Why is nobody talking about NEW BERSERK GAME ANNOUNCED?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7UutjlpMf04
Because musoushit.
Because it's going to be shit.
>>341038604
/thread
Because it's a barebones teaser and is developed by Omega Force?
Because it's a musou that means it will be shit, but the fact that it's a DW musou means extra shit. DW has the one of the most braindead, uninteresting combat systems in all vidya. The Sengoku Basara series has a much more solid combat system, but it still gets old really quick because Musou means 200 enemies standing in a circle around you, and every 30 seconds one of them attacks. It's goddamn upsetting.
Don't you remember, anon? Berserk is just like Lovecraft. Any adaptation of it is guaranteed to be complete ass.
The only positive about this game is that, depressing though this is, the cutscenes will probably look better than the new anime.
Because its being built for vita and pc
Its not going to be the good single player action adventure berserk game we all wanted. Its going to be set up in generic missions like every other w force game
>>341038471
there's no gameplay.
what would we talk about?
Because berserk is shit
>>341038471
fuck off shill
>>341038471
https://boards.fireden.net/v/search/text/berserk/type/op/
>>341038885
seriously. This manga hasn't been good or interesting in nearly a fucking DECADE and people still cum at the mere thought of more shitty "Guts and his moe friends adventure."
>>341038471
>musou crap
>ecchi shit
>the manga will still never end
No one cares fuck off.
>>341038471
And what the fuck do you want to do in a berserk game? Play as Guts and kill le epic demones? Fucking dull casual.
>>341039102
At least they got off the boat
>>341038994
>people still cum at the mere thought of more shitty "Guts and his moe friends adventure."
This, Golden Age arc is fucking garbage
>>341038471
Why is every thread pretending that we didn't have a 500+ reply thread just before this one was made?
>>341038994
I cant believen how popular it is, the only explanation is that is some kind of meme among normalfags or something
Jojo I can understand liking it, I dont either but I get it.
>>341039376
Which one is golden age?
>>341039407
Because Berserk has edgy anime with boobs and gore.
>musou
Fuck off. Don't even give me that "But that's what Berserk is like!" garbage. No it's not. Berserk is not about running around in empty fields chasing objective points to capture.
Musou games are fucking garbage, but at least Berserk will get more fans this way so at there's a silver lining.
>>341039669
>at least Berserk will get more fans this way
How the fuck is that a good thing the fanbase is cancerous enough already
>>341039407
>it's a "I don't understand why people like [x]" post
Kill yourself.
>>341038471
>Berserk is good
The greatest meme in existence.
>>341039552
Before the Eclipse.
>All this hate
Put your grasses on
>>341038471
It's Sony exclusive, of course /v/ is going to pretend they don't want it.
>>341039786
Because I'm not an autist that cares about the quality of fanbases.
>>341039795
Yes I dont because its shit, plot goes nowhere characters degenerate into caricatures of themselves, the author doesnt give a fuck.
Its shit anon.
>>341039913
If it's so shit then why are you spending time in a thread about a video game for it?
Could it be autism?
If you really want to know why people like it, go ask /a/. They'll probably make fun of you for being a dumbass /v/ crossposter that likes DBZ and JoJo though.
Golden Age is overrated but still great.
Black Swordsman, Lost Children and Rebirth are the peak of Berserk
>>341039892
Steam
>>341038471
>starts with the rape of casca
hot
Because it's already confirmed to be beyond shit.
>musou
>Vita multiplat
It doesn't get any worse than this. Pachislot is better.
>>341039892
Confirmed for Steam, dumbass.
>no gameplay
>the only thing we know is that it's going to be musou
What's there to talk about
If anything they were smart by not showing what's going to be inevitably shit gameplay
Also
>koei tecmo licensed games
Oh boy
Do you honestly need any more indications to stay away from this mess
>>341039997
Because I like offering my opinion about whatever I fell like
Thats why Im on this board, not my fault you cant deal with criticism
And I dont like Jojo nor DB
>>341038471
even the Berserk mango is gonna be finished before this game is and it's gonna be better too
Clearly there are some salty fans here, so ignoring them, what would you like to see?
I want an RPG that plays somewhat like XBC, losing and saving teammates, quest system with bosses that fight on par with or better than monster hunter enemies, and a NG+ where youplay from Griffith's point of view
>>341038471
>Delicious brown tits
SOLD
>>341038713
omega force did hyrule warriors didnt they? I thought that was well received
>teaser is casca getting tentacle raped
Nice
Cant look worse than the new anime at least
>>341040178
I liked Hyrule Warriors because of the fan service, but it was just another musou reskin.
>>341040149
It is confirmed to be a Musou
Who cares about this shit? Where's my Claymore game?
>>341040259
Doesn't Berserk actually lend itself well to the genre, unlike literally anything else?
>teaser for a musou game is the rape of the female lead
musou is only a small tier above pachinko machine
Japan is literally shit
>>341040419
>Claymore
2007 called, they want their anime back
>>341040431
Yes it's much more musou-like than Zelda, but in the end it'll just be another musou game.
I'm still getting it though because I sort of like musou games and I've been dying for a Berserk game for years.
>>341040149
It's a MUSOU, anon. It won't be any of that. It's going to be exactly like every other MUSOU game.
normalfag pandering
>oh soo dark and gritty!
berserk fans are game of thrones fans
>>341040536
>2007 called
they did? DID YOU WARN THEM ABOUT WHAT HAPPENS
that trailer is weirdly risqué considering the times we live in
i love it tho, tone is perfect for berkserk
game will likely be shit, berserk deserves some weighty deliberate gameplay not musou light light heavy the whole game
i want bossfights against apostles and shit
no roaming on a battlefield, that works for the golden years but fuck man
>>341038824
>Berserk is just like Lovecraft. Any adaptation of it is guaranteed to be complete ass.
Bloodborne.
>>341040620
Nah I just told young me to invest in bitcoins
>>341040570
have a you
Tbqh it's the only interesting E3 announcement so far.
Will rape horse be an enemy?
>>341040626
I see what you mean, and I say this as someone whose favorite game is Bloodborne: it is -not- an adaptation of Lovecraft.
It incorporates many lovecraftian themes, but that does not make it an adaptation. It's not an attempt to bring a lovecraft story into another medium, it's an original story incorporating some lovecraftian themes.
>Guys, we need to make a trailer for our new Berserk game.
>Wait - I've got it!
>We'll have Casca being tentacle raped!
FUCK YOU JAPAN
>PSVita game
>so it will be incredibly bad looking and have gimped gameplay features as a result
yay
>>341040952
>trailer
It's a teaser.
>>341041015
I hope the full length trailer has the scene in better detail
>you actually play as a tentacle rape demon
>you cut through ranks of lusty maidens and defeat them by bringing them to climax, dozens at once
>>341040879
That edit is a peach.
>>341040904
what is this shoop?
So by the teaser it seems like it's post-eclipse, but wouldn't a pre-eclipse game make more sense in the musou context? Fighting along huge army battles and such.
>>341041107
Bloodborne DLC.
>>341040007
Lost Children is fucking amazing.
>>341041257
>Post yfw the first time you read that page.
>>341038471
>Click link
>Suggest vid is Gust outfits for DOA5
Hold the fucking press! Forget berserk. DOA5 is getting high impact sexual violence.
>The battle where he fights Bazuso
>100 man slayer
>Doldrey
>The Eclipse
>Rosine + Fairies
>Iron Chain Knights
>Cultist demon things
>Mozgus + Demons
>Trolls
>Probably Trolls again
>Trolls + Slan
>Arabic demons
>Team-up with Zodd vs. Ganishka's demon army
>Pirates
>Sea god zombie pirates
>Sea god
Any other ideas for levels? I assume there'll be one or two from Griffith's point of view vs. Ganishka if it gets that far in the story.
>>341038471
I don't care who is making it, I'm finally fucking getting a berzerk game. I'm playing that shit into the ground.
>>341041997
It's the third Berserk game you retard
>>341041762
The 100 man slayer is a great example of why this game will be fucking stupid. You kill 100 people every 5 minutes in these shit games
god dammit DW games are such shit
>>341038471
Everybody knows it's gonna suck.
>>341041997
Unfortunately you'll feel like you've played it into the ground after 6 or 7 hours because musoushit
I still have fun with Musou games, so I'm pumped.
>>341040431
There's more boss fights than large scale battles in the manga. Guts doesn't fight hundreds or thousands of demons in any scene. It's 50 at most. His fights against one large monster are what matters and there's way more of that.
>>341040259
> but it was just another musou reskin.
By that logic every game of every genre is just another new reskin of the same genre.
>>341039102
kill yorself sjw shit
>>341038471
Because there's nothing to talk about. You just posted a video of Caska getting felt up for a minute.
>>341042239
Delete yourself from this imageboard, shitposter.
>>341042439
>nothing to talk about
>Caska getting felt up for a minute
#Orlando
>>341042418
low-level meme
>>341038471
there were threads about this earlier bruh
>>341039205
You know there's no land way out of an island right
Think about it for a second and let it sink in
>>341042536
That sounds like berserk
So yeah nothing out of the ordinary to talk about
>>341040870
Why the fuck would you complain about that scene being shown? If you have read/watched the series, you know damn well how important/iconic that scene is. It's like Goku going Super Saiyan for the first time.
>>341042640
>he doesn't like talking about berserk
then why are you even here?
>>341041762
Rape minigame
>>341042641
tfw no scene where goku gets raped by vegeta in order to reach his next power level
>the most amount of enemies Guts has ever fought in a single battle was 100 men
>being excited for a musou in which you'll do this effortlessly every minute
Berserk is all about boss fights and this game ensures they'll be terrible.
>>341042738
I like talking about berserk
But thanks to miura each chapter takes as long as the development of a new game to come out
Berserk has no good adaptations and Guts is fucking cursed to suffer forever.
>>341040178
Hyrule Warriors was awful anon.
>>341042738
It's about the game, not the series. There's nothing to discuss with the game, besides speculation. I mean, if that's your thing, go for it.
>>341042753
>it just seems messed up
HAVE YOU NOT READ BERSERK? THAT'S THE POINT. Fuck these people.
>>341038471
>Koei
Wow, another extremely tedious dynasty warriors but with different poorly done models? So much hype. Very excited.
>>341042938
>Implying the Dreamcast and PS2 games werent good
>>341038471
teaser starts with tentacle rape
Them silly japanese people
Berserk dropped in quality the moment Schierke was introduced but I still like it because the alternative is some fucking moeshit or anime about white haired 14yo who is half demon half angel quarter autist and wants to kill God.
>>341042753
while its clear they chose the rape scene over any other was because they're dirty, perverted japs, its still nothing to care about. if you're into berserk you've already accepted that rape is a justifiable means to an end
>>341042938
>how to announce loud and clear i have never played the ps2 game
Whens the idolmaster crossover
>>341042753
i don't see anything wrong with what they're saying
why show the rape scene to advertise the game instead of gameplay
>>341043157
If you want to stretch the concept further why would you ever be upset with marketing material, ever.
If you have something against the product, or in this case being a game, if you have something against the gameplay, sure. But "oh no I don't like how this product is being presented/marketed".
I really don't understand these poiple
>>341043330
>Griffith as a talent agent
>>341043142
Nobody would force you to take the alterntive
>>341039376
Golden Age was Berserk at it's best you fucking nigger who jerks off to Schierke and considers Isidro a cool character because he's underage just like you so you can relate.
>>341043353
The game is probably nowhere near completion. It's a teaser. They're letting it be known that they're making another game.
>all this Twitter bitching
WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT GRAPHIC CONTENT IN BERSERK?
>>341043142
>Current year
>moeshit
>>341043572
Oh you think they're fans? How cute.
>>341040626
Why did you even mention Bloodborne and not Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, which is actually based on Lovecraft stories, or Eternal Darkness, which does Lovecraft-inspired better than Bloodborne?
>>341038471
I love Berserk and I love Musou.
Normalfags get out.
>>341043353
Because CG Trailers exist to show a concept, to say "we're working on this game".
How would you show what a Berserk musou game is about? Show the scene where Guts turned into a rip and tear machine.
>>341043528
Golden Age doesnt have Mozgus, so it clearly cant be the best
>>341043736
>Call of Cthulhu: Dark Corners of the Earth, which is actually based on Lovecraft stories
Yeah I remember MC shooting Dagon and shit and being a superhuman bean with ebin powers in Lovecraft stories.
Wait... I don't.
>>341043662
I don't know, man. I never really know anymore.
>>341043353
Because the eclipse it's the single most important event in Berserk.
Also it's a teaser, not a trailer, so there's no gameplay.
>>341039865
What? Who cares about that shit. It's just a generic boring low fantasy before the Eclipse.
>>341043768
But it doesn't have Isidro either so it's clearly better.
>>341043528
>Golden Age was Berserk at it's best
Just go fucking read Pierre the Mercenary or any other Medieval Manga that does Golden Arc much better. Berserk didn't start become good until the Black Swordsman Arc.
>>341042753
This is legit. I'm as against all this feminist shit as anyone else, but it's a fucking stupid teaser. Sure, people familiar with Berserk understand the critical importance of that scene, but imagine someone who doesn't know anything about Berserk. How the fuck that does trailer communicate what Berserk is all about?
>>341038824
>Because it's a musou that means it will be shit
Opinion.
> but the fact that it's a DW musou means extra shit. DW has the one of the most braindead
Where did you get this info that it's "DW"? Because no other musou is DW other than DW.
You shouldn't make it so apparent that you don't actually play the games.
>>341038471
zero gameplay
what's to talk about?
>>341044163
>until the Black Swordsman arc
which is the very first arc of the manga you dumb fucking faggot who tries to fit in but didn't read the manga
>>341044163
>retroactively unread golden age and read something else instead
full retard
>>341044163
Well... black swordsman was literally the first arc.
>>341043876
Nobody and everybody is a "fan", anon.
If they want to get offended on twitter, they're a "fan" because they think it'll give their argument some merit.
But when it comes down to it, they arent shit.
>Nobody would complain if the teaser was Guts getting raped by wise magical negro
think about that for a bit /v/
>>341043736
because dark corners of the earth is shit and because neither eternal darkness OR bloodborne can really be called "adaptations" of lovecraft, they're just inspired by/thematically influenced by lovecraft
>>341043572
a small video of casca getting molested by tentacles isn't a good representation of berserk though
it would've been better if in addition to that they could've had shots of griffith feeling her up and guts trying to cut his arm free or something
>>341044163
You retarded or something? Golden Age was the peak of Berserk. The next few arcs were decent, but not on par, and it turned into dogshit when the kid and the loli were introduced and Puck started breaking the fourth wall.
>>341044460
That would've taken more than 50 seconds.
>never got into berserk before
>see everyone getting excited about this trailer
>check out trailer, it's creepy shit
>look into where the scene comes from
>like 100 page long sexualized rape (she's CLEARLY depicted as enjoying it)
>most "iconic" moment for the franchise
Yeah this isn't something you should be applauding.
>>341044163
but the black swordsman arc came before the golden age arc...
Characters it would be cool to play as but probably wont make it in:
>Silat
>Moth Girl
>Rape Horse
>>341044318
>>341044323
>>341044338
Which is why it set the setting, Golden Age was nothing more but a flashback to explain Guts rage. There's a reason why the Manga peaked with Tower of Conviction and Griffiths return to the realm of humans.
Golden Age was generic crap that you find in every corner but was needed to establish relationships of characters. The only people that think Golden Age was the peak of Berserk are dumbasses that don't read much Medieval Manga.
>>341044489
All the early arcs are amazing but Lost Children/Rebirth/Black Swordsman are better than Golden Age, they're just not as iconic because they've never been adapted and they don't have the eclipse in them.
>>341044460
>a small video of casca getting molested by tentacles isn't a good representation of berserk though
>the scene where guts turns from mercenary to rage unbound and a machine that exists only to rip and tear for the next arcs isnt a good representation of berserk and what a berserk musou would be
You're an idiot, anon.
>>341044624
I don't think we'll play as anyone but guts tbqh
>>341043572
Dude, the game is being RELEASED in japan on August 29th. That's 10 weeks from now. There's no way they don't have anything to show.
>>341044576
>she's CLEARLY depicted as enjoying it
>enjoying it
>when she was fearing for her life, and all of her loved ones were dying around her
>when she comes out of it completely fucked
>enjoying it
Well, okay.
>>341044254
I've played the games, moron.
What I mean is that it's not just a musou, it's being made by omega force, which means it will use the DW combat system. Every Omega Force musou uses the DW combat system.
XY
XXY
XXXY
etc
>>341044576
Stop shitposting, anon.
>>341044576
>rape (she's CLEARLY depicted as enjoying
reconsider
>>341043528
Nigga I was just making a joke.
>>341038471
Because you missed the past 3 threads about it today already
>>341044438
People would complain that the black guy represents immigrants raping natives
>>341044576
enjoyed it so much that she turned into a retarded for the rest of her life
I want the dub actors back
"GRIFFITHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
I don't like musou but I'll still get this
>>341045038
Art is only supposed to be about making my feely weelies feel good :(
>>341044742
We should get Zodd at least for Griffith's bits, if it gets past Conviction. Griffith himself would be too OP.
>>341044945
>Every Omega Force musou uses the DW combat system.
And this is how I know you're talking shit.
>XY
>XXY
>XXXY
And this makes it even more apparent.
>>341045108
After people who were literally raped by immigrants refused to come forth because it would damage their desire for a "world without borders", do you seriously think people would be complaining about a black on white rape?
>SJWs triggered by Berserk trailer
>Claiming to be fans while talking about the eclipse like its the worst thing ever when there is MUCH worse after the golden age
>Probably only saw the shitty CGI movies and claim to be an expert
Oh I'm laffin
I don't like musou games but I'll at least give this a pirate if it has good gore.
They wouldn't make a Berserk game without blood and dismemberment, would they?
>>341045306
How the fuck am I wrong? I'll admit I've only played the mainline DW games and Hyrule Warriors, but as far as I know they all use that same combat system, except for the attack on titan game.
And how does that make it more apparent? It's completely fucking accurate.
The system is: press X to do something boring and useless. Press Y to do something "Cool" that actually does damage. Which "Cool" thing Y does is determined by how many times you press X beforehand.
>>341038471
So Woolie was right? Or whichever of those fats said there'd be a berserk muso game, I forget which one.
>>341044706
Black Swordsman was very unpolished and had Guts at his edgelord phase. The Conviction Arc was decent, and I can't fault it for the lack of main story progression as it was a follow up to the Golden Age arc and needed to offer some breathing space. The later Arcs progressed the story more rapidly but lacked grit and melancholic atmosphere and was just shitty. Miura simply doesn't know what he's doing anymore.
>No Kingdoms Under Fire Game: Berserk Edition instead
Why
>>341044742
You don't understand what's a musou.. Right?
So who expects this game to actually deliver? I don't.
>>341045108
>Implying white people are allowed to be natives.
>>341045561
All different musous have their own gimmicks to them, whether it's hyper attacks or specialications or something else.
Pirate Warriors for example has far more going on for it in combat.
>And how does that make it more apparent? It's completely fucking accurate.
Because even in DW you have stuff like switches and special moves.
What you're basically saying is that as long as a game uses "basic" quick attacks and "heavy" strong attacks it's "DW combat system", so according to you, DMC/Ninja Gaiden have DW combat system.
Someone explain this to me: it's June 13th, the game comes out August 29th, so in like 2 months.
How the fuck do they have no gameplay, or even cutscenes to show? Surely they could've put together an actual trailer by 2 months before release?
Obviously they could have, so we should assume it'll be shown at one of the press conferences today or tomorrow, right? Sony seems most likely.
The twist is you don't play as Guts at all
>>341045826
Musou Games don't actually deliver in the story department. You basically always have a 10 second cutscene ingame when you capture a fort etc. and that's it.
I feel that Berserk would only get justice if it worked like The Witcher 3.
>>341046041
The problem with DW is that most special attacks are performed at the end of a chain of normal attacks. This means there is really no way to mix specials together in interesting ways.
Ninja Gaiden and DMC both have tons of special attacks that can be performed at any time, without needing to be led into, which means you can mix them up and combine them in interesting ways.
>>341041107
A boss from Bloodborne that reminded people of the rape horse, mostly because that fight is fucking hard and feels a lot like a rape.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPP1e7hOyik
Because musou games not made by the samurai/dynasty warrior team end up bad anyway
>>341046314
>You basically always have a 10 second cutscene ingame when you capture a fort etc. and that's it.
Have you actually played musous?No you haven't.
>>341046137
It's a teaser, dude. Expect an actual trailer to come out soon.
>>341045356
It's really funny.
>Rape Horse
>Troll rape cave full of nude, abducted women
>Ganishka forcing women to give birth to demons
>that vision Guts has where he becomes a dog monster and bites off Casca's tits
>not to mention rape or attempted rape of Casca is one of the most common things that occurs in the series
Why do they even pretend?
>>341038885
This, it's just shonen shit with a "mature" coat of paint.
>>341046558
I played Dynasty Warriors and Sengoku Basara and if you call any of the cut-scenes a "Story" you are retarded. Souls Games have more story exposition to them than either games.
>>341038471
That was sexy. Hopefully it has more erotic stuff in the game itself.
Hey guys Griffith here I just wanted to confess something
I made iDOLM@STER to stop Miura from writing berserk so guts wont get his revenge
So from the trailer the game is going to take place after the golden age right? So what, we're going to defend zones in demon rape town or something?
>>341046719
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lZ2Bts9qZUU
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1gqURAqbJWE
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RaDpzXevGn8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ucQkf3Vvgag
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-ta62YvsV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atNnvkgiLYw
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WsiXYHeuWgA
There's some. Before battles there are story parts which cover more as well. Consider yourself retarded.
>>341038994
Christ, might as well off yourself you shit taste faggot, your life isn't going to get better.
NUKE THE USA
NUKE THE USA
NUKE THE USA
NUKE THE USA
>>341047060
Kens Rage was an abomination and shows that my point stands that a Musou Game will never do justice to a manga adaption.
I just want it to not be a fucking musou
Newfag to Berserk and I want to watch the upcoming anime. Should I watch the original anime first? How are the movies?
>Clone of a game /v/ agrees is garbage
>But it is berserk flavored garbage, so HOOIIIPPPE!
>>341047205
>ugh raped women
>mmm rape towards men
ffffffag
>>341047304
Read the manga instead
>>341047257
>to a manga adaption.
yeah, probably, but I really like Hyrule Warriors, maybe they can pull it off?
>>341047205
>i really want to see more rape towards men in berserk
these people seriously dont read what they type, their feelings come first every single time
>>341047257
Yet Pirate Warriors games are fucking fantastic.
Besides that, that wasn't the point at all. You were proven wrong on your claims.
>Musou shit
why
I liked Hyrule warriors and Pirate warriors. But how is tower defense going to work in berserk
1. Berserk isn't as popular as you think it is.
2. Most people don't like Musou games.
3. There's literally nothing but a cutscene teaser.
>>341047205
Yeah just ignore that the main character is raped but SURE WHATEVER
Musou is a love it or hate it thing
>>341046415
This.
For example, Sengoku Basara actually has a very robust combat system with some real combo potential, it's leagues better than the DW combat system.
But even the Sengoku Basara games get really old really quick because even the good combat isn't enough to make up for the musou formula.
Fantasia Arc was fucking garbage, fuck Sea God too, and to think about it fuck everything after Conviction Arc.
I still like Berserk because muh nostalgia and I wanna see Guts impale Griffith [/spoiler]with his cockthough
>>341047543
>1. Berserk isn't as popular as you think it is.
Oh no its not popular, I can't like it anymore :(
>>341046984
That's okay. You did nothing wrong.
Casca's rape is LITERALLY the most important scene of Berserk
Why do people who pretend to read the manga are triggered
>>341046984
GRIFIIIIIITH
>>341046984
GRIIIFFIIIIIIITTTHHH!!!!!!!
>>341047205
>2016
>Getting triggered by Rape Horse and Griffith's rape scenes
>Forgetting Guts got raped
>>341047659
Unfortunately, I think I might agree with you.
The Berserker Armor just fucking ruins everything.
>>341046687
They know that berserk is popular enough that they need to pretend to like it to get their anime nerd cred for their tumblr blogs, but they also can't abide by literally anything that happens in it.
It's a paradox.
>>341047660
The OP asked why nobody's talking about it. I was just answering that. Put the three factors together and you don't get too much discussion other than either arguments about whether Musou is shit and shitflinging over the controversy because the trailer is Casca getting fucked.
I mean I'm excited for it, but I don't really see there being too much to talk about yet. Other than it better not be like fucking DW8 where they for PC ported the PS3 version instead of the PS4 version.
>>341047304
The original anime is bad and skips a lot of important story content. The movies are bad and skip a lot of important story content. The upcoming anime will -probably- be bad, but even if it isn't it starts after one of the most important arcs of the manga, it doesn't start from the beginning of the story.
Read the manga. Berserk adaptations are cursed, and the manga is god-tier.
>>341048109
Best thing to come from the anime is the bloopers from the dub
>>341047304
Read the manga you fucking pleb
>>341048261
WHO'S GONNA JERK ME OFF
>>341048261
MY LOVE FOR YOU IS LIKE A TRUCK
BERSERKER
>>341048261
THEY'LL NEVER TAKE OUR GRIFFISU
The BLACKED swordman
>>341047304
Anime had memorable soundtrack but it's fucking censored and it also cut out plenty of content one important event which you can see from miles in the manga comes pretty much out of the blue in the anime.
>>341048261
Cum
you can cum with me
>>341048261
BECAUSE IM A GIRL WHO CANT SAY NOOOOOO!
>>341047659
The stuff with Rickert was pretty interesting desu
>>341045313
Yes, because it would be showing something they try to hide.
we already have 3 dark souls games
>>341049528
Demon's Souls was the closest one to Berserk, newfag.
>>341038885
kill yourself berserk is perfect
>>341049528
>>341049652
And dragon's dogma warrior class is closer to Berserk than any of them.
Miyazaki steals tons of shit, especially monster and armor designs, from berserk, but any of the souls games with an UGS are just way too slow to be similar to how guts fights.
>>341048261
WHOOO ARE YOUUU
IM BATMAN
>>341047205
These people get worse and worse with each passing day. How long until they start committing terrorist attacks in the name of their crossdressing genderfluid demigod?
>>341038604
This. I was like oh shit but then it's just another button masher. How disappointing.
>>341039913
Just kill yourself or go back to watching Lucky Star and Kill la Kill.
>>341049652
No it wasn't you fucking retard
>>341047205
>Guts raped as a child, which is objectively worse
>He's a ,man though, so that's fine.
>>341050370
Well at least those have an epilogue and are not just lazy cash grabs milked to infinitum.
>>341050469
>Younger blacksmith
>BOTH named Rickert
This is what fucking seals it.
Guts was
>raped as a child
>lost his arm and eye while watching his best friend who also sacrificed his friends to horrible monstrosities rape his girlfriend
>is mentally damaged beyond all repair altough he's chiller than he used to be
meh fuck him it's a dude
>Casca gets raped
OMG call the press
altough she didn't deserve it
>>341047438
>Yet Pirate Warriors games are fucking fantastic.
Even as a OP fan, they really really aren't fantastic. They are fun for a while, but they're still mindless musou brawling, with half the characters being completely useless.
More like Blacked Swordsman
>>341051217
Imbalance is quite a common problem in Musous indeed.
>>341051079
And he was raped all night long.
Casca's rape was definitely freakier, but at least it ended faster.
>>341047543
>1. Berserk isn't as popular as you think it is.
It is on 4chan and especially on /v/(hence the recurring threads since the reveal)
>2. Most people don't like Musou games.
Its a fairly popular franchise. "Most people don't like X" is not really an argument
>3. There's literally nothing but a cutscene teaser.
True
>>341044742
Do you know what a Musou is? The point is to cram in as many playable characters as possible. Look at Hyrule Warriors: Medli and The King of fucking BOATS from Windwaker as well as Marin from Link's Awakening are added as characters.
>>341040178
>omega force did hyrule warriors didnt they? I thought that was well received
It wasn't. The only people who received it well were either die hard musou fans, or those who wrote a review on metacritic after playing for half an hour.
The game might be fun for a couple of hours but after that its an endless repetition and grind. It goes downhill fast. And everybody knows that. Thats why HW/musou fans usually defend with quality posts like this >>341051002
>>341051272
I wanna play Donovan.
>>341047543
Berserk has such a hardcore cult following powerful enough to make them go apeshit with anything game related announced.
The problem I think it's because it's a musou, which we can all agree is the japanese equivalent of the generic military 1st person shooter
>>341038471
>musou
nothing to talk about.
>>341041762
it doesn't matter, all levels will be smashing through a horde of unimaginative small fries while they do almost nothing at all until you fight another hero/boss.
The thing I've always hated about musou games is that you're surrounded by hundreds of soldiers who never attack.
You could drop the fucking controller and you'd probably have time to make a sandwich before any of the mooks attacked you
>>341052325
Its on pc, so obvious choice is to pirate and find out. I bought both fotns kens rage 1 & 2 and as much as I wanted to like a new game from the series, musou games are so fucking repetitive and boring, I assume this game is going the same route. Fucking cashgrab for the new anime
>>341046984
GRIFFFIIIIIIIITHHHHHHHH
Berserk is edgy shit for teenagers and Sasuke could easily defeat Guts.
>>341054221
>berserk is edgy and for teenagers
>likes naruto
a ha
a ha ha ha
A HA HA HAHAHAHAHA
aaaaAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HAHAHAHA
>>341038471
No one gives a fuck about Berserk anymore.
Fun fact: People who like Berserk have either read nothing else or are the type of people who read shitty shounenshit and/or harem garbage. They literally have no standards whatsoever. It's like when a CoDfag plays Skyrim and thinks that it's some kind of deep experience and the epitome of its medium without having played anything else.
>>341051672
>>341044742
Even the fist of the north star games had you playing as dudes aside from Kenshiro.
It's a fucking musou game. Of course there's going to be plenty of playable characters.
>>341055612
(You)
>>341055612
You're almost right. It's more like a CoDfag playing Half-Life and thinking it's some kind of deep experience and the epitome of its medium. It's good, and it definitely got some new shit going, but it ain't perfect, and it's become a meme over the years.
>>341038604
What? What could literally be more Berserk than a musou game?
>>341054221
>>341055612
Here's your (you)
>>341038471
>it's an "I'm on a long boat trip" sim
>>341055612
this to be honest desu
Apart from the golden age, Berserk is nothing but a generic shounen manga with decent art, naked women, rape, and some lolies on the side.
>Guts can fight at most 100 men at a time
>1 Guts = 100 good men
>take 100 good men and defeat apostles
>become hero of Midland
>eat behelits with Skull Knight
Why doesn't anyone do that?
>>341056818
>generic shounen manga
but with
>decent art
>naked women
>rape
>lolis
So it's not a generic shounen manga?
Here's your reply :)
>>341056094
>>341056364
>>341056417
>a big guy is trying to get his revenge with the help of his rpg party and the powerups he gets along the way
Woah.... Deep...
>>341057369
Even One Piece has those things senpai.
>>341056818
>art
Not, they're illustrations.
Berserk is garbage purely because they guy who makes it spends too much time per panel making them decorative and intricate, but then it's printed and the details aren't really viewable anyway. If he wants to do fancy illustrations, he should go for it buit he shouldn't force it into a manga where he's supposed to be telling a story with the information in the panels, not putting too much information in every panel and forcing the whole thing to get delayed for years at a time to compensate for it.
..
Plus, it's gone on so long with such little progression that whatever idea he initially had has fallen to the back of his mind so the quality of the story is blatantly suffering for it.
If they make a DMC style Berserk game, though, I'm getting it.
>>341057961
He just wants to cure his girlfriend at the moment actually.
>>341058556
So you literally want this?
Fuck off retard. Bleach is probably more to your liking.
>>341057961
what powerups? A sword when his breaks? One singular piece of armor?
Boiling a show down to simplicity is silly, ever "unique" show could be done that way and you know it. Not to mention, the show was always about revenge, that's what makes it good, its not just naruto/sasuke levels of rivalry. Fucking griffith was his bro on some real levels and he did him dirty af senpai. Plus, the manga is still ongoing, shit's getting hype again
>>341060571
>A sword when his breaks?
It never broke though.
>One singular piece of armor?
Yeah a piece of armor that literally makes him invincible and gives him super strength.
>inb4 b-b-but it can kill him
It will never kill him though because plot armor.
>Not to mention, the show was always about revenge
Not the Golden Age arc which is objectively the best arch.
>the manga is still ongoing
Yeah no shit. It will NEVER end.
>>341060243
>implying
There's absolutely no need for redundant background details, how does that equate to Bleach? Why are you so offended?
Manga, as a medium, is literary storytelling through imagery... That doesn't work when your images are overloaded. Again, it doesn't help when the whole thing gets delayed because you wanted more random trees and background fights in the image, distracting from the actual narrative.
It's like you're a complete moron or something. Maybe it's you who should be reading Bleach since you have such a boner for giant sword man and his lack of plot, lack of direction and lack of quality.
>>341055021
AAAAAAHAHAAAAAAAA
AAAAAAHHHHHHH
AAAAHHHHHH!!!!
>>341060571
>shit's getting hype again
L O FUCKING L
You are delusional. There is nothing hype about Berserk even with the boat party coming to an end. The writing is still lousy, the plot is still charging along at a snail's pace, and you and I both know that all it takes is another idolmaster game to say goodbye to this shit manga for another year+.
I don't understand peoples' emotional attachment to this subpar schlock.
>>341061536
>It never broke though.
The one Godo gave him before he found Dragonslayer in the shack.
>Golden Age
>best
tip top kek
>>341061536
Didn't the dragonslayer get cracked at some point? Not completely broken, but just cracked and damaged.
I remember Guts going back to the blacksmith guy at some point to get it fixed, which is where he runs into the little apprentice dude as well as griffithXzodd
>>341060243
There are a lot mangus with art that is just as good or better than Berserk yet their releases are a hundred times more frequent than Berserk.
>>341061663
>is literary storytelling through imagery
>more detail in imagery is redundant
It's like you're actually retarded.
If the artist wants them there they're not redundant.
Why do you think you're more informed about these things that the guy that writes the manga?
Stop posting your pretentious cunt.
>>341062204
But Dragon Slayer is the power up, retard.
Miura even added a power up to the power up with the "you have killed so many apostles with the sword and now it can even damage gods" bullshit.
>>341061663
>background details
>redundant
holy shit no wonder /a/ likes harems and school life anime so much if you are this brain damaged
>>341062283
Name 10
>>341063201
>Reading comprehension
I never even mentioned the power up, which I agree is a thing.
>>341061536
>his sword never broke
His golden age sword broke twice, he has a magic one now though. so I don't think he'll have to worry about that again.
>he can't die because of plot
like every single battle, all the characters and he's becoming less human with every use. The main plot point of berserk armor over the recent battles, is next time he may never break out of the trance and go full berserker mode forever.
We had like 10 threads yesterday fuck off.
>>341056384
A good game
>>341063139
>artist
He's not an artist, mate, he's an author/illustrator. There's an inherent difference, mainly the word "art" which is unrelated to this entire discussion.
It's also something I'm entirely informed about, being a career "artist".
If the medium requires the story to be told via imagery, but the imagery detracts both from the narrative itself but also the serialisation of the narrative how is it anything other than redundant? Like, it's surface level clear as day obvious.
He clearly wants to go for the classic, early 90s fantasy schtick, but he can pull that off even better by using washes instead of meticulous detail. That covers his need for backgrounds without forcing pointless details that distract from the subject of the panel anyway.
God, why do you demand to be spoonfed? Stop ranting about topics you don't understand, mate.
>>341063663
>/a/
I'm my own person, friend. A background exists only to set a scene or to include a small detail to is story relevant. If there's nothing of significance in the background then there's no reason to fill it up with meticulous details. It's really straight forward.
The guys is clearly really into drawing, but it's counter-intuitive to fill every panel with super-details. He's supposed to be telling a story, not submitting a portfolio for an undergraduate degree.
>>341038471
HOLY FUCK! IM HYPE!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gV26zIE0130
>>341038471
Because I already fapped to tentacle rape this morning and so there's nothing to talk about else.
>>341065480
>God, why do you demand to be spoonfed
Because the things you're saying are completely wrong in nearly every way?
>top ranting about topics you don't understand, mate.
Dog you must have failed the art courses you took, or more likely completely misudnerstood what you where taught.
>>341065480
>He's not an artist, mate, he's an author/illustrator. There's an inherent difference, mainly the word "art" which is unrelated to this entire discussion.
What the hell? How does being an author/illustrator exclude him from the word "art"? I am not saying his works are art, but what you said is just bullshit.
>>341065480
>He's not an artist, mate, he's an author/illustrator.
You don't get to make up definitions to fit your arguments, he's by definition an artist.
>It's also something I'm entirely informed about, being a career "artist".
I'm sure you are.
>If the medium requires the story to be told via imagery, but the imagery detracts both from the narrative itself but also the serialisation of the narrative how is it anything other than redundant? Like, it's surface level clear as day obvious.
How does it detract from the narrative when the main themes are isolation, causality and humanity's place in the grand scheme of things? The detailed and grand setpieces only add to that.
>God, why do you demand to be spoonfed? Stop ranting about topics you don't understand, mate.
Pot to kettle, etc.
>>341039874
nothing will be wong
>>341040007
>not conviction
heh
>>341068775
Lost Children and Rebirth are chapters from the Conviction arc
>>341063904
not him but
>>341062283
Like Vinland Saga. Or if you want some ultra-edgy medieval storytime, Wolfsmund.
>>341067324
You're an idiot mate, a complete and utter idiot.
Meticulous detail in an image supposed to present a paragraph's worth of information is like writing a paragraph, but making it 4 pages long to fit all the thousands of adjectives you decided to include to make sure people know that the green tree was tall, as were the surround 9,877 trees which stood slightly bent when compared to the 85,026 trees on the hill opposite, whose foliage stood against the setting sun [...]
Like you are a complete kibitzer.
>>341067714
And illustrator is an illustrator, an author is an author. They are not the same thing as an 'artist", otherwise "artist" wouldn't even be a word". That was a stupid question, mate. Theoretically a person can be all three, but the term 'art' does not even belong in this discussion and what I said isn't bullshit because, unlike those arseholes spouting shite at me, I actually know what I'm on about.
>>341068089
Why would I even bother responding to someone who disputes me and then asks questions I've already answered in my previous statements that you have disputed?
Like, come on.
If you don't understand visual storytelling then don't discuss it as if you know what you''re talking about.
Obviously, when setting a scene it's cool to have a big, detailed spread to show the area, but sticking details that are completely irrelevant to the story in the backgrounds of every panel is counter-intuitive. Furthermore, they distract from the subject and the weight of their actions per panel, since the subject isn't highlighted, they're lost in a see of minor details.
Again, the stupidly meticulous illustrations slow down production and (partially) lead to the whole thing going on massive breaks, which in turn stunts the story since it's natural flow had been disturbed.
I've explained that a good 6 or 7 times now in more ways than anyone should ever need something explained to them.
And again, I like Berserk and am hyped for the game.
>>341043740
well then you should know that they don't mix well
>>341062071
Because it's good, that's why.
>>341070398
Wolfsmund is garbage though.
Vinland Saga is really fud tthough, yeah.
>>341070436
>kibitzer
>Yiddish term for a person who offers (often unwanted) advice or commentary
Damn, just like you "King of of all things visual story telling, knowing better than the sole creator"
>>341042607
Who is Shierke? And what is magic? Also, did you forget that they are now on an entire island of Shierkes, I'll bet they'll see land in no time once they convince them their not the enemy.
>>341046984
YAAMEROOOOO!!!
>>341071254
well you read Wolfsmund if you want all the edge of Berserk on a somewhat regular release schedule.
Vinland Saga actually matured since its inception, evolving beyond Shounen-shit into something interesting and novel, and its clear the author loves Scandinavia and Viking culture, and it's a billion times better than the garbage Berserk has devolved into.
>>341047304
Watch the old ass anime, then the movies. you should pick up the manga after that since the anime shows like 15% of all berserk
>>341070436
>Why would I even bother responding to someone who disputes me and then asks questions I've already answered in my previous statements that you have disputed?
You answered fuck all.
>If you don't understand visual storytelling then don't discuss it as if you know what you''re talking about.
By your '''''arguments''''' it's obvious you're a clear expert.
>sticking details that are completely irrelevant to the story in the backgrounds of every panel is counter-intuitive. Furthermore, they distract from the subject and the weight of their actions per panel, since the subject isn't highlighted, they're lost in a see of minor details.
I already said why they aren't irrelevant, maybe you should learn how to read.
You're a complete and utter moron acting like you're knowledgeable.
>>341070398
>good art
>that
>>341071265
>Makes point
>gets called a faggot
>elaborates on the points
>no proper counter-argument is given but dickhead is still typing inflammatory things
>tell someone they are an idiot and should stop trying to discuss things because they don't understand the topic.
Mate, if you want to make an actual point, go ahead, but since it's clear that you don't understand the topic and that you can't argue the points I made at all then maybe it's time for you to quietly leave and stop shitposting nonsense and insults purely because you like to be offended by intelligent commentary.
I never called myself a super genius either, I criticised a man and his ridiculous approach to a manga that has very clearly been going through production issues for over a decade.
>>341072316
>ironic shitpost
Alright, Burger Johnson, maybe you should take some reading comprehension classes and some writing classes while you're at it.
>>341063904
Anything by Ryoichi Ikegami
Anything by Morita Masanori
Onepunch man
Somali and the Forest Spirit
Shamo
Real
Vagabond
Me and the Devil Blues
Innocent
Vinland Saga
Satsuma Gishiden
>>341042753
welcome to the juden dystopia
>>341057961
>muh deep
I'm there for tiddies, and gore
yeah cry edgy all you want. edgy is cool
>>341073059
Your criticisms of berzerk's paneling aren't even true. "Detailed" doesn't necessarily mean "Busy" and you know it faggot.
>>341073537
>Onepunch man
Post discarded
>>341073059
>Alright, Burger Johnson, maybe you should take some reading comprehension classes and some writing classes while you're at it.
I'm sure loving those amazing argumentative capabilities, pal. Each post you make I find it hard to believe someone could actually be this retarded.
>>341038471
In 5 or six months this game will cost 100 yens in Japan. The amount of musoushit in that country is overwelming.
>>341060571
people criticising the revenge theme because it's stale nowadays tend to forget how old berserk is anayways
I mean what do you want to talk about? How triggered sjws are from the trailer? Need more info to go off of.
This is not real life
I repeat, this is NOT real life
This is Berserk """""""art"""""""
>>341073919
Yeah they are. A detail that is irrelevant to the plot in a panel that acts as basic story progression is time consuming and often distracts from the actions of the subject. Especially in the fight scenes, where meticulous backgrounds are even more stupid since, in a fight, why would you be looking off into the distance? Why would you be looking over there? It's over here! Stop looking over there! In cosy parts where you might look over there, sure, but when there's a story being told you don't go looking at the squirrel over yonder.
>>341074285
Mate, I made my argument loads of times already, you can join the "lets keep asking the same question again boys" if you like, but it doesn't mean that I haven't already typed it out. I'm not going to scroll up on your behalf just because your fingers are too fat to work the mouse wheel.
>>341074701
> How triggered sjws are from the trailer?
Aren't they happy with Battlefield 1? in that game 99% of the german army is black
>>341065480
wow you're writing those paragraphs just to discredit a Japanese comic. autism
>>341044242
Berserk is about horrible things happening to people and taboo subject matter. Rape is clearly a huge taboo. Berserk is now associated with taboos.
They accomplished exactly what they wanted to, and now hypersensitive nerds are spazzing out. It's wonderful.
>>341075292
Mate, I'm a critic by trade and I do this automatically, it's effortless. Plus, I'm waiting for my dinner so I've got some spare time to gauge the decreasing general intelligence of /v/.
If your best shot is trying to diagnose mental illnesses to strangers than I suggest you stop posting.
>>341075181
Then don't go looking at the squirrel over yonder. You are straight up advocating for blank panels behind the characters. That's as visually uninteresting as it gets.
>>341075337
>Rape is clearly a huge taboo
>That's what normies actually believe
lol
Literally 90% of seinen maga feature rape and other types of """taboos""".
>>341075181
>Mate, I made my argument loads of times
And I already countered your argument here >>341068089
But yeah, keep stating your arguments are correct without addressing actual points that counter them, you utter imbecile.
nobody gives a fuck about your shitty chinese game just like nobody gave a fuck about shenmue
>>341061663
>>341065480
>>341070436
>>341073059
there's to much work put into this to be bait so you're probably serious.
I don't usually mean it but this time I can only hope you follow my decent advice
kill yourself.
>>341044242
this game isn't for them
>>341076105
holy shit this can't be real.
never stop, I'm actually laughing
>>341076105
If you're a critic, you are terrible at your job. Literally nobody would ever follow the advice "Don't draw a background, it's distracting"
>>341038471
>trailer literally advocates for rape
"""No"""
>>341077634
>depiction is advocation
>>341077634
you said or implied rape therefore you have also advocated for it
fucking rapist
>>341076642
You didn't, you wrote some random themes in a list and implied everything ever drawn in a chapter of berserk displays those things. Like, how those loads of detail express loneliness? That's nonsense, jog on.
>>341076978
Here mate, the only thing I'm killing is the shitposters on /v/ with my good posts.
>>341077463
:^)
My dinner's done, so I might not be back after this post
>>341077545
That's not what I wrote, American Male: Steve Gravy. If you learned to read you'd know that.
>>341078125
yes go eat your tendies retard
>>341044242
>but imagine someone who doesn't know anything about Berserk
Imagine someone that doesn't know anything about Berserk buying a Berserk Musou.
>>341078125
No, you wrote "Don't add detail, it's distracting and time consuming" as if a reader has to take in every individual cross hatch on a stone background before they move on. No competent artist leaves the background minimalist, it's completely boring.
>>341076105
>I'm a critic by trade
That's a nice way of saying 'failed artist'. Nevertheless, your amazing skills as critic are surely well spent nitpicking a japanese manga on a taiwanese knitting board.
>>341065480
>He's not an artist, mate, he's an author/illustrator
Kill yourself.
>>341078125
>you wrote some random themes in a list
If you actually read the manga and weren't a blabbering retard you would know those themes are present and well defined.
>how those loads of detail express loneliness?
Again, learn to read.
>>341038824
>has a much more solid combat system
No, it doesn't, actually.
You need to continue longer combos to get to attacks that offer different combat effects or more damage, whereas the old DW system allowed you to choose the specific attack type you wanted.
2nd charge attack was a stun move, 1st was always a launcher good for duels, 3rd was a group clear for crowds, as a general rule for all characters, meaning you did not need indepth knowledge of a character to be functional with them off the bat.
>>341038824
>too easy
Stop playing on easy, then?
>there are people on this very board that right now that are upset and bothered by the fact that a trailer for a BERSERK GAME contained a reference to rape
>>341058515
Robin only get's raped by Spandam once but Berserk has it a lot of times
>>341040431
Yes. Every single night, Guts has to deals with his own little supernatural musou battle.
>>341042365
That doesn't change how his daily life literally included Musou type situations.
>>341080068
the only thing I'm butt blasted about is no gameplay trailer
>>341040917
>, it's an original story incorporating some lovecraftian themes.
Actually, it's the Dream-Quest of Unknown Kadath. All the broad strokes of that story are there.
>>341038471
Tentacles, huh
>/v/ermins like berserk
It's no surprise that the shittiest 4chan board likes a shitty manga......
>>341041372
I've always wondered, is it a reference tothe first time Guts dueled Griffith?
>>341080893
READ
THE
MANGA
>>341081000
>/a/utists in charge of taste
>>341081000
I'll bite. What do you consider to be a good manga, smug anime girl?
>>341081000
Go back to your moeshit you pathetic shitter
>>341081000
wow she's got a large forehead
>>341078417
What the fuck is a tendie? Are you a baby or do Americans exclusively eat characters from Disney shows?
>>341078605
No I didn't, I wrote "unnecessary detail is unnecessary; there's a time and a place for details and it's not every single panel".
>artist
Don't use random, irrelevant words, mate.
>>341078676
What? I'm actually a fairly successful "artist" and a rather dubious critic, but none of that matters at all, just like your entire existence.
>>341079275
Nah, I'll continue being right, thanks.
>>341079352
I do read the manga... As much as it can be read since it only gets released once per millenium. And I already discredited one of your themes fairly effectively, so maybe you should stop.
You guys literally are complete idiots, Jesus fuck.
>>341081953
Blaster Knuckle
>>341082279
oh your one of them self hating artists huh. no wonder you think the way you do.
>>341082279
>there's a time and a place for detail and it's not every panel
But he doesn't go full retard every panel. Most of the time it's just a nicely finished background.
>>341082279
>And I already discredited one of your themes fairly effectively, so maybe you should stop.
How so?
>>341082279
Why are you such a faggot dude?
>>341083807
He's a first year college student who just got into his art major and wants to prove he didn't make a poor life decision.
>>341082279
>What? I'm actually a fairly successful "artist" and a rather dubious critic, but none of that matters at all, just like your entire existence.
Hit a nerve uh?
What kind of "artist" are you that's so ignorant about art?
>>341071254
>Wolfsmund is garbage though.
Nice arguments.
>>341082279
Perspective really just baffles me sometimes.
People can be so unflappably sure of themselves and be so incredibly wrong at the same time.
>>341084072
Ah, thanks. It was really bothering me. The better question is why he feels the need to take it out on Berserk and everybody else.
>>341082732
What? No, I'm really into myself, obviously. Have you not read my posts?
>>341082910
He does it way too often though. Like, you're all going way too apeshit over a minor complaint. You do realise that, right?
>>341083546
Please learn to read
>>341083807
I'm a heterosexual male, actually. Please post about how this hurts your feelings on tumblr, thanks.
>>341084072
>Art major
Again, I don't understand your American bullshit. I'm actually a practicing artist, so you know. It's really not worth mentioning in this debate though. I hear your advanced basement dwelling classes are being put to good use, though.
>>341084094
Nah, you really didn't. I was just responding to you out of politeness, just like I am now. I'm loving the bants too, to be honest.Plus, I'm literally the only person in the discussion who knows anything about "art" and again, "art" is not even related to the discussion.
>>341084256
Yeah, it's weird how wrong all these dorks are, right?
>>341085073
>minor complaint
>this manga is garbage because X
>minor
And really, you know nothing about art.
>>341043053
>Using Doge speak still
That's the real cancer here
>>341085368
>this manga is garbage because x
I literally wrote "he puts too much detail in it sometimes and it's fucked everything up a bit" while expressing interest in a game on a video games board, you illiterate faggot. I also noted that I like Berserk and read it, again you illiterate faggot. Maybe if you and that gaggle of random response writers were to actually read a post and not decide to be angry about nothing and argue points they don't understand this website wouldn't be such a cancer shitshack
>you know nothing about art
I obviously do, mate.
>>341082360
You should honestly kill yourself even fucking Naruto would be a better choice.
>>341081000
Says the fag whose board has bidiurnal berserk threads
>>341086495
>>341058556
>this is garbage because
Also
>i'm an artist, therefore I know about art
Plenty of artists are inept, and you definitely seem to be. Especially considering you almost definitely don't work in any sort of comic or graphic novel industry.
>>341087191
>unsolicited opnions
>>341087009
Blaster Knuckle has the best MC in manga not only that the villains are all top tier, the atmosphere is top tier and the plot is a master piece
>>341087397
>he says having spent all thread giving his unsolicited opinions
Fag.
>>341085073
>Plus, I'm literally the only person in the discussion who knows anything about "art"
You're obviously pretty ignorant and pretentious to boost. But that's alright, we can't all know it all.
>>341085073
Haha yeah bro everyone knows "art" can only be done on a canvas with a paintbrush. Illustrations aren't "art", illustrators aren't artists, and backgrounds are a waste of time. I have learned a lot from you sempai. Please continue to spread your wisdom.
>>341087571
Even Resort Boin is better than Blaster Knuckle.
Why every Berserk related thread has so much Gutsposting? He's the villain of the story and a piece of shit why no one likes the main character Griffith?
>>341087590
What? I responded to someone calling drawing art and saying those same drawings are more often than not the problem with Berserk and why it's been on life support for years. If you could read you'd know that.
I was then attacked by swines and just responded for lols, as I am doing now.
>>341087859
Nah, you're just silly
>>341087878
Never said that, you dilettante. A drawing isn't art it's a drawing, just as a painting is a painting. You know, words mean what they mean.
Art, the noun, the field, the practice, involves conveying an idea in such a way that it couldn't be otherwise. Essentially, to put it briefly. It's well known. Thanks for the question, please refrain from asking any more.
>>341088187
Because villains are often more interesting than heroes
>>341087983
Different genres One is hentai and the other is a Realistic Seinen action Drama portraying the plights of Afro Americans after slavery
>>341077039
this
They shouldn't pander to an audience that isn't already invested in Berserk, they wouldn't care about it either way
>>341088607
Fuck me people like this still excist.
>>341088607
>What? I responded to someone calling drawing art and gave them my unsolicited opinions
>>341088607
You are a dilettante for assigning your own definition to art like a pretentious fool. I also never asked you a question, but you are welcome. Never speak to me or my son ever again.
>>341082279
>Nah, I'll continue being retarded, thanks.
ftfyyff
>>341089057
Fuck me, people who can't write full sentences still exist.
>>341089096
>not knowing that drawings are drawings
>>341089360
It's not my definition, it's literally the criteria what every single example of actual art ever has met. Sorry for being educated on the subject. Guess I'll pick up a sandwich and call it a science or call my legs flippers because that's the logic you work with.
>>341089435
>irony
>>341090307
>actual art
this is rich.
>>341090307
Who set the criteria? If you are educated on the subject you should be able to enlighten me on the topic as well. After all if you can't explain something to a 6 year old you don't understand it yourself.
I can't wait to kill this fucker Guts.
>>341090307
>unsolicited opinions
>>341090307
Nobody cares about you or your opinions you self important faggot.
>>341056384
The ps2 game wasn't a musou and recreated the essence of berserk perfectly.
I only played Pirate warriors and Hryule warriors, does the DW series have gore in it?
I can't imagine playing a Berserk Musou and not having blood spraying everywhere constantly
>>341091814
Hokuto Musou/ Fist of the North Star:Ken's Rage had some gore in it
>>341091814
They haven't, but given that trailer I think there's a good possibility it will be darker than your usual DW game.
>>341056384
Dark Souls?
Dragon's Dogma?
>>341090873
It's not, actually. Please list some examples on contemporary fine art to demonstrate your knowledge on the subject or fuck off and stop trying to talk about art, especially since this is a video games board.
>>341090982
I can't tell you the name of the man who invented the term, nor can anyone. that's like asking who first wrote "the". Go on, tell me. I could give you a 4 hour lecture, but you'd have to pay me 9grand so maybe you should go save up or just go read up on the subject. Most of it is actually shite and not remotely interesting, but there are some cool bits dotted around.
>>341091635
Mate, I'm being responded to, I didn't ask to have to defend myself. If no one cared they wouldn't be bothering me and you obviously care to. Not that I actually wrote anything worth mentioning to begin with, though. No idea why these knobs won't fuck off.
>>341091468
You responded to me, mate, that's literally soliciting an opinion. Not that I have any, to be fair. I don't share opinions because they are factually invalid and worthless when discussing anything besides ones' self.
>>341092793
>telling me to stop being a hypocrite is soliciting my opinion
>meanwhile he's pretending he's not giving nothing but opinions in a discussion on fucking art, possibly the least objective topic there is
>still giving out unsolicited opinions
>>341092793
>m8 mate mate m8 m8
You are such an insufferable tryhard. I wonder if you have any concept of how obnoxious you are.
Griffith was a hero.
>>341093553
>Griffith was a homo.
>>341093553
>was
Still is. He's currently Making Midland Great Again.
>people seriously pretend like they wouldn't have done exactly the same thing given the choices he had leading up to the Eclipse
>>341094057
AT LEAST HE DIDN'T GET BLACKED AND KEKED YOU FUCKING GUTS APOLOGIST
>>341093238
Here, Cornelius, if a word has a definition then it has a definite meaning. If a word does not have a meaning then it isn't a word. Art is not only a word but an entire classification, field and practice and is therefore defined and is therefore definite and is therefore belonging to an objective legacy of meaning what it means. Get your pseudo- post-structuralist meta-theories away from me and stop trying to discuss a topic you don't understand.
Like, if you want to discuss fine art please go learn about it somewhere and then try and find me years from now (I'd say a considerable amount of years seeing as how laughably stupid you are) you can try track me down and we can discuss Parreno and Huyghe or why Jeff Koons doesn't deserve the hate but it literally has nothing to do with the Berserk video game that was being discussed here and you know nothing about it so how about you fuck off?
>>341093358
No, I'm Irish. That's how we speak here. Slan leat, mo chara.
>>341094185
come on man there's no need to be mean he's just a sad boy
>>341094386
>he thinks you can assign objective value to art
>he thinks you can realistically define such a vague concept as "Art"
Oh I am laffin.
>>341094386
No, you don't have a concept of how obnoxious you are? Take it from me, you are just awful.
>>341094157
>people seriously pretend like they wouldn't have done exactly the same thing
>that argument again
It doesn't matter whether or not any of us would have done the same thing. It's still fucked up.
>>341094921
>value
>he thinks
What, you are just so mind-numbingly retarded it's actually beyond reprieve.
>>341094995
What does it matter how obnoxious you think things are? I'm defending myself as is how debates are performed. I am also the only person in the debate who has made any point, though I have been asked to make more and in every case I have made and explained these points. None of them have been properly contested and all of them stand. You might want to call the "let's say art a million times despite it being a word we don't understand" squad and bring them home because I assume it's about time they were tucked in, since it is a school night and all.
>>341096013
> I'm defending myself
Excessively, obnoxiously, and embarrassingly.
Go have a breakdown somewhere else, you're an eyesore.
>>341081038
I thought it was a reference to the time when Wyald caught Guts' sword with his teeth, showing that in this situation, Guts is the unstoppable monster.
>Console and handhelds only
why bother?
>>341096457
Actually, I'm doing it well and seeing as not a single one of your hivemind hermits has been able to actually contest anything I wrote, I imagine the part of it that bothers you is that your brain can't handle new information so you use your 4chan equivalent of the leddit downvote; the random dismissive post with no content, to try and win some bizarro moral victory when in reality, if you hadn't wrote random shitposts I wouldn't have anything to respond to you cancerous lech.
I like Berserk and enjoy video games.
>>341092747
Dark souls style berserk game would be just as shit as a musou.
>>341097127
You're cringeworthy as fuck m8 m8 m8.
>>341097192
kill yourself
>>341096013
>he doesn't believe in something as simple as value or quality
>but STILL thinks himself an artist
Laffin.
>>341097127
Your perception of yourself and others is narrow and unfounded. When you have matured more, mentally or spiritually, you will look back on these days fondly, or perhaps with regret, but you will look back on them wise enough to know your own folly.
>>341097094
It said steam too you mong
>>341097514
...m8
>>341098059
I have no idea why you like implying things that you imagined, but I hope you find a special doctor to fix you.
>>341098095
That's preposterous irony, pal. I just wanted to express my interest in a game and help someone not talk shite and I've been harassed. I'll look back on this and wonder why Berserk threads are entirely made up of dullards, but then I'll remember that Berserk is sort of like Bleach but with nipples and a fantasy aesthetic so it appeals to people who play Warcraft and I'll realise the sort of freaks I was trying to reason with.
>>341099362
>and I've been harassed
Jesus Christ
>>341096879
That makes sense as well.
>>341099362
>greentexts value
>doesn't understand that this conveys his disbelief in value as a concept
Guffaw.
>>341098059
Don't forget
>calls himself an "artist"
>says Kentaro fucking Miura isn't one
>>341100079
nah, you're completely pulling shit out of your ass and trying to convince me I did it.
>>341099943
It's a real travesty, I know
>>341100576
Kill yourself you crybaby.
>>341100576
>he doesn't even understand
Laff
>>341043528
>who jerks off to Schierke
I do.
its gonna be awesome
>>341101209
>fighting night terrors in the berzerk armor
>when he has the seal
>>341100786
Mate, I'm laughing. I've got uneducated fools ganging together, thinking they're super pals because they randomly decided to be upset at their favourite comic book being lightly criticised and a handful of them have gone ahead and decided that drawings are all magically art because they decided they were. It's hilarious.
>>341100878
There's nothing to understand, you picked a random word: value, and just started typing it as if it were in relation to anything. There's no discussion of art to begin with, let alone a specific work's value. You're literally inventing discussions.
>>341097269
sure bud, whatever you say.
>>341102119
Laughing while whining that you're being "harassed".
>>341101959
its the only way to unlock the guitar
>>341102119
>condemns post-structuralism
>the movement that challenged the assigning of value to skill
>doesn't understand why his opponent would talk about value
>doesn't understand the scope of his own argument
Lol
This is still the best news of E3, Berserk is not only the greatest comic book it's literally the greatest story ever told
>>341071237
>being fucking delusional
kys thanks
>>341043142
>white haired 14yo who is half demon half angel quarter autist and wants to kill God.
Except for killing God that's pretty much Griffith
>>341102335
Jesus, you're a fool mate.
>>341102558
I didn't condemn anything, I said it drop it because it's irrelevant. Post-structuralism isn't even really important besides lots of people liking Barthes because Semiotics is an easy concept to understand. Forgive me for assuming that an imageboard famous for reading about memetics would be full of people who moved onto the more effective theory for cultural understanding and evolution.
I never argued about it anyway, I just mentioned it as part of an inflammatory statement I made ages ago. So, what's your argument again? Because you're still just throwing random words at me.
How about you discuss the game and stop trying to "win".
>>341102587
More like
>White haired 16yr homo old boy who is half tactical genius half autist and wants to become king
>>341103521
You're the one crying about getting cyberbullied on 4chan.
>>341103521
>at this point he's given up on even trying to defend himself because he knows his own position is indefensible
>he still spent an entire thread trying to condemn one art form in favor of another
>he's still doing it
Ha
>>341103931
I'm literally just responding to responses. Again, if you were reading my posts you'd know that. Again you're the one crying about your favourite comics being criticised.
>>341104306
I have nothing to defend, I'm literally just swatting away shitposts and being polite to Americans for whom this is the most social interaction they'll have all year.
I'm a philanthropist, really.
>>341102587
I don't remember seeing Griffith fighting to unfitting j-rock in angered state and his enemy going
>n-nani?! He's speed is unmatched!
also Griffith did nothing wrong and is a hero
>>341104982
>STILL AT IT
I don't have any single-letter signifiers of a laugh so have a smug tree
>>341104982
>I just wanted to express my interest in a game and help someone not talk shite and I've been harassed
>I just wanted to express my interest in a game and help someone not talk shite and I've been harassed
>I just wanted to express my interest in a game and help someone not talk shite and I've been harassed
>I just wanted to express my interest in a game and help someone not talk shite and I've been harassed
>I just wanted to express my interest in a game and help someone not talk shite and I've been harassed
>Eclipse level
>this music kicks in
Anyone wants to sign my Petition to have Casca'sRape scenewritten out the Berserk canon?
>>341106610
>make post
>forget link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ew3--XVFioU
>>341106641
No, but I will sign a petition to add a Puck rape scene.
>>341105602
Thanks, I'll throw up a cool image in response.
>>341106014
Do you not understand the English language? There's this thing called hyperbole, you wouldn't believe it but it takes 1,000,000 years to master and allows you to sensationalise mundane events. It's 100 times more impressive than being El Autismo Phantastico and speaking with complete uninhibited and direct matter of fact sincerity.
>no details about a Western release other than a Steam logo
>this prancing faggot "artist" typing up 14 paragraph essays on how to be a buttblasted Irish landwhale m8
Kys
>>341107065
>I-I was just being hyperbolic!
>I wasn't really butthurt that people were making fun of me!
>>341060243
>>341062283
I really like the artwork but if the constant 2 page spreads are what's making his release schedule slow to such a fucking crawl he should stop doing so many
>>341107509
Exactly, but without the stuttering. Maybe your subterranean life has denied you such luxuries, but upon on land we have these things called "conversations" and they're generally agreeable. Also, it's impossible to be offended as an Irishman and an "artist". It just isn't possible, like... How would you even do it? I just slag people all day long and they slag me back and then we laugh heartily. You Americans are a dreadful bunch, cheer up and also learn to read. And somehow find someone competent to vote for.
Please remain hyped for the Berserk game, but also try to maybe not enter discussion with so much self-assurance when you have no idea what you're on about... It's just a weird thing to do. It's probably why you have no friends.
>>341052103
>endless repetition and grind
This describes most games tho.
>>341065480
How can you claim he's not an artist when the very concept and definition of "art" is so abstract that it varies from person to person.
If someone can take a shit and call it "art" then any literature, illustration, music, movie, and video game can be called art (keyword is can). Especially video games because they encompass multiple mediums.
>>341108592
>literally "I was pretending to be retarded"
How many people need to tell you to kill yourself before you realize that no one likes you?
What musou games do you faggots recommend?
>>341109137
Honestly, I'd claim that no one is an artist although, since we all love titles so much people who often-times work in pursuit of creating art need to be accredited the title. That was a wanky way of writing that, I know. But, whatever, I'm not fixing it.
Erm, he's an illustrator and a storyteller, author, but I wouldn't call his produce "art" since it's literally just a typical shounen in a fantasy setting aimed at an older audience. There's no artistic merit to it. He's a fine illustrator and at least was a good storyteller. And I like his work, but it's not "art" it's manga. Hence them being different words. It's not really worth the time to go any further with that though.
The shit, do you mean the guy who shat in the cans? Because that's a really good piece. He also made an upsidedown pedastal to present the earth. What a man... It's a bit hokey though, it's not exactly the top notch best stuff, but it does meet the criteria of an artwork.
A medium doesn't auto-qualify produce as art, though any medium can be used to produce art. There's a super famous, I wanna say English, guy who goes on walks. He's an acclaimed "artist" for his walks... Not all walks are works of art... You get me?
That doesn't mean my walk earlier today with my dog was a bad walk, it just wasn't a work of art. Berserk is a manga, it's an alright one that's sort of tumbling around aimlessly at the moment, but it's been good in the past and might be good again in the future. But that's what it is, it's not something else.
>>341109354
Like, seriously, just stop. Just grow up. You're not contributing to anything.
>>341110714
>You're not contributing to anything.
Not like you, right? You're basically the messiah of Berserk threads. What would we do without you here to inject your opinions on art???
>>341110714
>still trying to assign value to art
>>341111536
What? you're asking me questions for no reason. Please go wipe your wife's sons ass or something.
>>341111784
>value
Again, no. There's no value being assigned. There's criteria that must be met to qualify as an artwork. It's like if you have a VHS tape. It's not a DVD, even though it also contains video. You can try to jam it in the dvd player but that would be stupid. It's not complicated.
So, who do you like in Berserk? I like whatserface. Is if Farnase or something? I can't remember since it's been an eternity since there's been a chapter, but her... She's my fave, personally. How about you boys?
Griffith and Serpico are also good picks.
>>341038471
>Edgy anime ripoff gets all the cool stuff
>We'll never get a good game of the real deal
This life is pain
>>341112824
>art has some kind of objective existence apart from creative endeavor
>he thinks he's not assigning value even as he elevates "Art" and looks down upon "Not-art"
>>341113103
Berserk was inspired by western movies but Conan is not one of it's inspirations.
>>341112824
Your opinions are moronic and nobody cares about them. You are a self-absorbed, pretentious faggot that should kill himself.
>>341113103
Conan is edgy to begin with.
I really don't like Berserk
It's way too edgy, tryhard and over the top in a bad way.
But I'm actually a tiny bit hyped for the game, because it will most likely consist alot blood and gore, something I loved in bloodborne and some older games.
>>341113905
There's no looking up or down at anything, there's just things that are or aren't and I have given loads of proper, in-depth explanations already as well as there being countless texts on the subject. So unless you're going to actually stop shitposting, please just go away.
>>341114097
I don't have any opinions besides my fave Berserk character thus far, so are you upset because you prefer Caska?
>>341094185
>KEKED
why do you think he raped casca? why do you think he decided to go for the sacrifice? she cucked him hard by turning guts straight while he was in the dungeon. if you look at it from a psychological perspective, griffith was by proxy having sex with guts when he raped her. taking away what she stole from him
>>341038471
It better have music by Susumu Hirasawa. At least the main theme, god damn it.
>>341112824
How can one man be this autistic? Wasting his time to try and show up some random dudes. why not do some "art" or something?
i-it's okay at least we have pachinko
>>341113937
>>341114595
fuck off weebs
>>341114795
kill yourself
>>341114795
>he thinks he ever even made a point to separate art and "Not art" rather than just seemingly arbitrarily picking and choosing while comparing the difference to something tangible like the difference between DVD and VHS
>he hasn't put forth the criteria
>he is just choking on the cock of authors who themselves fell to gravel in the wake of post-modernism's destruction of the artistic schools and rigors
>>341102119
So this...is the power of /v/...
>>341116057
Let's not be generous, he is most likely a Redditor.
HEY GUYS I'M GUTS
I GOT BLACKED
I GOT KEKED
AND GRIFFITH IS BETTER THAN ME
>>341114731
This is bait
>>341116421
Fuck off Zod
>>341115419
>calling people weebs on 4chan
>>341113103
>Edgy anime ripoff gets all the cool stuff
But the anime looks like fucking shit
>>341115229
>autistic
Nice irony, friend.
>show up other dudes
it's literally the other way around, I'm just enjoying the ride
>do some "art"
You don't just "do" "art", you know?
>>341115438
Like, why are you still doing this? And if you really feel the need to shitpost, at least put a little flavour on it. Jeez.
>>341115964
>he greentexts and never makes a point
>he tries to make it a discussion about art and later post-structuralism
>he is told to drop it
>he tries to dismiss everything with more greetexts
>tries to discredit someone who hasn't cited random philosophy shit be claiming they have having previously tried to spam post-structuralist garbage
Hue
>>341116057
It's not.. /v/ can't even handle this, to be fair.
Can we talk about Berserk now? Please?
>>341114731
Yeah, I'm hoping it's sort of like DMC/Bayonetta, I'd be totally on board for that.
>>341110714
I would rather watch you and your dog then some "walk artist".
The way you bring yourself down is pretty funny, because in the next sentence you're all pretentious.
Alright m8, I got your cure, go get a tab of lsd on the darknet, go take a walk with your dog again, and come back.
"They're illustrations!"
Will turn into some newfound appreciation of all art forms.
>>341117059
kill yourself
I don't mind it being a musou, what I mind is it being a fucking vita port again which means it's going to be held back to hell.
>>341117387
nah. theyll just reduce the amount of enemies that appear on screen at any given moment like the 3ds version of hyrule warriors
>>341117059
>he thinks he can handwave his vacuous and substanceless argument by pretending only nerds provide examples to back up their assertions that aren't analogies to non-analogous situations
>he thinks he's made a single point this entire time
>he still separates art from creative endeavor
>he thinks I'm making my own points and not just intent on fucking up his
>>341040270
WHAT THE FUCK IS A MUSUO
>>341117171
There's no such thing as an art form and you should know better than to start me off by responding about that.
I'd rather watch my dog than the walk man too, but that's neither here nor there. His stuff makes sense, it's lame as fuck, but it's definitely "art".
Like, I know about this... Please don't think you're shitposting experience somehow allows you extra knowledge powers. Parreno is cool, if you want to look someone currently active up. You'll find more cool guys from looking into his "AnnLee" thing. It's also very much related to the anime industry, so you might dig it, since you're in this thread. That's a top tip, hopefully it gets you out of my hair and educates you at the same time.
>>341117983
Literally not reading this, go learn about the topic before bothering me again.
>>341118092
Dynasty Warriors et al.
So, it'll end up being Berserk Warriors, essentially.
>>341118243
>he thinks he can dismiss me with a pithy "Educate yourself" when it is obvious that he, himself, knows nothing about his own purported craft or the philosophies therein.
>>341118243
kill yourself
>>341117059
>took a bath
>ate dinner
>this autist is still going at it
>>341118696
>accessories unrelated to art that think themselves belonging to it are part of it
Like, you're trying to bait me but in reality you're being baited by me.. It's strange what you think you're doing. You're really just very sad.
I'm quite happy, though.
>>341118971
I definitely will... In fact, I just did. Thanks for the tip.
>>341119276
kill yourself
>>341119276
>doesn't even think philosophy is important to art
Ah, I'm done. That was a good fuck baby.
>>341119169
>autist
I'm actually just having more fun doing this than playing Ace Attorney.
When they stop responding I'll stop posting.
I'll throw in an image so that anyone annoyed by this shitty "discussion" can at least grab a few choice pics.
>>341119648
It really isn't, like. Philosphy is important with regard to specific things that specifically deal with specific philosophies, but philosophy as a whole does not intersect with art as a whole. That's a completely ludicrous statement. It's obvious you're studying the humanities and think the four books you read books about are gospels of life, but that's just not the way it works.
I don't understand how the same people who call Berserk edgy can watch Tokyo Ghoul or Attack on Titan.
You guys know that the PC version is gonna be a port of the vita version, right? It won't be a port from the next gen consoles, it never is
>>341120295
kill yourself
