>players can build their own vaults
>post-war
This kills the lore
pre-war Jet and vertibirds already did that.
They clearly don't care.
And if you still give a shit about Fallout 4 you shouldn't either.
Who the fuck cares about Fallout lore
>>340994885
How the fuck is building a vault post-war non lore friendly? I'm not even Todd.
>>340996287
New Vegas isn't worth remastering.
They would need to rebuild the game from the ground up on the new engine.
Although it would be cool, I highly doubt it will happen.
>>340996220
>impossible to do
>only a limited number of vaults, all of which were a vault-tec experiment
It's okay if they think of like 3 new vaults for each game but letting everyone just build their own one is plain retarded.
>>340995880
I just hope they come out at some point and claim that Fallout 4 is non-canon.
>>340996287
>>340996395
>>340996515
>there won't be another Obsidian fallout anymore
>>340996220
planning
resources
manpower (machine power)
time
>>340996678
>but letting everyone just build their own one is plain retarded.
Good thing it's just remodeling and renovation of 111 then?
You should actually watch the video.
>>340996528
>Talking shit about New Vegas
>>340996287
>>340996395
>>340996515
What's the point of these twitter caps?
I know Obsidian has fans and I know none of their former publishers want to hire them again already.
>>340996914
>You should actually watch the video.I actually didn't watch it, just saw the announcement
>>340996983
New Vegas is not that great of a game.
It was buggy, it looked like shit, the voice acting was shit, the mechanics were even shittier than Fallout 3.
Only 15-18 year olds praise Fallout New Vegas, because it was either one of their first "adult" games or because they think ultra dumbed down and poorly functioning RPG = good.
>>340996983
>wanting a shitty remaster on an old engine
>even if there's plenty of mods that already polish this graphical turd
We all love NV but there's just no reason to "remaster" it. Maybe rebuild it on a better engine like anon said.
I'd expect this out of some short-sighted modder with way too much ambition but not enough knowledge on how to pull it off.
How can they even make this work? Trying to build above-ground settlements with any amount of complexity is already an exercise in futility in how bad the system is.
>>340997171
>one of their first "adult" games
>A silly as fuck game like Fallout
>"Adult"
What the fuck?
> Vault-Tec
> Had an iron grip on the US Government to build hundreds upon hundreds of vaults when they were actually used to fuck with people in tests.
> Highly rare locations with potentially life-saving technology inside such as working hospitals and the GECK.
> Fallout 4
> LOL GUISE YOU TOO CAN CREATE A VAULT WITH SOME WOOD AND METAL
> JUST DIG OUT A CAVE ITS EAAAAASY
> FORGET ABOUT THOSE MORBID EXPERIMENTS, JUST ENJOY THE VAULT BOY MASCOT MERCH WE HAVE ON SALE
I want to be in a grave right now.
>>340994885
This is literally a mod you can download for free right now, what the fuck is with Bethdesa trying to one up the modding community with all of these bullshit settlement cosmetics DLCs. I feel bad for the poor shmucks who bought the season pass, if you don't build settlements (which is already known that no one fucking does) then a good chunk of the DLC they've realesed is worthless.
>>340996983
"Better than Fallout 3" means nothing when it's also shit. It wouldn't be worth anyone's time to remake New Vegas on Creation Engine.
You people drone for Obsidian almost as much as you did for Nintendo.
>>340994885
a mod that looked exactly the same minus "experiments" which will probably be watered down clunky shit is already available for PC and consoles to build your own vault.
hilarious they still talk about Fallout 4 being AMAZING, I don't care about the sales, that was brand name and normies. The game is universally panned.
>>340997750
Didn't they announce two, and the other one is just some nonsense that allows you to build armor racks?
>>340997256
theres already a vault creator as a mod on consoles that is exactly the same as Bethesda's
>>340997601
Not him but I've heard more than enough people call Fallout New Vegas a "thinking man's game".
Probably the same types of people who think The Witcher games are "mature games for mature gamers".
>>340997695
it died with the announcement of that shitty phone game, remember?
>>340997750
>I feel bad for the poor shmucks who bought the season pass
i don't. they all got what they deserved. every single one of them.
>>340997750
>This is literally a mod you can download for free right now,
It literally is not, you fucking retard. They put Skyrim on the updated Creation engine, which allows it to benefit from the improvements Fallout 4 did. Shut the fuck up if you don't know what you're talking about.
>>340998351
if they had just released the GECK some guy would have just made a mod and release it for free.
Bethesda knew all of this and made these add-ons first and charged money for them.
If anyone in here is a modder, please help a brother out.
>>340997452
>>340997750
Wasteland Workshop is such a waste of money
The only thing I use from it is the concrete walls, nothing else.
>why should we create the content when the players can create it for themselves
wew lad, I can't wait for skyrim 2 where there's only one town and you have to build the rest
>>340994885
nigga Beth discovered they don't need to create a game or have lore, just let people build/mod and you will sell millions of copies without effort
next TES will just be a "create your own adventure" toolkit
>>340998542
I simply went over a tiny bit of the build
limit with the scrapping gun exploit.
now my save crashes 10 mins into workshop mode and or when I travel to "major" cities like Diamond City.
I already hated this game but this just takes the biscuit.
>>340997695
>I did not watch the video and am just kneejerk reacting
Alright then.
>>340998848
how much sweat did you muster up before submitting your epic reply to that anon?
WEW
>>340994885
who actually cares
LAD
>>340994885
It's BETHESDA'S franchise now. Get over it nerds.
> 2016
The lore of Fallout has Dr Who in it.
>>340996794
good. obsidian should have to make something themselves that's worth rehashing.
honestly I'm not mad if anything I'm a little interested in the idea of making my own vault
Outside the fact that few vaults were meant to house people , a majority were meant to experiment and all vaults took hours upon hours to complete
I think for video game sake this is fine
>>340997601
adults are silly
> Buying Bethesda DLCs
>>340999190
Just retcon my shit up
> People pay for weapon racks
> When its free on Nexus
>>340999190
>this guy is perfectly cool with the fact bethesda cucked him out of lore he worked to write
bet he let todd fuck his wife too
>build a fucking settlement
>Build a fucking vault
I loved FO3 and NV, but everything I've seen of FO4 looks like super non-fun work, and the art design is too clean/saturated.
>>340998986
literally the same as a free mod that came out on consoles too
>>340999190
so THAT's why he left. He gave up hope.
>>340996515
don't worry anon
soon
Literally why
>>340999238
Into the trash it goes.
sounds like fallout shelter
>>340999082
ahahaha I h8 bethesda
fuck todd howard
I hope he chokes on his bulls cum
>>340999759
this is beyond pathetic
rip elder scrolls single player
>>340999662
Are these actually the graphics of FO4?
Through excellent super-sleuthing I have discovered that your "vault"...
>>340999759
Bethesda just doesn't care
their games are GTA clones with different coats of paint
>>340999670
More like accepts that his company was going under and doesn't dwell in the past like a fucking moron.
Also I'm pretty sure he's single.
>>340996220
>I'm not even Todd.
One shitposter only tells the truth. His brother only tells lies. You can only ask one question to figure out what path to take.
>>341000068
...Is literally in a underground hanger/warehouse interior cell just like the Mechanist Settlement.
No real digging for you vault dweller.
>>340998986
>wood
Quality.
>>340994885
What's the point? Will it count as a settlement? It has the potential to be pretty interesting
LIKE SERIOUSLY WHAT THE FUCK IS ALL THIS SHIT.
YOU ARE A PARENT. WHAT KIND OF PARENT DOESN'T GO OUT SEARCHING FOR THEIR MISSING CHILD?
>NAH LET'S BUILD SETTLEMENTS
>NAH LET'S GO ON SIDE QUESTS TO FIND PAINT
>NAH LET'S COLLECT MORE MATERIALS
>>341000468
No one cares about the story.
>>341000468
>MUH BABY
Nah.
Fuck off with that.
> Remember how the Sierra Madre was an excellent story of survival, weighing trust/risk and coming to let go of your vices?
> HERE IS A DISNEYWORLD DLC OF OUR MEME COLA
> ENJOY WACKY RIDES WITH REALLY AWFUL COMMENTARY ABOUT MATERIALISM OR SOME SHIT
>>341000152
Which games would you ask me to preorder if you were your brother?
>>341000705
Brink 2
>>341000584
>>341000627
it's a plot that doesn't make sense.
Even doubly so if you play as a female character.
>>341000672
>> HERE IS A DISNEYWORLD DLC OF OUR MEME COLA
>> ENJOY WACKY RIDES WITH REALLY AWFUL COMMENTARY ABOUT MATERIALISM OR SOME SHIT
The setting is a good idea. A theme park has all kinds of things inside it that you could do crazy stuff with. The potential for scrapped machinery and creepy shit is huge. The setting is a good idea. The problem is that Bethesda won't utilize it properly.
>>341000830
Hence why no one cares.
>>341000672
Hey, you leave Nuke Cola and Sunset Sarsaparillas out of this
>>341000468
I literally couldn't care less about Shaun. As far as I'm concerned, Duncan is my step-son and I'm Daddy #2
>>340998721
>elder scrolls city building sim
id play it desu
>>341000903
FNAF: Fallout :^^^^))))))))))
>>341000468
>YOU ARE A PARENT. WHAT KIND OF PARENT DOESN'T GO OUT SEARCHING FOR THEIR MISSING CHILD?
A shitty parent, which does exist. And the fact that you don't necessarily have to go search for the child makes it more meaningful that you did.
Like how murdering a prostitute in GTAIII is more meaningful because you didn't have to do it.
>>340999670
>>341000103
He's gay you fucking morons.
Unlike you he isn't trapped in the past.
>>340995885
This, the 1950s style was stupid anyway since fallout. Heck fallout originally was a salty game that the devs wished to work on wasteland.
Ive been a wasteland and fallout fan for a long long time, if i were to choose those favourite games again, i will take wasteland 1 and 2 and fallout 3 and 4.
Fuck chris abalone, fuck J.E.SJWcuck Sawyer, wtf brian fargo, bless Pete and Hail Todd and God Bless Bethesda.
>>341000672
>Todd: Taken over by Raiders
>oh. what kind of raiders?
>Todd: Raiders
>do they have names?
>Todd: Probably. But they are Raiders.
>if they have names then why are they generic raiders? why not make them a new fact--
>Todd: because they are Raiders.
>but what separates these guys from the r--
>Todd: JUST FUCKING BUY IT!
>>341001018
Yeah, maybe somebody actually might produce a better game than skyrim
>>341000672
>Fallout is serious business, guys!
Fuck off.
Honestly, the shit you people put on a pedestal as "good writing" in the video game world is fucking embarrassing.
>>340998098
I still want to try that. I'm too lazy to download an Android emulator though.
>vaults pre-war cost hundreds of billions to make, with Vault 13 costing $645,000,000,000
>somehow the sole survivor can make his own vault with the scraps he finds lying around without any of the advanced pre-war tech needed to construct a vault
>>341000672
You do know amusement parks were likely to exist before the Great War right?
> There are actually people who think Fallout 4 is better then FNV
>>341001130
I have some ideas for a mechanic that would give raiders at least some humanity. Make it so they will tell you to back off and if you don't they shoot. Also give them some random generated names so they have identity. Then you could also have people with the same last name as someone you killed say that you killed someone dear to them or something along those lines. You know something to make raiders bearable
>>341001516
No one is denying their existence
Anon is just saying that there wont be another dlc with good story or world like in previous games
>>340998351
There literally is you double fuck retard neanderthal.
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/10603/?
>>341001674
>Thinking any fallout is good
Suck it fall fags, wasteland is the good stuff.
I seriously don't fucking get it who gives a shit? The SS is already fucking Tony Stark
>took the Institute decades to build a teleporter and he builds on in a cave in 30 minutes from scrap
It isn't hard to imagine the schematics for the vaults are in the vaults. Some retards might look at the absurd price like >>341001380
but they're wrong and retarded because they price is only that high due to massive inflation. Do you really think a single car costing $2,000,000 was because it was worth that much?
>>341001789
Writing has always been the basis for Fallout since the gameplay is kind of slow but the lore and story are just perfect
>>341001703
>I have some ideas
>>341001826
Wow, this is embarrassing. How is Bethdesa being out done by modders, the DLC looks fucking shallow compared to this.
>>341001906
> Trying to justify this clear bullshit
nah senpai
>>341001935
TODD NO DON'T DO IT
>>340994885
Bethesda really doesn't give a shit about the lore that should be left to Obsidian
>>340999190
Jesus Christ, the actual creator of the lore of Fallout had kneeled down and kissed Todd's rings, I fucking hate Bethdesa.
> Implying Bethesda cares about you lore sperglords.
Todd will rape your favourite series into dust, the narrative is whatever he imagines it to be without reason or constraint to the established background.
Do not hold any hope.
>>341002131
Honestly obsidian should have their own spin off series
>>340994885
>giving a shit about fallout "lore"
it was always crap to begin with
>dude bottle cap money lmao
>>341001935
Todd is the dreamboy
Why is Boston so barren? It makes sense in NV since it takes place in a desert but shouldn't 200 years give ample time for flora to take over again?
Also
>Grass Captcha
Contraptions look really need, WAAAH MUH LORE where does the lore say you can't build a vault if you have the resources? No idea what Nuka World will be about but it might be like The Pitt.
Most of the shitters whining here are just salty because it isn't NV.
>>341002421
*neat
>>341002421
>where does the lore say you can't build a vault if well it's like giving a man a metric ton of steel and asking him to make a boat. You have material but no skills or means to make it.
>>341002418
It's just a game, stop thinking
>>341002558
Make me faggot
>STOP HAVING AN OPINION!
> Todd what should we put south of the Boston city?
> LOL DUNNO just make a huge fucking empty marsh field with no locations to visit
>>341002395
Well we can only hope that they still can
>>341002421
vaults arent made out of wood
>>341002662
>no locations
what are you even talking about
Didn't Vaults cost like trillions of dollars to make?
Who knew some faggot with a dog could just take some scrap metal and make his own.
>>341002621
>You have material but no skills or means to make it.
That didn't stop the main character from shitting out water purifiers, generators, and robots.
>>341001124
I actually always got a bit of that vibe from him but is that confirmed? It's tough to tell with geeky straight guys sometimes.
Either way he's a qt.
>>340996220
>ALL OF THE COUNTRY'S INDUSTRY AND INFRASTRUCTURE WAS DESTROYED
>NO CONSTRUCTION EQUIPMENT AVAILABLE
>NO MAJOR RESOURCES AVAILABLE
>LIMITED MANPOWER
>HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
>STRUGGLE FOR BASIC NEEDS IS REAL
YEAH LET THEM JUST GET RIGHT TO BUILDING YOUR MULTI MILLION DOLLAR VAULT IN THE MIDDLE OF THIS WASTE LAND, NO PROBLEM.
>>341001126
>This, the 1950s style was stupid anyway since fallout.
Fuck you. You bitch tits, cock biting, dick weasel pickle harmer. The 50s thing is cool. It makes Fallout stand out from more generic post-apoc games. Without it, the games would just be Mad Max with lame mutants and no cars.
> Want to recreate a segment of a vault, one of the most highly advanced underground facilties of the near future?
> get hit me up with 5kg of wood, rubber and steel i'll make it perfectly fa.m
JUST
>>341002642
Not an argument
>>341002825
that is an issue upon itself. if those were barred off by you having to find someone or something to allow you to build those things instead of you just knowing how to build shit then I wouldn't have an issue
That'll be $10 please, plus tip.
>a bunch of overweight manchildren upset about their LAWR
yeah todd will get right on fixing it for you lmao
>>341002418
http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11121/?
might sate you
>>340998098
mmmm. thikk
>>340994885
No it doesn't. There isn't any lore saying that building vaults is a lost technology or some bullshit.
It's just very hard to do, requires a lot of resources and manpower and would be a ridiculous undertaking for one guy.
Then again, so would building an entire settlement's worth of buildings, killing an entire stronghold filled with Super Mutants by yourself or single handedly beating a Deathclaw to death with your bare hands.
However you have always been able to build settlements in Fallout 4 and you have always been unrealistically badass and powerful in every single Fallout game. Even in Fallout 1 you could beat a Deathclaw down barehanded with the right build and levels and destroying an entire stronghold of Super Mutants was the main quest despite the idea of 1 person doing these things being preposterous.
It's unrealistic. However it's not lore breaking and doing unrealistic shit is kind of par for the course in an RPG.
>>340999238
>easter eggs
>>341003078
Why are you even here?
>>341001703
>You know something to make raiders bearable
In New Vegas some of the raiders belonged to gangs. There was no story for them. Instead of just "raiders" some of them were called "Vipers." It broke up monotony. They should have just created 4 generic gangs and split the generic raiders up into them, with different gangs holding different turfs in the wasteland.
The names wouldn't even have to be that good or clever.
>The Deathriders
>The Rats
>The Bluebloods
>The Hat Party Men
>The Pickle Ticklers
Anything but raiders.
>>341003225
to laugh at you shitters getting assmad at every single thing bethesda does
>>341002885
THEN HOW DOES VAULT CITY EXIST THEN YOU DOUBLE NIGGER
>>341003324
VAULT CITY WAS A PRE WAR VAULT THAT WAS BUILT UPON USING THE UNLIMITED POWER OF THE G.E.C.K YOU FUCKING MONGOLOID
>>341003324
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Eden_Creation_Kit
Fallout 4-man doesn't have a GECK.
>>341001335
good news, its coming to pc
>>340994885
>CURRENT YEAR
>>341003324
the purpose of the control vaults was for them to be able to use the vault supplies to rebuild on the outside shady sands did that with a fucking geck it's just ass ravaged nerds who don't know their own lore
Take the money you want to spend buying DLC 4 and 5 and go to the nexus or other site an donate it to a moder that did the same thing.
>>341003319
well we are giving constructive criticism of the game and how to improve it.
and you can't really say you had no issue with fallout 4.
say what YOU think is wrong with the game
>>341003182
>It's unrealistic
ya but continuity and realism are two different things
If you could build an entire vault with scrap then fallout 1 would make no sense
>>341003494
>>341003496
How do you know he doesn't have one? Vault Tec didn't use one to build their vaults. The only reason you didn't see people building their own giant science vaults is for shit like permits and paying workers which is where all the money went do you think they really spent millions on steel?
>>341003324
Vault City is a pre-existing Vault you fucking cu ck. get the fuck out and actually play the games.
>>341003607
>let's just shit all over the place with green shit XDDD
>>341003671because bethesda hasnt released it yet you stupid cooch
No one would buy this shitty dlc if they did
>>341003494
THE G.E.C.K DOESN'T ACCOUNT FOR MOST OF YOUR POINTS
>LIMITED MANPOWER
AND
>HOSTILE ENVIRONMENT
BEING EXAMPLES
>>341003072
seriously wt is the point of this? what could you possibly build with this shit that would benifit you
>>341003513
Ladders are pretty rare in real life, outside of maintenance work or industrial jobs.
Nobody would build a settlement with ladders.
>>341003512
That's kind of cool. I can't imagine I'll get more than an hour or two out of it, but it'll be neat to see what all the fuss was about at last.
>>340998098
>>341003175
Kek, I fucking love this game
>>341003671
> gets blown the fuck out
> b-b-b-but guise what a-about
ayy lmao
>>341003513
>tfw modders can do ladders but bethesda can't
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/47953/?
>>341003784
YOU DONT NEED MAN POWER WITH THE GECK
>>341003607
That looks great, but I'm still not buying Fallout 4.>>341003671
>do you think they really spent millions on steel?
>>341000057
yes
>>340997847
>universally panned
It's like you don't know what those words mean.
>>341003632
And if everyone was as badass as the player character in any given Fallout game Super Mutants, Deathclaws and every other dangerous creature in the wasteland would have been destroyed by ridiculously overpowered humans and the entire series would make no sense.
There is no difference. You are the main character, you get to do unrealistic shit that if everyone could do it would break the world. That is how it has always been.
>>341003864
those ladders teleport you. that is not climbing.
>>341003828
Not even the same guy if you think everyone who disagrees with you is the same person you should fuck off to (((reddit))).
Give me real and tangible PROOF that only Vault Tec has the magic resources to build a vault.
>>341003671
>permits in the waste land
too retraded, tone it down.
>>340994885
not interested in discussing how realistic things are in an alternate universe post-apoc game w/ talking mutants and ghouls
what purpose does any of this serve
>>341004036
>this is a legit tweet
this premise is so fucking dumb unless its some type of simulation or some shit.
lol hahah guys come right in, just wear these suits htere hahaha. yeah let me make industrial materials from wood and steel hahaha its easy!
>>341001906
Alright you fucking dipshit let's look at some numbers. Fallout 3 shows advertisements for a car at $1,000,000. Let's say that those car shown for that much weren't regular cars, they were luxury cars. Like a Mercedes-Benz SL Roadster, priced at $87,000. That means every dollar then is worth 8.7¢ today. So let's apply that to the vault cost. In today's price, it would cost $56,115,000,000 to build one vault.
Fuck off.
>>340994885
Implying that it won't be a vault template that you can interact with. It would make total sense that Vault-tec created a new technology to design and create vaults faster, but only got to create one prototype before the end.
Hell it might even be a vault that was designed to be built by the lone dweller assigned to that vault. Imagine if they wanted to see what a human could design for a home if it was all alone, but had limitless resources to create its own home...
Who am I kidding, it will probably be some shitty "We are descendants of the original vault builders, help us and we teach you how to make steel beams and rivets from scratch.
The point is that someone COULD easily make it work within the story and setting of the Fallout series, but they probably won't...
>>341004017
IT IS THE SAME GUY YOU FAT CUNT
>not even the same guy but heres how little i know about the GECK
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Garden_of_Eden_Creation_Kit
>all these nexus kind of dlc mods you have to pay for
>next expansion you going to a fucking theme park.
im just gonna replay new vegas again if you dont mind.
>literally charging for snap n build and clutter mods that have been out for over 6 months
>bethdrones WILL defend this
>>340994885
>there's literally already a mod that does this
That's the issue with the slow-drip workshop mods, modders get it done faster.
>>341003671
>do you think they really spent millions on steel?
The materials would cost a lot. The vaults are obviously made from pre-fab. This would save money pre-war but it means that the vaults are made from pieces of steel formed into exact shapes. The casting and forming of the steel pieces would be impossible with wasteland resources. The curved sheet metal, the steel beams, the piping, railings. You can't produce all that by hand. Those are made by industrial machinery that is made by industrial machinery that is made by industrial machinery.
A scrap metal shack is one thing. I've built shacks out of scrap before. It's easy. A underground vault is beyond impossible.
>>341004036
i have a soft spot in my heart fir tod but pete hines is a fucking dick
Actually looks cool, conveyor belts or whatever spawned all that crap being put onto the belts look like they could be useful
>>341000672
i wonder if they'll have the creator of nuka cola's head in cryo storage
>>341000261
>you dont actually make a vault
>just rooms in a big underground cube
>the mod is still better
>even I can make vaults in my xbone
Fucking Bethesda
>>341001294
>it's okay to go against story structure and lore because it's videogaymes xD
This is you.
>>341004018
Where did I say wasteland? Did Vault Tec work in the wasteland. You got one thing right you are too "retraded".
>>341004218
Contrary to your retarded idea not everyone who thinks you're retarded is the same person, it just so happens that a lot of people hold that opinion of you. PROVE THAT ONLY VAULT TEC COULD BUILD VAULTS.
>>341004261
Materials would still be less than permits, contracts and wages. You can even fucking see the equipment you would probably have used to build it in the promo.
>>341002890
He's right you know.
>>341001703
I YIELD
Critique thread has delved into complete baitposting.
>>341004417
Materials would still cost a fuckton you imbecile. Give me a % on how much you think materials amount to in the total budget of a vault
>MUH LORE
Why are western gamers so autistic?
Most Jap devs make shit up as they go and run with it and nobody complains as long as it's cool.
>>341003124
>http://www.nexusmods.com/fallout4/mods/11121/?
God bless this mod. Actually makes the environment more realistic.
>>341004549
On the structure probably only 20%.
>>341004293
USEFUL FOR WHAT
WHAT THE FUCK DOES THIS CRAP EVEN ACCOMPLISH
>>341003864
>>341003979
This one has a climbing feature.
http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/61824/?
>>340998201
>>340997750
There is a mod you can download that adds an old pre-war sub that lets you fast travel around the waters of FO4, but nothing that lets you build a vault.
Also, the people that bought the season pass mostly bought it for $30 before the price jump to $50. This means that those people will be able to have the DLC that a lot of interesting mods will probably be built on.
Can you imagine Elianora given an entire fucking vault to do with as she pleases? Chairs will have wet seats in anticipation of people's excitement at the mods... so long as there still are mods after so many pirates have been stealing things from the nexus and posting them on bethnet as their own creations.
>>340997695
Never played fallout. Shit looked kinda fun.isn't that what games are about, Anon? Fun?
>>341004227
>todd people keep complaining about the lack of farms in the capitol wastes
>just make the player make their own farms
>todd people keep complaining about how our games feel like theme parks
>then just give them a theme park dlc
>>341004891
You are wrong. There absolutely is a mod that lets you build vaults
>>341004479
Yeah, would also be nice if surrendering enemies would actually you know, surrender.
Either run away and never come back or drop your weapon and actually give up.
Really pissed me off ever since they started doing that in Skyrim, they surrender only to turn around and attack you almost immediately afterwards despite the situation not having changed at all.
>tfw this is your first fallout game and have really been enjoying it..
>>341004654
Great. A fucking vault costs 645 billion dollars to make. >>341004206 says that equals around $56,000,000 dollars in today's cash. That's still $11,200,000 for just the materials.
>>341004898
>FUN
NO FUN ALLOWED ONLY LORE REEEEEEEE
The biggest mistake i did was buying the game on PS4
I always thought they fixed all the issues consoles had with their games:
The bugs, glitches, game breaking bugs, the horrid control.
Nothing i mean the game is ugly as fuck.
I dont care for anybody, every character in the game is lazy written, has stiff animations and every location is just lazy designed
Why the fuck would somebody hoard caps in a pre war safe?
Whats the point? Why is there pipe guns in pre war safes?
Why are settlers settling 40 meters way from a raider headquarter?
Why are brick building not destroyed yet to reuse their bricks?
How can building made out of wood still existant after 200 years?
Why is every faction in Fallout 4 so shitty?
Why are the Minuteman givig away the sam quests over and over again?
Why is the Railroad so god damn useless and inconsistant in their goals?
Why is the base building even implemented if i cant change hills for example? Its a chore to build anything at all because its floating or submarging in dirt.
I liked Fallout 3 ( Collector Edition ) and NV but Fallout 4 is shit and i cant wait to have the Platin trophy so i can sell it
Fallout as the original 2 games have been fucking over for a long time.
We're fucking lucky as fuck that New Vegas actually made it out and at least there was a modicum of lore and story from the two previous games available in it.
NV with all it's flaws is the swansong of original Fallout, it won't be long before Bethesda decides to do their own games out west and start to really fuck with the lore.
It's only a matter of time, seriously. But at the end of the day F1 and 2 are still available to play, maybe one day someone like inXile or Obsidian will have the budget to make another Wasteland game or something very similar to it and the old Fallouts
>>340999560
The commonwealth is full of mannequins and they still create a new one fo displays.
>>341004891
>nothing that lets you build a vault.
>I don't even read the threads I post in
ftfy
see >>340999082
reminder that there are literally HUNDREDS of FREE mods to let your build mode autism run wild with and they have been out for over 6 months and if you actually pay for this shit you should be culled.
>>341004995
Thats because you never got to experience a good fallout game
>>341004995
consider suicide
>>341004417
>Materials would still be less than permits, contracts and wages. You can even fucking see the equipment you would probably have used to build it in the promo.
But the materials still have to come from somewhere. The vaults have to be made of pre-fab parts that are assembled on site. Giant steel girders, thick sheet metal, bracing, tubes. A lot of the vaults are are rounded in cross section. This requires thick, cast pieces of steel to form the body, reinforced with girders that are specifically made to fit. Then there is wiring, plumbing, ventilation, etc.
You can't make that on site. It makes no sense. Even accounting for the gameplay to be fun, it makes no sense to build a replica of a pre-war vault. The cost in man hours, toil and materials wouldn't outweigh the utility.
The difficulty in producing the materials to create a reproduction of a pre-war vault is a much greater limiting factor than pre-war contracts, permits and wages.
If they were just digging Viet-cong tunnels with wooden and steel beams it would make way more sense.
>>341001126
If yhe fiftys style is so shit in your eyes why the fuck do you like 3 or 4? Since in those games it was pretty much as culture stood completely still in such an odd way that people still act like its the 50s all along even after fucking centurys.
You better be ine baiting mother fucker cause if nit you just hella dumb fir picking that as a big thing to dislike about it.
>>341005235
90% of the stuff in the workshop dlc isnt done by mods though
link me a SINGLE mod that has animal cages pre WW
link me a SINGLE MOD that has a completely new tileset with unique snap points, triangular floor pieces, angled walls and circular pieces.
>>341005235
Is there a mod that lets me make a base in that one gunner camp on top of the freeway? I'm still mad that wasn't one to begin with. It even has a fucking workbench/power armor station for fuck's sake
>>340994885
you all say "muh lore"
none of you say "vault of 999 women and me as overseer"
>>341005496
you can make any cell in the game buildable with just console commands.
>>341005063
>NO FUN ALLOWED ONLY LORE REEEEEEEE
If you aren't going to adhere to the theme of the game in a consistent way why even bother with one?
Just make everything random colours, don't have a story, no characters and you go around launching purple cubes at prism enemies and collect shit. That should be pure, unadulterated fun.
So is the new dlc part of the season pass?
>>341004601
haha yeah dude fucking nerds lolz
Would you play a SS13-like game but in a Fallout universe Vault?
>>341004417
>Its an "I make sure i respond to every anon like my opinion matters" poster
Wow something something reddit.
Since you have no idea what vaults are, why they were made, and what they actually do heres a link
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout_Wiki
Now youll look like less of a dumbass and leave the thread! its a win win!
i think i might actually be going insane
who the fuck plays a game so they can place generic assets with no gameplay value in a literal wasteland
like with minecraft i can kinda see the point because it's sufficiently granular that you can make stuff out of your autism blocks that represents a shape other than itself
but this is literally just as interesting as downloading assets from the unity store and playing dollhouse with them
>>341005235
its a pretty obvious how shit the game and his fans are if the most downlaoded mods consists of grafical enhancement and building shit
>>341005748
yes
>>341005841
>who the fuck plays a game so they can place generic assets with no gameplay value in a literal wasteland
Sometimes I get fatigued from the constant wasteland battling. Anywhere you go you are attacked by raiders or supermutants or ferals or scorpions. So it's nice to settle in and design your house to wind down.
I decorated my living spaces in FO3 and NV.
>>341002356
or maybe he just realises that consistent Lore isn't as important as autismlords make it out to be.
just keep the big details that actually happened in-game consistent and almost anything that wasn't actually seen in game it doesn't matter if it gets changes
>>341005841
>but this is literally just as interesting as downloading assets from the unity store and playing dollhouse with them
that's the best part. ship an incomplete game and give players the ability to make stuff, then charge money for more parts so players improve upon the game (for free) and then steal their ideas and put them in the next pay dlc. bethesda is getting ready to surpass blizzard in the trickery department.
>>341005748
sure but i doubt something like that could ever happen
ss-13 works because it's an open sourced community driven game, with people actively working on it and changing it all the time
rarely are two servers ever the same and it adds to the fun of playing that damn game imo
i'm not sure anyone will ever be able to encapsulate it into another game
>>341006024
but it all looks the same
>>340996287
new vegas is the skyrim of the fallout universe ie the most popular
>>341006024
Not him, but you didn't understand his post at all. And you know, even fallout 3 had some unique shit to decorate with while fallout 4 has absolutely nothing
>>341005235
>all that idle scenery
Holy shit fallout 4 is such a static piece of shit. no one ever uses garnies, uses a typewriter, cooks, or does any real interaction with their environment except Sleep, hammer stuff, pretend to work at work benches, eat magic food that pops up when it needs to, and sit.
And people wonder why theres so much hate on this game, its fucking weak.
>>340999082
what the fuck i hate bethesda now
>>341006173
Consult a doctor, poor guy
>>341005325
What if they're phony vaults? Everything is all thin sheet metal, and wood painted to look like metal.
>>341005063
without lore you could
>put the BOS in any location
>put super mutants in any location
>put deathclaws in any location
>you can basically invalidate the whole entire series, which is what fallout 4 did .
>>341003496
>heck is fucking magic
Jesus fucming Christ I hate you Todd. These children even believe you.
It was a fusion cell, encyclopedia, and some seed packets. It was a fucking joke that vault tec threw in but didn't expect to really be that helpful.
>>340998793
Seeing as how most of the story and such in Bethesda games is garbage anyway, is that such a bad thing?
>>341000672
>We will never see post apocalyptic gangs in Fallout, based off of fast-food chains.
Jdimsa
>>341002356
it's not so much kneeling down and more so that there's nothing he can do about it man
avellone himself never worked on fallout 1 and was co-director of 2 with tim cain
interplay made a number of increasingly poor business decisions that led to zenimax buying the franchise once they declared bankruptcy
>>341006041
>consistent Lore isn't as important as autismlords make it out to be
Take a good look at this fag.
This is the type of person that game devs cater to now.
They only care about THE BIG DETAILS because thinking about stuff that is not in your face is too hard for these retards.
I want casuals to leave my hobby alone.
>>340996287
God, Obsidian fags are such faggots.
>>340999082
Here's the difference: mod authors are going to make their mods work with the DLC because it's offical and not the mod because most of them haven't even heard about it
The mod is also an entirely new vault, as where this is built inside of 111
>>340996220
>How the fuck is building a vault post-war non lore friendly?
How about the fact that building a vault underground would require an insane amount of manpower and technology that isn't there any more, and vault-tec doesnt exist anymore.
>>341004479
skyrim mercy/yield like mod for f4 when?
>>341004990
but at least there's mods for that for skyrim :
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/11932/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/7252/?
http://www.nexusmods.com/skyrim/mods/50292/?
someone needs to port this shit to f4.
>>340995789
but vertibirds existed prewar
>>341006783
Why are you here?
>>340997238
>casuals talking game engines
>>341006173
>most popular
That's not fallout 3.
>>341005748
>>341006108
>Get assigned to Water Purification
>Pumping clean water and clearing out Radroaches
>Retard from Manufacturing comes in and starts stripping down the machines for parts
>Whatthefuck.png
>Knock him out and drag him to Hydroponics
>Feed his ass to the Spore Plants
>Shitcurity comes and throws me in the brig for murder
>Raider Spy uses the lapse in security to let a bunch of Deathclaws into the Vault
>Vault tries to evac through the Overseers tunnel
>Get killed by Bottlecap Mines
>>340994885
Where's my torrent?
everything is better
when you experience it
in a vault
though
>>341002885
More importantly, why?
For what purpose does a vault serve? They were made to survive a bomb, but without a bomb, there's way better ways to make a society.
>>341007490
For?
>>341001703
>ideas
I wanted a religion/belief/sanity system.
You pick a religion or make one.
You get some perks and some conditikns you need to do or triggers or something.
Like, you horde prewar tech. You lose sanity every time you break down something prewar. You gain sanity every time you scavenge something. Etc.
You need to keep this up to function optimally, start taking penalties .
Or you're a raider. You need to kill people and hang them on meat hooks and take drugs.
the lore was already dead. feels bad.
>>341000672
LE NUKA MEME REMEMBER GUYS?
LE THUMBS UP MAN!
WANNA SHOOT SOME GUNS MADE OF DRIFTWOOD AND RUST?
Fuck Im so disappointed with Fallout 4. Bethesda has no idea why people liked their games in the first place.
>>341003802
>Nobody would build a settlement with ladders.
And nobody would build settlements in 90% of the fucking places that one can build settlements in in Fallout 4. Or would they build shitty ass walls and not fix up broken glass windows.
>Everyone knows how to use military grade laser cannons yet aren't trained in any type of carpentry
Seriously this is retarded logic.
>>340996515
Obsidian are basically the cucks of the whole industry.
>>341007582
A better fallout
>>341008140
>cucks
Nah, more like whores. They get paid for this, after all.
>>341003317
>the pickle ticklers
oh my god
i love it
Why are people so fucking upset about this?
If you don't like it, then don't buy it and don't play it. It's as easy as that.
Let other people enjoy what they want, my god.
>>341003175
In my vault, I have removed all people of color so that only the white people are left. Any the come along that aren't white I turn them away right after I let them in.
>>341003791
Bad Rats.
>>341002885
>>341006854
You're the same kind of guys who complain that the world of Fo4 isn't completely civilized and advanced, right? I'm going to save this thread, it's hilarious.
>>340997750
>he doesn't play post-apocalyptic sims
>>341006041
Holy shit kill yourself.
>>341009141
Todd pls
>>340997171
>New Vegas is not that great of a game.
That's fair, it was decent.
>It was buggy, it looked like shit,
True, true.
>the voice acting was shit,
Other games have better voice acting to be sure, though they're unfortunately rare. I wouldn't call it shit though, believe me there are other things that deserve the insult. It's your opinion, however, and I have no right to force my own on your's.
>the mechanics were even shittier than Fallout 3
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU F
>>340996287
Who the fuck even wants remasters? Do these people not use mods?
I'm warily expecting steam to shove the skyrimHD dick down my throat and fuck my mod setup.
>>341006230
>And people wonder why theres so much hate on this game, its fucking weak.
Let's be honest anon, the hate comes from us and a few others. Everyone else, the normie, does not care. They want the quick and easy experience and rather not bother with the lore or logic of the entire game.
>>341002890
Because it was a pseudo 50s style. The lore of the game is crazy per se. You have fucking 80ies weapons and assault rifles and a fucking deser eagle in a ''50ies'' game.
>>340996528
>New engine
Hey retard. Every Bethesda game since borrowing has run on the gamebryo engine. New Vegas and fallout 4 run on the SAME engine. Shit, fallout 4 and fucking MORROWIND run on the same engine
>>341008929
This is /v/ and to a bigger extent, 4chan, where literally the worst people in every single aspect come to talk. No matter what you talk about no matter what you like, someone hates it and will tell you so
>>341010119
Morrowind is 64-bit, Holy shit, Beth was so advanced in 2002
I havent played the DLC yet but is it actually true that Far Harbour is larger than Shivering Isles, Or is just Morgan Webb shilling out of her ass?
>>341010221
The same console commands from MORROWIND work in fallout 4
>>341010251
It isn't anywhere near as big
>>341009692
It also stomps on the lore
>>341005186
>taking a man's mannequin
Truly there are people worse than the nukes still alive
>>341001674
Played FO4 for a few hours. Got to the nuclear sea or whatever. Got me thinking about the Long Mile.
Downloading New Vegas as we speak.
>>341004601
Because none of it is cool here?
Why do they even bother when modders routinely out preform their paid DLC?
The next fallout game should be just the engine and SDK and let the modders handle the rest.
They could probably do it cheaper, ahead of schedule and without bugs.
>>341010894
Because normies don't mod.
all of this has finally got me to uninstall Fallout 4. the nightmare is over.
>>341010251
No lol, it was smaller than Dragonborn.
>>341010251
Smaller than Solstheim from the Dragonborn DLC, Todd said so himself before the release of the DLC.
Morgan and Adam are fucking shills, no surprise there
>>341011010
welcome back brother.
>>340999670
Either not trapped in the past (alpha as fuck) or hiding the fact that one day soon, he'll stop just standing over Todd's bed, breathing deeply for hours, and just kill the manl- I mean tall and attractive cunt once and for all.
>>341011601
Yes, now I will put another 400 hours into NV.
You're basically just clearing out and expanding on Vault 111, what's the big deal? Not that much different from you building generators, laser turrets, water purification and pretty much building a whole fucking town's worth of structures yourself already.
>>341008929
We're nerds and saw a beloved franchise get turned into silly bullshit. We grew up with Fallout so it means something to us. Bethesda Fallouts are the Star Wars prequels for us.
>>340998510
I have made a few mods. Got a few thousand downloads. Not making anymore until the GECK is out.
They are intentionally delaying as you said. They know full well that modders would have made better versions of their sub par dlc for free.
>>341005154
Literally the only acceptable explanation for any of why Boston is how it is is that the Glowing Sea kept radioactivity so high for so long that the area was uninhabitable by anything other than mutants up until a few decades before the game.
I was on my knees begging for this to be the explanation somewhere in the game, but, as usual, Todd denied me. "It just works," Anon.
>>341012850
well, at least in that part of it you can make up your own back story. unlike the PC.
>>341009850
Mods can't solve the crippling limitations of a 32bit exe in an era where almost everything is running at 64bit.
>>341010894
Because people will eat anything fallout up at this point. Why else would they continue the workshop dlc series.
>>340994885
your absolutely right.
but i dont care. at all. because i am stoked to make fucking vaults. as far as i'm concerned Bethesda's fallout is absolute shit writing 3 and 4.
I can't really consider them canon with the classics.
So this changes nothing for me.
>>341005154
This is really a game where you just have to ignore a lot, turn off your brain and just enjoy. Like, I mean, have you seen all the shit with Peter Hines or what ever his name is?
The whole team feels like they're more interested in the little things, the little back stories, like some of the things you can see with notes scattered around and things layed out in certain areas to show a story with items or what ever.
Which is nice, but then the whole fucking game seems to be like that. Nothing story wise or other wise is thought out past a certain point. Why are raiders from 3 hours running distance away harassing a "settlement" of 2 people, when like right next door from viewing distance is another set of raiders? Everything in this game is pretty much half assed, there's nothing you can do about it.
>>341009992
You're kidding right? The only game to featured modern day weapons was the god-awful BOS.
Not saying that the designs aren't moronic, but it's not COD shit.
>>340994885
>T-60 power armour
>Norwegian ghouls that haven't eaten in hundreds of years
>kid in fridge
>pre war jet
The lore was never alive to begin with
>>340994885
Lore has died with Vault 95
>pre-war Jet
>>341013659
>>Norwegian ghouls that haven't eaten in hundreds of years.
They're raiders tho, not ghouls.
A tribe of them that kept alive through fishing and shit.
>>341010582
>New Vegas stomps on the lore.
Fuckin how?
>no weapon dlc
I know it'll probably come with nuka world but still
>>340997082
Just remember youre one of the reasons why this place is so shitty.
>>341014053
>everyone's living in run down buildings and tin shacks
>when fallout 1 & 2 established that the west is far more civilized than that
>Build working conveyor belts
Wow that has the most useless thing
>>340996528
Of course not, which is why they need to make a Fallout 4 about the NCR conquering the West.
>>341003745
It's okay to go outside every once in a while Anon. Just ask your mom before you go around the block, okay?
>>341006854
>a vault underground would require an insane amount of manpower and technology
Yeah if only there was a group that had all of that underneath some building like, I don't know, a university? They could call themselves "The Club" or "The Institute"
Or maybe if there was an army floating around in a giant blimp who horde technology and wear armour that gives them super strength
If only...
Take a step back and just look at this DLC. These are just the foundations to make sex mods even easier. We should be happy that Bethesda finally knows their audience.
>>341014858
>A shithole in the desert
>Not living in run down buildings and tin shacks
Take a long walk across the Mojave and see what I mean.
>>341016171
please explain
>>341005393
WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT ANIMAL CAGES? FOR WHAT FUCKING PURPOSE?
>>341016171
Conveyor belts? the trap cages from Wasteland workshop would be a better foundation for sex mods.
I've wanted this since day one, I just hope vault 111 can be edited.
>>340999670
He just Let Go.
>Vault 13 costed 61500000+ dollars to make
>It took 7 years to build
Repairing an old vault sounds okay,I think it even happened at some point in the series,but building one from scratch is just simply not a one man job.
>>340997695
>FORGET ABOUT THOSE MORBID EXPERIMENTS
You mean the stupid bullshit they invented for 2 that really doesn't make sense in any context?
>>340994885
Dont forget
>pre war ruins
>pipe pistols in drawers, safes and cabinets
>>341018878
it's been there since FO1
>>341000057
>>341003904
console peasants lol
>>341013475
>revolver cylinder
>and a magazine
>revolver cylinder
>and what looks to be a slide
>rifle
>hand grip is way behind the centre of mass, ensuring your rifle is going to unwieldy as fuck to hold
>revolver action, which allows for escaping gas where the cylinder joins the barrel, ensuring you lose a ton of energy on every shot
>revolver cylinder has a fuckoff massive gap where the cylinder meets the barrel, giving maximum possibility of fouling or even catastrophic failure caused by misalignment
>revolver action
>short as fuck trigger-pull, meaning either your revolver is on a hair trigger and even a slight bump could set it off, or you need the grip strength of the fucking mountain to fire it
w h a t
>>341019428
/k/ pls
>>340995880
it's a fun game
if bad story made a game bad, 90% of jrpgs would be out
besides, let's face it, fallout was never a 'serious' game. the only 'serious' and "OH MY GOD SO WELL WRITTEN" game was new vegas. the problem is this generation of /v/ grew up on New Vegas and never played the old fallout games.
Hell, I never fucking played the old fallout games (except a bit of FO1, and man the writing was bland as fuck). But I've read enough of the bible to know that FO had the most fucking retarded shit possible.
>talking deathclaws
>talking plants
Come the fuck on. Fallout wasn't serious until Obsidian made it serious.
>>341004623
Can't tell if this looks great or ugly as sin, but the performance issues will be real and there'll still be people complaining they're thirsty, hungry, and can't grow crops for shit because the wasteland is so dead.
>>341019428
revolver magazine
>>341010221
>you can't upgrade your engine binaries
>>341016793
>changing the subject
>>341019626
>talking shit about talking deathclaws
Talking deathclaws aren't shit, they're the shit.
There wasnt all that much this year, but for me it still this feller that makes me smile a little.
As a Bethdrone a new updated Skyrim for free, sure. Nukaworld seems cool. Shelter might be fun?
Prey/Quake/Dishonored seems cool.
Theyre still the only studio that have something, maybe besides BF1.
Lots of little (and big) things bugged me about Fallout 4.
But the slip-up that was the metaphorical straw to break the camel's back was no visible holstered weapons.
>>341019626
People don't hate F4 because of the story. They hate it because its a terrible RPG with zero depth.
And not being serious is different to breaking the cannon for no reason
>>340999190
>Fallout New Vegas's central theme is about letting go
He's right, guys. It's over.
>>340994885
fuck the lore, I want to build my own vault
>>340994885
>story in games doesn't matter
>STOP RUINING THE STORY BY ADDING GAMEPLAY MECHANICS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>340996678
Nah, 1,2 and NV obviously aren't. No one gives a shit about lore anymore, it's a normie game
>>340994885
>pre-war stuff is still laying around on the shelves in shops
>nobody took it in TWO CENTURIES
What lore? There is no lore, it's just a funny survival game with zombies
>>341020107
>Gameplay mechanics
>Implying settlements change the game in any meaningful way at all
Oh look, this bumblefuck I set to send supplies from A to B is sending supplies from A to B. He said hello to me!
Why the fuck would a bunch of post-war, east-coast savages know how to build a fucking vault when they can't even build a town?
>>341004601
>make shit up as they go and run with it and nobody complains as long as it's cool
Yeah it really shows, that's why nobody takes them seriously.
>>341020336
they're fun
i built a massive fort in sanctuary
it's great
>Not settling in the still working vault 111, 60 meters from Sanctuary
Fallout is dead. If you enjoyed it, it is better to just let it go and move on. Bethesda doesn't make games for their fans. Bethesda makes games for the lowest common denominator.
>>341021386
fallout 4 is fun senpai
try... not turning grenades into mini nukes
there's a lot of big problems and there's a lot of good shit too
>>341010251
Is that suit a mod?
>>341018969
There is a prewar magazine with the cover about how homemade pipe weapons are being very popular in Detroit.
>>341021506
It isn't fun. It's splashing in a paddling pool filled with diarrhetic water.
>>341020515
Congratulations, no one in the game will ever acknowledge it and raiders will just spawn inside your settlement even if you have 999 defese and a bunch of walls because their spawn points are fucking shit
Not to mention that settlers never interact with your or each other, they're there just to farm or sleep
Go play minecraft and you'll have a much better time.
>>341022356
yeah it's no minecraft killer
but once you learn how to build shit it's cool as fuck
first playthrough i didn't do shit and just built prefab houses, first thing i did playthrough 2 was build a massive fort, playthrough 3 i just built a huge three story house (leaning on a house roof) with potted plants and lights everywhere for myself.
>>341007073
Actually, they didn't.
They were developed by the Oil rig Enclave, same as with the Advanced power armor.
http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Vertibird
>>341009992
>Fifties-ies
>>341022540
>50 ies
>fiftiesies
>not fifty - ies
congratulations, you're as retarded as he is.
>>341019626
You didn't play the originals, and you should. Their writing is better than NV, and the bible isn't completely canon.
If you're going to judge a game's writing by playing a "bit" of it you're clearly retarded
>>341007656
>It's just a game, who cares about realism
>>341022673
>c at the beginning at the sentence
>lower case
You're retarded too.
>>340994885
>wood steel and rubber are the resources needed to create a nuclear bunker
>>340994885
>"lore" is above gameplay
When will you retards die?
>>341022743
all the dialogue i saw felt dry and generic. it was "a post apocalyptic role playing game". that's it. it was interesting, but it wasn't dune or any novel worth reading. the text just felt cut, dry, and emotionless.
>>341022937
If you can't create a solid game around the lore without breaking it over and over until you have a splintered mess, you're an inept developer and should consider selling the IP to someone who actually likes it.
>>341023006
Where did you stop playing?
>>341023149
In this case ignoring the lore makes it a much better game. Deal with it.
>>340999190
Im repeating this like a parrot to no effect.
It reminds me of small child when it sees some obvious blunder made by an adult that makes them scream out about it and then they proceed to strut around like its life defining event.
Do NOT consult the lore of fallout 1/2 as its redundant for current games. ALL OF THEM !!!
>>341021904
Do you mean to say a current pre-war magazine states homemade pipe weapons are a popular choice in Detroit?
Either way instead of having pipe pistols available they should have made it 10mm pistols or even the little 356 revolver from Fallout 3. It makes sense to have weapons in safes, desk etc in offices cause the US is at war with China but most people would buy a pistol for self defence rather than making their own gun
>>341023179
i found the second town. forget what it's called.
>>341023213
In this case you're being rampantly fucked by Todd's jewish cock, so more power to you I guess.
Apologies for having standards.
>fallout 4
should have been another game, because it isn't fallout. they ruined the series.
>you can build your own vault
>still can't build a fence that doesn't look like it was made by a blind autistic child.
>>341022937
So when you walk out of the vault thats made out of diamonds and pig shit wearing your vault suit of crayons you should be immediately be crowned godking of humanity and elves before getting on your flipflop powered boat and sailing off into three sunsets?
Thats what having no lore or story means.
>>341001674
Fallout 4 is better then FNV.
>>340994885
lmao you care about lore?
It's a fucking video game, not some great work of literature, it - like any other video game - has about the literary value of a Danielle Steele novel, actually that's probably an overstatement. If you want lore read a fucking science fiction/fantasy novel, if you want gameplay play a game.
>>340994885
>300 years after the bombs fell
>The world is still a dump
The game was shit to begin with.
>>341023316
>it isn't fallout
jesus christ would you kids fucking stop
go play fallout 1. go play fallout 2.
the series only got "serious" and "well written" with new vegas. new vegas was the only fallout game that wasn't "fallout"
>>341023292
Junktown?
Jesus Christ, you're not even 3 hours into the game and you already gave up?
Yeah, it IS supposed to be bland, for now, until you get to the hub or necropolis.
How can you be so bad at a fucking videogame? My 14 year old cousin already completed Fallout 1 and 2, and a supposed 18 or older person who already played other (shittier) fallouts can't even play 3 hours of the first on? You gotta be underage
>>341023597
lies: the post
>>340994885
How come no one has mentioned this is literally just an extension of the extremely hated settlement building mechanic?
>>341023661
Underage: the post
I first played Fallout 1 and 2 when I was 8 years old.
>>341005273
Which one is goo in your opinion ?
>>341023798
lies: the post
>>341023894
>>341023661
butthurt: the post
>>341023956
lies: the post
>>341024008
Yeah, you're underage and I found out, now go cry about it on reddit, kid
>>341023597
it's boring as fuck, man
i don't really see much reason to wade through it's uninspired gameplay when i have so many better written and more accessible current-gen games to play
i only really played FPS / Nintendo / Racing games as a kid. grew up on far cry (and half-life and quake 2 and unreal tournament, since my dad had good, but outdated, taste)
>>341023307
>preferring story to gameplay is having standards
>>341024123
>Twisting my words because you lack the mental capacity to see things any other way
You can have both, you fucking goon.
>>340999560
it's fucking horse armor all over again.
>>341024204
Not in this case. It's simply impossible. And they chose gameplay, which was the right call ina fucking game.
>>340994885
THere's already a mod on the Nexus that let you do that kek.
>>341024098
lies: the post
>>341024117
>grew up on far cry
Yeah, that explains it, you're just an ADHD 00's baby who can't stand combat that isn't full of explosions and "AWESOME GRAPHIX" shit.
I love fps games too, but " better written and more accessible current-gen games to play" is a fucking lie, Fallout is one of the best written RPGs ever, at least the first one was.
You're just a shitter with no taste
>>341024262
Fine, I'll bite again. Why is it impossible?
Pre-war Jet? Why not some other bullshit drug that isn't already known to be a post-war innovation?
Pre-war vertibirds? Why not some simple carriers?
I'm not even going to contend the BoS point because they've fucked them so thoroughly as it is.
The answer is simple - Bethesda is lazy. They're so lazy that they'll take assets from era B to use in era A to save time.
>>341024404
actually i vastly preferred quake 2 / UT / hl1 to it
but sure thing mang
>>341001294
>it doesn't matter what the script says as long as i can shoot radroaches and quip with my companions
I know someone already replied to you saying the same thing, but I just wanted to do the same, to let you know that there's at least 2 people in this thread that think you're a cunt.
>>341024098
lies: the post
>>341024610
Stop pretending you grew up on the 90's
I grew up with those games, and I love Fallout to death
I still have the Unreal Gold and UT99 CDs
Also Civ II, Simcity 2000, Jagged Alliance, Starcraft, Command and Conquer, Fallout 1,2 and Tactics. This is just from a glance at my shelf.
You're underage and you know it.
I just need to look at your post as whole to prove it:
You don't even capitalize your sentences as if you were using and IM service
You use words like "mang"
You keep spouting the games your dad played as if you did too.
You prefer "modern, "better written" more accessible games".
That or you're just retarded
>>341024482
Jet doesn't even work like it does in previous games
It's fucking Turbo from New Vegas
but then again Turbo still comes from Jet so they can't use that either
>>341025027
>you don't capitalize your sentences
you don't capitalize sentences
opinion descarted
How did we go from this
>>341025138
>descarted
>>341025178
Why are they aiming like they're on a controller, when all the prompts are clearly KBM
>>341018516
>tfw sole survivor is automatically the strongest protag in the series because he's got minecraft steve levels or retarded strength and carpentry skills.
>>341025219
>>341025138
B T F O
T
F
O
Enjoy your ban, kid
>>341019127
No it wasn't.
>>341025178
To this
>>341025448
they might be using controller with pc but that's so dumb
>>341000672
Bioshock did the amusement park well & serious.
>>341019127
No, the vaults in 1 weren't "social experiments VAULT DWELLERS GET PRANKED!"
The vault was just a secure vault.
>>340996220
What's the point when the bombs have dropped already anyway? kek
>>340999662
The ones on the nexus don't display weapon mods, it merely replaces your weapon with the base weapon on the display. Hopefully it will be fully fleshed out on the dlc.
Seven hundred...eight hundred...nine- Oh, /v/! I didn't see you there. How's it going? Did you like my presentation? Sorry, I couldn't be on stage. There were fan girls and coke lines back stage and Petey-boy drew the short straw this time. I'm sure you noticed our new workshop content. With all the positive feedback we've gotten from the community on our workshop additions, we really wanted to make these stand out for you guys even. You can build an entire vault! Totally epic, right!? Did you catch the sorting machine too? Finally you can organize all of your equipment without even lifting a finger. I think our DLC has added an entire new genre to the game. We're basically Factorio, and a badass visceral combat/adventure/crafting experience in one package! If any of you haven't taken the plunge into the wasteland, now's the best time to get into Fallout 4, for PS4 and Xbox One.
>>341026123
>>341025546
Necropolis
Does anyone know how much the DLCs will cost?
>>341003317
Vipers and Jackals actually had quite a bit of backstory with the NCR, much like the Khans.
what if the dlc is actually a pre-war experiment on a vault that's residents are linked to VR machines and are told to build their own vaults
>>341026289
Just a malfunction, it wasn't on purpose in the first game.
The experiment angle was a retcon.
>>341005235
those homemaker lights don't actually light up, while bethesdas ones work properly.
>>341016793
It's a desert shithole, and the dam looks nice.
>>341026491
It's a shame none of it was reflected in NV. Recognizing their near non-existence maintained only by NCR sluggishness, you'd think they'd be more willing to talk instead of make themselves a nuisance worth hammering down.
>>341026418
$20 for nuka, $5 for the workshop crap,
>>341025027
you need to chilax your titties little boy
Come up with better DLC ideas like the other Fallout games DLC.
Enclave Moonbase: Board a brotherhood rocket and fight commies and Enclaves in Space. There is also a vault on the moon that only has Dogs in it.
>>340994885
its
a
fuCKING
VIDEO GAME
>>341027574
>it's okay if it's shit, it's just a game bro
>>341027365
But anon! Todd told us they do a GAME JAM to design dlc THEY want to go in to the game!
That's how they made NUKA WORLD™
>>341027763
You sound like a hostage. Let them go Todd. Free them.
>>341013475
Have you actually played any of the fallouts before 3?
There was a desert eagle in fallout 1, and fallout 2 had P90s and a bunch of other modern guns
>>341020119
Do not put Fallout1/2 in same sentence as NV.
New Vegas is New Vegas, fallout is just franchise stamp on that one.
>>341025501
will do, thanks bruv
>>341028793
pfft
>rpg codex shitters coming out of the wood works, after shitposting bethesda for years, to beg bethesda to do the same to their precious shitty outsourced version of fallout that literally nobody wants
>>340994885
The game is/was always shit so who cares
>>341028021
Tacticool modern weapons vs retro futuristic weapons
>>340996287
Gary 32 nice. I see that guy all the time
>>341029967
There still hasn't been a Fallout that gave me my classic super-chunky assault rifle design.
You know, those giant, oversized, blocky machine guns you see in Sci-Fi stuff that are all square and large because the size implies upgraded firepower?
I want one of those in a Fallout game. classic cyberpunk fare.
Pic related.
>>341029967
m8 the tacticool modern weapons have been there since the beginning.
I do agree that they should be cut though and without the 50's aesthetic Fallout is just a Mad Max knockoff
>>341020336
It has been over 200 years.
The East coast is now producing vaults while the NCR on the west coast is struggling with cosplayers.
The setting is post post apocalyptic not post apocalyptic.Get your shit together west coast you are shaming the country.
>>341031803
West coast has functioning systems of government all vying for control, the east coast is still being bumraped by Brotherhood cosplayers and having difficulty propping up their scrapmetal shacks.
>Can finally build vault 120
YES
E
S
>>341032018
>Jojofags ruining Space Dandy
>>341029967
>dat green on the drum mag
is that meant to be camo? lol
I wish there was more variety in the newer games too as far as modding goes, aesthetically anyway
Lets not forget the new assault rifle either
>>341032018
vault 420
>OMG BETHESDA WHY DO YOU SUCK SO MUCH DON'T YOU KNOW IT'S BEEN 200 YEARS WHERE'S THE ORGANIZED GOVERNMENTS AND BUILDINGS AND CONSTRUCTION WORK WHY IS EVERYTHING STILL A MESS I MEAN JEEEESUS
BUT THEN
>OMG BETHESDA WHY DO YOU SUCK SO MUCH IT'S THE POST-APOCALYPSE WHY WOULD ANYONE EVER HAVE THE TOOLS TO MAKE VAULTS EVER AGAIN I MEAN JEEEEESUS
Unpleasable faggots, the lot of you.
>>341002418
The game takes place in fall. There's dead leaves under the trees, so obviously the trees are still alive. There's just no seasons because...?
>tfw never finished fallout 4 even though I got the Pipboy edition
Man 2015 was nothing but the year of disappointment.
>>341031935
Building vaults
vs
Putting someone in charge because they have "A theoretical degree."
Having a flying aircraft carrier
vs
Being beaten by someone who is hiding in their stick fort when the NCR has Mini nukes.To be fair they bad guys do have spears.
West coast not best coast.
>>341032447
>Bethesda repackaging and selling a mod
>vs
>Mr Fantastic, the brightest mind in the wastes
>BoS fanwanking
>vs
>Superior Legion sharpysticks
>>341032447
>Having a flying aircraft carrier
You mean the Brotherhood's airship? You know those are from the West coast, right?
>>341032182
The green is just a colour error that happens sometimes with the old Fallouts
>>341032401
There's a difference between livable settlements and fucking vaults.
>>341032626
They were of such poor west coast quality a stiff breeze downed them.
It took the superior east coast to make it workable.
>>341015796
it only looks bad because bethesdas vegetation assets look like shit
>>341032941
nah man the player characters from the pre-war! man he got this! he got this, nigga! man tinker tom helpin too, lookie him go...
More East coast Beast coast.
Autistic comic book nerd makes a robo army because bored.
vs
The brightest minds on the west coast could only make robots that are scorpion shaped with laser tails.
A repurposed Mr Handy creates a universal cure and make medical breakthroughs while walking around.
vs
Making healing powder and tourniquets.
West coast has Desert Ranger Armor
vs
Well that is top tier armor so I will concede that one.
>>341025178
Combat in the old games was dog shit though
>>341033879
>Desert Ranger Armor
Finally this anon is starting to make some sense
Who will do the hole in the wall vault ?
>>341022821
fucking infinity space m8
Why is there an extra fuel tank for the robot butler in your home? It survived 200 years with no maintenance, but you bought a nuclear reactor for something that will out live you?
>>341003791
>We want the autistic Minecraft player audience even though we know the autistic players won't buy it and will write 20 page articles explaining why Minecraft's system is far superior to Fallout 4
>>341022535
>The Vertibird was still in the prototype phase when the Great War struck in 2077, preventing it from entering full military service which was scheduled for 2085
>>341032941
Did anyone say the post-war vaults had to be up to snuff with nuclear war survival standards?
>>341002356
but that's not tim cain
>>341001674
adding animations and assets for stocks will probably save the loverslab guys a few hours
>>341035479
Well regardless, they are, judging by that trailer
>smooth metal walls
>immaculate lines and angles
>>341023890
1 for story
2 for gameplay and content (also memes)
>>341025492
>implying that Terminator Courier is not the strongest fallout protagonist
huh?
>>340999238
>non-canon easter eggs
>actually lore
well memed
>>341034994
>autistic
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G2y8Sx4B2Sk
Just saying, autism is a diagnosis where the neurons connect in such a way that enhances your capabilities to think logically, at the cost of learning social skills in the same "innate" way as neurotypical people. In other words, a truly autistic person might have issues communicating with others, but will actually show amazing feats of intelligence. For example, a 9-year-old autistic child could easily strike an IQ score of 147, which clearly means they're a genius! (That was my result when I was diagnosed.)
Now, with examples of real-life celebrities; Einstein is often rumored to have high-functioning autism. Bill Gates is confirmed to have it. Same goes for Mark Zuckerberg. Finally, the creator of Pokémon (one of the BEST-SELLING franchises at Nintendo), Satoshi Tajiri, is also confirmed to have high-functioning autism.
If I need to copy-paste this on every damn thread of this site for people to understand a word, believe me I will.
--Too long? Didn't read?--
Autistic people are often smarter than those who are not.
>Nuka World dlc releases
>yfw they squeeze Synths and the Children of Atom into the plot again
>>341036654
Yeah too bad that didn't pan out for you huh champ.
>>341035164
>preventing it from entering full military service
So basically, the vertibird we see during the evacuation shouldn't be there.
>>341036761
Killed the lot before, I will do it again if I have to. No one gets in the way of my Wasteland Harem.
>>341004990
That's because they were originally going to let you be able to tie up your enemy once they surrendered. They didn't the "time" to implement it but already had the surrender animation in the game and never bothered to remove it. Not surprising Bethesda putting out an unfinished product.
>>341036654
There's a much better word for people that think logically and not with emotions.
It's called having the INTP personality.
>>341036654
so basically,
>i'm autistic
lmfao
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