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>>340963321
FUCK YOU! STOP BEING EXCITED ABOUT SHIT!
That trailer looked great. Fucking VISOR is back
>>340963663
No it was just shown
>Class based
>>340963321
Too fucking bad it is a Overwatch clone.
No one asked for this
>>340963321
NOW WITH WAIFUS, SEE THROUGH WALLS AND CLASSES
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-6fQyNkZo
>Quake
Neat!
>With heroes
Oh.
I love all that cool gameplay
RIP OVERWATCH
>>340963321
wew lad another overwatch like game. When will it end?
>muh super special abilities
There goes an old classis. Making a bastard hybrid to please the COD/BF/Halo crowd, with super special press "X" to perform special move gameplay...
>>340963724
what..?
shut up cole
120hz confirmed, thank god.
>High performance is critial
So, another Quake 3 reskin coming?
>>340963321
More like Quake 3, not Quake 1.
Who /QuakeLive/ Here?
I havent played for about a year but im going to try this new shit.
Dont care if they change shit tb.h. Im ready for some fresh cancer.
PC ONLY
>120 FPS
UNLOCKED FRAME RATES
>FAST GAME PLAY
KILL YOURSELF OVERBABBIES
>>340963321
So this sounds like Overwatch .
PC ONLY
Oh wait it's class based.... fuck.
Quakewatch
HAHAHAHAHAAHAHHA
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>"We don't lock our framerate to 60"
Neat but is this "announcement" worthy?
>>>>>>>"we lock it to 120 fps instead"
>esports
>literally quakewatch
why
>>340963819
GOOD! I hope it is. I also hope Diablo IV gets revealed and its an Overwatch clone too.
>unique attributes and abilities
STOP
literally why even bother with the quake license?
>old players will hate this shit
>the new overwatch/moba fags don't even know what quake is
>class based
>diverse skills
It's fucking TF2.
>wanting a MP after the shit that was doom MP
idiots
>>340963321
Sorry old man... not your Quake.
>>340964048
Rip quake. Blizzard unleashed their game first and Quake won't be out to combat it's popularity fast enough to matter.
Quake champions will be considered a rip off of Overwatch until it dies.
I'll probably give it a pass, honestly.
>>340964286
>UNLOCKED FRAME RATES
Why did he say 120 instead of 144 if it's unlocked?
>MOBA hero class system
Go fuck yourselves forever. I hope all of you burn in fucking hell.
>>340963845
>It's like Overwatch with muscular husbandos
>>340964492
Considering they were firing shots at overwatch then I'm pretty sure that's tick rate they're talking about.
PC only
as it should be
>>340964942
Don't forget waifus! Remember the waifus in the original? Like... the eyeball guy?
so they tried their elder scroll MMO, which failed, now they gonna try a card game (heartstone) and another arena shooter (overwatch)
What's next?
>>340963321
black fgc is the worst yooooo lmfao u salty
fuck off
>>340965213
>class based
let the consoles have it
>>340964128
>Making a bastard hybrid to please the COD/BF/Halo crowd
More like to compete with the recent moba-like FPS
>>340964680
Diablo wouldnt be a overwatch clone. It's a Blizzard ip.
Blizzard will release info on Overwatch characters in heroes of the storm.
>>340964826
D44M's mp was outsourced though
>>340963321
>characters
>abilities
I never asked for this.
>>340963321
why do you faggots hype over shit?
>>340963792
10/10
>that gay ribbon
I wonder, did he have to rush out to buy one or do they just have a stash of emergency activism ribbons?
>>340965219
Yeah but it's id. They fucking ARE arena shooters.
>>340965392
>Making a bastard hybrid to please the COD/BF/Halo crowd
don't involve halo with this shit...maybe halo 4
>>340965482
That's what the hol up was
>>340965219
Whatever they want... their fanbase will eat up and shit bethesda dumps out.
>class based
>no singleplayer
fuck you so hard, bethesda
>>340965217
There were some qts. Mynx, Hunter and the one female Anarki. And some gross girls like the fat chick
>>340965482
Neither. The shooting was planned and is all part of the global conspiracy to further push anti-gun and pro-LGBT agendas, all at the same time.
Open your eyes sheeple etc.
IT'S OVER
BETHESDA OFFICIAL WINS E3
>>340965881
CLASS BASED
I'm glad they're making all this MOBA trash with a cartoony aesthetic, it makes it easy to identify and avoid
>>340965881
are you implying this quake will be an arena fps
The more he talks about it. The shittier it sounds.
>>340965881
>classes with unique abilities
UT is good but they already fucked up Quake.
>>340965482
they might well have ran out for supplies to make them by hand
>>340963321
my dick got so fucking hard
its a moba you mongs
TODD SPOTTED
>PC exclusive Triple A FPS in 2016
What the hell happened?
>>340966025
I like the fat girl. Her backstory was top tier.
>class based
And it's already fucking ruined. I guarantee this will be casual trash, just like Overmeme.
If this surprised you then you're retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-6fQyNkZo
IT'S HERE LADS
>literally Pixar Presents: Quake The Moba
Can't fucking believe this, what happened to video games? Are they really dead?
>>340964851
i can guarantee they only got the idea for quake champions after hearing about overwatch
>>340966025
>6'6''
Hot damn
i can't wait for all the shills to tell me that this is a real quake game
>no gameplay
what's the point
>>340966668
I wonder what the Doomguy's and Phobos' ultimate will be.Probably Berserker Pack.
>>340966461
It's gonna be f2p shit probably
>people thought that QL was the bottom of the barrel
>>340966949
Yep. thats what I meant.
>>340967213
not him but if they market it enough, people will buy
>>340967012
This is a real quake game
So they heard all the praise for doom bringing back the golden age of fps, and they decide to make fucking quake a moba?
As soon as I saw that guy charging I knew it was over
I guarantee you that if F2P ASS and SHITFAGGOTS were on consoles, they would dominate revenue streams, and even beat PC revenue. The only reason why PC is believed to be so profitable is because these games are largely exclusive to it. Consoles always have been more profitable than PC, and with more microtransaction based games heading to consoles, this will hold true again.
>>340967945
id soft is also developing this so i have hope
>>340967012
i think this looks like moba trash and i love doom 4
what now, bitch?
>>340968472
>champions
of course it's a fucking moba
>>340968730
i was more concerned with you implying the new doom is shit
it's really not
>>340963321
Fuck this shit. I had hopes before watching the trailer. I expected a true Quake sequel.
>>340966461
They shouldn't be using the only thing that's sacred.
>>340963845
I thought nothing could be a worse perversion of a shooter franchise than Halo with loadouts, but they did it, by god, they actually did it.
>quake is known for it's unique heroes
wat
>>340963321
>Starts out with Ranger
YESSSSSSS
>...and the other player characters from Q3A!
NO
FUCKS SAKE
>>340968067
>trying to defend microtransactions
It's like you hate gaming.
>ZERO ROCKET JUMPING IN THE TRAILER
FUCK THIS
>>340969225
Didn't Halo have loadouts at one point?
>>340969389
is that an actual quote
oh yes i remember the ranger and bitterman's classic lines like "HUH, HUH" and "GAAAH"
>>340969450
I was expecting Doomguy and Phobos.And Crash.
>Quake's legacy concludes with it becoming the game it was always meant to be: an Overwatch-style "hero shooter"
What a time to be alive
>>340969538
I never said I defended them, I was just saying that PC gaming being more profitable than console gaming is a myth held up only with microtransactions. If PC was so profitable, then they wouldn't focus exclusively on consoles.
>>340969450
Visor was in it, and he killed the pixie bitch and Ranger.
>>340963321
No singleplayer
Don't care.
So it's basically Overwatch with strafe jumping?
>>340969743
Yes, that's what I'm talking about.
HAHAHAHHA
ENJOY BETHESQUAKE
instead of league of quakefaggots you could have gone with
1. pledged full mod support with a real map editor
2. story-light sp mode built around stopping a lovecraftian horror
3. quake 1 visual style
4. a variety of mp maps and standard game modes
5. mod distribution platform
>>340970403
>>340970062
Don't get me wrong, I loved Quake 3, but I'd much rather have a Quake 1 successor.
>>340970587
>implying it will have advanced movement
>>340970190
I kinda wanted a Quake 1 revival. Shub-Niggurath Lovecraft shit.
is there any gameplay? is this acutally quake or a Nudoom shit?
>>340970587
And rocket jumping
>>340965031
He didn't mention what "hertz" he was referring to, and he mentioned it in the same sentence as graphics.
What if all the different classes had the depth the quake 3 player character, but with different forms of movement and aim?
>>340971338
>implying it will have rocket jumping
You know, if you care so much, why not downvote the video into oblivion then? It's what the COD fans did with COD Infinite Warfare and what a lot of Might Number 9 fans did with the bad trailer. And of course the Ghost Busters trailer. Send them a message that you don't approve of this.
>>340971425
What if the world was made of pudding? Not gonna happen anon
>>340971390
Yeah but 120 hertz followed by saying "uncapped" framerate doesn't make any fucking sense at all, especially given that if they were talking about framerate I figure ID would be able to know it was 144hz
>>340971534
It'll have it. PC only.
Strafejumping is unlikely.
>a moba quake live/3
ew
>>340971595
Yeah that did a lot
>>340971815
anon, he's probably talking about the simulation tickrate
an uncapped framerate means you have interpolation
>>340971860
>It'll have it. PC only.
Those are some tall assumptions.
>>340963321
Its going to be just as bad as DOOM.
>>340972254
Yeah that's literally exactly what I'm telling the other guy.
>>340963321
Oh boy, a bastardized casual piece of shit, aimed at 13 year olds who never played the original games, just like Doom.
The only thing blizzard needs to kill this thing is announcing overwatch going f2p right at its release date
>quake is known for its unique heroes
>>340972176
Put it this way. If nothing's done, then people will just treat it as a loud minority getting mad and nothing more.
>>340972543
So best shooter of the year?
>QUAKE
YES
>CHARACTER-BASED
NO NO NO NO NO NO
>>340972478
Well let's not jump to any conclusions yet. Shit, weapons might be locked to characters or some other comparable insanity.
>>340970936
>q1 visual style
muh dick
>>340972698
Maybe the announcer thought that the character skins of Quake 3 were more than just mere skins
>>340972930
I was so hyped...why are we still here, just to suffer...
They literally had one job.
It should be illegal to not show gameplay footage.
>>340972698
>He did not even flinch while saying that in front of a live audience
Where does Bethesda find these people?
He should be in prison for that
At least it wasn't Quake 2/4.
I wanted Quake 1 though.
fuck you, i am hyped
its pc only, will be fast and maybe it will have mod support
>>340972884
The best disappointment of the year.
I wonder why /v/ insists that FPS games must never have unique characters for multiplayer. Like it's some scared rule that all arena shooters must be made a certain way or else it's shit. If MOBA wasn't a thing, I think it wouldn't get nearly as much hate as it would now.
>>340972848
So exactly the same thing will happen either way? Wowzers.
>>340973670
Quake Snapmap.
>>340971815
>I figure ID would be able to know it was 144hz
Unless by "uncapped" they meant "not capped at 60" and instead capped at 120
>>340973823
snapmap has too little functionality
>>340969943
>bitterman
you mean Bruce Willis right?
>>340973670
its a team based shooter
it wont have mod support
>>340973670
They just announced map and weapon DLC for doom. Take a fucking guess if it will have mod support
>>340974007
That's the point, so they can sell the actual new maps to you.
>>340973823
snapmap and multiplayer on doom were outsourced by some retards who made call of duty ghosts, id focused on singleplayer. This quake will be multiplayer focused by id and has potential to be good. Soooo, mods. There is no way they will repeat the blunder that is snapmap
>>340973781
And then you wonder why SJWs walk all over you. (and in a way, they wonder why they never enact any real changes that benefit all of mankind). You don't fight for what you want. You just sit around and take it. How do you think DLC got as far as it did? Because you didn't care HARD enough to get rid of if. No one said getting what you want is easy. It takes vigilance.
>see quake announcement
>hype as fuck
>it's gonna have classes
just kill me already
>>340974007
I know. The 12 demon limit is murder.
>>340973485
Tim Willits has been with id since the 90s. He is credited as early as Doom 2.
>>340974310
SnapMap was outsourced to the developers/publishers of Please, Don't Touch Anything
>yfw its ASSFAGGOTS
>>340974130
so?
>>340974274
multiplayer and snapmap were outsourced.
>>340973975
If DooM 4 is any indication, it will have a cap of 200 FPS.
>CLASS BASED
Fuck you Bethesda
Fuck you so hard
>>340974354
>And then you wonder why SJWs walk all over you.
They don't walk all over me.
>>340973776
but WHY do shooters need unique characters? Why must everything be customized and personalized so every underage fuckwad can feel like the special snowflake they're always told they are?
Why can't everyone start off on equal footing and the most skilled player or cooperative team win? Why is that a sin so grave it must never even be mentioned in FPS discussion?
>>340974565
>multiplayer and snapmap were outsourced.
So they just accidentally announced that new map DLC that they accidentally made?
They don't want you to have mods because then they can't sell you garbage.
dudes games are made to appeal to normies and normie brains need to have "unique" different playstyles else its trash fuck this world
>>340974565
carmack claimed to work on snapmap, so at some point it was in-house
>>340974310
Carmack made Snapmap before he left id to go work for Facebook.
Now what happened after he left, I don't know.
>>340974481
Then he should have quit his job when Bethesda forced him to do this then.
Bethesda is raping everything holy about FPS games.
>>340974757
stop replying to bait
>>340974354
>How do you think DLC got as far as it did?
The vast majority of people who don't know any better went ahead and supported it, while everyone against it was left in the dust regardless of how much they fought against it due to the fact that they were a minority?
>>340974757
because thats how you get a dead game with no influx of new players and only a few jaded veterans who havent yet moved on with their lives. You can lure in new players with pretty characters and make actual hardcore players stay with good gameplay.
>>340974774
they also have 2 games with some biggest modding communities around, Fallout 4 and Skyrim.
>>340975003
The problem is that there are actually people on /v/ that truly believe that. Take a look at any of the 20 Overwatch threads going on at once for more proof than you'd need in two lifetimes.
>>340968524
THE TURKEY'S A LITTLE DRY
>casual class-based shooter that'll compensate for new players by being easy
I'll pick up the console version sometime I guess
>>340974565
its designed and made for "balanced" gameplay, probably with esports in mind. they are not gonna allow mods
>>340974354
I fought against it and it still happened anyway. Clearly there's something wrong with your method.
>>340963321
>340963321
well I saw the rocket launcher model from Q3 and Visor, who always was one of my favourites
a class based shooter though? goddamnit
>>340975239
>what is cs:go
>what is dota 2
Will laugh my ass off if it has play of the game
>>340975290
You should have downboated more youtube videos.
But, seriously, people sell things people want to people willing to buy them. There's no "fighting" that.
>>340974757
I was more referring to unique character selection like in a fighting game, but with a deathmatch setting in first person. I swear to god I blame MOBAS for making this idea inherently poison because MOBAs got too popular.
Also, there's nothing inherently wrong with what you described either, but there's nothing inherently wrong with unique characters too. Balancing would be a challenge either way.
>>340966461
> multiplayer only
big whoop
>>340975147
>You can lure in new players with pretty characters and make actual hardcore players stay with good gameplay.
But those are mutually exclusive, you can't have both. Case in point, Overwatch. So many threads are filled with actual good players about to drop the game because they are so frustrated with the 'muh speshul snowflake personal character that represents ME that I must always play' faggots are ruining the game for them by not playing intelligently.
>>340971595
if only they started an internet petition! THAT would have should them the error of their ways!!
>>340975408
thats valve and the source engine, every source game has some dumb modding scene with loads of crap because the engine is moddable by default
>>340975534
Actually all the good players are dropping the game because it's a poorly balanced technical mess with terrible maps.
>>340975534
lol the characters arent turning off players its shitty low skillcap appeal to normie gameplay
>>340971125
LITERALLY EVERYONE WANTED THIS
THERE IS NOT A SINGLE QUAKE FAN WHO DIDN'T WANT ELDRICH
>>340975534
>implying hardcore players would play a team based shooter in pubs
overwatch has shit tickrate, lies about fov and pretty much is made by people who dont know jack shit about online fps games, thats why hardcore players leave
also
>actual good players
>on /v/
>>340974757
>but WHY do shooters need unique characters?
Because it gives variety
if you have 10 different classes you have 10 different ways to play, and each class needs to play in 10 different ways depending on what class you're currently fighting
singleplayer games figured out that enemy rosters are more fun than just one type of enemy back in like 1980
>Class based
>More info in the coming months
I was hyped, but now I'm dubious
>>340975534
Overwatch's problem has more to do with balancing, lack of map variety and the hard counter system. Because right now, that's a real issue. What you describe is bad players being obnoxious and that's been a problem since you've been able to play online.
>>340975896
dont forget the 50% win rate meme
>>340975927
You don't need variety if the gameplay is good enough.
Or, what if they were just clever and made lots of different gamemodes? Or let a modding community do the work for them?Oh wait, I'm describing quake 3.
>>340975828
>>340975829
>>340975896
So what you're saying is that it's completely impossible to have a skill-based character-driven FPS in this day and age, and any attempt to try and do so will be a colossal failure?
>BOOHOO CLASS BASED
Did you fags not play Quake Wars?
>>340976116
>What you describe is bad players being obnoxious and that's been a problem since you've been able to play online.
Yes but in most games you could be good enough to make up for it, not OW.
>>340976182
No, its just Overwatch is a shitty execution of a pretty solid idea.
>>340975896
Hardcore players are still playing, at least the quake ones are.
Then again, Quakelive is pretty dead, so it's not like they have much choice. I can almost feel their hatred for the game as they play it.
>>340975534
If they were good or smart in the first place they'd never would have supported blizzard by not buying the watered down casual trash that is Overwatch.
Vote with your wallet you dumb cunts.
>>340976178desu I find deathmatch shooters repetitive
>>340976287
No one did, splash damage employee.
I was expecting blasphemous eldritch horrors with on my monitor. I feel grief.
>>340976356
But it's apparently impossible to execute the 'good idea' well. Wouldn't that make it an idealized pipe dream that can't be achieved?
>WHAT QUAKE IS KNOWN FOR: A DIVERSE CAST OF UNIQUE HEROES WITH DIFFERING ATTRIBUTES AND ABILITIES
IM SO FUCKING MAD
HOLY SHIT FUCKING WHY
IM GONNA FUCKING GO TO BETHESDA OFFICES AND SHIT ON EVERYONE'S DESK
THEY'RE LITERALLY SHITTING ALL OVER THE HOLY GRAIL OF COMPETITIVE GAMING
>>340976356
Nice opinion /v/ drone. Overwatch is a great FPS game with large skill gaps and fun. Just wait when ranked comes out and you'll see how bad you are. Even the Quake Overwatch team "Still Here" can't place first with their years of FPS experience.
>>340976182
No. It is entirely possible to make that a reality. Overwatch just isn't that. In fact, you'd be singing a different tune if the new Quake turned out to be "Like Overwatch, except with actual skill required"
>>340976751
>if blizzard failed then no one can do it
TF2 did it pretty well back in the day, but it hopped on e-sport train too early and became a hatfest.
>>340976793
dont worry, denial phase doesnt last too long.
>>340976793
fun is a buzzword that doesn't actually mean anything. You shouldn't use it when describing a game, it shows you have no argument and are grasping at straws in a vain attempt to defend your position.
>>340976751
Wasn't team fortress classic supposed to be good and skill-based?
>>340976182
No, we're saying that overwatch sucks.
>>340976751
So you'd rather they don't try and just remake Quake 3 again?
Because that worked so well with Quake 4 and Quake Live.
So the boogeyman finally came to ruin the last good id franchise
I'll be on quake live
>>340977051
>you'd
>if
I'm glad we're in agreement that this has flopped before it has even come out.
>>340977250
I also like how Overwatch drones have come in here to make this thread about their game.
>DID I MENTION OVERWATCH IS A GREAT GAME AND YOU SHOULD BE PLAYING IT?
>>340977148
Not that anon, team fortress and tf classic both had same problem : few people played them.
>>340977939
team fortress was a popular mod
>>340977465
I'd rather they take what made Quake 3 legendary and give it an overhaul with a few updates and a bunch of new weapons, rather than taking a totally different type of game and slapping Quake on it to get gullible retards who know of the legend that at one point there was this really good game called Quake all those years ago and this will surely be the same thing, revived in modern form and they want to be a part of it.
>tfw neo-id will never make an awesomely chilling survival horror-style reboot of single player Quake because the BR0TAL H4RDC0R3 OLD-SKEWL MAYHEM FRAGFEST crowd has drowned out the game's initial legacy for decades
Quake II was the best Quake.
>remember when a good Quake game was adopted by /v/
nope
>>340978121
kys my man
>"Why didn't I just stay home and have sex with some trannies while playing Overwatch?"
>>340978121
The ironic thing is that Quake 1 managed to do both of those things.
Somebody make a quake III server so I can cry with you
>>340977093
>>340977087
>wah im a negative faggot and shit at Overwatch
Casuals shouldn't have an opinion on FPS games
Did they actually
FUCKING
TURN
QUAKE
INTO AN CLASS BASED SHOOTER?!
REEEEEEEEEEEEE
>class+ability based
Burn in hell bethesda.
YOU CAN GET OTHER GUNS
YOU CAN GET OTHER GUNS
YOU CAN GET OTHER GUNS
>>340963321
WHY WON'T THEY RELEASE ON CONSOLES?? EVERYONE SHOULD BE ABLE TO ENJOY IT.
SELFISH FUCKS
REEEEEEEEEEEE
>mfw fast paced
I'm fucking mad /v/.
Quake is the only game I have ever truly enjoyed. I played Quake, Quake 2, Quake 3, CPM, spinoffs like warsow and similar arena shooters like painkiller (UT is trash), Quake 4, Quakelive and basically nothing else (to any serious degree) for more than a decade.
The more competitive minded people all hopped games to play things like Shootmania, Overwatch, etc. This has made it impossible to play pickups (sitting at just under a month since the last CPM pickup, before that we went 4-5 months). They had a tiny chance to finally unify the spread out as shit arena fps community under the one banner everyone recognizes as the superior series, and they give us this bullshit late to the party overwatch hero fps cancer. I'm fucking done with id. Fuck video games. Please reply "you mad" all you want.
hopefully unique classes are just different skins with different weapons.they wont have overwatch abilites. r-right?
>>340978089
>I'd rather they take what made Quake 3 legendary and give it an overhaul with a few updates and a bunch of new weapons
the quake 3 weapon set was basically as close to geometric perfection as possible, if you just added some new weapons and shit like wall-jumping you'd just get a downgrade from quake and all the oldfags would still complain
![93ec69be7c2cf024f1cd5aa1820ef6e6[1].jpg](https://i.imgur.com/yQvygPi.jpg "93ec69be7c2cf024f1cd5aa1820ef6e6[1]")
>>340978543
The madman
>>340977465
Quake 4 flopped because they screwed up the movement mechanics. Quake Live was a huge success considering how hard and frequently they've jerked around the fanbase since 2009.
>Started out as F2P embedded in your browser (which just seemed hokey and gimmicky)
>moved to stand-alone
>deleted all accounts and became subscription based
>moved to steam
>deleted all accounts again
>removed subscriptions, made the game $10 to play
>FINALLY in 2016 added the ability to mod and have dedicated servers which should have been there from the day the moved to stand-alone.
Yet there are STILL plenty of full CA and duel servers every time I log in.
>>340978732
you madI am too
>>340978121
It's not too late, the Doom team has proven themselves more than capable of doing it.
>>340978930
The map was campgrounds
>>340978778
Press 'Q' to kill 4 people.
>>340978868
>Quake of the Ancients
The new rail looks AWFUL
>>340978535
enjoy you console shooter, it has a few months to live
>>340978732
>tfw Serious Sam 4 saves arena shooters
Can a man believe?
>tfw no new Quake single player game using the original aesthetic and monsters
I hate multiplayer bullshit. Cancer, all of it.
>no strafing
>no bunny hopping
>no rocket jumping
I'm going to end my life, Quake was my childhood and now I'm going to see it raped.
>hero w/ ability-based gameplay
pic related did it right long before FPS-mobas were a thing but I'd still very much prefer a straightforward shooter Quake.
>>340979326
Quake 2 raped Quake
Strogg fags pls go
> quake champions
Oh, so like quake 3 multiplayer , cool, quake murders overwatch in its infancy
> ..with heros
> mfw
>we want you to find a champion to works to your playstyle
>we'll have lots of champions that do lots of different things
It's over.
>>340979483
captures my feelings pretty well too
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>>340978543
>>340978551
You do realize Quake was the originator of class-based shooters, right?
>only one character has rockets
>only one character has shotgun
>only one character has double jump
>>340979483
Just...Why? Why try to cash in on Overwatch with Quake?
>>340979797
That engineer is happy as fuck
>>340979797
TF wasn't designed by committee.
>>340979797
A mod is not Quake.
>>340979797
you mean because of an unofficial mod id software had nothing to do with?
>>340979243
SHITPOST SHITPOST
>>340978543
Yes, they did in 1996, and again in 2007.
>>340963321
But it's not quake, it's q3 arena... which is utter garbage
>>340979797
Overwatch is going to rape Quake, arena shooters are a dead genre
>>340977093
>fun is a buzzword
So, how have the last five years of infamy been for you?
>>340978732
im feel with you bro
Should have known the hero shooter genre wasn't done being in full swing
>>340964128
>There goes an old classis. Making a bastard hybrid to please the COD/BF/Halo crowd, with super special press "X" to perform special move gameplay...
They probably want to differentiate themselves from Doom. If they are going to sell both shooters they had to make one different from the other. So they are expanding on Quake Arena.
>>340979172
>Blizzard game
>Few months to live
ayy
I applaud their gumption much the same as I did for DOOM. There is everything to lose and to be honest a very hard market to try to please. I was proven wrong by DOOM, hopefully the same happens here.
>>340963321
I never thought there would be a blue hair girl in quake.
Why does EVERY ONE has to pander to SJW?
>>340979184
Er, dream on. Serious Sam's multiplayer is known for it's co-op perfection.
The actual multiplayer deathmatch portion was known to be unbalanced garbage. At least for Serious Sam 3. Basically Quake 3 minus anything good.
>>340979797
Yeah and Blizzard invented MOBAs.
>>340979184
Serious sam should stay as far away from arena gameplay as possible
I want the devs to focus on putting as many enemies into a level as possible
>>340979969
>>340980017
>implying mods weren't a fundamental part of what made Quake what it was
t. underage. gtfo
>one of their special abilities is running quickly
So no advanced movement then
>>340978732
>UT is trash
Typical quake babby. Too much mobility for you to master? I'm laughing because my game series is doing a faithful sequel while yours is appealing to casuals.
>>340963321
Seriously, you can see the dude with a railgun having a wallhack ability.
This is going to SUCK.
Hey guys.Class based Quake sounds fun.
>>340980427
Ranger's in it though, , the antithesis of the SJW ideal, and she got her ass killed by Visor to boot.
>>340980570
doesn't change the fact that id didn't make QTF but keep trying
>>340978505
cmon motherfuckers SOMEONE MAKE A Q3 server i want to fucking own all you fags
>>340979184
UT4 has already saved them. It's a well done and proper sequel, much better then UT3. Seems it will be on it's own now that Quake has shot itself in the foot.
>class based
>no strafe jumping
>will probably have loadouts and scoped railguns
and here I thought what they did to Quake Live was bad
why the fuck are mass shootings happening in gay clubs instead of inside bethesda's offices?
Poor Ranger, stuck in infinite deathmatches for 15 years.
>>340980847
Care to share that player count for UT4? I'll wait
>>340980369
lmao
>>340979371
This game actually had a pretty big skill gap too, that's why it was overshadowed by the casual Halo 2. Too bad Quake will be casual as well.
>>340980595
>UT
>more mobile than Quake 3
>not the babby shooter of the two
How are you enjoying Opposite Land?
Reflex is where the shit's at, fuck quake.
Then again reflex is just basically cpma
>>340979797
You realize QWTF was a mod right?
just made this earlier for /vr/
who /wasthere/
SARGE
MAJOR
PHOBOS
DOOM
VISOR
CRASH
What will their ultimate abilities be?PLAY OF THE GAME
>>340976751
What do you expect from "video game developers" who can't do applied math? The only people who probably get a pass are actual engine developers, but they aren't dealing with the design of the game.
>>340980683
It sure does.
>>340980980
It's not even out yet. The problem is they're being slow as fuck and still in fucking alpha. But at it's core it's a surprisingly well made and true sequel.
>>340981014
I guess Smite and Rocket League are dead too then?
>>340980847
>dumb, skilless movement
>gimmicky weapons
>vehicles
daily reminder that UT has always been the ugly stepchild of the arena shooter genre
I'd rather see the genre die than live on through UT
>>340963685
You're a fucking retard. The trailer displayed a wallhack of all things and you fucking morons will still eat this shit up.
>champions
When will this dumb meme end?
>>340981045
I can't hear you over the sound of Quake being ruined and UT still getting proper treatment. Enjoy your raped and dead series.
Hear me out:
What if class based just means they're all the same, except for their abilities.
I mean, they all start with the same gun, all other weapons are arena-pickups, and the only difference is their special ability.
That's okay, right?
And keep in mind that all things from previous Quake games (rocket jumping, strafe jumping, etc.), were all confirmed during the aftershow.
>>340981083
Yes.
And the moddability that id coded into the game, as well as the community that surrounded it, is what made it possible. There would be NO class-based shooters without Quake being what it inherently was.
>>340981450
i certainly wouldn't want to be hi-rez
>>340981014
THERE
ARE
THREE
GAMES
>>340981045
>t-the base movement speed is faster so it's more mobile!
You can speed up UT a little bit and it will be the same. UT has much more movement options, while all you do in Quake is spam bunny hop and strafe jump.
>>340978732
>yfw you can't even strafe in the new quake
>>340981450
Smite is a free moba, and yes - its dead.
Rocket league was FOTM indie gimmick game.
Both of those are not AAA+ games. How does it feel a flagship game of blizzard that has recieved 3 full fledged expansion packs is trumped by a dead mmo and your innovative moba is less popular that early access zombie game that got abondoned by its dev?
>>340980683
>VISOR IS SUPPOSED TO WIN 1V1'S
>JUST PICK A PHOBOS HARD COUNTER!!!
yeah no thanks
this game is dead for me and it isn't even out yet
>>340981583
>Quake literally being dragged to the showers and the remnants of the actual arena shooter fanbase are celebrating the demise of each other's franchises.
>>340981673
>hi-rez is making paladins to rival Paragon and Battleborn
>>340981654
They already said on stream that the girl rocket jumps higher and runs faster.
Expect Shift, E, and Q abilities along with stat differences.
>>340969149
fuck man, quake team fortress was the best. fuck tfc.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sa-6fQyNkZo
>>340981454
>vehicles
>in UT4
>dumb, skilless movement
Nice lies and hyperbole. Care to explain why the movement is so 'dumb and skilless'?
>>340981654
One of the abilities is a sprint. What more do you need to know?
>>340981246
Visor's is probably that "see through walls" thing.
>>340969389
>>340969943
could they be any more out of touch with fans of this franchise??
>le charismatic characters arena game xDDD
>>340982090
NO ONE CAN HIDE FROM MY SIGHTI'm mildly concerned.
>>340967757
I'm sure that's what The Overwatch Company said about HotS.
>>340981790
well fuck i didnt notice WoW due to sleep deprivation
Its the only pillar that holds blizzard right now and it crumbles at record rates. Overwatch is merely a wooden pole that will break soon once people will get bored of its monotone gameplay and shit execution
>>340982213
Everyone knows Keel at least.
>>340970968
you and me both buddy.
Is there any gameplay yet?
>>340981246
Doom can not be present and instead be in a better game.
>>340982213
I think it's obvious that they no longer care if we're their customers and are just using the brand recognition to appeal to TF2/Overwatch players.
Maybe, just maybeall of the abilities will be turned off in duels
>>340981654
>>340981958
Then it's utter shit.
1v1 is the primary competitive mode for quake, and that shit will ruin the symmetry of quake duels.
Just throw it in the trash.
>>340981958
>SARGE JUST USED HIS ULTIMATE!!!! WOW LOOK HE GOT THE ENTIRE ENEMY TEAM WITH IT!!!!
>WOW WHAT A PLAY OF THE GAME™
just kill me already
this game was my last hope and they took a massive, indian diarrhea dump all over it
>>340981813
>UT
>walk everywhere like a faggot, have to spam dodge to "move", no conservation of speed gained through dodging
>Quake
>strafe jumping allows you to constantly accelerate, circle jumping allows you to quickly fling yourself across gaps from standing still
>in quake 1 and quake 3/live mods with aircontrol you have complete control over your direction even in midair
more options in UT my ass. I know you're trolling but try harder.
>>340978732
>UT is trash
You are mad but not because quake, you justrealized your whole life has been a waste.
Now do the world a favor and end it all You Shitstain.
>>340982413
>implying Overwatch players have ever heard of Quake
When Tim Willits was talking on stage I was thinking "oh they actually got it right I think, good work" and then I find out it's class based. Why would you use the Quake name to make an overwatch clone and try to get that sweet esports money? That just hurts. And what's funny is that the previously garbage DOOM multiplayer is 100% confirmed to be fixed very soon with officially announced classic modes, so basically they're fixing DOOM, but then fucking up Quake, so it's funny that DOOM MP is going to end up being more faithful to the arena shooter gameplay, while Quake turns into a class based team shooter. This is fucking bizarre
Daily reminder that if someone gets triggered at the mention of "classes," you can be sure that they've never played Quake Live, let alone the original Quake.
Stop trying to fit in.
>>340981246
Blue-haired chick's isCHEERS LOVE, THE CAVALRY'S 'ERE!
>>340982491
It's cute that you think overquake would have 1vs1 comp
>>340981246
ranger will have offhand grappling hook
*quake 1 metal doink noise*
>>340982567
UT is definitely trash. Consider suicide.
>>340977093
Its sad when spergs like you actually think they are worth taking seriously.
>>340982076
>One of the abilities is a sprint
I'm late to the party, are you serious? We getting hero bullshit for Quake? wat
Why couldn't they learn from CSGO. Almost the same fucking game but you add cosmetic shit for the kids and do tourneys/esports for stream kids.
>>340982669
>When Tim Willits was talking on stage I was thinking "oh they actually got it right I think,
>>340982557
>>in quake 1 and quake 3/live mods with aircontrol you have complete control over your direction even in midair
well you have control over your acceleration within 45 degrees of your velocity vector.
>>340982687
Does this mean an insane amount of Quake porn is inbound?
I'm not sure how I feel about that.
>>340963819
why do people say this?
ive only seen the trailer, it reminds me of the rendered q3a intro
>>340982040
He can't. He's just spouting the same bullshit that every other Quake babby does. And I mean Quake babby, not actual fans of Quake. I've always liked both UT and Quake, only the tryhard Quake babbies fling shit from their mouths like that.
>>340982692
I wish I had the energy to take a LoL hero select screen and replace the portraits with images of Q3 models' faces.
>>340982791
You are trash, tasteless, pathetic, worthless, subhuman trash, no point in telling you to kill yourself, you're already dead.
>>340982840
Keep in mind this was directly after they showed a trailer that featured Quake 3 characters, so I thought they had made a Quake 3 style game, hence I thought they had gotten it right
>>340982892
They confirmed special abilities and ultimates on stream. It's Overwatch but with deathmatch.
>>340982076
b-but they said they'd keep strafe jumping
how can sprinting exist when everyone should be strafe jumping
>>340982882
>Not wanting to see Ranger's rippling, glisening muscles.
>>340982040
>asking a fanboy to use reason
They just spout insulting buzzwords to discredit other franchises. I love Quake but the community can be annoying as fuck. Worse then tryhard CoDfags to be honest.
>thread devolved into quake vs UT
well at least its not overwatch shills
from the trailer i see a shotgun,lg,railgun,rl,gauntlet
the chick i think would be using the hmg this time unless they changed the damage of the lmg
>>340982838
They just said it in the interview with morgan webb. Also its in the trailer
>>340983165
>Ranger
I'm more of a Doomguy guy.
>>340983107
>Overwatch but with deathmatch
Lawbreakers beats them to it
>>340983186
UT at least stayed true to what it was.
Quake already has 2 class based games.
>>340982723
Nah, Ranger will have Quad Damage
>>340963321
>hero based
>>340983468
unreal 2
>>340983107
>They confirmed special abilities and ultimates on stream
can you provide a source for that?
>Doom is back
>Quake is back
>Wolfenstein is back
When's Hexen?
>>340982076
literally bullshit pulled out your ass.
>>340982359
nice buzzwords and nothing to back your shit argument
"monotone gameplay and shit execution"
kekerino m8erino
>>340983640
It's in the fucking trailer, and in the interview with Morgan.
>>340983489
Ranger's thing is to teleport into his little ball thing from the end of Quake 1.
>>340982791
Fanboys need to leave. I've always hated you elitist Quakefags, upset that UT took Quake off it's pedestal when it was released. Both games are great and take skill, you raging Quakefags can never even give a reason to why it's so 'trash' other than hyperbole and buzzwords.
>>340983596
Unreal =/ UT =/ Championship.
Unreal WILL save Arena shooters.
>>340983349
So am I, but i want Doom-senpai free of this champions filth. he's too pure
>>340983614
Tim Willits awkwardly stuttering on stream about 10 minutes ago. Check the twitch vod.
It's exactly what it sounds like.
>>340969225
Quake fucking Live had loadouts too.I'm still hopeful for this game
>>340983926
I'm a far larger Quake fan than I am UT, but this appears to be accurate.
quake reduced to an overwatch cash-in
apparently they didnt have enough with killing quake live with their horrible updates
let it die bethesda, at least it will remain pure in our memories
>>340963321
>holy shit quake!
>neon girl appears
why the fuck make it class based, holy shit it's like they just make this games to piss me off
>>340983186
This shit has been going on since 1999. I sill remember when UT was released.
I don't understand why you wouldn't like one if you like the other. If you actually give a shit about arena shooters, you will like both. Fanboys are the only ones flinging shit at each other over it.
>>340983942
In before Doom and Phobos tag teaming Crash.webm
With the helmets on.
>>340983805
20 hz, poor balance, made in mind for console players, literally 2 gamemodes
keep being in denial blizzdrone
So this pretty much guarantees that DOOM's MP will never get any better, right?
>>340983909
There are a wide variety of reasons. Quake has the better movement system (not being able to conserve momentum is cancer. go double tap your movement keys up your own ass), a far more coherent weaponset with no redundancies, and much better overall gameplay. UT99 was the only decent UT, since then it's been worse and worse. Even then it was nothing compared to quake.
>>340983909
>Quakefags can never even give a reason to why it's so 'trash'
Here's just one:
Because the movement mechanics are completely lacking. There is no conservation of momentum and no way to gain speed in UT where there is in Quake. UT is just a competitive shooter, but Quake is a competitive Shooting-Platformer.
>>340964851
so what, league of legends is a blatant ripoff of dota, and everyone knows it, yet the game is considered successful
>>340984230
in 2016 people aren't excited by "just using a gun" and going fast. oh well
>>340963981
>with heroes
what did this mentally affected anon mean by this?
>>340983926
Yeah because it's the only one that's stayed true to the series. They're also working close to the modding community who actually understands and knows the game. I don't know why the fuckign idiots at id didn't take a similar route, especially given Quake's legacy. But Bethesda is the publisher, so I'm not surprised.
>>340984261
dunno, back in the stone age all of my friends played both series
there was no reason for game tribalism; we played a lot of different fps games
i just assume most people that try to start shit are fishing for (you)s
>>340984536
why not enjoy both games! i liked UrT 2004 a lot with friends and i can enjoy quake 3 just as well !
i would still enjoy it if quake live wasnt so DEAD
>>340984405
I'm not sure. They're allowing you to pick up all weapons at the same time in Snapmap. That was the biggest shock for me.
If they throw that into MP then there's a chance.
Unlikely though.
>just reinstalled Quake III
>Join a server called "Shotgun carnage" or something of the sort
>you only have a shotgun
>instead of it shooting pellets, it shoots railgun shots
>People jumping around with lasers all over the place
Fuck I forgot how much fun jumping around and just shooting people was in Q3
>>340974354
This fucking generation. Posting on twitter and facebook does exactly fuck all.
>>340984098
They added that to pub servers because the average person is dogshit at fps games and they were afraid that constantly getting shit on in ffa would drive people away. Nevermind the fact that everyone who stuck with the game and fell in love with it had to go through that too and didn't quit, let's dumb it down for the steamfags who will play all of three games and fuck off back to tf2 or csgo.
>>340981912
Its more or a rival to overwatch since they feel basically the same.
But it does have the easiest fucking sniper in the history of video games (headshots are shots that are above the waist on characters.)
>>340980570
fuck you
>class based shooter in the vein of Overwatch
>in the vein of Overwatch
>"heroes" will be voice acted
>Ranger will have a canon voice
>>340984863
Ranger has a canon voice, it's Trent Reznor.
>>340984631
>tfw Bethesda rapes and mutilates and utterly abominalizes every classic franchise they get their hands on
>>340984863
OH FUCK
NO
NO
FUCK
FUCK
>Doom will be in the game
FUCK
>>340984261
$50 was a lot more valuable back in the early 2000s.
>>340984457
>doube tap to dodge
I havent used that crap in years. UT4 has single button dodge and there's a mod in UT 2004 for once, probably UT99 now too.
I do agree that there should be a way to gain speed in UT.
>>340984302
yet Quake pros are playing it among pros from other games
stay shit shitter
>>340984712
What's the IP?
YOU NEED A TIME OUT!
I don't know what you guys are afraid of, Bethesda made literally no bad games since... ever. I'm expecting Quake to be excellent.
>>340984457
UT has always been superior for team gamemodes, weapons are deffinitely more interesting as well as UT having the better maps, Quake 3 is a pretty basic arena shooter, Unreal did a lot more with modes like Assault which wouldn't even be possible in Quake 3/Live
>>340984863
they are called champions, duuhhh
but yeah its fucking cancer, id software has went to shit
at least they didnt release the early cod-like doom 4 they had planned, although the multiplayer ended up being halo-like anyway
>>340984405
>So this pretty much guarantees that DOOM's MP will never get any better, right?
well they're dropping the weapon limit on snapmap and adding the weapon wheel, and they announced classic modes for the MP, so put those together and it seems that the MP for DOOM actually is going to get better
>>340984674
No, there were people like that back then, believe me. I'm not saying it was widespread, but the vocal minority of them has always annoyed me.
>>340985357
>UT has always been superior for team gamemodes
t. someone who has never played even mid-level quake tdm.
>>340985336
I want to spank Tracer
>>340985220
>people are trying to make money playing a blizzard game
who would have ever guessed
>>340983114
hold sprint and your horizontal velocity accelerates faster while youre strafing??
>>340985295
50.97.113.71:27960
There's around 10 people on right now
>tfw bhopping in csgo isn't as satisfying as strafing
>tfw there will never be a new Quake game where you can strafe
>tfw you getting "heroes"
>>340984863
Ranger already has a canon voice, doesn't he? From one of those console games
>>340985053
Doomguy did too
He won't be in this game though
>>340982791
People like you make me sad
Like actually sad, not even trying to mock you
It's just so pathetic
THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FUCKING INCLUDE BUNNYHOPPING ARE THEY
I SHOULDN'T EVEN GET ANY HOPE UP SHOULD I
>>340985484
>t. someone who only grasp of UT CTF has been joining the most populated public server and play with randoms.
Fanboys like you can't into objectivity, so glad Bethesda is raping your ass and never giving you othe rgame that plays like old quake.
you are now remembering Xaero on nightmare difficulty
>>340985740
Grunts aren't a canon voice.
Neither is HUUP HUUP HUUP HUUP
>>340984041
they never said anything about ultimates though, only active abilities
>>340985843
the dev said theres strafe jumping and rocket jumping and bunny hopping is just chaining strafe jumps together sooooooOOOOOOO
I'm looking forward to seeing that card game crashes and burns
>>340979797
>Quake was the originator of class-based shooters
but that's wrong. Hexen came before Quake, not to say it was the first.
What you mean to say is "class-based fortress defense first person shooter".
>>340980570
You gtfo, Quakebaby.
>>340985843
Bald guy said there wil be strafejumping on the stream.
>>340985909
No, I mean actual voice lines and shit
>>340984457
UT's lack of momentum is terrible
But the in-combat movility is fun
>>340985843
Tim Willits in the aftershow interview literally, LITERALLY, said you can rocket jump, strafe jump and circle jump.
why the fuck won't you people look this shit up it's literally right there in the bethesda twitch profile
>>340985973
PROBABLY CAPPED AT LIKE 120% JUST LIKE HALF LIFE CPAPED MOVESPEED AT 170% GROUNDSPEED
I'VE BEEN FOOLED TOO MCUH
THERE'S NO WAY THEY MAKE A GOOD GAME
IT'S 2016
MAKING GOOD GAMES IS VERBOTEN
SHITTERS GET FUCKING REKT INSANELY HARD BY STRAFE JUMPING.BHOP MORE THAN ANYTHING ELSE EVER IN VIDEO GAMES, THERE'S NO WAY THEY WILL EVER LET THEM IN THE CAUSALIZED VIDEO GAME MARKET OF TODAY
QUAKE HAS BEEN FUCKING DEFILED
>Doom 2016
>literal halo 4 devs Certain Affinity
>Quake Champions
>literally another halo dev (Saber Interactive)
rest in peace quake. the good times will be remembered
>>340964286
Overwatch has this
>>340986174
Holy fuck are you okay man?
>>340985958
There's no way that seeing through walls isn't an ultimate.
>>340976783
ease up autismo
you can keep playing quake 3 with your ancient autismo buddies all you want, nobody is gonna stop you
This looks perfectly fine to me, gonna enjoy playing it a lot :¬)
>everyone was expecting quake single player with a good multiplayer
>it's just a class based multiplayer game
ho no.
>>340985843
>THEY'RE NOT GOING TO FUCKING INCLUDE SOMETHING THAT WAS AN UNINTENDED PHYSICS BUG ARE THEY
>>340986119
Never played a Quake 1 port on console I'll have to hunt around for that.
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>>340986120
>>340986117
STRAFE JUMPING IS ____NOT_____ BUNNYHOPPING
STRAFE JUMPING IMPLIES SHITTY LITTLE SINGLE JUMPS AND _NO_ GAINED AVERAGE SPEED OR MOMENTUM FROM IT
BUNNYHOPPING IS CONSTANTLY BEING ABLE TO KEEP/MAINTAIN/INCREASE SPEED
>>340986268
THE GAME THAT BASICALLY STARTED THE 'GIT GUD' MULTIPLAYER EXPERIENCE WHICH SUBSEQUENTLY DIED ABOUT 15 YEARS AGO IS NOW HAVING ITS CORPSE DUG UP AND REANIMATED AS A CRUEL JOKE
NO FUCKING WAY THIS GAME HAS SKILL BASE MOVEMEND
NO FUCKING WAY SHITTERS GET BLOWN THE FUCK OUT BY BASED BHOP'S AND ROCKET JUMPS
NOPT IN 2016
IF IT ACTUALLY PLAYS LIKE QUAKE I'LL EAT ALL THE HATS
>>340986414
WE'VE GOT SHITTERS
THIS IS YOUR MODERN DAY FUCKING CUSTOMER BASE
>>340986120
They included a guy who can sprint as his special ability. Guarantee, GUARANTEE, that the "strafe jumping" will be something that only pays lip service to the idea. Because actual fucking strafe jumping would completely destroy the concept that everyone can jump in and play shit.
Remember when overwatch said that everyone could win, and we managed to get the only fps in history where you can't carry?
>>340984863
Wait no why is this bad?
Don't people remember how you could talk to bots in Q3A and they'd have unique lines and shit?
>>340985484
He wasn't talking about teamdeathmatch, you drone. UT has way more variety then Quake, I also agree that the weapons are more fun to use. Quake is better for Deathmatch, UT is better for everything else.
>>340986414
>not embracing the godliest mechanic to bless mankind
>>340963792
Yeah, the PC master race class.
>>340963819
>it's a clone of the best FPS in years
you say that like it's a bad thing
>>340986358
I love quake, but just watching quake purist fanboys sperging over this is fuckin Golden.
Besides, Quake live is stil great and going strong.
>>340986498
THIS SO FUCKING HARD
THE GAME IS NOT GOING TO BE GOOD IT'S GOING TO BE JUST LIKIE FUCKING TF2:TFC
SPRINTING CONFIRMS THAT THE GAME IS SHIT AND THAT STRAFE JUMPING = PLACEBO JUMPING
>>340986487
theres literally no reason for strafe jumping to exist if bunnyhopping doesnt come with it other than doing long jumps which i imagine are absolutely unecessary in this game
now the only deal breaker is whether or not they'll bring back sonic mayhem to compose the soundtrack
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WG2g45mZ_fw
>>340986487
Enjoy your haberdashery
>>340986487
>STRAFE JUMPING IMPLIES SHITTY LITTLE SINGLE JUMPS
no it fucking doesn't
are you retarded? strafe jumping LITERALLY means you strafe while jumping, thus increasing your speed as per quake's bugged physics engine
if you can do it once you can do it repeatedly, cocksleeve
>>340986209
>Overwatch
>fast gameplay
>when even the "fastest" character moves slow as fucking molasses
>>340986174
The sad thing is that you're probably completely right
>>340986710
>>340986761
you fundamentally don't understand how valve nerfed bhop but kept """strafe jump"""" the same in goldsrc
they are going to do the same or very similar
haha this must be a joke
magical powers
fucking wallhacks as a part of gameplay like that shitty ass TF2 ripoff
a skill ceiling where you hit your head all the fucking time
games are dead
>>340986651
>Besides, Quake live is stil great and going strong.
>>340979797
That's not le original team fortress dumb millenial.
>>340986761
NOT WHNE THE ENGINE RESETS YOUR SPEED TO YOUR GROUNDSPEED MAX LIMIT WHEN YOU TOUCH THE GROUND YOU STUPID FAGGOT
VALVE DID THIS 20 YEARS AGO AND THEY'RE GOING TO DO IT AGAIN BECAUSE IT KEEPS BHOP FROM BEING A HIGH SKILL THING THAT LETS GOOD PLAYERS DESTROY BAD SHITTERS BUT IT KEEPS LE EBIN "STRAFE" JUMP
>>340986813
there were people claiming that britbong was too fast to control during the beta
>>340986469
No, it was the ranger model in a Quake 3 port I think.
>>340986487
Strafejumping and bunnyhoping have been mixed a lot, but strafejumping doesn't mean single jumps at all. The common distinction is air control.
You may be thinking of circlejumps, but still, that's always been the start to bhops/sjumps.
>>340986846
valve consistently completely shat on bhop settings over and over they dont want it to be part of their games
you cant say the same for this
Made a Quake Live server
Server Name: /v/ server
Password: rage
>>340987017
She doesn't even more 10% faster than any other character in the game.
>>340987093
its 2016, bhop means shitters will be completely eaten alive, which means the game doesn't sell as good as it cut
this is a fully jewed out industry, that will never, EVER happen
>Quake 2 got a sequel in Quake 4
>Quake 3 gets a sequel in Quake Champions
>Quake 4 got a sequel in Quake: Enemy Territory
>Quake 1 still has no true sequel.
NEVER
EVER
>>340987204
>Quake Live
>not Quake 3
one job anon
>>340987017
Even in the beta everyone had the same movement speed
While we're on the subject who wants to bet that rocket jumping will cause you to lose momentum if you're in the air too long just like in OW?
>implying this game wont just be a momentary diversion for overwatch players who will play it for a little bit and then go back to playing overwatch
shits going to flop. and then Bethesda will view this as no one is interested in Quake anymore.
>>340987218
still too fast for 2016 it would seem
>>340987292
>Quake 3 gets a sequel in Quake Champions
Surely, you can't be serious.
>>340987234
rocket jumping EATS shitters alive
SHITTERS CANT DO SHIT ABOUT SOME FUCKER FLYING IN YOUR FACE AND BLASTING THEMSELVES AWAY AS SOON AS THEY LAND
and rocket jumping exists
so its safe to assume that theyre not appealing to these shitters
fucking WHY tho... Really, think about it
Option a) make an arena shooter, maybe win over some of the older fans, and be the ONLY fucking arena shooter out that's not in permanent early access (UT4) or operating with literally 12 players on a good night (Toxikk)
Option b) Change genres, appeal to neither those that liked quake 1/2 single, nor the Q3/live player base, and compete with fucking Overwatch (Battleborn, Lawbreakers, etc)
Who's in the god damned board room making these decisions? Who sold this fucking idea?
I liked DOOM's single player. I'll happily admit they won me over even if it doesn't play like Doom.... but jesus. It's going to be Overwatch, without the memes and porn, nor the legion blizzdrones. Dead in the god damned water.
tfc:tf2
quake:quake champions
>>340987292
quake world
>>340986846
>>340986989
>t-they capped the speed so it's not strafejumping!
listen up dick-snorkeler, all that means is that those games no longer have strafe jumping enabled
if you cap the speed it's called capped strafe jumping, you don't get to name it something else just so you can feel special correcting people in image boards. Also, Willits implied that strafe jumping is the same it always was by saying you could do all the things quake fans would expect to be able to do in a quake game.
>>340987017
>first-person shooter players in 2016
>>340987017
shitters moba cod babbies are the audience blizzard want, of course they complain. why the fuck do they complain when they have fucking hitscan weapons.
>>340987564
quake world was just them adding netcode that could deal with latency
>>340987391
>quake 3
>still being relevant and any way or form
And this. Is why you unsuferable pieces of filth aren't getting a new game.
>>340987524
ROCKET JUMPS ONLY WORK WHEN YOU USE A ROCKET
YOU HAVE TO
1.HAVE A ROCKET LAUNCHER
2.BE WILLING TO SACRAFICE YOUR HP
3.BE CURRENTLY USING THE ROCKET FOR A _SINGLE_ JUMP
BHOP YOU CAN LITERALLY ALWAYS DO AND IS A FAR BIGGER BENEFIT
IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE
Wtf is Jeff Gerstmann talking about... Quake Live was never successful for Bethesda, it was always in the reds. It is not even free2play anymore and costs 10 bucks on steam.
The stats website is also gone...
>>340987292
quake 4 was fucking garbage
the first 3 main games were literally the only good ones
what made quake 3 great was the collaboration with pro players and the constant thought of balance in mind
quake champions is literally a company throwing money at a rising meme popularized by the bastard son of autistic MOBA fanboys and "what if TF2 didn't have any personality" known as overwatch
>we want a game where 20 year pros and new players can compete together
They should have just made a horror game single player shooter.
>>340987613
that's not how words work
THAT'S NOT HOW ANYTHING WORKS
STRAFE JUMP LITERALLY JUST MEANS "YOU HAVE AIR CONTROL"
THAT IS IT
YOU CAN USE STRAFE KEYS WHILE JUMPING
EVEN IF IT WAS ONLY 0.0000001% EXTRA MOVEMENT IT'S STILL A STRAFE JUMP
IT SAYS _NOTHING_ RELEVANT EXCEPT THAT THEY ARE GOING TO TRY AND CASH IN ON IT SUPERFICALLY
IT IS AN APRORI THAT IT WILL NOT BE IN BECAUSE SHITTERS GET OWNED SO HARD NO BUSINESS WOULD EVER ALLOW IT
JUST LIKE THEY WILL NEVER ALLOW PC VS CONSOLE FPS PLAY
YES I AM MAD
BUT MORE IMPORTANTLY
I AM CORRECT
>>340987705
in comp TF2 you can get great jumps on the enemy medic losing little health
>>340985843
>>340986174
>>340986487
>>340986672
>>340986989
>>340987705
>>340987919
Has there ever been a game that balanced skill properly, so new comers don't get shat on and skilled players win when they play correctly?
>>340986498
>Remember when overwatch said that everyone could win, and we managed to get the only fps in history where you can't carry?
Someone doesn't main Pharrah/Widow kek
>>340987969
you're new to videogames and use incorrect terminology
you are untravelled, unlearned, and are adamant about being wrong
you are the modern audience
>>340988057
never and it shouldnt be
that is the entire premise behind competitive: you win or you lose.
>>340985637
I finally found a full version of q3 1.16 but the server is empty now :(
>>340987928
>We will never have a proper follow up to Quake 1
>sprinting
DOA, just can it
>>340988185
I'VE LIVED TO SEE EVERY GOOD GAME WITH HIGH SKILL MECHANICS EITHER FADE INTO OBSCURITY OR IN MODERN GAMES, GET NERFED INTO THE GROUND / REMOVED BECAUSE OF SHITTERS
SHITTERS HAVE RUINED VIDEO GAMES
SHITTERS WHO CANNOT GIT GUD HAVE BROUGHT EVERYTHING DOWN TO THE LEVEL OF TRASH
AN ENGINE POWERED BY STOCKHOLDERS, DRIVEN BY CEO JEWS, PILING HEAPS OF GARBAGE UPON EACH OTHER
THAT IS THE FUCKING STATE OF VIDEO GAMES
>>340987969
strafe jumping is q3 movement. there's no aircontrol to it. You're thinking of bunnyhopping, which was a feature of Q1/cpm
I'm cautiously optimistic. I don't froth at the mouth at the concept of character classes, but I hope the characters aren't super specialized.
Give everyone access to the same weapons, then just give the characters their special ability and it's fine.
I hope that other than rocketjumping, advanced movement is kept to a minimum. I get that strafejumping is key to high level quake, but I'd sooner see this new one just be faster all around by default so that a speedboosting technique like strafejumping isn't even necessary.
Kind of a "why not just make 10 louder" scenario I guess.
I'm cautiously (read: VERY cautiously) optimistic
>>340988057
this cannot happen because if a quality of the game allows better players to be better then new players who are assumed to be bad will always be beaten by the better players, in other words they get shat on
>>340988367
This.
>>340988442
Incorrect. Bunnyhopping is a technique based on repeated use of strafe jumping.
What if they actually balance the classes well and balance it around a single play style so no one has a I win button, and everyone has an option for every fight?
>>340964845
sorry fetus
we're aborting you post-delivery
>>340986672
What sprinting, what the fuck.
That one guy in the trailer didn't sprint, he fucking charged.
>>340987969
>STRAFE JUMP LITERALLY JUST MEANS "YOU HAVE AIR CONTROL"
In the Quake community actually, strafejump doesn't mean air control. It means the opposite, actually.
Bhop is air control jumps, where you can turn in the air while doing them.
>>340986813
I don't like OW, but it's still somewhat fast. Faster than anything this generation has experiened, for one.
I think "frantic" may be a better word?
>>340986487
Actually strafe jumping DOES increase your speed, just in a straight direction. Bunny hopping (only possible in CPMA physics) is the same thing but without holding W, because you gain speed while turning. You can get further faster by strafejumping.
>>340963321
>BETHESDA
>>340986983
For visibility millennials played quake when it came out
Hearing it was "class" based hit me like a fuckin brick...
But then, i just remember we still have Quake Live.
>>340988317
I'll play on another if you can find it
>>340988367
No sprinting was shown.
>>340987969
>STRAFE JUMP LITERALLY JUST MEANS "YOU HAVE AIR CONTROL"
except it fucking doesn't
strafe jumping is what movement in quake 3 has always been called because it's a literal description of what's happening, you jump while pressing the left strafe key and turning your mouse thus gaining speed.
You don't even really have air control. The second you try to make a turn you lose all speed and there are really no practical applications to trying to turn while speeding up because it's only doable in very small increments.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRV0tclxXMQ
>>340988883
they're referring to that fucking charge rush which is clearly a fucking character-specific skill
>>340987204
Can't find it man
>>340988958
The air control and bhop possible in goldsrc is canonically the best.
>>340983003
Do you feel better babby?
>>340987204
server browser is shit. just give IP address or a 'tag'
>>340986174
>>340986487
>>340987969
gaming is dead anon, why are you still here?
>>340989081
I'm talking about quake and so is the developer
>>340989329
goldsrc is quake, though.
the best quake engine.
>>340976783
Nothing's sacred anymore. Baldy's gate then now Quack.
Nothing's sacred anymore.
>>340988570
no, bunnyhopping involves using only the strafe keys, strafe-jumping involves using forward+strafe and gains more speed at the expense of lower turning speed.
Q3 had strafe jumping but no air control.
>>340989394
quake 3*
>>340989394
no
quake is quake
goldsrc is goldsrc
yes derived from quake, but no longer quake
>>340989417
>QUAKE 3 KEKOLDS DIDN'T HAFE AIR CONTROL
ARE
YOU
FUCKING
SHITTING
ME
OYJASDFKVGLAJSDLKFJASDF
HA
HAHAHJAHA
WHAT
WHAT
WHAT
W H A T
THAT'S HORRIFIC
THAT'S AWFUL
THAT'S
UNACCEPTABLE
OH MY GOD
>>340989081
but you can only bhop in goldsrc, not strafejump.
>>340989219
this
or give us your steam so we can join off you
>>340987525
There is no logic in these games
Id/beth have a IP sitting around and they can easily milk it with little effort, I think that's the only rationale you're gonna find
>>340989641
?
yes you can, strafe jumping repeatly is the definition of bunnyhopping
>>340969538
>It's like you hate gaming.
Well, dont you too?
>>340988814
nobody played that and with good reason
even back then team fortress was way better as a team game
>>340980693
>Ranger doesn't look absolutely pissed
its shit
>>340989417
you can bunny hop in quake 3 without strafe keys
if you clip any kind of uneven surface, you will gain momentum
quake 3 does have air control, you can change your travel direction mid jump through use of any movement key
it's slow, however
don't make shit up when you don't know what you're talking about
you've been disqualified from further participating in discussion
>>340986498
you don't know that its a sprint, it could be a charge. that would make more fucking sense, hes clearly a tank character
>>340963321
>Bethesda
Enjoy the real Quake experience goys.
>>340988570
I'm not wrong faggot
>>340989923
...it's true.
>>340988057
No. It's impossible by nature.
What is possible is designing the game in such a way that new players enjoy themselves, and guess what? That's every single Quake game, and in fact every single high skill game people cry about being newbie unfriendly, from Quake to Starcraft, passing by Dota.
>>340988585
ay hol up
What's stopping someone from making a game where literally everyone is cheating? Where cheating is the core part of the game? Everyone has aim bots, everyone can see through walls, everyone can instant fire.
>>340990016
Wrong. Strafe jumping is a techniqu where strafe is used while midair to increase speed over ground speed max.
Bunnyhopping is continuously using strafe jumps back to back while jumping to maintain and increase speed.
>>340988442
strafe jumping is quake 2 move
>>340990068
call of duty on consoles is pretty much that
>>340989758
No. During strafejumping you hold W and move in a relatively straight line, whereas with bunny hopping you're constantly turning.
SOMEBODY GET A SERVER UP
>>340989086
No i don't.. just needed to vent after the dissapointment, my bad anon, all i wanted was just a new good quake game as well.
>>340990068
it would pretty much be DOTA 2 but with shooting. Sight and wallhacks and how well you can ambush people would be the only thing that matters.
>>340987969
>>340988412
>>340989550
fucking turn your fucking caps fucking lock the fucking fuck off you fucking autist
>>340990130
>I'VE NEVER PLAYED QUAKE BUT I USE RETARDED TERMINOLOGY ON IMAGEBOARDS TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE I HAVE
kill yourself phamalam
>>340990040
>That's every single Quake game, and in fact every single high skill game people cry about being newbie unfriendly, from Quake to Starcraft, passing by Dota.
all of them are losing grounds to their more casual counterpart. Dota was kept alive because lol is the only worthy competitor. Starcraft is the only rts with a scene. But most importantly valve and blizz are filthy rich.
>>340990302
Correct.
Quake 1 had bunnyhopping, Q3 got rid of it and just had strafe jumping. CPMA brought it back.
>>340989962
Nah, Hopebiscuit.
Bunnyhopping: Repeated jumping in order to maintain character's inertia, in contrast to traveling on the ground which will have the friction mechanics rob you of speed
>quake 1 you press jump and strafe to gain speed
>somehow this is not strafe jumping
?
reminder that bunnyhopping only refers to _repeated_ jumps, not a _single_ jump, which is what a strafe jump is
>>340990406
im not reading all of that conversation. how is quake 1 and cpma bunnyhopping not strafejumping? you use the strafe keys. you do the same in games where you also use the strafe keys, but have to press the forward button too. they all have strafe jumping, and bunnyhopping is just strafe jumping several times with the goal of acceleration
>>340990617
now that i think about it i guess you can hold forward to bunny hop in quake instead of strafe keys, but its still called strafe jumping and always has been
defrag doesn't use cpma by default, and is built around bunnyhopping mechanics
>>340988057
Mario Party.
If a game rewards skill at any point then the more skilled player will win.
The only way to counter this is to make it random.
Something like TF2 with crits on will still reward skilled players much more.
Something like Mario Party can just fuck over anyone at any time no matter how well they're doing.
