So which is better?
>>341025651
TF2 in its heyday, Overwatch currently
TF2. Overwatch is fun though, especially if you play with others.
Overwatch has more depth but TF2 feels slightly better
TF2 is pretty far ahead of Overwatch
>>341025802
This
>>341025864
>Overwatch has more depth
Can you elaborate?
I still find TF2 better. Overwatch is fun and TF2 right now is filled with retards so its hard to have fun in Tf2 these days.
But if Tf2 still had some good servers then id probably be playing that more.
>>341025651
Most people here would be completely burned out on TF2 right now. It's well past its glory days. There will never be anything quite as relaxing as going on a 24/7 2fort server and plowing bad players, though.
TF2 is a much better game in its current state. It offers loads more of good content and is completely free, and has never had to deal with the weight of being comp focused. Bonus points for less cancerous community
Currently, Overwatch.
Team Fortress 2 could've been balanced better so that you actually have to focus on working as a team instead of being a one-man-army scout/soldier, but it's not like anyone cares about the balance and gameplay anymore.
Team Fortress 2 was a better game at its prime, but that time has past.
>>341025952
pure hero counter picking
role based counter picking
ult timing, negation and use
>>341026150
Le switch to stronger character constantly is not depth, it's shitty RPS mechanics. Ult timing is already present in TF2 in the form of Ubercharge, and when viable, Solly backpacks and such class equips.
>>341025651
TF2
Better movement, awesome competetive community (teamfortress.tv), shitload of maps, mods, high skill ceiling, free.
Also 6v6 matchmaking, weapon rebalances and optimization in the upcoming update.
>>341026278
i dont really want to get into a long winded argument
the meta is still half baked and has more variety and nuance than TF2
>>341025651
Both are party games, But my preference is towards TF2
Overwatch is flavor of the month, Ill always find myself returning to TF2 at some point.
>>341025651
For me it's Overwatch, but that's because it's the new game with lots of undiscovered content.
I've played TF2 so much, that I've became bored with it.
>>341025864
>Overwatch has more depth
nani?
>>341025651
tf2 doesn't have
- only 12 bad maps with chokepoint,
- no mods supports,
- no mapping supports,
- shitty gigantic hitbox,
- 20 tickrate,
- no server browser,
- 6vs6 only,
- cringy writing and voice acting,
-sjw community with mass report in the chat if you call someone a fag on pub
-terrible balance
-artificial 50% winrate limit
and still, tf2 is the f2p one
fuck blizzard.
>>341026885
all bullshit points
>>341027584
- only 12 bad maps with chokepoint,
true
- no mods supports,
true
- no mapping supports,
true
- shitty gigantic hitbox,
true
- 20 tickrate,
kinda true
- no server browser,
true
- 6vs6 only,
true
- cringy writing and voice acting,
true
-sjw community with mass report in the chat if you call someone a fag on pub
irrelevant
-terrible balance
true
-artificial 50% winrate limit
true
>>341026456
>I don't want to provide arguments because I know I'm wrong
Glad you understand.
>tfw
>infinite ammo
>No weapon variety
>Shitty counterpick system
>50/50 winrate
>Sniper for babbys
>20 tickrate
and alot of other shit some other anons been complaining about
my biggest question.. is WHY THE FUCK Inifinite ammo? like seriously blizzard.
they could of made the game with ammo, put some support heroes with some kind of ''ammo box/dispenser'' and would make the game less much of a casual shitfest
>>341025651
This
>>341025651
I can jump into OW, get into a MM game in less than 10 seconds, play with decent players of the same skill as mine, and have fun without shitlords sperging out
Every time I try to play TF2, I have to search for at least 10 minutes for an active non-valve server that's not plagued with bronies and autists, automatically get put on the team filled with F2P children, and lose horribly while an army of neon green scunts unleash 10 different Strange effect taunts after every kill.
TF2 feels better to play and is a better spectator sport. OW is very fun, but the Widowmaker-centric metagame makes watching it a fucking chore. If I wanted to watch and play a competitive format where it revolves around a sniper, I would go back to TF2 Highlander.
>>341029285
Play pugs or get in a league if you really don't want to play on Valve servers.
>>341026150
Overwatch has more breadth, but like a MoBA, that's where most of its complexity is, because there isn't much depth.
>>341025651
anything's an improvement over meme fortress jew
>>341025651
TF2. But TF2 has been tweaked for like 8 years. Lots of people here don't remember a time before air-blasts, ammo filling cloak, etc.
Overwatch is good. but it still needs work done on it to be better than TF2. Also I refuse to consider it better than TF2 until it adds an actual server browser and mode support. I'm not saying it needs it. But if you want me to compare it to a competent shooter that has all that and is like a decade old then it needs that to be considered better.
>>341025651
>it's another one of those threads
we've discussed this to death, and everyone agreed TF2 is miles ahead
only people who would disagree are literal blizzcucks and FOTM sheep casuals flocking to it as their first fps
le waifus and cartoon stereotypes vs racial stereotypes that are actually funny
one is better than the other
>a 9 year old game still holds up against a multi-million dollar game with tons of marketing
This tells a lot about TF2 and OW.
>>341032335
>reigns
>TF2 was seen as a joke by competitive fps players on it's release
>now that it's gotten old and fell down in popularity it "has depth and feels better"
never change /v/
>>341025651
sage.
TF2:
>free
>higher skill ceiling through physics/mechanics https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j7jelqvvzxE
>better dialogue and writing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzZ6GrRTgrM
>minimal visual clutter by design (eg- Spy's face mask indicating his disguise to allies)
>lots and lots of content and customization available
>highly moddable, level editor, lots of options
>many dedicated and community servers
>many balanced maps on offer
>dated graphics and performance
>Pyro and Spy are underpowered in serious play
Overhyped:
>40 dollarydoos
>lower skill ceiling, very few heroes that are in any complex or difficult to play at their highest potential
>uninspired dialogue and writing: "die, die, die"
>only content/customization available at this point is stock maps and LoL-tier skins
>unmoddable, no level editor, few options
>no dedicated servers, 20tick servers
>all maps are flawed in design and contain single chokes such as Temple of Anubis
>fresh graphics and performance
>it's hard to pin down a "Worst" character on the Overcrotch roster
The only factual advantages Overwatch has over TF2 are graphics and competitive class balance. In every other area - cost, skill, dialogue, readability, content, customization, moddability, map design- TF2 is the better game.
Additionally, TF2's daily player count did not change with the release of Overwatch, and it retained its position as the third most played game on Steam. Check if you don't believe me.
You can stop arguing now. /thread
>>341032801
retard
>>341029285
Just play Valve servers, you whiner. They're perfectly fine.
>>341032962
/mlp/ is the containment board for TF2 players degenerate.
>>341033106
this doesn't even deserve a reply
>>341032903
>the only factual advantages are the only things that matter in the whole wall of text
ITT: analravaged bronies raging that their hat-trading simulator full of brazilians is now irrelevant
>>341032335
>It's treason then
>>341025651
Tf2. It makes me angerier.
>spies
>having your hard built turret blown up by a beggars bazooka
>Scottish revolution
>Backburners
both are fun games i enjoy a lot. there is space in the world for both of them.
>>341025952
>TF2 meta
2SCOUT2SOLDIER1DEMO1MEDIC
AIRSHOT AIRSHOT AIRSHOT UBER IN AIRSHOT
>Overwatch meta
>map-based picks
>side-based picks
>counterpicking
>>341025651
overwatch is the better game but tf2 is better if you play alone.
>>341033336
>good maps don't matter
>skill ceiling doesn't matter
>being able to see what's going on doesn't matter
>having good servers doesn't matter
>graphics somehow matters more than all these things
Are you fucking serious?
Fuck off, astroturfing Blizzshill. You're not going to tempt players away from TF2 with your flavour-of-the-month game, the numbers and the many previous """tf2 killers" have already shown that.
tf2 if you actually want to play a FPS with DM
OW if you want to play rock paper scissors with abilities
>>341026012
who is this qt
>>341034559
>overwatch is the better game
in what areas exactly?
Its chokey, sightline-filled maps?
Characters like McCree and Widowmaker?
Stuns and slows out the ass?
Its "press Q to win" low skill ceilings?
Its 20 tick servers?
Its lack of custom content, moddability, a level editor, or custom servers?
The visual clutter?
I can understand someone playing Overhyped if they're bored of TF2, but it's not the better game.
>>341026012
Matchmaking update is inbound, which will have permanent Valve-supplied nocrit servers where players are matched based on skill. I've been playing the beta, it has some issues but it's pretty fun on the whole.
https://twitter.com/4G_b4nny/status/729824004215689217
neither of them are good tbqh, overwatch is too simplified and tf2 is really boring.
Overwatch fags on suicide watch when people are saying tf2 is better in less than a month.
>>341025651
Overwatch is already ded
TF2 is better in every way, except maybe community.
But Overwatch has more players, meaning more of your friends are probably playing it and there's more server variety.
TF2>Overwatch in pretty much every game play component.
WITH THAT SAID
Since Overwatch is still a babby, most classes seem viable. At the very least, Overwatch feels like a greater portion of its cast can perform compared to TF2's.
Seriously, Pyro, Spy, Engie, Heavy, and Sniper are leagues behind the core competitive four. Even Demoman seems a distant fourth compared to Scout, Soldier, and Medic.
This shit's gone unnoticed because pubs are full of shitters, but competitive mode will shine a light on TF2's imbalance. Either Valve gets their shit together or they'll soon realize that waifu skins outsell quirky hats.
why do all these threads have stupid youtube clickbait pictures in the OP
>>341034947
>only 4 usable characters
>hat-trading simulator
>infested with bronies and autism
>visual clutter meme
>shitty artstyle
The tears coming from TF2fags are deliciously salty
I am the only one who finds overwatch boring as fuck if you play alone? This never happened with tf2.
The 12 vs 12 and weapons variety makes the game more entretaining.
>>341036928
>TF2fag
>furry
I miss the days when furries were publicly shamed and ridiculed on this site, yiff in hell.
>>341036769
>only 4 usable characters
>defense and pick classes not being useful in every situation somehow means they're not usable
>hat-trading simulator
>infested with bronies and autism
I'll give you that one, but that's only because overwatch still has a price tag
>visual clutter meme
>game needs glowing outlines to show you who the enemy is
>shitty artstyle
>blizzard pretending they're pixar
>none of the heroes or maps are similar in the slightest and look like they were all ripped out of different games
>>341035982
That's why you don't play competitive.
>>341035982
>Even Demoman seems a distant fourth compared to Scout, Soldier, and Medic.
Demo is THE power class of tf2
Demos carry comp teams, no exceptions
He is almost more important than the medic
The class that has a job that breaks down to stand behind the good players and don't get shot, because they are so important
just wow
Tf2. Hats
>>341037230
>2SCOUT 2SOLDIER DEMO MEDIC LMAO
>you can literally change the UI and customize it for each character
>if I put a lie in a greentext then it'll make it sound true!
And Blizzard's pseudo-Pixar look is miles better than that atrocious play-dough looking style of TF2
>>341035982
>leagues behind the core competitive four
They are defense and pick specialists, they aren't supposed to be good all the time. Heavy, engineer, and sniper are all very strong when they don't have to move very far to get into position.
If they had as much mobility as the offense classes the game would slow to a crawl because it is extremely difficult to push into these classes and they shutdown aggression and flank plays.
>>341026091
>one-man-army scout/soldier
>I suck at tf2:the post
I'm sorry but unlike overwatch if you are good at the game a shitter can't touch you because your movement is too good and there isn't autoaim skills like casualwatch
>>341028353
>I dont want to argue with an autist about a video game*
>>341037708
>I lost please fuck my face
Not even him
>>341025651
I can't believe that TF2 is still played by quite a number of people, that game is so old.
>>341037894
Because it's so good it has actually longevity, unlike overwatch which will probably be on blizzard lifesupport once the memes die down and people get all the skins they cared about.
>>341037832
dumb frogposter
>>341025651
Overwatch is nice, but it's maps are horrible and years behind tf2 maps. I think the weakest point of overwatch are maps, chock points, wide open areas or paths that are not used by anyone and maps are hardly balanced for every class, it's cp_orange where max 3 classes rules.
>>341037708
>Get fucking told
>Reply two hours later praying that guy isn't still in the thread
>>341028928
Ammo did barely anything for Tf2 in terms of skill, it just lowered spammnig
>>341037247
Anybody who is decent in comp will tell you scout is the best, most impactful class in the game.
Soldiers and demos only exist to make space for scouts to go through choke points.
>>341037552
>2SCOUT 2SOLDIER DEMO MEDIC LMAO
Nice argument retard, clearly someone who has never played the game on any serious level. I'll humor you, okay let's say unlock and class restrictions are removed, this is what you get.
>Heavy makes sure nobody can ever kill the medic or bomb and guarantees a free win on mid
>Engineers with wrangler stacking up on last making it impossible to take
>Snipers locking down both flanks, machina ensuring anything that pushes them gets vaporized
>Instead of airshots, divebombing, and scout 4ks you get to watch heavy's and snipers staring at corners and engineers spamming wrench on their sentries
>you can literally change the UI
How does that change the fact the game needs outlines? You can't see a fucking thing with particle effects everywhere and everything blends in unlike TF2 where it's easy to read red and blu on orange backgrounds.
>is miles better than that atrocious play-dough looking style of TF2
TF2 is nearly a decade old, the fact that it has aged this well at all is an achievement.
Overwatch can't compete until it has 24 hour 2fort style maps.
>>341038395
>Anybody who is decent in comp will tell you scout is the best, most impactful class in the game.
No, scout scouts are impactful because they just dive for picks 27/7 and chance to get away unlike there dive bombing roamer
They are the most "impactful" because of there class roll in close games, but if your demo sucks you are just going to get rolled because the other team with just out dps you with their demo who can aim
also scout is the 2nd easiest "comp" class and is definitely the most braindead to play
demo will never not be what makes or breaks your team, been like that scene day one
>>341032801
this tf2 was always a joke its was never competitive it also introduced cash shops and pay2win shit
>>341025802
fpbp
>>341038395
>Anybody who is decent in comp will tell you scout is the best, most impactful class in the game.
Only in 6s, his usefulness declines the more players and defense classes there are.
>>341038660
>that fucking pyro with 200k+ kills on backburner
>>341038746
Actually demo's DPS has been pretty shit since the nerf. Soldiers generally top damage now.
I'd argue he's a little underpowered atm but he's still incredibly useful for sticky traps and area control.
>>341038403
>TF2
>aging well
It looked like shit a decade ago and still does today
>can't see anything unless everything is in big simplistic graphics
git gud shitter
>these other classes that are never used competitively are good, I swear! People just don't feel like using them!
>I can't wait to try out my 40 dollar hat on my custom Equestria map!
>>341037646
>they aren't supposed to be good all the time
As dictated by the meta.
You don't have to add mobility to add utility to the niche classes.
Of course, spergs who have literally thousands of hours in TF2 won't accept any buffs or nerfs that affect the superiority of stock weapons or the current meta. Valve either has to turn their head to these clowns or their ancient game will finally die.
>>341038746
Ever since demo nerfs, invite demos rarely get over 300dpm and are mostly just important on mids.
>dive for picks and get out
If you are playing a team that has a half decent flank you aren't going to be able to get close to the combo to get any meaningful picks. And a scout out of position will 9/10 times get killed by the pocket.
>braindead
Just because it's easy doesn't make it any less good.
>>341025651
They are different games, Both are good in their own aspect, Stop comparing them.
>>341025651
i loved tf2. bought it in 2008 or 9
great game, but it's gotten shittier since it went f2p
it's old news and overwatch is decent new news.
so overwatch.
it's fun with friends and is a decent game. just needs some balancing issues fixed and im happy. devs already said all the maps and heros getting added in a free shit. so 40 bucks for a friend to playwith my IRL bros
sure . ill play it. gunna play it today.
>tfw got laid off from work Friday
fun
Overwatch lacks a non competitive social interaction time waster layout. No "cancerous" 24/7 payload race where the objective doesn't matter and it's just 20 idiots goofing off with all chat on killing time before they have to do something.
I'd say TF2, sadly TF2 did not age well and even worse with all the Valve shit added but it's overall a much better game.
Overwatch has so little content, so little features and obviously all the money goes into making the short videos, "E-sports" and marketing instead into the game.
Even if Overwatch is a fun game it's not really going to last long because it's way too casual, little content and no depth at all.
>>341039156
>tfw got laid off from work Friday
sorry to hear that anon i sure you will get a better job
>>341038851
Even in highlander scout is still in the top 4 best classes because they can hold flanks and scout is the best class to push with uber advantage.
>>341038753
>pay2win
You can get ALL (200) weapons for $0.50 if you buy them through trading. Also most of them are sidegrades.
>>341039078
>He really thinks overwatch looks better then tf2
TAKE A FUCKING BASIC ART CLASS AND LEARN WHAT A COHESIVE ARTSTYLE IS
OVERWATCH IS VISUAL VOMIT OF THE ADVERTISING AGE, IT DOESN'T HAVE A ASCETIC OTHER THAN SUPERHERO AND IT DOESN'T EVEN CONFORM TO THAT
>>341039468
I can say things in ALLCAPS too but it doesn't make me right, only buttravaged as fuck
>muh skill ceiling
Overwatch has mechanics not based entirely on aiming at a much higher freq than TF2.
Overwatch also requires a different type of skill than TF2. It's like people that have really amazing aim in games like CoD or Quake etc... then get into CSGO and get ass ripped because aiming isn't even half the battle there.
TF2 is also old as fuck and has been in maintenance mode for like 3+ years now? Valve doesn't give a shit about it, and the amount of work to create TF3 and turning it loose on a saturated market isn't worth it.
>>341026885
>tf2 doesn't have
>- cringy writing and voice acting,
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WUhOnX8qt3I
>>341039351
hopefully. I haven't started looking yet, will soon though. Depressing to even think about. thanks though anon
I have a chance to go back, i'm only laid off bc of money situations at the company. If it gets better in two months I might go back, hopefully I have something good by then tho
>>341025802
TF2 2007-2013 fag here is overwatch worth playing?
cbf buying it at full price blizzard can get fucked $89aud
>>341039648
>aim in games like CoD
Thanks for a good laugh.
>>341039648
>Valve doesn't give a shit about it
That's exactly why they have a 20 man team working on competetive matchmaking for it.
>>341025651
I would probably say TF2 if I wasn't burned out on it.
>>341039630
I'M NOT EVEN THE GUY YOU WERE ARGUING WITH, JUST TELLING YOU THAT YOU ARE FUKING RETARDED TO THINK OVERWATCH, A GAME THAT IS BASICALLY THE VISUAL AESTHETIC OF A TOYS R'US ACTION FIGURE AISLE IS BETTER LOOKING THAN A GAME WITH A COHESIVE ARTSTYLE WHERE EVERYTHING LOOKS LIKE IT BELONGS
>>341039745
>Ausfag
>>341039761
there's more aim needed in cod then there is in cs tbqh
it goes like this:
poorfags/NEET fags from all countries, fake wanna-be MLG gamers, and autists will say TF2 is better.
Weabs, sonyniggers, SJW's and Casuals will say Overwatch.
That''s generally how it is.
>>341039927
I'll pick poorfags/NEET fags and autists over all this OW garbage any day.
>>341039912
what the mcfuck is up with that pic?
>>341039867
Holy shit I don't think I have a smug enough anime girl to react to how fanny flustered you are but I sure as hell can try.
Overwatch's artstyle is fine, everything fits the motif of "futuristic superhero with robots" and you can't prove me wrong.
>>341039784
They have been saying this shit for years.
>it takes a 20 man team more than a month to create a match making system.
Let alone considering that game developer is the fucking pioneer of a lot of advanced match making shit in their games (csgo / dota2).
You are being lied to retard.
>>341039927
I'm a "Weab" and even I find TF2 to be the better game.
Overwatch is just your typical Blizzard game, super casual and shallow.
It might be fun to play for some months but it gets tiring really fast.
>>341039867
Now now anon, I see where you are coming from.
But TF2's artstyle is also somewhat inconsistent in modern times with unusual effects and strange cosmetics out the arse.
I mean, it's not nearly as bad as OW, but keep in mind that TF2 ain't exactly perfect either.
>>341026885
Mod support literally isn't a feature in the "main game"
Not an argument.
Owie is to TF2 what Hearthstone was to MtG.
MtG makes shitty PC games.
>>341040379
>MtG makes shitty PC games.
So, nothing like TF2?
>Which is better?
Depends on what you're asking. TF2 is better from the standpoint of being established and everyone understanding that Scouts and Soldiers dominate the game (currently). The tickrate is better as well, much better. But the game is dead. Open is full of sandbaggers and invite is just b4nny recycling retirees. TF2 is done being balanced, it's at full potential, any changes now will just upset the community (see: demo stickies).
Overwatch has a horrible tickrate, but people are still figuring out the meta. Nerfs and buffs are incoming, and likely will be for awhile. The game already has more money in prize pools than TF2 had, which means invite players from TF2 will (and already are with the exception of those currently playing invite) move to Overwatch. No one wants to MGE or DM for hours just to get a check for $200.
Hopefully Overwatch will allow you to increase the tickrate in custom games later on. RIP TF2.
>>341040145
The beta has been out for a couple of months now. They also need to rebalance a lot of weapons so they are suitable for the 6v6 format.
>it takes a 20 man team more than a month to create a match making system.
Well shit, look at OW. It certainly did take them more than a month to make a MM system. And they have even more people than the TF team does.
>>341039078
>overwatch player telling others to git gud
That's rich
>these other classes that are never used competitively are good, I swear
Go watch some invite level players they say the same thing. Hell I think b4nny made a video on it a little while ago.
>>341040632
Blame esea for giving $1000 prize to open.
>>341040221
>Source Engine
>Workshop
>Mods not a feature
>>341040632
>Hopefully Overwatch will allow you to increase the tickrate in custom games later on. RIP TF2.
Tickrate is only 20 on quick play matches fuckwit, literally had 60tick servers on launch for any custom games.
>>341039000
What nerf? The stickybomb damage nerf was reversed almost instantly when it was introduced
>>341040192
90% OF THE HATS IN THE GAME FIT THE ARTSTYLE AND EVEN THE MERCS PERSONALITIES FINE, UNUSUALS ARE 20-300 HATS, ID ALMOST HATE TO SEE WHAT KIND OF ART STYLE SHATTERING SHIT BLIZZARD WOULD PROVIDE FOR 300 SHEKELS
AND REALLY UNUSUAL HATS ARE AN EXTENSION OF WHAT SERVER OWNERS WERE ALREADY DOING TO DRIVE SERVER DONATIONS, VALVE JUST MONITIVED IT AND MADE IT SO THEY COULD BE USED ON ALL SERVERS TO BREAK THE ARTSTYLE FOR THE OBSCENE PRICE YOU PAID
>>341040129
CAPSLOCK IS CRUSE CONTROL FOR COOL
AND NO IT DOESN'T, WHAT THE FUCK IS ROADHOG, JUNKRAT, AND FUCKING MCCREE
GAME DOESN'T EVEN FOLLOW ITS OWN RULES, ITS VISUAL VOMIT
As someone who plays both games often and doesn't sperg out about either, imo:
Overwatch:
Pros:
>Feels tight
>6v6
>~10 minute matches
>Skill-based matchmaking
>Everyone has an "ubercharge" so even the shittiest shitter can have his 10 seconds of glory
Cons:
>Very little community interaction
>Not much customization besides skins
>Few maps
>Few gamemodes (really need 5CP)
>Lots of classes means many are one-trick ponies
TF2:
Pros:
>Versatile classes, each feels like they pack a punch in their own way right out of the gate
>Lots of possible weapons/weapon combinations
>Community servers (there are good ones, you just have to look harder)
>Bigger game sizes than 6v6 means you can just goof around and not tryhard every game if you want
>Lots of gamemodes
>No hard counters, especially with different loadouts
Cons:
>No matchmaking (Beta stuff doesn't count)
>Questionable competitive balance after 10 fucking years (MM beta guys say it'll get better though and more classes will be viable besides soldier/scout/medic/demo)
>>341039912
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>>341025651
both are good, depends on what you are looking for.
I like the character variety and the characters having special powers so I prefer Overwatch, but both games are good.
>>341039078
>git gud
>overwatch player
>with their ult
>telling US to git gud
right
>>341040880
Maybe he's talking about loch'n'load?
>>341040652
They weren't even working on comp/MM until may.
The game is so devoid of content atm it is obvious this is a rushed realese on the corpse of project titan etc...
And this is Overwatch's biggest downfall atm... lack of content. The next few months and subsequent patches are major to whether this game succeeds or fails.
>>341040702
>>341040967
>triggered this hard
doesn't even deserve a smug anime girl
>>341040880
There was another one. They reduced sticky blast radius quite a bit and added a rampup from 85% while in the air
>>341040876
That option currently does not work. You would know this if you played enough.
>>341041117
>They weren't even working on comp/MM until may.
The beta got ranked in April. That means it was in development for at least a month. And it was complete garbage.
That means they are working on a ranked mm for at least 3 months, with a team much bigger than the TF team.
>>341040928
>Everyone has an "ubercharge" so even the shittiest shitter can have his 10 seconds of glory
You obviously don't play this game. It is incredibly easy to shutdown ultimates if you are even in a half competant team with communication.
>"tactical visor activated"
>everyone immediately looks for him and shuts him down in an instant
>"fire in the hole!"
>everyone takes cover and preaims corners to kill the 100hp tire
etc....
Ults are only "guaranteed" kills/success in shitty low tier pub matches
>>341041248
>cant even argue
you are the one being triggered,anon ;3
>>341041275
How does that factor into damage other than missing completely?
TF2 was only good when weapons were achievement based instead of pay to win.
>>341041562
You do less damage to groups, damage falloff is harsher, and long range sticky sniping is much more difficult.
>>341041740
You can buy all unique non-reskin weapons in TF2 for $0.50.
>>341041740
>TF2 was only good when weapons were not pay to win
So it's still good?
>>341041740
You don't have to pay for any weapon
>>341025802
This. I'm enjoying Overwatch quite a bit, but a few things are really frustrating me (namely Widowmaker/bad teammates every other game) that make me want to return to a TF2 that doesn't exist anymore.
>>341025651
Both are shit, but if I had to choose, it has to be Overwatch because Valve killed TF2 with microtransactions.
>>341041431
This. Above low level randoms they're used more for area denial/control than to get kills. Hanzo's dragons push you away from the payload/point for a few seconds, D.Va and Mccree make you move away out of sight for a few seconds, Mei makes you move back, same with Rein or Tracer. Reaper, Genji, Tracer, Pharah and Winston are more "kill them before they kill you". They're not unbalanced or free kills, they all have obvious audio cues.
>>341025651
they're both cringey nerd versions of shit like halo/destiny
>>341041909
Just pick winston and give widow the monkey dick if there is one on the other team giving you trouble.
Game is based on counterpicking on the fly
>>341042003
>Valve killed TF2 with microtransactions
?
I wonder who are those sad basement dwelling bastards who get overly excited over having successful Overwatch-anything thread.
>>341042003
>Valve killed TF2 with microtransactions.
And that's how I know you are full of shit.
The only thing i can say is that i get a lot more angry in overwatch than i get in TF2. Too many "bullshit!" moments i guess.
>>341042081
A good enough Widow can get away from hot monkey dicc with her hook/kill him with a headshot + her SMG and mines.
The only true counter for a good Widow is a better Widow, I personally hope that Blizzard nerfs that french slut into unplayable tier.
havent been able to play overwatch, but ive been playing tf2 and its way more fun than i remember
both look pretty good though
>>341035101
hell yea
>>341042296
Windstons leap has like a 5 sec CD how does grapple counter that?
Also getting off a charged headshot pointblank on an ape that can just jump around like a madman while keeping 100% accuracy on his cone weapon whilst doing so.
no.
on top of 500hp you have the bubble shield too.
>>341033914
>spies
Be aware of your surroundings and check your back often to minimize the chance of being killed by a Spy.
>having your hard built turret blown up by a beggars bazooka
In all honesty, the Beggar's Bazooka is a bit OP. It's way too good at everything.
>Scottish revolution
Easily the worst Stickybomb Launcher for the Demoman. Rush down a Scottish Resistance Demoman and he won't be able to blow you up fast enough.
>Backburners
Be aware of your surroundings and check your back often to minimize the chance of being killed by a Backburner Pyro.
>>341026474
>party games
>Overwatch
>fucking TF2
What kinds of parties do you go to?
>>341025651
as someone who plays both tf2 gives more freedom of movement to players, is based more on personal skill rather than picking the right hero, and has much less forgiving hitboxes, (except for hunstman and syringes, but the latter is a non-issue)
huge tf2 update coming soon, hopefully fixing all the shitty problems unlocks created.
>>341042570
Not him but you haven't played against good enough Widows. After a certain skill level they just break the game.
10 years and autobalance in tf2 is still stupid as fuck. There should just be a penalty for leaving
>>341042789
>tf2 gives more freedom of movement
tf2 6V6 is immensenly better than overwatch the thing is that TF2 devs were too retarded to use it properly and even the current "comp" is cancer due to no class limits or weapon bans
playcomp.tf
>>341043000
>giant hitboxes combined with a low tick rate
>anything besides hide behind the choke and build ult meta
ya it dose, by a long shot
>>341043000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9OSLPHG17M
>>341043000
OW doesn't even have air strafing. The only movement options it does have are "push q to jump" that are on long cooldowns.
>>341043000
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9ZZrOnI-L8
anything similar to rocket jump feels awkward as fuck in OW
>>341039927
>weeb and sony fag
>still like tf2 better
>>341039745
>complaining about $89 when your country's minimum wage is over $17
>>341025651
you can't do this
they are different games in terms of skill and also gameplay
tf2 has limited ammo and no abilities, overwatch only has modes that already bore me when i have been playing tf2 since 2007.
something about OW turns me off and its probably the lack of 24/7 level servers and fake accomplishment with the levels. they do nothing at all, at least tf2 had new weapons after a while. yeah OW is new, but i don't feel that its going to keep me playing as long as TF2 still is.
shit, imagine if spy could only cloak for 3 seconds every 10 seconds. imagine if medic didn't have uber to push though enemy bullshit (tf2 engie is better than tolberone)
all i want with OW is junkrat to have nade jumping, but that would make me 1000% better than everyone else in the game since im an oldschool fps pro and i already destroy the game
also, this shit couldnt support a real deathmatch due to stupid ability shit
OW skill ceiling makes you hit your head all the time
whats the point of having abbilities that dont require any skill such as "press key around a lot of people to kill automatically"
>>341025651
Tf2. At least there isn't press q to do this.
>Play overwatch thinking I can just have some fun killing people and improving
>Win or lose depends mostly on coordination with the team
>Coordinating 5 pseudonymous assholes on the internet
Fuck it. I'm done with the game until I can move away from the moba-meme.
>>341042040
ur insane
