character for no reason.
>>341071729
Because being reincarnated as the opposite gender has never happened in anything Japanese ever.
>>341072663
That's irrelevant, it breaks the character design convention of the Legend of Zelda.
Also, not an argument.
>>341058554
you are just Wrong dude. nobody's the same except ganondorf.
>>341071936
Just like all Links are blonde haired and left handed, right? They can't just change aspects of the character like that, can they?
>>341072958
the fuck are you talking about? Link has always been a twink. You could make him a tomboy just buy giving him a slight bust.
>>341071729
It didn't, though. Skyward Sword established that they needed a hero with an unbreakable spirit, but said nothing about the hero always having to be the same person.
>>341073127
The only real exception to that was the Skyward Sword Link, who was right handed for the motion controls to work. Besides that, almost all character art of Link fit what you described.
>>341073548
yes, it's the curse demise put on Link and Zelda, creating he endless cycle of rebirth of Link as he was.
>>341073742
Not every Link is blond
>>341073946
How is becoming a legacy hero a curse? Specially since Link usually makes it out okay.
>>341063825
the people who think this was a female link are fucking retarded and should kill themselves and any potential offspring. it's artwork that has already been released. it's not new.
>>341074228
Only exception I can think of its the art of the NES Link.
>>341074335
Ask nintendo, I didn't write that shit.
Why are you guys arguing over something that will be revealed tomorrow? Just wait and see that Link will be a boy like Aonuma stated last year.
>>341074720
It's fun. Don't you like having fun?
>>341074335
How would you like to have no control over your own body, instead being directed by some unknown force constantly?
>>341049786
>Link is the one of the few iconic constants in series that visually reinvents itself with each new entry
This. People go "but he's different" yes but he's essentially theLinkbetween all the games, he's a constant.
>>341054931
>WW babbies still think their precious WW Link is the exception
No, he's just as much of a Link as every other Link in the timeline. SS also confirmed this. Spirit of the Hero transcends timelines, pretty much.
>>341064539
samus is one individual. there is no point to make samus male, because samus is already female and is just one person. however, there are many, multiple links, with different personalities and features. people are just retarded and think all links are the same. with this in mind, a new link could be female just fine without anybody being gender-bent. because the concept of gender bending is fucking retarded and autistic. just make a female or male character separately, with their own agency. don't change one into something else. making a female link would not be taboo at all, but arbitrarily gender bending samus is retarded and a poor decision. if you think these are comparable, kill yourself.
>>341074997
It's called fate, we already deal with that shit.
>>341074415
He has brown hair in Zelda 1 and 2 and pink hair in 3
>>341075235
Except when the King of Hyrule says outright he has no ties to the hero, and just looks like him.
>people are still arguing against female link
Just fuck off already. The only thing Link needs to be Link is the spirit and the green clothes. That's literally all there is to the reincarnation.
Green fucking clothes.
>>341075643
Those don't count
>>341075643
The pink hair in Link to the Past was a sprite limitation, and he has blonde hair in all LttP art.
>>341075269
see
>>341071936
Your argument is stupid and holds no weight.
>>341075197
you're not fucking correct, dude. they're separate people. this is not my opinion, this is literal canonical fact. you're just fucking oblivious. like, we aren't somehow whining about some headcanon... you are fucking being told that each link is not the same person, and somehow you're mistaking your willful denial as fact. kys
>>341074335
>How is becoming a legacy hero a curse?
Not all of them had it well in the long run, pretty sure this one in particular became mentally fucked up from all of it, for example. And that's really only covering the surface.
>>341076113
Why?
>>341074335
The curse was that Demise would keep coming back. Pretty sure the reincarnation of Zelda and Link was more of the universe's response to combat tge curse
>>341075269
Link is also one character, and this would also be arbitrary gender bending. I agree, making Samus male would be stupid, but the same principle applies to Link.
>>341075808
>trusting what the fucking King says
He isn't one of the gods, he doesn't make the rules.
Also, shit has been retconned, same with Ganondorf being his own individual person with individual motives in WW as well. Turns out he's evil because of Demise's curse now, not out of his own desires and determination.
>>341055075
Ya some random kid just went out and killed ganon. Ok.
>>341076238
Being male is NOT part of the legend.
>muh visual theme
What fucking theme? The big three Links only have a passing resemblance.
>>341076281
Except how Skyward Sword retconned it that all Links were the "same person" with a few exceptions.
This is not my opinion, this is fact.
>>341075808
No, he says Link is not a decendant of the hero, which was never a requirement.
He believes Link is the hero reborn. Stop talking out of your ass.
>>341076694
you're literally just fucking wrong, dude. link is not one character. this is not my opinion.
a female link is not a genderbent link. it's just a link that is female, and exists separately from the other links. fucking kill yourself if youre going to keep on spewing this denial-filled bullshit.
>>341077045
Did no one actually play Skyward Sword? This "argument" is blatantly wrong
>>341077045
Not the same person in the slightest.
They were all incarnations of a Hero. And all Zelda's were incarnations of the Goddess.
That's it. You aren't the same as your grandfather, dipshit.
>>341077045
that's not what happened in skyward sword. that literally isn't at all what the story entailed. you are fucking wrong, dude. to try to argue that all links are the same person automatically makes you irredeemably retarded, period.
>>341077183
Link is a male character, and turning him female is by definition gender bending. And if you need to tell someone to "kill themselves" over your own inability to grasp your own hypocrisy, you're beyond reasoning with.
>>341075309
I don't believe in fate. I'm a badass.
>>341075309
>implying
you do know that quantum mechanics aren't deterministic, right?
>>341077045
you can't just repeat my wording and expect that to somehow make you correct. stop making this skyward sword argument, thats not even what happened fucktard
What an original thread, we've never ever discussed this before, I'm sure we'll reach a new conclusion from this deep and spirited debate.
>>341076973
>Being male is NOT part of the legend
It is, but that's not even the point. Link is an identifiable character with consistent traits. If you water down those traits with meaningless choices then you have a less iconic, less likeable character. There's a reason Link has over 16,000 images on pixiv. People like him, and they certainly wouldn't appreciate him being changed into something they like less. If the series needs another female character you can always add one. There's absolutely zero reason to compromise an existing character's persona and identity to add yet another female in a series that's already saturated with them. Female Link adds nothing while taking away a character we already know and love. It's stupid and selfish for you fucks to even suggest it, because we all know you just want to see more disgusting R63 porn.
Fuck off, "others"
>>341077663
again, no, because a female link would be a separate additional link. that doesnt effect any previous ones. because there are more than one fucking link. gender bending is not necessary, because a female link would be a separate person, not a replacement or alternative. samus and mario are single individuals. link and zelda are not. to try to argue against this is automatic retard.
I'm fine with anything if it could lead to more Linkle porn
>>341077470
>>341077570
>>341077604
>>341078643
Alright, look at it this way: Why now? Why, after all of these cycles where Link is a blonde male, would a female Link just so happen to show up? Are you saying it wouldn't be a contrived addition meant to pander to idiots whining that they can't have a woman Link?
>>341078554
that isn't what people are upset about. there's this one faggot that is trying to suggest that this consistent theme is somehow a rule, and that it means all links are the same.
newsflash: this is 2016. if you think all links are the same, You Are Retarded.
>>341079110
Not every Link is blond
>>341079357
Vast majority are, the only exceptions being Link from the NES games.
>>341048596
I DON'T FUCKING CARE, I JUST WANT THE GAME TO BE GOOD FOR SHIT'S SAKE.If you can choose gender, I'll probably play twice for the fuck of it.
>>341048937
Shit taste. Was like that before but after a while you get tired of female characters quick.
>>341079167
You've been posing with that horrible all lowercase grammar this entire thread, making terrible nonsensical points and contributing nothing to the discussion. You sincerely deserve to be ip range banned.
>>341079110
your arguments are misplaced. i don't think there's going to be a female link at all, i am simply calling out the retarded faggot who thinks all links are the same person and somehow thinks thats a reason why their shouldnt be. the fact of the matter is that there totally could be, and all of this MUH MALE LINK argument is stupid.
>>341079669
get over yourself?
>>341048596
Female chiming in here.
I think growing up I would have appreciated being able to play as a female character, I could have a "hero/idol" if you will.
I think it's important to have a plethura of female character types out there, just as there is a huge variety of male characters...what it really comes down to is we all want to have some sort of representation in the media we enjoy.
It does not in anyway take away from my enjoyment of games (I went as one of my all time favorite video game characters for Halloween, Mario) if the character is male, but it would be nice to have more representation, or to be able to have the choice of genders if this is able to be fit into a game.
I would also like to see more minorities, but maybe I'm asking for too much:) lol
>>341078554
>There's a reason Link has over 16,000 images on pixiv.
Yeah, I'm sure a girl Link design would REALLY kill Pixiv interest dead. They hate drawing girls over there.
>>341079794
I'm that faggot, and I'm only taking that standpoint because I think it's a pointless contrivance.
>>341079669
it's not a nonsensical point to say that the links are separate people. it's fuckin canonical fact. your opinions are shitty and your headcanons are wrong, your arguments are fucking baseless and petty, and you honestly need to get off the fucking high horse.
>>341052834
HOW DARE YOU IMPLY THAT SHE CAN'T IDENTIFY AS A MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>341071729
This.
Outside of the game's lore, Link is an established character whose design simply changed over time (this happens often with sequels, pic related.) For fun, Zelda fans came up with the timeline to try to explain the changes by finding connections that didn't exist and Nintendo played along a bit with Hyrule Historia.
At the end of the day, Link is Link. The whole point of the reincarnation is to bring back the original Link to stop whatever new shit is going down. I think even Fi said something like "May we meet again in another life" at the end of SS.
No matter the place, time, or threat, Link appears. Maybe I'm just a huge fag, but that's what makes his reincarnation cool.
>>341080235
if you think every link is the same, kill yourself. your opinions are automatically invalid
>>341048596
I wanna chose between male and female enemies.
Link is a guy though.
If they want a playable female then why don't they either introduce a new character, or just have Zelda be playable?
>>341079110
Ignoring the emotive language: would it be in order to make certain parts of the game's audience enjoy it more, rather than because it's essential to the series' narrative? Of course it would, and I don't think anyone would ever claim otherwise.
>>341080673
What part of "I'm only taking that standpoint because I think it's a pointless contrivance" did you not understand?
You're telling people to kill themselves for having wrong-think over a shitty retcon from a mediocre entry in a children's game series. Get over yourself.
>>341081245
Here's the thing though: the audience won't enjoy it more. The people actively clamoring for this change won't be satisfied with it, and eventually they'll keep demanding more.
>>341080595
skyward sword explained why and how there are more than one link, not that there's somehow one of them... if you think all links are the same person, you are fucking retarded. if you think skyward sword did anything but confirm and explain why there are multiple different links, you are retarded. if you're trying to use any of this as an argument against female link, you are retarded.
Post yfw when ridley and kkrool announced for smash.
Just consider the female Link to be non canon like pic related
Also didn't Nintendo bring up Link's sex as ambiguous for their first trailer?
>>341081448
there was no retcon. there has never been any sort of retcon whatsoever. you have misunderstood skyward sword. don't come at me with this "I was merely PRETENDING to be retarded!" asspull. you're just full retarded.
>>341082369
I forgot pic related
>>341082463
case in point.
>>341048596
It won't happen. Nintendo doesn't care about noisy minorities.
>>341082369
No, they immediately crushed all speculation by saying that Link is definitively male. Some people just can't get a clue, though.
Hopefully the new Zelda will be similar to the BS-X games where you play as a different hero summoned from another time. They had you choose between a boy or a girl.
>>341081192
a female link WOULD be a new character. each link is a separate person. nobody would be genderbent, there would just now be a link that is female.
it pretty much already happened with linkle.
to a perfect science, you're not using your brain if you think a female link couldn't happen.
it's not that it will, but the fact you think it can't shows how fucking retarded you are.
>>341081851
>The people actively clamoring for this change won't be satisfied with it, and eventually they'll keep demanding more.
That's assuming they'll even buy the game in the first place.
>>341082463
I don't know what that dude is referring to but there sure have been some retcons, such as the old Miyamoto timeline
>>341082973
judging by how they treat their fans i'd have to agree.
>>341081192
I don't understand why people claim an aesthetic option would totally change and ruin the game forever, then propose fundamental changes to Link's entire role in the story as a superior alternative.
Zelda comes with too many expectations about her place in the narrative to work as the same kind of protagonist, either changing the game or her own role much more deeply, and surely an original character would just hurt Link's role even more? Instead of "The hero actually could have been a girl all along", it says "to defeat this ancient evil, we either need the legendary hero reincarnated since time immemorial... or this random chick you've never seen before. Either one will do".
>>341081851
Great, but that claim has nothing to do with the point being addressed, which is that of course the reason for the change is external to the story.
>>341083528
The people that want female Link aren't fans.
>>341079652
I've been playing for over 20 years and I still prefer playing females. F U
>>341083240
you're taking what i said out of context, look at what i replied to. I'm referring specifically to the retcon that he stated occurred. which, of course, didn't. the specific retcon he mentioned did not occur.
>>341083558
>I don't understand why people claim an aesthetic option would totally change and ruin the game forever
It wouldn't ruin the game, it would ruin the character. Which in turn diminishes the game for many people because they're actual fans that like Link as he is.
>>341083931
not an argument. link is not one person. there could be a female link and it wouldnt effect anything. if they didnt want to play it they just pick the male option.
>>341083670
this
those people probably haven't even beaten one zelda game, and give zero fucks about the lore and everything that makes the game interesting.
>>341048596
Not likely and no
>>341083931
stop trying to use this argument. it's demonstrably false.
>>341048596
It's not happening.
Can you tumblrinas stop spamming this shit here and go talk about it on neogaf or some shit?
I do not want a female link, but the arguments people are making in this thread for why there CAN'T be one are fucking retarded. you're all a bunch of fucking losers.
>>341084254
It shouldn't even be an option. It still lessens Link as an iconic Nintendo character and ruins something that people really like about these games. You could put in less effort and have a better result by simply making Linkle or Zelda as optional characters or protagonists in a side game.
>>341084602
you don't even understand how poor the correlations you are trying to make, are. you don't even understand how cringey YOU sound.
>>341048596
It make little to no difference unless your a feminist
>>341083670
Except most people that still play Zelda are young girls. Since most young boys these days are basically young girls it's a no brainer.
>>341084505
That argument is absolutely correct and you idiots haven't been able to successfully raise even one counter point in a single one of these threads. There is no good reason to reduce an existing character to an option when you could just make a new character instead.
>>341083670
F U, man. I've been playing since NES even though I finished Ocarina first.
>>341084894
except it doesn't. having a female option doesn't fucking effect what people think about the legacy of the legend of zelda. you're WRONG, dude. i dont know how to put this more simply. i dont really want a female link either, but to think that there cannot and should not be, because of whatever fanboy reason you have, is fucking laughable.
>>341083931
But turning Zelda into a similar type of protagonist would affect her own role far, far more fundamentally, by changing how she fits into the game rather than just surface appearance (and not doing so would fundamentally change the feel of the game, again far more fundamentally), and I just explained how making Link's heroic role equivalent to a non-legendary protagonist would again diminish it at a much deeper level.
I'm ashamed to share love for this series with a bunch of mentally ill hambeasts and numale faggots.
What other series other than Zelda has had a bunch of people trying to gender-bender the main character like this?
>>341085208
Yeah, and who do you think would fight hard to keep Link the way he is? People who are attracted to him. Only fedora wearing numales want female Link because it appeals to their shit taste and disgusting fetishes.
>>341085310
see, the problem is that you seem to think it isn't that. let me repeat myself. not all links are the same person. a female link would just be a female link, separately and in addition to all the rest. nothing is replaced. nothing is altered. you're just playing a link that happens to be female. and nothing else is fucking effected. it IS a new, separate character, you just have to get your brain over the hump of "each link is different."
if you fucking listened to me, you have been told that a separate character is exactly what would and could happen. because link is not one fucking person.
>>341085423
>having a female option doesn't fucking effect what people think about the legacy of the legend of zelda
You're arguing against people who think that having a female option does have a negative impact. The fact that there's even an argument is proof that you're wrong.
Zero. They're gonna make Zelda a playable character. I GUARANTEE IT.
>>341085310
>There is no good reason to reduce an existing character to an option when you could just make a new character instead.
So it's better for Link to be reduced to only be as important as a random new girl with no previous connection to the legend of the series, rather than for him to have two appearances?
>>341080214
Fellow femanon here.
Leave my husbando alone and just ask for Nintendo to make a game starring Zelda instead.
>>341085509
to think people are trying to genderbend link is to fundamentally misunderstand what link is: Not One Person.
a new female link would be additional and separate from the rest, and nothing would fucking change. nobody would be effected. you could still choose male link, too. nobody is gender bent just because another option is made. link isnt suddenly always female forever. you're just a fucking whiny and probably sexist piece of shit.
i must reiterate i dont even want a female link, but to act like all this bullshit you guys are spewing somehow means there CAN'T be, is really fucking stupid. get over yourselves.
I'd play a game starring Zelda.
I wouldn't play a game starring female Link just because of how fucking retarded and forced it would seem. Just tumblrina pandering.
>>341048596
This is but wild speculation, but what if the hypothetical "female link" thing (following the new images of link, with what appears to be two different models, one being more feminine-looking than the other) is not a simple comestic option, but rather a character switch mechanic that allows you to play as Zelda/Sheik? They would have different sets of special abilities, but with common Sheikah artifacts (so as to keep the gameplay coherent and allow for interactions between the actions of both characters).
It wouldn't be THAT crazy, considering how the Young/Adult link switch worked in OoT, but it could be expanded in order to be integrated into pratically every dungeon/mini-dungeon etc...
It could be a nice in-between Young/Adult switch mechanic from OoT (which changed the world a lot and the character to some minor extent) and the mask mechanic from Majora's Mask (which changed the character a lot, but kept the world the same).
Hence the title would be based on this idea, with something like "Twin Eyes", or "Eyes of Sheikah".
>>341086816
>you could still choose male link, too. nobody is gender bent just because another option is made.
If there is a character whose gender is left to the player's choice, then that character is genderbent.
>>341086084
my argument isn't wrong because it isn't an argument. it's a statement of information. link is not one person. to think there HAS to be a female link is to be an annoying tumblr feminist, but to think there CAN'T be is to be a fucking cringey fucktard. being so arbitrarily butthurt over something doesn't make it inherently a problem. you're the problem.
>>341048596
How likely do you think it is that Zelda Wii U/NX will give players the option to choose from ablue or green tunic?
>>341086816
Doesn't the lore say that there will always be one boy and one girl born to oppose Ganon?
If there's a female Link, there must be a male Zelda.. and nobody wants that.
You *could* do some male/female twin shit, but it still messes with the lore if female Link is the one defeating Ganon.. unless it's to save Prince Zeldo.. but that shit is retarded of course.
The people petitioning for this dont even care about the lore. They just want female Link because muh gurll power or some dumb bullshit like that.
I hope they don't, because that would be fucking retarded.
inb4 "muh mysoginy"I'm a lesbian, faggots.
REJOICE EVERYONE!!
TOMORROW THIS FEMALE LINK MEME WILL DIE!
>>341048596
>male or female Link
there's a difference?
>>341087305
no, it isn't. it means you get to pick one or the other. to gender bend is to take an existing character and IRREVERSABLY MAKE THEM THE OTHER GENDER.
since link is Not One Person, making a new female link does not change the gender of anybody. they'd have been female the whole time. nobody is being changed. nobody is being altered.
>>341048596
Link is just so fucking cute.
I immediatly popped a boner when I saw this thread and began to fap on one of my favourite noncon Link yaoi's.
I really want to sleep with him, he is just so amazing.
I hate Nintendo.
>248 posts from 80 posters
>that one all-lowercase poster samefagging and responding to every post in the thread multiple times, repeating his stupid and wrong opinion so he'll look like the majority
Truly disgusting. Possibly the worst one of these threads there's ever been, and that's saying something.
>>341087774
I'm not petitioning for female link. at all. i do not even want female link or care for the concept. i am simply arguing against the broken logic and baseless retorts people are making against it being even a possibility. could there be a female link? fucking absolutely. do i want one? not really. are these dudes still retarded for making this simpleton mistakes and getting the lore so incorrect? absolutely.
>>341049085
What the fuck no? Link is a dude you short sighted cunt.
>>341088094
It determines how masculine or feminine his/her penis is.
>>341050438
>Hyrule Warriors
>>341088065
I really hope this shit will finally be over. You never know though, these people have already shown that they're too delusional to keep up with reality. Nintendo already officially stated that Link is male. In a sane world these rumors would have already stopped a long time ago.
>>341088494
it's not my opinion that link isn't one person. am i seriously being referred to as the lower case guy? are you that petty? are you 12?
i don't know how to spell this out any clearer for you bumbling fucktards. LINK IS MORE THAN ONE INDIVIDUAL. this is not my opinion. this is not my personal view. this is fact. this is canon. there is no alternative argument to be made.
>>341088065
I really cant wait. I want this stupid meme to die.
But there's a possibility where Nintendo doesnt mention the gender in the demo either and keeps it vague, and mentally ill SJWs will still say it's a girl.
>>341088494
kill yourself you fucking faggot.
>>341089189
>>341089397
>isn't even trying to hide it anymore
jej
>>341085208
>Except most people that still play Zelda are young girls.
Citation needed.
>>341085208
what the fuck anon girls dont play videogames
No. Fuck this femLink bullshit.
But you know what would be a really interesting take?
Since it looks like this game is going to have such a pivotal focus on magi-tech and the robots created from it, how about we play as this Link and everything's fine and well until the mid-game plot twist is revealed and it turns out that Link is some kind of magi-tech android or magi-synth? No?
Then how about a spinoff game where we're playing as some cursed monster, skull kid, Stalfos, imp, Goron, Zora or whatever and then midway through that game, said character is also revealed to be Link whose under an alias and trying to find a way to rid his curse? Would that be cool? Or even better, we get a Valley of the Flood kinda deal and the twist for that ine is that you weren't playing as a Link at all, just some crazy kid who believed he was. And the game has a bad ending as the result of him not being the real hero?
If enough people really don't give a fuck about Link to the point where he's still regarded as some ducking avatar (who can be customized at that,) then why not just go all out?
Give us a non-human character, or one that isn't remotely related to Link at all in terms of looks, sex, behavior or purpose? how about Zelda or Ganon then?
Can't wait for the fem Link fags to get BTFO tomorrow.
>>341090267
Dude, what if Link fought Ganon andwon?
>>341080595
>For fun, Zelda fans came up with the timeline to try to explain the changes by finding connections that didn't exist
You retards need to stop spouting this shit. The connections have existed since day one.
I'd like to play as Linkle
>>341090551
Shit dude, I dunno. What if we have to collect three things to wield the master sword in this one too? sounds fucking crazy, right?
>>341060749
>if you acknowledge the story/lore of a game, then you automatically like it
>>341090267
How about midway, we find out that Link's cock is also just an android and it rebels partway through to reveal that Link actually had a vagina the whole time.
>>341080595
In Twilight Princess there are two Links in the same game.
>>341063825
>>341048596
link will always be a delicious femboi
nintendo better not ruin it by turning him into a roaste REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>341048596
I want to fuck that elf
>>341092681
Sure, if that's how little Link actually matters to the game anymore. but if they want gendersm options, they better go all-out. Different dialogue don't NPCs, husband is instead of waifus, male Zelda and the like. Make it worthwhile instead of a shitty skin to appease SJWs and nu-males.
>>341093527
Fuck that. If it's happening make it a minor low-impact feature, not some Adventure Time bullshit with massive emphasis.
>Male link
>Female Link
doesn't matter, kids on the internet will chimp out about not being able to play as trans link either way
Chances are good. I don't see why he can't be reincarnated into a girl.
>>341093105
They won't, don't worry. Link is too perfect and iconic to be ruined by a vocal minority of unhinged numales and 'others'.
>>341093825
I want attack helicopter link mind you
>>341093825
Nah, everyone loves Zelda too much. Girls love Tetra, Midna, Sheik and SS Impa too much to make a fuss.
>>341094085
Does it matter? Toon Link wasn't a reincarnation, neither was Linkle.
>>341093823
Then why bother if you aren't going to go all out with it?
You don't want the poor little gamer gurls out there getting upset that they'll have to rescue some princess instead of a handsome and noble prince, do you?
>>341094330
Yes he was a reincarnation. Just not a descendant.
It would be cool to play as a girl link in the main series. Linkle is her own character in a shit spinoff.
Post yfw the final name of the game just ends up being ゼルダの伝説.
>>341094526
Because all it is is a minor feature. It's a change to a minority of players' link to the game world, not a deep change to the game itself.
>it's a "adult Link" entry
I just want more Young Link that isnt the toon one. Is that so much to ask?
>>341094961
Linkle is the hero Hyrule deserves in the best spinoff. Fag.
>>341094330
Retconned, all Links are reincarnations now.
>>341095194
The past 5 games have been only or partly shota, I'm fed up.
>>341095241Good
>>341094961
>It would be cool to play as a girl link in the main series.
You dont know shit about the lore, I see.
If you want girl Link, you need boy Zelda to go along with it... it's how it goes. One boy and one girl to oppose Ganon in every reincarnation.
>>341094961
>Yes he was a reincarnation. Just not a descendant.
None of the Links are descendants. WW Link had to earn the right to Courage rather than having it by virtue of his heroic spirit.
>>341095430
>The past 5 games have been only or partly shota
But it's been the shit toon one.. unless you count ALBW's Link as shota.. I personally don't.
The last non-toon shota Link has been Majora's Mask.
>>341095190
If it is that minor, the.mn it shouldn't exist in the first place. And the SJWs and gamur gurls will be upset by this; they'll just berate Nintendo for more and more.
honestly it's starting to sound like you're another nu-male who just wants more Linkle porn to please your dick, anon.
>>341095551
Of all the things that might impact this, lines like this are perhaps the one Nintendo cares literally nothing about.
>>341095832
If it's not adult link it counts in my book. And aside from SS it's been a while.
>>341096015
Sounds like you're another /pol/ cultists who doesn't give two fucks about games and is just trying to brainwash people.
>>341096015
>If it is that minor, the.mn it shouldn't exist in the first place
Why? Games can't have minor features that make some people enjoy it slightly more but clearly don't need heavy emphasis throughout the entire experience?
>>341096253
Nah I'm just a fan who doesn't want to see another gaming icon get trashed for some freedom-fighter generational fad. I remember the Mravel/capeshit gender-swap craze. And nearly all of them bombed for good reasons.
whats even the point of girl link
>>341096761
Nintendo is immune to all that shit. Back in the 80's they had Peach as the best playable character and Samus, they have infinite SJW cred.
Generally the only people who get into trouble are AAA devs who, I would argue, deserve every bit of shit they get.
>>341096794
muh strong independent womyn protagonist
>>341096794
Some would say equality of representation. I'd say variety anddress up.
>>341096405
Why include it if it's so minor?
Why do you want t so badly when it firmly goes against 30 years of tradition, recgonition and game lore?
Be serious with me here - why do you REALLY want it, anon?
>>341096794
Appealing to the tumblr/nu male audience.
>>341096761
>I remember the Mravel/capeshit gender-swap craze. And nearly all of them bombed for good reasons.
Yeah, whatever happened with that?
I remember reading an article abut it, I shook my head and moved on.
>>341096794
Adding an option to a game. Something Nintenchildren are seriously against.
>>341096794
STRONK INDEPENDENT WOMYN WHO DONT NEED NO MAN.
Literally all this is about.
>>341097273
I don't think it's that anyone on /v/ really wants itexcept for the purposes of porn of course, it's just that a lot of us don't give enough of a shit one way or another as long as the game is good.
>>341097273
>Why include it if it's so minor?
The same reason you include most features: because you think it will make some players have more fun. I'm pretty sure I just said that already.
>Why do you want t so badly
I don't think I ever said I did. Isn't this about whether, if it does happen, it should be a minor or major feature?
What if you can choose to be black Link. It would fit with the lore and would reach wider audience. Plus it would fit with this E3 multiculti theme.
>>341098041
>implying 90% of /v/ wouldn't play as brown shota Link
>>341096761
>I remember the Mravel/capeshit gender-swap craze. And nearly all of them bombed for good reasons.
>SJWs bitch that they want female versions of established male characters
>Marvel caves in and makes it
>they don't buy the comics
>it bombs and Marvel loses money
Serves them right for listening to these idiots. I bet half of the people petitioning for female Link don't even play the games. It's just some statement thing.
>>341098041
Sure. I presume it'd tie in with the Gerudo and Ganondorf's origins, could be cool.
>>341098041
Please, just take my rupees and leaveTetra was ambiguously brown and a great character
>Not wanting a cute elf waifu
What's wrong with you feggits?
I'd rather have male/female options than have them keep feminizing Link. He's been a prettyboy anime guy for a long time now, but they're pushing that angle a lot more with the new design.
I'm guessing their intention is that if they make him androgynous then both men and women will be able to project onto him. But that doesn't account for people who actually identify with a gender instead of being in some vague gray area. I don't think a lot of men will want to play as this Link.
>>341098206
>brown shota Link
..you got me interested, anon. Now I want this.
>>341098041
I would be down for a non-human Link. Playing as a Goron and Zora was fun in MM. I would like to see them expand upon that.
>>341097226
Dress up is only fun with boys though. Girls are ugly and look like shit in everything.
>>341050725
This is the correct response
The issue being that prince Zelda is pretty redundant since Zelda already spends most games actually kicking ass and doing shit.
>>341098502
>wanting to turn a cute elf boy into some generic ugly cunt
Kill yourself, my dude.
So was Fierce Deity evil?
>>341054931
>Link is canonically one person reincarnated every hundred years or so with exception of the Wind Waker Link.
Actually, the exception is TP Link, who is direct descendant of OoT/MM Link.
>>341099549
If you say so anon.
>>341099730
>Prince Zelda
Irrelevant to Link
>Zelda already spends most games actually kicking ass and doing shit.
By most, you mean a small handful?
>>341100085
The mask essentially came from Majora.
It was given to you from Majora as a tradeoff, so technically yes.
Wouldn't mind, but it's nothing which decides if I want to play a Zelda game or not.
I can already see certain people trying to make a big deal out of it, though, and that's something I don't like.
>>341100815
>Sheik in OOT
>Tetra in WW, fights Ganon at the end
>Fights Zant and later Ganon in TP
>First two thirds of SS is basically you following Zelda around as she actually accomplishes things
>Suit in Spirit Tracks
>>341048596
Very, like 9/10
Link is a blank canvas, a nondescript 'Hero' as it is your adventure, so they wil introduce gender and give you Linkle. People will bitch and moan on here but it makes absolutely no difference and the end of the day and is probably a good thing.
The only change it will make is it will take away some of the comedic elements of characters like the Inn Keeper in TP and a few others outrageously flirting with Link and him being taken aback.
>>341101489
>SS Zelda
>accomplishing things
LOL
O
L
My tinkle is fine with more Linkle.
>>341101580
>people are so dense that they still believe Lunk is a blare slate in 2016
Would him having dialgoue - if only a little - finally spell it out for how wrong you are?
>>341101580
>Link is a blank canvas, a nondescript 'He
Oh, it's this meme again.
>>341101580
>very likely
It's already confirmed that it isn't happening. Why does this delusion run so deep in some people?
>/vtards actually soapboxing about integrity of a children's toy character
You can't make this shit up.
>>341049253
Low level bait faggot
Don't care so long as the game is good.
Link is mute anyway so it wouldn't make a difference gameplay and storywise.
>>341048596
Im not gonna argue for or against
but that's a really faggy pose he's in
>>341102407
Different anon but his name is literally Link to show the link between player and game world through an avatar. It's a role playing game after all, Link doesn't talk or make his own decisions and you get to name him after yourself.
>tfw threads like this will double by tommorrow, massive BTFO will happen
cant wait
>>341105043
>Zelda
>RPG
lmao, only time when Zelda was an RPG it was Zelda 2
>>341100273
does this really have to be said?
every link is a different person besides the direct sequels.. this is not arguable
>>341101489
>Sheik in OOT
Gives you boring lectures and teaches you songs
>Tetra in WW, fights Ganon at the end
She becomes an unnecessary burden, not the same thing
>Fights Zant and later Ganon in TP
No she fucking doesn't, in the fight against Ganon, all she does is become a burden again
>First two thirds of SS is basically you following Zelda around as she actually accomplishes things
You off your meds again?
>Suit in Spirit Tracks
I'll give you that one
>>341106770
Hyrule Historia confirms this anon, try again
>>341101489
Spirit Tracks Zelda is best, since she gets shit done even when she's not a suit of armor.
>>341106890
>Gives you boring lectures and teaches you songs
Becomes a ninja and survives the apocalypse for 7 years.
>She becomes an unnecessary burden, not the same thing
Kills Ganon.
>No she fucking doesn't, in the fight against Ganon, all she does is become a burden again
Or shoot him with arrows while on horseback like a true Keshik.
>>341107248
>Becomes a ninja and survives the apocalypse for 7 years.
Just like almost everyone else, big whoop
>Kills Ganon.
Link does, you retard
>Or shoot him with arrows while on horseback like a true Keshik.
Which she hilariously sucks at. The chase would have been over in seconds if Link could use his bow himself
>>341108295
But Link never kills Ganon on his own, he's shot with light in OOT, arrows in WW and TP.
>Just like almost everyone else, big whoop
She literally held a piece of the triforce so Ganondorf was specifically looking for her.
>Which she hilariously sucks at. The chase would have been over in seconds if Link could use his bow himself
Link isn't as proficient with Light.
>>341107181
why are you saying try again to me? hyrule historia backs up my point. they're not the same fucking person, dude. just because the spirit of the hero reincarnates doesn't mean he's the same fucking person. we've been given many different links, with different appearances and different personalities. to try to argue that they are the same person is to completely ignore the thousands of years set between each game. to think they're all the same person is to be fucking retarded. they've all got their own agency. they're separate people. why is this controversial. hyrule historia back this up, not the other way around. you just don't seem to understand how to fucking piece together any of this information. you're responding to me as if im trying to say that he does not incarnate, but like, no, that isn't what is being argued. you've gone full retard if your response to "link is separate individuals" isn't "i agree"
because the thing being shared with you is not an opinion, because the thing being shared with you is not objective, to not agree is identical to not understanding. to not agree is indistinguishable from choosing to be wrong.
Post yfw Link becomes a girl but is the most over-sexualized woman with super skimpy clothes.
>>341109158
>they're not the same fucking person, dude.
I think you replied to the wrong guy, that wasn't what I was arguing.
>>341108737
>But Link never kills Ganon on his own, he's shot with light in OOT, arrows in WW and TP.
What does that have to do with Zelda here?
>She literally held a piece of the triforce so Ganondorf was specifically looking for her.
And just what happens when she drops the disguise for one second?
>Link isn't as proficient with Light.
He handles a bow much better than Zelda ever could, I don't see how having light arrows would make things harder for him.
I will say this:
If Nintendo decides to add a female link or even worse..add a character editor. I'm never going to buy a Zelda game again. Even if they go back to normal in future games. They will have ruined a whole series for me. Call me a whiny loser if you want, but I know at least 50% of the Zelda userbase is with me on this. Even my gf and she is really crazy about Zelda. Just like me.
If Nintedo panders to tumblrinas who don't buy games, they will lose fans who do and they series is going to die as a whole.
>>341115806
As another big fan, the series is already on the verge of dying. This game is ether going to make or break the franchise with anything it does.
But I agree that femLink would be a huge blunder.
>>341050605
Almost every Zelda game ever made has had a "gimmick" all the way back to LttP, you drooling idiot.
>>341115806
I'm with you. The only people who want this are nu-males and a handful of trannies with untreated mental issues. If Nintendo is taking cues from people like that then there's nothing left to be hopeful for. Luckily there's pretty much zero chance of this happening since they've already confirmed multiple times that Link is male. I just hope people put these stupid rumors to bed soon.
Playing as a female is only worth it if there are skimpy outfits and there won't be for LoZ because it's fucking Nintendo.
link has always been a guy so i think it would be stupid to make him a girl, in todays world i could see it going either way, but nintendo is japanese and they dont give a fuck about our politics over here
the hard part would be coming up with two distinct journeys, one for each player
pokemon didn't have that problem. they were just sprites. you give me a female zelda and all of a sudden gender plays a role because link ALWAYS has females hitting on him. how would you justify big burly men hitting on a 16 year old girl with a sword?
>>341116870
Don't underestimate those crazy tumblr trannies. After tomorow, there will be a big uproar. They will cry and demand a female link. They will even start a petition, you just know they will. Maybe Nintendo won't listen this time, but maybe they will with the next game.
There is also the possibility that Nintendo lied to keep it a surprise. Wouldn't be the first time where Nintendo had to lie in order to make a big announcement later.
>>341112252
i replied to who replied to me. maybe YOU replied to the wrong person.
>>341117432
Exactly this. It would dumb the character interactions and story down to MMO style levels.
Which would be horrific, even for Zelda standards. People who demand shit like this don't know how hard it is to make good NPC interactions just for one character.
It's not like, they wont stop asking for more after you give them a female Link.
They will never stop. Embrace Black-Gender Fluid-paraplegic-Trans-Fat-Link with self-diagnosed Mental Issues. He/she/it doesn't need to go on stupid adventures. You can just chill and press A to eat cake.
>>341115806
get over yourself faggot
>>341048596
Hopefully. It's about damn time we had a female Link
i want to be the girl link and do this >_<
>>341115806
>>341119843
yall have a really skewed ass view of how "tumblrinas" seem to work. you don't really understand what the fuck you're saying, and it makes you look like the fucking cringey one.
>everyone's face when they don't change zeldas gender and female link and zelda have a lesbian affair
>>341076070
He's not even wearing green in this one though
I never get why people make such a big deal about link boning anyone. the series has never been about romance. the only truly romantic scene in the entire series is when link stays on the overworld to protect zelda and the triforce in skyward sword. aside from that, every incarnation of link and zelda has been based around friendship (reminder: japan loves friendship)
that said, i can see a female link being a genuine effort. she'd grow up and become really good friends with a princess zelda, though initially they would have been nemeses (read: tsundere). ultimately the game would end like frozen where it's about sisterhood and shit, heck they may even make link and zelda sisters separated at birth
tl;dr making link a girl has endless possibilities for something new. it's not a bad thing, and it wouldn't need to even hint at any SJW bullshit
>>341124291
interesting you'd bring that up
>ITT people who have never even heard of If You Give a Mouse a Cookie.
It sums up why you shouldn't give SJW anything.
>>341120676
>>341120090
>>341120408
>>341120430
They are already here. If these retards are vocal, Traditional Zelda fans should be more vocal about this issue so that Nintendo won't get the wrong impression that this is something fans want. We don't want female Link.
>>341071193
Because it's a fair point. Why not reboot the series and make Samus male this time? No, because that would cause outrage, but let's change the gender of a character that has ALWAYS been male though.
>>341124649
>>341124904
Not quite the same. Probably coincodence
>>341126129
Yes, we do
>>341126129
>Traditional Zelda fans should be more vocal about this issue
I try my best, but it's so damn tiring retreading the same ground and rebuking the same fallacious arguments time and time again. It's especially bad considering the cries for female Link have already been stonewalled by Nintendo. The official word is that Link is male, and that's that. Yet these savages keep complaining and hyping up false rumors to drum up support for their petty attempt to ruin the series. When will this shit finally end? What more can Nintendo say to shut these people up and close the issue for good?
>>341127068
You're not a fan. Fuck off, nu-male.
>>341048596
Absolutely fucking zero. It's not happening.
>>341126616
that wasn't my point. i meant that Wind Waker link starts blue and adapts the green tunic after some exposition. so just cause Wii U link has on blue doesn't mean he won't eventually adapt the green tunic
>>341127712
Been playing Zelda games since 91, mate. We're overdue for a female protagonist
>mfw i realize that if this zelda is soon done, the following one is already being planned.
>mfw Zelda U will be the last non-sjw installment
>>341128339
>overdue
>implying every series needs a female protagonist
>implying every character in fiction needs to turn into a female at some point
Nice try, but no. You're absolutely not a fan of these games. I doubt you even play video games or enjoy any fiction that isn't Steven Universe.
>>341127712
I grew up with LoZ on NES and I want girl Link. It's just a matter of cuteness, and dumb gaijins like you fighting to keep it out of games as usual. You're the reason why western games are nothing but ugly characters and grimdark bullshit.
>>341128882
>Steven Universe.
>mfw this show exists
>>341129132
all i'm saying is it should be an option. don't force us to play with a female link. and t b h, if they give us the option, the same guys who are against female link will still play with her after beating the male quest
>>341129132
Link is already cuter than any female could ever be. There are already enough games that pander to shit taste otaku, so feel free to fuck off and play those instead of trying to ruin a series that people are happy with.
>>341129132
>It's just a matter of cuteness
>implying females aren't all pig disgusting
Kill yourself, betacuck.
>>341129737
Lots of people have already shown why even having it as an option isn't acceptable. Link is male, and that's that. There's no reason to turn a pre-established character into a nebulous and undefined set of options.
>>341128882
I guarantee I've been playing video games since before you were born. Maybe you'll join modern society one day and see why we need a female Zelda protagonist
>>341127467
Nintendo already gave them Linkle.
They won't stop. They want female Link. And most of them don't want it to be a option either. That's the scary thing. They are mindless sheep who just repeat whatever the current SJW narrative is. They don't realize that they are essentially just robots with no real taste in video games or opinions.
Most of them didn't even finish a Zelda game. (maybe wind waker). The others were probably too hard for them. Those are also the ones who demand less puzzles in Zelda games.
Whats next? Should it be more like Ass Creed? What the hell is with this generation? I never would have imagined that the low iq majority of the worlds population would be "all-in-your-face" on the internet. But that was dumb of me to think otherwise.
They already ruined Ghost Busters. My fucking god, they are so dumb, they don't even realize that it's shit. They think everybody who hates it is a sexist pig. This is what will happen to Zelda if Nintendo listens to these self centered pricks.
There are some better Zelda games, there are some that are not as great as the others. But all Zelda games are still good games. You want a Sonic 2006esque Zelda?
>>341131059
Not him but the way you are acting like you are superior to him just confirms that you are a pretentious ass with nothing to back it up.
Here is an idea. Make seperate games.
One where Link is a guy, and one where Link is a girl.
Then watch how the Girl version sells 0 units because tumblrinas don't buy games, they just like to declare things as "problematic" while they adjust their "totally special snowflake angled feminist glasses".
>>341048596
>Choose either Male or Female, but Male Link is still the canon protagonist, like Pokemon
>Play as Zelda or another established female character instead of/in addition to Link, Zelda/Impa tag-team would be cool
>Play as a new female character who is not the Hero because he doesn't show up or failed or whatever
any of these would be fine, but if they just make Link a girl that would contradict established lore and I'd be annoyed. I think the latter two could make for an interesting story, interesting gameplay and would provide a pandering, empowered female character without straying too far from the traditional formula.
>>341131059
>we need a female Zelda protagonist
No, we don't. But even if for some inane reason we did, then the only sensible thing would be to make a Zelda game starring one of the series' many already female characters. Nobody wants to see Link's image ruined, especially not female fans of the series. He's pretty much the only attractive male video game character that gets any worthwhile attention.
>>341132680
Still ruins Link as a character. They should do the same thing, but with Zelda. It will probably sell about as many copies as The Wand of Gamelon.
>>341133030
You must have a pretty low opinion of Link if he's that easily ruined for you.
>>341131538
That anon is likely underage b& and doesn't understand why having a white male protagonist for so long is an issue. Mario has had several Peach games. Zelda needs to catch up
>>341133231
I ruined your mum last night. hiyooooo
Is this game going forward in time or is it going backwards again?
SS-MC-OOT-MM-WW-TP-Lttp-Zelda->Zelda 2
>>341133231
Reducing a character to a set of parameters ruins them. This has already been thoroughly explained multiple times in the thread. Link is Link because his design and character have been consistent in each game.
>>341133231
>He's
See, he's a he, not a she.
Make a new female character, why do we need to genderswap Link? That's both insulting to fans of the character and to fans who want a strong female character. It's just lazy.
>Oh, you want to pray as female character?
>Okay, here Rinku with tits!
>What, you not happy?
>>341133409
Zelda can have her own games. But TLOZ Series is about a boy.
are you guys still whining about the culture wars you continue to lose or have you accepted the fact that linkle is canon?
>>341133538
>Reducing a character to a set of parameters ruins them.
So he's already ruined because you've parameterized his sex as being essential?
>>341133231
No, people who want Link to stay the same have a high opinion of him. It's the people who think you can just change a character for no reason that have no respect for Link as a character. If you like a character then you don't want to see them changed, and if you don't like a character then a simple genderswap shouldn't be enough to save them. R63 is always shit, no exceptions.
>>341048596
I'd only accept a female Link if every other character of the game swapped genders as well, it would be really shoehorned to have a girl Llink, but everyone else remained the same.
>>341133817
>parameterized
Holy shit you're stupid, anon.
>>341133738
Because a new female character unrelated to previous titles yet somehow able to seamlessly take over his role in the legend and games undermines his character and place in the series at a fundamental level, far more so than any aesthetic option ever could.
Best example against a custom character creation tool is this game.
Didn't feel like the previous Xenoblade game. Maybe Nintendo was testing waters with this one and realized that this is a terrible idea?
And this also shows that a gender option in a game like this is retarded. It works for Pokemon because you always have new characters.
In Zelda, you always have "LINK". You see the problem? In pokemon, you don't get to play "Red" in every game. If it were the case, fans would get mad too.
>>341134187
How so? You've taken the compound of essential "Link-ness", and determined that you can identify non-Link-ness with a simple binary parameter.
>>341134834
Okay.
>>341133817
Full retard.
>>341133960
This is what makes me mad. People who want a female Link don't really care all that much about Zelda in general.
Imagine how mad MGS-Fans would get if people (who are not so invested in the series) demanded a female Snake. Oh shit, please don't
>>341134948
Cut yourself. I'm serious.
All SJWs. Go back to neogaf where nobody takes you seriously.
>>341135998
Glad to see both points of view engaged in discussion.
>people getting buttblasted over of simply having the option to change or choose Link's gender
What's the problem here? If you don't want female Link, then go for male form. Jeez.
>>341136603
Because Link is more than just an option in a menu. He's a character that people like and feel strongly about. Try reading the thread before sticking your head in to interject with your uninformed and poorly thought out opinion.
>>341136918
I want my big brother to become big sister, though.
>>341137245
Then you never cared about big brother to begin with and your opinion is discredited.
>>341052582
but samas is trans-gendered.
>>341136918
>He's a character that people like and feel strongly about.
But if you think Link is more than just an avatar character, then why do every Zelda game gives us the option to name him by whoever we want?
If the games do that, then there's no problem to put more options to customize.
>>341116481
Yeah they did, except it was never the main way of controlling your char, or attacking which takes away from the players experience you fuck fortressing aids ridden niggerfaggot.
>>341137693
So that you can name your save file. His canon name is still always Link. Can you not see how disingenuous your bullshit slippery slope argument is?
>>341137437
You never cared about big brother to begin with.
I'd only care if it was like Digimon Cyber Story where if you choose a female protag all the ladies still want your nonexistant dick.
>>341138161
>no u
You lost, anon.
>>341138134
But the customized name also goes for Link name.
>>341138350
No you, you lost.
>>341137959
>except it was never the main way of controlling your char, or attacking
Never played LTTP or Oracle games?
>>341058007
Zelda is a girl. Better question why does Link have to be female. Why not just ask for a game with a playable Zelda? That seems far more realistic and less of an overreach than trying to force a gender swap of one of gamings most iconic characters for "reasons".
>>341138601
Yea wheres the control gimmick son? Educate me, as I've played them extensively.
>>341135620
Snake is protected by faggots. Link is protected by girls. There's no need to be scared anon. Autism will guard our childhood heroes from the degenerates.
>>341137693
Can't you name the entire playable cast in Final Fantasy VII?
Where the hell is my female Cloud, Square?
>>341138786
Don't sell the homo Link defense force short.
>>341134234
Nope, slapping tits on Link is so much more inappropriate and insulting to everyone involved. People who want a good, fleshed-out female character lose, people that like Link and care about established lore lose. It's lazy.
Have Link not show up for whatever reason, Ganon fucks something up and Link can't come, gets trapped somewhere, whatever, so some new character gets fed up and goes to rescue Link or just kill Ganon. allows for a different narrative structure and woul change things up without messing with the core formula.
It hits all the right notes, pandering to tumblrtards who want an empowering female character, it doesn't ruin Link as a character and it doesn't fuck with any established lore.
>>341131170
People demand less puzzles in Zelda because Zelda was never about puzzles.
>>341139089
>Link
>fleshed out
Link is one of the most one dimensional characters ever created
>>341048839
The people who think it's definite are delusional.
It'd be great and there's a chance they'll do it, but I'm not getting my hopes up.
>>341139492
Everyone who says this outs themselves as somebody who doesn't belong in the discussion. If you don't even care about Link then what makes you think you have the right to ruin him for the people who do?
>>341139492
I didn't say he wasn't, I said tumblrtards want one. You could do something different with a new character and maybe actually add some personality. I just don't want female Link, it's lazy and isn't canon. Have us play as Zelda or a new character.
>>341139675
Care about which Link though? There's like twenty of them.
>>341139675
You're on the wrong side of history. We will get a female Link, and your bitching will accomplish nothing
>>341139927
Any of them.
>>341140067
I don't think any of them would change. They'd probably make a new Link.
>>341140065
We already have one, her name is Linkle and no one likes her.
>>341140065
>We will get a female Link
You're actually insane. Good job proving everybody arguing against female Link correct.
>>341140176
Link is male, female Link would fuck with established lore they've had for 20 years. Just make a new character, do literally anything but put tits on Link.
You really want to know how scary female Link is?All it would take for it to happen is Aonuma's son saying "I like games where you play as cute girls".
>>341140712
Jesus fuck, you're right.
Goddamnit I wouldn't even put it past him. Isn't his son a teenager now?
>>341140712
Isn't Aonuma's wife still around? She seems like a woman of good taste. I'm sure she wouldn't let a travesty like that happen.
>>341048596
I hope I get cute dresses too
You play as both at the same time, switching between the two for puzzles. They're brother and sister. Dungeons are split up so that each has to be used to travel through it. Different weapons for each. When together on the field the one you aren't controlling is AI
>>341048839
Its more hopeful thinking since I don't want to play as a fucboi
>>341141628
Way too much work for Nintendo.
>>341141532
Nintendo knows that cute dresses only look good on cute boys.
>tfw she didn't get to watch the Zelda U reveal, let alone play it
>>341141951
>Link has been gay before a woman
WHO
FUCKING
CARES
jesus christ the SJWs did win, gamergate 2 when? Get this fucking gender politics garbage out of my fucking video games
>>341142041
>tfw Bill Trinen has her as his pic on Twitter
>>341142110
Link has never had any interest in women. That's nothing new.
>>341057285
So many fucking buzzwords.
that is the worst drawing ever.
>>341139089
>it doesn't ruin Link as a character
It completely turns his role in a core title on its head and says that far from being the one hero, his prominence is pretty much just incidental. It seems like you're more interested in the surface appearance than what the character actually means in the series.
>>341142878
EDIT:I WAS TALKING ABOUT OP LOL
>>341048596
link is a self-insert and people the only people who claim otherwise are nostalgiababbies. there's no reason to not have a gender select
>>341140349
>female Link would fuck with established lore
SS lore states Link reincarnates into different bodies.
Never does the lore state that Link has to be male.
Did you think before you post you fucking retard
>>341048596
I really don't care either way because Link is a silent protagonist for a reason. Though story isn't always important in Zelda, it can suffer if gender is an option.
See also: Xenoblade X compared to Xenoblade Chronicles
>>341073213
>stretching this far to try to justify a female Link as canon
We need a female link, don't see why not and its long overdue I think.
>>341143363
You've posted this several times already. Stop trying to make your mental illness look like the majority's opinion.
>>341143731
>being a girl is a mental illness
i want /pol/ to leave
>>341142903
>what the character actually means in the series
The thing you control to play the game. Link has never been anything more than this.
>>341143893
>being a girl
see
>>341078614
Girls don't want female Link. They like him as he is. He's the only male video game character we have that isn't ugly. You're a false flagging betacuck nu-male horndog that can't handle the idea of playing a game as anything that can't be your waifu. Fuck off with your shit taste and leave this series to its actual fans.
>>341057285
What is that picture even saying?
>>341144351
Yeah man lets make Mario a girl too because he's not iconic at fucking all. Link even has a reason to always come back male, one that was firmly established after SS
>>341143893
Twisting other peoples words is a mental illness.
Being a woman is good. Being a man is good.
Turning a male character to a female because feelings is not good. fuck off.
>>341078614
>>341144502
where is that poll from, out of interest?
>>341143893
>>341144502
Femanon here, can confirm. Only trannies and nu-males are asking for this. Leave our husbando alone.
>>341144351
Not the legendary hero whose tale is passed down as each incarnation appears though the ages to defeat evil and save the land? None of this is ringing a bell? A different or new character suddenly being just as capable of taking over that role actually fundamentally changes his place in the series, rather than simply having slightly differently-shaped polygons.
Since each Link is a reincarnation of SS Link, this is literally the only Nintendo character that can be either male or female.
But somehow, retards will always say "IF LINK CAN BE A GIRL, I WANT MALE SAMUS"
>>341143221
Ironically WW link isnt even a reincarnation either, so no mater how you look at it, it doesnt fucking matter.
>>341144778
post your feet pls
>>341144548
>Yeah man lets make Mario a girl
Nobody's arguing for that, faggot
>Link even has a reason to always come back male, one that was firmly established after SS
Anything "established" in a Zelda game comes out of Nintendo's ass, they confirmed to hell and back that they don't give a shit about the lore and will contradict it if they feel the need. Why is self contradiction suddenly a problem with you people?
>>341144952
>want Male Samus
just play halo?
>>341144615
http://www.zeldainformer.com/articles/zelda-fan-survey-2014-results-more-older-than-younger-fans-interesting-fan
>>341144778
>Femanon that doesn't know Link can reincarnate
just kill yourself
>>341048596
>If it does, is this a good thing?
It can be. And here is why: they always wanted him to be a Link with the player, so sure why not. It seems they tested the waters with Linkle already (even though they completely ripped off the Dragon's Crown Elf).
They have also admitted Link is very "girly" already, so they might as well just leave it as it is, and that's fine too, Zelda has a lot of things to improve instead after all.
>>341144548
>established SS
considering SS retconned Minish Cap I don't think anyone should really take any of the Zelda lore too seriously
>>341144952
Except gender is a very defined thing for souls in the Zelda universe. If not, then Zelda and Ganon can reincarnate into the opposite sex as well.
>>341144615
>where is that poll from
"research"
>>341144870
>Not the legendary hero whose tale is passed down as each incarnation appears though the ages to defeat evil and save the land?
No.
Why the fuck do you think Nintendo cares about the plot of Zelda? Hell, why do you think anybody cares about the plot of Zelda? Nobody except the top-tier Nintendobabbie autists care.
Nintendo doesn't need a canon justification to do this cause the canon doesn't matter to them.
>>341145343
>nu-male anon doesn't know that Link's soul is male
kys
>>341144870
I don't give a shit about the lore, and neither does Nintendo. Also,
>It's impossible for anyone other than an incarnation/descendant of Link to be a hero cuz their not teh chozen 1.
It's old cliches like this that NEED to be dropped.
>>341145552
>Femanon making up shit
Source where Link's "soul" has a fucking gender?
>>341059928
>implying only 1 sandwich is enough to satisfy her
>>341145343
It's not about the lore dummy, it's about preserving a character that people care about. It doesn't matter how many in universe explanations you could come up with to bastardize the series. There's a real world explanation as to why you shouldn't, which is that it's pointless and destructive.
If you can only play as link who are those other guys in triforce heroes?
>>341145343
betacuck confirmed.
>>341145513
>>341145684
Sure, but don't pretend you're the one who cares deeply about how consistently Link is represented in the games when you don't give a fuck about anything beyond a surface aesthetic.
>>341145841
>Link
>character
he's a blankslate self-insert
>>341076362
>implying he didn't return to Hylure ok and fucked a rancher girl in the missionary position with the sole purpose of procreation
>>341145368
>SS
>Bigass, expensive title
>big importzant story someone spent time on making
>not taking precedence Minish Cap, a good but far more disposable title
Vaati canon was always fucked anyways.
>>341146128
see
>>341139675
Please let this stale non-argument meme die.
>>341145871
Haven't played Triforce Heroes, but it's probably the same case as Four Swords.
>>341145091
>nobody's arguing for that
No, just arguing for an equally iconic character to change "Because"
>>341145684
Is it safe to assume that no one played WW here? He wasn't chosen. The kid had to go around and find the pieces of the triforce. You think everyone would know that since its the second biggest complaint for the game besides sailing
>>341145513
It also matters from a buisness and marketing standpoint because when people think of Zelda, they think of the Link - the MALE protagonist.
This is the same male protagonist that got numerous gamergurls and gaymers interested in Zelda in the first place.
It's the same male protagonist that sells spinoff shit, like amiibo or MK DLC crap.
It's basically been the same male protagonist for 30 years. Yes, there are different Links with various design adjustments and personality quirks, but him being male is one of his staples.
Genderbender shit almost never works for established characters and icons. Look at what happened to the genderbender craze for Marvelshit and capeshit for example. It fucking bombed. The upcoming Ghostbusters movie is going to bomb as well because of this. This shit is a fucking fad that will die down once the current generation of teens and twentie-somethings start growing up or settling down.
>>341145396
>Except gender is a very defined thing for souls in the Zelda universe.
According to fucking what?
>If not, then Zelda and Ganon can reincarnate into the opposite sex as well.
Sure, but Ganon's only reincarnated once and that was into the exact same thing, and a male Zelda presumably couldn't actually be called Zelda and so probably his lifetime wouldn't get a game.
>>341146172
Yeah and if the Hero's Shad means anything, he died.
In battle.
Alone and forgotten.
>>341146283
Anybody who argues about "muh preservation of muh stale blankslate" is outing themselves as autistic. Caring about the plot in a Zelda game is like caring about the plot in porn, it's top-tier cancer and makes you a very small minority among the target audience of mostly casual gamers and children.
>>341146373
He was still a reincarnation, though.
>>341146604
>I don't like Link so nobody else is allowed to
Typical SJW orbiting nu-male. Just fucking kill yourself already.
>>341145396
>then Zelda and Ganon can reincarnate into the opposite sex as well.
Zelda = Hylia (female)
Ganon = Demise (male)
Link = Hylia's chosen. Link is whoever the fucki the spirit feels like reincarnating into.
Also Link is supposed to a the "Link" between the player and the character. An avatar, much like Red from Pokemon.
It's not the same for Zelda and Ganon.
>>341146527
>according to fucking what
I dunno, why does the Goddess Hylia keep coming back as a woman and why does Demise keep coming back as a man? Could it be that their souls have a predefined sex?
